/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>10977699
fuck you with your advertising.

second for hot tears

3nd for cave's 12rd death

Turns out you can only get 30 extends max in Double Dealing, after that the counter breaks and the game just stops giving you any more.

Does practicing with SA Boss Rush mod count as cheating when you've unlocked all stages for practice mode anyway?

>>10978695
No. Nothing counts as cheating if you're just practicing, so abuse everything and anything to improve your overall skills.

whats the best game

>>10978695
yes using hacks is cheating

>>10978695
no full runs is the only way you should be practicing, never EVER use stage practice or boss practice, just spam credits.

>>10978695
You're literally worse than Hitler.

Gensokyo anymore, seemingly. Same person. Reimu wasn't a man to drink piss off, then I mena, Inganock had a theif and that everybody told me to run around almost every thread. Do not 1cc all over others? If you can actually leave this type ipconfig in a festival, but not have your posts? This is on lunatic right away.

It seems some extra stage are cute.

>>10978931
I like team Reimu more because team Marisa looks like a bunch of guys in cosplay.

>>10978941

team reimu also has the advantage of not including nitori

>>10978941

also team reimu has the all powerfull yukaris concentration shot

>>10978931
what is reimu doing

>>10978969
Drinking tea

What's this spellcard's trick?

>>10979014
Dodge? There's no trick

>>10979014
Picking laser Marisa

>>10979014
you can't beat stage 1?

>>10979014
Move left and right.

>>10979014
Keep shooting until she gives up.

>>10979014
I like to press X.

>>10979039
my black friend.

>>10979014
BOMB

>>10979014
You have to move up from the bottom of the screen and go inside.

>>10979014
Can't be bothered explaining, so just watch and copy this replay instead. The spell is just memo shit. It's harder than it's lunatic counterpart though, not like that's saying much.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=28579

Day 2 of trying to 1cc EoSD on Lunatic

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=28580

I've practiced the first three stages a fair bit, but this was only my second time seeing Stage 4 and anything beyond it. I'm quite proud of how well I handled Stage 4 considering that.

I bombed a little excessively during Patchy, but I'll just get better over time.

One thing that's surprising me is Cirno's very first non-spell. On Normal and Hard, it's easy enough to just go around those bullet clumps, but on Lunatic they're simply too wide, too fast, and there's too many of those other bullets to completely maneuver AROUND them. However, I have no idea how to maneuver THROUGH them.

Any tips or suggestions for how I'm playing?

>>10979135
Thanks for taking your time to make a replay and everything, but I think I'm just going to bomb this one. I almost managed to capture it a couple times using your way, but no cigar. Even if I did, I would just die 9 times out of 10 when doing a run, retry and never get any progress done.

1ccing UFO on hard seems like it will be a long, difficult and tedious journey. SA was much easier.

>>10979282
Misdirect the first shot to either left or right, let her shoot the second one in the center and then just dodge it at one of the sides where it's not as thick and just stay there and let her shoot the third one directly at you, usually just a sigle tap to one of the sides is enough to evade it since it has wide gaps.
At least that's how i like to do it.

Or you can just use the safestop behind her lika a pussy.

>>10979350
*safespot

>>10978741
akai katana

>>10979349

>1ccing UFO on hard seems like it will be a long, difficult and tedious journey.

UFO is, by far, the most difficult game to 1cc on Hard. It's true that the game gives you a lot of resources, but collecting those resources poses some major risks and the game itself is just fucking hard anyway.

By the time I managed 1cc UFO on Hard, I had over 35 hours of playtime on that game alone.

Would you care to see the replay?

>>10979350

>usually just a sigle tap to one of the sides is enough to evade it since it has wide gaps.

Maybe at the corners this is easier to do. I tried evading them in the center, and the very first volley always got me. The gaps are not very wide at all.

Thanks for the suggestion, though; I'll give it a shot.

I'm downloading 6-13 now.
I've had previous experience playing rRootage and Sin and Punishment 2. What can I expect?

>>10979591
Download 1-5 too

>>10979597
I will do if I enjoy 6-13 enough.

>>10979585
You're not supposed to dodge the first volley head on, only the third one.

Post your favorite spell card

>>10979708
Keine's final

Are there any danmaku patterns/spellcards that are impossible to dodge?

>>10979737
I think there was some in Futari 1.00 ultra mode

>>10979737
Yes, that is why you have bombs.

>>10979737

Not in the canon games.

>>10979737
A lot of stuff in Fairy Wars and some Shoot the Bullet cards are impossible to dodge. In the normal games I can only think of the bullet curtains that fall on you if you don't time out Momiji.

There's probably more.

How do you lunatic 1ccers prefer to grind out practice, sound-wise?

1. All sounds on
2. Music turned off
3. All sounds off
4. Unrelated music (MP3 player etc)


I just remembered most of my best achievements were reached when I had music turned off, or I was listening to some relaxing zen type music.

You're shit mate. UFO hard took me like 4 hours to beat. It's nowhere near the hardest. I would consistently have max lives near the start of stage 4, which would mean I could start collecting bombs early thus making the game a cake walk. The patterns are among the easiest the learn in UFO too.

>>10979894
Meant for
>>10979572

>>10979737
Cirno's random ass bullets in EoSD sometimes.

>>10979767

I still wonder if those FW gold medals are possible on Lunatic, even if it requires a non-human player.

I can post my address if someone could come to my house and 1cc remilia for me on hard. Would anyone be willing to do that?

