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Why the fuck does Yuka have better base attack and attack scaling than base magic and magic scaling? She doesn't use attack for anything.

Does anyone have the patch notes for the latest patch?

>>11323933
Everything is on the official website.
http://www.geocities.jp/aaa_3peso/THL2/top.htm

Is it worth spending all my money on stat upgrades or should I rather buy equipment from Nitori?

So what are the options in the options menu?

BGM, Sound, and that fucking bloom filter off/on.
But i have absolutely no idea what the last three numbers that default to 80, 10 and 5 are. Changing them doesn't seem to really affect anything.

Can you play this game in full screen?

Also Kogasa, her attacks are all elemental, but it says she's a physical attacker.

should I increase Magic or Attack?

>>11324108
Attack because she's a physical attacker

>>11323985
If you have that bloom filter off the 80 and 10 settings won't affect you since it's just used for that ugly filter and no one should be using it. The bottom is for the text display speed.

>>11324110
Ah okay, I wasn't sure if elemental assumed magic, since theres spellcards which do "physical".

yo man how do i make Mokou show up on the 4th floor? i'm at floor 6 now and havent seen it at all

>>11324304
You have to defeat Kaguya on 2F then talk to Reisen on 3F.

>>11324345
Yo thanks a lot man

Where can you find Leaves of the Great Tree? I have two, I think.

>>11324480
Any plant looking monster (forest fairy, walking unripe fruit, stumps, nuts, etc) on 2F drops those.

>>11324500
Thanks.

>>11324480
There's a place on the third floor where you can find two of them as treasure I think.

>>11324500
>>11324511
How is it written, by the way?

>>11324516
大樹の葉っぱ

About Marisa's 主人公補正 skill, why am I not gaining stat ups? The mp regen is definitely there, but I'm not seeing any stat boosts nor a special skill indication.

Is it okay to run allies to 0 TP?
Do they stop getting EXP if they get sent back or should I try to leave them at 1 and just put them in reserve?

>>11325081
iirc they get:
100% frontline
90% backline
80% SDM
in LoT1.
I don't think it really matters much, since if you run everyone to 0 you grind them about equally.

Any advice on fighting Kaguya? I'm sure some of these items give buffs, but I can't read what they do.

>>11325152
They show what they do when you try putting them on.

>>11325156
Some of the ones like Accuracy or Evasion don't show immediately, also the HP and MP regen equips.

>>11325152
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Labyrinth_of_Touhou_2

This has a lot of the equipment translated, although the order is kind of off.

In-game it goes:
1 2
3 4
5 6

But on their list its:
1
2
3
4

So can you make Chen, Mystia, and Momiji into Healers and have them switch between each other for effectively a 100% free heal?

>>11325162
Also some of these item names, so many references.
>Manga Meat
>Power Wrist
>Ribbon
>Heart Fragment
>Energy Tank
>Booster v0.8
>Chargin' Targe (seriously?)
>T-45d Power Armor
>Luster Candy
>Scouter
>Lilium's Panties

>>11325169
If you call wasting two turns "free"

What is this?

>>11325180
Mind, it's your magic defense.

>>11325188
Okay, thank you.

>>11325171
Instant Attack makes them come into the field with 1000ATB; it's as much of a wasted turn as a formation change.

Stuck behind a bush on 8F that's preventing me from getting to the boss. How do I get rid of it?

>>11325399
Find the second staircase on that floor that leads down to Floor 7, should be something there.

Will this ever be translated? While it looks playable even without translations, I would like to know what I'm doing and what's going on in the game.

>>11325622
It will. The game is popular enough to warrant a translation.

Wiki is still missing translations for special items and I really need to know what they do before I even consume them.

Where in the items can you find the Stone of Awakening or Jewel of Greater Awakening in the items menu and what are the japanese characters?

http://www.mediafire.com/view/71t4ugmcybhio66/Items.xlsx

For all your item translation needs for the moment.

What is people's thoughts on Enhancer Ran? On paper it seems like an excellent way to go, but has anyone tested/know if the Enhancer's heal on buff or increased buff skills effect reserves?

>>11325894
You magnificent bastard.

>>11325920
They indeed affect reserves, the effect is halved as with the normal effect though. I'd be rolling this if I had more stones, but I've only found a total of 10.

In other news, the (get 12/36 items in one trip) achievements work now thanks to the new patch. Pic related.

>>11325936
>Comic sans
I have nothing autistic against, but you can at least be loyal to Touhou and use something like Cirno.ttf or something that fits thestyle.

>>11325946
Yes, the issues with the images have been brought up. Someone has volunteered to clean the bad ones. Now I just need someone else to typeset them. Preferably without using comic sans or cirno.

So about the skills I see on the wiki. Where do I upgrade them or they're just passive and level on their own?

If only I could fucking read ANY of this shit, I might actually play this goddamn fucking game because I love this kind of shit. But I can't read any of these goddamn fucking moonrunes.

>>11326001
Read the wiki: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Labyrinth_of_Touhou_2
And: >>11325894

Changenotes 1.300:
-Fixed some skills
-Fixed some equips
-Fixed the bug where if the front was empty and the enemy used "Fear Eater"(恐怖喰い) the game would crash
-Fixed the bug where the number of philosopher's stones would become 0
-Fixed the effect of "Gate guard wants to rest sometimes"(たまには休みたい門番)
-Fixed the effect of "Curse return"(厄反転)
-Fixed the bug where defeating the FOE on 15F would open holes on the map
-Fixed the bug where when you defeat a boss that summons unique enemies and you defeat him without summoning those enemies, they would not appear in the enemy list
-Lowered some event requirements
-Fixed the bug where achievments 60, 61, 86, 87 would not unlock
-Fixed the bug where if due to a group attack more than one counter activated the counter would continue endlessly
-Slightly lowered lategame boss' stats
-Abolished the system where unassigned skill points slightly increased stats
-Increased some (about 10) characters' stats
-Added "Cut effects in dungeons"(ダンジョン内のエフェクトをカットする) to options
-Added an average party level display to the camp menu
When you have more than 12 characters available but use empty slots, then those slots are calculated as being lv0 and decrease the average
-Fixed the achievment's "All too eager"(やる気十分) information to show "Energy Sphere*3"(活力の玉) instead of "Energy Sphere*1"
If you already unlocked it you will gain two Energy Spheres next time you start the game
-Fixed some more stuff

;_; OH MY GOD WHERE DID REIMU GO SHE JUST SAID SOMETHING ABOUT TP AND THEN DISAPPEARED AND I ACCIDENTALLY WALKED INTO LEVEL 4'S WHY AREN'T I STREAMING THIS FOR YOU ALL TO LAUGH AT ME OH MY GOD.

>>11326099
When a character runs out of TP, they return to gensokyo. They are not lost - if you return to Gensokyo from the menu, all of your characters will be present with full HP, SP, and TP.

TP is a mechanic for limiting your exploration. It goes down with every battle, moreso if a character is damaged, and a lot more if they are defeated in battle. Eventually you won't have enough characters to explore and will be forced to return to Gensokyo.

>>11326099
What the hell are you on?

