/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Why do touhou fan games create original characters?
Are there not enough fucking 2hus to play around with already, that they feel obligated to stick in their own shitty creations?

Oooh yes it is.

>>11041480
I just lost ~8 items including a gold drop. Goddamn A route. I need to rethink this.

>>11041552
Cry me a river.
You're not playing Weekend?

>>11041565
Nope. Also that sucks. I think at least, I've not been crafting much; should probably change that. I'm not even sure what exactly I lost, I raged through the list.

>>11041565
Why not?

>>11041145
>>11041480
>>11041565

Witch 2hu game is dis?

Are you the guy who didn't use half his team? Enjoy your boss battle.

>>11042516
the bad RPG one.

>>11042516
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Genius_of_Sappheiros

>>11042543

Arigatou anon-kun. I think I already have it actually, just haven't installed/played it yet.

>>11041145
I didn't actually mind that stage, even took down a massive demon. A well-levelled group properly split is pretty great.

>>11042536
Not him.

>>11042601
I guess that's my problem: I've been trying to brute-force teams instead of thinking about them. But really if I put Aya on route A with breath reflection I should be good.

>>11041145
Still waiting for those Gensou Maroku translations

Well done, now you've fucking attracted cancer like >>11042571

>>11043111
its metastasis'd long time now like stage 4

>>11041145
That's just the first taste. True suffering has yet to begin, OP.

Hey, I was hoping someone would make another thread! It didn't feel right playing without a thread in the background.

I just got to Youkai Mountain after using my super guerilla tactic to defeat Eirin and Kaguya, and suddenly everything I come across are weak enemies. Can't say I like this!

>>11044042
Youkai Mountain is one of these take-it-easy stages, which has multiple bosses. Just relax and enjoy the new music.
Higher up you'll start meeting giants who love punching your party members to death.

>>11044042
I think it's only the first part of the stage that's really easy. Later there are some better enemies.

>>11043111
>cancer
Do people still say this?

>>11044070
Those guys punch the character with the lowest HP so its easy to cover them with Alice.

>>11044070
>>11044079

Oh, I see. I'm bracing myself already! And indeed, the new music is quite fetching, although I've come to expect no less from a game with a soundtrack as incredible as this.

>>11044106
fucking hell why didn't I think of this

Ganbatte Youmu, you can do it!

Shit, I always run out of bombs/mana. The problem is that my party 1 cannot even kill the phase 1 boss (usually I switch around 50%). That means my main party spends lots of mana/bombs before I get to phase 3.

>>11044532
You can't really allow yourself that.
Optimally, phase 2 should be spent by getting them to near-death, swap to party 2, get buffs going, and start the last phase, while Youmu prepares to slay a god.
You really need to blow everything you have on the boss.

>>11044532
you might try putting Alice in the first party so that they can finish the first phase more safely. Without Alice in the second party you have to do the other two phases very offensively, but really, is there any other way.

Haha, I just tried again hoping for better RNG. Well... Ganbatte, Alice!

>>11044595
>>11044602
Yeah, looks like my current strategy doesn't work.
I think my party 1 is not doing enough damage just because I'm undergeared. I can't craft any end-game weapon/armour because I didn't get any special material drop. And I have only 2 Iron out of 5 for Kusanagi (I heard you needed 25 before expansion). I guess I have to return and grind a little bit.

>>11044698
I beat the boss without grinding 25 iron for the Kusanagi. If Youmu has one of her better weapons, she can do it.

For the first phase i did most of my damage with Marisa and Patchouli + Nitori's chasers.

In the end i mostly died if the boss decided to spam vortex in it's final phase.

>>11044698
fucking 30 irons before weekend. Still one damn fine investment and a really satisfying facemelter. The only shortcoming is that you can't upgrade it. 5 iron cost is a pittance.

>>11044727
I'm tempted to switch to weekend for this reason alone. Then again I'll probably just deal because I'm lazy.

>>11044727
Is doujinstyle a good place to get Weekend?

English patch: http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10383.0.html

>>11044813
The translator used to post his updates and prepatched game on /jp/ all the time. His mediafire and the link you posted now only host the translated .pak files, it seems.

>>11044813
http://www.4shared.com/folder/eAB1gLLj/GoSEng.html

There is this which is the full Weekend game patched and translated

>>11044727
"One day, one evil"?

What does that mean?

>>11044828
Nice

Epic

I like it.

my ass is so sore right now

>>11045516
>freefight
That's funny.

>>11045516
Could be worse: you could be using Satori.

>>11045516
It seems fitting that Mokou was the only one that didn't die.

Fairy Maiden Wars Mission 10, Remilia 3rd Spell Card.

She pretty much instant kill if any of her attacks connects.

>>11045520
The idea was to take advantage of Byakuren's column heal, but holy shit it has some long cooldown. Anyways I think I need some actual fucking magic on route A to kill stuff before I get killed. Death Sakuya isn't reliable now, even with 117 ind.

>>11045525
I'm going to grind some spells for her I think.

Is there any way to "warp" out of a dungeon? Is there any fast travel in this game?

>>11045926

>>11045950

>>11046106
The aggro with tank/dps/heals doesn't seem fixed on the tank 100% of the time. I would estimate to be 50% aggro on tank and 50% on the rest. It makes it interesting, but still get to incorporate the t/d/h element. I have Reimu/Aya+Marisa/Sanae as my formation.

anyone else just brute force their way through the last boss without party switching?
I just wanted to prove I could do it without swapping, suffered for hours figuring everything out but man was it satisfying.

>>11044698
I beat the final boss without kusanagi nor mederoa.

It was my first try when getting past the first phase so I've only ever fought her second and third stages once.

Aya dodge tanking, Reimu, Marisa, Mokou, and Satori as the first party. Fujiyama Volcano phase 1 for victory is pretty much it. Phase 1 is fairly easy to survive with a proper Satori and Reimu.