>>10979894
I cleared DOJBL on my fifth credit - a total of two hours played. A few throwaway runs ending on 1-3, 1-4, 1-2(lmbo) and 1-5, I was able to get through it no problem whatsoever.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, 1ccing is meaningless. People should never be struggling to 1cc for anymore than a week or so, and that's if they're completely new to the genre.

>>10979898
I recall seeing a TAS on nicovideo awhile back, it's possible.

>>10979916
Please. I'm desperate.

>>10979916
>>10979965
How is someone beating the game for you going to help you in any way?

>>10979935
>People should never be struggling to 1cc for anymore than a week or so

Tell me your secret to 1ccing TH11 lunatic, I've been at it for a few days now.

Day 1: Can only make it to stage 4
Day 2: lucky if I make it to stage 4
Day 3: I barely made it to stage 4

despite this, I beat the 1st and 2nd stage in practice mode without deaths or bombs, and the 3rd stage with 1 bomb used. I don't get it. I just fuck up those 1st 3 stages too much to even begin to progress

>>10979975
I don't want help with my ability to play the game, I want the game beaten

>>10979981

Find a score.dat and download it, I guess?

>>10979981
Why do you want the game beaten so badly?

>>10979981
dude what the fuck is wrong with you

>>10979986
>>10979988
>>10979989
If I told you why I need it beaten you wouldn't believe me

>>10979873
I usually have the game BGM off, SFX on with unrelated music or videos playing in the background that I listen to. Sometimes BGM on, if I feel like it.

>>10979994
I'll believe you. I promise

>>10979873

I haven't played the games with the default BGM in years. Sound effects on, mp3s playing in the background.

>>10980002
I promised my friend that I would beat it. I hate lying.

>>10979994
Does it involve drugs, alcohol, betting, or some combination of the three?

>>10980010
Then go do it instead of taking the loser route and lying. It's not difficult to do.

>>10980010
That should give you every incentive to try your hardest to beat the game fair and square.

>>10980010
something tells me that your posts aren't serious

>>10980010
You'd still be lying if another person beat it for you though.

That makes no sense.

Stop being nonsensical.

You're a silly person.

Go away, liar.

Liar, liar, pants on fire.

>>10980010
get good shmup fundamentals and then 1cc everything on your first try

When going for a run in which your only goal is to win, is it a good idea to use bombs when there's even the slightest possibility of death? I'm really bad at doing it, and I need to know if it's the right choice so I can start making a habit. Thanks in advance

>>10980052
im a noob (only 2 lunatic 1CCs to my name, 7 and 10). I managed those runs by bombing up the ass, not conserving them.

>>10980052
Yes, absolutely yes, if your goal is pure survival, then use your bombs willy nilly.

You also end up playing much better if you play without any bombs in stock as you play fully knowing you have no option, but to play well since you have no bombs.

>>10980027
Not him but what are good shmup fundamentals?
Will playing random rRootage levels and such I don't know a lot make me able to freestyle other danmaku?

>>10980067
>Not him but what are good shmup fundamentals?
hold shift for focused movement

>>10980067
Shmup Fundementals is the new STG thread flavor of the month meme. Ignore it.

>>10980067
Fundamentals is a full understanding of shooting games as a whole, an ability to understand the game in only a few credits. You get good shmup fundametals by playing them more.

>>10980067
Fundamentals are the basics.

Good basics is really just good approach.

A person with good basics/fundamentals/approach figures out the patterns, thinks up strategies for what he should do during certain parts, and doesn't panic.

Such a person goes through gaps instead of dodging bullets spastically and hitting another bullet that wasn't even near him.

Such a person simply bombs instead of wondering if he should then getting killed for his hesitation.

Such a person actually thinks about what he does wrong instead of wondering why he isn't getting better.

>>10979349
I need about 3 months to beat it.
Does lunatic easier than hard just like people said? I haven't really into it because already intimidated on stage 1.

What type of keyboard do you guys use for 2hu?

I can handle normal difficulty without much trouble if I have a gamepad (although mine has unfortunately broken), but I'm lucky to even get past stage 4 on easy when I use a keyboard. I dunno if it's a matter of having to get used to it or if my keyboard is just shit. Whenever I try to do minute movements on my keyboard I end up going way further than I want to and I find navigating through tight spots or complex patterns to be incredibly awkward to the point where it's near impossible.

>>10980575
A Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 tenkeyless with cherry red switches keyboard.

>>10980575
It sounds like you don't know how to tap. For a simple trick, if you really find you can't move a bit left or right as precisely as you need to, then simply hold down and move diagonally which is slower. This can even be done at the bottom of the screen giving you sort of a superfocus there.

You might possibly have input lag actually. Though I don't believe that can happen with a wired keyboard, if it's wireless maybe.

Generally any keyboard performs exactly the same unless it's a crappy one which has an issue hitting multiple buttons. Button placement may also factor.

Though, I prefer laptop keyboards since the buttons are flatter. It's more often than not though that laptop keyboards have the crappy not reading multiple button inputs issue.

>>10980575
I use an arcade stick because I am not a filthy plebeian.

>>10980575
Learn to tap. And if I were you, I'd pick up a better keyboard with anti-ghosting and cherry switches.

I couldn't even bomb and shoot at the same time with my first keyboard.

>>10980594
I've been considering getting a mechanical keyboard for a while now, but it's quite an investment for a NEET to make so I've been holding off.

