/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Lets build a racecar

Why do people write loli as lolly when they sound nothing alike?

Also, out of curiosity and knowing 4chan, I haven't listened to anything, but are there tracks in the music project that aren't some form of electronic/synth/techno/chiptune type music?

Right now, the /jp/ music project has 14 registered members and 2 more who have not accepted the invite yet. 8 of those have submitted at least 1 track. I don't know who will submit music or art. If you have e-mailed me at jpmusicproject1@gmail.com and have not received an invite from dropbox, first - check your spam folder, and if it's not there, email me again and we can sort it out until you get your invite.

>>10912501
Some of them sound like pure real instruments, but I'm not sure. I think most of them are synths, though not necessarily Electronica.

>>10912508
I just mean is there non-untz/wub/beep-boop type music there. I don't mind if they're synthetic violins playing some violin based song.

>>10912522
If I'm understanding what you're saying correctly, then yes.

Do we have artists for 2D platformers and such? It'd be good to have a /jp/ game using more that 2~3 frames per animation for a change.

I'll be composing a song(s) over the next few days that I have free.

Anybody here who can compose quality chiptune music?

(I need it for the game I'm working on)

>>10912501
The Color Blue is sample-based beat music with chips and synthesized bass on the side.

From previous Thread :
Uploader here. So I've listened to all the tracks thoroughly.

Ganjameister - Lovely Girls Anthem
I seem to hear clipping in this track, I think you should review your mix.

The Color Blue, I'm not a specialist on the subject, but In all your tracks, I feel like there's something wrong, the sounds seem to cancel each other out, and the volume oscillates. I think there's too much compression. Please review your mixes. Well maybe that's just me.

Into The Dimensional Gerbera Event
I really like this track but I think it's too long, please consider shortening it.

Here is how I see the album for now :

1. Rhetorics
2. A Misaligned Pulchride (with vocal)
3. Lovely Girls Anthem
4. Canopy Mist
5. Ascend
6. You Are Worthless
7. Aftermath
8. Into The Dimensional Gerbera Event
9. A Miracle
10. Devil's Adorable Disciple
11. Daydream in a Cup
12. reunion
13. Empty Spaces (with vocal)
14. Floating Islands
15. Like The Sun

I used 2 tracks max per artist. I'm still very hesitant for the order but that's the best I came up with for now.
Feel free to give your opinion/suggestion.

>>10912697
>the sounds seem to cancel each other out, and the volume oscillates
That's sidechain compression. It creates space for the kick and gives it a "pumping" sound. It's more common in EDM, but a lot of beat artists use it.

I use it because I like the effect and because it adds emphasis to the rhythm which for my tracks are often heavily swung or use odd time signatures. It tends to create a point of focus.

That said, it might be too pronounced, I'll try to tighten it up a bit.

I've uploaded what would likely be the last track I can make before the project reaches its end, The Deceiver of the Dimension Ennea. In the spirit of this project, since it's the only track which I only started after the project began, I think it's only fair that it be the one that would be included among my tracks.

Right now, we seem to have a couple who have only 1 track, so, staying true to the spirit of the project, the uploaders may only pick one (1) of their tracks to be included in the final album.

Those who are still in the middle of producing their piece, have no fear. We _will_ wait for your tracks.

>>10912501
There are quite a few, yes. For example, my track, Rhetorics, which was just uploaded, is a, uhhh... I guess I'd refer to it as 'take-it-easy! rock.' It's all guitar sims fresh out of Guitar Pro, but I tried my best to emulate real guitar sounds. It's still missing the bass part, though. I need to lay it down sometimes soon~

>>10912697
b-b-but why would you put my track first? It doesn't even fit the mood or set the tone for the album and it's not even that good!

How do I make things? I feel like I'm only good at destroying things...

>>10912950
With practice.

I drew an album cover and send a mail now.

>>10912981
Are those lower-case letters? Being in level with the forward slashes make it seem they're upper-case. Either way, it looks good.

>>10912981
Cute! Me on the left.

>>10912915
>b-b-but why would you put my track first? It doesn't even fit the mood or set the tone for the album and it's not even that good!

no way rethorics is epic have some faith in yourself

So what happens to the other artworks? Just dump it in anyways?

>>10912997
Yeah. But first, we arbitrarily decide to name them Cover, Back, or if there is enough, Middle, or even Pamphlet. No one will notice.

Daily reminder that the guy behind /jp/ Milk Tea didn't even know how to fuggin program. Does this artist still post here? Anyone know his name? Where can I find more of his art, fuck.

>>10913052
I think that artist is called miko.

>>10913007
Someone should print them out and scan them in again for that authentic doujin feel.

I guess we've reached our first milestone, then. This means the countdown has begun. From this point on, I won't be inviting anymore people who will just be starting out on their works. However, if you've already got a finished piece and just need the invite to upload it, then I'll still invite you in, of course. This goes for both music and art.

Also, now that we have reached our first milestone, I think it's about we pick a name for the album.

Of course, we could always fall back on the standard and neat "/jp/ Music Project One" title should any of these happen:

- No one else suggests a title and the title I suggest is rejected.
- Deciding on the title results in endless bickering

That said, I do have a title to put forward, which is obviously open to scrutiny. I thought "The Best of the Worst" as the title would be fitting, obviously, under the /jp/ Project label, similar, if not exactly like the one which appears in the very first /jp/ Project to have that tag, "Dandelion Girl". I thought the name would be fitting because, 'The Best', obviously because from the get go, I specifically told everyone to submit tracks that they, themselves, like, and one might say that these are their best works. Then, 'The Worst', because the nature of us /jp/ers in relation to our very bad standing in society. Plus, it sort of rhymes or at least sounds nice when paired with 'Best'.

There's also, finally, the issue of the details on the tracks themselves. Obviously, the album information will contain the title of the album, but what about the track contributors? Will we keep whatever artist name people write on their tracks, or will we be going on a single name, like /jp/ Project or Anonymous? Personally, I'm partial to the latter, but it's something we need to decide as a group this time, as it would be really crass to arbitrarily impose this one.

>>10913072
Depends, are we going for that cute doujin album feel, or an EHEHE WE R LEEHJUN feel?

>>10912981
Do you think you can do some edits once we all (you included) decide some of the things I mentioned? Like, if it's going to be the cover, definitely, the name of the album would be placed in there, or if it's the back, we'll need to place the track list on it. I just need to know if you will be able to do a variable amount of edits in the next few days, or this week.

By the way, I rummaged around google image search, and I found the old cover for the first /jp/ Project label. It's in the pic.

>>10913083
Might want to quote exactly which part you were addressing with this one.

>>10913074
Oh god. I'm sure we can find a filter to do that effect instead.

>>10913089
Pretty sure this image was made by the French translators, and they just threw that in there.

The old forum might be active if they had a real logo, but I don't think they did.

>>10913102
No, that's the actual logo they used. I played that game and it shows up in the title roll. I'd print screen it, but right now I'm too lazy to find it, re-install it and open it just to capture the title screen. All in order to give a reference material for the artists.

>>10913098
Not authentic enough!

>>10912769
Ok so if it's done on purpose, I think it's just a question of personal taste.

>>10912852
>staying true to the spirit of the project, the uploaders may only pick one (1) of their tracks to be included in the final album.
But we are only 9 artists, so there's gonna be only 9 tracks. I think that's too low. If we use 2 tracks per artist for those who uploaded more than one, we get 15 tracks, it's better isn't it ?

>>10912915
The first track of an album is the most important, we need something easy too listen while still catchy and energic, I think your track is the best for that.

>>10912981
>>10912993
Did you drew the characters based on the music ?

>>10913118
Fair enough. It's been a while since I played it, so I don't remember.

That cover art is from the French translation though. If you can't find that logo elsewhere, here it is in slightly higher resolution.

Also I just learned that some Russians translated it a few months ago:
http://enthusiasts-ts.ucoz.ru/load/drugoe/devushka_oduvanchik/3-1-0-17
The same group also translated Clannad and Kanon into Russian. It's strange that we have an international presence like this.

>>10913089
>>10913102
>>10913118
Here's the logo from the game, I think it won't hurt to improve it.

>>10913127
>But we are only 9 artists, so there...etc.
Numerically, yes. However, I want to preserve equality among the contributors. I did state when the project was still in its early stages that I did not, do not, and will not mind releasing an album even with only 2,3 or 4 tracks. Currently, the project has exceeded even my most optimistic expectations, and, while it is exciting, I want to stay true to the spirit of decency and equality that I believe I've firmly kept throughout the project.

