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"Manipulation of eternity and temporality"

WTF is the meaning of this?

>> No.109621

You're already dead.

>> No.109626

You know how the touhou characters can do insane shit with powers that sound not so fantastic?

Yeah it means she can kill you twice as hard as you thought. That's all you need to know if you can't comprehend it.

>> No.109628

From the thumbnail, Kaguya looks pregnant.
BRB, fapping at warp speed.

>> No.109630

>>109613
That means she can kill herself.

>> No.109650

She can make things never to rot and stay young forever

>> No.109673

>WTF is the meaning of this?
everyday is sunday.

>> No.109678

She can fuck with time

>> No.109683

>>109678
Wasn't that Sakuya?

>> No.109686

Sounds like time manipulation.

>> No.109687

>>109683
Sakuya can too, in a different way.

>> No.109704

>>109687
I though sakuya could only control time temporaily because of her watch.

>> No.109712

>>109704
It might not be her watch (though it's very likely), it could be an innate ability.

>> No.109715

>>109708
O I C

>> No.109714
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>> No.109708

Sakuya fuck with the world's clock.
Kaguya fuck with internal clocks.

>> No.109716

>>109704
Exactly what he said.
Sakuya does all her chores using the watch, because the mansion is a giant labyrinth and the fairy maids are good for nothing.
Without it, that'd be impossible.

>> No.109730

Actually, I have to admit, I'm stumped on this one. I'd figure it's time manipulation based on the name... but it's never really been described.

She seems to usually just give out her 5 impossible requests as danmaku, which makes it a normal game of dodging shit.

At least we have a better idea of everyone else's power and what it's used for (even if they are horribly open ended and hax like Suika and Yukari).

Personally, I'm just going to continue to just think of her as a immortal NEET. She stays in her room all day and gets the others to do things for her if need be.

>> No.109735
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You know how that one motherfucking maid bitch can all stop time n' shit? Well this bitch right here can fuck you up ten fucking thousand times worse. All she has to fucking do is get tired of your shit and be like "Know what, fucking piss-shit nigger? I'm fucking sick of your goddamn cock-sucking bullshit", and then HO-LEE FUCK time starts collapsing on top of you because this bitch decided that motherfucking time was gonna fucking end in ten fucking seconds. All because your dipshit ass didn't bring her her motherfucking tea.

>> No.109745

>>109735

HOLY SHIT KAGUYA IS AWESOME

>> No.109747

>>109735
Time is eternal?

>> No.109739

>>109730
>At least we have a better idea of everyone else's power and what it's used for
Keine someone?
or
Watatsuki no Toyohime

>> No.109761

>>109735
So then everyone serves Kaguya out of fear?

>> No.109767

>>109747
Not if she decides that your time isn't.

>> No.109772

>>109739

We know Keine records and hides history by consuming or writing it. She can normally just consume history which only really hides it, during full moon she can create it. She's usually busy every full moon officially writing up the latest events of Gensokyo into history before handing it over the Heida family, making her tense and likely to CAVE people.

In ZUNs world, history doesn't just happen and get recorded, apparently you need powers to make it stick or something. Eitherway, the point is we know what Keine's power is meant to do. It's just not explained well enough to grasp the practicality of it. I don't know what the fuck Kaguya's power is supposed to be beyond the five impossible tasks and immortality.

>> No.109773

>>109761
She's on good relations with them.

>> No.109787

>>109735

Sauce?

>> No.109783

Well, Kaguya's power has had three major demonstrations: one, it was used to create the Hourai Elixir (making Kaguya herself an integral component to the elixir of immortality, some kind of department of redundancy department); two, the lack of "things happening" in Eientei prior to IN (literally speaking, nothing happened beyond what was done - a partial dissolution of reaction, cause, and effect); three, the hallway that went on forever. Her power over eternity and instance can preserve a single flower in one state forever (pluck its petals and, though that petal is severed, it will never suffer), or reduce it from seed to plant to compost in a blink. Theoretically. She has not demonstrated her power too well, much like Keine's "Create History" hakutaku ability.

>>109716
But the mansion is an even larger labyrinth because "there is one [there] who likes toying with time and space" (Patchouli, EoSD).

>> No.109794

>>109783
Also she can make herself a NEET forever!

>> No.109800

Isn't Sakuya able to manipulate space as well?

As for Manipulation of Eternity and Temporality, if you think of their meanings it is basically fucking with Internalized faults and being able to change or dismantle the time frames of the target.

While she can't freeze time, she could probably change an objects reference point in time, for instance make a tree act as if its in winter during spring.

