/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>10367942
What was it... The thing about shiny pidgey?

coolio

beware of dog

could be worse

i hate you

>>10368002

I got a shiny cKomachi on an early Touhoumon, her palette was kinda glitched.
And I got a shiny Tori on Touhoumon Emerald.
I fucking hate my luck

My revenge shall be legendary, Shiny-Yuugi-kun

What's the difference between that and a regular one?

>>10368021
It would be better if the Touhous stayed the same, except their breasts got larger with each evolution.

>>10368021

>>10368073
regular one has a blue cloak

>>10368089
Welp. The back sprite looks decent at least.

So which is the best version and where can i find it pre-patched?

>>10368223
no brakes

>>10368271
the best is subjective and depends on what you're looking for. pre-patched roms aren't as common anymore because the average fan's iq has increased a few points and they learned how to use patchers.

>>10368271
if you want a comprehensive overview of the hacks and links to them check this out: http://pastebin.com/iFfKieYi

I'd recommend either Agastya's Emerald hack or Aichiya's Fire Red hack. In my view the former has more interesting gameplay (good difficulty and allowing all forms pre-E4 mixes things up) while the latter has stuff like a custom soundtrack and a completely edited script. Also Hoenn vs. Kanto. Give them a run and see which you prefer, they're both very solid.

>>10368418
do they both have tons of 2hu sprites with evolutions? which one is >>10367942 is?
does that have the most 2hu and best sprites?

>>10368422
1.8 hacks have the best spritework and pretty much share the same puppets. See: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhoudex_2.. Pic in the OP is of the Emerald hack.

Touhou Puppet Play 1.812 Emerald

Which is better Touhou Puppet Play Enhanced or Touhou Puppet Play 1.812 Emerald?

how do you do trade evolutions? why would they add that when its a rom game? Also do the 1.8 games really only have one evolution each? while the others have 3?

>>10368448
With an emulator that supports trading. Alternatively Emerald allows you to do those with a specific stone.

Chyuugi

>>10368439
but from what i read nothing in the gamed is edited but the sprites and moves, so its like playing Emerald all over again? I hated ruby,s,e.... fire red is complete different r form the original game , right?

Shiny Touhoumon thread?

Be prepared for stuff like this when playing the Aichiya Sanae hacks. She tried to add much to the game, but a lot of it looks rather bad...

>>10368648
No.

>>10368648
FR/LG is based on generation III mechanics, has a few additional sidequests and allows you to catch some of the later Pokémons. That's about it.

Honestly though what was worse about R/S/E?

>>10368079
It would be better if they got a penis for their final form.

>>10368661
Beautiful.

>>10368671
R/S/E had the worst Pokemon, they were just boring.
> additional sidequests and allows you to catch some of the later Pokémons.
your talking about the original games or the hacks? which has newer and more 2hus? Emerald or Enhanced? or do they have the same amount?

>>10368688
>R/S/E Pokémon suck
So what? Touhoumon replaces them all with Touhou girls.

>new stuff
I meant FR/LG. They are remakes of R/B/G/Y but they added some new stuff. A few of the Touhoumon hacks also add things on top of that.

>>10368688
The Aichiya hacks are worse when it comes to new characters. The Ten Desires characters are in her hacks, but they appear way too late in the game for no reason. Ex: Tojiko is the second to last Touhou you will encounter in the game after you have completed the whole normal story plus all the extra regions.

>>10368688
>R/S/E had the worst Pokemon, they were just boring.
Whoa nerd, that's not Gen D/P/Pt at all.

Play the Agastya Emerald hack. It may not have new regions, but it has a working Battle Frontier and the balance and difficulty are way better. Another World/World Link just end with you being forced to use only characters that have LW forms since all other characters are useless. Almost every endgame trainer will just throw 900+ base stat Touhous at you or use LW too.

oh what the fuck

>>10368972
She gets way cooler-looking when she's evolved. And shinies are always a keeper.

>>10368661
Relevant: http://lkaexe.supersanctuary.net/nitpickzone/

Do these games have ten desires 2hu's?

>>10368751
Nope, Gen V takes the cake for worst 'mons. Though Gen VI will change that when X and Y come out, I believe.

>>10367942
>>10367993
>>10368021
I hate you so much.

>>10369482
Emerald 1.8 does. Kyouko is a pretty cool early-game puppet and you get a Seiga through an egg in Lavaridge town. Not sure about the others. Puppet Play Enhanced has them as well but you get them ridiculously late (post E4), so they're pretty much irrelevant.

>>10369791
Miko is bought at the Game Corner, I think Yoshika is as well. Futo, you encounter CFuto fairly early into the game so you can just check the dex. Don't know about Tojiko or Mamizou.

>>10369457
Good god I'm in stitches. But also really glad that he's done his own quality hack.

>>10369791
>>10369838

Excellent. Thanks

>>10369715
<3

>>10369838
futo is radical and is semi-common while surfing. tojiko can be found on the outdoor mt pyre floors, and mamizou can be found in one of the safari zone segments.

there's also extra yoshikas/seigas/mikos at mt pyre as well if you can wait and don't feel like grinding out the em game corner, since if you barely spend any money you'll barely be able to afford a yoshika when you first reach it.

Hey Agastya, I know you're here. Make some areas dedicated to EVing prior to beating the Elite 4, please. For me, beating the Elite 4 basically ends the game, and trying to level up puppets correctly before that (you know, autism?) is so annoying.

>>10371052
I'd rather not considering it's already easy enough to snap the main game in half.

>>10371085
Then how come you nurfed the Elite 4?