Alice tanking, Youmu, Byakuren, Sanae, and Patchouli on second phase. I think I got pretty damn lucky as a vortex that actually hit Youmu during that phase only removed her elemental resistance self buff. 3 satellite slashes and the final boss was defeated with Doujigiri.

The first party should be capable of taking out the first phase entirely on their own. I did it within 3 cycles/18 rounds in which I had Mokou fujiyama Lithos every turn she was attackable.

>>11046156
A guy who let's played the entire thing while it was still Japanese apparently did it too. It pretty much depended on Sakuya and time stop abuse.

Well now. This certainly caught me off guard! Who'd have thought Cirno would incapacitate 3 of us at once in the first turn?

>>11046662
Use Reimu to protect against freeze effect.

>>11046690

I didn't need to! Casually brute-forcing every fight has worked so far, and it didn't fail me this time either!

>>11046156
Did not switch at all.

Continuation of >>11044532.

I replaced useless Sanae with Satori. Better healer (since she's less dependant on bombs), can spam magic reflect buff every other turn, does some decent damage during phase 3 with shadow flare (around 4k with Byakuren's +INT buff). To accommodate with the loss of Sanae's resurrection abilities I placed Mokou as the commander. Also I equipped Youmu with RES necklace and armour to withstand fucking Vortexes.
Without Mokou party 1 couldn't even take away 30% of HP from phase 1 boss. But whatever, party 2 killed everyone without any problems. Satori is awesome, I don't regret spending so much time learning skills for her. To >>11046707 who doesn't like her: get better tastes.

>>11047332

Heehee, you only make me want to complete the game without her even more! In fact, you just made sure I'll never use her no matter how bad the situation is!

>>11047378
It's not like you can just put Satori in your party and she magically saves the day. She has the lowest base stats in the game and 0 skills after level 13. Without huge time investment she's the most useless character in the game. And even with all those learned skills I couldn't find place for her during most of the boss fights. But well, whatever, it's stupid to think everyone will like my favourite touhou. Well, at least you don't dislike really essential characters in this game like Alice... oh wait..

Fun fact: the link provided in >>11044828 is the one I've used to download this game.
>Date Added
>7 months ago
Wow, it took me 7 months to beat this game (65 hours according to the in-game timer). When I started this game I knew little to nothing about the touhou. I didn't know who Sanae or Nitori is and I though that Patchouli is Remilia's sister. Basically this game was the reason I became the touhou fan.

Is the weekend mode thing something you can turn on and off in the game or is it an absolute patch?

>>11047624
The game is set to a new easy difficulty by default in Weekend version but you can turn it back to the original mode.

>>11047628
Weekend expansion adds lots of other changes that makes game easier and cannot be turned off:
1) balance fixes
2) no party wipe penalties
3) increased experience, AP gain and drop rates
4) reduced crafting costs
5) increased chances of learning skills with Satori (level requirements are lowered too)
6) additional items and chests
But seriously, I don't see the reason why would anyone still play the original version.

>>11047650
>increased chances of learning skills with Satori
Well, most people were already using the patch that increased learning chances. Seriously, 1% chance to learn for so many skills was way too low.

>>11047650

I would consider all of these to be a net improvement to the game and not just a crutch for baddies. Fucking grinding materials, seriously.

I was kinda confused with the whole patching/expansion stuff of this game.

>>11044828
this version has everything?

>>11047771
Yes. Download, unrar, set system locale to japanese, play the game.

>>11047771
>>11047784
Considering past experiences, setting your system locale to japanese before unRAR might be a good idea.

>>11047650
>1) balance fixes
Like what?

>3) increased experience, AP gain and drop rates
>6) additional items and chests
Really?

>>11047980
>Like what?
Lots of stuff. MP costs, cooldowns, power, item bonuses. Nothing major though.
>Really?
Yeah. They increased XP adjustments for underleveled characters
As for additional chests it's free Adamantine and Orichalcum right before the final boss fight.

Here's the full list of all changes:
http://www26.atwiki.jp/touhou_souzin/pages/251.html
Google translate gives decent translation for this page if you don't know moonspeak.

>>11047771
I've been ultra busy for the past few months but eventually I'll make sure to compile the latest english patch version. Made some various changes. Test pic related, I think people have wanted something like this.

>>11048083
Oh, that's nice. Way overdue too.

I just started playing this and some beetle at sdm killed my party. Sucks how you run out of MP too fast then have to resort to physical attacks for 80% of time.

>>11048107
Well you can't just spam spells at everything you see, duh.

>>11048110
It's was just a normal monster and most melee attacks dealt 0 damage which is bullshit.

>>11048134
So you've never played an RPG before, right?

>>11048134
So what? Most RPGs have an extremely physically resilient monster at some point or another.

Also, the only things you need MP for in the SDM are those beetles, ghosts, and maybe fairy mages.

>>11048134
Do you see these stars under monsters base stats? They are monster's resists (if you check this pic >>11048083, you'll see that they correspond to all physical attacks). It's a good thing to check monster's weaknesses/resists in youkai encyclopaedia after you've defeated them.
Also, you'll have mana problems till the end of the game. Get used to it.
>>11048083
>past few months
You've promised that half a year ago. Thank you, but today I've completed the game.

>>11048134
>Just a normal monster
>most melee attacks dealt 0 damage which is bullshit.
I think you won't like this game.

what does exorcism even do

>>11049517
神霊結界: Divine Barrier. X/100 constant reduction of damage from all attacks. When an attack has 退魔 (exorcism), it ignores Divine Barrier by a percent (for example, an attack with Exorcism: 50 makes it only half-affected by Divine Barrier)

Some bosses and enemies like to have Divine Barrier, especially later in the game.

>>11049533
so its pretty much useless until much later in the game

thank you!

>>11049548
Generally, if the enemy appears divine, angelic or demonic, it probably has divine barrier. Even early on in Forest of Magic you'll meet some angels that I recall having some.

There is no normal enemy with Divine Barrier before Stage 7. At least that's how it is in Weekend. Not sure if something changed in that area.