>> No.109805

what are the five impossible requests anyway?

>> No.109817

>>109800
Basically she could kill herself if she wanted to ignoring the effects of the Hourai Elixir. She'd also be able to put Mukou out of her misery, however she doesn't do it, enjoying killing her for the fun of it.

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>>109821
>jeweled branch from the island of Hourai

SO THAT'S WHAT THIS FUCKING STICK THING IS

>> No.109821

>>109805
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_the_Bamboo_Cutter

stone begging bowl of the Buddha
jeweled branch from the island of Hourai
legendary robe of the fire-rat of China
colored jewel from a dragon's neck
seashell treasure of the swallows

>> No.109846

>>109827
That's an impossible request.
She sent Mokou's father to get the branch.
While she hid it the whole time, bitch.

>> No.109852

>>109783

This is the best explanation I've seen for it. I'll go with this one. Not so much time manipulation as fucking with your personal point in time and drawing out how long a instant can last (or removing the length).

If she wasn't such a NEET she could use this power for great fun, though I imagine she actually uses it to enjoy a good thread until she's tired of it, or skip through long rants from Eirin about her doing something with her life.

Though I suppose she could make the high point of her masturbation last as long as she pleases. Alone.

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>> No.109867

>>109852
So she could exist in a state of perpetual orgasm? Holy moly.

>> No.109868

>>109846

It's her way of saying 'no' without actually saying 'no'. She tells the dumb smuck to do something for her that he can't achieve, so when he fails she can blame him and act like she gave them a change.

Kaguya is a bitch. This would count against her is EVERY OTHER TOUHOU WEREN'T ALSO BITCHES.

>> No.109871

>>109867
and to think of that there is someone who knows a border to achieve the same. fucking hax.

>> No.109877

>>109821
I thought there was also the Phoenix's eggs or something. In that a guy actually managed to find them, but tripped and broke them when he was running to hand them to her and she said since the eggs were broken it didn't count.

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>>legendary robe of the fire-rat
Reporting.

>> No.109879

>>109868
Luize is not a bitch.

>> No.109880

>>109868
Welcome to Gensokyo, aka Bitchtopia.

>> No.109885

>>109867

Yeah, fuck you Sakuya. When you freeze time you still have your own relative time, you can't stretch out your own moments of pleasure and others moments of pain. That said, I'm sure with her experience and sadism she knows how to do that conventionally.

>> No.109889

In the light novel The Rashness of Haruhi Suzumiya, Kyon compares the notion of time traveller and object of infatuation Mikuru Asahina returning to her own time to Kaguya-hime going back to the moon.

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>>109885
She also has a perfect practice dummy.

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>>109910

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>>109925

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>>109925

>> No.109940

>>109783
>three, the hallway that went on forever.

That was actually an illusion caused by Reisen, and number two is pretty much the same for every other game boss too.

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109947

Eirin! Eirin! Feed me, Eirin!

>> No.109987

>WTF is the meaning of this?
It means she doesn't work.

>> No.109992

Cage in Lunatic Runagate has a pretty good explanation of Kaguya's ability in action.

>> No.110008

From PMiSS:

She possesses the ability to manipulate the eternal and the instantaneous. As eternity refers to a world with no history, it is also a world where change is eternally unknown. No matter how much you may try to bring about change in such a world, it is futile in a world where time has essentially stopped. One can think of it thus: even the fact that Eientei suddenly appeared in human history and began to experience the passage of time was because she reversed the effects of her eternity magic.

Under the effects of that magic, Eientei would probably have never appeared in the human world, but would have always remained hidden in the Bewildering Bamboo Forest (* Even the name "House of Eternity" implies this.) However, a perpetual world denies any sort of change. She may have lived for a very long time without having changed at all.

Her other ability regarding the ephemeral is complementary to her manipulation of eternity, and allows control over extremely short time durations. It allows her to act in periods of time so short as to be imperceptible to human beings. Since these periods are just aggregates of moments in time, they pass normally, but they are far too small to be perceived by normal people. It's said she can manipulate parallel timelines by using these moments.

As both of these abilities allow the manipulation of time, they far surpass what normal humans are capable of.

¯\(°_o)/¯

>> No.110038

>they far surpass what normal humans are capable of.

Normal Sakuya is normal.

>> No.110126

>Normal Sakuya is Normal

In b4 Sakuya is a lunarian debate.

>> No.110271

>>110126
She's not.

>> No.110293

>>110126
Sakuya is a Roma descenden who lived in Transilvania.

>> No.110320

>>109613
It means don't stare to long or your face will melt like a nip in Nagasaki.

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