/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Thanks, mom.

I love you momma

Hey sexy momma

Rub a dub dub, thanks for the grub.

thanks mom lol!

curry is my favourite! i love u mom!

eww curry

>>11038585
lol, are you trying to hit on an older woman

Hey, mom, can I take the car out tomorrow night? I need to pick up my girlfriend for our date.

>>11038601
nice

thanks for the curry, mom
would you like a wiener? ;-)

That looks delicious!

>>11038751
omg u meanie y wud u cheat on mommy? i would never NTR the most beautiful woman in 2hu

dad

mommy, where's daddy?

>>11039007
big butt

>>11039002
Would you be my mum kanakp?

ＢＩＧ　ＦＡＴ　ＭＯＭＭＹ　ＢＵＴＴ　！！

>>11039002
Kaiakr?

My life would be so much better if Kanako was my mother

>>11039310
wow

Remember when mommy threads were good? Well of course you don't you neo-/jp/ scum

You're not my mom.

>>11039384
My sex life would be much better

>>11038522

Good mom at day, bad mom during night

>>11039179

Am I the only one who was too busy looking elsewhere to notice her butt?

>>11039927

mfw

>>11039838

I want to impregnate Sanae while Kanako strokes her hair and tells her that it's necessary to carry on the bloodline.

>>11039981

Are you me?

>>11039981

>>11039935
Nice surprise box.

>>11039981
so....
happiness milk doujin with kanako when?

do you like real milfs jp

>>11043130
Ewww

>>11043130
yes

>>11043130
they're the only type of women i like, other than 10-13 yr olds

>>11043130

>>11043130
i want to have sex with a real japanese mommy~

S-s-show me your tits mom

>>11039981
Would rather be impregnating Kanako.
Sanae is a descendent of Suwako.
Since it's Kanako's shrine now, it is only fitting she had a descendent as well.

>>11043139
So finding a 30 year old with a 13 year old daughter would rock your world?

>>11043652
Awfully young mother.

>>11038747
Yes.
Is it working?

pls post hebihime chan

>>11043130
I am too old for them to treat me like a child and too young and inexperienced to satisfy them. I hope that answers your question ;__;

>>11038522
Please stop starting these threads with that picture, its annoying.

Loving mother at home
Badass warrior at battlefield

>>11043130
What about 3D touhous? Would you rest your head on mama Eirin's lap?

>>11045314
She making pizza rolls for our sleepover

>>11045377
not as long as she looks like a freakish finn

>>11045382
>pizza rolls

>>11045420
/drorpheaus.avi

Mom, I can't get this Gogurt open.

>>11045382

>>11046017
ill show you a gogurt....

>>11045971
I read that as dropbears

Thread needs more mom.

There are some maternal relationships in touhou.

>>11038601
Dinner AND a bath?!

Kanako is tall!

>>11054177
Mom! I can see your butt!

MOMMY BUTT

Mommmmmmmmy~

Has /jp/ ever "borrowed" their mother's dirty panties?

What was the result like?

>>11043683
Women should ideally have children from 18-28

Anything older or younger seems unhealthy

>>11054855
You mean 24-34?

>>11054861
Over 30 is no age to be bearing children. Women should have their youthful years of 20's devoted to giving birth and childrering why they still have the energy and health.

How will a mother handle raising a teen daughter when she herself is going through menopause with one foot in the grave?

>>11054871
The child enters college when the mother hits 50. The father will be old enough to downshift a bit for the family's sake. At that point, the siblings will be old and civilized enough to reinforce each other.

>>11054900
so a teenage child will have 70+ year old grandparents in your ideal. Sounds insane. not like it matters, families only having 1 child at age 39 isn't sustainable, people with larger families at younger healthy ages will again be a norm when the kids who grew up in those families adopt those same ideas.

>>11054909
I'm 20 and my only remaining grandparent is 98, the rest are all dead and well over 100.

>>11054921
I'm the same age and all my grandparents are still alive. I have one great grandparent still alive, but I remember seeing and talking to six of my great grandparents.
The women in my family have started to have children before hitting 25, and birthrates for everyone in my near and distant family as far as I am aware, are above replacement rate.

>>11054935
so you hail from a low income family?

fascinating

>>11054909
>so a teenage child will have 70+ year old grandparents in your ideal. Sounds insane.
Taking care of yourself is a skill. Even my life experience indicates that educated people tend to age well. Education also correlates with wide and healthy social networks which further insignifies the role of grandparents.

>>11054871

>when she herself is going through menopause with one foot in the grave

When was the last time you shaved your neck?

>>11054871
>How will a mother handle raising a teen daughter when she herself is going through menopause with one foot in the grave?
By hiking up her big girl panties and sucking it up, because she is not a bitch or a whiny teenager.

