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I have read the Silent Sinner in Blue and now I have been reading Forbidden Scrollery.
So I started wondering:

Do all official Touhou manga suck this much? Aren't there any interesting ones?

>> No.11990532

No, just SSiB.
If you don't like FS you might want to just stop now.

>> No.11990540

>>11990530
I'd say WaHH and the latter two fairy mangas are the better than Scrollery.
That said, Forbidden Scrollery is good. Either SSiB left a real nasty taste in your mouth, which is pretty reasonable, or Touhou manga isn't for you.

>> No.11990548

>>11990530
Silent Shitter in Blew was the worst
FS is decent
Fairy one was good
Kasen is lewd

>> No.11990551
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>>11990548
BEST! The word you're looking for is BEST!

>> No.11990557

>>11990551
No, I'm pretty sure she is incredibly lewd, with her having a vagina and all.

>> No.11990564

>>11990557
All the Touhous have that.

>> No.11990567

>>11990532
FS isn't unreadable and the art is good (almost too cute), but there are a few points that I'm uncomfortable with, for example like:
- Motoori being an irresponsible and obnoxious while releasing calamities one after another pisses me off more than I feel like it should.
- Despite being about sealed demons and otherwise seemingly serious aspects, the tension never seems to go above a boring casual slice of level. Such a waste.
- The mediocre episodic storyline makes it feel like I'm reading nothing but fillers chapters.

>> No.11990573

>>11990564
Lies.

>> No.11990575

>>11990564
Some even have dicks!

>> No.11990582

>>11990567
Well if problems escalate, that's an incident and those are for the games

>> No.11990585

>>11990575
All Touhous have that.

>> No.11990606

FS has good art. Other than that it does absolutely nothing noticeable. It's like the fairy manga with a worse cast of characters.

>> No.11990639

>>11990567
That's just how the setting works, and that's just how ZUN writes. Take it or leave it, maybe his stories are just not for you.

>> No.11990662

>>11990639
Well, Touhou was always carried by its fandom anyway.

I think I'm off to read some doujins again.

>> No.11990683

>>11990567
do you even touhou

>> No.11990682

>>11990662

hi

>> No.11990684

>>11990567

>- Despite being about sealed demons and otherwise seemingly serious aspects, the tension never seems to go above a boring casual slice of level. Such a waste.

Reimu's fault for being overpowered and Gensokyo's for not being edgy enough.

>- The mediocre episodic storyline makes it feel like I'm reading nothing but fillers chapters.

Geh, Touhou mangas are almost literally a SoL showing the characters when there aren't major incidents. If the problems are bigger it's videogame time.

Anyway, does anyone have the lates chaps of WaHH and FS? I don't see updates since December

>> No.11990720

The manga is for advanced fans only.

>> No.11990737

>>11990720
how can i become an advanced fan? should i play the games? they are boring, i don't wanna ^^

>> No.11990740
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I like the three fairies manga and WaHH.

>> No.11991082

well I like SSiB and novel.
I think what ZUN wanted to is denying casual's famfic. Few years ago(before 2010),most of touhou fans got wrong idea about gensokyo seriously.
In their touhou ,characters and danmaku battles are always be treated pompously like "yukari too stornk" "muh master spark""gensokyo rocks" "yuuka sadistic monster" .
And ZUN stated that they are not so cool and gensokyo is just a rural district. MCs went to moon and offered Yorihime a danmaku battle.
Marisa explained rules to Yorihime (beauty is important) . Marisa said in her book,"If one were free, they need to pursue only "the most efficient, the most effective.Therefore, in a world without rules, danmaku is nonsense."
And Yorihime bodied them completely. Why? Because Yorihime didn't need to follow their local rules nor have fun.She just removed invaders with the most effective attacks.
After all, gensokyo is a small rural district and danmaku battle is silly girls game for outsider,.
Yukari can't beat lunarians and she even knelt on the ground.there was no epic fight that casuals love.
The whole plot is yukari trying to obtain something form strong lunarians by a trick. Its very small as gensokyo itself.
As a result, casual fans went mad and disliked bougetsusho. I don't think Aki eda did good job but that's not the issue.
Other official manga are almost SoL. no epic spell card. no edgy youkai duel.
ZUN is saying gensokyo is not land of danmaku battle and danmaku battle is no longer in circulation in another place.
If you read his works,you can understand what I'm saying.

