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>> No.11348809

>>11348788
sauce

>> No.11348827

>>11348809
Carcharias!- soganotojikowakataranai nikinoshou

>> No.11348837

>>11348827
that sounds like a mexican band

>> No.11348839

the only decent taoshit doujin out there

>> No.11348845

>>11348827
fuck you then

>> No.11348849
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>>11348839
I like saichiru

>> No.11348850

Can I found it on ExHentai?

>> No.11348862

>>11348839
> implying the lovey dovey Miko and Tojiko wasn't great

>> No.11348866
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>> No.11348879

>>11348862
I wish people stopped shipping miko with byakuren, she's already married!

>> No.11348896

>>11348850
http://exhentai.org/g/622474/dd1f46a0b2/

>> No.11348907

>>11348862
Which one?

>> No.11348919

That you for telling me about this, OP. A superb doujin indeed.
Are the rest of this artist's works of the same quality, I wonder?

>> No.11348923

>>11348919
No, this is the only good one.

>> No.11348934
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11348934

I really wish for more work with the taoists. There is almost nothing uploaded and most of the stuff that's uploaded isn't really all that great.

>> No.11348942

Cercis really does draw the best Miko.

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>> No.11348961
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>>11348942
What about this guy?

>> No.11348962

>>11348923
Not sure if serious.

>> No.11348965
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>>11348961
I mean, I love all Mikos, but i would be lying if I said Cercis' wasn't my favorite. You remember when Miko was confirmed for HM and Pixiv collectively lost their marbles over this image?

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>>11348965
No, I don't...

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>>11348976
Oh, hm, well it did happen I can assure you.

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>>11348980
I believe you.

>> No.11348994

>>11348961
I am so upset that his Miko/Byakuren comic proved to be a false start.

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>>11348942
Indeed!. And such a lovely Seiga too!. Such romantic, tired and melancholic eyes. Mokku draws a pretty cute one as well.

Anyways,
Seiga-sama!, use my body as you please!
Even after my body has rotten away, please take good care of me!

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>>11349026
Does mokku draw seiga or miko? There was a cute c84 with the usual yuuka and the unusual akyuu, but I hadn't seen any TD from him.

>> No.11349105

Taishi should be translated into Prince

>> No.11349141

>>11349105
Nah Taishi sounds cooler and you can make Taishi-sama out of it for Futo to excitedly shout.

>> No.11349307

Really nice doujin, I half expected it to get lewd but I was pleasantly surprised.

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>>11349317
Please don't

>> No.11349328

>>11349317
I'd like this chibi naked Miko to be turned into a meme.

>> No.11349330

>>11348862
Seriously which one?

>> No.11349368

>>11349330
Probably this.
http://exhentai.org/g/600169/e1488fedba/

>> No.11349369

>>11349328
What's a meme? Some kind of enemy from a fangame?

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>>11349368
>>11348862
Why is Futo always left out?

>> No.11349373
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>>11349368
I don't like Miko being so short. Also, lots of legs.

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>>11349373
Agreed, short Miko is no good. Tall, leggy, Miko is fine though.

>> No.11349391

>>11349383
Why does she have two sheaths?

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>>11349391
I think the brown one is supposed to be her baton thing.

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Poor Rath.

Miko is a monster hunter.

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>>11349401
lewd

>> No.11349410
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>>11349373
Agreed.

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Sleepy crown prince.

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>>11349317
I love how Miko is naked the entire doujin but the most lovingly drawn hindquarters in the whole thing belong to Rinnosuke

>> No.11349460
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How would Miko feel about a male lover?

>> No.11349464

>>11349368
Ah thank you, but I'll read it when it's not done by you-know-who.

>> No.11349536

>>11349460
but Miko is a guy!
just think about it how would you feel if you were once a powerful man then get turned into a pretty girl and people started having lewd though of you.

>> No.11349599

>>11349536
Well, that depends on what kind of man he was. If he doesn't mind being a woman (and if he changed into a woman in the first place), there has to be a reason for it. Maybe he really wasn't very manly.

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>>11349536
>just think about it how would you feel if you were once a powerful man then get turned into a pretty girl and people started having lewd though of you.

I'm reasonably positive that 95% of /jp/ would kill for this to happen to them.

>> No.11349624

>>11349615
Miko is the /jp/ dream made manifest.

- Got into Gensokyo.
- Became the little girl.

>> No.11349625

>>11349401
Is he/she fighting monsters with his mustache?
How fucking manly that its

>> No.11349650

>>11349536
Miko follows Seibah's case. Concealing gender to rule shit.