>>11326110
I DON'T KNOW BUT EVERYBODY BUT TENSHI IS GONE AND nowthatIunderstandthewholeTPmechanicitisn'tsobad BUT I CAN'T READ ANY OF THIS SHIT

>>11326120
When you're in the village, scroll all the way to the bottom when you're team building.

>>11326120
>having Tenshi without getting hang of the mechanics
Am I being 'rused'?

>>11326186
;_; I have barely learned what each of the colors do. Accidentally learned how to spend like ten dollars/gil/zenny/money on stats, and am just going to resort to walking back and forth between two spaces on the map at the start of the first floor to grind because bees and trees end up destroying me, and Rinnosuke is a shitty healer.

>>11326229
Maaaybe you should use this.

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Labyrinth_of_Touhou_2/Gameplay

>>11326225
You aren't, but, I lied, I forgot the name of this bitch, just that I assumed that her blue hair meant she was Tenshi so my apologies.

>>11326240
I'm using everything I can find. I'm just bad at this already. If it weren't for the fact that I run the floor screen at 20-25 FPS and my computer isn't maximum power, I'd have you guys laugh at me.

>>11326225
Maybe he's confusing her with Keine

>>11326081
>-Added "Cut effects in dungeons"(ダンジョン内のエフェクトをカットする) to options

They sure know how to listen to feedback.

>>11326246
Yes it was Keine and hurray! LoT2 managed to push my computer to BSoD point.

So I died like 12 times and Kasen appeared but it seems I can't put her in my party. She still gains levels though when leveling up in the shrine.

>>11326345
See
>>11326186

Yo, I agree with the last OP, how the hell do you do damage to this thing? I don't want to sit here for hours doing 1 hp at a time.

>>11326438
Stack magic on Marisa, buff her in-battle, use Master Spark. That's pretty much it. It doesn't have that much hp.

>>11326438
Kogasa's 4-cost ability lowers mind. With this, Marisa can deal decent damage with Magic Missile.

>>11326438
Honestly I just ended up one-shotting it with a Marisa's Master Spark in the first turn. I stacked Marisa's Magic a bit, don't know by how much specifically though.

>>11326438
Two Master Sparks and then a little more should bring it down. Use Rinnosuke to buff her every turn as well.

My problem right now is the tree FOE on floor 7. That thing is way harder than the FOE on F8.

Can you equip items outside of the dungeon?

What role does Suwako play now? Doesn't look like she has her old Croaking Frog Eaten by the Snake nuke so is she even worth taking to a boss fight? From the skill 'Ability to create Earth', she's supposed to be a EVA tank with good damage, but I just don't know.

>>11326438
Like everyone said use Kogasa for the Mind reducing skill, Marisa for her higher magic damage and I'll add use Rumia with 2 Levels in the Piercing Attack skill.

Rumia does a shitton of damage against bosses in general

>>11326462
>>11326446
>>11326473

My Marisa's MP is is 23 but I gave her an item that increases it to 26, but I don't have any items that increase it more. Do buffs increase MP?

>>11326475
Yes, the only thing you can't do in the tree is assign skill points.

>>11326507
Leveling up gives a part of one point. I put a point into the MP Boost to get her to 27 myself.

How do I change the fonts used in this game?

>>11326507
every 15 levels you gain an mp i think

>>11326507
She has a skill that increases her max mp. And no, buffs don't increase mp.

Anyone ever figure out what this Minoriko event on floor 10 does; and how to get it?

>>11326557
Needs a ton of Minoriko and I believe Nitori's BP. That or its Cirno, I can't remember.

>>11326603
What's odd is that I've had Minoriko in my party since Floor 2 and Nitori since 4, and I don't have enough BP with then? A 'ton' doesn't even begin to describe how much I need apparently.

>>11326624
They have to be on the front line either at the start or the end of a battle to receive some BP.

Any advice on fighting Komachi? The wiki says you're supposed to use Youmu as a shield.

What happened here? I tried to reset Reimu, answered yes to the "are you sure?" as usual, then this second message popped up. Even though I said no, Reimu still got her level up bonuses and skills reset, so I don't know what's going on.
Is this like in EO, where you can reset for free at first, but then you lose levels (or need to pay something) whenever you do it again?

A question on the bestiary update. Let's assume I 1shot Alice and never saw her summons, so they never got into my bestiary. By patching after beating her, would those show up in the bestiary? Would totally suck if they didn't as I'd be locked out of the full bestiary achievement.

>>11326744
Second message asks you if you want to use a Tome of Reincarnation (転生の書物) to reset all money spent on that character on Voile.

>>11326725
Don't do that, use Rinnosuke instead. Youmu was my main damage dealer in that fight. Make sure to switch in cirno often for the free speed debuffs, as having the chance of instant death come ever slower is a great thing to have in the fight.

>>11326787
Youmu can still do damage on the left-most spot, and she is extremely resistant to death. For the rest of your important characters, you should have some sub gear by now that increases death resistance.

>>11326818
Youmu is nowhere near as bulky as rinnosuke is innately, with some equips he can become immune to death, and he has nothing better to do than to buff/switch anyway. You might as well put him in the leftmost spot.

>>11326743
If the patch doesn't work, wait until they add the post-game stuff. From what I gather from the achievements, you can do a new game+ and get the ones you missed then.

>>11326518
Forgive me for being a total noob but where do you upgrade skills? I see the skills on the wiki but I don't have any idea where you place skill points

>>11326887
Press x when in field or town and choose the option on the bottom row, second from the left.

This picture is such a pain.

>>11326902
Keep up the good work

>>11326624
It's probably around 300 BP for both, I have no idea for sure but I know that I needed to grind up Nitori despite already doing the Nazrin event with her earlier and that needed 200 BP.
So stick them both on the front line for 150 or so battles.

>>11326901
Another dumb question. Can you reset skill points somewhere?

>>11326930
In Patchy's library, the second option I believe it is. The first Y/N is just "Are you sure?" The second one will pop up only if you have a tome of reincarnation and it's asking to reset all the points you spent in the magic library and refund the gold.

When you reset skill points like this, it also resets their level, so make sure to re-level them at the shrine again.

Okay. Super preliminary menu patch.

http://www.mediafire.com/?8dsdihi8n7hdcaq

This is for version 1.120. This does not include ANY of the 1.130 fixes, and I recommend backing up your saves if you've already updated to 1.130 and saved since then. I doubt there will be any problems, but better safe than sorry.

This should translate most of the essential menu text, i.e. what you see in Gensokyo and in battles. One item is translated, a few monster names, and the first 3 lines of dialogue are done just so I can see how they look. I'll do item names for the full thing, but that's it.

Stuff I know is missing:
Level down message.
Descriptions and menu text for the bestiary and achievements.
I think some status effect messages.
All of the "Select floor to enter" menu items.

If there's stuff you definitely want to see in the menu patch, post it and I'll ask to have it translated. Nothing super complicated or superflous (no dialogue, no floor titles, item or spell descriptions, etc.

Now to work on updating the translations to work with the new patch...