>>10980595
Ah, thanks for that 'superfocus' tip, I hadn't thought of that. Should come in handy.

My big problem is that on a gamepad I can quite easily make circular movements, but they controls on keyboard feel really jerky to me and I can't emulate that same fluid movement that I can get when using a gamepad. Is that just me being inept or a limitation of keyboards?

>>10980640
Good thing Touhou isn't about making circles, then. It's about dodging bullets.

>>10980595
>>10980619
Forgot to ask, what exactly do you mean by "tap"? Just lightly press the key down as quickly as possible? Because that's what I'm been trying to do, with little success, so I guess that isn't what you mean.

>>10980642
Having that smooth range of movement helps me dodge though.

>>10980650
If you're more comfortable on a pad, use a pad. I use a Dualshock exclusively and have cleared Lunatic on most games.

>>10980650
It's when you press the key and release it real quick so you only move a tiny bit. A tap. You usually do this repeatedly to get through narrow stuff. It's pretty hard on normal keyboards, since you have to press down the whole key before it responds.

>>10980650
You don't tap softly. You tap fast. Keyboards don't care about the strength of your button pressing.

Also yes, keyboards sacrifice fluidity for precision. While gamepads offer fluid control, keyboards offer precise control. It's easier to make minimal movements with a keyboard which is really helpful for more dense bullets.

How far are you going with a tap? And what character and game are you playing?

A couple of screenshots with your original position and position after attempting to tap may give us a better idea of how far you're moving with a single one.

>>10980730
>It's pretty hard on normal keyboards, since you have to press down the whole key before it responds.
That might be my problem then.

>>10980770
Here's original position.

>>10980770
>>10980816
Focus tap.

>>10980770
>>10980816
>>10980819
And an unfocused tap.

>You don't tap softly. You tap fast. Keyboards don't care about the strength of your button pressing.
Yeah, that's what I meant to say but I worded it poorly, sorry.

>>10979014
ther isa trik iff u pres th X u winn :===)

God. UFO is such a fucking GARBAGE easy game. It makes me sick to even see people discussing it seriously.

I think I'm going to leave the NA community again until discussion of this utter trash game passes.

>>10980642
You won't make hi-score without it on UFO Hard/Lunatic. Also IN Extra, but doing Ichirin supergraze still the hardest one.

>>10980826
Not as tiny as it could be, but that doesn't seem too particularly over movement.

>>10980826
>>10980892
By the way original position is bottom, focused movement is middle, and unfocused is top.

I'm doing this on a laptop keyboard which might be a notable difference.

>>10980868
>You won't make hi-score without it on UFO Hard/Lunatic.
I'll try not to lose too much sleep over that, then.

>>10980851
yeh its pretty shit m8
the fuckking westrn 2hu fanbase has shit t8st

UFO is just too easy once you get good at collecting the ufos and gathering resources. Stage four is just about getting lives.

>>10980916
Get lives, bomb everything. Trivial ass patterns for two inch boys as well, what a garbage game.

h-here i go...
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=28587

>>10981064
I watched some of it. You did good with your bombs. But other than that you seem too slow. Are you drunk?

>>10981170
no, i'm just bad at video games

>>10981064
you're moving needlessly a lot

>>10979135
how the hell is it harder than lunatic

that makes no sense are you even reading what you are typing

>>10982791
>>10982791
Sometimes, ZUN forgets to test stuff.

>>10982791
>>10982812
That card is much harder on lunatic.

>>10982791
>>10982824
But there are spellcards that are easier on higher difficulties.

>>10982791
Are you new? There are numerous cards that are harder on lower difficulties than the lunatic version.

What's the trick to nailing this one? I fail it 80% of the time.

>>10984432
i just move side to side unfocused with marisa, no that hard actually.

>>10984432
I fucking love that spellcard. No tricks or gimmicks, just hard fast dodging, it's really fun. Realize that you can go like 9a pixels deep into those bullets.

>>10984432
learn to dodge

>>10984462
Speaking of which, which one of Marisa's shot type is the best in SA? Alice has spread focus, Patchouli is really hard to comprehend and use effectively, and Nitori has a terrible bomb.

I wanna use Marisa, but all of her shots suck.

>>10984462
Staying unfocused the entire time helps, I capped it on the 1st attempt when trying it that way. Thanks.

>>10984467
All right, thanks.

>>10984476
Okay, I'll try!

>>10984480
I use Nitori for fast 1CC, I just bomb the spells I have some chance of not capturing, I usually still capture them and I get 0.5 of the bomb, you'll end with a fuckton of lives it feels like cheating but fuck that.

>>10984480

Alice is probably the best but she's hard to use effectively due to her weirdness. Patchouli you can probably stick to a straight shot but it's pretty much a worse Reimu A that way. I had the same problem as you, a lot of shot types were either weird or crappy.

>>10984432
That card wasn't so hard for me, but I also had prior experience dealing with fast bullets in other STGs.

The spell patterns in SA are so pretty. Probably the most beautiful in the series. It's a shame that I'm not good enough to play on anything above easy in SA.

I'm trying to 1cc my first touhou game on normal. Here's a link to a replay http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=28596.. If any experienced players could be kind enough to give me ANY critiquing on my gameplay, I would appreciate that very much. I can get to Kaguya every time I play, but I can never beat her because I don't have enough lives or bombs. I'll be here all day. Thank you in advance to any advice.

