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Tea is for old people and gays.

tea > coffee

what a fine beverage. so very british

>>10568088
/jp/ is gay as HELL so it works out.

>>10568088
全然違う

>>10568088
get out

>>10568088
Indeed, coffee is the way to go.

>>10568115
>>10568106
why?

Chai, plox

LOL

I PEED IN THE POT !

>>10568119
coffee is bad for my digestive health

>>10568115
Did he insult your strong Japanese spirit, faggot?

All the tea I've tried to make so far has tasted flavorless and watered down, despite following the instructions on the package. I think I'm cursed

>>10568171
yes, fuck you too.

Yeah, concentrated fire sisters is my favourite.

>>10568182
tea is easy
you.. you just gotta start with lighter teas like green, chai or jasmine
then try heavier darker teas

remember to use boiling water and pour it OVER the leaves
dont forget to let it steep for a bit.
dont be afraid to use milk

>>10568069

what are you guys drinkining today?!!? Im drinking sencha again, cant wait for spring and all sorts of fresh teas to try and taste!!!

does anyone know a good seller that has milky oolong?? or have any suggestions for something to try and get a fresh batch of??? I was thinking of trying some iron goddess next, i've heard its super tasty!

Spring is starting to come around, teatime is gonna be at its finest!!!

>>10568224
finally a real drinker around here
got my herbs on deck for this season, gonna bake snaxx too!

>>10568215
I heard letting the water get to a boil is what one is not to do.

>>10568237
oh boy! What kinda snacks? tasty ones? Crunchy ones? Soft ones?

>>10568244
True unless you drink black or oolong. With green you need less heat and with white even less.

I just drink black so it's easy to prepare right with boiling water every time.

>>10568224
Today I'm trying some Maojian tea. I was drinking some white tea the past couple of days but I'm not sure if I used enough leaves.

I'm drinking piss tea

>>10568250
crunchy pastries!
take a bite then sip tea over the surface
tea+snaxx is great

>>10568254
I have both green and white, tell me how to properly prepare, please.

>>10568274
Definitely definitely! tea and crunchies is one of the best combinations!

I was thinking about making biscotitititi, but i think i'd need a red or black tea witht hat! might be weird with green, hehe. i have some spice tea with apples and stuff that might go good with it tho, but its kinda cheap stuff.

>>10568279
You can google up the right temperatures, then have some makeshift way of dropping the boiling water to the right temperature. I checked with a termometer that if I pour 6dl of boiling water to my room-temp cast iron tea pot, the temperature drops to around 82C which is pretty good for green tea.

Then steep the correct amount, depending on tea instructions. Too long will make it bitter, too short will not have bland taste.

Just gotta try a few times I guess.

>>10568339
i'll try my way forward, i'm still not sure about the whole temperature thing, i can wait for it to boil and the second i take the pot off the stove it stops boiling completely

>>10568339
Will not have right taste (bland taste), I should correct.

>>10568279
for green, above 140f but below 170f is the sweetspot for getting all that flavor without any bitterness! once you start getting near 170-180, the tea gets more and more bitter!

i used a thermometer to get used to what temperature my water heater thingy defaults to, so I adjust that, in my case, by plopping a single ice cube in the water before i pour it over the green tea, gets it right to the perfect temp. by default it ends up around the perfect temperature for black teas, but i dont drink many of those!!!!

but different heaters and methods will get your water to different temperatures, so find something reliable and learn your way about it! learning what different temps of water feel like to your fingertip (through the container or not) is a good way to learn without having to break out the thermometer every time and waiting around for it!

some people like really mild flavors, but some people like a slight bitterness to their tea so they might adjust the heat to taste.

>>10568345
if you're not sure, get a thermometer!!! a bimetallic one is super cheap and you can find them just about everywhere, you just gotta keep them calibrated. or for a little bit more money you can get an electric one and those normally dont need calibrating frrom what i kno

>>10568345
Just get an electronic cooking thermometer if you're really worried about the temp and see how it works. I really don't bother myself and just most of the time make black tea, which has more caffeine anyways.

Boiling happens at a very specific temperature and that's just how it works, half a degree is enough for the process to end.