>> No.11991138
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>>11991082
That's why ZUN can suck a dick.

The "casual" fans' visions are far better. In pretty much all of the games the Touhou girls (with numerous super powers) have done nothing but beaten each other up, be it through danmaku or actual fighting. Therefore the fans have been pretty accurate in that sense.

ZUN is shitting on a large (and also in my opinion valuable) portion of his own fanbase if he tries to enforce "Lol, let's have nothing but boredom, little pranks and teaparties!" How fucking interesting.
What's that? Someone's sake barrel was emptied? OOH, AN EXTREME INCIDENT, LET'S INVESTIGATE THAT SHIT! What a twist, it was actually Remilia's cute pet!
WHOO
FUCKING
HOO

I'll gladly take power levels and some actual action over that shit any day. Or whatever other interesting stuff the fan stories have to offer. The official stuff is just bad.

>> No.11991140 [DELETED] 

>>11990567
>- Motoori being an irresponsible and obnoxious while releasing calamities one after another pisses me off more than I feel like it should.
But it's not like she got kidnapped all the time like a dumbass in distress, also it gives a reason for Reimu's job or something.

>>11990684
Anyway, does anyone have the lates chaps of WaHH and FS? I don't see updates since December
I heard the translator is not releasing the rough to public anymore cause we've been sharing it and for some reason that pissed him up.

You know what, i would gladly translate the remaining manga if i can find the raw for it.

>> No.11991143

>>11990567
>- Motoori being an irresponsible and obnoxious while releasing calamities one after another pisses me off more than I feel like it should.
But it's not like she got kidnapped all the time like a dumbass in distress, also it gives a reason for Reimu's job or something.

>>11990684
>Anyway, does anyone have the lates chaps of WaHH and FS? I don't see updates since December
I heard the translator is not releasing the rough to public anymore cause we've been sharing it and for some reason that pissed him up.

You know what, i would gladly translate the remaining manga if i can find the raw for it.

>> No.11991166

>>11991138
Good think ZUN doesn't wants nor needs to pander to fans and rather just shares his vision of Gensokyo with everyone who might like it.

For everyone else there's still fanon.

>> No.11991183

>>11991143
>I heard the translator is not releasing the rough to public anymore cause we've been sharing it and for some reason that pissed him up.
Nah, the issue was that people were uploading it to manga sites and he couldn't replace it with the final version.

>You know what, i would gladly translate the remaining manga if i can find the raw for it.
...and right now the issue is that he can't find raws, IIRC.

>> No.11991186

>>11991138
Haha, you're pathetic. Slow your hyper angry teen brain down and learn to enjoy something subtle.

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>>11991138
I though SSiB was highly entertaining, despite its flaws. I gotta admit I hope you're kidding when you talk about ZUN actually shitting on his fanbase because ... what, the backstory to a video game doesn't have enough story for you?

>> No.11991189

>>11991183
How is that possible!?

>> No.11991190

>>11991187
youmu is a boy

>> No.11991203

>>11991138
The stories are just the boring shit that happens when an incident isn't happening.

>> No.11991212

>>11991186
I've been reading them alright. Can't say the manga stories were very enjoyable but I read them nevertheless.
Am I a hyper angry teen for wanting something more interesting? What a wonderful critique from you.

>> No.11991214
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11991214

The lack of tension is one of the defining aspects of Touhou, ZUN even said that. If that's not for you there are no shortage of series with forced tears and epic sword fights.

