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Wow, no replies?

i feel for u

new caster you guys

Yeah but the caster doesn't work well with pads.
When it gets further along then it'll be useful.
Until then there's still mauve's tool.

>>10772851
The great thing is that it's getting further along like every day.

>>10772860
The statement that he is working on a rollback one is whats keeping my hopes up.

>>10772920
Rollback?

>>10773002
Rollback is a method of controlling game state synchronization that greatly mitigates the effects of networking delay (ping and such).
It basically simulates this lagless gameplay by taking you and your opponent's inputs and aligning them appropriately as if they were executed in a 0 delay environment and will do "rollbacks" or corrections for any inaccuracies that happen.
Input delay may also be used along side rollbacks to reduce the amount of corrections needed in high ping scenarios. This prevents jerkiness and overall unplayability caused by the repeated reversions and corrections.

Many people prefer it to the common method of just delaying input by x amount of frames.

>>10773085

I'll be happy to get things started then.

142.197.239.026:46318
Hosting from EC

I can host through caster too, if that's preferred.

>>10775677
Whoever's trying to connect -- getting an error for different game version.
Running v. 1.07 Rev 1.4.0.

>>10775677
GGs. I think that was the first time I've played against an F-W.len, and those quick projectiles caught me more than I thought it would.

Shame about the lag eating a lot of our inputs though.

Anyone still hosting?

>>10776365
GGs. Was the lag really that bad? It might just be that my connection is always awful, but it seemed pretty good as far as stock netplay goes.

I have caster but I can't host.

75.177.129.197:7500
EC, hosting with caster

>>10776603
It says you have an incompatible version.
The latest CCCaster is 1.1 by the way.

>>10775677
Alright. Rehosting for a bit.

>>10776603
Was working fine, but now says you have an incompatible version. Did you change something? (Red Arcueid)

>>10776659
Someone else connected the instant I started rehosting. Apparently it gives incompatible version errors when someone's already connected.

>>10776671
I see. GGs then, I'm lurking around so just bump the thread if you're still playing when finished.

>>10776643
So if I'm getting this right

C-Aoko: Set up mines everywhere
H-Aoko: Frame traps everywhere
F-Aoko: Shoto

Right?

>>10776643
I give up 25 losses is good enough
I had fun.
fucking grab button is in the wrong place

>>10776603
Rehosting

>>10775677
Rehosting as well.
142.197.239.026:46318

Was there ever a way to stop your screensaver from popping up when playing this game with a controller?

Its a change from mbac and other pc games that greatly annoys me

Do any east coasters want to play?

Just want to get a response before I waste my time hosting for 30 minutes and no one joining

>>10776995
i'll play a little. i'd like to go to bed soon, though, so not too many matches
will you be using the caster?

>>10776995
I'm not East Coast but I can play for quite a while, need to adjust my sleep schedule to a nightly version. I guess in that case Caster is preferred.

>>10776997
>>10777005
I haven't tried the caster yet (hosting), but I'll give it a shot now

First come first serve I guess
172.220.228.4:46318

>>10776995
If you're >>10776603, then you're using an outdated caster or something. I can't connect to you.

>>10777015
I wasn't that person, but I was unable to connect to whoever just joined.

I'll try downloading a new one if there is one, i downloaded this the first day it was uploaded and havent checked for updates

>>10777017
okay rehosting with 1.1

>>10777010
I'll let the other anon play for a while I guess, if you're still up when he is done since he just wanted to play for a while then sure.

>>10777017
Latest is 1.1. Here is the download if you don't want to check the thread. http://www.mediafire.com/?8f0kc7dtr0c4qdj

I recommend you keep the thread though. The maker updates it quite often. http://www.meltybread.com/forums/melty-blood-auditorium/cccaster-v1-0a-netplay-client-for-mbaacc-1-4-0/msg106419/

Desync i think

>>10777025
do you want to try without the caster?

>>10776839

Still hosting.
Going to try using caster this time.

>>10777030
Uhh sure

Are you the Aoko I was just fighting?

Was that desync or what

>>10777010

Still hosting.
Going to try using caster this time.

142.197.239.26:46318

>>10777033
okay hosting without caster now

>>10777025
>>10777030
?? You desynced with the caster? The fuck are you doing?

Yeah I'm done, the connection kinda went horrible at one point there and I was getting random lag

>>10777064
yeah, ggs. i think it's about bedtime, anyway
i feel i should tell you to be careful about teching. other than that your arcueid is looking pretty good. shame i couldn't see more of your hisui

>>10776811
GGs WLen dude. First time using the caster and the results are surprising. If only we had a cleaner connection.