Getting this to trigger is literally cancerous. Has Japan figured out the requirements for Flan yet?

>>11327005
Thanks a lot! I'd like to see more items translated, or status messages, if that's okay.

>>11327016
Nearly the same as the first game, asstons of Remilia/Sakuya/Patchy/Meiling BP.

>>11327061

Define 'asstons', since I'm pretty sure I've already gotten what I consider to be asstons of BP on those four.

>>11327070
If I had one wish, It'd be for a BP counter on each character.

Does anyone know how to view this help image? I can't find it in game.

>>11327114
Go into status, select a char, press A

>>11327122
Oh, huh. Never knew about that. Thanks.

What is BP? I keep seeing it as a requirement for getting Ran and triggering events. Is there a way for me to check how much BP each char has?

>>11327140
Battle points. Every character out at the end of a battle gets 2, every character who participated but isn't in front gets 1.

>>11327166
Crap, all this time I thought they were the points from Patchy's library, and haven't used Chen all the way to 17F. Sucks.

>>11327114
I don't like that image's description of Affinities or Status since it really doesn't say much at all.

For each point of Affinity past 0, you basically gain 1% more effective HP against the respective element. Hence why Affinities on Komachi are so important, because she can take the most advantage of them.

Each point of Status resistance means a 1% less chance of being affected by a Status, and if you are, that effect will last 1% less time. 100% grants immunity.

>>11327200
Looks like it's time to grind with Chen on 1F, or wait until just before the final boss on 20F since it's actually beneficial to grind there.
You may as well throw in Nitori, Minoriko and Nazrin as well, since they all have fairly high BP requirements for other characters.

>>11327204
>For each point of Affinity past 0, you basically gain 1% more effective HP against the respective element.
Erm, did it change since LoT1?

Same with status resistance. Is it only 1% resistance now? It used to be 3.

Well, I'm about to start grinding BP for Flan and I'm going to keep track of how many fights I spend with Remilia, Patchouli, Sakuya and Meiling on the front line since I haven't used any of them at all.
Should I use 20TP as my lowest for this since I'm going to check the Flan event every time I run out?

>>11327204
>For each point of Affinity past 0, you basically gain 1% more effective HP against the respective element.

I can tell you that in LoT1 it was an exponential decay for increasing resistances. 200 of a resistance was half damage, 400 was 1/4th, and so on.

Uh so I got stuck at the leaf pile on 3F as well. What now? I think I've done everything I can so far, other than a few events with Wriggle, Mystia and this one on 3F that's on a dead end. There's also that level 32 boss, but I don't think I can do much against it.

>>11327234
Fight the level 32 boss, it's a special fight.

>>11327237
>>11327234
That's one thing I really DON'T like about the level tips.

Am I going to have to deal with this for the next 3 floors?

>>11327249
Update to 1.130, I'm pretty sure they added an option to turn off those effects.

>>11327244
I actually went there for teh lolz since most of my characters are in Gensokyo due to running out of TP.
>mfw 2 unexpected characters came out

>>11327221
Pretty sure Affinities are the same, resistances work on 1% now. Makes it look nicer I suppose.

>>11327233
Both your and my explanations are correct. You can actually prove it either way incidentally. I just always figured the 1% health was easier for most people to understand.

for "Key Items" or "Special items",

does this refer to key items in the final fantasy sense, e.g. Lenna's Pendant or the fish Celes catches, or special items for permanently raising stats?

>>11327225
Just takes how many battles you are in, times 8 - and that's approximately how many BP you need. I'd personally do it at every 50ish BP interval.

>>11327269

Shrug. Hard to say with this group of people; my experiences with explaining the concept of effective HP to people in the past haven't gone so well, but in this case I always figured that telling people that the next important "milestone" for damage reduction was just double the value for the previous one was easy enough to understand. For the ingame image though, what it has written there is enough for players to understand. After all, the main point to grasp from that blurb is that being above 100 weakens the element and being below 100 amplifies it.

>>11327282
They refer to both.　If you look at the items in that category both shrine/held special items and key items needed for recruiting/advancing the stage are in there.

>>11327286
I ended up just doing it every 20 battles since I could get TP there, currently at roughly 58 battles done since I messed up the first run and didn't notice that Remi was unable to oneshot one of the enemies on 20F with a normal attack, I'll even up the numbers before I check in with Flan's event next time.

Also, for anyone that has gotten Flan, out of curiousity, did you ever use Okuu? Flan's event shows her which leads me to believe you also need her BP up, which I can't track properly since I have already used her quite a bit to get Yuuka.

>>11327237
Well that was interesting.

Managed to take down Komachi without much trouble, with Rinnosuke tanking and bringing Minoriko in whenever he needed a heal. The fight got a bit more hectic once Komachi used her every single status effect including death move, but everything went okay. Sadly, Parsee wasn't too useful (even with everyone being debuffed everywhere), but Rumia was a cute little unbuffed nuke and Kogasa got a really useful stun near the end. This thing about having a party of 12 is more fun than I expected, although now that I have more than 12 I'm having trouble deciding who should stay in the party.

>>11327363

After /jp/'s help, I did much better. Parsee was my lifesaver though.

>>11327416
Do you have Sanae?

>>11327005
Vote Manga Meat for most annoying item 2013. And thanks. Anyway, does anyone know how to recruit Kanako/Suwako? The wiki says beat the FOEs at 10F and then talk to one of them, but I can't find them anywhere in the floor they should be.

>>11327416
They should be on one side of the FOE, one in the northwest half of the map and one in the southeast, I'm pretty sure you end up passing their event tile before you get to the FOE.

How's the music in this series? GoS and DoD have great music but I've never given LoT a try.

>>11327422
You can't miss the event though, because the moment you take the teleporter to either sector of the map, there event is not more than 5 tiles away from where you end up.

>>11327419
No.

Preliminary menu patch updated to use 1.130. (Previous link deleted)

http://www.mediafire.com/?q5ul571cp0yoxr3

I'll post the real menu patch when everything is ready. Again, it won't include everything. I'm thinking just the gensokyo/battle stuff and all the item names.

Let me know if there's important battle/gensokyo stuff that isn't included, or any inconsistencies (e.g. I just noticed that Aya can raise "AGI"). I want the translation to be consistent with LoT1 whenever possible, with regards to things like stat/status names. Suggestions on the translations are also welcomed.

>>11326902
So are you typesetting too now, or is that just to avoid cleaning the entire image?

Either way, let me know when you're done, and I'll include a new image set. I got a bunch of comments on the translations from a guy on IRC as well.

So i just got EoSD, and I'm curious as to what difficulty i should play.
I've never played any other bullet hell type games, and I'm absolutely shit at shmups in general.

That's why I'm thinking of starting out on Lunatic

>>11327451
Can you make Rumia say "BRING ME 2 MANGA MEAT. NITORI'S SHOP."?

>>11327458
Wrong thread

>>11327465
Oh dear, for some reason I assumed that was just a witty title for a general, sorry about that!

it seems I can only download the patch, where is the game in the main page?

>>11323798
I love the portraits in this game.

