/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I'm playing Emerald 1.8 myself. Trying to decide on a team. There are too many good options.

>>11423465
Is that Advent Reisen there on your bench? That's no good. You have to keep her around so that she doesn't sneak off into the bed of a random off-road trainer while you're looking the other way.

Never played Touhoumon what's a good one to start with?

>>11423670
This one is considered to be pretty good: http://lkaexe.supersanctuary.net/thmnemer18/
You'll have to adapt a bit from standard Pokemon because the typings are a bit different, but aside from that, it's pretty much smooth sailing if you have played Pokemon Emerald in the past.

So, /jp/, what would you say is the WORST Touhoumon version?

Personally, I'd say it's a toss up between Insane and Another World, but I'd love to hear about even worse than that.

>>11423710
I do think these cover the bases pretty well. Back in the days, I played one hack that was pretty damn bullshit as well - at one time, your rival turns up and throws (amongst others) a Mima at you - her typing was Ghost/Dark, which completely lacks any sort of weaknesses in 1.5. Of course, she comes down at you with level 30 and several moves with base power above 100, while all wild Touhou you could grind on were on the level 10 to 12 stage. This encounter makes me aggressive even by remembering it. Too bad that I forgot the name of this particular hack, but I'd say that it was damn annoying as well.

>>11423731
I believe that's World Link, which, coincidentally, was made by the same person that made Another World.

themoreyouknow.jpg

>>11423731
Isn't Dark weak to Steel on 1.5 Touhoumon?
But yeah, that does seem like bullshit. "Hope you enjoy grinding!" is not a good way to make a hard RPG.

>>11423761
Yeah, it might be. I might have misremembered, or was too stupid to read the type chart.

I played the Emerald with working Battle Frontier, Another World and World Link. Which version should i play next? Anything good been released recently?

>>11423795
I think you already did the most noteworthy ones. Personally, I find it hard to go back to 1.5 after having extensively played 1.8.

>>11423670
If you want kanto you could try puppet play enhanced. It was my first one and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Yes, even the music.

>>11423710
i'd rather replay another world than play world link again though. aw was flawed, but not totally unplayable. pretty okay if you just want to turn your brain off and space bar the entire game away.

>>11423710
Touhoumon Extra is basically Insane with more flash mazes. Including one IN YOUR OWN HOUSE.

>>11425203
Touhou Extra is such shit. It takes everything Insane did bad, and makes it even worse. MORE MEMES. WORSE WRITING. MORE GRINDING. MORE FLASH MAZES. I'm actually impressed that you can fuck up that badly. At least Another World and World Link are playable. Insane and Extra are in a league all to their own.

The only 1.5 hack I've played is that one with the shit starters and that gives you a vocaloid near the beginning. Needless to say I turned it off immediately after the latter happened. Maybe I should try Blue, I've heard good things.. Then again I don't really want to deviate from the 1.8 typing system so nevermind.

If I recall correctly there's a promising new 1.8 hack being made. What's the news on that?

>>11425726
World Link gave you a Miku early who had a stat total on par with Arceus for no reason.

Oh good, I was just looking for this thread.

I just finished mindlessly triggering random battles in New Mauville so I could get myself a CYumemi.

It took like 2 hours.

>>11423465

Where'd you get the shards? I want to make my Yorihime a Speed but no-shard-anywhere.

>>11425784
Yeah, that's the one. But I mean, why the fuck? For one it's not Touhou. Another, couldn't you absolutely fucking murder the rest of the game with that piece of shit alone? You can already do that sans a puppet with ridiculous stats.

>>11425924
Yumemi takes ages, though I got pretty lucky with her. Yumeko on the other hand was ridiculous.

>>11425924
Honestly, that save is pretty old, so I'm not sure. Have you been using your itemfinder? I want to say check the trick house, but I think that's a defense shard.

>>11425938
Look at Wild Hold Items.txt and Locations.txt, CNue and CByakuren both hold a red ufo 100% of the time and I think you can find both in the mach bike area of the safari zone.

That's only if you've gotten to Mossdeep to exchange them though, otherwise I believe CRins in the fiery pathhold speed shards, but thats like a 5% chance.

I grew bored of Enhanced and already finished Emerald, so I'm playing Final Fantasy Tactics Advance instead.

Is there any game with the same mechanics, but based on Touhou? Better yet, is there a Touhou mod for it?

>>11425969
there's a free swift shard in new mauville, right next to the generator even

i'm probably going to add one final source of shards at absolute postgame for maximum trade laziness, so i guess there's that to look forward to if you like using vbalink

>>11423710
every single one of them. touhou games should at least have some challenge. pokemon are the absolute bottom of the no-skill kind of game. le collecting qt grills, how fun! kill everyone who calls these "touhou games". they're not. they're touhou games as much as they are a pop culture item, an easily acquired pass to meme spawning realm and shitty fanon identification.

>>11426006

The Edgemaster, Dark Darkenson.

Did you even try playing 1.8? It's rebalanced and actually challenging unless you're a fucking baby and grind up way past your level.

>LOL DANMAKU GAMES AREN'T EVEN HARD IT'S JUST ABOUT ROTE MEMORIZATION
>IS MEMORIZATION EVEN A GAME

etc.

>>11426212
Everyone is entitled to his opinion. Personally, I enjoy the grinding part of Touhoumon because it allows me to shut down my brain and relax, while still making my favorite 2hu more and more powerful so that she can crush her enemies with ease. Of course, I can also see that that's not for everyone.

>>11425968
I hear that there is a hack called "Touhou Emblem" for FE4. As for FFT, I don't know of anything like that. Though if you want to have a party of cute girls only, there are enough characters like that I believe.

>>11425924
I've been looking for a CMugetsu for so long. So fucking long. And even before that, for a Lucky Egg from CTewi. As >>11425950 said, CYumeko was also a pain. Or CKanako. Dem rarities...

>>11425977
Want to weight in on that discussion on the random number generator in your hack that is currently taking place in the Shoddy forums? From what I can see, the memory location for the RNG seed that this one LUA script has does still work, i.e. it starts at 0 and counts up from there. However, as mentioned, the seed seems to be wrong, so does the patch you used for a different RNG source use a completely different memory address instead of overwriting the default seed?

>>11426729
i applied this to em
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=217115

i guess i'll post that on the forum too since it'd be figured out sooner or later, it's not my choice on how somebody is going to play the game after all

Hi jp. I finished the E4 in emerald with my mons level 60 something. My team has Skoishi, futo, Tojiko, miko, reimu and tenshi. What should I do next or include in my team?