I've been using this set for a while now but the smell of rust has slowly intensified, haven't been drying them properly it seems. Anyone had experience with cleaning rust from cast iron tea sets?

>>10568345
Just piss in your hands, the temperature of your piss should be about the temperature of green tea

>>10568386
Huh, I seem to be terrible at posting today.

I honestly don't know what I'm doing wrong here.
>Put black tea packet in a small mug
>Boil water in a kettle
>Pour boiling water on packet
>Wait 5 minutes
>Take tea packet out, stir everything around
Tastes like hot water. Help me /jp/, I don't understand

>>10568396
Move it a little

>>10568396
Bob the teabag up and down if you want a more intense taste. Or get flavoured tea. Just plain black does taste somewhat bland to me.

For a powerful smoky taste, for example, lapsang is nice.

>>10568386
you can boil some cheap black tea at a high temperature after using a brush or something to get any rust off, and the tea should seal it after you let it sit for a while!

unlike a cast iron skillet you dont wanna use oils or salts cuz then it'd season the pot and mess up your flavors, but make sure you wipe out and air dry them every time you use them so they dont rust again!!

>>10568398
>>10568403
Alright, thanks for the help. I'll try making another and shaking the hell out of the tea bag

>>10568396
oh oh, another thing is, make sure you're breathing in when you take a sip! smell is really tied in with taste, and with something as delicate as tea, some people completely miss the flavor unless its super strong in the first place!

but if you want a really lingering mouthfeel and taste, try something flavored or scented !! I like jasmine pearl, it has a super good aroma and super tasty!

>>10568396
Open the packet first.

>>10568403
Apparently it doesn't actually do anything

http://www.quora.com/Tea/Does-bouncing-your-tea-bag-actually-do-anything-substantial/answer/Matt-Harbowy?srid=CfG&st=ns

Earl Grey. Plain. Served with little cakes or other pastries. See example.

Is this an expensive hobby? Trying out and collecting different teas and whatnot? Do you have to have different types of cups? Is it best to prepare the proper snacks?

Please respond

>>10568615
Not terribly expensive.
You don't need different cups.
It is definitely best to prepare suitable snacks.

>>10568615
The price for decent tea isn't too bad. Go for ceramic cups as they retain cup better. As for snacks, go for sweet things. These include biscotti, cookies, small cakes, chocolates, etc. Serve in the morning, after meals, and in the afternoon.

>>10568636
>as they retain heat better.

I like my relaxation tea I drink at night sometimes and green tea. I don't drink out of tea cups though. I just have a single plain large mug I use. I've made such a habit out of using the same mug for all my coffee and tea that I should give it a name. Does anyone have a personal favorite cup or mug that they use?

I'm drinking houji-kukicha. It's different from other teas. A long time ago I noticed after drinking it I noticed I'd feel very drowsy and my veins would become more varicose and I'd feel my pulse very strongly in my head and extremeties. It often makes me fall asleep outright after the third mug.

One day I was looking through the FAQ of the vendor I buy from and while I don't really usually take their marketing fluff very seriously I saw them mention that it contains a chemical called pyrazine due to the roasting of kukicha and they state very plainly that it dilates your blood vessels. Apprarently it's also present in some amount in cigarettes and as a food additive.

I'm not sure if that's something I should be concerned about. It's very relaxing, though.

>>10568512

I'm pretty skeptical of that. I don't use teabags or drink black tea, but when I'm steeping with an infuser and I lift out it and drop it back in I can see a plainly visible cloud of material filling the mug, at least on the first steeping.

I got like 20 bucks at Teavana what the fuck should I do?

I really like Green Tea and Chai but thats all I have really tried.

>>10568390
on second thought just piss in your mouth, its more accurate

>>10568658

Personally I invested in an under-sink water filter and an electric kettle which I keep with me near my computer. This was I don't have to panic and run out to the kitchen for every cup when the kettle whistles, and I can keep the water at the right temperature.

I usually spend about $40 to $80 dollars per pound of tea but it lasts for months.

>>10568615

Green tea and black tea and such are pretty diverse within themselves; you can look at different kinds of green tea. My personal favorite apart from plain sencha green tea is mecha, which is very much an acquired taste and pretty much looks like bog water and also tastes like it on the first try. Very deep and peculiar flavor.