My game runs so much faster without the visual effects, why didn't I just try that earlier

>>11327424
Boss and battle themes are some of my favorites. Special disk music on LoT1 didn't do it for me though.

>>11327424
I absolutely love the theme for the final stratum in LoT2, it sucks that it takes a bit to get going since by the time you get to the good part chances are you're in a battle, but leaving it on in the background is nice.

>>11327451
Trying to avoid cleaning the entire image. Pretty hard when it basically means you have to redraw half the image.

God I hope this gets translated quickly and not a year after it's release. I loved the original

Are there still missing spell animations or did those get added in with the patches already? I wanted to wait to start playing the game until it seemed complete.

Oh, it seems like Japan finally knows Flan's requirements.
>加入条件:紅魔組+魔理沙　各戦闘ポイント500以上で12F　B-7にいく
So, get to grinding Marisa, Remilia, Sakuya, Patchouli and Meiling.
2500 BP in total really feels like a bit too much.

>>11327445
And apparently that's all I was lacking.

>>11327424
LoT2 is alright, it's nothing super memorable but nothing that will make you want to play without sound.

What are the benefits of leveling down a character?

>>11327668
Item drop rate from things higher level than you.

>>11327672
"things"? It's not just bosses?

>>11327677
Boss I know of, however I don't see why it wouldn't apply to normal enemies. I could be wrong though and it may only be for bosses.

>>11327677
It's not just bosses. 3peso himself talked about it a long time ago and the Japanese wiki mentions it. As long as you fight things above your level the drop rate will be increased.

I WAS SO CLOSE TO WINNING YOU STUPID FUCKING DOLL

>captcha: cavalry oneltau

>>11327757

Its not immune to instant death.

>>11327757
Nobody cares about your captcha, /a/spie.

>>11327457
I'M GETTING HUNGRY, HOMBRE.

>>11327457
Wasn't it 3?

>>11328102
Yes its three.

For physically weaker characters, would it be a better idea to dump levelup points into either the Defenses or HP?

Not trying to turn them into a tank, just keep them from getting one-shot by random attacks.

>>11328182
Put those points into atk/mag then a combination of buying HP at the library, and an appropriate sub gear to cover a weak affinity if it is prominent in the stratum you're at will be enough usually.

The bestiary and wiki say Youmu has 5 drops, and I got 6, two of which aren't on the list. What happened?

>>11327070
Marisa too

>>11328194
You actually only got four. The 生命の玉(Life Sphere) and 活力の玉(Energy Sphere) you got are the bonus items from staying under the challenge level of the boss. The bonus is always two randomly selected stat-increasing items.

>>11328182

Case by case scenario. Generally the answer is no, but in some cases I could see it working out.

>>11328239
Oh, I was under the impression that the two rows of drops on the wiki were like the normal drops and the challenge drops, I didn't realize they were unlisted (or random for that matter).

All my characters' library levels look like in the pic and I put all my level bonuses into either def or spr, depending on which was lower at the time. Am I doing it wrong?

>>11328268
looks good

>>11328268
The only thing I would watch out for is that speed/agility is a very expensive stat to raise unless it's a character like Aya. Generally what I do is buy HP and the girl's main stat, like Attack in Youmu's case while also sprinkling in defense and mind.

>>11328268
You should just focus on the important stats, since the bonuses are percentage based, youo gain more by dumping points into the ones that are high already.
Overall you don't lose anything that won't be regainable by fighting a single battle on high floors.

Wriggle's poison just scales with poison like in the first one, right?

>>11328239

Would it be a good idea to stay under the level of every boss, subboss, foe, ect that you met? Are there any items that you would miss if you were too high level?

>>11328268
Level bonuses tend to go best with their "main" stat since it's a higher boost, so you may want to rethink that. Otherwise it's fairly good.
As for putting points into speed, you generally don't need to do that until later, especially since it needs quite a few points to show any difference.

I was asking because I read the strategy for Komachi on the japanese wiki and it said to pump Marisa's magic stat to over 900 by getting her to lv15, all level bonuses and 60 library levels into magic, adding some magic buff in the fight itself for 15000 damage Master Spark. If I tried to put 60 library levels into one stat I would have barely anything left for my other characters and stats, unless I am missing some secret way of making money aside from Rinnosuke's skill and lots of fighting.

>>11328283
That's silly, there are plenty of ways to kill Komachi, you don't need to rely on a single person. I certainly didn't.

>>11328283
That sounds like a pretty stupid strategy, and this is coming from someone that fed Kasen the majority of their money.
Komachi is a fairly easy fight as long as you're prepared and know how the fight goes. If you need to just throw your party at her until you figure out your own way to fight her, relying on other people's strategies isn't nearly as fun.

>>11328282
The game is supposedly balanced as to give a good challenge by fighting a boss on the challenge level. The items themselves are all stat-boosting items like the life sphere(max hp) and energy sphere(max tp, I think) you got, so it is your call if you want to aim for those. I have no idea if you can grind them from normal enemies later on like most normal boss drops though.
Also only bosses and subbosses have challenge levels, normal mobs and FOEs do not.

>>11328283
pfff. I started with Youmu, Rinnosuke, Reimu and Marisa. I unloaded a spark on her and switched her for Rumia. Youmu is a dedicated switcher and tank. Rinnosuke heals whatever hapened on the first turn to Youmu and is replaced by Kogasa. Koagsa keeps going with her terror/MND debuff spell. Reimu dumps her def buff twice and goes for Keine which starts going for Atk. Rumia then keeps spamming buffed laser spell on Terror/MND debuffed komachi. If you keep buffed, and switch in Reimu for party heal you should reliably end up with Marisa ready to fire a second master spark on weak boss.

>>11328290
I rarely follow the strategies I read to the letter and only wanted to get some more inspiration and details on how her fight goes since it was already mentioned to be quite hard. The poison moth just before her (level-wise) was a real wake-up call for me and I did not want to frustrate myself with more than one defeat while frantically trying to piece something together.

>>11328293
I still haven't had a boss fight that lasted long enough for Marisa to get enough MP for a second Master Spark just by being on the back line, I think.

>>11328294
You are supposed to die 12 times to get Kasen.
And death is nothing really bad, since you lose no progress.

>>11328283
You just need to debuff Komachi using Kasen, Cirno, Parsee, or Kogasa and have a character tank death and damage while buffing yourself.
Switching in Minoriko once your tanker reaches low health.

>>11328184
Alright, also is it bad to spend those points on defense for a character like Momiji? I really enjoy seeing her take 0 damage from just about everything.

I'm having a hard time deciding a party setup. I want to use MoF characters but Marisa is just too good to stop using. Then again I also want to try Team 9ing it.

>>11328294
That's reasonable, it's also neat how I have the exact opposite attitude when it comes to dying a bunch at bosses so I don't really have.
I always use my favourite characters in games like this and also dislike grinding, so no matter how subpar and underleveled I am, as long as a win is reasonable (around 7 levels under the challenge level was what I deemed reasonable here) I'll charge into the boss as long as it takes to form the perfect strategy to defeat them with what I have.