>> No.11991217

>>11991212
From your idiot post it was quite clear how you are.

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>>11991212
>>11991217
Now, now, ladies, let's not start any fights here

>> No.11991223

No one gets into Touhou for the story.

>> No.11991235

>>11991223
I kinda did. I wanted to get into this style of game and heard Touhou was one of the easier series with good music, but I only got around to playing it after I stumbled on a translation of PoDD somewhere. I thought it was nice and silly. I guess you could say I played it for the atmosphere.

>> No.11991237

>>11991223
Came for the cool games and the music, stayed for the story

>> No.11991255

Friendly reminder that actual touhou threads are the worst.

>> No.11991777

>>11991255
A bunch of /a/ kids complaining that Touhou is not like Naruto* is not an "actual Touhou thread".

*Before some /a/ kid goes on to say that they hate Naruto (because it's for 10 years old and they're already 14), you can substitute Kill la Kill or whatever action shit they like these days.

>> No.11992505
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Now now kids... Let's put our differences aside and sneak a peak at what Forbidden Scrollery has to offer this month...

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>> No.11992519

>>11992505
Fuck you, I want to finish WaHH first.
Having to wait for 1 manga to finish is bad enough

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>> No.11992533

I just like most of them for the art, SSiB included. Inaba is probably the only one I've enjoyed for reading.

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>> No.11992540
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Everyone is straight in Gensokyo

>> No.11992545
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>> No.11992550
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And that's the sneak peak we got to see this month...

>> No.11992557
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11992557

For the Sochi winter Olympics, ZUN went for Russian food, drinking Vodka and stuff.

>> No.11992639

>>11992505
You should have made a new thread.

>> No.11992649

>>11992505
holy fuck benben and not benben get some visibility!

>> No.11992657

>>11992532
When did they get so tiny

>> No.11992680

In a game series where the main focus is fighting, is it not normal to expect it's related material to also focus on fighting? WaHH and FS almost make it look like danmaku battle doesn't exist at all.

>> No.11992684

>>11992680
Danmaku battles are fights that revolve around pretty bullets and cool sounding names with no consequences for anyone involved, so it's natural for the mangas to be lighthearted as well.

>> No.11992710
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>>11991183
That guy is a complete idiot if he gets mad about people uploading his not finished version. If you release version 0.5 and then take months to make your final version, people will just have used the old one already because no one will wait that long for whatever minor changes he still wanted to make.

>> No.11992735

>>11992680
ZUN's one attempt at doing that resulted in the worst thing to have the official Touhou name. I'd rather have nothing happen than pure shit again. He can't write anything else. It's either nothing or shit. The one manga that aimed for humor instead was not even written by him because he probably realized that he could never deliver that.

>> No.11992788

>>11992505
Byakushit trying to get new Filthy youkais i see

>> No.11992797

>>11992788
Spoiler: this isn't really happening.

>> No.11992845

>>11992797
And that's gonna stop Byakushit?

>> No.11992853

>>11992550
Young maidens are angry!

>> No.11992868

>>11992532
Shinmyoumaru got a new friend!

>> No.11992873

>>11992540
I don't know why but I like this scene, it makes me smile for some reason

>> No.11992876 [DELETED] 

>>11992536
>>11992540
Is that.... No way.... ZUN!Bar !?!?!

>> No.11992877

>>11992550
So, is this a ghost/youkai of lovestruck person

>> No.11992887

>>11992877
Perhabs the youkai of unsent loveletters?

>> No.11992911

>>11992887
Heh, make sense than my guess

>> No.11992934

>>11991223
I think it serves to create the atmosphere and setting along with the music well enough. Dunno why people hate it for not having typical anime-like developments.

>> No.11992986

>>11992710
I think this is the problem with the western fanbase.
We depend on only one person to translate the mangas.

In a certain way, he has the power to write anything and make it canon, since nobody else seems to get the RAWs to check it (and apparently, the real reason he isn't doing more translations is because the RAW provider is "AWOL").