>>11426784
You could try the Battle Frontier. But it will be hard. I personally don't have the motivation to keep playing after the Elite 4, so I usually quit or start with a new team.

>>11426784
steven, blatantly broken bullshit weather trio captures, regis, battle frontier (there's some legendaries there too)

there's not much grind left now that you can just freely grab rare candy, so don't worry too much about that

>>11426784
Post a championship capture of your team!

>>11427319
Dang, forgot to capture it. I can show you their ribbons though later, on another comp.

N-no... pls no...

Out of all the times I have played Emerald, this is the third shiny I have found... and the second time it was Chen. N-no, I can't stand those blue lips anymore...

Am i right in guessing that Kokoro is not present in any version?

>>11427746
Yes.

>>11427750
This makes me a sad, especially with stuff like this floating around.

>>11427760
The relevant, i.e. good Touhoumon hacks, already have all puppet slots filled up, so there's no adding new ones unless you purge one or more of the old ones.

>>11426729

>or CKanako

Wait, CKanako is hard to get? I regret not catching it now when I ran into it!

>>11427763
Can't you "extend" the memory of roms? I mean, I'm not trying to imply that it's just that simple. If that were the case it would have already been done, but I'm curious.

>>11427733
Hahaha. Just keep her in Chibi form or evolve her to Advent/Technical. Alternatively, convince Agastya to use the Blue version palette.

>>11427763
You could always delete advents, or Dark Alice, or formes.

>>11427847
Wow, the black version looks pretty cool.

Started playing wLink, only raising Patchy, is like fucking Rambo

This reminds me I have to finish playing moemon.

>>11427847
I think I'll go with TChen. Tailwind plus Baton Pass sounds good in my book. The only problem that remains is that I don't remember when you run across a technical shard. If I'm not mistaken, it was pretty late in the game.

>>11427895
There's one in the first floor of Meteor Falls but it's hidden, search around. Once you get the Super Rod you can also fish there for rare CToyohimes who rarely hold them. And there's the UFO traders.

(I giggled a bit when I read that CSanae holds Shrine Maiden)

My problem with Touhoumon is that I always try to optimize and cook up these ideal teams with perfect movesets, yet actually obtaining them in the game is never possible until like, post game, and I end up with completely shit coverage in the meantime.

>>11427979
I was like you just until recently. Then I realized that even the shittiest typing hits at least 13 of 17 types for neutral damage. That usually means that any two different typings will hit 16 or all 17 typings. You might not score 1HKOs without hitting for 2x damage, but those other two move slots could benefit you much more in the long run, i.e. status, buffs, haze and whatever. Oh, and if you limit yourself to two attacking moves, you're usually well covered by the moves you obtain via leveling up.

>>11427956
Oh, really? Isn't there already a defense shard in Meteor Falls? Or is it possibly in one of these locations you can only access later (since you also mentioned the super rod).

>>11428020
I checked the archive for "tech shard" to get the answer, but I'm pretty sure I remember it being there the last time I played. Confirmation is welcome.

I caught myself an Adamant and a Modest Koa with Synchronize. Any other useful natures I might want to look out for? Timid, maybe? I don't usually have defensive Touhou, so I'm not sure what the best natures for those generally are.

I don't like the type changes they did with the "enhanced" update.
I stick to playing the older versions

>>11428179
You're missing out, but if you insist.

>>11428186
I played the RED version up to the third gym leader, I didnt like the changes of how things worked.
learning and guessing the types of new pokemon are enough for a cool experience for a "new pokemon" game. but relearning every type is too much especially when I already memorized what types the touhous were before.

>>11428197
1. Go to http://maya.sector-5.net/py/touhou/interactive/
2. Type in the Touhou you encounter
3. See all their strengths and weaknesses!
4. ???
5. PROFIT!

Alternatively, go here: http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/Type_Chart and print it/put it somewhere on your monitor where you can see it and look up types as needed.

>>11428205
that takes the fun out of it

>>11428205
Don't forget the physical/special split. I also understand not wanting to unlearn all the things I remember from vanilla Pokémon.

>>11428172

Natures don't matter much for single player. Yeah, they have an impact, but it's not nearly as noticeably when you and your opponents aren't level 100 with max'd IVs. I wouldn't even worry about it if you just plan to bog through the game; you'll crack Elite 4 by 60ish, and even if you intend to do post-game, I still wouldn't fuss.

>>11428225
What's there to complain about with the split? If anything, the game becomes much better with it. The earlier incarnation was much too simplistic for my taste.

>>11428231
It's a major change. In itself it's probably a good change, but on top of rearranged typings it means more to unlearn. It's manageable but I still like the 1.5x hacks for casually playing with Touhous and not being too different from the generation 2 ones I grew up with.

>>11428062
There actually was a Tech Shard in Mt. Moon. Not even hidden, just up the second ramp on the left after the Team Magma/Team Aqua confrontation. Must have confused this for a Defense Shard earlier.

>>11428508
Blue Cat of Ill Omen alright. Guess I'll have to kill myself now.

>>11428519
So I was right about one thing but then completely fucked up by confusing Attack and Technical Chen. I'm really sorry. Can you reload your save?

>>11428537
Well, I could, but I kind of wanted to have TChen for its movepool anyway. Fortunately, I can't see Chen's lips from behind!

>>11428558
It's nice that you're thinking positively about it.

How do you build an effective team?

Should it be like...

- 1 Attacker
- 1 Special Attacker
- 1 Wall
- 1 Special Wall
- 1 Spinner
- 1 Hazard-layer?

I can't into team building. I love lots of Touhou but I don't think they're cohesive together.

>>11428519
Oh god, those lips, what the fuck.

>>11428827
You mean in-game or competitive?

>>11428838
Colour palette made without taking shiny form into account.

Is there anything that older versions have that 1.8 doesn't? I only ever played Insane, and besides all the random strange evolutions like XRumia and SSAlice, there's probably not much they have exclusive, right?

>>11428838

Well, anything in-game can be overcome pretty easily. I mean competitive. It doesn't have to be hardcore/the absolute best or anything, but at least viable.

I know in Pokemon Black even, trying to do the Battle Subway without a reasonably competitive team is just asking to get fucked.

>>11428863

(Sometimes) cuter sprites, and the original Pokemon type-effectiveness chart (which is worse imo, since they make unique combinations that do not normally exist in Pokemon or 1.8, creating Touhous with zero weaknesses and double STABs), and some Dark/EX Touhous (that are busted anyways).

1.8 has best mechanics/type chart, and more exclusive puppets in general (PC-98 stuff, etc).