>>11328296
>>11328296
I know, but I usually reload if I even get so much as an accidental death during any other game, so grinding defeats does not come naturally for me. I prefer to leave the defeats to run their natural course, or stuff like me jokingly trying to take an FOE with an injured and unprepared party.

>>11328300
No Kasen yet, only four or so defeats.

>>11328299
>I really enjoy seeing her take 0 damage from just about everything.
No! If she's doing good as a tank for you then you should develop her accordingly. You can have a character fulfill different roles (Stones come to mind).

>>11328306
Speaking of FOEs, goddamn that FOE on floor 4 what the hell am I supposed to do

>>11328311
I suppose killing it to death isn't a viable option somehow?
You have to evade it right now iirc and tackle it around 6F.

I was surprised when Parsee did over 3k damage right after Komachi used Avici. Also unloaded 2 Master Sparks that did the same amount of damage. Also Rinnosuke (my main tanker/switcher) died after several debuffs landed on him

>>11328311
Dark Side of the Moon, Slash of Eternity, Master Spark.
Any of those work, you don't forget to buff and debuff to deal with it easier.

>>11328307
Ah, well she's mostly there to absorb damage, and maybe launch some normal attacks/bite spell on something weak. Use her to formation switch and whatnot.

Plan on buying the accuracy buff and speed buff as soon as I can. Once I unlock Aya i'll have her in second spot then hopefully Sanae/Minoriko/Hina and Reisen/Kanako/Yuyuko eventually.

Might have to swap out Aya for Wriggle depending on how much shit i get into with bosses.

>>11328321
It kills almost anyone in one hit even with buffs only tanks survive a hit, at most it takes 3 to kill Komachi, it seemingly has fairly high debuff resistance, very few people can damage it at all, and they don't last long, it kills everyone way faster than Wriggle can poison it to death, I just can't seem to deal nearly enough damage as fast as it can kill me. I think I'll wait on killing it now.

>>11328338
Tank with Momiji. Get Reimu and Keine to cast def buff and switch in for Maris or Rumia for buffing then damage the boss with Dark Side or Master Spark and switch them out once the boss would start to attack. In my opinion an easier boss than that sheep on the 2nd floor.

BP grinding post-game is killing me inside slowly. Well, at least I should only need to get Marisa up a bit more to be done with it, that's always a good thing.
There's also the plus side that chances are I wont have to grind for a little bit come post-game.

Downed Komachi, only lost Rinnosuke and Cirno to insta-death. Followed >>11328293 plan with Youmu as tank and Marisa/Rumia as damage dealers after Kogasa debuffed her while Rinnosuke/Reimu/Keine buffed the party and Minoriko/Reimu healed, having Momiji, Chen and Nitori (Extend Arm's nature element makes it effective here) jump in for some extra damage while the others healed their MP. I tried de-speeding her with Cirno but she seems immune to that as neither Cirno's passive nor her Icicle Fall worked (and the Ice element made for subpar damage). That regen passive on Youmu really helped keep her in top shape throughout, same with Minoriko. Youmu as MVP tank even got the honor of finishing her off with her Eternity Slash after Komachi healed herself twice and Rumia was empty again.
All in all a nice fight, that damn poison moth was quite a lot harder with its stupidly fast group attacks.

So how do I deal with these worms? They seem to have really high evasion

>>11328454
Those are sea slugs.

>>11328454
just keep trying to hit them, they're very fragile. Alternatively, use Kasen's first two skills, which are more accurate, or place Momiji on the front line with her +accuracy passive.

>>11328454
I just oneshot them with Marisa's second spell.
Everything except buffed knights die in a hit.

Holy shit did people hype up that stone golem FOE. My level 10 Marisa almost 1-shot the damn thing and then Rumia finished it off with one more hit.

personally, I really enjoy the music for character boss battles, everything else seems average though.

So I can't seem to see Mokou yet on the 4th floor. I already recruited Wriggle. I see on the wiki that I have to see Eirin and do Wriggle's subquest.

>>11328691
meant for
>>11327424

>>11328704
Talk to Reisen, right part of 3F.

so I'm reading through the character summaries, is Ran as terrible as she seems on paper in this one? in the first game, because of the way MP worked, she could sit out on the front lines for days, buffing the whole party while being tanky, making her the best supporter in the game. Now, it costs 10 mp to do, with a max of like 30 or so without gear.

I went "holy shit" when Mokou revived and did her nuke which killed 3 party members. At least Kasen survived it

>Play for more than 10 hours: Money +10,000
>Play for more than 30 hours: Money +30,000
Fuck yeah, looks like i'm leaving this game running while I sleep.

>>11328667
My Marisa didn't have enough MP for Master Spark yet, so I resorted to spaming Dark Side of the Moon while putting sacrifices on the left because of the golem's insane attack.

Also guys, how do I Parsee? She didn't do much damage even after Komachi debuffed everyone.

Does healing spellcards scale off MAG or anything? If not, i'm just gonna pump Minoriko with all the HP and Defense.

>>11328949
She seems like a good one to pair up with Hina, maybe.

>>11329023
Yes they do. They get up with buffs too.

>>11328731
It might not be as good, but hardly would I call it bad. You weren't even able to fire off that many buffs until you hit F21+ anyways so it's really not a whole lot has changed.

Her buffs on deployed party members is much stronger than before. Stick Enhancer subclass on her and she now has a 12-man heal. In addition to the 16%/8% increase to her buffs for front/reserve party members respectively. Different styles call for different characters though.

I'm finding the Remilia/Sakuya fight to be really erradicate, and not how I imagined it to go.

Remilia feels less durable than Sakuya, considering that actively trying to take down Sakuya results in Remilia being pretty even in health with her. Which is problematic due to her using Bloodsuck which only exaggerates Sakuya's already very capable abilities to kill my backrow. Likewise Sakuya seems more or less immune to debuffs whilst Remilia is susceptible to them, and Sakuya is weak to status effects where Remilia isn't.

Any tips for this fight? I figured I should save Master Spark till after Sakuya gets low enough to where she starts using Private Square to help prevent to many problems.

So, who to pick? Mokou or Kaguya?

>>11329125
Do you want a tank made of fire or a nuke/debuffer?

Just pick whichever 2hu you like.

>>11329093
>You weren't even able to fire off that many buffs until you hit F21+
What was your build? I have her all SP increasing items, put all her bonuses into sp and was able to start buff spamming by floor 16. Really helped against yukari

>>11329121
I got pretty lucky with that fight, honestly. I poisoned the fuck out of Sakuya, and started bashing her with all my heavy attacks. When she was out of the picture, I only had to rely on Aya, and Alice. Since they were evading Remilia's attacks.

>>11326845
Do characters spot actually matter except for the few skills that mention them (i.e.Meiling not being in leftmost) ?

>>11329135
Well yeah, if you dump everything you got into SP then sure I guess it stands to reason you'd have more SP.

I took advantage of her solid defensive stats and made her into my opening off-tank who fired off as many ATT/MAG buffs as possible, than swapped out for Yukari while Ran regenerated.