>>11049586
Ah, looks like Muenzuka is the first area. My mistake

>>11049596
Speaking of Muenzuka, I just got there and I was wondering what skills are worthwhile for Satori to learn at this point in the game.

>>11049616
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Genius_of_Sappheiros/Characters/Satori_Komeiji

be sure to get the single-target elemental attacks at least

>>11049616
Get the single target spells from mage fairies in SDM and forest. If you want a mass-damage spell, flame from various stuff in hell or frost from the ice enemies in forest would work.
You also want mind blast from the mind flayers in hell. It's very good. Poison mist from the moths in forest is decent enough, though I'm pretty sure poison art is better.

>>11050272
Oh, and energy drain from zombie fairies in hell. Very, very useful. For a holy single-target attack, get shining stars from the angel warriors in netherworld. Dark and holy are very useful elements.

Hey /jp/, I decided to give this game a spin again after a year or so had passed. I don't think I got far before (past the underground chapter).

Any tips I should always remember?

>>11050370
When in doubt. Run

>>11050370
Don't bum rush stuff. Think things through, find out what kills what.

>>11050482
>>11050508
Okay, thanks a lot.

>>11050370
Element modifiers are calculated before defense applies. Defense straight up subtracts from your damage value. If an enemy has a really high defense value, you can somewhat pierce it, if you hit their elemental weakness, if the multiplier can make it that much stronger.

Regarding types.
Dragons tend to have great 4 elements modifiers, with usually a high PDEF, try to hit with Light/Dark/Mystic.
Foreign Gods usually are angels and demons, often weak to dark and light, respectively. They also tend to have divine barrier.
Spirits are usually elementals, their weakness is usually obvious.
Giants seem to be weak to stab mostly, but they do vary quite a bit.
Transcendants are extremely varied, if you're having trouble with mind flayers, hit them with stab, the only magic that'll work is Lightning.
The various fairy & co warriors and magicians are often weak to dark.
Tsukumogami are always immune to light and dark.
Birds are weak to lightning.
Beasts usually weak to fire.
Reptiles usually weak to water.
Undead are usually weak to fire and light.
Insects are usually weak to water.
Youkai types are best exorcised with light.
Aquatics usually have a weakness to fire and/or lightning, if they're slimes, it's fire and water.
Burn the plants.

>>11051158
That made things smoother, thanks.

>>11046156
This guy beat the other final boss using a single party as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOukwEL2hwE&feature=youtu.be

Kinda amazed at how smoothly it went. Then again Satori had all her best moves equipped.

>>11048083
If you finish something like that I will love you

Why isn't she taking any damage?

>>11051624
Instant-kill her. The end

>>11051624
She's far too radical. I mean check out that pose.

>>11051631

Insta-kill moves were the first thing I tried after seeing the loser-hint, but Konpaku Flash does nothing and Sakuya's RNG is never on my side.

>>11051647
Increase your induction. Put more skill points on Sakuya's Instant-death moves and DEX. Use Byakuren IND up too.

>>11051658

I don't use Byakuren. I'll put some IND on Sakuya though!

>>11051667
Also use Red Eyes/IND UP formation too

>>11051667
>I don't use Byakuren.
I foresee you having lots of trouble in the near future!

Well, er... insta-killing her on the first turn was possibly the biggest anticlimax I've experienced for a while. Thanks for the tips though!

>>11051705

I was told the same thing in the previous thread when I said I wasn't using Satori. I'm doing this mainly out of principle now.

>>11051723
Stay strong, you don't need no mindreading scum to beat this game.

Had a weird glitch yesterday during the Play with Flan quest. I started the battle but forgot to adjust my party so i had to run away pretty much on the first turn. After changing my party i wanted to fight again but a generic enemy ran into me first. After killing the generics the Quest Completed message played and i got one of Sakuya's materials. However, i could still fight Flan now and complete the quest like normal. I basically got an extra item. Has this ever happened to anyone else? I can't seem to recreate that glitch but at least i finally had enough material to actually make an endgame character specific armor now.

>>11051834

My thoughts exactly. Ever vigilant!

>>11051936
That is a well known bug. People use it alot when farming for character materials. You run from the initial encounter and if you notice the boss will chase you, but never initiate contact. You walk through and just keep touching the normal spawns around her and can collect multiple items as each kill counts as a quest completion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T5Ulgyg580

>>11051998
Huh, i guess my mistake was trying it in another material quest without using a party that can complete the quest the normal way, because i couldn't get it to work for Yuugi.

Stupid question, but could someone tell me how I fullscreen. I just started playing and I can't seem to find an option for that.

>>11052088
Alt+Enter

>>11052100
Thanks

Ha, this is great. All after 1 quest. Guess it won't be that tedious after all to get everything.

>>11052205
I use it for the Rumia quest so that you don't have to wait 30000 days to collect orichalcum.

I got one of Hijiri's high level items from that Kedama group. I didn't even know they could drop that. They couldn't have dropped anything better too since Hijiri's item quest is by far the worst.

>>11051948
Most flexible (Satori) =/= absolutely essential (Byakuren)
Well, I'm glad you have your principles. Just keep updating us, I want to see your suffering later in the game. It will serve you right for disliking the best touhou.

>>11052555

>Just keep updating us

Huh. I'm used to people getting mad at those who "blogpost" on 4chan. I'll be happy to keep you updated then!

By the way, is Mokou supposed to fill a tanky role? Her damage seemed really low when I tried using her earlier. Then again Reimu's damage was terrible as well, so it might be an item issue.

>>11052555
I doubt he'll suffer, I beat the game without fielding Satori, just too much hassle to have her learn spells for everyone involved satori learns constrict.jpg

>>11052587
Geez, where's your reading comprehension? He will suffer from the lack of Byakuren's buffs, she's the "absolutely essetial" one. Satori is actually more of a burden in the last 3 stages due to poor IND scaling and lack of strong elemental attacks. But disliking her is still a crime and should be punished.

>>11052650

I'll give you some satisfaction already!