>>10913148
Could definitely use a gradient or two and a Web 2.0 style reflection.

>>10913072
>/jp/ Music Project One
That's fine by me. Nothing can go wrong with that title.

I-I'll upload my pic by tomorrow...

>>10913178
I would ironically do a /jp/ Music Project Two out of obligation and OCD.

In fact, you should call it /jp/ Music Project Five and work backwards. People will take part just because they need closure.

>>10913178
this. or maybe add a subtitle? like, "/jp/ music compilation one - the best of the worst" or "/jp/ music compilation one - suck my c0ck d00d"
or "s&m - shitposters & meido"

Call it /jp/ Music Project Zero.

>>10913196
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>>10913152
You think people who uploaded only one track will feel discriminated ?
Some people uploaded a lot of tracks here, I'm not sure it's fair to just pick one track among all their work while they submitted more than that.
Plus I'm not saying we should put all the tracks in the album, only two tracks max per artist isn't exaggerated.
I would like to hear the other uploader's opinion.
But hey you're the boss here I'll respect your decision.

>>10913072
>The Best of the Worst
This feels like "best of" album. If we're gonna do more album projects in the future, we'll certainly make a better album than this one since it's the first, so we shoulnd't say it's "the best".
>'The Worst', because the nature of us /jp/ers in relation to our very bad standing in society
Ok but come on, who will listen to this album if we immediatly present it like some work done by fat neckbeards weeaboo. I'm not saying we should praise ourselves, we should just be unpretentious/humble and present our work without judging ourselves in the title (see th dandy girl, it's not pretentious and it's not degrading either).

I think there's nothing wrong with a title like "/jp/ Music Project One".

are the songs actually relevant to otaku culture or even board culture?

>>10913214
Some of them.

I wish I could kill every single one of you.

I hate you people so much.

>>10913242
>>10913243
What's wrong?

>>10913242
>>10913243
Thanks for contributing to making everyone's life more difficult.

>>10913210
I only uploaded one track but really, I don't feel discriminated at all. In fact, if the whole one-track-only shebang is happening, I'd be the one feeling discriminated! I reckon I'd just get this feeling of guilt, that the other guys got shafted and has to compromise just because I couldn't get more tracks done. If that were to happen, I reckon I'd just pull off so everyone else can have 2 or more tracks, rather than having to go through the bad aftertaste when the album's out.

>>10913192
That's pretty cruel.

>>10913210
>You think people who... etc.
Yes, I think so. To me, as an outsider, it would look like a bunch of music geeks decided to band together to show their e-peens, but realized there weren't enough people on-board for... okay, so maybe my anxieties were a bit exaggerated. And:
>I'm not sure it's fair to just pick one track among all their work while they submitted more than that.
...is a decent point. I agree that we should hear other uploaders' opinions about this one.

>But hey you're the boss here I'll respect your decision.
Stop that. I'm just the guy who setup the dropbox. My word has no more worth than yours, or an anon who was just listening to the music and decided to give a comment.

>I think there's nothing wrong with a title like "/jp/ Music Project One".
Sounds like it's decently popular from the get-go with 2 votes. It might stick, at this rate.

>>10913196
In relation to the comment by >>10913210
maybe a subtitle would be appropriate, just to give a description of the tracks inside. In that case, how about we just go to basics and add the tracks I requested as the subittile? It'd be something like:

/jp/ Music Project one
stuff we like

...And similarly, if new music projects pop up in the future, they could be something like:

/jp/ Music Project (number)
(general theme)

So the drama is already starting?
Please /jp/ unlike normals try to keep it civilized.

>>10913192
/jp/ Music Project One sounds good to me. If there aren't any major problems (murders, lawsuits, etc), then do /jp/ Music Project Two next year.

>>10913274
Die already. Die die die die die die die die die die die Die die die die die die die die die die die Die die die die die die die die die die die Die die die die die die die die die die die Die die die die die die die die die die die

>>10913214
Yeah man, we're going to have epic gaijin rock songs like the Leetstreet Boys or Area 11 :)

die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die die

Feelio when 4-ch would have had an album out by now.

>>10913262
I agree, but
>stuff we like
sounds a bit lame, don't you think? Perhaps we could use a parody/perversion of some appropriate quotation from a VN or such?

What should I do with my anger?

>>10913262
>it would look like a bunch of music geeks decided to band together to show their e-peens
Don't worry if you look at the albums made by circles you usually have 1-3 track per artist, Im' checking some random alice's emotion albums as I say that and yeah there's usually 3-4 tracks by redalice or some other dude and some artits who only have one track in the album.

>maybe a subtitle would be appropriate
Agreed.

You all should just disappear so I can be at peace again.

If you stop existing then everything will be fine.

>>10913301
>>10913307
>>10913312
>>10913315
Please leave.

I'm trolling this thread because it's more fun than having original content that will increase /jp/ exposure.

>>10913297
poison poison poison poison

>>10913319
you super seekrit klub people are so cute

My head hurts so much right now. Something is wrong with me.

I hate you people.

>>10913322
Y-You think I'm cute?

Nobody has ever said that to me before...

*giggles and blushes in real life*

I hate you.

This isn't fun for me as long as you keep existing.

Please die.

Do some of you guys, like, literally get angry in real life? I've always assumed that lashers prefer other boards over /jp/.

Don't delete my comments.

>>10913072
>Will we keep whatever artist name people write on their tracks, or will we be going on a single name, like /jp/ Project or Anonymous?

Please put the name of the individual artists, they deserve credit for their work. If a second album is made it may be a whole new bunch of people so it would be nice to compare the artists

>>10913299

Why was this deleted, Janny? I am glad you have cleaned up the shitposting but that post wasn't too bad

>>10912501
honestly, i just wanted to avoid using the word "loli" in anything public because it sets off all kinds of flags in different places.

>>10912852
>the uploaders may only pick one (1) of their tracks
i don't think that's necessary. i'd say 2 from some and 1 from others is fine, unless of course you end up with 15+ contributors.

>>10913072
Take it /JP/Z!

because it sounds like take it easy...

>>10913356
>Why was this deleted
Sometimes they carpet-delete, just to head off what looks like flooding. My advice (if/when they delete us too) is to simply go along with it.

Note also that the "OC" thread is up, and probably open to playing host to projects discussion if people want to be such pests in this thread.

>>10913356
Thanks for defending my post, guy.

I guess he took it as flame baiting (my message board is better than your message board!) or he just hates the feelio meme.

>>10913357
You could just say shoujo or something. Calling little girls loli is a bad habit, similar to calling any girl a bitch/whore anyway.

You could call even it shoujo-moe and have it mean the same thing as loli sprout, but without as many "flags".

>>10913415

I enjoy both the DQN albums and the feelio meme. Keep up the good work, I like your style.

>>10913417
>shoujo-moe and have it mean the same thing as loli sprout
you lost me here. you mean call it shoujo-moe-sprout?

anyway it's not a big deal. the name can be easily changed at any point. it's just a placeholder for now while i work on it.

How is calling a loli "loli" bad? You bunch of fucking gaylords.

>>10913457
No, I meant to say to just use shoujo instead of loli, so "shoujo sprout"

But, while I was thinking of it, I remembered moe ("萌え") is also a pun on the word for sprouting. So calling it "shoujo moe" would be roughly be the same as calling it "loli sprout", excluding the sexual and possible investigation worthy connotations of "loli".

for the album name:

"music project one" sounds kinda simple.
if you look at other artists, you'd usually go with something like..
-/jp/ compilation volume 1
-/jp/ collective sound vol.1
..or something similar if it's going to be an average and official title

but i think it could be much more creative than this. think in terms of "swing holic", "jazz messengers", or golden city "factory". there are many words that could fit. it's easy as long as there is a theme and some thought behind it.

>>10913553
>/jp/ beatup

>>10913564
sounds violent.

how about "once in a million years delivery" since we never get shit done

-Misunderstood Genuises
-/jp/ Jukebox
-/jp/ - Ongaku Culture

/jp/ music project one: enjoyee your NEETtime
/jp/ music project two: this time it's personal
/jp/ music project three: electric boogaloo

neet audioglomerate

>>10913629
More like electric weeaboo amirite?

>>10913644
/jp/ collective sound vol.1
Audioglomerate

I just got my track mastered, is it too late to send it?