>>10371089
I got sick of having to spend a bunch of time going from underleveled for VR (59) to underleveled for the E4 (69). If I don't want to deal with the grind then I don't want others to deal with it.

>>10371111
Well, guess that makes. On the other hand, I always had two to three Touhou at 65+ by the end of Victory Road, which made the Elite 4 somewhat doable (with some luck) most of the time.

God damn it, I want a shiny Touhou so much.

So fucking much.

And the only one I ever found was a shiny Chen. You know, CHEN. The evolved form has blue lips, for God's sake!

I didn't ever do that Kasen starter playthrough so I'm doing that now. So far I have her and Kyouko at L15 and just lost to Roxanne. I'll level up a bit more before trying that again. Also like the mental images of Kyouko startling enemies (Fake Out) or Kasen strangling things with bandages (Bind).

Oh and thanks for the 1.8 player sprites, they're much cuter.

>>10374026
I remember you, poor guy. Play more with unlimited framerates.

>>10374026
Oh yeah, I found one of those; someone didn't think that through. Not sure what it is about touhoumon though, I've found 3 so far including these two I found within a 5 hour span.

>>10374038
I remember one guy found a shiny on the way to Viridian. Before he could get pokeballs.

>>10374066
You're so lucky. But just so you know, now you'll never find another one again!

>>10374038
I didn't particularly like the 1.8 player sprites, but after a while I wasn't able to stomach the style clashing the 1.5 ones were causing. I'll probably get used to them.

>>10374026
I just trip over shinies, usually while doing nuzlockes but not always. I once got a shiny Nue just testing the Kecleon events.

>that Double Team and Hypnosis spamming, and accuracy lowering Reisen in one of the battle tents
Holy shit that was annoying.

>>10377058
That is my standard tactic for beating the Elite 4 with Reisen alone (and with Gardevoir in the original Emerald). The AI can't handle it, so it feels a bit like cheating.

>>10377482
That crap actually works? I always figured it would be too luck based.

In other news Yumeko has quickly gone from "who?" to the team favorite.

>>10379807
Well, Hypnosis gives you free turns to set up, and at least in Regular Pokemon, +3 evasion is like a 50% chance to miss, and goes up to 2/3 chance, and then if you factor in accuracy lowering moves, you should more or less be unhittable, so long as you've got enough bulk to take a few errant hits while you set up.

>>10379862
Guess my problem is that I lack the bulk. I can't help but run a full team in Touhoumon plus quite a few "reserves" (so many good choices) so I'm usually pretty underleveled.

damn I should have gotten Reimu's fossil so I'd have a decent puppet to use fly

>>10380990
Just use Aya.

>>10380993
A somewhat generic choice but I might just do that. TAya looks interesting. Hatate looks better but I'd hate to completely waste a moveslot like that. Rika is a surprising option but I already have a steel/dark on my team.

>>10381048
oh, and I have been using mystia but her shitty movepool is finally catching up with her

>>10381048
Then use Genjii.

>>10381055
mystia's movepool is far from bad.

I feel like I need to get new favorite Touhous as they're mostly the same type.

>>10381267
It's more difficult to play your favourites especially if you have to wait for them. But assuming you're playing a balanced hack, if they're managed right you shouldn't have to worry so much about type weaknesses. Who do you have?

>>10379807
What's she offer?

>>10381341
> if they're managed right you shouldn't have to worry so much about type weaknesses
It's not that so much as OCD about limiting STAB options.

>>10381341
Waiting is the hard part, in any Pokemon game. It pisses me off that I always end up with the same team of three or four Touhou I found early on the first four to five routes. When the wait is finally over and I stumble over an awesome Touhou, the rest of my team is already way ahead in terms of levels, so I just ditch the new one in the PC.

>>10381413
Play Blue version if you don't mind 1.5 mechanics. You can go almost anywhere from the start and catch a great majority of the puppets excluding most PC-98s. Alternatively, hack your starter.

>>10381408
True. But you can still do multi-element sweepers if they have good Atk/Satk stats and decent speed.

>>10381508
Nah, I'm done with 1.5. 1.8 is so much better.

I did a randomized ROM one day, but as it happend, the randomizer replaced CNazrin with a CReimu, so there was no way to catch Nazrin anymore. Fucking green UFOs, I tell you.

>>10381250
oh? It looks like she's far more suited to being a special attacker. I'm running straight Mystia.

>>10381341
Great all-around stats (bit slow though) with attack being excellent (120), a pretty good movepool that includes blade flash and swords dance (granted the latter comes late), and has two immunities. On the downside she's ridiculously rare.

>>10381413
Steal a lucky egg from a tewi. Combine that with emulator speed-up and getting puppets up to snuff is pretty trivial. I agree though this is a pretty stupid general oversight of the series.

I am trying win with my favourite touhou and i am wondering which one should be the next addition to my team?
So far my current team is
D.Patchouli, C.Reisen, Koakuma and Ellen. All of them is lvl 39 and i am at lavaridge town.

Was planning to add Murasa, Yuuka, Ran and Youmo. Or is there a better choice..?

>>10381598
blue isn't that bad. i liked it anyway.

>>10381341
>What's she offer?
Regular Mystia has 100 atk and 115 speed with Soar and Brave Bird, and can breed fucking Shadow Force for some reason. If you want to get haxy she can use Sing. It isn't the largest pool, but it works for her.

HMystia is bulkier and can toxic stall with natural recover, or just perish trap.

AMystia is 120 satk/105 speed with silly fun options like STAB Hyper Voice and can fire off all sorts of elemental coverage like Ice Beam, Nature Sound, and Shadow Ball to name a few.

All forms have access to Endeavor if you're into that.