Doesn't seem impossible at all, but she's the biggest pain in the balls yet. Got past the first turn with everyone alive ONCE and had her at around 25% before she decided to go mental again. Hints are making me angry because this "trigger" doesn't exist at all.

>>11052571
>Her damage seemed really low when I tried using her earlier.

Mocool can deal pretty good damage if used at the right time.

What is the best way to get Steel? I'm running out of steel now that i have some actual high level material for armor.

Well, I can't say I understood the fight, but it went smoothly in the end! I'm guessing all these small-time boss fights are warming me up for something.

>>11052571
Mokou has some unnaturally high defenses in her growth. When Alice needs a shield and covers allies, Mokou can just take it to the face (but can't quite cover).
Mokou's damage is in her bombs, and keep in mind... Her attacks are physical! It uses her PATK and enemies' PDEF for calculation! This is quite rare and allows you to completely wreck some enemies as elemental damage is expected to be magical.

>>11053122
Prepare some +res and paralysis resistance for the latter half of the next dungeon.
Trust me.
You'll need it.

>>11053122
She shocks people, then instagibs shocked people. It's just like Momiji+Cirno.

>>11053155
>This is quite rare
Rare? This is how every non-magic user works in this game. Youmu, Sakuya, Aya, Nitori, Alice.
It doesn't matter what element some skill uses, if it has a fist in its icon then it's based on PATK.

>>11053163

I just got wiped to a 4-person petrify. Youmu heroically slaughtered 3 of them in the following turn, but to no avail. Bringing out Wind of Protection again!

>>11053167

Well yes, but there didn't seem to be a pattern at all, and it always took out 2 or 3 of us in the very first turn unless I just sacrificed Alice, which I did in the end.

Enemy conveniently decides to ignore bait Alice and attacks Satorin with a single hit skill she has not yet learned. Lucky lucky

>>11053260
Block it with Reimu and equip anti-shock/quick gear.

...not gonna lie, it's frustrating me that you're smashing through this game.

>>11053283

I don't mean to step on any toes with my silly tactic(yes I admit it), it's just a point of honor for me. Usually I would have been all for playing the game "properly", but this is actually a lot more funnerer.

I played this many months ago and ended up leaving it somewhere around Muenzuka (I guess that's not very far in).

I didn't really know what I was doing and I seem to have deleted the game since then so I guess I'll give it another shot from the start.

I'm bad at JRPGs in general so are there any beginner tips I should be aware of for this game? I mostly brute forced everything before.

So I have tried playing this game. Running the game natively seems to work perfectly fine, albeit in Japanese which I cannot read. Patching it up to 'Weekend' works fine as well. However when I try to apply the English translation .pak's the game will continues to crash to desktop instead. Obviously keeping the game from running in a playable manner.

Normally this shouldn't be an issue in the sense that I'd be perfectly capable of troubleshooting this. However this is perhaps the only Touhou game I've found that lacks any form of proper documentation. What little there is seems to be scattered amongst several different outlets which only makes things difficult/tedious. It goes without saying that I've made a mistake somewhere, but as to what is - I haven't the slightest clue.

>>11053491
I asked the same thing,

see
>>11050370

>>11053491
Oh and what is Satori supposed to do? She seems to get discussed a lot in these threads but I never used her much.

>>11053505
blue mage

>>11053501
What's the version of your game? What translation patch did you use? English patch from >>11044813 is for 3.01. If your game's version is 3.00 crashes are to be expected.
Just download the game from this link >>11044828. It worked fine for everyone.

>>11044828
>4 parts
>requires signup

>>11053530
I remember now why I stopped this game, I crashed often. Does 3.01 also fix the disappearing sprite glitch?

>>11053571
Hmm, let me check
http://translate.google.com.ua/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gensoukyou.org%2Fsupport%2Fupdate_1.html
>I can now avoid the phenomenon that the character can become a landscape this.
M-maybe...

>>11053571
crashing never happens in the newer patches. It was pretty unstable before. I think weekend is even better?

>>11053232
Yeah but Mokou's volcano does Fire damage.
To get a similar effect, you're gonna have to bring in Byakuren or Nitori. That's what I meant by rare.

>>11053530
Thanks. Issue was that the game wasn't patched to 3.01 as required per the translation patch. The patcher in question didn't actually work and I hadn't noticed, leaving the game in 3.0.

With that said, thanks for the download though probably should change the file provider to something like Mega. I'd say Mediafire, but they'd probably kill these files in a heartbeat. Mega doesn't give two shits though which makes them ideal. Makes it convenient for people who don't have proxy emails for the sole purpose of signing up for otherwise pointless crap, like 4shared required accounts.

>>11053272
Get its other Flare, the hit all bomb one.　It wrecks some serious shit.

>>11053854
I've got that some time ago already. It's always easier to learn multi-target spells with Satori since they will actually target her. After all, placing Satori in the bait position is mostly suicide against stronger enemies.

Also, i very much believe them when they said they increased the drop rates. I've been getting so much stuff since switching to Weekend.

I really gotta play this again.
What was that recording software someone mentioned in the last thread? Jing?

>>11054061
>placing Satori in the bait position is mostly suicide against stronger enemies.
Reminds me of the time when I was trying to get Bio from this bitch of a dragon.

What are Alice's three melee dolls weak to?

>>11054105
>jing
I've used it. From what I remember it was pretty decent. Think you have to have an account? Don't remember.

>>11053066
I'm getting quite a lot from the sea above the clouds (I think that's the name). Then again I'm using the patch

I remember coming across some detailed information on exact formation bonuses, but I can't for the life of the find it. Any help would be appreciated.

>>11053272
>>11054168
Is there a list somewhere of the enemy sprite references for this game? I know those two are very similar to Romancing SaGa monsters. I've seen a couple sprites that looked like Final Fantasy ones, but those might be pretty obvious to most people.

One of them I thought was really weird that was referenced seems to be the Terminator MkII boss, which looks just like terminators from the last part of Might and Magic 3. I can't find sprite rips of the monsters from the game on the web, so all I could find to show the similarity is a vid of some guy getting assraped by one on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOk2Zdvk1iI#t=12m30s

>>11054647
Just check the Touhou wiki, all the info is there.

