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Japanese bird touring exclusion zone

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>> No.11275266

Are these the new Japanese Street threads?

>> No.11275260

is this what radiation does to japanese birds? its huge!

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>>11275260
Not just birds

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>>11275267
those cows look normal

I would live there if it meant I could be huge too though

>> No.11275276

This thread is now about wild animals in abandoned town.

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>> No.11275303

These are the ostriches kept by that last man in fukushima right?

>> No.11275308

That Vice documentary was depressing as hell.

How long is this area supposed to be cordoned off, anyway? It's not going to be another Pripyat is it?

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>> No.11275326

>>11275310
nande desu ka

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>> No.11275336

>>11275330
"Zi"?

>> No.11275340

>>11275330
my name has an accent in it, what should I do?

>> No.11275341

>>11275330
This was pretty fun, but I'll never tell you my name.

>> No.11275344

Zumoariri

t-thanks for the name mom

>> No.11275343

>>11275330
that makes for one incredibly long name

alexander would be katakunakatotekushi

>> No.11275349

>>11275344
do you drive?

>> No.11275350

>>11275344
Are you enjoying your night, Josh?

>> No.11275347

>>11275330
Bullshit chart. Especially considering most western names consist of at least 4 letters. After transfer, you'd likely end up with a name at least 10 letters long. HIBT?

>> No.11275353

>>11275347
Mine is 22 letters long.

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>>11275350
I'm on nightcall

>> No.11275367

>>11275330
kakiaritakitoji

such a silly word

>> No.11275370

>>11275330
I did it, then google searched it and there's some nerd who apparently has registered with this name everywhere including facebook and league of legends...

>> No.11275381

>>11275367
You could shorten it to cockatrice. Close enough.

>> No.11275416

That's an Eva gone berserk with its armor cast off

>> No.11275427

>>11275381
hah, that's cute

>> No.11275428

>>11275330
I hope no one takes these charts seriously.

>> No.11275447

>>11275308
This one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llM9MIM_9U4

I just watched it. Wow. It is a little sad but mostly I get a strong urge to just explore the abandoned towns. I have an NBC gas mask too, but the costs of travel would be too high.

>> No.11275535

>>11275447
The bit about the guy having to watch the cows starve to death was what got to me, I think. Watching anything die slowly has to be painful but something as big as a cow is just unreal.

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>>11275535
I wondered why he didn't kill them to put them out of their misery. Though I guess he probably didn't have a gun and hitting them with a shovel or something seems like it could be mentally difficult to do. I know I could shoot them, but I don't know about beating them to death.

How hard is it to get a gun in Japan, anyway?

>> No.11275636

>>11275578
extremely difficult, but not impossible. You have to take courses, go on a long waiting list, be approved, and even then they have to stay at an authorized range.

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>>11275578
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>>11275251
IT'S JUST LIKE IN MY JAPANESE VIDEO GAMES!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqntkLySQNo

>> No.11275651

Are there S.T.A.L.K.E.R.s in the new zone?

>> No.11275660

>>11275651
I'd love a Stalker game set in Japan

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>>11275660
A stalker game without guns. That'll be fun.

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>>11275665
I think it would be amazing, if done right. Have you seen the Stalker film? The 1979 one. There weren't really any guns used in it but it was great. I'd like to see that type of zone. Though it'd take a long time to get anywhere.

>> No.11275671

>>11275654
Fucking hunger meter

>> No.11275675

>How long is this area supposed to be cordoned off, anyway?

10 years is the shortest time period, if the radiation does not dissipate or the leak continues in those damaged reactors, it will be prolonged from 30-60+ years just like in Chernobyl

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>>11275669
I wouldn't want to fight stalker mutants in a stalker game without guns

>> No.11275682

>>11275330
Zukafu no Kuku

>> No.11275686

>>11275330
Arika Jiku

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>>11275677
Pick up a bat and get a dog to alert you of potential dangers before they occur. That sound fun.

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>>11275675
Jesus, I didn't think it was that bad.

>> No.11275694

>>11275688
That sounds pretty awesome, but then the zone isn't kind to animals.

>> No.11275703

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEmms6vn-p8

I want to be a cat doing cat things in the decaying, radioactive ruins of a modern Japanese suburb.

>> No.11275711

Reminds me of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiPgsesupDQ

>> No.11275722

>>11275330

tushukutochi

>> No.11276303

>>11275675
>it will be prolonged from 30-60+ years just like in Chernobyl

Estimates say 800-1,000 years man

>> No.11276360

>>11275343
if you split it up in one or two places it works out just fine

>> No.11276379

>>11275330
tukakichi

>> No.11276393

>>11276303
And this is why Nuclear Power may not be such a good idea.