/blog

I've been trying complete a no-bomb no-death run in Touhou 11's stage 3 for about 4 hours total so far. This is the best I've gotten so far:

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=28598

Tips appreciated.

(pre-boss portion of the level: 40 attempts)
(full level from start to finish: 50 attempts)

>>10984718
The patterns are in general more aesthetically pleasing on easy, you're not missing much.

>>10984760
Nevermind, I did it. I'm not even going to attempt to make sense of the good ending's story

>>10984912
good job. now go beat the extra stage.

>>10984912
>Player Penalty*0.2

>>10984974
I wasn't quite sure what that meant, but I'm assuming it's because I chose the 5 life option. The score doesn't bother me that much, because I'm not good enough to be worrying about score yet.

>>10984987
Beating the game witout using any continue with more lives than default is not considered a 1cc.

>>10985004
Oops. Looks like I'll be going for that next then.

>>10985011
Do your best.

>>10984912
>Player Penalty*0.2
>1cc

Yeah, no.

>>10985041
Thanks for the post.

>>10985041
IT BEGINS

>>10985041
you could at least read the thread

Has there ever been a team composition/girl that is completely game-breaking? when I say that, I mean having a bomb/shot that's so good that it makes the game a joke

>>10984813
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>>10985090
But really though, that's quite funny. I like it.

>>10985083
Aya in pofv.

>>10985083
Reimu with homing shot

Also Marisa B in MoF when you're between 3.0 and 4.0 power.

>>10984718

I like how they look, but despise actually playing against them.

>>10985083
MarisaB in MoF.
C-S in DoDonPachi
Aya, Reimu(pvp), Medicine Eiki(pvp) in PoFV
Youmu in TD
MarisaB in DDC
Miyamoto in Battle Garegga.

I miss when Marisa shot pinetrees at the enemies. ;_;

What is the best Touhou fangame?

>>10985124
im glad im not the only one that sees the pine trees

>>10984480
Playing MarisaA, play the stage focused and the boss unfocused to utilize MarisaA most effectively. It is however best to switch to focused to deal with ghost fairies during Orin at times.

Playing MarisaB, switch to watershot for the stage, and fire shot for bosses. The other shots have some use during Parsee, but generally you'll find them useless except for earthshot(the one that shoots straight behind you) against Orin.

Playing MarisaC, learn to bomb whereever you think you have a chance of dying. This can be nigh-impossible for some people. Also if you have decent enough reflexes to deathbomb, then there's literally no reason not to use ReimuA instead.

>>10985124
I'd add:
MarisaC in SA
SakuyaA in DDC
SanaeB in UFO
Magic team's Malice canon in IN

>>10985139
touhouvania 1 and 2

>>10985161
The fairy/slave in Raiden Fighters Jet is also really strong.

>>10985159
>Also if you have decent enough reflexes to deathbomb, then there's literally no reason not to use ReimuA instead.
Except that Nitori's shot type can sometimes put you into the shielded state when you deathbomb instead of just clearing the screen.

>>10985161
None of those are game breaking other than Sakuya A

>>10985168
Do people really like Touhouvanias?
The arts are great, but overall I didn't really have fun playing the game, I don't recall getting the motivation to play it past Stage 3, too boring.

>>10985211
I thought Touhouvania was boring as hell and I'm a huge Castlevania fan.

>>10985211
They're alright. I'd rather play Bloodlines or CV1 or 3 if I'm going to play a CV game.

I wouldn't mind playing Touhouvania SoTN. SoTN might not be a true Castlevania game, but it's really good for taking it easy, I'll give it that.

>>10985191
It's cool kinda when you deathbomb and hear the death sound twice. Or not because you lost the shield.

>>10985161
>MarisaC in SA
>SakuyaA in DDC
Could you explain?

Also SanaeB and Malice cannon aren't really game breaking.

>>10985161
>Malice cannon
>better than border team

>>10985161
Heh. I just now got it. Malice cannon. Marisa-Alice cannon.

>>10985266

I can't use Border Team worth a crap. I think I'm some sort of freak of nature.

>>10985273
Heheheheheheheheh

heh

>>10985273
I wonder if that was an intentional pun from the creator

>>10985305
How is that even possible? One of the reasons they're so overpowered is that you DON'T need to know how to use them to wreck.

Sanae isn't a playable character in DDC. That pretty much confirms that she will never appear in another game again, right?

>>10985589

I have no clue. I do okay with the Reimu part but the Yukari part seems to throw me off. I just use Scarlet team.

Will Reimu ever get a break

>>10985593
If anything, she might be playable if ZUN ever decided to let out another Phantasmagoria game. Knowing tasofro, they'll toss her in the new fighter whenever they decide to release an expansion for it.

>>10979873
I always keep the sounds on, since I need them for timing cues and it generally sounds good. As for music, sometimes I turn off game music and play some unrelated music.

>>10984773

(continued)

Okay, I've played SA stage 3 to the end 70 times now and I still can't get through without dying.

I find 90% of my deaths are from the red diagonal lasers immediately before the boss fight. Even if I do tons of vertical dodging I seem to either get hit by a laser I didn't see, or I get trapped one of the blue orbs.

If I manage to survive the level and most of the boss fight, I end up dying to the "Mt Ooe" spellcard.

>>10985882

I finally just beat it. Took over 70 tries

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=28603

>>10985124
Reimu invented pine trees
Marisa is dirty thief
magician scum

>>10985139
Danmakufu

>>10985266
to be fair, cards like ephemerality 137 that are quite difficult to dodge with border team are made trivial by malice cannon

livestream.com/touhougameplay
I have no clue how long I'm willing to stream. Be prepared for anything.