>>10912915
Why did you choose Guitar pro sims anyway? I mean its awesome but still wouldn't a real do the job perfectly

I really love your tracks The Color Blue

/jp/ music project one - don't bully
/jp/ music project one - the pleasure of being cummed inside
/jp/ music project one - I-It's (not) for y-you!
or
/jp/ music project one - uguu~
You guys could also use some random generators or even the captcha for a tittle. But make sure if you do that to take a screenshot to avoid some shitstorm.

>>10913709
Because I don't fracking know how to play guitar? I don't think I can explain it any other way.

Yeah, it would be cool if I could get some real guitar there, but I don't know anyone who plays guitar (but then I don't know anyone at all, so...). And I figured no way I can find some random dude on the internet who is just gonna go up and record for me for free (with a quality I like). And VSTs are just too much out of my comfort zone, anon...

And anyway GP6's amp sims is pretty awesome on its own. Sure it's not the real thing, but it's pretty decent and versatile, and you can get some pretty cool sounds out of it. The only downside is the drums sounds like balls (but I can use Ezdrummer for that) and the bass is shit (this I'm having a problem with).

>>10913903
"please don't bully" best subtitle

>>10913930
What about "anti-bully ranger" or "bully barrier"?

>>10913903

All those subtitles just scream /a/. Please do not use any of these!!!

>>10913914
Yeah wish I could help you play haha. Shame I only have my shitty epi les paul right now.The song's cool though it kinda reminds me of Minimum electric design

how about "eccentric weaboo mastery"

>>10913694
that sounds pretty neat.

I sent a demo to the email.

>>10912989
They are capital letters. I should change them...

>>10912993
Thanks!

>>10913089
I think I can.

>>10913127
Not anthropomorphism but I drew it with listening the album tracks.

Will you pay me dollars if I help you di whatever the fuck you're doing?

>>10912697
Ganjameister here. Lovely Girls Anthem sounds fine to me, might be your setup/equipment.

I made some changes to the code for lollysprout, how can I contribute them to the project?

>>10915023
you need a svn client to commit them directly. tortoisesvn is pretty easy to use, and there are also svn adapter plugins for most java IDEs.

if you don't want to bother with any of those, you could paste the code somewhere like pastebin and someone else can commit it for you.

>>10914998
Nah there's definitly clipping. Listen close at 0:01, 0:15, 0:37... Each time when a cymbal hits and even on the claps.

>>10915063
I honestly don't hear anything jarring, but then again I do listen to all my music at ear shattering volumes. Is it really that bad?

>>10914998
Not that guy, but it does seem to be clipping a little. What did you use to limit it?

>>10915105
>Is it really that bad?
Yes it's bad. I heard somewhere that listening at low volumes increases audio perception accuracy.
Also if you listen to music that loud, maybe you're used to hear clipping since clipping can also happen in your ears/brain (don't exactly know how that works).

stop looking at me like that

>>10915105
>>10915157
I think the volume is juste to high. Foobar says you're 11-12 dB too high

>>10915196
I find that the track is too quiet if I stay in the green area of Ableton's volume display. Guess I'll remix it without going overboard...

>>10915220
I don't know Ableton, but if perceived volume is too low compared to real volume, you should genereally add compression to your track. But seeing the graph on Audacity your music seems already pretty much compressed. But I think you just like your music really loud, listen to some track from Vandrao, see how low the volume is ?

>>10915177

>>10915300
Why must you do this?..

>>10915105
You should always mix quietly and leave room for dynamic range. Use compression to raise overall level, but don't squash the waveform. Your sub bass also seems to be a needlessly loud.

>>10915245
Vandrao here.

Is it a bad thing that the tracks are really quiet? I'm more of a composer and I'm just barely getting my feet wet with mastering.

>>10913553
/jp/ Music Project sounds straightforward, but bland. How about /jp/compi 1?

>>10915407
There's nothing wrong with quiet music. Generally it's better to be too quiet than too loud because the listener can always turn the volume up. A little compression probably wouldn't hurt though, as it would give a bit more punch and a bit of saturation would add warmth. Given the music you make, I think quiet is exactly what it should be.

>>10915379
Look at her eyes, and look at her weird shaped mouth, just look at her ffs !

>>10915407
>You should always mix quietly and leave room for dynamic range.
As he says the important thing is to keep dynamic range. If a track clips you won't be able to do much with the mastering, but if it's too quiet you can still compress/increase volume so it's better too quiet than too loud.

>>10915471
>weird shaped mouth
It's cute!

>>10915052
I don't know how to use SVN so could someone please contribute these changes for me?

http://pastebin.com/6XLzR4cM
http://pastebin.com/fPRR0GHE

>>10915471
Stop
Or im going to have a heart attack...

>>10915512
What do you want Momiji ?

Why are you looking at me like that goddamnit !?

Momiji please stop it...

HHNNNGG

>>10915542
...that looks lewd!

Hey, can I be on the album? Acoustic arranges.

http://www.youtube.com/flamezero16

It's an eye !

>>10915542
>>10915534
>>10915528
>>10915524
Please stop
Its starting to hurt
Someone please call an ambulance

>>10915553
its a tree. ok?

>>10915490
done, i like your implementation. a couple of the sprite's methods need to be fixed so it renders x,y correctly, or i'll just change the camera bounds when i work on it tonight.

>>10915713
Thank you. I hope I can contribute more in the future.

>>10915598
Email me at jpmusicproject1@gmail.com. Note that if you're just going to be starting a piece now, it likely won't make it till we release.

>>10913699
If it's finished now, it's not too late. It's only too late if you've only started to make your track now.

I think we have enough contributors for a double disc release

I sent 4 songs just to add some variety but pick whichever one you guys like!

I used to be okay with these threads until OP proved himself an obnoxious asshole.

>>10916419
when was that?

>>10916411
If you're Captain Lunar, good job. The production is very clean. Incan is my favorite.

>>10916467
Thanks dude!

There are good songs in here guys this is great.

>>10916467
I think you also copied the album art in there with the music?

I've now taken the liberty of creating a poll for deciding the title of the Album. I reckon I should just send the link to the people involved. I made two polls: One, deciding the main title and Two for deciding the subtitle. There is also a "none" choice for the subtitle.

The entries I included are all the ones I saw proposed in this thread. All people involved should check their mail to get the link to the polls.

>>10916680
You should make it available to /jp/ as a whole because this project represents it to some extent.

>>10916725
i like this idea, so we could see the overall opinion. maybe duplicate the polls and have one public?

>>10916725
Hmm... I'm having reservations about that because, as with anything you post in /jp/, it's liable to be spammed by ne'er-do-wells and we might end up with a result that was decided primarily by a lot of spammers and shitposters.

>>10916743
A duplicate may be a better idea instead.

>>10916749
And there you go:
Title: http://poll.pollcode.com/uxpgm
Subtitle: http://poll.pollcode.com/zxol7

>>10916749
>it's liable to be spammed by ne'er-do-wells and we might end up with a result that was decided primarily by a lot of spammers and shitposters.
Thus is the will of /jp/. I think that's one of the philosophical obligations of something born from an anonymous imageboard. Because the project is born from the community and represents it, it should answer to the community at large.

>A duplicate may be a better idea instead.
I got no problems with this.

>>10912981
Nice, I like this.

I guess I'll drop these into the dropbox? See if any of them are of use. Mine is definitely not cover material though.

>>10917028
Wow, that's really nice! I think it's cover material, but because the background color is solid, it might work better as the back cover for the tracklisting.

>>10917028
Of course. May I ask if you would be available to do some edits once we decide which to use for which part of the album (and when we decide the real name of the project)? It would be something like placing the /jp/ Project label and, if it's decided to be the Back, it would need the tracks list (which also needs to be decided).

>>10917052
thanks!

>>10917061
Yes, of course. I'll be on standby.

And thus, on that note, let the voting begin on which of the two art designs should be used as the _cover_. The one with the most votes will be the Cover, and the other one will be the Back (i.e. If you want a design to be the back, vote for the other one).

Vote here:
http://poll.pollcode.com/uzcmg

This poll is only public because both entries are legit and will be included either way and I'm too lazy now to individually email all the participants again.

>>10917225
fuck, they're both really good but not related to each other at all.

i refuse to vote, but i would (A) change the background for /jp/music-chan to match the grey/silver background on the other image, and (B) put the track list on a separate (blank) page and leave the covers unblemished beyond any titles.

>>10917285
Hmm. That's a decent idea too, but it makes things a bit more complicated. How about we just decide this one and place a copy of both, without any edits, along with the edited versions, and call them "Page 1" and "Page 2", as if they're the inside jacket?