>>10777082
GGs. I'm so used to netplay that I honestly feel no difference in latency between the caster and stock netplay (if there is one), but it does seem to desync a lot less. Hopefully it gets rollbacks eventually.

>>10776603
Rehosting

Was there a newer trainer other than 1.3?

>>10779117
No, I don't think there was. 1.3 still works anyway.

142.197.239.026:46318
East Coast
Hosting via Caster 1.1, want to test it out.

>>10779156
142.197.239.26:46318 **
I keep forgetting about that.

>>10779165
Did someone already connect to you? The caster doesn't give a message for that at the moment.

>>10779165
Not sure what happened there

I used it fine with someone yesterday

Testing some caster hosting:
75.152.188.190:7500
West

>>10779214
>>10779211

Looks like the game crashes on my end right after hitting the character select screen. Not sure what's causing it.

>>10779215
Do you just want to try without the caster?

>>10779224

Might as well. Might have to hold off on caster until
I figure the shit out.

Hosting
142.197.239.026:46318

>>10779215
You need to turn off the auto-saving of replays in the options of melty.

Where's the pic with the good configuration for the keyboard?

desync?

>>10779224
Looks like a desync. Figures.

Well GGs, I'm done for now anyway.
Pretty solid Arc, great pressure. Not really getting why you sometimes heat soley to stop pressure though, there's better ways.

>>10779318
GGs

>>10779034
Don't know what happened there but I'm out. You're really good and I'd like to play you more later.

>>10779513
GGs.

>>10776603
Rehosting

>>10780068
>Unknown error
That's a first.. Are you using CCC1.1?

>>10780139
I am, so I'm not sure why it didn't work. Maybe it was because I didn't have the window in focus? I'm still hosting if you want to try again.

>>10780168
Oh well.. Trying to reboot the computer and trying one last time. Delay is going up, strange.

>>10780168
Nah, forget it, very strange. Maybe you're not using the 1.4 version?

>>10780258
I'm only getting a "Disconnected!" error, so it seems that whatever the problem is, it's resulting in an error on your end. Have you connected to anyone else successfully?

>>10780277
Yup, even played here with >>10776603 yesterday.

But if it's just a disconnected error on your side maybe CCC could just not relay that info on my end, thus the unknown error.

>>10780068
GGs. The first few games drained my energy, typical of a succubus like Len. No idea how to block that EX ice oki, seemed like it would usually hit no matter what I did.

>>10780684
GGs. EX ice can be blocked high or low, so I'm not sure what you were doing that was stopping you from blocking it. It shouldn't be anything to worry about as long as you're blocking in some direction on wakeup.

>>10780734
Yeah, I thought it was weird. I was usually holding 7 and sometimes it would hit me, sometimes I would block it in the air. I doubt it's the caster's fault, but it was weird. Well, without the caster I wouldn't be able to play so smoothly with someone on the east coast, so it's pretty great. Maybe I can really get back into Melty now that I can play with all the EC people.

>>10780751
If you're holding 7 then you'll jump on wakeup, so I was probably catching you during jump startup when you were getting hit. You have to use 4 or 1 if you want to block and not jump.

Does this mean oceania to US is playable now?

>>10781020
It doesn't magically solve high pings, it just makes the netcode better. Just ping an US ip.

1 delay is 0-16ms
2 delay is 16-48ms
3 delay is 48-80ms
4 delay is 80-112ms
5 delay is 112-144ms
6 delay is 144-176ms
7 delay is 176-208ms

People usually never play anything more than 5 delay and even then that's pretty bad.

>>10780808
Oh, I never really thought about jumps having a startup.

>>10776603
Rehosting

>>10781289
ggs. You improved a lot since I last played you. Try not teching so much. Ground techs especially are usually punishable.

>>10781690
GGs.

>>10775677

Rehosting!

Do any east coasters want to play?

What does Riesbyfe mean?

>>10785339
it's engrish for roast beef

>>10785339

>>10785339
Roast beef steer burger.

>>10785367
lol sup

EC hosting

without caster currently

172.220.228.004:46318

>>10786083
I'm sorry

The ping was just too high and delay 7...

>>10786110
Figured so.

dc

>>10786083
Desync, huh?
I have to go in a bit so I guess that's fine though.
GGs, that was some pretty sick H-Ryougi pressure.

I have to figure out how to mix up my own blockstrings.