>>11054696
The wiki has info about the sprites for some monsters, though it's mostly just for the higher level ones.

>>11055541
son of a bitch how did I miss that link. Japanese wiki says the info in unconfirmed but whatever.

Holy fuck, this was annoying to get. This thing shows up less often than the fucking Yukkuri.

As soon as I heard that accursed boss theme I knew this was going to suck. What is with this game and throwing irrationally silly bosses at you? I can hardly get past the first turn!

>>11055896
There's no trick, Tenshi is a powerhouse.

>>11055913
eh, with proper land manipulation, alice, and nuking I didn't find her to be that bad.

>>11055913

In that case, I'll put this off until I have a long free night to spend on it.

...that would be tonight I guess. I'll get pumped for it!

>>11055896
That's why I just cheese her out with Aya+Private Square with Sakuya equipping the Foreign God Killer sword.
Add in Byakuren Dark enchant + Attack buff = dead Tenshi in 3-4 turns. I hope you're not the "I don't use Byakuren" guy

>>11055932

I am indeed that guy.

>>11054696
Oh damn. Those guys from Ichigo Bose sure know their vidya.

>>11055937
I came here to laugh at you. Go on, try to beat everything without Byakuren.

>>11055734
What floor was this piece of shit on?

>>11056155

You'd better believe it! This is fun!

>>11056177
It's really rare though. I ran into the group that has 2 Yukkuri kings more often.

What is the fastest way to get enemies to respawn? I can't find any info about that on the wiki.

>>11056304
No one knows the details. Go in and out of a stage a bunch? Do that at the shrine and use the healing circle?


Is this the location the leaf shield mob is found? It seems like it should be as this is the east section but I've not had any luck.

anyone got a download link for weekend?

>>11056384
read the thread

>>11056358
nevermind, got it.

>>11055896

That took so much less effort than I thought it would have needed.

>>11056304
Ok it seems like enemies respawn if you walk into the Shrine healing circle and back to the overworld 3 times in a row.

This took way too long to get. Why do enemies have to despawn even if you run away in that dungeon? So fucking annoying. The only decent way to grind for specific items there is to save in the dungeon before fighting and F12 away everytime you didn't get the item from any encounter on the map.

>>11056639
Great. It takes me way over 1 hour to get that armor but the Yukkuri item drops in 20 minutes.

>>11056155
The real challenge mode of this game is beating the game without Alice.

Apparently, I'm lucky enough to get this from those ultra rare beetle enemies in just 1 try

Am I missing something, or are a lot of character specific weapons a waste materials?

Reimu's are balanced between physical and magic, but I've never needed to have her built for both at the same time, so it's more effective to use either a sword or staff.

Sanae does mediocre damage at best even when she's completely specced for it, and you need her more for buffs than anything else, so it seems you're better off giving her a good slayer or status effect dagger.

Byakuren is in the same boat as Sanae. I guess the barrier on her high tier scrolls is nice for keeping her alive without Alice in your party, but I've never needed to do that, so I've never crafted anything for her other than the +25 IND scroll.

Satori, Marisa, and Patchy can get more base magic attack from staves, as well as more additional magic attack from staff growth than of their specific weapons. I suppose getting more physical attack or mana regen can be nice early on, but by the mid game, I had more than enough MP to make it to healing circles while full clearing every map.

And then there's Alice, who never gets to do anything but cast parrar, hourai, or french dolls, so you might as well just stick your best defensive sword on her.

>>11056987
>are a lot of ... weapons a waste materials?
Yes.
Why are you making weapons for your casters?
You already know what's the point of Byakuren's weapons, and Satori's weapons have all kinds of stats on them which allows her to take any kind of role (even physical). And then there's Green Eyes which is perfect for poisoning.

>>11057008
Is the added % elemental damage for Satori's eyes applied only to her auto attack, or to everything she does?

>>11056987
Pretty much, Alice has an outlier in Rainbow greaves which gives her elemental resistances, but generally, the only party members that benefit greatly from new weapons in run are Youmu, Sakuya, Nitori, and Mokou.

>>11056987
You're missing something.

Reimu's gohei's give boosts to amulet and spirit damage, and usually some other nice effect. Worth it.
Sanae's snakes are for the status effects and occasionally the barriers and immunities. Might be worth it, if you bother giving her induction stuff, but probably not.
Byakuren's barriers are VERY nice, but only the induction scroll is really worth it imo.
Satori has some induction eyes which are great, and a poison boosting eye. Probably worth it.
Marisa brooms give endless mana and bombs. Worth it.
Patche's books are mandatory for physical Patche. Not worth it otherwise.
Alice's boots give excellent resistances to statuses, and the rainbow greaves are fucking amazing. Very worth it.

None of this takes into account unique weapon skill trees, which have some nice stuff in them.

>>11056987
Some weapons only really start to shine in that endurance dungeon near the end. Satori's final weapon can inflict control which is pretty good in there and Hijiri having 50 Divine Barrier + some magic reflect helps to keep her alive against all the stronger enemies in there without wasting all your defensive items on her.

Some weapons really offer little though. Aya never deals any good damage so all her weapon is good for is a little extra evade. Near the end of the game all she ever does if she is in your party is spam the reflect breath skill or use turn altering skills/fields. She could do that with any of her own weapons.

>>11056987
Several of Sanae's and Reimu's skills that come from the specific weapon tree are what make them good, as those skills are generally significantly more powerful or give significantly more utility than the default sword/axe/dagger/staff/lance tree skills.

also, you can build reimu/sanae to focus on attack, and their heals are still powerful enough to be worth bothering with.

Also, patchy's books are more useful when you build patchy to be a barbarian and beat stuff to death with the books.

they are fairly situational, yes, but the same is true for everything in that game, as the situation drastically changes from stage to stage, and even from trash to the boss.