>>10381598
blue isn't that bad.

>>10382600
>It looks like she's far more suited to being a special attacker.

Regular Mystia has 100 atk and 115 speed with Soar and Brave Bird, and can breed fucking Shadow Force for some reason.Gets random coverage in Fury Swipes and Heart Break, too. If you want to get haxy she can use Sing. It isn't the largest pool, but it works for her.

HMystia is bulkier and can toxic stall with natural recover, or just perish trap.

AMystia is 120 satk/105 speed with silly fun options like STAB Hyper Voice and can fire off all sorts of elemental coverage like Ice Beam, Nature Sound, and Shadow Ball to name a few.

All forms have access to Endeavor if you're into that.

maybe i'm just biased because i like her who knows

>>10383254
>>10383230
>and can breed fucking Shadow Force for some reason
That probably has to do with her ability to sing you into night blindness.

>>10382600
Please don't mention Lucky Eggs anymore. Stealing even one from CTewi has become my worst nightmare (seeing how rare CFuckingTewi is in the first place).

By the way, thank you for doing the dex entry translations, Agastya. Must've been a lot of work.

>>10382635
Any of them would probably be pretty good, as you don't have much going for you in the way of physical attackers currently I think.
Murasa has the added bonus of being able to use Surf, so there's that. Yuuka looks like she could add some well rounded bulk to your team.

None of these games are good. Every one I've played has been too easy. How hard is it to make battles challenging?

>>10383354
Nah, buddy, you're just too good. Haha, just kidding. Emerald 1.8 is fine as long as you don't overgrind by ten or twenty levels. Actually, that is the only version I ever played that challenged me in gym battles by not doing the usual what-the-fuck-why-is-this-Touhou-30-levs-and-200-stat-points-above-my-own bullshit, but by clever team and moveset selection.

>>10383383
>Emerald 1.8 is fine as long as you don't overgrind by ten or twenty levels.
Not him, but my only issue with Emerald 1.8 is that I've just been fighting the other trainers and I'm still over leveled by quite a bit. Granted, that could be because I'm only using 3 2hus for battle currently.

Did you buff up some of the trainers past the Norman gym, Agastya? I don't remember so many evolved Touhou around that area. Besides, my rival just hit me up with a rather unexpected team.

>>10383299
They're not translations. I gave up on anybody translating them and I didn't want to ask for it so I just wrote terrible ones myself. I guess they're not that bad if people like them though?

>>10383354
Trainers with the best movesets are still pushovers since they don't get EVs and the AI is balls.

>>10383582
It's been like that ever since I edited the game past that point. Evolutions become far more common there since battling nothing but chibis over halfway in would be soul-crushingly boring.

Fuck, trying to level C. Kaguya is painful.

>>10384225
Ruckee Eggu

>>10384249
That wouldn't be of much help as the issue is more her pitiful Speed and paper defenses.

>>10384271
Is Kaguya your starter? Otherwise just use the old "switch weak pokemon out immediately" strategy until it becomes strong enough to fight by itself. It taks some time, but i'm pretty sure no one plays Touhoumon at less than 400% speed anyway...

I just started playing the Emerald hack.

Why is Sanae so shit? She's crushed by Nazrins using tackle.

>>10384459
She's by and large the most difficult starter to begin with. The first gym is also beast type. Have fun!

>>10384486
It's not like there aren't plenty of somewhat decent Touhous before that though.

Where can I get that Emerald hack?
I remember playing Puppet Play Enhanced a while back but forgot where I got it from.

>>10384616
http://lkaexe.supersanctuary.net/thmnem18/

>>10384723
Ugh... this seems like a pain in the ass.
Anyone got a ready to play version or something?

>>10384764
www.megaupload.com/TE845DASTYL

>>10384764
http://www.mediafire.com/?zb34kwzeafhip

Water touhous sure do feel rare.

>>10384828
Thanks.

Just a question, how can you tell if a move is physical or special?
In PPE they had those little icons, can't see anything like that here though.

>>10384764
>>10384828
>>10385078
it's like nobody reads anything.

>>10384764
>>10384828
>>10385078
it's like nobody reads anything.

>>10384764
holy shit
1. run lunar ips
2. select the patch and the rom
3. use powers of deduction to find the right button to pres-ok seriously it's the "apply patch" button
4. just kidding there is no 4

Some of these encounter rates in Emerald 1.8 really tickle my autism.

Decided to go with Kogasa instead of Aya because Hatate comes too late. What kind of things does she bring to the table?

>>10374038
wait what version of the game are you doing? emerald?

>>10386210
Agastya's Emerald hack, but with starters changed. I don't like the defaults, or waiting too long for something I'd like to use. CKasen is at Battle Frontier, so post-game, so no way.

>>10386203
That applied to Emerald as well, I've caught one.

>>10386027
Fucking CTewi, I tell you. Dat fucking CTewi.

Is Seiga any good? I want to use her but her ability is worthless and I would have to level her from 5.

Emerald version by the way

>>10386531
Seiga rocks. Besides, she looks good, too. Nasty Plot, Mana Burst, Dark Pulse and something else of your choice would be a fine setup for sweeping, I guess.

Just keep her away from Heart shit.

I need a quick answer.
Are faith attacks mostly physical or special?

>>10386943
I don't think that there is a strong bias in either direction.

I hope Nazrin doesn't suck just because she's one of the more common touhou that you find.

>>10386388
CYumemi in New Mauville might be worse. I must've spent close to 2 hours with the game as fast I could get it before I ran into one.
At least I managed to get a nice stock pile of rare candies off of all the CIku's I caught.