Please excuse the following comment and following criticism, and please take it as only my personal opinion and no more: I like the melodies of Jual's music, but specifically about the ones with Vocaloid singers, I think the voices are a bit too soft for me to hear what they're saying, much less understand it. In some parts, like in Empty Space, they even drop under the instruments. I do think that they're trying to sing in English, despite not being made for it, so I guess some of the lack of clarity can be excused for that.

You people mistreat my hobbies. I hate you I hate you I hate you

>>10917805

Bump for those who have just woken up and those who will wake up in a little while, the /jp/ Music Project One is currently voting for the following:

Title: http://poll.pollcode.com/uxpgm
Subtitle: http://poll.pollcode.com/zxol7
Cover: http://poll.pollcode.com/uzcmg

Polls will close sometime in the future...

>>10915598
I would love to hear your work on the album. Uploader-kun pls make this happen

>>10912697
Uploader here. So I've listened to all the tracks thoroughly, again.

So far, 12 artists have uploaded their track.
A total of 46 tracks have been uploaded for almost 3h of music.

>I think we have enough contributors for a double disc release

If we go one cd, with 1 track max per artist : 12 tracks

If we go one cd with 2 tracks max per artist : 20 tracks

If we go two cds with 1 track max per artist per cd : 10+10 tracks

If we go two cds with 2 tracks max per artist per cd : 16+16 tracks

Note that if we go two cds, we shouldn't blend all the tracks randomly but organise each cd with a theme, maybe one more electro oriented and the other more rock oriented, or one major oriented and the other minor oriented (these are just examples). Also maybe we should find two suitable subtitles for the cds in accordance with their theme.

I would go for 2 cds with 1-2 tracks per artist per cd and try to get close to 12+12 tracks.
I need to know your opinion/suggestion before make the album(s) layout.

Into The Dimensional Gerbera Event
Sorry but there's a last problem with this track, there's an unwanted burst of sound right at the start (if you use windows media player you may not hear it).

>>10918853

2 CDs sounds good. As for the number of tracks, I don't mind as long as everything is good quality and not just filler to make up the numbers.

wow the current poll results are spread so evenly

>>10918853
i like the 12+12 tracks idea. i suppose we would need some way to determine which tracks (for artists with 3+) are not included.

somebody must be fucking with the poll. i refuse to believe that 8 people voted "/jp/ compi 1"

>>10918920
The pools are completly trolled.

>>10918853

Uploader here.

I agree with the 2 CDs. An album with 20 tracks would be a little hard to swallow at once, and if we can make a bigger release that includes more music but spreads it out evenly then it won't be so hard to swallow.

>>10918912

Maybe polls again? Of course this is going to be a bit difficult again because of trolls, but we could have one for every artist and make 2 separate ones, one for /jp/ and one for the uploaders exclusively and decide from there.

Could someone please contribute this to the LollySprout project for me?

http://pastebin.com/1pD3UJ1b
http://pastebin.com/DMeBr3T1

>>10918975
>I agree with the 2 CDs
Coincidentally, we also have two very good covers. Genius. This is brilliant.

How do you guys make songs?
Is there some kind of program or do I have to sing?

>>10919023
>do I have to sing?
Did you even listen to the songs ? Nah you see I just happen to live in a castle and I have a rock band and a whole ochestra at my disposal.

>>10919023
If you want to start making music on a computer, you need a DAW (Digital Audio Workstation). There are plenty of them to buy or pirate, and you can download demos and see tutorials on YouTube to check if they work for you. Some of the popular ones among beginners are FL Studio, Ableton Live, Reaper and Cubase. If you're on a Mac, you can try Garageband too.

Once you have a DAW, you can look into getting VSTs, external plugins that may be new instruments or effects you can apply. I'd recommend learning sound design/synthesis so you can recreate sounds and even come up with your very own.

Having good samples (especially for percussion) is also very important, and there are plenty of professional packs with loops available on the Internet. However, there is a stigma about just using loops without altering them in any way and so it's considered to be in good taste to "chop", "slice" or manipulate them to make something new and yours out of them.

But the most important thing is to have fun. Music-making is a time-consuming hobby that can be stressful if one is expecting specific results, so if it starts getting on your nerves, take breaks; tired ears make mistakes and the quality of the mix tends to improve once you get back on it after an hour or two of not working.

I'll be here if you have any doubts, so don't be afraid to ask. No such thing as a dumb question.

>>10919067
Hey, are you that one DTM otaku from a few OC threads ago?

>>10919137
I'm the audio engineering otaku

>>10918975
>we would need some way to determine which tracks (for artists with 3+) are not included.
Seeing how the 3 public polls are being trolled I suggest we should keep this beetween the uploaders.

>>10919153
So not the one who gave me all those mixing and mastering tips some time ago? Well never mind then~

>>10919161
>mixing and mastering tips
is this in the archive?
i went through in audacity and de-amplified all the peaks that were clipping so i could amplify the entire track a few decibels. i feel like there must be a tool that does this for you.

>>10919215
Yes what you need is a "compressor".

>>10919240
when i used the compressor tool in audacity it didn't help with the peaks very much. maybe it just amplified everything else. i'll try it again next time.

>>10919023

Pretty much what >>10919067 said. Especially about everything sucking at first.

Additionally, I use Vocaloids. There is apparently a VST plug-in for them, but also function as a stand-alone application. So, basically, I write a song first, make a vocal melody for it, and combine everything in the DAW (V3 has a mixer but my DAW's is better).

My DAW come with a bunch of snyths (and I assume most popular ones do) and you can use a MIDI controller or your computer's keyboard (depending on the DAW) to record stuff using those synths. Most will also have ways for importing/recording/editing audio clips, so you can record music live if you're so inclined.

I have a track that I would like you guys to add to the album. The title is Subhuman mating call and the artist is everyone's favorite freak Sparky 4.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ws5CyvPtNo

>>10913072
You sound like Tsunku and I find that incredibly moe.

>>10913629
I like these!!

This Project is getting pretty big.
Good job.

>>10918853
Still the same guy here, I'm CitronSec btw.
So I've been thinking hard for the albums layout..
I went for 3 tracks max per artists for the whole release...

CD1 (or 2 I don't know) :
1. Rhetorics
2. A Misaligned Pulchride
3. Lovely Girls Anthem
4. Furniture
5. You Are Worthless
6. Locked Girl " Luna Dial
7. Into The Dimensional Gerbera Event
8. A Miracle
9. Devil's Adorable Disciple
10. Daydream in a Cup
11. The Deceiver of the Dimension Ennea
12. Let's Rock This
13. Grimoire of Alice
Duration 51:45

CD2 :
1. Ascend
2. reunion
3. Mr. Palm Tree
4. wanderer
5. Aftermath
6. Like the Sun
7. Celestial # Spell Cards
8. Superficial
9. Canopy Mist
10. Empty Space
11. Unmotivated
12. Floating Islands
13. Gensokyo Past and Present
Duration 51:57

So I tried to balance the albums in terms of vocal/non-vocal, duration, intensity, and of course number of tracks.
In CD1 we have 3 tracks featuring vocals, in CD2 we have 2 tracks plus Unmotivated ans Ascend which contain some kind of vocals.
In terms of intensity I've roughly estimated each track and I've tried to balance the albums, however CD2 happens to be more intense.

CD1 is rock and instrumental oriented with the exception of Lovely Grils Anthem that seems out of place, but I choose to put it there to balance the albums. CD2 is electro oriented with the exception of Like the Sun and Gensokyo Past and Present, but it seems that Like the Sun fits pretty well between Aftermath and Celestial # Spell Cards. For Gensokyo Past ans Present, I put it there so that the two albums finish with similar tracks (instrumental guitar), I find that it gives a sens of unity between the albums.

I used 3 tracks max per person because if I went 12+12 tracks I had to choose the people among the 3+ uploaders who would have only 2 tracks included.

>>10920606
I don't know, man, Lovely Girls Anthem should be on CD2 even though that'd make it have a 14-12 proportion.

>>10918920
/jp/ compi is really just /jp/ Compilation Vol. 1 shortened. You could pool the two together probably. One could be the title and the other an informal name for it.

>>10920718
>even though that'd make it have a 14-12 proportion.
Nothing wrong with this. There's literally no reason that each CD can't have different amounts of tracks.

This board doesn't need any kind of project.

One day it will be forgotten anyway and you'll cry again how badly you want to die and how depressed you are with your lives.