>>11427839
you have to completely rewrite a bunch of structures. there was a wip patch that extended the fire red pokedex to 649 but it's been put on hold, is forbidden to use as a rom base, and was pretty buggy last i remember

>>11428172
bold, calm, any of the speed+ ones
won't really matter much unless you're going to do the frontier though, for main game just kind of cruise through

>>11427847
removing things is the last thing you should do unless its something that has no need to be there

i only have unown's slot left at this point and there's hardly any reason to include a touhou if there's not going to be a chibi of it too

>>11428876
>I know in Pokemon Black even, trying to do the Battle Subway without a reasonably competitive team is just asking to get fucked.

I went in with my three best attackers and steamrolled the place with no issue.

>>11428897

Forgive me for being cynical, but what 3 pokemon? What line? Longest streak?

The further you go in Battle Subway, the more ridiculous it gets, and the 'mons get perfect IVs.

>>11428917
Probably something easy, I don't remember. I don't remember much from that awful game.
It was as soon as I could access it, though. I remember noticing the EV boosting items for sale and thinking "oh, why the fuck not?"

>>11428892
Well, guess I'm trying 1.8 out then.

Also, a friend linked me this: http://www.fo-lens.net/yumekake/top.html
Is this by the same people as the hacks? The sprite style looks really similar

>>11428961
yeah

hemo said himself 1.812 fr would be the last official build of touhoumon as a fire red hack

so this is likely what he meant, that he's just going to make it into a standalone executable game

>>11428917
you can probably just sub+dragondance your way to victory even with the bw ai

>>11428961
I think so, yeah.
What's the connection between this guy and the english Touhoumons?

>>11428961

The most up to date 1.8 hack is by a resident /jp/sie, agastya (who often lurks and posts helpfulness in these threads), but the sprites were all done by someone else I believe --that Yumekake thing you linked is apparently a spin-off game that the spriters want to make on their own as opposed to Pokemon directly.

>>11428890
>you have to completely rewrite a bunch of structures

Damn. Forget that then.

>>11428970

The battle subway in B/W is complete bullshit on higher levels. You can't just breeze through it. It gets busted.

>Scarf'd Outrage Garchomp

Just google "Battle Subway stories" for a better collection of how fucking stupid it gets.

>>11428827

I think even Touhoumon meta is

Entry hazards > Weather teams > HUEG BST STRONK > anything else.

>>11429012
Oh wow, B/W has some teeth. I didn't think it had the games had it in them.

>>11429049

A lot of it isn't even fair teeth though.

It's like AI reading your moves and counter-picking, or getting Flinch/Crits 10 times in a row (consistently; not random. Usually happens around a 250 streak).

Fun for a while but if you're trying to go for a record streak you will probably just end up being disgusted.

>>11429030
its usually a lot more balanced than that, there's no auto-weather other than sand stream and everything has bst in the 480-560 range so if it has nice enough stats for its movepool it'll work

>>11429012
i'm glad scarf wasn't in emerald, the frontier would have looked even dumber then

there's a lot of stuff i saw in higher ranks that had quick claws or brightpowder

there was even a sheer cold/horn drill/rest/sleep talk lapras with defensive eving.. twice

it just exists to end your streams more than it does to challenge you sometimes

though scarf button is one hell of a drug

Can anyone help me build a team out of my favorites? I don't mind you switching the types (Like A, D, S, T) to make it work.

I like :

- Mokou
- Reisen
- Yumemi
- Yorihime
- Marisa
- Tenshi
- Nitori
- Suwako
- Keine
- Byakuren
- Shou

That's really the pool I'd like to draw from, if possible Hopefully some of them are viable enough to getgud and be competitive.

>>11429091

>sheer cold/horn drill/rest/sleep talk lapras with defensive ev

Fuck that. Fuck that to death.

>>11429119

Yumemi has nice 125 Speed/125 Special Attack, but Ice typing sucks ass. Even in Touhoumon, it still sucks ass.

>>11429119
that entire pool is competitive. here's some suggestions on forms:

defense/advent mokou
- defense is annoying to crack, advent hits hard

reisen/advent reisen
both are really fast, advent has high satk with heart/reason stab, regular reisen is also fast but has access to mist ball to hit a little harder

yumemi
-really fast special cleaner, powerful stab ice beam and luster purge

speed yorihime
- good fast calm mind cleaner. regular yorihime can work but she's unfortunately a lucario without life orb

attack/speed marisa
power vs speed and coverage, attack has ridiculously powerful blast burns but is completely shut down by earths

attack/defense tenshi
- power vs utility, attack is in the (un)fortunate 95 speed tier and has belly drum/swords dance, defense is a sturdy physical wall that can spike without reliable recovery

nitori/attack nitori
self setup swift swim rain sweepers, nitori is special while attack is physical

attack suwako
- earth/steel typing blocks both rapid spins, good bulk, nice 80 speed, hits crazy hard

helper/attack keine
wall with no weaknesses and recovery vs miniature aggron

technical byakuren
swords dance extremespeed cleaner, can bulk up too

attack shou
physical sweeper with stab earthquake and tailwind

good luck

>>11429165

Whoa, thanks for that breakdown.

I'll toss Nitori out since I'm not doing a Swift Swim/Rain team. Marisa being completely shut down by Earth also seems like a bad idea.

That leaves me 3 more to cut. Hmmm. maybe Byakuren next on the chopping block.

>>11429188

I'd cut Attack Shou if you're keeping Suwako. Suwako hits harder and also has STAB earthquake.

#based suwako

>>11429165

So Attack Tenshi is 2slow, but when you say Defense Tenshi can spike without reliable recovery, do you mean for the enemy or for Tenshi?

>>11429266
it's not that she's too slow, there's just a lot of offensive stuff that hangs out in the 90-100 area so you may end up staring down a lot of speed ties. also, dtenshi herself doesn't have recovery other than rest, hence no reliable recovery.

>just realized there's no Stealth Rock in 1.8

O-oh.

Shit. We Fire type again. I'm actually a bit excited.

>>11428890
> unown's slot left at this point and there's hardly any reason to include a touhou if there's not going to be a chibi of it too

Give a TD an Alt form? Cape Miko sounds exciting

>>11429279
>>11429266

I love Peach Hat but I don't think I'd run her for exactly those reasons. Speed ties and Rest aren't reliable.

Chop dat 2hu

Welp, I had no idea this was a thing. Gonna play some Touhoumans on my newly acquired game boy flashcart.

Alright, so that leaves

- Attack Suwako
- Advent Mokou
- Reisen/Adv Reisen (not sure yet)
- Helper/Attack Keine (not sure yet)
- Yumemi
- Speed Yorihime

Time to see what my glaring weaknesses are!