>>10387213
I was trying forever for a Kaguya, and even longer for a CLolice in Safari Zone. After that, I breed them until their vaginas turned sore and made a team only made up of Lolice. Fucking Touhoumon.

>faint attack

>>10386388
Wat.
Is CTewi rare or something? She is literally the first touhou I came across in route 116.

>>10387752
Somewhat rare. She's nothing compared to CYumemi/CKaguya/CYumeko though (I think those 3 are around the same).

>>10387204
She seems perfectly usable. The game is pretty balanced. Hell Star Sapphire is perhaps one of the better puppets

>>10387776
Or CKoishi. Or CKanaka. FUCK THOSE LOW ENCOUNTER RATES.

>>10387752
Nah, not really. What IS rare is her Lucky Egg hold item, though. At 5% chance, coupled with her somewhat lowish 10% encounter rate, you can do the math to figure out how long it fucking takes to fucking steal one.

>>10387801
Well shit, I thought I'd stick around to see if I could get that lucky egg you speak of, and what do you know, 3rd tewi in just over 5 mins of looking had it.

>>10387898
I hate you.

>>10387898

>>10387904
>>10387923
My low level Kyouko is enjoying the extra exp, thanks for the tip about the egg.

>>10387943
Got another, still no shiny Kyouko though baww.

>>10388181
I grinded out the ass for one of them myself, but found another when I caught a Tewi at whim.

>Maribel's Swiftswim T. Nitori on Route 119.
Well fuck you too.

>>10388474
It only rains on certain days, so you can play with your system clock to make it stop raining.

>>10388524
I managed to pull through mostly thanks to Futo's 4x Water resist, but that was still a nasty surprise.

>>10387801
What does the Lucky Egg do?

>>10388792
Increases EXP given.

Holy shit, that Safari Zone selection.
I sure hope none of these 2hus are absurdly rare.

>>10367942
What's a "Faint Attack"? Is it anything like a feint?

>>10389057
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/int_Attack_%28move%29#Trivia

Anyone know a good way to make money on here? I want to buy Miko but she costs quite alot...

>>10389313
Gameshark/Action Replay

No really, even with frame by frame play, you will not get 7 7 7 at the slots. Your best bet is to just cheat money/coins for that one moment.

>>10389313
First thing would be to get the Donation Box from Mom after beating Norman.
Otherwise, Tohonav. I think there was a Rich Boy in Petalburg woods or something that should be fairly easy and gives upwards of 6000 when maxed if I remember RSE correctly.

>>10389328
the slots are literally rigged. each slot has a special at the start of the script that probably determines odds (or just tells the game which slot you're playing) but i'll be damned if i can figure it out beyond that.

>>10389313
farm ufos, farm ev berries if you want to mess with your system clock, or wait until mt pyre to capture one.

>>10386203
She's pretty damn good if you're willing to breed nasty plot onto her. I once managed to sweep almost the entire elite four just by using a SKogasa with Ice Beam, Nasty Plot, Shadow Ball, and that water move that does less damage the less health you have.

Overall, I'd say she's a damn good 2hu

Would Regular Youmu or Speed Youmu be a better choice?
Which one has a cuter sprite?

The Nazrin is for HMs. I'll be able to complete my party soon with Yumeko and Seiga, and for once I'll have something resembling type diversity.

>>10389479
When I finally get trading set up, and have more reason to put effort in to raising and stuff, I'll have a look at that. I might've put her into S forme but it's too late for that. Oh well.

>>10389565
Probably Regular Youmu on both choices.

>>10389605
I'll just save before letting Youmu evolve and decide that way, I think.

>>10389015
I know right? It's a damn cornucopia. Now I just need to figure out what to do with my CYukari. Think I may go advent.

>>10389828
The fact that it's mostly new Touhous, combined with using the Acro Bike to not use up steps made me not move on until I had grabbed every non Mach Bike area one.

>>10389781
You don't really need to worry about saving.
You can switch between evolutions at any time and even revert to normal form if you like.

>>10389888
that only applies to aichiya's firered 1.8 hack

>>10389913
Really? I thought it worked in emerald too.
Well damn.

>>10389929
Emerald allows you to use shard evolutions at any time though, whereas Aichiya's requires the national dex (excluding, was it HKeine?). It's a tradeoff.

Oh man, dat Kirisame and dat 140 base special.

>>10390403
Personally, I prefer Marisa. Kirisame's slow as fuck. I was a bit disappointed when I found out (after I leveled her up, fucking bitch).

Is there a sprite sheet that has all of the shiny touhous on it? The only ones I've seen are the ones posted on /jp/, and I'm curious as to what all the others look like

>>10390494
Sure, if you want to spoil yourself.

http://lkaexe.supersanctuary.net/thmon1pritedump/

>>10390494
Download Shoddy Touhoumon 2 (you'll need a Java JRE to run it) and open the Team Builder. You can look at all sprites, shiny or not, there.

>>10390479
Base 90 isn't so bad.
It's not like I don't have other faster 2hus to take care of other fast things.
Like Yumemi.

>>10390510
>>10390515

thanks

Man, I wish Advent Yukari's sprite didn't look so wonky. Now do I give this solar shard to her or Reisen shitshitshitshitshit

Is it possible to finish the game even if I only use my favourite Touhous? Would using stuff like Satori/Koishi on the same team give me shitty type coverage?

>>10391186
Some characters can solo the game (mostly sweepers) and it's better in 1.8 since for example, Satori can serve multiple roles, not just as a Wobbuffet. But there's a couple of potential issues: 4x weaknesses, some puppets are plain weak (unevolved forms, Reisen II), or ones that don't match your playing style. Barring those you may just have to level a little higher than normal.