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Im still waiting for a touhou version of sengoku rance, with Miko fucking every woman in gensokyo and making them her followers.

>> No.11349663

>>11349658
I remember this idea floating around in almost every Miko thread. If it's so prevalent then why haven't any doujinsoft groups came up with it.

>> No.11349664

>>11349658
it's already been done.

was shit.

>> No.11349679

>>11349105
Why? It doesn't mean Prince. Shoutoku Taishi carried that title even as a ruler.

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>>11348934
This is why you buy doujinshi.
I kinda wish I had a decent scanner. Can't afford it though! I have to buy doujinshi.

>> No.11349698

>>11349679
I just think Prince Shotoku would be more easier to understand.

>> No.11349700

>>11348994
It was ok. I can't ship Miko wholehearted with anyone because I could never see her committing to a relationship, but it's really interesting to see her relationship with Byakuren explored beyond just them hating each others' guts. I want more of that.

>> No.11349709

>>11349663
There are barely any games with TD cast, and those are touhoumon and the likes, so to have a game with Miko as the protagonist its just a dream. I would have been so happy if she or Futo had appeared in LoT2

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>>11349700
Not even Reimu?

>> No.11349714

>>11349698
Emperor Shoutoku then? Wordings like "your highness" or "your excellence", are nice and vague but I'm still not sure if I'd use them myself.

>> No.11349717

>>11349686
It'd be courteous not to post your collection.

>> No.11349725

>>11349686
I'm mad jelly over here.

>> No.11349734

>>11349710
No? Miko could never value anyone or anything above herself. That's part of what makes her interesting.

Futo and Miko together is my least favourite, because Miko used her in the past. Futo seems easily influenced by her, makes for an abusive relationship that leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. As for lovely-dovely Miko and Tojiko, it's cute but I don't buy it.

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>>11349717
>>11349725
That's just my Reitaisai TD loot. I really wish I could share some with you guys. I'm sorry. Maybe someday...

>> No.11349917

>>11349371
Because Miko's already married.

>>11349700
Wasn't Shoutoku married to multiple women, or at least had multiple consorts?

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>> No.11349998

>>11349917
He was. So polygamy's obviously not alien to Miko. The question is, who is Futo supposed to be? Not one of his wives?

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>> No.11350298

>>11349998
Either Tojiko's mother in law or one asshole from the Mononobe clan who burned a lot temples, i dont remember their names

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>>11350298
Futo for mazacon thread!

>> No.11350357

>>11349998
Futo appears to be mostly based on Mononobe no Moriya, who was Shoutoku Taishi's right hand/closest associate. They were even buried together just like in TD; the mausoleum you see in the backgrounds exists in real life. The name Futo however seems to be taken from Futohime, who was another Mononobe clan member and Moriya's sister. She married Soga no Umako, who incidentally seems to be the biggest influence of Tojiko's character; her personality and her powers seem to be inspired by him. Her first name comes from his daughter through; Tojiko no Iratsume. She was, in turn the wife of Shoutoku Taishi.

>> No.11350359

>>11350298
Knowing ZUN, it may be a fusion.

>> No.11350365

>>11350357
OK, but what does that MEAN?

>> No.11350376

>>11350365
Not sure what you mean.
I guess it means Futo and Tojiko are more based around their clans as a whole unlike Miko who is based on a single person?

>> No.11350387

>>11350348

no, don't. those faggots ruin everything they touch.

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>>11350376
Does that mean I want to put my penis in the entire Mononobe clan?

But there are guys in there!

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>>11350393
Futo looks like a boy anyways.

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>>11350403
You take that back! Futo is a pretty girl!

>> No.11350411

>>11350365
It means Japan won't stop portraying their relationship as a love triangle with Tojiko in the middle any time soon. I suppose.

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>>11350405
You can look like a boy and be pretty, too.

>> No.11350601

>>11350403
why is futo the most sexualized TD?

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>>11350601
Because legs. Also, Seiga gets lots of lewd too

>> No.11350621
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>>11350601
Legs, youth, and naivety.

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>>11350601
Cos she's simply the best. Better than all the rest.

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>>11350622
What!? No, no, the crown prince is better!

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>>11350625
Better than anyone!

>> No.11350638

>>11350466
>thumbnail
>pregnant

>> No.11350639

>>11350638
Boys can't get pregnant, silly!


... Right?

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>>11350629
Futo's right behind her, though.

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>>11349057
I have this one.

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>>11350654
Anyone I've ever met!

Ooh, I'm stuck on your heart!