>>10568424 here.
I have failed cups 2 and 3 and I am even more confused. I am starting to wonder if tea just has no flavor and everyone is lying to me.
For cup two, I bobbed the packet constantly for 3 minutes straight. Flavorless.
For cup three, I got annoyed and just let the packet sit in the water for around 10 minutes. Still flavorless.
Also to note, the water itself was darkly colored, so something came out I guess. I used Lipton Black Peal black tea packets. Maybe I should go buy some different ones

>>10568658
strawberry misaki is good.

>>10568652
You have to lift the teabag/ball/whatever right out of the container. The idea is to force hot water across the leaves.

Alternatively, tea brews just fine in a "tea tumbler," and you can use a french press as a "tea tumbler" if you happen to have one.

Don't buy anything from twinnings etc., only get fair trade certified leaves.

I drank some fantastic rooibos today with a touch of honey. I really wish this place would start selling their stuff in bulk because everything I have tried from this is superb.

>>10568688
Lipton is kinda a strange product, actually. I think they pretty much cater to people who are used to their brand because they grew up with it in the south.

If you couldn't taste it, that's fine, basically, it tastes like ass to me.

What vendors do you folks use?

I was using o-cha for a while but their quality seems to have declined, switched to yuuki-cha and haven't had a bad tea from them yet - the aromas are off the charts, you can really tell the quality difference, but they're quite expensive.

>>10568598
You. I like you.

>>10568658
Make some Chai, get some cookies. Do you smoke? I've found Chai to be an excellent companion to tobacco. If not, then more cookies.

I'm a big fan of Milk Tea lightly sweetened with honey. With lighter tea, about 1/10 of the mix being milk. With Darker tea, 2/5 or even 1/2 milk.

I'd like buy a good teapot and stop using my french press for tea purposes. I want it to be able to use it with different kinds of tea without having a significant impact on the flavor...
http://www.yuuki-cha.com/japanese-teapots/kuro-fukamushi-tokoname-teapot
http://www.yuuki-cha.com/kinu-shudei-japanese-teapot
How do those look? Have any suggestions from any other stores?

>>10568897
I gave up on clay pots. They're such a pain in the ass to clean compared to modern over-the-mug brewers.

In any case, don't buy from that website. Those are tremendously overpriced. Just google up tononame kyusu if you want one of the simple red ones, can get them for around $30.

I am waiting for these to come in the mail.

http://www.yuuki-cha.com/organic-uji-sencha-green-tea
http://www.yuuki-cha.com/organic-japanese-oolong-tea-kuchinashi

I haven't had any tea for a couple months now, was gonna try to wait for spring but I decided not too. Once spring/summer kicks in though I'm gonna buy some more for the year.

>>10568615

Weeaboo tea time is an expensive hobby, at least depending on what you consider expensive. If I bought as much tea as I wanted I could easily spend like 400 bucks a year on this shit. I don't see myself ever spending over 100-150 a year on tea though.

Might also ruin tea for you for life, because if you've started drinking good tea, it's hard to go back to drinking garbage.

>>10568906
Yeah, looks like it.
But they have a nice description, anyways the teapots I'm seeing seam very multipurpose.
Thanks.

>>10568688
lipton doesnt have much of a flavor in the first place. probably your problem!

>>10568897
>>10568906
I just use a regular clear glass teapot, easy to clean, and easy to see when your tea is ready!!

>>10568615
its not too expensive at all! unless you go for super fancy fancy first harvest stuff! or obscure teacup or teapot collecting~!

baking your own snacks and deserts will help you cut down on those costs too, and you can make things fresh and they wont have that artificial taste! since if you're drinking something fresh (for most teas), having something artificial and not good kinda ruins that!! but your local bakery might have good things too~

not to mention cooking is super relaxing!

What are some good places to order tea leaves online?

What are some good sites to order tea leaves online?

What are some good sites to order tea leaves online?

>>10569124
i've seen yuki-cha reccomended a lot, Maeda-En too!!! I havent used either (I get my tea locally!!) , but I do see them namedropped a lot! dunno for non-green tea tho

>>10569195
What's with the exclamation points!!!!!!
It's really annoying!!!!
Use capital letters more often!!!!