Also you'll probably want to make an exception for HM slaves even though some of the moves are worth using.

>>10391186
As >>10391365 said, keep at least two (completely) different typings around that do not overlap in weaknesses (for example Fire, Water or Reason, Faith). That way, you can switch to your backup Touhou and get away with it most of the time. As for coverage, you can check http://maya.sector-5.net/py/touhou/intective/ if you're too lazy to read the type chart.

Having a bunch of wall Touhou isn't as important in the game, as the AI generally doesn't come up with tactics that would require walling, so you're usually best off evolving all your Touhou into attack forms. Personally, I find wall Touhou boring and hard to level with.

Yesterday, I made a TCirno with Nasty Plot, Ice Beam and Surf. Is Sonicboom the only viable addition to this set? Steel doesn't seem to add much to Ice/Water, apart from a counter to Ice.

Huh! Apparently in Emerald, if a puppet with Compoundeyes (Focus?) is leading the party, it increases the probability of a held item by 50%. That'll be useful for finding a Lucky Egg.

>>10391952
That'd be pretty good. Hatate and Ichirin are probably the only candidates that are available somewhat early in the game.

>>10391952
oh fucking hell, and here I just spent hours getting a solar shard from a cyukari

>>10392190
50% up from 5% is still only 7.5%.

>>10392190
the funny part is that at that point in the game, you could have just waited for about half an hour of gameplay and used the red ufo traders + the few easily obtainable red ufos instead

I definitely need to play a randomized run of this after I beat it once.

>>10392234
That's still a significant increase. And for 50% items you'll find them 75% of the time. Even more of an increase.

>>10391966
CHatate comes earliest, she's somewhere between gym 3 and 4. CIchirin isn't until after gym 5.

>>10392695
th-that's not very funny ;_;

I notice that Byakuren isn't called Hijiri in Shoddy Touhoumon anymore. For the longest time, I thought she was banned because I couldn't find her in the team builder.

For the record, this is the team I will try next. Fuck balance, I have fairies!

I notice that Byakuren isn't called Hijiri in Shoddy Touhoumon anymore. For the longest time, I thought she was banned because I couldn't find her in the team builder.

For the record, this is the team I will try next. Fuck balance, I have fairies!

>>10396200
Team posting time? Have yet to decide on a 6th.

Also man TByakuren learns some great moves

>>10397074
Yeah, TByakuren is awesome. Too bad that she cannot naturally learn most of her cool moves, and her egg moves are mostly special only. For some reason, I always shy away from Touhou that require extensive TM usage.

>>10384965
you can get star sapphire pretty early.

Does tewi's item steal move (wanting) always suceed if the enemy has an item? or is it % based? because if i've only got a CHANCE to steal an item with a 5% appearance rate, I think I'd rather just move on with my game.

>>10397691
I have no reason to believe that it's just a chance. If you want reassure yourself use it against CNazrins; they should always be carrying a green ufo

>>10397771
Alrighty, I guess I'm just hellishly unlucky with tewi's holding lucky eggs. I'll give it one more hour, then just move on I guess.

>>10397814
Huh, and I get one right as I complain about not being able to get one.

RNG is a strange mistress, sometimes.

>>10397691
The only reasons it should fail is if you're holding an item already or the target has Sticky Hold.

I personally never bothered hunting for Lucky Eggs and would only thief the Tewis while I was training for Roxanne, so I got used to not using one.

Playing this for the first time, is it generally better to evolve my little tohomons using stones or by level?

>>10391759
What the fuck is walling?

>>10398213
A wall is usually a pokemon with high HP and/or defensive stats, usually used to stall out a battle and take it or set up some sort of entree hazards or something like a substitute to baton pass, take Blissey for example.

>>10397915
Ahh, yeah, I thought I might as well grab one because my preplanned team has a lot of mid-late game little girls, so it'd help me get them up to snuff way down the line, and having a lot more exp that early in the game is a nice touch to stave off the grind.

>>10398213
> is it generally better to evolve my little tohomons using stones or by level?

It depends on which evolution you want. Early on you're access to shards is going to be limited which may be a deciding factor in some cases. If evolving by stones it is a good idea to wait till around the level they would evolve anyways so they learn all their moves.

Its almost time for me to evolve my yuugi, but I'd like some opinions first.

As per wiki, regular Yuugi has 30 more p. attack in comparison to d. yuugi, and also more speed, but she wont get stab from dream-type moves. I dont know if I need yet another A-form on my team so I was wondering if it'd be better to just go with the D-form for STAB, or would that bonus 30 points to her base attack do more for her attacks? I'm not too terribly familiar with pokemon past the basics, so I was wondering if anyone knew which one would end up with more damage? STAB or the +30 points into attack?

>>10399663
if we're restricting the discussion to dream type attacks I'm pretty sure the STAB will outweigh the base stat difference.

>>10398634
Personally, for people new to 1.8 or Touhoumon, I'd stick with the regular evolutions. For one, you can look at the chibi puppet's base stats and decide easily what role it would fit, and that role will still apply when evolved. The side evolutions usually do a 180 on you and the puppet ends up with a completely different focus, so the moves you will have learned up until then sometimes end up useless. Of course, this is only a problem until you can access the Move Tutor.

Besides, I find that the regular evolutions offer the most balanced movepool.

Oh, and the overall stat sum is the same for all side evolutions, so you're not losing any power regardless of choice.

>>10400114
Ohh, is that so? I'll roll with that then, or just say screw it, raise a tnitori to tank everything and go with AYuugi

So what's a better ability for Nue? Pressure seems kind of useless, but I'm afraid that if I get one with Colour Change she'll be screwed over by ghost types and enemies with wide type coverage.