>>11429296

If you're just joining us, the consensus after many threads is to play either :

- Touhoumon Emerald 1.8
or
- Touhoumon Emerald 1.8 Hardmode (removes EVs/IVs and Natures)

>>11429313
hard doesn't remove natures, it just hides them

you can still get hindering natures but not know about them unless you do the math yourself, but it's really not that much worse than normal if you already use set mode and don't spam potions

>>11429302
the most immediately noticeable thing is earth will hit half that team super effectively

>>11429313
>natures
It does?

>>11429302

Advent Reisen is way faster; worth it IMO.

>>11429329

Does in mine, at least. All natures are listed as "??" Nature.

Abilities are still present obviously.

>>11429325
>>11429329
>>11429340

Ah. I see. It's just... hiding them. I guess to encourage me to catch multiple copies of Touhou I want and to do the math on their stats to figure out what they are.

This is kind of annoying as opposed to hard. I assumed it was just forcing a neutral nature on everyone.

>>11429346
it's so you don't worry about natures, it's not encouraging anything

a hindering nature is not going to murder you ingame as badly as you think it is

>>11429091
I remember that fucking Lapras, she was even there in Diamond and Pearl. She was holding a Leppa Berry, or the Leppa Berry equivalent, so that she could keep spamming instakill attacks even if she ran out of PP. And of course the AI cheats, too; there's no way it should have hit as much as it did.

>>11429353

Why not force Natures if you don't want people to worry about it?

Throwing a blanket over it doesn't remove the worry, it just adds an element of annoyance in learning the actual nature.

>>11429360
forcing natures is probably more work than i care to do when i'd just make everything neutral and it seemed like a good idea at the time, considering hiding them was just two bytes i need to edit i could revert it if i really wanted to

it's a nice way to check if you accidentally patched hard or not though, there's a lot of people that seem to think that they need to patch hard for some reason or another..

>>11425113
You know, I kinda forgot about WL. I guess it just didn't leave as much as an impact on me, since the whole game was rather clunky and silly.

Another World started out good, and made me think it was gonna do something amazing, though. I guess I think that because it got my hopes up only to throw a ZReimu at me and smash those hopes into the ground, and after that it was just disappointing, especially after how decent the first portion of the game before Kanto was actually done. Maybe that's because the original plot ran out after that, I guess...

Coincidentally, it was your run of those games that both showed me how horrible they were and made me want to play them. Call me a masochist if you want, but I guess I just wanted something different.

>>11429405
Now the only thing to do is make Agastya do a Nuzlocke of Touhoumon Extra.

>>11429302

Earthpower and Earthquake are both pretty popular, unfortunately for you.

Are there any combinations other than Heart/Reason that have no weaknesses?

>>11429439

Well, a Pure Illusion type wouldn't have any, but no Touhou has that typing.

>>11429446
Except for Satsuki Rin, but she doesn't exist anyways.

>>11429453
She should, damn it! Especially in this game.

>>11429455
Well, she exists, but only the Elite Four gets her. In Agastya's version, even if you cheat to get her, she doesn't have a backsprite.

That's one of the advantages TPPE has; Satsuki Rin exists as a legendary in it.

>>11429446
yet

>>11429459
She does!? I didn't see her in the Touhoudex.

>>11429439
Another World has a couple of ??? types for weird reasons and ??? has no weakness.

>>11429465
That's because she's in one of Unown's "hidden" indices, so she doesn't have a visible Dex entry.

>>11429462
Man, I love Nature Power.

i should probably write the scripts for this area at some point before i forget that this still happens

>>11429495
Are you working on your own version? Will you tell us about it?

>>11429439

Heart/Dream is another good type; only 2x Weakness to Faith and bundles of resists.

Flying/Wind (ie Aya) also popular; 2x to Ice and Steel + bundles of resists and Earth immunity.

>>11429439

Earth/Water is good, only has one weakness (but it is a doozy; 4x Nature)

>>11429498
i'm going to do my best to avoid blogging about it in this thread but yeah, here's the current stuff i have done http://pastebin.com/VJw1gdJb

right now i'm working on the southern island/birth island events. birth is mostly done (i haven't inserted notdeoxys' sprites yet) and southern has a lot of scripts i need to apply, but the maps are done. you can get the relevant tickets at the battle frontier in what used to be the move tutor house after defeating steven.

>>11429560
Thanks, I'll just check the pastebin.

To complement my TChen with Tailwind, I'm currently raising a Yuugi (http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/Yuugi).).

Now, I'm probably set on Earthquake, Brick Break and Bulk Up. The last move is a toss-up between Force Palm and Ice Punch. I'm thinking Ice Punch is better (to hit both Flying, which are immune to Earth and strong against Dream, and to kill Nature stuff, which Yuugi is weak against). Any considerations?

>>11431670
strength over brick break for attack boosts

ice punch is better just so you can hit birds, i'd normally suggest steel fist but since all your moves are 100 acc i'm going to assume you don't want to risk missing

seriously though, fuck birds

>>11431683
Strength, huh? I didn't consider HM moves. Thanks!

Hi agastya would you mind it if:
- I made a hack that's based on yours which does something that is outside of the scope of your hack and isn't stupid "I just learned how to romhack" shit like inserting shitty MIDI touhou music ports or making gym leaders have ridiculous and impossible puppet movesets
- I release it as a patch that's meant to be applied to a copy of emerald already patched with your patch, no data of your hack actually being distributed
- I discontinue old versions and update my patch whenever yours renders it incompatible and have the same distribution requirements as you, to prevent my hack from encouraging people to distribute old versions of yours

>>11429313

I'm late, but yeah I'm new to the party, so I appreciate this!

>>11431689
yes i would because i have stated i don't want it being used as a base rom (which is disrespectful to the original hacker) but then it becomes direspectful to both the hacker and the player by saying "to play this you need to get this guy's hack and then apply my patch to their hack" and that's simply not cool

i haven't done anything special with that any other person couldn't do with all the available tools, so it's not that hard to just do it yourself. it's also far more satisfying knowing everything you've done with your rom is your own work (barring graphics of course but eh) and not just something you piggybacked for maximum lazy.

it'd be for the best to start from a clean rom too, since there's not much room left for expanding it - there's only unown's slot left for adding one single puppet, there's not a lot of free space left in the rom, and if you try to add too many more trainers then you'll start having npcs that don't work or even overwrite previously set ingame events.

>>11431707
What tools and documentation have you used to make your romhack? I want to follow in your footsteps, please respond.

>>11425924
I'm in the process of repeating this story. I think I'm already 30 minutes in (with turbo!)