>>10569124
Den's is located in the US and has a one time $3 sampler with five or so different green teas.

Anybody here ever have bancha?

>>10568897
>teapot
I like the "tumbler" thing better, since you can shake the leaves around in it and shit

>>10569227
I'm very excited!

>>10569195
>>10569245

Thanks. I guess I'm also interested in non-green tea, so is there also stuff for that?

I usually drink black or green tea, nothing fancy as I'm a total plebe, but I can't drink anything much warmer than room temperature.
How big of a faux pas is this with people who actually enjoy tea? I suspect waiting for the tea to cool would be preferable to, say, suggesting I'd add a bit of milk or cool water to my green tea to make it drinkable, but I'm wondering if it'd be better to outright decline an offer to have tea if in the presence of a connoisseur.

Or is there a tea you're supposed to drink cool that I could have?

I like mint tea.

Is this what they call tea otaku?

>>10571833
There's no wrong way to drink tea. Wabi-sabi.

You can only get hard water where I live, so the tea doesn't infuse properly. It's rubbish. This is the only tea that doesn't end up just tasting like lightly-flavoured rock water.

>>10571842
more like queer otaku

nothing wrong with being a queer, but youre all faggots

>>10573142
In American cities the tap water tastes like chlorine.

This is really shitty for drinking tea.

Can't you get bottled water?

Can

>>10573208
Tea is manly as fuck. We raped half the world to control it.

>>10573212
>Can't you get bottled water?
Because everyone is rich

>>10573221
I laughed.

>>10573212
>the tap water tastes like chlorine

Uh...you might want to speak with your landlord.

>>10573212
>In the United States, bottled water often costs up to $3 per bottle, while a similar volume of tap water costs less than one cent.

>>10573257
City water. They're scared as shit of bacteria so they fill it with chemicals.

>>10573228
Bottled water is cheap.

>>10573232
You laugh because it's not far from the truth.

India: Raped
China: Raped really fucking hard. Empire toppled, populace addicted to opium, the works
Japan: Pressured into sex despite not really wanting to on account of a headache
All those other Asian countries no-one gives a shit about: Raped

>>10573265
It costs about $1 / 5 gallon for store brand bottled water.

Rather that then put whatever is in the sink inside me. It smells like a swimming pool.

>>10573266
>Bottled water is cheap.
see

>>10573265
>>In the United States, bottled water often costs up to $3 per bottle, while a similar volume of tap water costs less than one cent.

>>10573283
This is a very good example of wikipedia being wrong.

Unless you're drinking some fancy mineral water it doesn't approach $3.

>>10573291
Source is apparently
http://www.a2gov.org/SiteCollectionDocuments/public_services_water_a2h2o_FAQs_2007_12_12.pdf
But it's a 404.

>>10573291
It's $1.75 from machines $2.25 on the most inconvenient places

But its not that far

>>10573300
Okay, dug through archive.org, exact quote:
>Commercially-bottled water costs $.25 to $2/bottle. A typical “grab and go” bottled water from a convenience
>store is at least $1. At this rate, bottled water is more expensive than gasoline. Municipal tap water costs less
>than a penny to fill a gallon jug!

>>10573291

Wikipedia wasn't wrong, they said "often costs up to".

Most packs of bottled water are only like 10-15 cents a bottle.

I can't wait for the iced tea and hot summer days to come.. I discovered that sitting on the porch at night was a great way to escape the heat that's trapped inside the house.

>>10573652
how black are you?

>>10573659
I'm a little bit lighter than Will Smith.

March days spent drinking Tetley from ceramic mugs while the snow melt floods the rivers and streams

Enjoyable to watch the cycle of time come full circle

I got some nice tea last week. Cream of Earl Grey. It's got vanilla, cornflowers and bergamut oil. Goes down real smooth and its a tiny bit sweet. Smells fantastic. I'd recommend it to anyone who's looking for something a tiny bit different.

>>10573805
>Cream of Earl Grey
>Goes down real smooth
>Smells fantastic
>recommend it to anyone who's looking for something a tiny bit different

Is this a joke about jizz?