>>11054957
What insults?

>>11054946
Not at all, what is with the insults?
I hope I haven't made you upset.

>>11054964
You belittled the social standing of my family, I do not hail from low income classes.

>>11054954
Easier said than done, older people do not have the energy to properly care for children. If you want to rely on strangers at schools to raise your kids as is common today, they will not be up to par with those that had highly involved parents.

>>11054956
What does neck hair have to do with that?

>>11054972
>You belittled the social standing of my family, I do not hail from low income classes.
It wasn't me. Why are you insinuating that being relatively poor would be shameful?

>>11054976
>insinuating that being relatively poor would be shameful?
Because it is.

>>11054984
I dread the day when the ones in power start seeking status in order to avoid the shame of poverty.

>>11054972
>Easier said than done
To be honest, munching through le uni while taking care of a baby sounds worse.

>>11054972
>Easier said than done, older people do not have the energy to properly care for children.
Are you an expert on old people or something?

>>11055011
What business does a woman have in university?

>>11054935
I wish I could have met my great grandfather, he served in the trenches during WW1.

>>11055020
Studying.

>>11055023
the dick lol

>>11055023
This isn't 1650, you can study and complete personal pursuits at home on your own time, for free. Unless she intends to be a career woman, you dont need that. If she wanted to be a career woman, its not like she could do much in raising children anyways.

>>11055033
>you dont need that
You don't need to do anything. Look at how happy the Maasai are.

>>11054835

>>11055040
What is the point in paying a large sum of money to study things you can read for free, that are also easily available. There is no reason to obtain a university degree unless you intend to enter the workfoce in a specialized and competitive field that required that qualification.

>>11055046
For starters, why are you assuming that you're talking to an American?

>>11055049
It doesn't matter where you live, nothing is free. They get that money out of you or someone else, one way or another. More to the point with the previous things said, given how western socialized states with "free" education also have abysmal birthrates.

Why are we talking about children? They are deprecated.

By the time the current children reach a useful age computers will be so advanced that we won't need any more humans.

>>11055061
"paying a large sum of money" implies a personal monetary sacrifice, which has nothing to do with higher education in many of the so-called first world countries.

>They get that money
What money? How much money do you think was needed for this guy's education:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Perelman

>>11055073
Yeah, trust me.

>>11055077
What does he have to do with anything?

If you just do a little bit of maths you will see it's going to happen.

>>11055074
>Grigori Perelman was born in Leningrad, Soviet Union
> Grigori's mother Lubov gave up graduate work in mathematics to raise him.


Do you live in a communist state where everything is rationed, that you can compare the economic situation of your countrymen to them?
Do you think resources are infinite, that people work for no return? There were expenses in salaries for everyone involved in schools where he learned, and those resources came from other people doing work elsewhere and paying into a controlled system.

At the very least his mother agreed with my viewpoint, I doubt he would have had the same success without her care and guidance.

>>11055087
Indefinitely extrapolating a line into the future is not rigorous mathematical practice.

>>11055087
The technological singularity term was coined by him, which goes along with what you were saying. The transhumanist ideals also depend heavily on his ideas, which were shaky enough in their initial publishing, and all but debunked now.
He is on the level of the zeitgeist documentaries.

>>11055088
>At the very least his mother agreed with my viewpoint
What was your viewpoint? Was it "What business does a woman have in university?"

As you can see, she engaged in Ph.D. studies. That hardly looks like agreeing to me.

>>11055089
It's not indefinate, we have the technology to create a full scale simulation of the human brain already.

>>11055093
all but coined*

>>11055094
Yeah, after we spend a hundred billion dollars and three years building a supercomputing center the likes of which the world has never seen before, we'll have finally increased the population of the world by one.

>>11055103
I don't think you understand just how quickly technology scales.

2 years ago Tianhe-1 was the fastest computer in the world at 5 pflops, today Tianhe-2 is the fastest at 50 pflops. That's an order of magnitude faster in only 2 years. Sure you may have a single simulation of a brain but in 20 years time the equivelant of a desktop computer will be able to do it.

>>11055098
Graduate studies does not fully imply doctorate work. On top of it being something you could accomplish on your own time, she never pursued anything with her studies past influencing her son. She could have very well reached the same level without taking up state resources. As you can see ,she really had no business at all in university.

>>11055127
No it wont, we are reaching a level where there is too much heat per die, along with there being no more space to pack more transistors, which is what this superawesomefastexpansion is.
This has already been written about to death, unless quantum computing is developed, moore's law ends.

>>11055125
Raising someone who solved the Poincare Conjecture is more than most PhDs can hope for.

>>11055127
Indefinitely extrapolating a line into the future is not rigorous mathematical practice.