>>10400231
I'm not into competitive battling and such, but for my own Touhou, I always try to carry a STAB move and a move that would be effective against this type to prevent getting stalled by a Touhou of the same type. So, in this context, you'd likely suffer with Color Change. Not all Touhou have such good coverage, though.

I just got trading to work in VBA-M but it's got a weird bug, and is quite awkward to set up and cripples the game speed. How well does it work in other emulators?

>>10400402
Worse. VBA-M already integrates everything from VBA-Link, so there really isn't any better way to trade.

>>10400419
That's pretty depressing. But as it works, what broken puppets should I give myself to start with next time?

>>10400161
what you say is true, but there's no reason one couldn't just look at a touhoudex. If they're adverse to that for some reason yeah it would be better to stick to level up evos.

>>10401263
Tensoku. Little girls vs. giant mech: the ravaging

>>10401517
This is what I get for being unspecific. Girls only, but übers are fine.

>>10401548
CMarisa or CReimu. 1.5 style all the way.

>>10401573
Alright, I'll fill in the rest on my own then.

Saving this thread from its demise.

Kasen is a late bloomer (L40). So is that Seiga egg, hurry up and hatch already.

>>10406906
where do you get Kasen anyways?

Also was Seiga recently changed from reason/dark to faith/dark. Thought I remembered her being the former.

>>10406906
there's an "egg hatcher" in the shape of a Toho Orb in the day care. If it's not there get the most recent patch.

>>10407592
i'm afraid to imagine somebody could be playing a build before the egg hatcher existing since it's been around for so long

that'd include the old broken phys/spec split and actual trade evolutions and a bunch of other things i didn't like

hell that might be before i actually finished the main game too

>>10406906
The other day, I was playing my randomized ROM and it placed a CKasen right in the first area. "Lucky me", was what I was thinking, until I realized that she had a catch rate of 1, making it pretty fucking impossible to catch her with normal balls.

>>10410097
you can't capture her in the wild anyway. if you do then the game tries to pull a pokedex entry for her and her slot doesnt have any, so it flips out and crashes.

same reason that i couldn't put her nor the stones in the frontier. saddening, really.

>>10407592
>>10407719
...I totally missed that. But it's too late I hatched her last night while leveling up. She'll be chilling with an Exp. share for a while.

>>10407496
See >>10386273 and yeah someone mentioned Seiga was Dark/Reason in an older thread, she is now Dark/Faith.

>>10410118
Can't you add new ones? I did post about where the table that maps Touhous to dex entries was.

>>10410338
expanding the parts of the pokedex that actually have new entries is more effort than its worth for me (and most people in general, considering how buggy the patch that does it to fr is) considering i don't plan on adding anything else to the wild.

>>10410338
I somewhat preferred Seiga as Dark/Reason. Reason is where the cool people hang out, Faith is for suckers.

>>10411452
Personally I think Dark/Faith is more fitting. And I'm sure most of us can agree that the last thing touhoumon needs is MORE reason types

Did anyone ever run a Satori~n set? Transform into your enemy and do things better than they do sounds like a good deal to me.

>>10369457

Anyone knows when I get a Speed Shard in Emerald? I also remember reading about stealing a Solar Shard from a trainer. Anyone knows exactly which trainer?

>>10411775
Never mind, already stole one from C fucking Rin. Dark Alice here I come!

>>10369457
I love this site design.

neet

>>10411987

>>10411987
WHY? I have been playing almost non-stop the last few days. FUCK.

>>10412200
I've been soft resetting for a shiny starter for 5 days, you don't know shit about autism.

>>10412233
Presumably, there's an article on Smogon about RNG abuse for 100% guaranteed shiny eggs. Too high-level for me, though. Besides, I don't know if it works with VBA.

>>10412243
I'm playing HeartGold, they're too lazy to find out more about that.

>>10412254
So, did you get that shiny-shiny starter, then?

>>10412262

>>10411467
I'm happy without the 4x Heart weakness. But when does she get better moves? Psywave is crap.

>>10412200
You do realize just how rare they are, right? I mean I've found three over all my Touhoumon playthroughs.

>>10412277
She learns Mana Burst some time after she evolves, I think. Not sure. YAPE doesn't seem to like her entry much (it claims she learns it at level 7, but I distinctively remember she learned it around 30 or 40 some revisions ago).

And, why yes, I do realize. I'm >10374026

>New Mauville (24.53)
>====================
>Grass:
>------
>- CNitori (50%) - 1 SATK
>- CRika (35%) - 1 DEF
>- CEirin (5%) - 2 HP
>- CRikako (4%) - 1 SATK
>- CIku (4%) - 1 SATK
>- CYumemi (2%) - 2 SATK

Imagine you're running around for two fucking hours looking for that little bitch CYumemi, and then you encounter her and get so excited that you accidentally hit quick-load instead of quick-save.

>>1041233
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Also two hours? You have some shit luck.

all I want

is one with a modest nature

Is Yoshika in? I think I'd play for her alone.

>>10412375
Does your Koakuma have Synchronize+Modest?

>>10412322
Oh sorry I didn't notice your ID. And, it's not L40 so maybe it's a little higher.

>>10412375
Did you seriously catch all these Koishi? Personally, I catch 10000 Kedama from Safari Zone and then breed the one with the desired nature and Everstone.

>>10412403
Yes. In 1.8 Emerald, at least.

>>10412335
Imagine my pain when the first CYumemi I caught had an Adamant nature.

