/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I was playing a lot of Raijin7 after seeing it in another VN thread. Those kinds of games are pretty addictive, I just wish there was one with higher production values/more content for me to sink my time into.

>>10388108
>>10388104
>>10388095
>>10387884
Thank you gentlemen. I'll skip Jun'ai and Desire for now and pick up the rest, then play Hello World first out of this set. Thanks for your time, really appreciate it.

>>10388730
Junai is actually pretty good. Make sure you don't end up forgetting about it.

>>10388592
>>10388595

So does everything end up okay in the end? Not that guy, but I was also thinking of picking it up.

>>10388752
You get a bittersweet end for the true route if that's what you mean.

Has anyone tried out 七つのふしぎの終わるとき? Haven't heard it so much as mentioned in passing anywhere, and was wondering whether that was because it was forgettably boring or just that no one played it.

>>10389077
Check the archive. Some dude was playing and posting his thoughts on it a couple months back.

>>10389105
Alright thanks, will do.

>>10388405
I'll warn you that, it least from my impression, there isn't much that can prepare you for Muramasa-level vocab besides just playing Muramasa itself. Personally I finished an entire route, took a few weeks off to let my anki decks die down, and then restarted and finally I could read it like a normal VN. I wouldn't recommend going quite that far, but it might be worth going to the end of chapter 1 or 2, just to grab as much vocab as you can for anki, so that after your break you'll actually be able to read it.

I guess it doesn't help that there are so many fighting infodumps in the first few chapters.

just finished Narcissu side 2nd, going for Kana ~ Imouto next... /jp/, I fear I've become unable to cry.. recommend me some of the saddest VN's you've played, please. I want to cry like a little bitch, but it seems impossible

>>10389194
Go read Kana before saying that.
It got me pretty close to crying and I've never cried.

>>10389202
>I've never cried
That's what I call edgy.jpg

You forgot the subject.

How are people supposed to filter this now? For shame.

>>10389202
looking forward to it, then. Havn't played to many VN's so far, any other recommendations? 'utsuge' seems to be the term I'm looking for

>>10389208
I did cry, but I never cried to any form of media before.

I'm not trying to be edgy, I do get emotional but I never actually shed any tears.

>>10389223
Planetarian if you haven't already. Short but sweet.

>>10388695
Why are they all staring at you? Is this some sort of NTR misunderstanding?

>>10389240
It's just a guy throwing down a girl and grabbing her breasts

>>10389238
that's one of the few I already played. I really liked it but it didn't make me cry

Newfag here seeking for some knowledge. (Hope I'm not posting on the wrong place)

Has anyone played the japanese version of Yume Miru Kusuri to confirm that there's no hidden Aya route?

I'm going through Fal's route on Symphonic Rain and the rhythm sections are hard....the two hands have different rhythms making me mess up.

Do your performance actually matter though?

>>10389279
I'm pretty sure there's something in the settings that has it do those parts automatically if you're worried about that, but most of the time, I don't think it really matters as long as you finish

Will I miss anything important if I turn the gameplay off in Sharnoth? It's pretty boring.

>>10389279
You need above 3/5 medals on the final recital performance I think, and you get an extra line or two if you get higher. I could be wrong though, it's been a while.

>>10389270
http://g-seeker.net/game/y/yumemirukusuri.html

>>10389145
Do you manually create cards for unknown words you encounter in games?

How good is Daitoushoukan?

>>10389382
The game isn't out yet.

>>10389385
I mean, the trial.

>>10389389
Why don't you just play the trial for yourself and see...?

>>10389367
Yes.
>>10389389
It was fun. Nothing really happened. Three good heroines with no announced routes ;_;

>>10389362
I'd appreciate a more straight-forward answer but I'll take a guess on what you meant with that...

Is that a walkththrough? Is it showing only 3 routes meaning there's no Aya route?
In that case thanks a lot anon.