>>11057018
Looks like physical abilities only, I couldn't do any damage to a tsukumogami with a light spell, even with +Voi damage.

>>11057060
Actually, that is inconclusive, as it 'adds damage' and thus added zero damage to an enemy immune.
My mistake

>>11057018
>>11057060
>>11057063
Did some further testing, damage was not increased with a spell.
Looks like the elemental bonuses on Satori's weapons are just a physical bonus, then again, the eyes do have considerably physical stats.

Where can you find Super Kedama again? It says Incident Level 1 in the records but i have no idea were that was supposed to be.

please help me
i finally managed to beat those 3 servants in the underwater temple but my game keeps crashing during the cutscene were your party gets back together
is there a way to fix this

>>11057718
Are you playing the most recent version?

>>11057783
its weekend version 3.01

I'm some way into the game and I just noticed I'm playing 3.0 instead of 3.01, is there any nasty bug waiting for me?

>>11057783
I remember a while back before weekend, there was some bug that kept the version number from displaying correctly after you updated it, is that still a problem with 3.01. Because I tried to apply the patch, and it still says 3.00.

>>11059266

if you still have issues, download the prepatched 3.01 version at the top of the page.

>>11057467
Well, found them at last. Also, how the hell is anyone supposed to know that enemies will cast Raise Dead on you if you use Hakurei Multiplex Barrier? That decoy effect seems to be mentioned nowhere in the game.

I started playing recently and I am curious, what are the roles for each character. i.e. what would their class be in a normal rpg.
I know satori is a blue mage type character who learns moves from enemies but I don't know what exactly the other characters are supposed to be.
Granted though I haven't gotten too far and have actually just started.

>>11060789
there should be a manual in the game folder with that type of info

>>11060789
The wiki has information about every character. It's usually pretty easy to guess what a character can do if you check their skills and growth.

>>11056856
Got this on my first try right now. Wish i always was this lucky.

Mighty Dragon has wasted so many of his 1999 MP that he can't do anything but attack anymore yet he still failed to kill anyone. What a failure of a dragon.

Is there any way to shuffle the quest board other than completing a quest?

>>11061444
I don't think so

This guy is surprisingly annoying with his dispel and physical resistance. At least I finally found use for Silent Selene!

He tried. Neat soundtrack though!

>>11061658
I can't wait to laugh at you at stage 18. Even if by some miracle you pass that stage, you're never gonna get pass the 3 bosses which still require a 3 party-split

>>11055734
Another annoying skill done. Trying to get control on that dragon is almost impossible, even with more than 200 IND + IND buff + 25% extra chance of mind control.

>>11061670

I eagerly anticipate the dangers of stage 18 then! And we'll see. I've gotten this far!

>>11061837
I've gotten all the way up to stage 18 without even using Alice so it's not as impossible as people think. This was during the earlier patches too. Stage 18 itself is also not that bad if you know what you are doing and do things not the way the game wants you to. The boss in 18 is another story though.

>>11061861

Sounds interesting really. Considering I have yet to see stage 18 I guess I don't really know what I'm doing, but I'll find out by tomorrow night!

>>11061861
>Stage 18 itself is also not that bad if you know what you are doing and do things not the way the game wants you to
I hope you are not recommending him to use one party for all 3 ways in stage 18. That's pathetic.

<- this is how I beat that stage.
Monster name - weaknesses/resists (special notes).
Upper left contains monsters from the 1st path, upper right - 2nd path, and lower left - the 3rd one.

>>11061939
It's pretty easy to see how to screw the game over once you see how the stage is set up.

>>11061969
It is the easiest way especially if you don't have important characters combat ready. The game either failed to anticipate that way or just left it open as an option. In the end, the boss itself can't be tricked like this so the game basically gives you the middle finger if you are not prepared enough as a result.

>>11061969

You do realize that by now everything outside my main 5 are at least 7 levels behind right? I don't have much choice but to use the same party for splits. I did the same for Eientei after all.

Is learning medoroa for Satori really that good? I've been resetting for 45 minutes now and haven't even seen the correct encounter.

>>11061997
Also, the game is sometimes randomly putting me back at the over world instead of the healing circle when I reset. Any idea what's causing this?

>>11061997
I'm assuming you are trying to get it from that powerful elemental enemy in the final dungeon. It's not important for the basic game and in the expansion Reimu's quest boss likes to use it a lot, so it's easy to grab there.

>>11061987
It's the easiest way similar to how getting Mokou and Byakuyren early is the easiest way to beat the first half of the game.

>>11061995
It infuriates me that people play this game like this. Enjoy never beating the final boss and/or bitching about grinding.

>>11061995
But what about your pride? So taking Satori in you party is against your principles, but abusing the game is not?
Well, good luck with the bosses.

>>11062110

But I won't be complaining if that happens. I've been warned that it will, and I'm looking to prove that it won't.

>>11062114

I'm not abusing the game per se. After all, they could have just made the party splits a one-time decision. I'm just using the tools provided to me.

>>11062150
Sure you are. It's in your toolbox to grind like a motherfucker to level 30 in the first dungeon too; is that not abuse?

But as long as you're enjoying yourself, I guess...

>>11062025
The game autosaves whenever you open the menu, enter the world map, and whenever a fight ends...or begins? I forget. Either way, whenever you load the game, it's loaded from the last save, save point or autosave, and if it was in the middle of a dungeon, it's back to the world map for you.

>>11062234
It's not saving after fights. I used that to hunt for items in the final dungeon. Fight all the enemies, then F12 back to the save point if no one dropped the item or you didn't find the right enemy at all. It does save everytime you close the menu though.

>>11062212

It's not abuse, but I personally would call it a bland and stupid way to play the game. I've got a point to prove, and if I can do that, it's just a bonus alongside playing this wonderful game. So I guess I will be enjoying myself at some point.

>>11062353
...huh. Weird.

Soon Satorin will know every skill. Nothing can stop her.

>>11043111

fuck off nerd what's the point in having a thread about something if you don't say what it is

>>11061969
Oh hey this is just what I needed

>>11062566

Are you implying something?