>>11055132
If only more mothers took the time to properly care for their children, maybe more men like him would come into the world.
Again, you do not need to splurge on a university education to study these subjects if you do not need the qualifications for a career.

>>11055139
Perelman's mother taught mathematics at a technical college.

>>11055125
>without taking up state resources
You taking a shit takes up about as much resources as a medical student participating in an exam does.

>she never pursued anything with her studies
"Grigori Yakovlevich Perelman's parents are Yakov Perelman, an electrical engineer, and Lubov Lvovna, who was a teacher of mathematics at a technical college."
http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/Biographies/Perelman.html

>>11055139
>you do not need
Neither do you need to give any value to the opinions of a chauvinist luddite.

>>11055165
It's two in the morning and none of us have anything to do tomorrow.

>>11055146
>>11055155
So she needlessly worked, it still does not invalidate what I've said.


>You taking a shit takes up about as much resources as a medical student participating in an exam does.
Possibly in a communist society where everything is tightly and artificially contained.
Students do take up resources in an institute, unless you want to argue that all university comprises of is taking one test a week with no lectures or uses of its facilities.

>>11055165
It has nothing to do with me being a luddite, and if I were you still have not addressed the issue. You have nations with labor surpluses leading to high unemployment, and drastically low birthrates. This is what the ideas you defend have accomplished.

>>11055173
>So she needlessly worked, it still does not invalidate what I've said.
You need a degree to teach mathematics at college. She chose that over being a research mathematician, so not all of her her postgraduate studies may have been strictly necessary, but often what people want to do in life changes.

>Students do take up resources in an institute, unless you want to argue that all university comprises of is taking one test a week with no lectures or uses of its facilities.
The majority of classes taught in a university are taught in rooms where the limiting factor is not the room's physical capacity.

>>11055190
Rooms need maintenance, there is furniture to purchase, grounds to take care of, janitors to pay, administrators to file student admissions and adjusting schedules, classroom supplies to purchase such as experiment materials, bills to pay for utilities. That is only the very basic, once you get into research there are very expensive machines and scientific instruments to also purchase. All this money does not magically appear.
I'm baffled at how ignorant you can be to believe it only takes a few pennies to run a university.

> so not all of her her postgraduate studies may have been strictly necessary, but often what people want to do in life changes.

In the grand scheme of things, she still spent needless time there.

>>11055216
>Rooms need maintenance, there is furniture to purchase, grounds to take care of, janitors to pay, administrators to file student admissions and adjusting schedules
Dingaling University in Fuckwater, China has all of these too and doesn't charge twenty thousand dollars a year.

>classroom supplies to purchase such as experiment materials
>once you get into research there are very expensive machines and scientific instruments to also purchase
Most students are not doing research.

>In the grand scheme of things, she still spent needless time there.
In the grand scheme things everything we have ever done or will do is pointless.

What the fug are you guys doing. Go to tickle eachothers anuses else where. This thread is about momy. Where all the momy pics at?

>>11055173
>needlessly worked
If you consider any kind of education "needless work", I'm astonished.

>You have nations with labor surpluses leading to high unemployment, and drastically low birthrates.
Well, doesn't that look like a self-fixing combination? My grandfather spent years plowing fields with a horse-drawn plow while I'm studying German, OS design and math in an apartment that holds a steady temperature of 21 degrees Celsius around the year.

>>11055234
>Most students are not doing research.

Yes, they should be there to spend money in order to fund research projects. Good job getting conned if you live in the US and dont intend to pursue graduate studies, or wasting time and money if you live in a socialist state and are not going to use your degree for anything, thus depriving those same graduate students of funds that will instead be wasted on you.

>In the grand scheme things everything we have ever done or will do is pointless.
Only if you selfishly see nothing past your own experience. What we do has a direct effect on coming generations.

>>11055245
>Yes, they should be there to spend money in order to fund research projects.
Most research universities do not fund their research out of tuition.

>Only if you selfishly see nothing past your own experience. What we do has a direct effect on coming generations.
One day there will be a last generation. Their lives are pointless. By induction, all previous generations lives are pointless. QED.

>>11055235
da fuk

your mom is there for a reason, now fuck off, you hillybilly

>>11055247
>hillybilly
frig off ricky

>>11055242
>If you consider any kind of education "needless work", I'm astonished.

The education is not needless work, as you can self-educate. Needless work was working at a technical school.

>Well, doesn't that look like a self-fixing combination?
No. If you remove the unemployment, women will even have a greater incentive to enter the workforce and following a working life, which would deprive their children (if they ever have any) of proper care, and further lowering the population. It is a social issue.