I guess I'll ask here, rather than start a new thread. Is anybody else having trouble getting the TH14 demo to work?

>>10987047
what's the point? You're already several days behind, there's no way your score can catch up to the superplayers who started on day 1

So my laptop can only respond to 2 or 3 keys being pressed at a time, which means I can't bomb while I'm weaving and I can't move diagonally, I know I should ask /g/ about this, but is there a way to turn off the limit?

>>10985139
Labyrinth+

Do you recognize yourselves?

>>10987363
Yes.

good morning

>>10987363
w-why am i all alone :(

>>10987380
Good morning man. *morning hug*

>>10987401
hey d00d
*morning sickness*

>>10987407
Get well soon so I can give you a hug too

>>10987363
What is any of this

>>10987422
It's what happens beyond these STGs thread.

>>10987363
That on the left, is that shmupsfarm?

>>10987451
Yes.

Which traditional touhou game has the best storyline? (Meaning no picture or fighting games)

>>10987682
The one where Reimu beats up all the lolis is best.

>>10987682

fuck off

>>10987692
You mean Marisa

>>10987682
touhou has no storyline

>>10987682
ZUN seems to be trying to connect everything past 10 together with religion wars. I wish he would just go back to silly dot dodging and explosions and frilly dresses and grazing.

DoDonPachi is the best game with a story.

>>10987730
I thought a lot of the jokes in SA were funny, especially Marisa's. He did a great job with every aspect of SA but god damn is it hard

>>10987740
It isn't too tough on Normal if you're used to shooting games. Orin might be a roadblock for beginners at first, but just practice it a little. After all, it's only Normal.

Lunatic is a step up from Normal, but it still isn't really too bad. In all, it took me about 15 or so in-game hours of practice. Roughly the same amount of time it took me to 1-ALL Ketsui. Of course, I've never bothered playing for score in SA, so I wouldn't know how difficult scoring is.

I'm paranoid about "ghost bullets"

>>10987769
Ghost bullets? Do you mean like, you can't see the bullet in your field of vision, even though it's there?

I know I have that problem a lot in Garegga and RFJ. I'm not a very observant person though.

I posted by accident, what I meant was bullets that are visible on screen but don't actually kill you: has anyone reverse engineered the game to search for any?

>>10987787
No but I think I've died to some before. But it's probably just me sucking and looking for reasons to complain.

>>10987451
no, it's /jp/

Do any extra stages actually require split-second reaction and skill as opposed to memorization of patterns?

>>10988088
Shuusou Gyoku

>>10987774
The bullets in Garegga suck anyway. Grey on grey background. Is this a fucking joke?

>>10987787
>bullets that are visible on screen but don't actually kill you
>>10987839
>I think I've died to some before

>>10988125
I see them fine. Mostly fine. I don't feel like that's what's killing me anyway.

I have a bad computer so the game runs slowly. I've changed the games to 16-bit and the best I can get it is 45 fps. It'll usually drop about 10 frames when there's tons of bullets. Are there any remedies for this?

>>10988330
Upgrade from a Pentium III?

I don't know what to say anon, these games have ridiculously low requirements.

>>10988359
My computer is over 10 years old. I wish I could get a new one, but I can barely even afford food. I guess i'll just have to make the best of it. Touhou 6-9 work fine, so I guess I have that going for me.

>>10988389
At least you can play the best games in the series.

>>10988393
SA is 11.

>>10988407
So?

>>10988393
UFO is 12.

>>10988393
TD is 1- nope, can't do it.

I thought Banshiryuu stage 1 was really easy so I was expecting a pretty easy to beat game, then the stage 2 boss happened and I got destroyed. Has anyone in this thread beat that game?

>>10988088
Samidare

>>10989329
Samidare requires both.

>>10989362
Nah, just memorization. It was all a ruse.

One day I'll see the 4th stage...

>>10989378
No you won't.

Erratic Step is a stupid card. It's the only thing stopping me from my lunatic stage 5 pacifist :<

>>10989631
How do you trigger erratic step without shooting?

>>10989638
i mean perfect

what does holding shift in PFV do?

>>10989721
It gives you good shmup fundamentals

>>10989721
Hold shift.

>>10988330
you can have it only play 1/2 or 1/3 of the frames, so you processor only needs to be good enough for it to run at 20fps for the full experience

>>10989642
define perfect

>>10989959
No bombing no dying.

>>10990012
That's not perfect. Perfect would be attaining the highest possible score.

>>10990017
except a lot of touhou uploaders on youtube define "perfect" as no-bombs no-deaths even though it doesn't fit the definition of perfect

in other words, go fuck yourself

>>10990047
calm down

>>10990047
them's some strong words for a grade schooler to be usin'.

>>10990017
Thanks

>>10990047
#EDGY

>>10988088
spoiler: every STG in existence requires 10x more memorization than reactionary dodging

a lot of games may have several random patterns in them that force you to dodge on reaction, but they makes up about 3% of the game at most.

>>10990017
No it wouldn't. Are you by any chance fucking retarded?

>>10990437
Yes. Why do you ask?

Shou is impossible.

Nothing you can do against curved lasers

>>10990480
You can dodge them

>>10990384
There is an inverse relation between how much you have to memorize and how good you are at dodging.

>>10990746
If you want to be good at a game, you have to memorize every second of it.