>>10412413
I feel like an idi
ot for asking but is there a wiki I can look over for capture rates, areas , movesets and all that?

>>10412425
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhoudex_2 - This isn't 100% accurate for Emerald, but has most level-up moves, stats and so on.
http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/ - This is 100% accurate for Emerald, but doesn't list when a Touhou lerns a certain move.
http://lkaexe.supersanctuary.net/thmnemer18/usefulthings/ - List of encounters, egg moves, wild Touhou and so on.

>>10412431
Thank you very much, I think I'm gonna start playing this today.

>>10412431
For some reason, half of my post was eaten. Fuck you, moot.

>>10412431 (try again
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhoudex<wbr>
This wiki isn't 100% accurate, but has almost complete movesets, stats, and evolution lines
http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/wikiThis is 100% accurate for Emerald, but doesn't list when a Touhou lerns a certain move
http://lkaexe.supersanctuary.net/thmnem18/usefulthingsEgg moves, wild Touhou locations, and other useful things.

>>1041241this reminds me; in a kind anon in an old thread posted a save file containing perfect IVs kendamas of all natures: http://www.mediafire.com/?0gkkendh3sl5k<wbr>

can't remember what hack the save is for but it doesn't matter

>>10412404
I just remembered she no longer has Reason typing. Maybe she no longer learns Mana Burst naturally (i.e. without Move Tutor) at all. Level 41 should be Dark Pulse. That should do for STAB damage.

>>10412490
That's correct, and also totally fine. It's something with good special damage, something that she desperately needed.

>>10412569
I somewhat reluctantly leveled a Shou for a while. It completely sucked all the way from level 20 to 40. After that, it finally got a decent special attack and started to grow on me (it has .

That being said, why are many Touhou so hard to start off with?

>>10411822
my high school html skills are peerless

>>10411775
i never put evolution stones on trainers

>>10412243
my hack uses a modified rng, so the smogon articles about em rng abuse don't apply

So in the latest patch notes, it says that Tojiko can no longer learn Aeroblast. I haven't patched the game yet, but my Tojiko already knows Aeroblast. So what will happen when I patch it? Will she still know Aeroblast, or will I open up the game just to see that she only has 3 moves?

>>10412916
Yes.

>>10412920
yes to what?

>>10412916
she'll still know aeroblast, but if you remove it she won't be able to relearn it.

>>10412924
Okay, I see. Thanks.
Also, I like the new tohodex entries

>>10412968
christ what

>>10413006
Well I guess this confirms my suspicion that I somehow managed to fuck up while patching it

>>10413023
didn't patch using a clean rom?

>>10413035

nope

>>10413006
>>10413023
>>10413042
same happened to me, although my backsprite wasn't nearly as fucked up as yours
oh well, rather this than having to replay everything

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/45476381/The%2hiny%20Ran%20that%20i%20had%20for%20a%long%20time.PNHere is a Shiny Rin that I had for a very, very long time while i was hatching eggs for a good nature\iv chibi rin.

>>10413071
Well that didn't went as planned at all, I'm guessing I'm either bad at this or 4chan doesn't like dropbox.

>>10413078
>>10413071
faggot

>>10413062
Just transfer your save.

I'm just going to ask this here, probably a stupid question:

How do you use the Heart Stones in Puppet Play Enhanced 1.18? Do you have to just use it on the one you want before they evolve by level? Or do they have to be holding it when they evolve by level? Every time I've tried it just says "Huh?" and that's it.

>>10413223
It's pretty simple. It work the same way that stone evolution work in vanilla pokemon; just use the shard on a viable puppet, level doesn't matter, as long as the puppet can use the shard.

Unless you're playing Fire Red, in which case you won't be able to use shard evos until after you beat the elite four. Sorry

>>10413223
It's pretty simple, really. Just select whatever shard you want to use, and then select a puppet capable of evolving with it. Level doesn't matter, and you have to use it on the puppet. Don't make it hold the shard, or nothing will happen

>>10413223
You need national pokedex to use stones, the only exception is A Keine (you also need to use em while in their chibi form).

>>10413288
I see. Well that sucks, needing a National Pokedex really ruins the plans I had for my lineup. Oh well. Thanks for the answer, though.

>>10413288
in that hack they don't need to be in their chibi forms, so after the E4 you can go nuts

>>10412592
I can't really hate that as it gives a sense of development. I mean Seiga was still able to kill things around her level, as was everyone else. And you're supposed to be new. And you can gift yourself powerful things early into the game if you want.

>>10413023
>>10413062
Use the Beat patch instead. If you try to apply it to the wrong file patching will fail.

>>10414442
Actually I managed to fix it a while ago. Thanks anyway

This is the first time I've ever encountered a shiny, and I've done multiple playthroughs of Pokemon games hacked and non-hacked. I shall treasure her forever.

>>10414703
Green Mystia is green as fuck.

Hey guys, I'm standing in front of Victory Road (in Emerald) with this team:

Dark Alice
- Aurora Beam
- Fire Blast
- Hyper Beam
- Mana Burst

Shou
- Extrasensory
- Heat Wave
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Yamame
- Earthquake
- Poison Jab
- Shadow Hit
- Pursuit

Any idea for adding another one? I'm thinking of dropping Yamame, so maybe some physical attacker. Or something bulky. No idea, really.

>>10417103
I've had a lot of luck with my D.Parsee, give her some leftovers and some slow damage moves (I've got toxic, curse, and, uh, nightmare, I think it was) , and she seems to be able to stand up to almost anything. She gets back the hp from curse pretty quickly because of the leftovers, and everything else just takes a slow death to toxic while trying to take her out.