>> No.11350710

>>11350639
They can. Simply insert the fertilized egg into their innards and the damn thing will latch on to them and grow.

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See this? This is why Futo is awesome.

>> No.11350749

>>11350710
That sounds scary.

>> No.11350788

>>11350737
>Futo
>using the respectful address form of "you"
>in reference to someone she thinks a youkai
Immersion = ruined.

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>>11350710
>>11350749

>> No.11350817

>>11350788
She only just found out Alice was a youkai. Maybe she's confused?

>> No.11350918

>>11350788
She recently found out about the human-magician, youkai-magician, and human-turned-youkai-magician dynamic, and momentarily commented on how the latter is hermit-like.

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>>11348788
I haven't really followed the thread, I haven't read a Touhou doujinshi in a long time because I find it difficult to figure out where to start, and I don't know a single thing about Taoism, but after reading that doujinshi, I kinda feel warm inside.

I just wanted to say that this is why I really like Touhou; not because of the games, but because of some of the heart-touching works some circles produce. Thanks!

>> No.11351027

>>11350737
I started reading this doujin, then got weirdly bugged out due to AliMu.

It's one of those pairings I find hard to understand.

>> No.11351037

>>11351027
ReiAli was big in the year after PCB, before IN made everybody ship MariAli instead.

>> No.11351228

>>11351027
I didn't really care about that, I was there for Futo. She steals the show anyway.

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>>11348788
>>11348827
>>11348896

Read this comic. It started out so good, and then it just turned to a bunch of hard-to-follow political shit and seemed sad and melodramatic.

I hate it when this happens. Either do comedy or don't. I am mad, bro.

At least I got a good picture of Sanae, even if the artist is implying she's a 豚乙女

>> No.11354486

>>11354481
Well I liked it. Was still funny even when the plot started.

>They are often pigs with eyes full of curiosity.
Rude! Very rude!

>> No.11354498

>>11354481
ignore that shit, this was exclusively made to appreciate Tojiko

>> No.11354512

>>11354481
You're not going to like the next one then.
http://www.mediafire.com/?2td59n0l8k2wxib

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>>11354486
>>11354481
>They are often pigs with eyes full of curiosity

Keep in mind, that's from Tojiko's perspective. The perspective of a confirmed gangster.

>> No.11354538

>>11354481
but that's the best part

>> No.11354540

>>11348827
http://voile.gensokyo.org/res/53202.html

Here is the almost translated version. Don't know where the finished one is

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>>11354498
Tojiko is great.
>>11354540
It's on ExHentai.

>> No.11354551

>>11348788
so that's how the stable door prince became a 2hu

>> No.11354585

>>11354546

that picture is sweet as HELL

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>>11354512

Finally got around to reading this, and goddamn can I not wait for Volume 3. Poor Tojiko.

Also it's a very refreshing change of pace to see a Futo that's not a total moron.

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>> No.11355899

>>11354512
That was excellent. Waiting with bated breath for the sequel.
Please tell me translation is already underway.

I love how serious the story is while still getting some silliness in here and there.

>> No.11355944

I have all parts in this series released so far except the c84 part. I enjoy it alright but well. Prepare for lots of drama. It's also kinda far fetched for a backstory. I see it more like an AU of some kind.

You have to give it the artist and the writer for being so ambitious though.

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>>11355944

Are there pre-C84 parts other than the two linked in this thread?

>> No.11356311

>>11354513
>Keep in mind, that's from Tojiko's perspective. The perspective of a confirmed gangster.
This makes her even more erotic in my eyes

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>> No.11356672

>>11356233
I think they should be on voile. I have mine purchased so I haven't really checked.

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>>11356233
there is the side story with futo and miko which is being translated rn but only the manga part. my life for someone to do the novel section..
>>11355944
i found the entire setting really... interesting, maybe because im a historyfag
..and arent all backstories technically AUs anyway

>> No.11357233

>>11357179
>..and arent all backstories technically AUs anyway
I guess that depends on how you see it. It bothers me slightly though that this story indeed seems to be more based on Japanese history than Touhou canon. I mean TD is obviously based on real historical events but that doesn't mean they're one and the same.

I also think it was kinda dumb to conceive and start working on such an elaborate backstory just before SoPM was released, which would make their facts outdated pretty much right away.

>> No.11357260

>>11357233
Ten Desires is just Asuka period fanfiction.

There's nothing stopping other people from doing more of the same.

>> No.11357277

>>11357260
Yeah, basically. But if you're not gonna stick to Touhou canon what's stopping you from making your own original works? But no point in arguing about that, as long as people are having fun.