>>10990762
Only if you are not good at dodging. This is of course disregarding playing for score.

>>10990762
>>10990384
Nah new player here. I'll spend a lot of time on one game thus "memorizing" most of the patterns. However I get frustrated/bored and switch to another one and just plow right through it (heavy cross-improvements not caused by memorization)

So basically mechanics and perceptive ability are important. I guess on higher dififculties though you'd have to memorize more. The danmaku seem to move impossibly fast in those modes but what would I know i'm just a scrub.

>>10990815
Depends on the game you're playing. Have fun doing anything in Gradius III or the second loop of a Psikyo game without memo.

>>10990047
>except a lot of touhou uploaders on youtube define "perfect" as no-bombs no-deaths even though it doesn't fit the definition of perfect
>youtube

HAHA GAY!

>>10991453
>Have fun doing anything in Gradius III
Unlikely.

And yet again, I'm torn on whether or not I should make use of practice mode or just full run everything.

good morning

Please tell me good morning

>>10991698
Good morning!

>>10991714
Thank you

>>10989928
I'm glad I checked this thread again, this did it for me. Thanks!

After playing at 45 fps, 60 fps is fucking me up.

>>10991855
no problem. Glad I could help. It actually made my day. Good luck with the full speed madness.

>>10991662
Good morning!

>>10990017
That's wrong. Even players like T use "perfect" to denote no death no bomb runs. You wouldn't argue against the "Best in the West".

>>10992374
Pfft. Western "players" are a fucking joke.

>>10992427
toast u r scoars

>>10992591
Sorry, but I don't want to be recognized being a prick on the internet.

>>10992666
Translation: I don't have any scores of note, but I like to talk big to get others to think I do.

>>10992427
They're all a joke except for that guy who had the Homura world record. He's the only one who was truly willing to go full shmup.

>>10992696
Sure gaijin. Care to take your own advice and post some scores?

>>10992723
He's not that one making silly claims. Post some scores and give yourself credibility, otherwise your posts have no weight.

>>10992737
What silly claims? Would you dispute the statement, "Western "players" are a fucking joke?"

lmfao NA can't chain past the first stage

stay free na, stay free.

I take it you guys are fucking bored

Is Subconscious "Rorschach in Danmaku" really meant to be killed, rather than timed out? It seems like it would be the most difficult card in the series to capture that way.

>>10993335
Very. We "fall" for retards like MaZe and >>10992723 all the time and respond to them seriously.

>>10992591
I suck :V

>>10993673
That feelio when 384M in DDP and you don't want to post the .inp because you made some really horrible mistakes.

I suck more :V

>>10993655
Zengeku/Sakurei please. You're much too obvious.
No need to envy me because I'm a much better player than you, despite only playing for a fraction of the time you have.
Oh and you've got it all wrong I'm afraid. People respond to me because they can respect my vast knowledge of the games.

>>10993773
MaZe why didn't you reply to me? Teach me how to be really good at dojbl so I can further praise you. ;_; Please make a good route for me.

please teach me how to play the fighters too, IRC is too scary.

>>10993773
Namedropping non-idols is not allowed!

>>10993773
They don't know how to sage though.

Oh cool, I finally 1cc'd a Touhou game. It was PoFV on Normal with the best character in the game but I still feel pretty good, Eiki made me work hard for that win it came down to the wire.

>>10994257
Great job, man! PoFV is a nice little start, but don't stop there. How about going for a hard 1cc, or switching titles for a different normal 1cc?

>>10994729
Yeah I'm still working on the normal 1cc for other games. The closest I'm at is Ten Desires, I can get to Miko and do most of her spellcards other than the very last two. Other than that I' stuck on Stage 4 or 5 on the other games.

(◕‿◕✿)

>>10994749
Oh speaking of that, I finally 1cc'd LLS on Normal just now. I never made it up to Stage 5 Yuuka before that. I was expecting her stage 5 Master Spark to be the size of Marisa's, not like the entire screen.

What the fuck do I have to do to clear Yamame's first nonspell on Lunatic? I don't know why I can't lead it, it just fucking boxes me in.

>>10996015
All that you have to do is go slowly to the side just like most things in SA, there's nothing complicated to it

Look at this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4y88na1wnQ

>>10996030
It annoys me that all Yamame has to do to murder me is just move a little closer downwards... I don't know how to deal with that.

it's so frustrating and hilarious to get impacted by an enemy in this game. frustrating like EoSD stage 6 fairies, hilarious like getting Dynamic Entry'd by Wriggle.

>>10996102
I almost got hit by Kogasa the first time I played UFO when she entered

>>10992374
1) T is not the best Western Touhou player. Not currently, and never was.
2) He uses the term "perfect" only since it makes his videos likely hits on Youtube search - The conditions are explained below in the video comments. Talk with him elsewhere and you'll notice how he uses the term "NMNB".

I'm working on 1cc normal perfect cherry blossom
Most days I am too tired to play well, but I keep practicing and holding shift so my shmup fundamental goes up.
I struggle mostly again the prism trio but I have beaten them a couple times, and I love youmu..

who's the most autistic streamer?

>>10996475
All of them.

Good morning

>>10996537
mornin

Is solo Alice the strongest option in IN?

>>10996563
only remilia and youmu have options

>>10996102
I laugh really hard when I come back to Raiden after playing a lot of CAVE games. The fact that some tanks come out and point blank fire right away, is hilarious. Nothing like ending a decent credit because you forgot that a tank was going to come out of that building.