>Most research universities do not fund their research out of tuition.
Some still do, and the costs for the rest of the mentioned items along with many unmentioned are still things that tuition money is spent on.

>One day there will be a last generation. Their lives are pointless. By induction, all previous generations lives are pointless. QED.

No it does not, humans have an impact on the planet, and in the future our solar system and beyond. If all humans were to be removed today, we have still left an impact on this planet and the people who made up humanity can be ascribed many purposes.

>>11055290
>Needless work was working at a technical school.
What determines whether work is "needless"?

>Some still do
They must not be very good.

>If all humans were to be removed today, we have still left an impact on this planet and the people who made up humanity can be ascribed many purposes.
"Learning things" is a good a random purpose as any.

>>11055290
>Needless work was working at a technical school.

>>11055294
>What determines whether work is "needless"?
The position could have been filled by another while she attended to matters of higher value, like being a mother and homemaker.

>"Learning things" is a good a random purpose as any.
Again, you do not need to waste money or resources on attending a university if your only purpose is learning.


>They must not be very good.
That does not matter, do not nitpick. You have not addressed many other things I've also said.


>>11055295
Nice reaction image.

>>11055290
>No. If you remove the unemployment, women will even have a greater incentive to enter the workforce and following a working life, which would deprive their children (if they ever have any) of proper care, and further lowering the population. It is a social issue.
All women should have at least some work experience so that they know how things actually work. If the entire universe of employment is a black mystery box, chauvinistic men can tell women anything and verifying it reasonably will be difficult.

If you ignore your children because of work, you're the one to blame.

>>11055309
>Again, you do not need to waste money or resources on attending a university if your only purpose is learning.
-- u

>>11055309
>The position could have been filled by another
It could have, but it wasn't.

>while she attended to matters of higher value, like being a mother and homemaker.
Yeah, if only she had put more time into raising her son, maybe he would have solved the Reimann Hypothesis as well. What a fuckup.

>You have not addressed many other things I've also said.
And you I. Except most of the things I'm not responding to were directed at someone else.

>>11055310
>All women should have at least some work experience so that they know how things actually work. If the entire universe of employment is a black mystery box, chauvinistic men can tell women anything and verifying it reasonably will be difficult.

I don't see what you are responding to in what you quoted. Being a homemaker is work, that is work experience. How can you say a mother does no work, but a cook/tutor/housekeeper/nanny does?

>If you ignore your children because of work, you're the one to blame.
When you work a 40hr+ hour workweek, how do you expect to have time for your children? Doing so would in reality be a 60 or 70 hour week.

>>11055313
Are you trying to say it is not possible to learn things on your own? You have internet, go read.

>>11055314
It could have been easily filled, it was not a duty that only she could have shouldered. That stands in opposition to raising her child.
It also goes past just the issue of this single family as I've already said over the course of this thread.

>>11055329
I can't help but believe that you're deliberately trying to spread confusion. Just in case, I must tell you that you're one of the most pitiable shitstains I've ever seen.

lol u guys are autistic
posting from my vita

>>11055329
>When you work a 40hr+ hour workweek, how do you expect to have time for your children? Doing so would in reality be a 60 or 70 hour week.
Where do you pull those numbers from?

>>11055335
On what basis do you say that?
If you don't explain, you've done nothing more than throw out insults solely because you dont agree with me rather than refute any of it.

>>11055329
>Doing so would in reality be a 60 or 70 hour week.
There are a hundred and sixty eight hours in a week.

>Are you trying to say it is not possible to learn things on your own?
People who are looking for jobs can also learn this way.

>It could have been easily filled, it was not a duty that only she could have shouldered.
Yes, it was not absolutely necessary that she work. That doesn't mean she shouldn't have done it.

>>11055341
>If you don't explain
90% of the replies you've gotten in this thread have consisted of calm explanations. You're literally saying that learning that doesn't directly contribute to a career is pointless. I wouldn't call that merely ridiculous but toxic.

>>11055340
A full time job would average you 40 hours a week. When you get home and you take care of your children, that is still real work put in. If a mother takes hours of her day to tutor her children, clean the house, and cook, she has still done work. You cannot say that what she has done outside of her job is not work. If you had hired a person to do all of those things, it would be considered a job and work done. The mother in the situation I've described is doing much more than 40 hours of work.

>There are a hundred and sixty eight hours in a week.
56 sleeping
40 working
12 commuting
14 eating + bathing
Lets say you only spent 6 hours extra in errands per week.
That would leave 40 hours for a single non commited human to do as he wishes. Unless you want this person to be a complete slave work horse, they will burn out.

>People who are looking for jobs can also learn this way.
Good luck getting hired at a hospital without qualifications.