>>10920923
Christ, why is there always a Negative Nancy in every /jp/ thread? Please take it easy.

>>10920923
>One day it will be forgotten anyway and you'll cry again how badly you want to die and how depressed you are with your lives.
So what if that's the case? Take things for what they are. So what if tomorrow is going to be a bad day? This shouldn't stop any of us from being able to enjoy a happy moment today. There's nothing wrong with having a hobby that gives you some sort of satisfaction and if there's anything /jp/ needs as a board is entertainment and distraction.

>>10920955

Seriously, this shouldn't be anything new.

>>10920967
you're right, /jp/sie, please continue to take it easy and don't mind the detractors.

>>10920970
I don't remember them being so pervasive and outspoken. Even late night /jp/ isn't safe anymore.

>>10920955
I don't like this thread because probably half of the artists of your project are annoying people with jobs and girlfriends and all of that stuff and the other half doesn't even know about it.

Are you really fine with working with that kind of people???

>>10921042
As long as they are talented, I couldn't give more than a single shit about who they are in real life.

>>10921048
Way to make people feel like meat~

>>10921042
Is your inferiority complex kicking in? Noone is looking down on you, I promise. You make it seem like you're even worth a glance.

>>10921048
I sometimes don't understand /jp/. How can you NOT be angry that these people are here? How can you NOT be angry that these people say they have the same hobbies as you?

I cannot stay calm like this even if I wanted to. It makes me sad and depressed day after day when thinking about this. I cannot ignore it.

>>10921042
>probably half of the artists of your project are annoying people with jobs and girlfriends and all of that stuff

[citation needed]

>>10921089
I couldn't trust anyone if I was part of the project.

>>10921042
> half of the artists of your project are annoying people with jobs and girlfriends
As an artist on there I can tell you I'm not one of those and I seriously doubt anybody else is either. Even if they were, we're all /jp/ers and I like to think that we all love otaku culture. 4chan is not a secret club. If you want somebody to be mad with, go complain to the shitposters. They're likely the ones inviting the ilk you're referring to, not a thread like this.

>>10921077
There sure are some people like this here, I mean how could there not be ? But if they're here and they want to participate in a project called "/jp/..." it means that they still belong among us.

>>10921096

You've been spamming the thread with your shitty paranoid ramblings for 2 or 3 days now. Whatever happened to ``taking it easy''? Why must you bring your paranoid neo-/jp/ worries to this thread?

I really doubt that someone with a name like "Ganjameister" has any friends or a girlfriend, so please stop worrying and just ignore this thread.

If you would like to bother people, go to the Idol Generals because those threads are full of fags and trash that don't belong.

>>10921098
>Even if they were, we're all /jp/ers and I like to think that we all love otaku culture.
I don't want them to say they love it. These are the words that hurt me the most.
>>10921120
So they can just take everything and participate in everything they want? They already have so many other things but they also want to be a part of this?
These things are the only ones that are truly important in my life.

>>10921077
You ignore it and think about something else. Done deal. You seem crushed not only that people you hate share the same hobbies as you, but also that nobody else seems to lose their shit over it like you are.

>These things are the only ones that are truly important in my life.
Then put on your big girl panties and suck it up.

>>10921137
I could stay somewhat calm in the past but it doesn't work anymore.

>>10921149
Get over yourself.

>>10921154
"crushed" isn't enough to describe how I feel at me moment. I think I'm seriously losing my mind right now.

>>10921158

There is no other choice. I am sure a lot of people sometimes get frustrated at the normals and /a/ kids but there is absolutely nothing that can be done to stop them. /jp/ is seen as a hip, cool place because of all the amazing content that has been produced in its short life.

We can only dream that maybe one day everyone on /jp/ who uses twitter, facebook, tumblr, IRC, formspring, /ghost/ and every single person in the /jp/ steam group all die. This would see the quality of /jp/ improve massively. It will probably not happen, though.

>>10921149
>I don't want them to say they love it. These are the words that hurt me the most.
This is stupid. There's no indication that they even exist. Even if they did, you are shallow and so is your love for your hobby if you denigrate on the basis of image alone. You have completely forsaken the substance of otaku culture and instead have used it to comfort yourself and wallow in your insecurities. It does not belong to you and you're a fool for thinking so. I would take a douchebag with a job and girlfriend who really loves otaku culture over a disingenuous clown like you any day.

>>10921158
I'm sorry anon, but if they want to be here it's their right, there's no rule stating that if you have a girlfriend you can't like touhou or otaku culture.
If they're here it means that /jp/ means something to them too, you can't just ban them because you don't like them.

Humans are apex predators, and the results of millions of years of evolution. We do whatever the fuck we want. Even those lacking confidence in the impact of our lifespan, and with a nihilistic viewpoint, are an existence beyond the normal trash of this mortal coil. Embrace what it means to be /jp/. Rise as a elite of the plebeian, with a mindset that has succumbed to the inevitability of lifes failures, yet has the ability to overcome and create regardless.

>>10921199
>it means that /jp/ means something to them too

More often than not it's the shitposting and memes.

>>10921210
Then why are they in this thread creating great content for /jp/ to enjoy?

>>10921210
"Real" /jp/ posters are not exempt from shitposting. It is inseparable from the board itself. Fuck, we were /a/ runoff from the start, I don't know why people think this place is some secret haven when it's always been a shitposting den. It's like if /soc/ started complaining about "/b/ trash".

>>10921217
Best defense right here: if they're producing good content, they're either not as shitty as stated or they're not the kind of posters the guy was talking about. Either way, checkmeido motherfucker.

>>10921217

Who said they are here? I just meant normies in general. I have no idea who is contributing to this thread but I hope it is real 100% OG tru-/jp/sies

I wake up with an insane amount of anger and fall asleep with the same amount of anger, and this is going on for weeks or even months already. In the past I could just ignore it but something has changed in me. Maybe this is a mental breakdown, I just want all of them to vanish from everything otaku related.

>>10921238
the nature of anonymous image boards is that you'll never truly know. Just believe in the content, anon-san.

>>10921244
I hope you understand you are being a worse poster than "normies" ever could be with this attitude.

>>10921238
What is a 100% OG tru-/jp/sie anyway ? There always someone on the board who's gonna be "more normal" than you.

>>10921042
/jp/ - Otaku Culture
Not NEET culture
Not /r9k/ culture

"How to hide your loli figs from your gf" is a valid /jp/ topic.

>>10921244
And you think shitposting will make them vanish ? Your rage is vain.

>>10921217
>>10921233
I don't want to hear that shit.Whatever these people create cannot be enjoyable. They don't have the right to draw cute girls or make other cute things. I hate them so much. I hate whatever they create.

>>10921255

Only a high functioning autist hikki neet aged at least 25 years old who has an interest in all aspects of Otaku Culture (trains, tea, NEET, bridges etc) Living the normie life in their teenage years is acceptable only if they were a badass delinquent.

Anyone who does not fit this description needs to go to back to /a/.

>>10921244
I understand the sentiment, but it's not that a job or girlfriend that makes a person a subcultural parasite. It's ignorance and the blind devotion to a culture of consumption in conjunction with egocentrism. It's the metastasizing of an empty identity via stolen cultural symbols. Trust me, I hate people like Danny Choo. I hate his followers. I hate normalfags as well. But I also realize that something I love should be shared, and there are honest normals out there, not everyone is an asshole.

The irony is that your feverish ranting would suggest that you yourself have created an empty identity out of the symbols found on this board and you're afraid that as others do the same, you'll lose who you are. You're not much different from the people you're damning.

>>10921273
See? You just proved you're not here for the cute girls in frilly dresses. If you care about the origin or something than the product, you are not objective and, as with all things subjective, it pertains only to the subject, i.e. you. None of us has to give a shit about your feelings if you're not bringing any objectivity to the table. If you did, it'd be something that affects all of us.

>>10921273
Please seek help before you hurt yourself.

>>10921244

>so bored that having a mental breakdown sounds fun
>doesn't know how to have a mental breakdown
>shitposts for attention instead
>anons, possibly himself, keep feeding.

Yup, /jp/ alright.

>>10920606
Vandrao here

Can we replace Furniture with Endless Waltz? That's basically the only thing that I would like to change here.

Other than that, thank you for taking the time to put together an awesome layout! If there is anything that others of us can do please do say so.

>>10921320

>>10921327
EPIC picture dude!

>>10921320
the irony in it lies in the fact there is virtually no distinction between the behavior of purists and trolls in this board, because it's them and not the "normies" who let it get to this pont

"any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company", indeed

>>10921325
>Can we replace Furniture with Endless Waltz?
Of course. Thank you for giving attention to my post in the mist of this shitposting.