Yes, it can be safe, but if an accident happens then the place becomes a death sentence for anybody nearby.

>> No.11276424

>>11276393
You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Coal and trash power plants produce a fuckton of byproducts destroying the ozone layer and evironment, and coal must constantly be shipped in.

Nuclear power is cleaner in harmful releases unless there is a major accident. The spend fuel is a nightmare but can be contained to a limited area.

>> No.11276432

>>11276424
Aren't solar, wind and water plants a better option? I remember reading that a large enough solar power plant in any of the deserts in the planet could feed all the continents no problem.

>> No.11276448

>>11276432
solar panels have been getting cheaper, but they aren't that cheap yet. Wind is good in certain areas. Tidal is also good in certain areas.

The problem with solar is what happens when its overcast/stormy for days on end.

>> No.11276454

>>11275330
Chishikiarichikato

Wow thats a long name

>> No.11276490

>>11275330
kiarime katote kashi

uhh really?

>> No.11276498

>>11276424
Fine particle pollution alone from coal kills approximately 13,000 people a year. Not only that, coal power plant releases more radioactive particles than nuclear power plants.

>>11276432
Dams destroy the environment, so tidal power would be the best option for hydropower. The most popular fantasies of covering a desert in solar panels have unrealistic energy efficiencies and don't care about transmission losses, among other things. But solar's quite good.

Wind power requires a shitload of rare earth metals that are mostly produced in China. Digging them up causes pollution, and their supplies are low.

Then there are plenty of ineffective options like biofuels that were the main cause behind the 2007-08 food price crisis.

The cleanest option would be solar panels for primary energy production, and nuclear energy as a backup, with tidal power and wind energy being a minor contribution in some places.

>> No.11276607

>>11276432
Solar, wind, and water plants?
Hah!
Solar panels are inefficient as hell. Wind generates nothing compared to just coal. Water plants may be nice, but there can only be so many dams.
Nuclear is the most efficient fuel source we've got until anti-matter fuel comes along.

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>>11276498
>>11276607

Won't we have fusion power plants by 2100?

Nuclear is the way to go right now. We can store spent fuel rods and anti-disaster tech is constantly improving.

>>11275330
kadochi natorin

>> No.11277355

>>11276498
Why not just use thorium?

>> No.11277370

>>11276393
It was a 1st generation plant, and even then all of the safety measurements worked properly. But being a 1st generation plant, it needed assistance in cooling which was to be provided by some generators which failed because water went over the wall built around the plant. Officials warned the plant years in advance that if a mega-tsunami hit that the walls were not high enough to protect it. They could have built higher walls but did not. This was the main issue. But it's no reason to condemn nuclear power.

Modern westinghouse generation 4 nuclear plants can shut down properly without power from what I recall reading. A bunch of countries are too scared to build new nuclear plants so they sit on old, less safe ones. Meanwhile china has ordered construction of westinghouse generation 4 plants.

>> No.11277374

>>11277370
>But it's no reason to condemn nuclear power.
Actually it is.

Shit happens when corporations cut corners, and due to their very nature, corporations cut corners.

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>>11277355
This. Thorium reactors are safe and handle all of concerns a critic might have other than waste.

>> No.11277379

>>11277374
So condemn corporations.

>> No.11277386

Whole problem is that we're still relying on the old energy distribution model based on massive megaprojects powering entire cities or regions, concentrating risk at the expense of increased scale.

I've read about smaller reactors the size of refrigerators that can power city blocks or large towers. They are buried deep down in the ground and pose minimal risk.

>> No.11277382

>>11277378
Thorium may be superior but to my knowledge they don't exist. Things are hard to call safe when they don't exist. I wish they did exist though.

>> No.11277389

>>11277355
>>11277378
Politics and budgetting seems like a good reason.

>> No.11277392

>>11277374
>we live in an anarchistic free market capitalism society

Nope. The US and any properly developed nation's government has checks and balances on these things. The Army Corps of Engineers or the EPA comes to mind.

>> No.11277393

>>11277374
So nationalize power production, or enforce strict regulation.

>> No.11277396

>>11277393
Gubments cut corners too.

See soviets and republicans.