The reason he releases draft is so he can get other people to quality check it.
But people seem to not really care if the overall translation makes sense.

>> No.11992988

What you read is whatever fap material ZUN comes up with. The whole lore is like a nonstop marathon of filler chapters, because she enjoy things this way.

Having people struck by an evil mist and then later show them uninjured, or having people wounded by a tiger and then magically healing them next page it is just a proof that he enjoys his paradise quiet, incidents are sporadic distraction.

I like boredom, little pranks and tea parties and Milady's cute pet.

>> No.11992994
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>>11992512

WHY IS UNZAN SO HANDSOME

>> No.11993001

>>11992986
The translation status for Touhou is awful, just remember that we have ugly retarded Eng patches for the official games with Mokou saying jelly donuts (I know it's a joke but dude come on).
Also we don't translate a lot of ZUN e-mails, interviews and other statuses that often contain precious little information we'll never hear about, like some characters' height etc.

>>11992988
Everytime you say something relatively nice you have to fuckup at the end.

>> No.11993012

>>11992986
>The reason he releases draft is so he can get other people to quality check it.
>But people seem to not really care if the overall translation makes sense.

People rushing to unchecked translations is where we got stuff like Unthinkable Natural Law, Shikieiki, and "immortals can't enter the Netherworld".

>> No.11993015

>>11993001
Do you have something against expressing my love for the Remimi?

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>>11992988
>I like boredom

Dude, you might as well just say you eat up anything that says Touhou instead of stuff like that.

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>>11993015
.

>> No.11993035

>>11992887
Pretty much, at least if the introductory story as depicted by Byakuren is relevant to the rest of the chapter, which is self-evidently is.

>> No.11993055

>>11992986
>The reason he releases draft is so he can get other people to quality check it.

Really? I thought it was just his way of avoiding responsibility for potential errors.

That's silly, how can you expect anyone to quality check a translation without access to the original.

Also, per the above, we care, but what can we do?

>> No.11993058

>>11993021
I doubt he eats up Chado and the like.

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>>11992873
Lovestruck Reimu is Love

>> No.11993307

>>11992710
He didn't get "mad," he just changed his behavior to avoid the outcome he didn't like.

>> No.11993351

>>11992710
>That guy is a complete idiot if he gets mad about people uploading his not finished version
Well, good thing he doesn't and you've just completely misunderstood the situation.

>> No.11993404

>>11992986
>>11993001
IN's translation is terribad, and people still treat it as canon, so now people think Remilia said ''shit'' and Marisa said ''bitch''.

>> No.11993407

>>11991138
>The "casual" fans' visions are far better.
The casual fans think that Hourai is alive.

>> No.11993408

>>11992532
>holding hands
jesus christ.

>> No.11993411

>>11992540
>>11992536
so finally the concept of affection and love has been introduced.

hopefully it stays there.

>> No.11993414

>>11992680
>In a game series where the main focus is fighting
touhou is about fighting the same way /v/ is about videogames.

the subtitle is there but nobody takes it seriously, all the tea parties at the end of the games show you that.

>> No.11993416

>>11993058
Chado has awful stories, they make me cringe in disgust, like that ''I AM SUDDENLY MORE POWERFUL THAN BOTH REIMU AND MARISA COMBINED AND BEAT THEM'' Orin.

>> No.11993425

>>11993407
The casual fans think that Shanghai and Hourai are individual dolls, rather than Alice having tons of each (and a bunch of other kinds themed after different locations).

>> No.11993481

Does anybody have WaHH ch 21?

>> No.11993537

>>11993416
They were zombies so it's okay.

>> No.11993754

>>11993021
I don't enjoy many Touhou related things, like I usually save less than 20% of the total of stuff I download.

But the few things I keep, I make sure to enjoy them thoroughly

>> No.11993970

>>11993411
As an evil youkai. A fair portrayal.