>>10786228
This is actually the arc who played you yesterday

h-ryougi is just kind of a side project ive had for a while but never used, and definitely have not practiced against aoko so I was dropping some of the more important combos

GGs though, as frustrating as ever.

142.197.239.026:46318
Hosting, East Coast
Client not Caster

Also, anyone happen to play Blazblue as well?

>>10788896
Sorry, GGs.
That monstrous lag came out of nowhere.

172.220.228.004:46318

EC hosting, no caster

>>10789591
Well no one joining so I'm going to be in training mode.

If anyone wants to play just post and I'll start hosting again.

>>10789696
I'm gonna be honest and say I won't join until you're using the caster.

>>10789696
Why don't you want to use the caster? Just curious.

>>10790571
Doesn't seem to change anything at all in my experience, and the last time I hosted with it someone left after 2 matches and requested that I switch to normal client.

Too lazy to deal with people like this
>>10789886
So I didn't bother

76.1.242.159:7500 US East
cccaster v1.1
Day four player with pretty bad execution.

Apologies in advanced if it gets laggy. Roommate might start torrenting whenever.

>>10791511
Thanks for the games. You've got better execution than me though. I can't play Roa like that.

>>10791626
Good Games, thanks for the matches.

I have no idea how to space or how my normals work, but yeah. My execution is probably okay, but I think it's pretty sub par due to all the combos/IADs I was dropping. Surprised I was able to block all of those overheads that I did.

>>10791638
dude i never even bother trying to iad after playing on and off since before current code even

how do people input all this shit so well

stick or keyboard, trying stuff like iads just ends up with me hurting my hand usually

142.197.239.26:46318
Hosting via Caster, EC

>>10792494
I think people use macros. I can't figure them out myself so I end up playing without much, so I can't do certain combos.

Hosting for a bit with caster.
99.236.147.5:23450

I think I'll try delay 5

>>10793111
GGs, pretty laggy, but such is the fate of someone WC looking for netplay I guess. I gotta go.

GGs

172.220.228.4:46318

EC hosting

No caster

>>10793346
Oh wait I meant to say with caster

>>10792533
Rehosting for a bit.

GGs

Fighting a grappler in 4 delay is about as much fun as I expected

99.189.236.99:7000

WC granola-level

>>10793346
Got laggy all of a sudden, but GGs.

>>10793509
You should say whether you're using the caster...

>>10793771
He should also tell his location.

>>10793828
He said WC.

Whoa what the fuck? When did Warachia have a command dash?

Kinda a shame that F-Wara doesn't have it

EC Hosting

No caster currently

172.220.228.004:46318

GGs, gonna get off for now.

>>10797741
Thanks for the games.

>>10797544
Hosting

>>10798874
Why no caster? :(

>>10798874
Whoever joined it was a bit too laggy

Rehosting
>>10798891
I guess Ill switch to that

>>10798921
Should add that my IP will need to be put in differently with caster

172.220.228.4:46318

>>10798925
delay 24.... I didn't know that was possible

>>10797500
He can do some crazy mixups with it apparently. It's like the main reason to pick a Wara other than F.

GGs

That overhead orb tricked me a few times

Sadly my room gets hot really fast this time of the year so I don't like to play for long periods

>>10799035

Yeah, GGs. I had no idea how to get out of that corner pressure. I only figured I could DP between the gap where you're picking up your knife, but reacting that fast is almost impossible for me.

By the way, it's common courtesy to let the loser of the match choose the menu option in case they want to switch characters. Unlike in client, through caster both players control the same menu.

>>10799039
Oh, I wasn't aware thats how the caster menu worked

Basically the blockstring has 2 or 3 gaps where you can try to use some kind of defensive action out, but I try to switch it up as much as I can (not very much because I haven't put a ton of time into it, just got that string down), but it does frame trap at 2/3 of the gaps and the other one I can't get to connect consistently

but if the blockstring does go correctly it is 100% guardbar so you need to just learn the points where you can do something

>>10799039
>>10799049
I haven't played this in a while, but if I remember the guard crush set-up you're talking about correctly, there are a few ways to more or less negate it.

C- and F- moon characters need to instant block to make sure their guard bar doesn't get depleted, while H- moon characters need to save some meter and alpha counter. There is also the obvious DP/EX during gaps in the blockstring. Probably a bit harder online though.

Ha ha,
time for some drinking + MB

142.197.239.26:46318
EC, caster

>>10803238
It says you have incompatible version, are you using 1.1? is there a 1.2 now?

>>10803238
I am using 1.1
I was afk. Sorry.

>>10803685
Did someone already join?

I'm getting a socket error thing.