>>10573812
I can assure you it's not.
http://steepster.com/teas/davidstea/16479-cream-of-earl-grey-organic

I can't drink non-herbal tea anymore, I've suddenly become hypersensitive to caffeine.

>>10573816
Try coffee.
I like the occasional cup of earl grey, but if I have more than two within a few hours, something in it (theanine?) makes me extremely anxious and I flip the fuck out.
Meanwhile, I can guzzle coffee almost nonstop for hours.

>>10573822
Obviously coffee has a much worse effect. In fact, immediately following cutting out Dexedrine, I decided to cut out coffee. When that wasn't enough I decided to cut out tea as well, quite a terrible day that was.

How to get a perfect temperature for green tea, mine is always too bitter

>>10574245
I'd help if you didn't post some unrelated image.

>>10574250
you monster ;_;

>>10574245
use a thermometer; 70 Celsius for most green tea, 65 for genmaicha.

>>10574257
okay
i'll try

>>10574250
It's not unrelated. The image represents how he feels about his green tea never being the correct temperature.

Stop being autistic.

>>10573266
Municipal water is done with ozone now. At least where I live, here in Boston.

Ozone doesn't taste like chlorine, because it isn't chlorine.

>>10574309
Reaction images have no place in /jp/.

>>10574438
reaction faces of existed on /jp/ since day 1

you dont belong on /jp/

>>10574440
I'm sorry you believe that.

>>10574446
Thats actually the case though /q/ueer, remember we're all from /a/ originally.

>>10574467
Why do you crossposters always feel the need to call people names? I bet you like to greentext and misuse spoilers as well.

>>10568069
Mr Teatime, is that you?

>>10568688
I don't find any taste in Lipton, any of their products seem old and stale.

I for one, use only TWG teas, even though it is pretty expensive where I live (Philippines).

I also sometimes do cold brewing with TWG morning black teas. I place a tea bag on a 16 oz container and fill it with approximately 14 ounces of water. I store it in a cool dark place (either the refridgerator or the side of my bed) for around 12 to 18 hours before I drink it plain or with milk.

I really like this method since it does not bring out the bitterness of black tea, but it still has the full flavor. It goes well with me because I have a cat's tongue.

>>10571833
Oh, I did not see your post. Please do try my method of cold brewing in this post >>10574577 since we both seem to have cat's tongue.

I hope you like the experience the same as I do.

Am I ruining the point of tea by putting sugar in it?

>>10575962
for some people they like the cute and fresh and clean taste of tea, and sugar is super heavy so they may not like it! but as long as sugar isnt the primary flavor you're tasting, i think you should be good! nothing wrong with a little bit to round out some teas, but green teas and lighter teas get too easily overpowered by it, but thats just my opinion!

as long as you're happy and not drinking sugarwater instead of tea!!!

personally i dont like it tho...unless its chai, with heavy cream. or bubble or thai teas, but those are more like deserts than an actual drink!!

>went to drink tea at a brothers
>he drank mine and went outside
>took one of his teabags and made 3 teas
>finished eating after he got down
>what?

>>10574428
I'm in Boston too. Tap water here tastes fine.

>>10576185

Another tripcode to filter?

Where are these coming from?

>>10568207

It is more appropriate to call them "the bird and the bee"

>>10576185
I love chai with cream too as long as it's the tea itself is very strong so I can actually taste it and the sweetness blends with it instead of overpowering it. Besides that I'll drink my other teas with nothing besides green tea which I like to put a little honey in.

Lately I've been enjoying Hojicha with honey. Really pretty much any tea with a little bit of honey is delicious.

>>10577421
I've been here for a long time! but only started posting in food/tea threads recently!

>>10577459
Well, stop it. You're very annoying.

>>10577506

I agree with this guy, if no one remembers you, why bother using it?

>>10577550
>>10577506
because its fun!
and i meant that i didn't post till these threads...

>>10577657
Don't worry. I don't hate you.

>>10577657
Well, you're obnoxious.

Can we post about hot chocolate here or should I make a separate general thread?

>>10586271
Only if its extremely expensive for no reason, and from Japan. And you better prepare it with ridiculous attention to detail.