Dammit, why do all of the late game puppets only give special evs? I didn't even realize how many of hers evs were being wasted until I saw this. I swear to god, the first thing I'm doing when I get to the battle frontier is buying as many hondew berries as I can afford

>>10412268
http://oi50.tinypic.com/3531kc6.jpg
My anal devastation when I wanted a Totodile instead.

>>10417406
Thank you. Sounds like a good deal.

>>10417678
Because all the cool Touhou are special attackers, and trainers tend to carry only cool Touhou later on. Hell, I end up with a special attacker only team every fucking time.

For the record, you can buy items to reduce EVs (in Emerald) from a guy in the Day Care center even before reaching Battle Frontier.

>>10367942
Raticate
-Confuse
-Psych
-Solar Beam
-Leech Seed

>>10417678
Why is Koishi so delicious when viewed from the rear?

Did anyone ever consider sorting the Touhou in Shoddy Touhoumon's team builder by species and evolution? When I want to switch one Touhou from AXXX to SXXX, I have to scroll down half the list. That's pretty annoying.

For battles I'm enforcing a three-puppets-max rule as it works better for how I play. So the remaining three can fit HM moves, but I'm curious if it's possible to fit all HMs between two puppets. This applies to Emerald.

>>10420236
it's not a very good solution but you can just type out the full name of the species to jump between them quickly

>>10420627
namazu can use rock smash/strength/surf/waterfall and nue can use fly/shadow dive. flash isn't in any dungeons other than granite cave.

>>10420627
Remilia can learn Fly, Cut, Strength, Rock Smash. Kogasa can learn Surf and Shadow Dive. That only leaves Waterfall. I haven't found a way to combine the last three yet (or a better combination for the first four moves), mainly because almost no one can learn Shadow Dive.

>>10420663
That leaves Cut which is somewhat common even if it's not required. Guess I can use a third puppet, I'll need to if I want Secret Power anyway.

>>10420667
I kind of wondered about Mystia instead of Nue but that was Shadow Force, not quite the same thing.

>>10420697
shadow force and shadow dive are interchangeable names. shadow force is more accurate since it's what the move does, but it's shadow dive in em for obvious reasons.

nue can learn secret power and thief as well, though if you want cut utility i'd suggest chibi nazrin since it also has pickup.

>>10420697
The first time I played Emerald, I went with Mystia, too. The only problem is that she only learns Shadow Dive via egg move, so breeding is a must. I was pretty disappointed at that point, as I already had a high-leveled Mystia that I originally planned to continue using.

>>10420709
Oh never mind then, I'll go with Mystia for Fly/Dive because I'm intending to use Nue in the next playthrough. Nazrin can get Flash and Secret Power as well so that covers everything.

>>10420724
It sucks when mistakes are made with a puppet.

My level 73 Dark Alice was just one-shot by a wild level 53 Youmu. Fuck, I thought that dork was supposed to be soft.

>>10424598
She is, but only when you're touching her lewd parts

>>10424598
Overleveling helps but it's not necessarily going to make the game a cakewalk unless you're already good at it. So don't get complacent.

>>10424598
stats are still relevant.

>>10386554
She wrecks hearts and dies to reason now because Agastya changed her reason typing to faith and gave her extrasensory and silver wind over mana burst and luster purge.

Why is CLilyBlack 1.6m large, but LilyBlack 0.3m? It's like she is almost fuckable height.

Is it possible to have the TM descriptions specify whether a move is physical or special? Also, why is Sacred Fire a physical move? It's also stupidly powerful on Yorihime even with the 85 accuracy.

Agastya: CShizuha learns Sleep Powder at 17, and Shizuha again at 33. Is that intentional?

>>10428114
>Is it possibel to have the TM descriptions specify whether a move is physical or special?
every time i considered doing that i either got sidetracked or didnt want to bother repointing text at the moment.

>Also, why is Sacred Fire a physical move?
sacred fire has been physical ever since gen 4. it also has the metal claw effect, so it'd be nonsensical for it to be special.

>>10428138
yeah. blame japan. its most likely so evolved can re-learn it if you delete it. not as bad as tech sanae learning mega drain at level 58.

>>10428147
Nah, that's not all that strange. Considering that Sanae is a slut, it would only be logical for her ``technical'' form to learn an advanced technique of ``draining'' later on.

Might as well pair her up with the other two, I don't want anyone else, and she can use Helping Hand or do chip damage, or be sacrificed to use an item.

>>10428147
TM/HM descriptions
It's not a big deal, most of the moves are self-explanatory. Although...

>Sacred Fire
...I never would've picked that being physical. I'm fine with that.

>>10428267
How about Substitute/Endeavor Reisen II? Since she has such lowly HP, Endeavor might even do pretty good damage - as long as she isn't insta-killed. But who'd attack someone as cute as Reisen II?

>>10428339
Pokémon AIs are heartless and I don't think she gets Attract or anything like that. Anyway the Watatsukis are already overleveled so she won't be battling often. Not enough to warrant breeding/raising a new one just for Substitute. I'll consider that for a new game.

Just throwing this out there. In Emerald, to do the golem puzzle I think Advent Meiling and Speed Flandre are the equivalent to Relicanth and Wailord but I haven't verified this yet, or whether that has been changed.

>>10431314
Locations.txt

>>10431317
And I missed that it was already documented so never mind. And this is on autosage.

>>10431317
that's my job you jerk

I find this funnier than I should

>>10437607
Woops.

Who needs a balanced team when you have Dark Alice and Shou? Well, guess it's no real surprise when they were both 80+.

>>10437607
Yeah, sizes are fucked up all over the board.