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>>11275330
kikato

>> No.11277409

>>11276393
See, this is the problem. The government tries to build newer, safer power plants and the public protests against them so the government is forced to leave these old, unsafe plants running long past their lifespan. Then they have the nerve to use a disaster like this as an argument against nuclear power?

The general public's astounding stupidity and hypocrisy makes me sick.

>> No.11277424

>>11277382
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/160131-thorium-nuclear-reactor-trial-begins-could-provide-cleaner-safer-almost-waste-free-energy

>> No.11277433

>>11277409
Human nature is conditioned to concentrate on the short term and the most highly visible. We are not a species that is built for rational acting when the benefits are not readily visible.

>>11277396
The Soviets were an authoritarian state that created few mechanisms for accountability.

Construct those mechanisms - freedom of info laws, strong and independent regulators, etc. - and you can withstand much of the corruption that seeps in.

>> No.11277450

>>11277433
>government
>ever able to do anything more efficiently than the free market

good one m8

>> No.11277458

>>11277433
What's beneficial about stopping the construction of a safer nuclear power plant?

They protest against how nuclear power isn't safe yet they are actively causing old dangerous plants to keep running.

>> No.11277490

>>11277450
Yeah man. For example, turning over water distribution to the private enterprise turned out so well for Ecuador.

>> No.11277493

>>11277450
Economic theory that was meant to apply to small independent farmers and blacksmiths during the 18th Century has little application towards massive utility corporations where overhead costs create automatic monopolies.

>>11277458
Oh, I'm not arguing with you on that point. I'm just trying to say that reason rarely triumphs in matters as emotionally charged as this. If you want to win, you need to find a different way than simply spraying people with facts.

People don't vote on facts. I've witnessed it first hand.

>> No.11277556

Seeing as the premise of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. was not really radiation that caused the Zone, but rather messing around with the Noosphere of the planet and fracturing it, I can only guess that Fukushima was the site of a recreation of the CNP noosphere experiments.

Japanese anomalies probably include random missile barrages from thin air, penis-shaped mutate flora that explode acidic fluids on your face, and invisible snake-like entities that seek out vaginas.

>> No.11277572

>>11277556
Sigmund_Freud.jpg

>> No.11277724

>>11277556

why are trips so gay

>> No.11277841

you can actually go to google maps and take a street view tour of namie after the evacuation.

>> No.11277857

>>11277293
If you ask /sci/ they'll just start a shitflinging thread which generally boils down to "Fusion is not sustainable nor containable" and the occasional ">stars >using brute force to sustain and contain a fusion reaction"

>> No.11278012

>>11276393
Roughly 10,000 people die every year as a direct result of coal power.

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>>11275310
Dwqd bodies in the Exclusion zone is sobfucked up. I dont even understand how the humans died and were left behind. Was it the rafiation? Pets, I get it, but humans? I just dont understand.

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>>11278081
Oh, I am bumping this shit so hard. It is just to interesting to me.

>> No.11278580 [DELETED] 

Oh, I am bumping this shit so hard. It is just to interesting to me.

>> No.11278583

Oh, I am bumping this shit so hard. It is just too interesting to me.

>> No.11278601

>>11278081
I don't know what happened to that cat, but there were no human deaths from radiation exposure. All human deaths were caused by the earthquake and tsunami. Bodies weren't removed because of the evacuations afterward.

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>>11278601
( `∀´) The abandoned cats got hungry and ate each other.

>> No.11279350

>>11278601
So there's still bodies rotting in the exclusion zone?

I wonder if there's any NEETs still secretly living there.

>> No.11279352

>>11279350
There's an old farmer and his birds and another old farmer who has no animals left.

>> No.11279370

>>11275330
Aridodota

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Unable to survive without people to feed him…

>> No.11279408

>>11279401
I don't understand how people could abandon pets like this

>> No.11279468

>>11279408
Humans are extremely cruel when they're afraid of something. It's simple psychology, not rocket science, Jim.

>> No.11279683

http://gifmaker.me/PlayGIFAnimation.php?folder=2013080715spylyMlZI4kweMhIZUs4qM&file=output_Io18YS.gif&music=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMK6TXMsvgQg&start=0

>> No.11279782

>>11275330
Fudoshiki

>> No.11279945

>>11279408
>>11279468
Unless that dog was tied down or extreamly stupid, I dont see why his instincts dint take over and ran away.

Animals are always the first to respond when a natural disaster is coming and they immediately start to head for the hills while filthy human scum just sit and gawk and wondering why the animals are running away.

>> No.11283267

Le bunp faec.

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