>>11993481
A bunch of people in Japan who bought the magazine.

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>>11993425
Heck, Shanghai and Hourai are just spellcard names right? All of her dolls are unnamed (Maybe except Goliath)

Also, Volume 2 exclusive cover of Forbidden Scrollery makes me wish there's a 2hu board game.

>> No.11994645

>>11990530
>Do all official Touhou manga suck this much?
Yes
>Aren't there any interesting ones?
No

>> No.11994674

>>11994637
I always though Shanghai and Hourai were one kind of her doll arsenal and not just the spll name, like you name the same family kind of guns. Same thing for the other dolls.

>> No.11994724

>>11991166
>Good think ZUN doesn't wants nor needs to pander to fans and rather just shares his vision of Gensokyo with everyone who might like it.

Couldn't agree more. This I think is one of the most defining and strongest parts about the series.

>> No.11994888

>>11994724
Many people would disagree, but i think ZUN is really good at creating atmosphere. So good that it's kind of his weakness, It's too limited and i wish to see more of it.

>> No.11994892

>>11994888
Sometimes the lack of information is preferable, that way there is more room for speculation. It's one of the reasons why touhou is so big in the first place

>> No.11994897
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All I'm asking is for more good looking boy characters who actually have names. At least one more? Maybe? Please ZUN. They don't even have to be in the games! Come on...

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>>11992540
Oh shit. Is this a canon pairing?

>> No.11994904

>>11994897
ZUN is scared that it might cause disaster and not fit into the overall setting of touhou.

Also, people would riot because they are scared that their waifu might be defiled, not sure if ZUN would honestly care about that though.

I for one would very much like touhou characters that are boys. Mind you, I'm saying "touhou characers that are boys" because I would want them to be just regular touhou characters who just happen to be male

>> No.11994915

>>11992540
someone shop sakuya and rinnosuke to get some niggas mad

>> No.11994919

>>11992505
>still barefeet
my benis

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>>11994897
>boy characters
>Touhou

>> No.11995022

>>11995007
Not even an androgynous one?

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>>11995007
Fuck you bitch. Boys are cute. What are you, a lesbo?

>> No.11995089

>>11995082
Depends.
Feminine boys are cute, but the "handsome" boys fujoshis like are ugly.

Actual women have shit taste in husbandos, they also always like the douchebags, never the cute, shy boy.

>> No.11995107

>>11995082
They are okay if they stay in the doujin territory.

Speaking of which...
http://exhentai.org/g/570214/f721fecbd2/
http://exhentai.org/g/551410/04bb807db8/

>> No.11995438

>>11992518
OH SHIT HIJIRI FINALLY

>> No.11995442

>>11993408
she's pulling her by her wrist shitlard

>> No.11995446

>>11992550
huh, I can't recall seeing them so pissed

>> No.11995495

>>11994904
>Also, people would riot because they are scared that their waifu might be defiled

If that's the case, then people would have been pissed off that Rinnosuke exists when he was introduced. But now, people accept him fine just like everyone else.

Touhou fandom seems to be one of that fandom that Japanese won't throw a tantrum when there's a male character. They're not like in IM@S when Jupiter was first shown, a lot of people were pissed over that.

>> No.11995509

>>11995495
Maybe because Rinnosuke is way too beta and weak to defile anything

>> No.11995515

How come posts just randomly vanished for no appearant reason?

>> No.11995522

>>11995509
>weak
yes
>beta>
hell no, he's awesome. At least, he's not like the typical harem protagonist

>> No.11995563

>>11995509
he's not beta, he just doesn't give a shit. Hell, he's alpha in his own way, he just does whatever he wants, really.

>> No.11995566

>>11995509
>Rinnosuke
>Beta

He's actually a smooth talker. He didn't hold back when speaking to the girls, heck when Youmu visited Kourindou for the first time, he's actually being playful mean to her. Something no beta can do.

And yeah, Rinnosuke is a unique kind of male character that i rarely see in a series filled with girls.