>Yes, it was not absolutely necessary that she work. That doesn't mean she shouldn't have done it.
She eventually came back to raise her child, but a workforce life was no place for her.
>>11055351
>>11055351
But I have not, you are entirely wrong. I've said it multiple times in this thread already, you can learn without wasting money and resources in a university. All a university gives you is something to show your employer so that they know you are qualified.
Not once in this thread have I ever insulted or called named either, so I don't know what the issue you have with me is.

>>11055367
>That would leave 40 hours for a single non commited human to do as he wishes. Unless you want this person to be a complete slave work horse, they will burn out.
If a woman enjoys neither working nor raising children, then yes, this would be endless misery. Some women enjoy both.

>Good luck getting hired at a hospital without qualifications.
Medicine is special. You can get hired in other industries with certifications alone.

>She eventually came back to raise her child, but a workforce life was no place for her.
I believe that she continued to work after Grigori was born. I don't know for sure.

>>11055367
>A full time job would average you 40 hours a week.
Why does the mother have to work 40 hours a week?

>All a university gives you is something to show your employer so that they know you are qualified.
I must believe that you're being disgusting and misleading on purpose. University invariably at least introduces you to professors and other students. When you have met several professors, you have met true intelligence. University teaches you what it feels like to do demanding intellectual work.

>Not once in this thread have I ever insulted or called named either, so I don't know what the issue you have with me is.
I'll repeat: you're literally saying that learning that doesn't directly contribute to a career is pointless. I wouldn't call that merely ridiculous but toxic.

>>11055374
>If a woman enjoys neither working nor raising children, then yes, this would be endless misery. Some women enjoy both.
She can work by raising her children and managing the household. There should not come a point where her personal pursuits will come at a cost to society of a declining population.

>Medicine is special. You can get hired in other industries with certifications alone.
Furthering that university is not required for most things, but those industry positions are neither prestigious nor highly skilled if a few certifications will make due.

>Why does the mother have to work 40 hours a week?
>>A full time job

>When you have met several professors, you have met true intelligence. University teaches you what it feels like to do demanding intellectual work.
You can meet those people on your own time, meeting other people and being impressed by them is nothing amazing or worth your time unless you have prolonged contact with them. You will not be doing demanding intellectual work in basic undergrad courses, as everything presented will have most likely already been solved or shown as a method of learning. The only real boon from wasting your time and money there would be having your professor as a reference for workplace applications.

> you're literally saying that learning that doesn't directly contribute to a career is pointless. I wouldn't call that merely ridiculous but toxic.

No, again. You can learn all these things without going to a university. You do not need to be enrolled in a university to learn, you can do it on your own time with the help of a plethora of free resources available online and elsewhere. What is pointless, is obtaining a degree if you do not intend to use it. There is no point in you attending university if you will live the rest of your life as a housewife that will not apply that knowledge, or worse, you go to university for the "social" aspect or for an arts non-degree.

>>11055412
>There should not come a point where her personal pursuits will come at a cost to society of a declining population.
An indefinitely expanding population is not necessarily a bad thing. Nor is a woman who works required to have one or zero children.

>Furthering that university is not required for most things, but those industry positions are neither prestigious nor highly skilled if a few certifications will make due.
Lawyers, sysadmins, programmers, and actuaries are not "prestigious" positions but less than one percent of the population work in "prestigious" positions.

>>11055420
Rather, that should be "good thing."

>>11055412
>>>A full time job
Why couldn't a mother be employed part-time? Part time employment for mothers is trivial to arrange.

>You can meet those people on your own time
With all due respect, academicians usually don't meet random street-goers just for the heck of it, nor do random-street goers seek to meet academicians. Not all people have highly educated relatives.

>from wasting your time and money
Why do you keep repeating yourself? Because you're repeating this disgusting statement over and over, I must believe that you're doing it deliberately to make people believe in it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mere-exposure_effect

>There is no point in you attending university if you will live the rest of your life as a housewife that will not apply that knowledge, or worse, you go to university for the "social" aspect or for an arts non-degree.
You're repeating yourself.

>>11055420
>An indefinitely expanding population is not necessarily a bad thing. Nor is a woman who works required to have one or zero children.

A declining population is bad, as is happening among educated people in the western world. A woman may have several children, but they will not be properly reared when she spends no time on them, or all of her spare time and leaving her to lead an unhealthy lifestyle.
>>11055437
>Why couldn't a mother be employed part-time? Part time employment for mothers is trivial to arrange.
She could be employed part time, but that is in addition to the work she already does by managing a household. I also dont know of many if any at all part time jobs that require a highly skilled worker with graduate education.

>With all due respect, academicians usually don't meet random street-goers just for the heck of it, nor do random-street goers seek to meet academicians. Not all people have highly educated relatives.
I was speaking of the students, as for the professors, you can read papers they have published to understand their work. Something that does not require you to build interpersonal relationships with them.