>>10921320
No one asked your opinion, crossboarder.

12 and 14 is fine, imo, but put the 14-track CD first because otherwise it will be weird. i dont really know why but it would be weird that way.

>>10921296
>>10921300
Please stop defending those people already. As long as they are there I cannot become happy again.

I'm not trolling for fucks sake I just want to fix this whole mess.

what is the "/jp/ project"? Is it just for an album?
Or can we do more than music?
(Doujins, art, VNs, etc. etc.)

>>10921366
What if they are defending themselves ?

>>10921371

There is an album which is in the last stages. There is a game of some sorts in production. Any other project is welcome except perhaps art which would belong in the "/jp/ OC Thread".

All of this information, and more, is available in the OP post if you actually take the time to read it.

>>10921371
Right now it's music and a loli-growing game. I'm sure anything is fair game.

remember when we had a quarterly magazine for this?

>>10921366
enjoy being miserable then

>>10921371

Yes, the intent is that it can be anything. Much like the loli-simulator.

The only requirement is that you actually want to work on something and will contribute to it.

There's also a lot of people who seem to need a kick in the ass before they commit to anything, but hopefully that won't be a big problem.

>>10921348
Thank you.

True /jp/ers are not capable of creating anything. We are mere consumers, leeches of the highest caliber. We hoard things other people created, we masturbate to scenarios illustrated by someone else and we die without having contributed anything to society.

>>10921393
Please stop projecting.

>>10921393
No.

>>10921393

Your waste pays for the garbage man's job; the rent for your landlords. Your death for the funeral home.

You will always contribute something to society, whether you want to or nor.

>>10921393
There must be some who create beautiful things but they shouldn't be together in the same group with these assholes who are trying to take everything in the world as they please.

>>10921393
By your definition, a true /jp/er would never post but lurk forever. Once again, checkmeido.

>>10921406
I dropped out of college so that I could shitpost more.

>>10921371
Yes. But I do apologize for the /jp/ Music Project inadvertently dominating the discussion in this thread. As said in the OP, there is also another project, a game, going on as well, but the participants aren't as... talkative. More projects are, of course welcome to get started.

>>10918853
>Into The Dimensional Gerbera Event
>Sorry but there's a last problem with this track, there's an unwanted burst of sound right at the start (if you use windows media player you may not hear it).
Holy fuck, that's right. And I can hear it in wmp too. That's embarrassing. How the hell did that happen, I wonder? I'll fix it right quick.

>>10920606
I was really having problems thinking of how to select tracks for the album release, but hey, look at you with that list - if we can get all participants to agree with that list, probably with just a few track swaps, reordering and such, that'd be swell.

The two cd idea sounds good to me as well, so we can go on ahead with that. But we now need to decide which cd gets which cover.

>>10921435

Jual here, I'm cool with whatever stuff you use form me.

>>10921386
Noctures?

>>10921450
so close yet so far away.

>>10921459
You're not talking about FCM, are you?

>>10921483
Was FCM a real magazine? I though it was just a troll cover...

>>10921487
You mean real like there was actually content inside? I think so. I never bothered to check.

=== Selection / Votes ===
Subtitle of /jp/ Music Project One (Project Poll)

Top: Audioglomerate / 4
Runners-up:
None / 1
Enjoyee Your NEETtime / 1
Please Don't Bully / 1

Title of /jp/ Music Project One (Project Poll)

Top: /jp/ Music Compilation One / 4
Runners-up:
/jp/ Music Project One / 2
/jp/ Collective Sound Vol.1 / 2

Title of /jp/ Music Project One (Public)

Top: /jp/ Music Project One / 12
Runners-up:
Misunderstood Genuises / 9
/jp/ - Ongaku Culture / 9

Subtitle of /jp/ Music Project One (Public)

Tied for the top:
None / 9
Enjoyee Your NEETtime / 9

I'm going to let the polls run for one last day to see if the tie will break. However, I'm currently partial to taking the project poll results over the public poll because the public poll is not controlled against spammers and shitposters.

I did not post the result of which will be the album cover, because now that we have 2 cds, that's meaningless now. But in any case, the result would have been >>10912981 as the cover.

>>10921597
>spammers and shitposters
>9 votes

whoa nelly the shitposter masses have really been organised just to sabotage your subtitle, dude!!

>>10921614
I only took the top votes. Obviously, there are more choices than these and lesser votes were not posted.

>>10921614

...That's the result of the private poll.

>>10921638
>Subtitle of /jp/ Music Project One (Public)
>Tied for the top:
>None / 9
>Enjoyee Your NEETtime / 9
Yes it was, he was talking about the subtitle poll, I think. But given that the runners up to that were tied with 8 votes, it is simple to see how big the effect of even 1 vote is.

>>10921638

lol

>>10921632

Actually, thinking about it I am wrong to question you. Really the subtitle should be down to the people actually involved in the project not just the bystanders like myself.

Although it is a "/jp/ Project" it would not exist without the work of the contributors. So please, go with what they want.

I wish there was a way for me to contribute. Sadly though I have no skills that can really add anything to the project.
I'm excited for whats to come, though.

>>10921676

1) Can you open MS Paint (or similar program)?
2) Can you click a mouse?
3) Can you see?

If you answered yes to all of the above, congratulations! You can draw sprites! The Loli-harvest-moon project could use people, just like you!

>>10921676
You can start working on those skills, though. >>10919067
is a short tutorial on how to compose music on computers. Every day is a good day to start a hobby.

>>10921698
>>10921703
Wow
Thanks you guys
I'll try out both and see if I can come up with something.

>>10921755
Have fun!

>>10918996
thanks, added this stuff (and then changed some other stuff afterwards)
i need to figure out why the transparency isn't working when there's a terrain sprite behind her.

also do you guys think the camera should always be centered on the player, or should there be fixed camera areas (eg. each 7x5 tile area is its own camera and it only moves when you cross an area's border).
i think most rpgs have the camera fixed on the player.

>>10921137
>I really doubt that someone with a name like "Ganjameister" has any friends or a girlfriend
lel.

>>10921783
Cameras that aren't fixed on the player are annoying.

Is there a reason she moves in terms of grid spaces?

I love Crinkles' Aftermath track. Great job on this - it is a sublime mix of melody and emotion and I can see myself listening to this in repeat for many more days to come.

>>10922145
i was thinking of using grid spaces similar to the pokemon games. maybe free movement would be better.

>>10922194
Thanks dude, glad you like it

>>10922281
Who knows. I was just asking if there was a gameplay relevant reason. It kind of reminds me of number/word munchers with that huge grid.

>>10921755
Just remember to have fun and take it easy. Don't worry about quality at first and don't force yourself, you'll only quit halfway if you don't enjoy doing it. Plus you'll get better anyway with time if you keep having fun with it. Good luck!

>>10922145
>>10922281
Since there will be plantations in this game it's ok to have grids, but the grid could be smaller.

I made a tentative track list image.

>>10917028
Thanks! Your coloring is brilliant.

>>10922339
I like your "Traces" and "Dreaming Again" too.
Don't you post them?

>>10920606
Changes :
Lovely Girls Anthem > CD2
Furniture > Endless Waltz

But since I have OCD 12-14 is not oaky for me. Also by moving Lovely Girls Anthem, CD2 has now more vocals and is globally more intense, so I wanted to move a vocal and dynamic track to CD1.
I decided to move Ascend to CD1... I still not sure about that, what do you think ? It has a instrumental touch that goes well with the rest of the album and it gives back some vocalish content. It's a shame because It made a great opening track for CD2.
So we need now a new opening track :
Unmotivated > Ican
I like the 2 tracks and I was hesiting which one to include since the beggining, so now Ican is the opening track.

CD1 :
1. Rhetorics
2. A Misaligned Pulchride
3. Ascend
4. Endless Waltz
5. You Are Worthless
6. Locked Girl " Luna Dial
7. Into The Dimensional Gerbera Event
8. A Miracle
9. Devil's Adorable Disciple
10. Daydream in a Cup
11. The Deceiver of the Dimension Ennea
12. Let's Rock This
13. Grimoire of Alice
Duration 53:51

CD2 :
1. Incan
2. Lovely Girls Anthem
3. Mr. Palm Tree
4. wanderer
5. Aftermath
6. Like The Sun
7. Celestial // Spell Cards
8. Superficial
9. Canopy Mist
10. Empty Space
11. reunion
12. Floating Islands
13. Gensokyo Past and Present
Duration : 50:50

So we now have 2.5 vocal tracks on CD1 and 3 vocal tracks on CD2, so for me it's balanced.
The only thing is that CD1 is now 3 minutes longer but meh.