>> No.11995586

If I want to start reading the mangas where should I start? I like light-hearted adventures and playful romps and lolis and punk rock.

>> No.11995595

>>11995586
>light-hearted adventures and playful romps
The Three Fairies series seems to be your best bet.

>punk rock.
We need a Kyouko/Mysita spinoff manga/

>> No.11995596

I know it's not exactly a manga, but am I the only one who enjoyed the grimoire of marisa?

I just loved reading the describtions of all these spells and Marisas thoughts on them.

It granted me a whole different perspective about how danmaku works

>> No.11995600

>>11995566

Ya' know, or he's just a regular adult male.

I don't see how tease girls that are much, much younger than you is considered "alpha". Isn't he just being a normal human being?

Since he isn't a strict type of adult that demands respect, he playfully teases or goes along with their whims instead.

>> No.11995610

>Rinnosuke doesn't fuck every girl he finds
>HE IS A BETA AND A WEAK MALE

>> No.11995618

>>11995595
Thank you for responding.

>> No.11995627

>>11995446
They're young girl, and they just saw a ghost messing with love.

>> No.11995630

>>11994904
Except there are people creating fan version of Youki, as well as Myouren.

>> No.11995636

>>11995630
Fan stuff is irrelevant though.

>>11995610
That's how it works, you got a problem with that?

>> No.11995640

>>11994897
That style...
I'm sure that guy made a short showing Reisen being fucked in the ass by Eirin.

>>11995636
Fan stuff is 90% of Touhou. It IS relevant. Just check every comment on a picture where Sakuya appears. It's PAD jokes everywhere.

>> No.11995647

>>11995640
Secondaries do not influence canon content creation...mostly.

Besides, I'm mostly interested in Touhou for the superior OSTs.

>> No.11995655

>>11995647
What YOU care about isn't relevant.
What is relevant is what influences the fanbase as a whole. Sakuya wearing pads or Remilia going "Charisma Uuu~" ARE relevant, despite your wishes, because they accepted by the whole fanbase (except for hipsters like you), and yet are recognized as not-canon (except by secondaries).

You are a moron if you think the Touhou fanbase is just "50% just playing game", and "50% being secondaries only interested in fanstuff". It's not black and white, there are many shades of gray along the way.

>> No.11995660

>>11995596
I like Symposium more, but i like you taste

>> No.11995669
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>>11995655
Woah dude calm down

just chill

no one cares

>> No.11995673

>>11995655
Easy there with your opinions there buddy, nobody tried to discredit your precious fanon, but fan interpretations are simply irrelevant in a discussion about canon such as this one.

That being said, just because kids like you feel the need to belong to a community while spouting overused memes doesn't means that they have any relevance at all

>> No.11995678

>>11995669
I'm not mad, I'm just explaining. I'm talking about the fanbase as a whole, but this guy just talks about his own opinion and personal taste.

Not my fault he misunderstood "let's talk about fanstuff the fanbase accepted" with "let's talk about opinions".


>>11995673
Except fan interpretations ARE relevant. Since even you know about them. The fact that the majority of the fanbase accepted them as true and the fact that the rest of the fanbase is aware of them is proof that they are relevant and can't be shoved away with a quick "this is just someone's headcanon".
And the rest of your post has no relation with what I said earlier.

>> No.11995684

>>11995678
I honestly don't understand you are logic. How does shitty memes influence canon creation? Do shitposters give ZUN bad ideas while he's drunk?

>> No.11995690

>>11995678
Every single person on the earth could acknowledge a fanon theory as true, but it wouldn't matter nor would it make it relevant unless ZUN says so.

ZUN always has the last word, and as long as he doesn't completly confirm a theory it will always remain nothing but speculation no matter how plausible it sounds

>> No.11995700

>>11995684
I'm sorry, I really lack the vocabulary to explain what I mean. I'll try to say it differently.