If you wanted to stack SP though, it shouldn't be difficult. Three 4+ MP items, drop some points into Boost MP along with levels, plus whatever Enhancer gives you. Should be able to land 40+ no problem, maybe even 50+ by the very end of it all? I'm not that far yet to say for sure.

Get her 'Expansion of Consciousness' skill with +2 MP Regen and she'd be regen'ing 12 MP each turn. More if she's got 'Cooling Down'. Would make a solid combo with Chen if you use her since Concentrate gives Chen a massive buff.

>>11329166
Yes, the further left a character is on the front lines, the more likely they are to be targetted by an attack.

Thats why you keep all your bulky characters to the left and the weak magicians on the right.

>>11329174
Aaaaaannnd that's why my Nazrin keeps dieing.
My main setup being Komachi, Nazrin, Rumia and Chen when farming BP (F7).
Thanks

>>11329125
Pick Kaguya so you don't have to backtrack to get eirin

I'm glad this game is pretty deep, from what I saw of Labyrinth of Touhou 1 I wasn't sure I would enjoy the sequel. The changes are fantastic though.

>>11329694
It's good, but a lot of the bosses and Foes later on died too fast to really be a challenge. Even the final boss 10 levels under the challenge level was a joke. The grind area on floor 20 was pretty ridiculously easy as well.

Overall, everything past floor 12 just needs an HP boost to keep up with the insane character attack scaling. Hopefully the post-game floors will be better, just waiting on that patch.

So now that the games been out for a while, what are everyone's opinions on it? Good? Bad? Is it better or worse than its predecessor?
it's my personal GOTY

>>11330084
Enjoyable, solid mechanics, i don't see any replay value once I finish it though.

I am about to start the game and see patch from
>>11327005

Did people who have tried this with the latest patch encounter any problems or should I patch only to 1.120 instead?

>>11330419
What you linked IS 1.120. It's also deleted. You want the patch in >>11327451 , which is 1.130.

>>11330426
Ah, thanks. The old mediafire link still works, though.

>>11330350

Waiting warmly for NG+ so I can do incredibly silly runs with the people I want to play with.

>>11330501
Speaking of NG+, I wonder if you'll end up with two Yukari and Yuyukos if you stick them in your last two slots before doing that level 32 boss on floor 4.

>>11330350
Challenge runs maybe?

Tenshi 2.0 insane. Can't scratch her without poison, and poison seems to only actually land 20% of the time. Komachi debuffs are also incrediibly unreliable.

>>11330603
Which fight is Tenshi 2.0?
Either way, the real issue in the Tenshi fight is that you can only damage her when she has her debuff on that is caused when she buffs herself, without that chances are even things like Master Spark will only do 3k at best, so you'll either need a way to debuff her or an attacker that can ignore defense buffs when she's like that.

>>11330621
She's heavily resistant to dark though, so Rumia is out.

>>11330623
Yep, that's an issue.
This would actually be the kind of situation where a properly set up Satori would help out due to her Eyes That Perceive Reality skill, set her up with someone with a powerful attack that isn't resisted and you can double up on it with hers ignoring buffs which makes up for her slightly lower stats.

>>11330663
I never thought about that, I'll give it a shot though, thanks.

>>11330673
Honestly, neither did I until just now. Satori is the kind of character I didn't look twice at when playing, but thinking on it she could be really good with a proper party.
I may have to give her a shot when post-game or NG+ comes out.

>Fighting Mokou
>use Wriggle poison to outdamage her healing every single turn
>near death
>orin uses spear attack thingy to kill
>rebirth
>orin's passive triggers twice
>kills Mokou

how do i get the 3 items to get rumia?

>>11330694
Please tell me you're joking.

>>11330699
nope, im on Floor 5 and i dont think i ever found the item

>>11330721
The item you need is Manga Meat. You can buy it in Nitori's Workshop.

And if you're using the preliminary menu patch, it's also the only item translated into English, making it impossible to miss.

>>11330682
Who are you quoting?

>>11330721
The item is called Manga Meat, you can pick them up at Nitori's shop.

The reason I ask is because this question is literally answered two or three times a day.

>>11330726
i just got the patch, that makes things much easier

>>11330350
i have so many games to play, that i don't replay anyhting nowadays.

So how far into the game should I be in to even get a Stone of Awakening or Jewel of Greater Awakening?

Holy shit Mokou I wasn't prepared for that, please don't copy Biotopos on a game that doesn't have a cover all move. Is there any way to survive the revive nuke other than stack as much fire resist as you can?
At least the rest of the fight went well on both my tries, thanks to Kasen hitting status effects, Kogasa getting her self-buff train going and Wriggle's poison.

By the way, how should I use Youmu? She's doing well enough as a switching tank that gets buffed and will eventually recover HP every turn, but that kind of feels like wasted potential.

>>11330892
You should get your first Stone of Awakening around floor 6 or 7.
I don't think I've gotten a Jewel of Greater Awakening during the main game, so the only one may be from the achievement, since I only have 9 stones myself. I think I need to go back and open locked chests that I forgot about.

>>11330921
Try your luck with Aya or Chen being able to evade it. There's also Komachi that can survive it just as long as she has really high fire resist and at full or nearly full health

>>11330921
>11330921
>>11330921

I use as a physical nuke because her MP issues feel a lot lighter comparing them with LoT1. I just wish her self buff skill was better, and that she had some skill with Yuyuko.

>>11330930

I doubt there's a Jewel actually in the dungeon somewhere, since it being reusable basically makes Stones obsolete.

>>11331032
Ah, it's reusable? That's handy, now I really need to get those remaining stones.

Best portrait?

They're all good, but Rin is my favorite so far.

>>11331053
I like Parsee's.

>>11330921
use Orin with Extra Attack and Needle Mountain of a Former Hell.
if youre lucky, itll kill her upon rebirth

>>11331053
Kaguya's and Youmu's. Satori's has grown on me, too.

>>11331053
I've seen Kasen's so much that it's really grown on my, but I also quite like Remilia's, Rin's and Yukari's. Although, in the case of Yukari it's mostly because the gap looks really nice.

>>11331053
Utsuho's looks fantastic, the wings and cannon are really well done.

>>11330921

Was that a big deal for other people? My Kasen and Orin dodged it like a champ

>tfw nuked Sakuya and Remilia at levels 35-40
>challenge level is 43

feels good

also Yuugi's Last Fortress skill is amazing, doing 8k damage to a fully buffed Tenshi

So I got my first Stone of Awakening. Now for the hard decision of who to give it to and what subclass would that character be.

>>11331228
Do your research and it'll be pretty hard to make a bad decision. It all depends on your playstyle and strategy.

Only 7 more achievements until I can get past that stupid stone on 20F. I should have Flan soon enough to get that achievement as well, meaning I just need to pick 6 more to get.

>>11331243
I feel like if I could read moon I may or may not have more of these.

>>11331364
They're all translated on the wiki http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Labyrinth_of_Touhou_2/Achievements
A lot of them you end up picking up just by playing normally, very few require going out of your way to get.
6 and 23 are definite examples of "going out of your way," which is annoying.

>>11331375
Oh I didn't even know they were translated yet, that's helpful.