Well, this only took forever

I wonder what that was all about.

Funny, I was actually thinking throughout the entire stage that these two would fight together at some point.

Time for this infamous stage 18!

>>11066301
Hm... You used to make screenshots of the party you were using to defeat the boss (for example in >>11053122 and >>11055896). But now you just post the cutscenes after the boss fight. I'm getting suspicious here. Is it because there is someone in your party you don't want to show us? Someone you promised to never use?

How good are Mokou glove weapons later on? Wondering because I'm deciding between dumping some points into DPS (if they are suboptimal) or otherwise placing them elsewhere for some added durability/utility.

>>11066368

You make a good point actually, I didn't really pay attention myself. I guess it's because you can't really tell who I was fighting in for example >>11053122 although I guess you could have gathered from the preceding screenshot.

>>11066451

And for comparison. I'll be sure to screenshot my party from now on!

>>11066411
They are good because Mokou has a glove growth point that allows her to attack twice with any physical attack sometimes, which includes all her powerfull physical skills. They also have nice effects like more bombs and crit. No slayer effects though.

>>11066411
There OK, but nothing on Mokou compares to zero cooldown fujiyama when you're using kusanagi.

>>11066495
The 2x chance of inflicting status is nice as well. That may taper off as the game goes on though, I wouldn't know. I really need to get around to planning my attack to stage 18. Wiping all sides as one team sounds easier but I want to make the team thing work.

The game has fucking Godzilla as a miniboss yet he is so weak...

Judging by the item description and some of the comments in this and the last thread, Kusanagi is a pretty alright item to craft. Who should I give it to when I finally make it, and where's a decent place to farm Orichalcum shards?

>>11069908
Youmu or Mokou are the most popular choices.
There isn't a good place to farm shards until the post-game. It's chests or bust, and there's a shard of each hidden in most stages beyond and including Youkai Mountain Peak.

>>11069950

You don't say... I guess I'll be heading back to search for those if the stage 18 boss turns out to be too much of a pain!

It took forever to find the one enemy who can drop it but he dropped it on the first try. It would really help if the game actually told you on which floor enemies spawn and not just the level.

A pain in the ass indeed. I have no clue where to go, and my memory is awful, so I never remember where I went to get where I left off. This might take a while.

>>11071328
Oh yeah, without a doubt.
Welcome to the endgame, and it's a damn good one.

...mostly.

>>11071364

My palms are sweating, my brow is furrowed, I'm squinting at my screen, and I'm angry as hell. If this boss is as bad as people have been indicating it is, something might go wrong somewhere.

>>11071378
Not boss. 3 BOSSES.
Which also require 3 party splits to fight each

I just started this game, any tips I need to be aware off? There is quite alot of parameters in growths, weapon, and spell variations...

>>11071378
My advice...
Don't fight everything, as hard as it is to dodge stuff in Lakebed's cramped confines. Also run liberally. I've found that no matter how I build my three parties, there'll always be monsters or groups of monsters that I can't effectively fight...so I don't.
Don't just run into the one-time use save points; see if you can make some more progress before using them.
The middle party will reach the end of their path first, and thus has early access to a real save point. The left party will reach the end last, I'd guess.

>>11071378
Something will ALWAYS go wrong.
And yeah, that particular boss is absolute horseshit.

>>11071408

You um... aren't serious, right?

If you are, this is going to be the biggest pain in the cunt I have ever faced. I guess I should have learned from Eientei, but if they're as weak as Reisen and Tewi were, it'll be a breeze.

Anyways, if I kill all the enemies here and refrain from stepping in a circle, they won't respawn, correct?

>>11071436
Putting points in stuff isn't permanent. You can mix them around as much as you want, whenever you want.

>>11071460
Think of it as facing a watered down monotheistic god trilogy.

>>11071460
>You um... aren't serious, right?
I'm pretty sure he is serious.
Good luck killing one of the bosses using your lvl33 Satori without any useful skill and lvl29 Byakuren.

>>11071468

Sounds easy enough.

>>11071472

No sweat, just watch me!

>>11071460
Oh I'm dead serious. And here's a really old screenshot after the bossfights. Blowfish, Squid, and Shellfish respectively. The squid is the real problem.

>>11071460
He's serious.
Three bosses, three parties. Two are fine with stable strategies, and aren't to tough if you know what to do and/or have made your daily sacrifice to the RNG gods.
But this octopus...this fucking octopus...

>>11071496

Duly noted. I'm just killing everything in every path now for exp and easy progression when I'm finally moving on.

>>11071496
>lvl37

damn. Also I wonder what kind of items that Sakuya was packing.

>>11071436
The one thing you should be aware of is that that it's not always important to have every character's most recent weapon. Generic weapons can often be better than character specific weapons. Don't waste your materials on weapons that sound useless. If Sanae doesn't attack, don't waste items to make her a weapon with strong physical attack.

>>11071553
Thanks! I played rpg before. I always tend to waste time making every character up to snuff. This would save time.

Any benefits on normal mode vs Easy Mode?

>>11071641
Just the difficulty. Nothing else

>>11071641
normal: piss blood
weekend: all's cool

>>11071540
Yeah. Reimu is the most underleveled character of mine at that point of the game. I completely forgot Sakuya's stuff but I do remember fighting the blowfish with 2 Private squares with Byakuren enchant+attack buff.

>>11071641
Turn easy mode off immediately.

Whew, that only took an eternity. Let the true pain commence, I guess!

>>11072050
Should've put Mokou against the poison chick

That feeling when you keep getting more character materials even though you don't need any of them anymore...

All i want is steel and materials for steel. Why can there be a quest for gold but not for steel?

>>11072078

I'm just trying them one by one for now. Got one down at least! Technically not using Byakuren, as she died in the first turn.

Even on Easy Mode my weaker girls (15 levels below my regulars) die to stage 17's common enemies. The exp is still pretty good, though.