Polls will be closed from this point on.

I've thought about it a bit and I think I can give a bit more lenience in naming the album based on the following:

The main album title will follow the result of the project poll result, and be called, hereforth:

"/jp/ Music Compilation One"

However, in light of the 2 cd release, we can be able to take the winning subtitles from both the Project Poll, which is "Audioglomerate", and the Public Poll, which is "Enjoyee Your NEETtime" (actually, it was still tied to 'none', but taking that would be paradoxical).

Now, all we need to do is to choose which cd, and I am happy with the list here >>10923408, will get which title, and consequently, which cover design.

Personally, Audioglomerate sounds a bit high-tech and heavy to me, so that links it to CD2 for me, which means CD1 would get Enjoyee Your NEETtime. However, in that case, a certain track will be severely out of place in CD1, The Deceiver of the Dimension Ennea, so I'd then swap that out with Catdoll Rhythm.

In terms of art.... I thought that >>10912981 looks more techno and rock, but the character looks like she's really "Enjoyee-ng" herself. So, I think I'll go with >>10912981 to be CD1, Enjoyee your NEETtime and >>10917028
to be CD2, Audioglomerate.

What does everyone think of this assignment?

>>10923461
I like it. Please keep up the good work

>>10923461
The problem is that when we choose the subtitles, it was in the idea of having one CD only. Now that we have two CD organized by theme, the subtitles we choose beforehead are irrevelant. I'm sorry but I think we should think all over for the subtitles.
>However, in that case, a certain track will be severely out of place in CD1, The Deceiver of the Dimension Ennea, so I'd then swap that out with Catdoll Rhythm.
Dude you want to conform the contents with the subtitle ? That's bullshit, we should create the subtitle in accordance with the contents but never the other way.
Plus if The Deceiver of the Dimension Ennea is out of place, then my track You Are Worthless is also out of place.
I like The Deceiver of the Dimension Ennea plus you'vez created it especially for this release it would be stupid to not include it.

>>10923487
Right, then. Does any one else reckon we should just scrap the subtitles instead? Just put cd.1 and cd.2 on?

>>10923487
CD1 definitly has a darker aura with more minor (I mean minor in term of melody) tracks, it is clear that "Enjoyee Your NEETtime" is not a proper subtitle.
Since we have Audioglomerate as a subtitle, the subtitle for CD1 should reflect the other CD by having a one word subtitle that feels the same than Audioglomerate.
I'm thinking about consotium consorsymphony consorsound or something.

>>10923403
I posted those tracks in the OC thread when I made them, if that's what you mean

>>10923524
I agree with this guy, but instead, we can put them as cd.1 and cd.A or something like that. That way, it will look like no cd is more prioritized than the other. Equality and all that.

>>10923461
why not call it vol.1?
yes i'm that autistic

>>10923526
Musicoalition
Consorchestra
Sound Aggregation

Did nobody upload the 2 /jp/ themesongs to the CD? Or is it not that kind of project? Sorry I haven't really been following.

>>10923575
>Sound Aggregation
I support this.

>>10923597
I also like the idea.

>>10923597
>>10923608
I agree with them

>>10923597
>>10923608
>>10923616

Ok so :

/jp/ Music Compilation One
Sound Aggregation

/jp/ Music Compilation One
Adioglomerate

>>10923621
Perfect

>>10923632
Allright we're almost done /jp/ !

Now for the covers :
>>10912981
>>10917028
Which one goes where ?

I've listenend to the albums and I think there's still minor changes to do in the order, I'll let you know when I'm sure.

There was someone who offered to do the mastering in the other thread, are you still here ?

>>10923632
Well, I'm glad that's sorted out - now what of the album art? Is the assignment I proposed alright?That is CD1 gets >>10912981 and CD2 gets >>10917028.

>>10923643
Most of the tracks there are mastered/loud already, so it'd be redundant overcompression that'd do no favors to the audio. Not only that, there's even more compression going on if the source is an mp3 file. I'm an audio engineer and I could help with the mastering if you really needed, but I need wav files with no compression or limiter on the master bus.

>>10923647
Either is good. I have not listened to the tracks yet, so I don't know which fits better. I prefer to wait until it's out.

Speaking of which, we've been deciding this or that for a while now, but has everybody who is working on their tracks finished and submitted to the dropbox?Tthis would all have been pretty silly if it turns out we're still waiting for some.

>>10923664
Ok in fact I don't know much about mastering, I just heard somewhere that you had to master the album, add silence between tracks and egalize volume, that kind of stuff. I would like you to do that since you're an audio engineer I think you know what you're doing.

>>10923643
>There was someone who offered to do the mastering in the other thread, are you still here ?

That was probably me. And yeah what the other guy said is accurate. People will need to go back and bounce uncrunched WAV files if you want this done properly.

Kids these days have no idea what dynamic range is, it's a fucking shame. At least the new Daft Punk album has room to breathe.

>>10923675
I think it's too late now, or else it'll never ends. We can still start a new album project after this one.

>>10923621
>/jp/ Music Compilation One
>Sound Aggregation


absolutely disgusting. the project is doomed to fail with a gay ass name like that

janny please del

>>10923708
i really don't know why some people are insistent on having the word "music" in it. what else kind of compilation is it going to be? /jp/ porn collection?

Do we still need album art?

>>10923713
this, i still want to draw. but i don't want to intrude.

>>10923709
Do you want to turn that idea into a project?

>>10923716
Let's make a promotional poster, for fun.

>>10923709
It could be.

>>10923709
>i really don't know why some people are insistent on having the word "music" in it
that's what i was thinking. this >>10923708 does sound awkward, although as long as you disconnect the title and subtitle when you put them on the cover i don't think it's a big issue.

>>10923664
on this note, we should probably get everyone to upload a lossless version somewhere, or agree on a bitrate if we're just going with mp3s. i saw some v0 and 320kbps.
if there's enough room in the dropbox, maybe just add another folder for artists to drop WAV (or FLAC?) versions.

>>10923621
I am really excited about/want to support this project, but since I voted for something else in the polls, I don't like it.
This sounds kind of hipster /mu/ to me. Just my opinion, but it's how I feel.

>>10923776

Agreed. The subtitles are very pretentious!

>>10923767
>>10923776
>>10923779
Ok guys we'll change the subtitles, I'll let you choose this time.

>>10923789

bring back "Enjoyee Your NEETtime"

>>10923793
For what CD ?

>>10923776
I'd be extremely on board with it if it's all original music written, recorded, and produced by /jp/sies and not just weird Youtube finds.

>>10923800

I don't care I just think the "Sound Aggregation" title is awful. Call it whatever you like just don't make it sound pretentious as heck

>>10923793

>>10923776 here, I agree with this guy. This and Anti-Bullying Ranger are the only ones I can remember right off from the polls.

>>10923802
Oh no, i was under that impression. Is this not OC?

>>10923806
>Oh no, i was under that impression. Is this not OC?
I don't know. I have not listened to all of it yet. I really, really hope it's all OC though.

>>10923806

It is all original work produced by /jp/sies. I have no idea what this guy >>10923802
is talking about

I just guess he didn't both to read any of the thread

i think audioglomerate sounds cool. personally, i'm fine with what you originally said here >>10923461

CD1 :
/jp/ Music Compilation One
Enjoyee Your NEETtime

CD2 :
/jp/ Music Compilation One
Audioglomerate

So does /jp/ agree on that ?
As >>10923461 said, "Enjoyee Your NEETtime" does not reflect the album's content.

>>10923817

it's made by tru /jp/ NEETs and NOT filthy crossboarders, right? so it works fine. unless you are saying the "/jp/ album" is more like the "crossboarders from /a/mu/v/ music collection"

I like the sound of Enjoyee Your NEETtime. Sounds really relaxing.

>>10923823
I'm pretty sure you're being paranoid and that it's truNEET /jp/sies.

>>10923817
That said, I don't really understand how the former titles reflected the content either? I'm sorry; I promise I'm not trying to be difficult.

>>10923823
Wtf how can I know this. This project is open to anyone so I can't even make sure my mom isn't contributing here.
We had a whole debate on this already.

>>10923823
>>10923806
>>10923793
Confirmed for shitposters.