>>11432116
Fuck it, gave up after a while. Now I'm in Fortree City gym and don't have anything to deal with Flying stuff. No wind, no ice, and the only steel move I have is on TChen, who is weak to Flying herself. Guess I'll have to make my way to the move tutor after all to boost up Yuugi with Ice Punch, at the least.

Is my version of emerald broken or something: at the 5th gym and its grindy as fuck, all the wilds touhous only give like 200-400xp where you need 10000's to level up. Remebering the 1.5 FireRed version never felt this grindy.

>>11432557
FireRed has the Vs. Seeker. But don't worry too much if there's nowhere else to level, because once you get Surf you can find evolved Touhous that give out plenty of experience.

>>11432557
Depends on how many Touhou you raised and which types you raised. If you have a good typing (i.e. earth or water), you can kill most problematic Touhou even in the same level range in the gym. If not, you might be in for trouble if you didn't focus on 2-3 Touhou (and are thus overleveled).

Personally, I always grind the fuck out of CTewi north of the first gym until I find at least one Lucky Egg. Having that makes staying on an appropriate level much, much easier.

>>11432116
>>11432352

I know that feel all too well. It took so long to get CMokou and CYumemi as soon as they're available that I started to worry that it was an error in the text file and they weren't actually available there.

They just have abysmal encounter rates.

I'm playing Touhoumon Blue, a version that was apparently updated with the 1.8 sprites. I'm going to make a hisoutensoku themed team.

>>11432618
Funnily enough, I caught a CMokou as soon as I entered the route where she first appears.

>>11432628
Good luck.

>>11432603
fuck, I'm one of those players that like to keep everyone at the samish level
>>11432579
You have to beat the 5 gym to get surf...

>>11432655

>Reisen - Level 51
>Rest of party - anywhere from L6-L20

Nyehhh. Hypnosis + type coverage = we in there.

>>11432628
...why is she ice type?

>>11432667
Don't you remember her cold stare when she saw your penis?

>>11432663
I solo'd the Elite 4 with this tactic once. Of course, I was abusing save states as hell.

>>11432667
Because she can freeze time.

>>11432673
goddammit

>>11432671
You too? Thought I was the only one.

/jp/, I defeated the Batle Pike and Dome leader. What to do next?

>>11432693
Pyramid.

>>11432703
Geez, so hard. The mons are too tough for me. Say, did anyone of you made a team of all max levels without cheats?

>>11432718
You can exchange one Green UFO for 5 rare candies in some house around the Battle Frontier. That's around 10 to 20 UFOs you have to steal. Work of 5 minutes. The first few levels can easily be gained either by doing EV training.

Got couple of questions about standalone touhoumon that's supposed to come out early 2014.
1. Will it be translated?
2. Will it have any online features?

>>11432847
It will most likely be translated. Touhoumon is popular enough.

>>11432902
I know that I'm going to buy it with actual real money when it comes out. Touhoumon has entertained me enough over the years that it's worth supporting.

>>11432913
Well, yeah, that's probably a good idea.

>>11432693
battle tower

>>11432557
i'm not very happy about that stretch but there wasn't much i could do due to how evolved movepools work. if you can handle jagged pass, the wilds there are worth 400-650xp before egg iirc, which is plenty until you can get to evolved things. i usually don't use eggs when playing so i tried to remove as much tedium as i could, but sadly i am only an eel

I've grown fond of this monster. Even when everyone else is already dead, Lily White is still standing strong and spreading feelings of love and stuff. Even better when I realized that she can Fly too, saving me from adding another HM slave for Fly!

>>11429313
What other things does hardmode do?

>>11433120
- You cannot use items in battle (but neither can your enemy)
- You can only use "Set" battle mode (i.e. you aren't asked to switch when your opponent does)
- You cannot gain EVs
- You cannot see the natures of your Touhou

I think that's pretty much it.

>>11433122
You also can't capture the X form Touhous.

>>11432913
Same.

Is there a way to get Kasen in Emerald?

>>11433339
You can get her from some guy at the Battle Frontier (i.e. after defeating the Elite 4).

How many people here use Shoddy/are interested in using Shoddy?

I want to get more into Touhoumon but now that I'm in the post game there's no point unless people wanna play with me. I'm completely fresh meat when it comes to competitive battles.

>>11433458
From what I can tell, about 5 to 10 people. Probably not everyone is from here. But that's the number of connections to the server, on average. Oh, but do expect to lose in all matches.

>>11433458
there's anywhere from 3-15 connections based on the time of day, mostly regulars

out of them about 5-8 of them battle regularly and maybe 3 or 4 of those are pretty good

right now our "meta" is mostly just counterteaming each other since people tend to figure out what's good and what's not, then they start testing something else.

you'll probably(definitely) be stomped while learning at first but we aren't total assholes and like helping people learn, expect a lot of "that's not _____" if you use a nonstandard move though.

I've been playing pokemon conquest recently. I'm enjoying it so much I feel like I have to go check out the Nobunaga's Ambition games. Like I didn't have enough on my turbonerd weeb list already.

>>11433558
>pokemon conquest
Woah... I wasn't aware this existed. Pokemon truly is the pinnacle of Japanese strategy gaming.

I always hate the beginning of those games because the characters i like are NEVER there.

>>11433558
>touhoumon conquest

Crossoverload

>>11433586
CReisen seems to suck so much in the beginning. Not to mention that she doesn't get a Heart attack in forever. And having Reisen means your opponent will end up with ASanae, and a bunch of other bullshit Touhou that will smash your shit so hard.

>>11433607
She has this weird situation in which she is super effective against Brawly because of her Reason move, yet also gets hit super effective in return by his puppets because of her own type. Winning against TIchirin with Reisen was praying that confuse ray will block mach punch at the right moment.

I'd enjoy some of these hacks more if whoever did them wouldn't put this terrible compressed music in them, they sound terrible.

Also, is there a Touhoumon updated with characters up to DDC?

>>11433676
GBA music always sounds terrible. It's probably 8-bit with heavy dithering.

>>11433676
Remember: It's not a true Touhoumon hack if your champion music isn't some terrible rock remix with vocals.

>>11433702
>with vocals

Has this actually happened?

>>11433720
Yes. Not even on the champion fight.

>>11433702
all the time in aichiya's hacks

>>11433584
Pokemon Conquest has to be one of my favorite Pokemon franchises ever. I believe they're making another one for 3DS.

>>11433779
I haven't heard anything of this. Wouldn't surprise me, though, but there's a lot of hype for X/Y right now, so I doubt they'd announce another game, even if it's a spinoff.