There is the Touhou fanbase. It's really big.
There are several kind of fans. From the one who only plays the shmup games, to the one who never touched them.
There are things that influence the whole fanbase, either directly, either indirectely.
For example, when a new manga is released, it influences directly the reading fans, and influences indirectly the fans that only play the game (because hearsay and such).
Which means that even if they don't care about the books, they are aware of it.

Now, let's say there is a new epik funny meme XDDD made by some moron like KimikoMuffin.
Let's pretend it's called "Kyouko's theme goes with anything", and represents Myouren dancing while Kyouko's theme is playing.
Somehow, it get popular, and it's of course spammed and reposted everywhere.
Even if you don't care, you end up learning about it, and you end up being influenced by it.
In that way, it was relevant, since it can be recognized by all fans.

So even if you don't like it or don't care about it, you ended up learning about it. So it ends up being relevant, since it touched the majority of the fanbase.
Do you get my point?


And to get back to the main logic, since Myouren and Youkai are popular despite being males, I highly doubt making a male character would be as catastrophic as ZUN thinks.

>> No.11995703

And before you answer, I'm going to bed, so I won't be able to answer your post or explain anything else.
G'night, mates.

>> No.11995715

>>11995700
you have a strange definition of the word relevant
I'm not sure it means what you think it means

>> No.11995813

>>11995700
I think I get what you mean.

But fanon content is meant to be adulterated. As long as I get a good enough experience out of some of the hundreds of thousands of pieces of fanon artwork lying around, I'm happy.

In short, nothing will ever be pure.

>> No.11995828

>>11992532
>Star Sapphire is bullying Shinmyoumaru.

A final boss getting jobbed by a Fairy? Sukuna worst final boss.

>> No.11996027

>>11995828
how do you know Sukuna got bullied?
It doesn't look like bullying to me
Sukuna is not resisting, Star is smiling

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11996563

>>11995446
That's just their "it's an incident" face.

>>11995563
>alpha in his own way, he just does whatever he wants
It's called "omega".

>>11995595
>We need a Kyouko/Mysita spinoff manga
And how.

>>11996027
>Star is smiling
She's always smiling when she's about to hurt someone.

>> No.11996615

>>11995655
>>11995700
Fanbase as a whole is composed of singular people whose opinions are irrelevant. That ZUN has the last word is about the only thing a majority would agree upon (and even then we have to speak of majority instead of entirety because of fags like you).

You need to work on distinguishing between people recognizing that some idiot is forcing a stupid meme, and people accepting its contents. Sakuya being flat is no different from, say, Earth being flat. Everyone is aware of the existence of that theory, and some are actually still pushing it. It does not, however, affect humanity's perception of Earth as a spheroid in any way.

You also need to work on your familiarity with canon if you think Remilia's guarding pose is a fan creation. I assure you the more you will learn about actual lore, the less you will pay attention to secondary crap.

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11996777

>>11996027
As you can see from this picture, She grab's Sukuna's clothes and point her finger towards her while smiling.

>> No.11996811

>>11996777
I don't see her grabbing anything.
Sukuna is just having an awkard pose, if you look closely she has one hand on her bow, that's usually a timid pose. They're probably talking about what's the bowl about.

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11997448

Did they ever fanimate SSiB?

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11997451

>>11995595
Oh god, we need this right the fuck now.

>> No.11997512

>>11997448
There was a thing set on the moon before SSiB came out. It had terrible animation, incoherent plot, and a male villain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REQVZDjSyEc

>> No.11997518

>>11997448
I only recall this thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4ohZycoug

>> No.11997531

>>11997518
Well, it's nice, but animation it is not.

>> No.11997560

>>11997448
Sort of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvrBZcba288

>> No.11997617

>>11997560

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0W775-yuDc

A bit more relevant to the plot.

>> No.11997621

>>11997451
Byakuren wants to discipline Mystia for being a bad influence.

... I can see the plot now!