>Why do you keep repeating yourself? Because you're repeating this disgusting statement over and over, I must believe that you're doing it deliberately to make people believe in it.

No I'm not, you have not at any point ever addressed my main point presented against you.

>>You can learn all these things without going to a university. You do not need to be enrolled in a university to learn, you can do it on your own time with the help of a plethora of free resources available online and elsewhere.<<

>You're repeating yourself.
Because you've stated nothing to the contrary.

Linking a wikipedia article is not a valid response either, quote from that article what is relevant to our discussion.

>>11055449
>A declining population is bad.
No, it isn't. This about sums up what we've said.

>A woman may have several children, but they will not be properly reared when she spends no time on them, or all of her spare time and leaving her to lead an unhealthy lifestyle.
What makes such a lifestyle unhealthy?

>>11055452
>No, it isn't. This about sums up what we've said.
If you believe this sums up our discussion, then we have reached an impasse. I believe that a sustainable population is vital for humans, not one where we slowly decline.

>What makes such a lifestyle unhealthy?
A human needs time for leisure, it is stressful to work the load of two people.

>>11055463
>I believe that a sustainable population is vital for humans, not one where we slowly decline.
If the target sustainable population is above current, then people should have more children until we get there. If the ideal sustainable population is below current, then people should have less until we get there.

>A human needs time for leisure, it is stressful to work the load of two people.
Some people enjoy working, raising children, eating, sleeping, or bathing.

>>11055449
>A declining population is bad, as is happening among educated people in the western world. A woman may have several children, but they will not be properly reared when she spends no time on them, or all of her spare time and leaving her to lead an unhealthy lifestyle.
You're demonizing education itself by claiming that it causes childlessness. I'll leave it to the readers to figure out how much sense that makes.

>but that is in addition to the work she already does by managing a household.
Surely the other members of the household can't participate because that would actually involve cooperation? What an outlandish idea. I mean, we're talking about a family after all.

>I also dont know of many if any at all part time jobs that require a highly skilled worker with graduate education.
This in no way contradicts the fact that part-time employment for mothers can be trivially arranged. Existing attitudes are behind the current situation.

>I was speaking of the students, as for the professors, you can read papers they have published to understand their work.
...and this would demolish my point. When you have seen professors in nature, heard how they talk, what they think and how they operate, you have encountered true intelligence. Anti-intellectual lies burst like bubbles.

>Because you've stated nothing to the contrary.
Yes I have - not attending university makes you miss the university experience. You will go through life without a relatively early contact to the academic world.

>quote from that article what is relevant to our discussion.
The entire article sheds light on how exposure works. Your repetitive antics made me post it just in case.

>>11055467
>If the target sustainable population is above current, then people should have more children until we get there. If the ideal sustainable population is below current, then people should have less until we get there.

I've already addressed this,
>If you remove the unemployment, women will even have a greater incentive to enter the workforce and following a working life, which would deprive their children (if they ever have any) of proper care, and further lowering the population. It is a social issue.

It may be loose conjecture, but what incentives would people who live as they do today, have to propagate and mantain a population? Economic incentives have already been attempted in Japan and they haven't been very successful as far as I'm aware.

>Some people enjoy working, raising children, eating, sleeping, or bathing.
Possibly, but people who enjoy spending their time solely on types of work are very few, if they were not, we would not have such a leisure and entertainment based society that looks for every distraction.

>>11055476
>You're demonizing education itself by claiming that it causes childlessness. I'll leave it to the readers to figure out how much sense that makes.
I am demonizing nothing more than what statistics already show.

>Surely the other members of the household can't participate because that would actually involve cooperation? What an outlandish idea. I mean, we're talking about a family after all.
Cooperation that does not need to happen. A real cooperation would be everyone having their own field and area of work. Nothing would get done if everyone was a jack of all trades.

>This in no way contradicts the fact that part-time employment for mothers can be trivially arranged.
It doesn't, but the rest of my post that you've not quoted, does provide reasons to why part time work would not be something to strive for.


>When you have seen professors in nature, heard how they talk, what they think and how they operate, you have encountered true intelligence. Anti-intellectual lies burst like bubbles.
They are not gods. I have met professors, I have attended university myself, and I will say that the only boon obtained has been the usual of qualifications and nepotism. Smelling their farts means nothing.

>Yes I have - not attending university makes you miss the university experience. You will go through life without a relatively early contact to the academic world.
The university experience is not bottled and the same for all alumni. Describe what it is you consider an experience worth years of time and money.