>> No.11357280

>>11357277
Like, 5% of Touhou Project parody fanbooks stick to canon.

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wat

>> No.11357347

>>11357280
Good point, but I think when doing a backstory sticking to canon is pretty key because the whole plot of the story is to tell how these characters became who they are today. But of course, stories are also meant to entertain above all else. Each to their own how they prefer their stories. Personally I think the more canon influence the better but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate more freely depicted fanworks at all. It's all case-by-case.

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>>11354513
Gangster Tojiko is the best. I don't like it when they write her as speaking standard or feminine Japanese. She's polite addressing Miko but that's it.

>> No.11357432

why there aren't more doujins like this

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>> No.11357437 [DELETED] 

>>11357432
Because Cis female so she doesn't have to check her privilege.

>> No.11357438

>>11357437
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

>> No.11357442

>>11357438
Maybe you should check your cis privilege.

>> No.11357443

>>11357442
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

>> No.11357453

>>11357443
You're raping me with those questions.

>> No.11357483

why ;_;

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>>11357453
Oh no!

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>>11348965

It was only a few hours after the first image of HM Miko and i was browsing pixv when i saw that pic and i was like : Holy fucking shit how is that possible?
I guess she did the background before that but it is still impresive.

This one is nice too

>> No.11358315

>>11357483
she lives

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>>11348965
have you seen cis's 1hour drawings the god works fast aah ;_;
>>11358004
is there confirmation what gender cis is (no cisgender jokes pls) because the askfm and twitter makes me think cis is female but my friends think otherwise-

>> No.11360492

>>11360251
No male artist pays such attention to eyelashes and brows.

>> No.11360505

How far along is the third part of Cis's Tojiko series? Voile is a mess. Could someone with a basic idea please share with me the status?

>> No.11360508

>>11360251
What part is this from and where is it translated?

>> No.11360509

>>11360508
I'm guessing this, though I dunno how it fits into the whole thing: http://voile.gensokyo.org/res/55259.html

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>>11360251
Cercis is a she, and that was a surprise to me considering how fucking lewd some of her work is. Furry, rape, defloration, etc...

Her doujins of the moriyas and the buddhist are gold, now she is in a more serious mood with the taohous.

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>>11360509
Its a prequel. Its about when Futo married Tojiko's father.

>> No.11360724

>>11360723
Are you from FMNL? When are you guys going to release it?

>> No.11360851

>>11360724

>Are you from FMNL?

Nope, sorry

>> No.11361177

>>11360720
I was excited that I heard she done some lewd work but I went to exhentai it doesn't look like she doe any porn doujins

>> No.11361199

>>11361177
http://mktnfox.tumblr.com/

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>>11361199
This is horrible.

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>>11360724
soon, its half? done.. or 1/4 if you count the novel that i hope someone will translate ;_;

also i might as well ask, what do people think of having futo's dialogue in archaic english? yes/no/? like you have the game script in archaic but its not prevalent in other translations...

>> No.11363634

>>11363611
That would be neat, but it should stay consistent with the other books.

>> No.11363638

>>11363611
Post examples.

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>>11363634
right now its planned to have 2 separate versions, one with archaic and one with modern english
>>11363638
of?

>> No.11363688

>>11363680
That archaic speech.

>> No.11363831

>>11363688
He means something like >>11350737, I think.

>> No.11364010

>>11363611
Translation convention. No. It happens in a time when such language is contemporary, right? Then translate it into regular contemporary English.
You probably don't know enough about Middle/Old English to do it, and even if you do, it'd be a lot of needless work.

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>>11364010
ah i see.. got the whole script(futo's part) already done in archaic tho. lol

anyway have a comparison and another http://puu.sh/4f6TH.jpg

>> No.11364352

>>11364220
>didst
>thou/you confusion
>wouldst thee
>ye
Yeah, don't do it. Unless you don't give a shit about accuracy and just think it sounds cool this way. Most of the readers will probably not realize your mistakes anyhow. They WILL, however, very likely find the faux-archaism disturbing to the overall reading experience, as it creates a sense of discord with the other characters' speech.

So yeah, I'm still saying you'd best stick to regular contemporary English. But, in the end, it's your call. Don't let me ruin your fun.

>> No.11364361

>>11364352
>>11364220
Also, it's "mourning", not "morning". Hope you have QCs somewhere down the line.

>> No.11364390

well that was a long thread to read, It seems taohous aren't so bad

>> No.11364514

>>11364220
>decieve

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