>> No.11997623

>>11997621
And Kyouko leaps to her friend's defense! I love it!

>> No.11997644

>>11997621
Does Byakuren's discipline involve spanking? This will decide which side I'm on.

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11997689

>>11997621
>>11997451


http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/seems_like_wriggle_is_joining_choujuu_gigaku

>> No.11998027

>>11994637
"Goliath" is just a magical modification on one of her usual dolls.
Any single doll can become "Goliath".

>> No.11998028

>>11998027
Prove it.

>> No.11998041

>>11992536
Why does that glasses guy remind me of Full Metal Alchemist?

>> No.11998074

>>11997621
When will Mystia persuade Kyouko to get her ear pierced?

>> No.11998086
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11998086

>>11998074
Never.

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11999431

>>11998041
Shou Tucker

>> No.11999479

But silent sinner in blue is pretty much perfect.
You are dumb.

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11999690

>>11999479

Toyohime you're not welcome on this board

>> No.12001806

Yes, they're all pretty boring with very little going on. SSiB is probably the only official Touhou manga where something actually happens, so if you're looking for something more eventful, you've already read it. Everything else is just take it easy and try not to fall asleep while reading if you were looking for exciting stuff. The fairy manga and WaHH are pretty cute though. Look into some doujinshi, they cover a much broader range of genres. You're definitely more likely to find something more fun to read there.

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12001845

>>11999690
That picture reminds me, Koishi Komeiji's Heart Throbbing Adventure was pretty interesting.
At least until everyone went batshit insane and the story fell apart due to the introduction of deeper plot.

The character interaction was intriguing.

>> No.12001887

>>12001806
>m-muh shounenshit
i just want to take it easy with the 2hus

>> No.12002255 [DELETED] 

>>12001887
who u quot dude

>> No.12003778

Why is it that all the Touhou manga are like this?

I mean yeah, SSiB was godawful, but at least it focused on the stuff that mattered.

Every fucking other manga focused on slice of life stuff, which I highly doubt anyone is interested in reading all that much.

What would you like to see: Marisa Master Sparking some horrible youkai into oblivion, or Sukuna pranking Reimu?

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>>12003778
You mean Master Spark vs. Lunarian hax? I liked SSiB's occasional slice of life moments and Reimu's tacky swimwear but that's all. Inaba was much more to my liking.

>> No.12003828

>>12003778
Never mind what the term actually means - how is solving supernatural mysteries and dealing with dangerous magical creatures "slice of life" under even the broadest t/a/rd definition?

What would you consider "not slice of life", an overarching plot where the characters set on a journey to save the entire Gensokyo from an impending doom? I honestly don't understand.

>> No.12003834

>>12003828
Because half the story is them talking about their daily life and ignoring the plot.

>> No.12003870

>>12003834
Even that's not true. They mostly talk about the plot. Do they just talk too much for your liking?

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12005695

Faceless male is canon now.

>> No.12005716

>>12005695
Still not generic enough, and he doesn't have the classic smiling mouth.

>> No.12005768

>>12005695
Did you mean "eyeless"?
Yeah, he doesn't look generic

>> No.12012424

>>12005716
>>12005768
But i've seen a lot of faceless man without the usual hair down cut that looks like every single insert male characters out there.

>> No.12014266

>>11992735
>the worst thing to have the official Touhou name

Which is what? SSiB?

>> No.12014268

>>11992797

Don't listen to Ondore's lies!

>> No.12014280

>>11995640

Where does the whole PAD thing come from anyways? I was wondering about that earlier today. Is there a specific video or doujin that started it?

>> No.12014367

>>12014280
It came from how Alphes draws breasts and ZUN doesn't. So fans insisted that Sakuya was padding in her fighting game portraits.

>> No.12017992

http://www.e-hon.ne.jp/bec/SA/Detail?refBook=978-4-7580-1374-1&Sza_id=MM

It looks like WaHH volume 4 will be out this May.

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