>>11433676
No sprites except Kokoro, and no space to put them without cutting a whole lot of formes.

>>11433697
Only in technical quality, FireRed and Emerald still have nice music.

2chen I know you're in here.

4 cats is a stupid idea.

>>11433850

I know, so I added two more cats.

6 cats now.

I wish the Aki Sister's back sprite was as cool as their regular one.

Team Miko + some bird.

>>11434099
When was TD added? Damn, I've been out of the loop for a while.

>>11434349
A while ago.
They don't show up until Mt. Pyre in Emerald, though.

I should play this again. Maybe something Red/Green this time. Although...having such limited amounts of Touhous until post-game sounds very bad.

It's been a while since I last played. I meant to replay after beating champion, but I wanted to find good IV toohoos and I honestly couldn't be assed.

>>11434099
>>11434558
yessss I fucking love championship team captures. I really need to beat emerald already so I can post my own. My FR team is pretty boring.

>>11433586
but Kyouko is a great character. also hyper voice

>>11433114
She actually sounds pretty useful. A tank on a team is always nice in-game. Would probably be bearable to raise with speed up as well, now that I think about it.

Touhoumon Extra is absolutely ridicolous.

>>11434099
So beautiful. Except for Okuu (sorry, Okuu!).

>>11434558
I fucking hate Ayaya so much.

So fucking much.

>>11433676
Casual Music Patch for Aichiya's exists, the original 1.812 score for FR was actually pretty good

For Aichiyas, The only time I really liked it was in the secret bases in Em, othertimes it was shit.

>>11435072
Rude. Why?

>>11435091
Allow me to describe every confrontation with Ayaya ever:

Round 1:
- Fake Out/Detect; she's faster than you now.
Round 2:
- Tailwind; she's impossibly fast now and stronger than you as well. If you didn't kill her in this round, you're toast.
Round 3+:
- You're toast.

>>11435107
that's only speed/tech aya, regular ayas rarely go offensive and instead are usually bulky spiker/spinner pivots. offensively inclined ayas usually wear themselves down quickly from recoil as well but that doesn't make it any better when things are dying

>>11434349
pretty much instantly once people noticed the sprites. they're around the place in emerald (rustboro kyouko, game corner yoshika/miko, lavaridge egg seiga etc) but not until very late postgame in enhanced (mt silver kyouko lol?)

Look at this spooky hat combo! I'm pretty sure this twirly, pink thing on Minoriko's hat is an alien mind control device.

>>11435386
Tojiko is even worse being in a region you can only enter after beating Red. What the fuck? She's not even a legendary or especially good.

Help, my Reisen can't kill anything unless I abuse Hypnose/Calm Mind into oblivion. Not to mention that she dies to two hits at maximum. At this rate I'll have to replace her with.

>>11435413

Are you using her STABs? Also, keep in mind that if you're playing Hard Mode, the lack of EV/IV means no more free OHKOs unless 10+ levels higher than opponent.

For my run through with Reisen I threw on the Blazer and basically spammed Mirror Shot until I could get my hands on Signal Beam, and then Mana Burst later (for coverage but no STAB).

>>11435425
Alright, I was still on Charge Beam. Slapped some Signal Beam on her now. Hope that will fix some of the problems.

Woah, I never knew you could get a Solar Shard from some random fat dude in the Space Center.

>>11433340
Yeah and once you get a CSariel to trade, she and other legendaries are hiding around that area.

>>11435107
So make toast out of her before she can set up. Or Whirlwind.

>>11435388
They're purple, and they're called "grapes".

I notice that some Touhou have two abilities when grown up, but only one when small. Does that mean the ability is determined at random when leveling/sharding up?

>>11435658
the ability is determined upon capture. if it has two abilities on evo but only one as a chibi, that means as a chibi it has two copies of the same ability, and you don't find out which one it has until it evolves.

>>11435658
No. What ability a puppet will have it determined the second you encounter them in the wild.

For example, if you evolved a CDaiyousei and it had Natural Cure upon evolving, then it will always evolve with Natural Cure, no matter how many times you reset the game

>>11435690
>>11435688
I see. Thanks.

Has anyone ever pulled off a Prismriver sisters team? Something like this, maybe? I didn't really check move sets yet, so I'm not sure how viable this would be.

Just have to be careful when confronting some beasty...

Do you guys ever netplay this? I wouldn't mind putting my touhoumans against /jp/'s

>>11435764
http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=7.0

>>11435764
there's a shoddy server set up to emulate it, but if you want to keep it within vba then vbalink is still usable, even if it does go beyond slow (15-20 fps if youre lucky)

em lets you save a battle replay though, which is nice

>>11435727
Easymode. Try an Aki team.

Watching /vp/ play Touhoumon is hilarious.

>>11437120
Sounds painful.

>>11437120
Well it doesn't really help that they're playing one of the worst hacks

I ran into a Chibi Ellen in Route 102 but ran out of Toho Orbs before I could catch it. Will I be able to find another somewhere else? I've been searching for awhile but haven't seen another.

Touhoumon Emerald 1.812

>>11437534
Yeah, you'll find a lot on Route 113.

>>11437534
It's only on that one route. When you downloaded the patch it comes with a locations text file that you could also check in the future, or you could use the dex.

>>11437264
Someone should educate them. Which one are they playing out of curiosity?

>>11439224
World Link, apparently. Well, at least that's the only thread I see.

>>11439237
I think its unabashed shittiness burned the dude out. Poor bastard.

>>11437534
Just an fyi: it's pretty common for rare pokemon on earlier routes to be far more easily available in later routes. The exception are super rare ones with 1% encounter rates, I think.

>>11439864
>Just an fyi: it's pretty common for rare pokemon on earlier routes to be far more easily available in later routes.
Pissed me off so hard when I was running around in circles for hours trying to catch CMugetsu to no avail at the route she first appears, then caught her within the first three encounters in the Safari Zone.

>>11439874
Yeah, I did the same with Suika. oof

How do you go about resetting/re-training your Touhoumons around/after the Elite 4, i.e. when your EVs are all over the place and you want to use new moves/TMs you acquired over the course of the game? Just breed yourself a new one? Pay 10 million pokedollars to the guy that sells EV-reducing items?

>>11440256
Breed because my 2hus probably had shitty/wrong natures anyway or were evolved into some form i didn't want because i lacked the right shards.

>>11440256
you can feed a puppet to the incubator and fully reset its evs

just don't smash the a button between prompts or else bad eggs will happen since i am gr& at hacking

>>11432847
Any news on that? New pics or videos?