Please ignore them, and to those guys: kill yourselves out of /jp/.

>>10923829
You're not a very nice person.

>>10923817
I think ``Music Project One" sounds better so that we can use a standardised naming scheme for everything /jp/ creates.

For example, the Loli game might be ``/jp/ Game Project One" and if there was an animation that would be ``/jp/ Animation Project One".

>>10923832
I agree with this guy

>>10923827
You're right it was not, except now it's even contrary to its contents.
>I like the sound of Enjoyee Your NEETtime. Sounds really relaxing.
Listen to The Deceiver of the Dimension Ennea and You Are Worthless and tell me if that's relaxing.

ITT : people who didn't even listen to the submitted tracks.

>>10923829

2 of those are me and I am not a shitposter. I have been following this since it first began and I have a great passion for this project. I am warmly waiting for the full release so I can listen to the album at my leisure.

I am also pretty sure I was the first person to mention a /jp/ album in the first thread so I should have a final say on any of this stuff

>>10923817
>>10923827
Just call it /jp/ music compilation volume 1 and 2 and be done with it. Having any sort of creative, non-meme title is obviously too much for /jp/'s autism to handle.

Although, given the project leader, they feel like they should be called "Obsession" and "Compulsion"

>>10923767
.....

Guys, seriously, you don't need lossless, You honestly won't be able to hear the difference with a sufficiently oversampled mp3 (or other lossy encoder). I'm an EE, I studied audio in college. They only way you could possibly hear the difference is you got extremely unlucky on where the samples fell, and then you'd only hear a very, very slight difference on the high-frequency stuff (like symbol hits).

It's like asking for someone to send the original file instead of a .zip You don't lose anything in the zip compression, it's all still there and works perfectly fine.

Or, to put it another way, you still have loss in a 'lossless' file because the're all quantized waveforms, not the actual wave itself. Until we find a way to actually store sound waves without sampling, everything will have 'loss'.

This is also assuming that you have a sound card and speaker system capable of faithfully reproducing the sounds, which most people don't. Protip: speakers have a certain frequency range that they're best for, no single set of speakers (like headphones) can faithfully reproduce every sound thrown at them.

>>10923841
or /jp/ Music Compilation vol.1, discs 1 and 2.

Alright let's have a poll then, I hope it won't be trolled this time. I'll make one immediatly give your suggestions now.

>>10923841
I like those subtitles.

>>10923848

/jp/ music compilation

CD J
CD P

no subtitles

>>10923844
But muh rotational velocidensity.
Muh flac
Muh deteriorating lossy formats

>>10923832
>>10923837
great, so you want to make sure all future projects sound like shit too.
"jp music project X" really sounds more like a temporary title rather than a real one.

The unused titles / subtitles can always be used for future albums too, and they could serve as the themes for said albums

>>10923853
I like it!

With some awesome typography it would make for a sweet as hell design.

>>10923858
Look dude we're just expressing our opinions, or are /jp/ers not supposed to contribute to this?

>>10923860
This

>>10923853
I think this person may be on to something.

i think we should call the whole album "autism"

>>10923839
Oh shit son, do you own the IP too? Are you gonna send takedown requests to youtube is any of the music is uploaded there? Do you need royalties on any sales?

Also Anti-bully ranger is a shitty name and Yuru Yuri is a shitty show and /jp/ is not about NEETs, which is not otaku or even Japanese.

>>10923853
this

the names are too much trouble

>>10923866
>>10923861

I think it avoids the problem of CD 1 / 2 so no CD is more important or "first". It also gives each CD a nice subtitle of sorts without worrying about themes or who likes what. Also, /jp/ music compilation should just stick now because people will never be happy and the argument will go on forever. Please consider it uploader

>>10923853
i have suggestions but this is probably the one we can agree on. though i still prefer "/jp/ collective sound vol.X" more

>>10923866
i'm sorry. like i said, it doesn't sound like a official title at all. it sounds like a working title.

>>10923881
I disagree with you but feel your concern is a valid one. I'm accepting of the currently voted on Compilation name. I was mostly trying to suggest subtitles, though I personally do prefer /jp/ Music Project, it is just what I prefer.

>>10923834
Sorry, but I think the majority of the tracks sound relaxing. Just because two songs aren't at all relaxing doesn't mean that name doesn't fit the overall theme and the rest of the songs.

http://poll.pollcode.com/4dpok
For the title.
Give your suggestions for the subtitles now.

Why can't we just pile up on names for now and then have a poll later? Are we in a rush or something?

>>10923844
A few things you said don't really make sense.

First of all, >>10923664 wasn't referring to the difference between wav and mp3, but rather the difference between a compressed an uncompressed mix. The presence of compressors/eqs/limiters on the master bus does have a VERY audible effect on any track, regardless of what format it's saved in, and that's obviously what >>10923664 was talking about. >>10923767, who probably isn't an audio specialist, obviously misunderstood >>10923664's point and (probably because wav files were mentioned) thought he was talking about file formats, i.e. lossless vs. lossy DATA compression, which isn't even remotely related sound-wise to AUDIO compression.

That aside, your ZIP file comparison isn't a good comparison, because you can recreate an exact copy from a ZIP, which cannot be done from an mp3. That's the definition of lossless vs. lossy compression. You do loose data when you convert to mp3, but you don't when you convert to ZIP.

Additionally, stating that all audio files are lossy because they are sample based seems rather erroneous when (assuming we are talking about music made using computers), most songs are created digitally in such a way that there is no "original" analog version. If you're talking about music that can be performed live with non-digital instruments, then yes, there is a difference, but with digital synths you're always going to be limited fidelity-wise to the sample rate that the sound is created at.

>>10923888
I like ``Misunderstood Geniuses" as the single subtitle for the album.

And I thought "Sound Aggregation" was pretentious.

>>10923844
All that being said, I agree with you 100% about how worrying about lossless vs. lossy file formats is stupid. The difference between a decently high bitrate mp3 and a flac/wav file is negligible to the point that it is only discernible by people who've purchased a good system and carefully trained their ears by listening to the same tracks over and over again, for the sole purpose of bragging on audio forums about how they only listen to lossless music.

http://poll.pollcode.com/4rpdc
For the subtitle.

>>10923899
i was just saying that most people (myself included) would at least prefer the album tracks to all have the same encoding, regardless of whether it's lossy or lossless. i wasn't really commenting on what the other guy said.

>>10923916
This, please

My OCD couldn't handle it otherwise.

So uhmm. Do we have a deadline/release date yet? Cause I, uhhh, I think I still sort of need to tweak my track a bit one of these days.

this what i was thinking

>>10923925
The artists could do the encodes later. I uploaded mp3's so it would be easier to share on Dropbox without hogging a lot of space. Once we get our shit together and get everything organized we'll start encoding.

>>10923925
320 CBR for everything would be ideal. I can provide WAV/FLAC for my track just in case anyone wants it.

>>10923944
I'm all for the J disk and P disk idea too, but wouldn't it be cooler to have the J closer to the right upper corner so that if you put both CD covers together it'd spell JP and have them be like two halves of a single object, kinda?

>>10923899


>most songs are created digitally in such a way that there is no "original" analog version. If you're talking about music that can be performed live with non-digital instruments, then yes, there is a difference, but with digital synths you're always going to be limited fidelity-wise to the sample rate that the sound is created at.

Yes, that was the point.

What you just said is, rephrased, 'there is no such thing as a lossless digital sound file'.

It is not erroneous to say they are all lossy, it is factual. It's like how the word 'theory' is abused in common language. But that is a discussion for another time.

I realize that one group was talking bout compressors, I was making sure we nipped any 'lossless' stuff in the bud so we don't get dragged into a pointless fight of trying to pander to audiophiles.

>>10923950
yeah that's true. i didn't want to draw a line on the teddy bear.

A quick look at this thread shows me this is not a "/jp/" project.

>>10924000
A quick look at your mum shows me you're a son of a bitch.

>>10924000
It's a project by /jp/, for /jp/, where users who aren't directly contributing with music or art can still help with ideas and by voting. I can't see why people would try to start drama when they could be having fun with the rest of us... and it's not even like the only project here is the musical one, although it has been the most popular so far.

>>10923944
Good idea, terrible layout though.

>>10923944
J' Side and 'P' Side rhyme with 'A' Side and 'B' Side

>>10924000
jp is just a board, it's may not be the magical fantasyland you believe it is. and even if that's the case, it's fine either way. stop bullying.

>>10923944
Maybe like this?

With a font that's thicker.