>>11071540
Now I remember Sakuya's equips.
It's PATK +10 & 20 and MP +40 with the Aquatic slayer sword

And another. I assume this last one is the squid, and the sensation of doing well will fade soon.

>>11072209
Also Sakuya was LVL 52. The highest in my party in this stage of the game

>>11072210
If you die in any of them, you start from the beginning. Also, you're screwed now if Nitori was in the 2nd fight

>>11072222

I know, I've already failed several times. Squidgirl kicked our shit in one turn and I'm now going to bed while trying to come up with a decent tactic.

>>11072166
>>11072210
Oh man, seeing these bosses again, almost makes me want to play GoS again just to see how easily I can demolish them, now that I have such insight in the game.

So i downloaded this from the 4shared link.

And it doesn't work. Run as admin. run as admin with jp locale. Always get's the same crash

>>11073475
Mind taking a screencap. I used the same one two days ago and it worked fine.

>>11072323
Does physical Satori actually work?

>>11073489

There's not really much to screencap. As soon as it starts up it get's a "has stopped working" prompt.

>>11073534
It does, it's no Youmu, however, and you're very lightly armored.

>>11073475
Did you unzip it with jp locale?

Well, that was a cakewalk. Let's see if I can actually make Reimu do some damage on her side now.

I cannot believe what I've just done.

I defeated all 3 of them and went for a screenshot. I pressed F12 instead of PrtScn. I'm slightly upset, but it turns out these guys are actually really easy to defeat. Way to work me up over nothing guys!

>>11075192
>>11075338
Wait, wait, wait, what?

>>11076212

What's up?

>>11075338
I'm sure you used Byakuren/Satori and used the "I used F12 rather than Prtsc excuse to avoid screenshots

>>11076520
I'm sure the game doesn't autosave itself right after the boss fight - you need to wait until the cutscene ends. So if he was telling the truth he had to redo the fight one more time.

>>11076520

I have screenshots of poison girl and shell-chick if you'd like them. I was planning on making a collage of all 3 when I'd actually gotten a screenshot of squid-girl. Obviously I'll have to do the bosses over, so I'll get one soon.

Where the hell does this guy spawn again? I want his item but i can not find him. I've been walking around pretty much everywhere but i am not running into it.

>>11076889
I think it's in cursed Muenzuka. The one I'm really sure of is the quest to get Mokou back.

>>11076624

Maybe soon was a bit of an overstatement. I suddenly hit a massive wall of shit RNG that's keeping me from taking down the poison cunt. My hate for girls with glasses was immense before, but now I feel like I might actually scream at the next person with this feature that I see. Whoever's in my hearing range must now think I'm insane or have Tourette's.

Not just that though. The few times that I've gotten through her these past 4 hours have been completely ruined by some other form of insane anomalous RNG activity.

Why did I have to misclick?

>>11076954
I can't find it there. I was hoping the japanese wiki might actually say more but nope, just more 異変レベル2 when the fish is mentioned.

>>11077386
oh wait never mind
>地下５階－Ｍ・・・異変レベル2

Their walkthrough actually mentions that, yet their bestiary does not.

>>11073475
Set compatibility mode to XP.
Rename any foreign files to english, like the application.

>>11076571
It doesn't. Only after you've regained control can you save. Pretty sure there is a Help! book floating around too that explains when the game can be saved.

>>11077386
Muenzuka

>>11077176
the glasses one? Really? Mokou and/or Sakuya should wipe the floor with her. Or do you need them for the other battles in your inane challenge?

What commander does everyone prefer to use? Something I've been curious about.

>>11077531
Aya. Combined with Sakuya equals really easy fights

>>11077498

Yeah, I use Mokou and Sakuya for her, and she was always the guaranteed one-try fight of the three, but all of a sudden she started doing 1000 Needles on the first and second turn almost every time, and Mokou's refusal to crit also didn't help.

Pretty sure I just had insanely bad luck tonight. Finishing this nonsense tomorrow.

>>11077592
I haven't seen how 1000 needles work due to my Private square method. What does it do exactly?

>>11077603
Kills you.

>>11077592
Play around a bunch in the menu and screw up the RNG.

>>11077603
It deals that much damage.
Defense still works if I recall, but the damage is still too high.

How long does it take for monsters to respawn again in dungeons? Or whats the method?

>>11077720
Enter some dungeons and use healing circles, even the hakurei shrine should suffice.

Dodge-tanking aya with leaf shield is pretty fun

I cleared most of the Magic Forest dungeon and I'm here and can't progress any farther. Is this a dead end or is there some kind of tunnel to the upper right that I'm not seeing? Where do I have to go?

>>11078612
Pretty sure this is right. Can't get there from your location. Go right a screen and then go where I marked.

>>11078234
The true horror of Lakebed Temple.

I got wiped at first, so I just went and bought some non-shit weapons and she melted. Moku did 11,000+ dmg one turn and Sakuya got her last word and two 3-turn private squares. Overkill.

Now to get destroyed by the other two. At least I keep the experience if I lose.

>>11078746

>>11078755
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

>>11078849
Is that some Byakuren I see there?

>>11078627

Found it. Thx anon.

If the mist is disabling the youkai, the how can the mobs fight?

>>11079082
it's Patchy with extensions and edgy clothes

>>11079082

For the record, that guy is not me, the non-Satori/Byakuren person. I only just got up and I am now preparing for some more killing.

Also bump limit. Anyone want to create a new thread?

>>11080266
Will do once this is nearly out of /jp/

>>11080384

Lovely!

And here's the final result. As I thought, yesterday was just a fluke.

>>11080468
How much damage did Youmu do on that boss. I remember that boss has 600 PDEF + elemental barrier making the mystic element the only element she has no resistance to.
Captcha: into titylab

>>11080481
>>saging in a bump limit thread

>>11080481

She didn't do much. I just put her there because she was the only one left apart from Sakuya who could reliably tank her attacks. Slash of Eternity did some 1k+ combos with the crit enhance buff though, and I just didn't even care about the element shield.

New thread
>>11080555