Does anyone know what those enemies on 12F which look like blue crystal do, besides giving good exp?

what do you need to do to get past this on the 8th floor?

>>11331438
I want to say you need to have Kaguya or Moko but I'm not sure.

>>11331438
See >>11325618

>>11331243
Now that they've fixed a few, it seems that there are exactly 88 non-broken ones. Sadly one of them is the 10000 BP one...that chest better be good.

Just how do you defeat that lamprey FOE on 4F? Dude seems to completely ignore what counts as a formation in this game.
By the way, oh Kogasa terror train, I love you so much.

>>11331539
Pray to the RNG gods. That lamprey hit Kaguya (on the rightmost) on the first turn when I attempted to fight it for the first time

so whats up with Tenshi
shes twice my level and i cheesed half her HP with wriggle's poison, shes kills everyone but 2 people and the battle ends...
did i do something wrong?

>>11331053
There isn't a single one I don't like, although I wish Keine would put her hat back on.

Iku looks suprisingly womanly, yet still thin. I really like it, and i'm not even a fan of Iku.

>>11331590
Nope, that's how that battle is supposed to go.

I swear that the first 2 bosses from 12F were more of a pain than the last one. That or Komachi, Aya or Kaguya are broken for that particular boss. Or another note, holy crap Mokou's heal skill is strong. Makes me wonder how a massive hp build would fare.

is this game on nyaa?

>Goes to bitch about Yukari's battle in LoT.

>Realizes that, not only is this thread talking about a second version of the game, but it appears better in every way.

Wait what.

The Tenshi fight in 9F is idiotc. It's a damage race, but nobody that usually does damage actually can, and poison doesn't stick to her so wriggle is useless.

>>11331645
Yukari in LoT1 isn't hard if you've been using Suwako.

>>11331802

I disagree; I thought it was fine. Then again, I was using Hina. Debuffs are hella powerful in this game.

>>11331866
I can't seem to get Hina to work correctly. As in I end up doing more harm than good with her first ability.

>>11331876

Engacho Guard? It's basically a free 40% debuff resistance for your party, which mitigates damage done to your own team a ton.

>>11331883
I suppose I could give her another chance. Maybe with Keine in the party too. Yeah, I could see where this might go.

>>11331915

Honestly, between Engacho Guard, Misfortune Reversal, and Role of Nagashi-bina, Hina's kit is just really good. Throw her Hexer subclass and she turns into the silliest offtank/caster/debuffer mix. Honestly I found that building her defensive-orientated while still putting level up bonuses in mind and having her sit in second slot was really effective. Not sure how I feel about having Keine go with this as well, though, since I feel like Keine's buffs counteract Hina's debuff-buff conversion. However it might have merit if you think Keine's buffs will net more good across the party overall; but in that case, why not use Ran?

Fucking hell! Survived Yuugi's onslaught with 2 characters left standing. Thank you poison and Minoriko for miraculously evading 3 consecutive 3 steps

>>11331645
>Djinn Storm
>Djinn Storm

>>11331936
Ya, Hina is silly when she does work. Against an enemy weak to debuffs she may end up having all their stats go to -40%. Only problem are those chars that have no debuff resistance at all (say, Aya).
>>11331802
Poison is actually really useful when it does stick in that battle. Had to use Satori too, though. And I wish I could know which level of buffs triggers her "Sword of Youthoughtyoucouldbuffyourselfhowprecious". I know passive skills don't (say, +8% Mind from Keine), but Rinnosuke's Battle Command does, so maybe something like buff is above 20%, or +50% in total buffs?

I can't say I was expecting this much from a master spark, even if I was using it on the FOE with incredibly low defensive stats.

>>11331975
I'm pretty sure it's just actively buffing that triggers that, and whoever actually benefited from the buff would proceed to be executed horribly.

>>11331975

Not even against things weak to debuffs. Hina's basically just "If you don't have debuff immunity, prepare to get -50%'d to stats!", the character.

what i have to do here ?

>>11332131
Four scrolls, three are from the Nazrin BP events, the one of floor 14 also requires Nitori BP. The fourth scroll is a random drop on floor 13/14 I think.

So, what do I need to do 88 times to clear this rock? That's the only thing I got trying to translate it.

>>11333338
make 88 items

Does the FOE killing achievements (and Yuugi's recruiting requirements) only count separate FOE kills, or can I kill the same ones over andover again?

>>11333466
Same one over and over again.

how long does it take for FOEs to respawn

>>11333642

Every 15 exits from the Great Tree

Just starting my first run through labyrinth 1

Any agreed upon optimal way to spend the free 100 skill points patchy gives you? Or is it just whatever? Or should I just play the game and quit being a little bitch.

>>11333725
i'm not sharing my speedrun strats with you

>>11333725
Just whatever. 100 points really isn't a lot. It won't last you long. I'd recommend buffing up SP for everyone, but especially Marisa.

>>11333725
Whatever you feel the need to increase, starting with the most expensive stats (TP and resistances I think), for characters you want to use throughout all or most of the game.

does momiji seem like a jeigan to anyone else? She's good early game for a tank, but then gets outclassed as a tank by meiling and komachi as they can take more damage and actually have supportive abilities(what kind of tank can't support), and gets out DPS'd by youmu when she actually has MP to spend.

i cant find satori ;_;

Whoa, dude's not even weak to darkness.

>>11334081
That skill only damages foes with terror status and it's pretty high and combined with "Ability to manipulate jealousy" skill, she can do high damage if more people on the field (including allies) has debuffs

>>11333994
Momiji has by and large the largest defense growth in the game, stick her against a physical attacking boss and boom.

Her support comes from her skill "Ability to see a Thousand Miles" rather than abilities, which frankly is better because it doesn't require Momiji to expend a turn for an ability when she can swap someone out. I think a lot of people forget that accuracy is pretty important since missing any spells can mean the difference in a fight.

Meiling has lower Defense and Mind gains, but slightly higher Health and absolutely zero damage. I don't see how this makes her a better tank, her Healer might make her a better support, but not a better tank.

To say that Youmu is a better physical tank would be wrong pretty inaccurate, she has worse health, defense, and mind scaling but yes Youmu does more damage.

Komachi is the only person who really can be slated for better. Just because her can stack the fuck out of Affinities, which paired with her massive Health pool and Regen she's almost unkillable. Not to mention her ability to debuff.

>>11334143
I wasn't implying youmu was a better tank, I was implying that if you were using momiji for damage she was outclassed by youmu.
Meiling is a better tank because while she has worse def, she actually has a way to sustain herself and others with colorful rain and healer.

>>11334125
I currently have her pointed in 追い討ち Lv2 and 嫉妬の炎 Lv1. Would that skill be a better option to what I currently have?

>>11334166
>sustain others with healer.
Healer is incredibly weak, which is largely why I've never opted to use Meiling in either game. Because there have always been alternate, and better sources of healing that can actually sustain. Colorful Rain though actually does something sustain herself though.

This doesn't mean that Meiling is just a better tank, she's pretty situational just like all the other tanks. Momiji is a better support, but she lacks the sustain Meiling has. Trade offs for each tank really, both of them are better suited for different comps.