>>11443556
I don't think there's been any new news since it was announced

>>11443599
Great, another stillbirth. All these good ideas, all these dead projects.

>>11443602
Eh. Hemoglobin doesn't seem the type to ditch stuff unannounced.

>>11443602
we probably won't start getting more information about it until a couple of months before its release, that's what happened with 1.8 fr

>>11444054
Wait, so this and fr1.8 are made by the same guy/circle? Pardon my slowness.

>go on Shoddy
>always dead
>the only guy that wants to play runs a team of Chens
>still lose

pls

>>11447738
did he win because he actually outplayed you or did he win because your puppets kept hitting themselves in confusion?

>>11447766

A little from Column A, a little from Column B.

Attach Chen + Slash = shiiiiiet

>>11423677
I haven't played Pokemon in almost a decade, the last being Soulsilver and the Fire Red.

Would I have a hard time trying to play these ROMs?

>>11447954
Emerald is pretty much the same generation as Fire Red.

I don't think you'll have a hard time playing it. Though some very young cousins of mine are playing emerald now, and they got stuck after the Rustboro gym, so do remember to go back to route 104 and visit the house of the old dude you helped in the Petalbur Woods.

>>11447986
Thank you. I'll try it now then.

>>11447986
HOW? Once you beat Roxanne you see a bad guy and beat him up and save the seagull thing. The game leads you around by the nose.

>>11447954
Play Emerald. You'll probably find the differences easier to manage if you're not that familiar with the originals. The main differences:
- Touhous are much cuter.
- Individual moves can be physical/special rather than it being determined by the move's type. This is also in the generation 4 games.
- New type chart.
- Most Touhous have alternate evolutions via using shards on them.

Fuck Yeah

Champion beaten, team in no way themed or connected.

Also, fuck Drake. I have no idea what types his Moemons are. Just attacking and hoping it won't be resisted.

>>11450983
Nice HM slave.

>>11451002
Someone's gotta do it. At least surf can still be usefull in battle.

Hehehehehehe...

>>11449340
It's not so hard to imagine, they probably skipped the text or didn't even notice Mr. Brinney's cottage on the way to Petalburg Woods.

>>11428827
Team of all sweepers, just with every types of attack.

What role do the Prismriver sisters have in battle? I'd like to add one but I don't want to train all three to find out.

>>11451919
lyrica: fast annoyer/supporter
lunasa: slow bulky supporter
merlin: special attacker with serene grace
layla: relatively fast special attacker

>>11451912
that's usually what all ingame teams are like, since you don't really need a lot of planning for ingame stuff

>>11451954
Would you say Merlin is OP ingame?

>>11451954

Lyrica can also get Sand Veil if that's your sort of thing.

>>11451963
she looks pretty good ingame but not broken, high spatk, decent coverage movepool, decent speed and acceptable ingame bulk that'll let her survive a hit or two while setting up if you're going to spam potions

far from broken though, but still usable

Is anyone else unable to use potions in the Touhoumon Emerald v1.812? I'm using the hard mode patch if that makes a difference.

>>11452034
what's hard about spamming potions in battle?

>>11451954
i thought "annoyers" died with growl slowbro back in gsc

and even that was just a really specific counter for last poke curselax

>>11452050
spamming potions in battle is no harder than grinding before the battle, but it is a lot less time consuming

>>11452051
i thought annoyers were just generally fast things that used stuff like taunt/encore/leech seed and couldn't do much else. lyrica falls under that category, since she can't boost her 90 satk, and her movepool is mostly used for support stuff.

>>11452065
hard doesn't change the level curve at all, it just removes spamming potions in battle and minmaxing your stats. it's a shitty hard mode but it's far better than just making everything level 100 with level 20 wilds.

>>11452081
how does hard mode remove minmaxing stats? why doesn't the documentation provided with the game go into any specifics about what is changed?

also, to counterargue a note made in the documentation: "Hard mode does not alter the level curve at all, so you have
no reason to grind any more than you normally would."

removing potion use in battle means I need to have more health to survive the same number of attacks which means more grinding is needed to level up my puppets and get more health

>>11452083
i was originally keeping the changes under wraps, but i guess it's been long enough that i should spill the beans in the text files. this is what i'm going to put in the archive file next build for hard info, probably prone to change: http://pastebin.com/5Th4Pidq

>removing potion use in battle means I need to have more health to survive the same number of attacks which means more grinding is needed to level up my puppets and get more health
if that's how you want to think i cant change it, but the intention was for people to actually accept it and have battle plans for what they'd do when something is fainted and can't just be brought back into play with a revive, not "wow i can't take this hit i guess i should just grind until i can" unless you're ~12 levels below something (which usually only happened with the league, which is why i lowered their levels a while back)

>>11452142
the 3rd gym was the only spot where I have run into an issue so far... it didn't seem like there were any puppets available with wind resistance that could learn moves that were super effective vs. T. Iku. If I started with a different puppet it would have been different...

I'd either need more puppets with neutral resistance to wind or to level up the puppets that I already had. given that the puppets I was able to encounter in the wild were about 8-12 levels under the gym leader's puppets, I decided I'd just level those that I already had.

>>11452142
You also said the X form Touhous could not be caught, was it an intentional ommission? And how does it manage that anyway?

>>11452197
that's actually something i forgot about, though i don't know if it's worth mentioning since you could just catch them on normal and go back to hard, and you can currently only really use them for steven anyway

the way it works though is their capture rate is set to 0, so all math related to it instantly sets the probability to 0 so it consistently fails to let the ball shake even once

>>11452206
Ooh I can imagine someone trying for hours "WHY CAN'T I CAPTURE THIS THING". Might be courteous to list it in the readme and/or make it more obviously impossible like when you try and capture the Pokémon Tower ghost.

>>11452216
I didn't even know there were X forms in Touhoumon 1.8. Guess I don't play postgame enough.

>>11452225
They replace the weather trio, and are obtainable in the same way as vanilla Emerald, so you can get Rayquaza (XTenshi) before the E4.

>>11434099
>>11434558
>>11450983
MVP? Come on guys when you post a championship team you have to post who the MVP was

>>11454652

I didn't even use my team or bother to cap it.

Patchy would always get off like 2-3 Nasty Plots and just swept all by herself.

>>11454694
Isn't Patchy rather slow? I would imagine that she would get killed eventually, especially if you are playing in hard mode without EVs that allow you to outspeed whatever the opponent has.

>>11454652
Attack Remilia did the most for >>11450983

Komachi did the least, beating only a single Touhou.

Can eggs hold items? I want to trade over some cute Touhous for my new team, but if possible at all I'd like to pass the appropriate evolution shards along as well.