>The entire article sheds light on how exposure works. Your repetitive antics made me post it just in case.
I am being repetitive so that you will attack the content of my posts rather than fling insults and ignore it, as you did for your first few posts.

>>11055491
>...and I will say that the only boon obtained has been the usual of qualifications and nepotism.
The more educated workers you have, the less you need to resort to nepotism. There's a larger pool to choose from and the most suitable canditates get the jobs. There will be more healthy competition and more aware people. If education were cheap or even free, it wouldn't hurt to _see what university is like_.

>I have attended university myself
I can see that. In my opinion, you write like an ice-cold zealot who's drowning in loans.

>Cooperation that does not need to happen.
_Teaching at a techical university is needless work and cooperation inside a family doesn't need to happen?_ This sounds wonderful, especially if it's coming from an educated person.

>Describe what it is you consider an experience worth years of time and money.
You're repeating yourself - I'd like to go on without repeating myself. I have already replied to this.

>rather than fling insults and ignore it, as you did for your first few posts.
This is incorrect. I have insulted you in three or four posts including this one, and they weren't the first ones. It looks like you're just making repetitive noise now.

>>11055477
>It may be loose conjecture, but what incentives would people who live as they do today, have to propagate and mantain a population? Economic incentives have already been attempted in Japan and they haven't been very successful as far as I'm aware.
This is a cultural issue. In some countries most women work and they have many children (primarily less developed countries). In some countries most women don't work and they still have many children. And in some countries most women work and they have few children.

>Possibly, but people who enjoy spending their time solely on types of work are very few, if they were not, we would not have such a leisure and entertainment based society that looks for every distraction.
Being a working mother is not for everyone.

>>11055510
(And in some countries many women don't work and they don't have many children. That was the one that should have been included.)

>>11055511
>The more educated workers you have, the less you need to resort to nepotism. There's a larger pool to choose from and the most suitable canditates get the jobs. There will be more healthy competition and more aware people. If education were cheap or even free, it wouldn't hurt to _see what university is like_.


False. There are simply not enough spots up at the top for everyone who gets a degree to work there. The people who were not suitable candidates at this stage should have been rapidly dropped to start with or not gone at all.


>I can see that. In my opinion, you write like an ice-cold zealot who's drowning in loans.
I owe a total of $1700, I graduated fall 2012. I managed to obtain a near full ride while barely scratching cum laude at the mercy of professors and commuting from home. I hated seeing people there who had no purpose other than to experience the "lifestyle" and later be the same kinds who whine about money owed.

>_Teaching at a techical university is needless work and cooperation inside a family doesn't need to happen?_ This sounds wonderful, especially if it's coming from an educated person.
Again you nitpick, her position as a professor could have been easily filled while she attended more pressing matters. Real cooperation is people splitting labor by giving each specific roles. Doing otherwise is tremendously inneficient.


>You're repeating yourself - I'd like to go on without repeating myself. I have already replied to this.
Then I will assume all you consider such an experience is meeting professors and students, because there is not much else there a person who only had an interest in knowledge for its own sake to ever spend time in a university in the modern age.


> And in some countries most women work and they have few children.
By some it is statistically the western world that has this problem.

>>11055526
>Real cooperation is people splitting labor by giving each specific roles.
Your children will show you what kind of fruit your views on cooperation bear. You can then compare your achievements as a caregiver to Lubov Perelman whom you criticized.

>False. There are simply not enough spots up at the top for everyone who gets a degree to work there.
Here where I live universities promote personal autonomy and creativity. Most jobs are in fact created by people who have gone through higher education.

>By some it is statistically the western world that has this problem.
While sub-Saharan Africa does not.

>>11055533
>Your children will show you what kind of fruit your views on cooperation bear. You can then compare your achievements as a caregiver to Lubov Perelman whom you criticized.

My position would be to provide strong support to my children in roles different from those she had, but yes it would be interesting to see what my children would end up. I also lauded her for leaving her work to raise a child, I hope I can if ever find a partner with that same level of devotion.

>Here where I live universities promote personal autonomy and creativity. Most jobs are in fact created by people who have gone through higher education.
Yes, but when you get back down to reality, many modern industries require such immense startup costs that it would be improbable to start a competing business against larger corporate conglomerates.

oh my fucking god. take this shit elsewhere you psuedo-intellectual faggots

>>11055542
janny will delete it soon, he was probably in this thread too.

>>11055539
>Yes, but when you get back down to reality, many modern industries require such immense startup costs that it would be improbable to start a competing business against larger corporate conglomerates.
Don't you think that it's slightly lamentable? I'm sure that many bright, young minds across the world think so.

>>11055548
>Don't you think that it's slightly lamentable? I'm sure that many bright, young minds across the world think so.

Yes, it would be fantastic for everyone to live in a paradise, but you must work within the confines of reality.