Anyone know what the hell Suwako is supposed to do? Her 'Ability to Create Earth' skill seems to imply that she is supposed to be in a tank role, but she lacks the durability so she must be an evasion tank? Doesn't look like she retained her uber Nature nuke either, at least if she still has it then it's been nerfed so far that I don't recognize it.

Is the final boss suppose to die in one hit?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy4lh5MjrzU

>>11334143
>Momiji has by and large the largest defense growth in the game

Fairly sure Tenshi's got that title, not Momiji.

>>11334267
Not sure since there isn't any info on the wiki and I haven't tested it, but that is probably true now that you mention it. Even if she didn't, her Def/Mind buffs are ungodly powerful so it makes up for it.

>>11334253
They added 1000 levels in attack, of course it died right away.

>>11333338
Oh, they changed that stone? Before it was 72 achievements, this is much more fair.

Dear god what the fuck is wrong with Yuugi's fight? I know, she's Yuugi and all, which usually means she kills everything she touches, but just why does she have so much evasion? How am I supposed to win a damage race if everything I do keeps missing? At least the second part of the fight is easier after you throw as many high evasion character onto your party as possible, make sure she's poisoned, and keep praying to the RNG god.

Okay, I give up. How do you handle Alice and her dolls? I tried poisoning her but that strategy won't even let me reach half her health. I tried the unorthodox Hina & Parsee strategy and it seem to work till one of Alice's dolls hit Hina.

>>11334282
They both actually have the same defense growth of 12, Yuugi beats them both slightly with 12.4. Momoji used to be a little lower than Tenshi, but the recent patches changed it.

>>11333994
Momiji only seems to have her speed boost and ACC UP skills going for her. A tank with only 2 abilities, both of which only do damage, is terrible. Unless you really want a super fast defence wall+the accuracy. Oh, and "eyes that see reality" or whatever.

>>11334290
72 achievements rock is on 13F, you unlock it to fight Eiki.

>>11334352
Oh, that was stupid of me, I just noticed that it was the fire area and automatically assumed it was that one since it was facing north. I completely forgot there was a stone on 15F.

Is there anything stronger to kill in the post-game than the secret ＦＯＥ in 16F? Apparently there's supposed to be a staircase leading somewhere on 12F but I can't find it.

I don't think I should ask if it's worth grinding all the money you need for Suika, but rather just how the hell can you get that much.

>>11334332
what level are you at?

>>11334783
I got her at around floor 10 myself, I just sold a bunch of spare equipment to afford all the stuff.
Although, it gets even easier just before the final boss, you can get 100k per 30TP easily, well maybe it's more, I lost track a while ago.

Labyrinth of Touhou 2 related.

Is it possible to get Tenshi if she ran away on Floor 6?

I had her escape 'cause my group could barely even stand up to her attacks and she escaped before I could defeat her. Kasen and a few others could damage her but she was downing my members in one hit and she ran away when I had a few left.

I'm way beyond that now because I thought nothin' of it (the wiki hadn't been updated with her then) and I'm at floor 10 now.

Disappointment all around if I missed her 'cause of one battle.

>>11335119
that's supposed to happen, it's an unwinnable boss fight

>>11335135

Oh, alright thanks. I thought it was atleast somewhat winnable because of her beastiary entry for that fight. Plus the wiki is saying "defeat" so that's why I came to question it.

>>11335145
If you drop her HP to 1/3, you'll get more item drops. Remember she'll run away when 2 characters are left standing

Has someone ripped all the sprites? I don't know how to fuck with .dxa files, google failed me.

Can someone get a CG rip of Tenshi's "troll face"

Okay so I talked to wriggle, and killed that giant wasp.
Now what? I talked to Wriggle again, and talked to Eirin, and back to Wriggle but neither of them seem to care.

>>11335693
there should be another one somewhere.

>>11335693

There's two wasps. The second one is on 4F.

>>11335701
Aw, shit. Thanks.

So what's the requirement to be able to fight this boss? Meiling, Reimu, and Marisa just talk

Holy hell that Komachi fight was a load of bullshit. Master Spark only did like 3500 to her, but Rumia and Kogasa did about 1000 each hit with their 3mp attacks.

Cirno was a star player too, -50% speed really helped.

>>11334321
I always use Aya to up everyone' speed. Also, I think inflicting heavy on her works.

>>11336135
You should've used Parsee. She does 5k damage on her last spellcard if Komachi's afflicted with terror

>>11335854
>Find all the different events on 7F and 8F.

>>11336227
Doesn't that remove terror, though? Kogasa wouldn't enjoy that.

>>11336227
I didn't have her at the time, I probably could have gotten her if i'd died a few more times to get Kasen and then killed the FOE to get Chen but this fight was incredibly intense the way I did it. Only lost 3 times before the RNG didn't fuck over my best characters right at the start of the match.

Also does anybody know if Rinnosuke's Item and Money increase skills work while he's in reserve, or does he have to be active? Also does his money skill stack with Komachi's money skill?

Hey, I played Labyrinth 1 but gave up in the post-game at the twin Hibachis. Should I go back to that or are the extra 10 floors not worth it?
I really want to play this because it just looks so good so far.
Also, any more Cave bosses in this or do all the FOEs just make up for them?

>>11336357
The grind goes to infinity and beyond, plus there was one bullshit floor when you walk on outer space. Didn't have the dedication to force through.

>>11336407
Alright, gonna skip that then. I never had it in me to grind postgames anyway.

I've got a problem though, I can't seem to fullscreen (Alt+Enter or F11) so there's a lot of stuff that's simply not on screen. I'm guessing this is some sort of resolution problem but I'm wondering if there's some fullscreen option I'm missing?

And I can't believe I got screwed over by the first boss. Oh well, at least the first few deaths are useful in this game.

Damn. How do you defeat Tenshi on floor 9? I can't seem to stick poison on her. The few times I did, it wears off since I have a hard time stacking poison. Heavy isn't slowing her down that much either and the only one that can damage her is Kaguya with her 75% chance mind-ignoring spells.

Wow, trying to play the first game after this is kinda hard. They did a really good job polishing it and adding lots of helpful things for the second game, including but not limited to the art.
Also, what the hell is up with that encounter rate? You can't go ten steps in one direction without a battle popping up.

By the way, we're on page 8 already, in case I'm not the only one still playing this game who wants to talk about it on /jp/.

>>11337886
I didn't use poison for that fight because it was really painful to get it to land. You can try debuffing her defense with Iku's attacks, since I think they decrease it by ~40% with each hit, and she can buff others' attack.
>>11338035
Game is short and ran out of gas after the 2nd day or so. Also I think the game is incomplete because there's achievements that can't be completed.

>>11327522
Image cleaner, any progress on these?

I could have sworn the reward for 60 hours played said 200,000, not 60,000.
But it clearly says 60k. How the hell did I get that number?

>>11338533
That was for the older versions. The 30 hour achievement used to be 100,000 instead of 30,000.

Page 9 has arrived, time to abandon ship.

New thread >>11339286