>>11455953
I was always rather successful with Komachi. Pain Split is awesome for such a bulky attacker. Add some Surf/Sonicboom and you're set for everything but other water types.

The battle to determine the hottest Touhou can have no victor.

>>11456030
Woah, dude... that's seriously hot. But it would be much hotter if Okuu wasn't wearing so much bulky clothing. Something like SSUtsuho would be way too awesome in 1.8.

How do I make a Lily Black with Nasty Plot/Swords Dance/Baton Pass work? She only needs to survive one turn for the appropriate buff plus Speed Boost, but she's frail as fuck… I don't even want to attack, just boost the fuck out of one of my other cuties

>>11456163
Just look at this beauty. I'll probably give her Dark Pulse just to have an attack on her as well. With that, I'll have two Baton Passers on my team. Maybe that's a bit overkill... But the thought of ripping through shit with my Yuugi with Swords Dance and Speed Boost is just too good.

>>11456263
The sexualizing never ends.

>>11456263
That's a neat cheat you've got there, mind telling me what it is?

>>11456267
Give her a more respectable nickname.

>>11456263
calm? 30 speed? that thing will get ripped to shreds anywhere outside of generic trainers

>>11456343
i think its called rng reporter, there's a thread for rng abuse on the forums: thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=160.0

>>11456436
What are you saying, it has a base speed of 140. As long as it survives one turn, it's A-ok, which is why I opted for a defensive nature.

>>11456263
this overlay satisfies my autism

I forgot how much suffering Sanae has to go through at the start. 15 HP to 0 with a single crit.

>>11457249
Those damn Chen man, I tell you. Fragile as fuck, but then they come out and ninja-kill the living daylight out of one of your Touhou without a care in the world.

Personally, I believe that beasties are mainly prevalent in the first few areas of the game. Which means that Sanae gets better and better the longer she is in play. If only the Attack variants had the varied movepool of the normal evolution. That would've been awesome.

These hacks are still so popular after all these years? I remember playing this stuff back in 2008 in high school to pass the time.

>>11459022
It's easy fun for a few days. Turn on, catch some bitches, rape some others, explore the "tactical depth" the game has to offer. Then you come here and brag about your 2hu team, much like others brag about their figures.

>>11459022
Pokemon is pretty timeless, honestly.
It's been the same game for some time, but people still play it.

I played a long time ago, it's name is Touhoumon Blue Version ver 2 branch-39. It says it's from 2010, is there an updated version if I wanted to play again or should I just use this one?

>>11459156
Wasn't Blue the version that imported 1.8 sprites into 1.5? Because that screenshot doesn't look much like 1.8.

>>11459198
touhouwiki.net says that Blue is just 1.5. The site also says the only 1.8 versions are Touhou Puppet Play 1.8 Enhanced and Touhoumon Emerald 1.812, I'll download one of those I guess.

>>11459198
it updated to 1.8 sprites at some point, thats probably just a relatively old build

>>11459264
Do you by any chance know of a workaround for the disobeying Deoxys/Mew in FireRed?

Hey Agastya, make Victory Road skipable pls. I get there every time, but I just don't want to grind through it AGAIN. And then AGAIN next time.

>>11459352
copy/paste from nuzforum
>Open the ROM in a Hex Editor
>Go to offest 0x1d402, (Ctl-G)
>Edit the 92 to 00, this fixes Mew
>Go to offest 0x1d417
>Edit the 18 01 to 00 00, this fixes Deoxys

>>11459884
just for you i'm putting flash back in it and making rock smash mandatory again

>>11459976

Also include trainers that use full teams of Swagger Chens.

>>11459976
You're an ass, but I'm sure you know that.

>>11459976
Well damn, I tried this on a clean FR ROM as well. In both cases it only worked for the Mew slot, Deoxys were still disobedient. Also the Mew value starts as 97 (151) not 92. But thanks.

>>11460077
deoxys is near mew, a bit after it i believe
i think its value is 9A 01
i havent done this in a long time and i havent touched fire red so i cant really do much for you sadly, i apologize

>>11460053
well of course

>>11460082
That's fine, you have your own hack to worry about. Anyway I found a solution. Apparently pokemon-randomiser gets rid of that check, and what it does seems to work. I'll test it more thorougly later.

So what are the advantages of each Sanae form? I suppose I could figure it out, but I'd like to hear from someone who knows their shit.

>>11462521
Just look at the stats. The speed goes down from TSanae > ASanae > Sanae, while the attack goes up from Sanae < TSanae < ASanae (the bulk increases in the opposite direction). Each form also comes with a secondary typing to Faith, giving you varying amounts of new resists and weaknesses. Personally, I'm a fan of TSanae because her somewhat balanced sweeper stats and natural access to moves like Calm Mind and Wish. She reminds me a bit of Gardevoir, my favorite Pokemon.

ok so where do I dl th emerald version? preferably one that doesn't have to be patched.

I downloaded a rar full of touhoumon versions i saw on /jp/ a while back, but there is no emerald.

>>11463803
Nevermind!

jesus roxanne has like 25+ ivs on her entire team
no wonder she's so much fun

time to apply the overall difficulty increase to her as well

>>11462521
>>11463071
tsanae is really fun to use ingame

>>11463884
I think I'll try her out in my next run. Reisen is rather dull really. Doesn't help that she learns stuff so late. I like Alice's stat distribution a lot but she seems somewhat bland as well.

>>11463947
Yeah, Reisen really sucks for the first 30 levels. But then again, so does Sanae, because you have to keep her safe from 50% of the Touhou you encounter because of dem Beast attacks that will kill her really fast.

where is Remillia at?

>>11463884
>>11463071
That does it. Next run I'm using T-Sanae.

>>11464164

If you're playing Emerald use the locations text file.

If you're playing one of the FR ones she's usually in the Power Plant.

I love in-game bulky attackers and/or defenders with some teeth to them. It's more fun to trade blows then to sweep.
What are my options for this in 1.8?

>>11465692
Alice is your obvious choice for a starter. Off the top of my head defense Kaguya is cool. Some of eirin's forms as well though iirc she's only bulky on one side of the spectrum.

>>11465758
Eirin is one of my least favorite Touhous. I'm talking bottom five. Kaguya isn't all that much better.

>>11465782
Hrm. Defense/Advent Yukari fits the bill I think. Patchy dies swiftly to physical but has great sp def. Attack patch takes this even further. Reimu is pretty well rounded, if a bit slow. Shou is pretty bulky. Iku to a lesser extent. Satori's alright.

I dunno, go to a touhoudex and check out some stat spreads.