>>11055552
What if reality starts looking too grim because relevant entities start attracting ruthless liars who are guided by the idea that might makes right?

>>11055526
>By some it is statistically the western world that has this problem.
Here's a Swedish scientist, Hans Rosling, explaining why the western fertility decline isn't a problem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTznEIZRkLg

>>11055526
>Real cooperation is people splitting labor by giving each specific roles. Doing otherwise is tremendously inneficient.
There are few ways more inefficient to raise children than have one person work full-time to raise a pair of children. The nuclear family is not actually traditional in many parts of the world.

>By some it is statistically the western world that has this problem.
All rich countries have this problem. Because they are rich.

"Among other advances, we have more choice than my parents’ generation did. They had more choice than their parents’ generation did. But when choice itself becomes more important than what is chosen, and self-fulfillment becomes more important than self-sacrifice, when fear and resentment over what we lack becomes more prominent than hope in and gratitude for what we have, then we enter into a spiritual and moral condition that may be rightly called decadent. It’s not for nothing that the Bible identifies wealth as having a high potential for being corrupting. And God knows we are wealthy."

top lel
Quantity over quality, eh?

>>11055623
You mean as opposed to an extended family, where you have grandparents do all the work?

>>11055696
Grandparents are generally retired and enjoy accompanying their grandchildren.

>>11055702
Retired people have more important things to worry about, like maintaining their health and putting their affairs in order to worry about raising children again.

>>11055696
man - 40 hours a week
woman - 0 hours a week

vs

man - 30 hours a week
woman - 12-16 hours a week

The latter arrangement will surely bring ruination and intolerable burden on the father, grandparents, relatives, siblings and the education system.

>>11055707
You put your affairs in order once and then you update them once a year. It is not a full-time position.

>>11055710
How is the woman getting a part time job causing the man to work less?

>>11055720
The system recognizes the increase in the total amount of work done. The hours will have more rest and relaxation behind them.

If the woman is educated she might actually do skilled work. When the father isn't pressed so hard, he can spend more time with the family and keep his emotional life in balance.

>>11055738
What really ends up happening is that the man has to work just as hard and he ends up begging his wife for more money to get by.

>>11055747
It's unfortunate that you wish for such things because your behavior will probably reflect your thoughts.

>>11055548
What do you expect, being able to start up your own Boeing straight out of college?

>>11055759
I'm just judging it based on my parents.

>>11055780
Large multinational corporations favor the purest possible capitalism, and so far most of those giants have hailed from the USA. In other words, it might be in their interests to keep foreign companies and even entire nations weak. Hard right-wing politics breed the most zealous corporate workhorses.

>>11055786
Well, you're on /jp/.

Man you nignogs are autistic. Nobody gives a fuck about opinions and arguments. A post with one line of greentext quote and answer is the most of an argument you can hope to get read by others. This site was meant for pictures and simple posts.

why

I love mommy, do you?

>>11057134
Yall cowards don't even smoke crack

the more I love kanako the more I hate my own mother

is this natural

>>11058380

No. You should go give your mom a hug and maybe chat with her some. I bet she'd like that

You'll never be adopted by one of the older Touhous

>>11063999
i prefer to open my way through her womb

>>11061112
what's with the stone pineapple slice behind her?

>>11064074
She's strong.

>>11064408
I can see mom's belly button!

>>11064408

>>11064408
Those hips...

plump mommy parts!

These threads always have something missing, the milf/older woman smell. If only you could upload that scent...

>>11067595
If you could upload scents, I'd be sure to upload hundreds of different farts just for you.

>>11067655
That isn't very nice.

>>11067689
Not that guy but I would love to have that uploaded for me to smell.

>>11067595
What does milf smell like?

>>11067899
menopause

>>11067899
Its indescribable.
Try to smell a early 30's woman sometime, it must be their body screaming to be impregnated.

It really is one of life's most wonderful scents.

What does a mom butt feel like?

>>11068225
Firm from all that housework!

>>11068196
My professor said once that women should get pregnant early in life to avoid birth defects.

I think that he's wrong. Mature mommies are the most impregnable. Their wombs call for cum.

>>11068294
They're desperate, but your professor was right. Girls should have children in their early twenties or late teens.

>>11068319
I'm sorry for lying, I'm not actually in education. I just read it in a newspaper or something.

I honestly just wanted to say how much I want to give older women the gift of my semen. And then have excellent sex with their ripe, pregnant bodies. Perhaps they would let me drink their breast milk while we have sex?

>>11068337
Older women do have the sexiest bodies, younger girls cannot compare.

>>11067595
I'm farting right now if that interests you.
And that is the first thought I did, even before reading this comment.>>11067655