>>10803701
hosting again as of now

>>10803238
Oh man.
GGs. Thanks for humoring me.
I think I need some sleep.

>>10803901
GGs

Sorry for mashing rematch the first matches, I forgot again and I just want to keep going at it once I start

Satsuki dunk move is so satisfying I cant help but mash it at every opportunity

If anyone else wants to play (EC), just let me know and I can host or you can if you want

>>10803906
If you're somehow still awake I wanna play some.

>>10806131
Give me 30 or 60 minutes, I need to do something and then eat breakfast

>>10797544
Rehosting.

Using caster now so: 172.220.228.4:46318

>>10806669
Is whoever just tried to join on rev 1.4?

>>10806708
yes
the caster has been hit-or-miss for me since v1.1, though

>>10806708
Couldn't move my stick for whatever reason on character select

>>10806708
say, are you noticing dropped inputs at all? i keep getting hit with 2a's on wakeup despite holding 1, which is a problem i've had with the caster before

>>10806859
Nope I', not noticing anything like that

>>10806875
ggs

>>10806939
GGs, my Len is not yet ready for the battlefield...

>>10806950
you might want to be a little less aggressive with her and a little more ambiguous. i would say the same about your ryougi, but you can guard crush more easily with her at least
be careful about abusing your j2C, especially if you play people offline. for that matter, be careful about spending so much time in the air if you play people offline, especially if you're playing against a character like ryougi who hits half the screen with each ground attack. there's actually this c-len player i see sometimes whose strategy is repeated j2C crossups, so i dash in 5A or air throw him before he can get the move out

>>10807002
I never really practiced anything with Len so I was just mashing out what I saw in videos and such

And with Ryougi I don't really bother to switch strategies until they stop working, and it didn't stop working today

how do i get good

>>10807335
Throw more keys

>>10807335
play more

I hate this thread it reminds me of the old shit days.

So, I was thinking about trying this game but the size of the cast is kind of intimidating. Anyone have some character recommendations for someone who mostly plays SSF4:AE as Gouken?

>>10808656
Ryougi

>>10808656
I'd say Miyako ONLY because of the wall toss/fly away followup combos, but Gouken is too weird to compare to any archetypes in Melty. Just tool around, you're the only one who will know in the end which one suits you best.

>>10808656
Really there is no good comparison for Gouken in this game

When I think gouken I think:

Zoning
Hits like a truck
Normals that don't cover a large distance but have decent hitboxes

Maybe Aoko? only barely though and she doesn't hit nearly as hard
>>10808718
>Just tool around, you're the only one who will know in the end which one suits you best.
Basically this, regardless of how similar a character could be, its a different game and you will inevitably prefer slightly different things.

>>10808884
Now that you mention it like that that kind of sort of sounds like Roa but yeah.

>>10808921
Roa actually makes a lot of sense because I consider a lot of goukens normals to feel 'awkward' in that they aren't what is traditionally expected, and Roa is the same way.

Also any east coasters want to play?

>>10776603
Rehosting

>>10809067
Sorry for leaving so soon but I have to do something and then go to bed

GGs

>>10809233
GGs, I should be going to sleep anyway.

So how much has this caster imporved the netplay? Is intercontinental netplay still terrible? I love this game so much but I can never find anyone here in the middle of nowhere to play with.

Where do i get the latest trainer (i think it was 1.3)
all archived mediafire links to it are deleted

>>10809483
Its pretty good for me.
I'm playing friends from america and I'm from europe. hardly any lag, the only remaining problem are the occasional Desynchs

>>10776603
Rehosting

>>10809483
see >>10781040

It won't actually LAG, but you'll get massive input delay.

This is probably a stupid question, but are there any characters that don't jump into the air for all of their BnBs? I've never been able to get the hang of jumping in the middle of a combo in a fast game like this, it's one of (many) reasons I don't like to play Marvel.

>>10812503
Kohaku+Hisui, but you'll need to utilize switching between them, which I imagine is harder than jumping.

>>10812516
Well it's not the jumping as much as landing things after jumping, but yeah.
Was trying to land 5B 6B 5C j.BC j.BC Air throw with Full Moon Shiki Tohno and it's just not happening.

>>10812503
Command grab-heavy characters like C-Satsuki and F-Kouma, maybe.

>>10812503
F-Riesbyfe. Thank me later.

>>10812503
The ones that let you stay on the ground are generally much harder

C-Kohaku/H-Kohaku both have grounded BnBs but just very strict timing with links and such.

Same with C/F-Arcuied