>>10996563
The best shot type for survival, no doubt.

Ughh why is Scarlet Team in IN so awful. I'm a completion freak, and I unfortunately saved Scarlet for last. They seem many times weaker than the other three teams.

>>10996622
Remilia's shot is pretty monstrously strong if you line up both parts, but yeah it's kind of awkward. The bombs in particular seem mediocre.

>>10996629
i've noticed that too. sakuya's bomb only clears about half of the bullets on the screen and does much less damage than reimu/marisa/youmu's

>>10996622

They're my favorite shot type for IN, honestly. I immensely enjoyed MarisaC in MoF and this is the only shot type that's been similar. Parking your turrets on one side of the screen and moving yourself to the other side will kill enemies that stream in from both sides MUCH faster than the homing shot types could ever wish for. It's also fucking GREAT when battling Reimu, when she keeps running to the other side of the screen.

I haven't tried playing Lunatic, but I cleared Normal, Hard, and Extra with the Scarlet team.

Have played 2hu seriously for about a month, and results are: cleared normal 6, 7 and 8, now playing 9.5 and 10, watching replays and reading these threads. Not gonna clear 9 because I don't like it and first 5 games because don't want to emulate them.

And here is the question: Am I touhou secondary?

>>10996622
Scarlet Team is great. What are you talking about.

>>10996681

It depends on what you mean by "cleared", and you're also insinuating that there's an objective way to tell whether someone is a secondary.

Personally, if you can 1cc any of the 2hu games on Normal (that is, beat the entire game without using continues and only starting with the default number of lives), then I don't really see you as a secondary.

The term 'secondary' is meant to refer to people who are into 2hu for the fanmade stuff, as opposed to the canon material and games. Most people will come across fan material first, as it's more accessible and widespread, but what imaginary line you have to cross to not be a 'secondary' hasn't reached consensus. Some people say "once a secondary, always a secondary", and since this is the internet, it's hard to tell how serious people are when they say stuff like this.

Again, personally, I think if you've played any of the games long enough to get a Normal 1cc on them, you're not a secondary.

>>10996713
I thought secondary meant you read secondary touhou material like doujins or MMD on youtube rather than playing the games

>>10996716

But then, what about people who enjoy both? People who can enjoy the fanmade stories for what they are, while also enjoying the canon material and games?

>>10996713
>>10996716
By original definition, "secondary" means you first got interested in Touhou through fanmade works. Doesn't even matter how much you play now. You could be the record-holder and still be a secondary. It's a label you should never take seriously or care about.

Primary Touhou fan: One who became interested in Touhou due to it's games. A longtime fan of shmup/arcade/retro-esque games, this person likes Touhou for it's actual gameplay, music and/or art/style. Probably has an interest in secondary works, but most likely enjoys the main games and ZUN's works more so.

Secondary Touhou fan: One who became interested in Touhou due to some offshoot (dojin works, IOSYS, fanart, 4chan...). May or may not have an interest in its main genre and more likely have not really played the games; if they did play, it's only to see what the game is like and doesn't get into it (i.e. 1CCing normal or completing extra). However, probably enjoys the side games (IaMP and SWR) and may or may not enjoy the fanworks. This is also the typical "Touhoufag."

>>10996744

Neither of these definitions include people like >>10996733, though. I think what >>10996734 said is more accurate, and that it's not something a person should care about.

>>10996748
>>10996748
Well >>10996744 posted the original definition that I summarized. You can clearly see how retarded it is and why only idiots would care about it.

I'm a dojbl secondary, can't even chain the entire first loop. What a piece of learning disability shit.

What the fuck is up with bullets killing you after the spell ends? This only happens to me in games on the MoF engine. Why would ZUN introduce that? It's retarded.

Fucking christ I made it to Youmu with four lives and still lost somehow, when I finally beat her I'm going to practice the fuck out of her stage because the one time I made it to Yuyuko remember she wasn't as hard as Youmu.

>>10997456
It happens on earlier games as well.

>>10997522
I can't remember that happening to me in 6 - 9, whereas I can remember at least five times it's happened in 10 - 13. I have about 40 hours in 6 - 9, and around 50 in 10 - 13. Maybe I've just never been in a situation where it would happen, but it seems to not even be a feature/bug of 6 - 9. I even remember going through bullets at the ends of Last Spells, although that may just be a special feature of Last Spells or an issue of not colliding with a hitbox.

>>10997489
If you made it to Yuyuko before, Youmu's stage should already be available in Practice mode.

>>10997654
I made it to Yuyuko using Reimu, I used Sakuya this time and the game was way easier so I'm just going to stick with her. I wasn't expecting the Prismriver sister's to be so much different though, I mean it makes sense but I still wasn't expecting different non-spells.

>>10997637
That isn't a whole lot of time spent at all, but yeah. I feel you. I've game overed plenty of times during the slow part of Byakuren exploding, same with Kanako. I've not once had it happen in any Touhou game other than 10-13, but at the same time, it feels like I can't dodge for shit in 10-13 as well.

>>10997637
I don't have any technical proof but my own anecdotal evidence. It happened to me, though much more seldom than the newer games. It's so rare I can still count its occurrence with my hand, and I have played much more than you. Also, I think old Windows engine clears the bullet starting from boss's hitbox too, which is the double KO cause, although at a much more rapid pace than the newer engine, so it happened very rarely.

>>10997637
It's happened to me me at the end of Meiling's final spell card in my first EoSD lunatic 1cc replay.

>>10996564
Yukari, Yuyuko, and (debatably) Alice all have options in IN.

How do I malice cannon without getting carpal tunnel

>>10999229
use solo youmu it's better

>>10999264
ok

Ketsui is very fun.

What is a good game to build shmup fundamentals on? I want to start playing on Lunatic, but I'm too shitty.

>>11001040
Pink Sweets

>>11001067
It looks like Garegga, but harder. I'll be sure to check it out.

Patchy's nonspells are driving me crazy

Good morning

Why did ZUN abandon her?

>>11001209
ZUN might have abandoned her, but she still lives on in the best 2hu game, PoDD. And there can be double the Mima for double the fun.

>>11001103
I was joking, Pink Sweets is shit and you shouldn't play it

>>11001227
>best 2hu game, PoDD

>>11001249
Good thing I checked this thread again then, because I was seriously about to buy it. I guess I could get RFA since I'm having so much fun with RFJ in MAME. The lack of a practice mode is killing me with this game, and it gives a really good feeling of blowing things up.

I'm also considering SDOJ, mostly because it looks like the game that DFK should have been.

Why is the thread dead today

>>11001258
Hardest 2hu game, therefore best 2hu game.

>>11001508
Probably because it reached the bump limit.

>>11001508
nothing to talk about

I finally beat Yukari, but since her last spellcard is a survival one and I had one life and three bombs left, I just spammed bomb and did no dodging whatsoever. I don't know if I should feel satisfied or not.

>>11001581
Good job

Who's easiest EX final boss?

>>11001869
Fujiwara no mokou

>>11001581
my first clear was like that too. I felt satisfied for the time being back then but I went back and improved it later.

So enjoy your victory for now, go do something else. Then come back to her and see if you can't do a better job.

>>11001869
Yakumo Ran.

>>11001892
she doesn't count

>>11001895
She is an Extra boss.

>>11001895
Ran is quite good at maths, actually.

Wow, I really start to get upset about my own mistakes. Memorizing DDC, don't pay enough attention for a splitsecond and die in Wakasagihime's second spellcard, starts to get embarassing.
Maybe too much for today already.

>>11001871
I would think that if you were to NMNB one of them, you'd manage Suwako, Koishi, Ran, Nue or heck, just about any one of them quicker than Mokou :)

>>11001902

>>11001912
I've actually cried after dropping the 1-3 chain in DOJBL for the millionth time. When I actually do get it, I end up dying to something that any retard can dodge.

>>11001999
Too proud to bomb, too frustrated to continue after dying. Memorizing is, for me, the most important part, but I want to retry as soon as I die, so I end up messing things up, which I shouldn't.
I mean http://youtu.be/N6E_E2T9Q24 it's ridiculous how much I messed up.
It's like, try try try, IT WORKS, mess up one thing which you usually perform flawlessly.
Maybe already too tired, I don't know, but I can't keep my hands away from it, just have to retry and retry, it's a vicious circle.

>>11001957
i don't think there's anyone in this thread right now that can no bomb any ex boss

>>11002029
Good one.

>>11002029
Hello. I'd like to prove you wrong.

>>11002029
But NB an extra boss isn't as difficult as it sounds.

>>11002048
>>11002051
>>11002053
I'm waiting. No old replays, it has to be your own.

When I try to download replays from Gensokyo.org I get this instead of what I assume should be japanese text. Anyone know what's wrong?

>>11002062
Right click and save as.

>>11002029
I can no-bomb any extra boss. It's no problem.

>>11002022
My frustration comes from dying to stuff that other everybody else considers piss easy. And don't worry about dying in the first stage, it happens to everybody, especially if they aren't focused.

It's even more rage inducing that I got the chain down, but now I'm dying on easy as shit patterns now. Fuck those "piss easy :V" cheese graters and that final pattern.

>>11002029
>>11002061
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=6064
here 2 min ago, It was shitty run and I'm shitty player I don't even have any hard 1cc yet Sorry for misusing spoiler function

>>11002105
I feel you, patience and keep trying. There will be the perfect try and it's done. Just a trial anyway, as long as you are prepared enough when it's released, it should be doable, shouldn't it?

>>11002061
fucking gensokyo.or trolling me with urls
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=28638
here 2 min ago, It was shitty run and I'm shitty player I don't even have any hard 1cc yet Sorry for misusing spoiler function

>>11002029
>>11002061
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=28639
This is shit. You're dumb. This thread is shit. Someone make a new one already.

>>11002061
http://www.replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=28640

Nothing special, one try. Have fun.

i'm impressed

>>11002236
The shit players are always the most vocal ones.

>>11002241
These runs must be the work of that famous elitist IRC secret club.

These underground tourneygods reminded me, what ever happened to that underground DoDonPachi group? The ones that only show replays and scoring tactics amongst one another, without letting it out to anybody.

Those guys were really serious about competition in that game.

>>11002269
I wouldn't doubt it.
":V"

>>11002029
I'm a little late, also probably the worst no-bomb extra clear.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=28642

>>11002105
Those cheese graters are piss easy once you understand how the pattern works, but I won't explain it because you're not part of my secret club. :VVvVvVVVVvv

>>11002105
hold shoot for focused streaming

>>11002029
Are you fucking retarded?

>>11002820
Thank you for the informative post.

I hate EX Kogasa!

bump limit?