>>10389382
Take a look at the best part of the game. pic related.

>>10389391
But I just wanted to hear /jp/'s opininion of it... Of course I will form my own opinion by reading it later.

>>10389398
It's really annoying when the artist goes through all the trouble of drawing full body shots but you barely see the lower half in game. Especially when the artist is good at drawing legs/feet.

>>10389398
I want to lickk her legs

>>10389412
I hate that too because I have a leg and legwear fetish and most of the time you can see to just barely below the skirt.

>>10389398
That's not Kana.

>>10389467
i'm going to play the hell out of this when it comes out

>>10389382
Reading the trial right now in preparation. Girls are good, art is nice, and story is decent. My only trouble is the the MC's inner narrative is verbose as fuck.

>>10389398
>>10389467
That's not Miyu

>>10389725
She looks like she'd done that before.
What a slut.

>>10389725
This is why I prefer all ages games. She looks like a fucking slut doing this shit, and I prefer my girls pure.

>>10389738
I remember 1 all-ages VN last year with a lot of cocktease. So much that one (or several) anon(s) commented something about waiting for X-rated version.

>>10389744
Da Capo?

So I was thinking of playing the 360 version of ever17 how hard wold you guys say it is?

>>10389744
>>10389745
Sounds like D.C.III to me.

>>10389738
>She looks like a fucking slut doing this shit
That's why it's hot.

>I prefer my girls pure.
How do you fap?

>>10389949
Not every one has the mind of a horny teenager.

>>10389986
Oh right we have some subhuman gay population here also

>>10389986
Most people who play these games have working dicks and no girlfriends.

>>10389949
That's what nukige are for.

>>10390021
To me, fapping to a Nukige, while hot, feels a bit empty afterwards. Fapping to a properly done H-scene on a VN where the writer has a writing style that makes you bond with the heroine is much more satisfying. Unfortunately, such VNs are very rare. I guess you can't have everything.

>>10390021
Fapping to nukige is unsatisfactory. Also, there's nothing more annoying than a good cock tease. If you're going to have romance, bishoujo elements in your game, you better have porn. Most other types of games are better off without them.

So the combat in the material brave demo was disappointing as hell, who's ready to be disappointed again?

>>10390054
>Fapping to nukige is unsatisfactory.
Speak for yourself. The sole purpose for their existence is to fap to. A vanilla sex scene in a typical eroge isn't even arousing to me.
>If you're going to have romance, bishoujo elements in your game, you better have porn.
Or what? There are plenty of totally successful games with romance or "bishoujo" elements without porn.

>>10390067
Wasn't the thing most people complained about the story? Did they do any thing with that?

>>10390069
the demo was just pretty much here's two stages with sub par combat, no tutorial and no story at all, have fun

Needless to say I'm pissed off

>>10390076
The cover art for it bothers me. Their chests should be reversed.

>>10390069
The matter of the fact is, most people who play these games want ero in them. Otherwise, producers wouldn't bother to have their artists draw smut and have their time better spent on drawing more regular CGs.

>A vanilla sex scene in a typical eroge isn't even arousing to me.

Me neither. That's why I don't play them.

>>10390154
I can't read all ages vn at all.
It feels like it's missing something and makes me feel irritated. Specially if it's cockteasing as hell.

>>10390207
Me too. The romance just somehow feels incomplete. Which is weird since I don't even fap to normal h-scenes so it's not like I feel the need to fap to the girl or something.

>>10390288
Sex is a natural part of romance and it feels weird when they dance around it.

The ideal solution is brief sex scenes that actually have to do with the characters and their feelings instead of HER CUNT WAS SQUEEZING DOWN ON MY MEMBER WITH CLAMP FACTOR 11 for 500 lines.

I liked the sex in Inganock, for example, it didn't make me cringe or feel like I was playing something embarrassingly immature

Oh by the way /jp/.
Have anyone played this?
Does it even worth the download? (Well, if I can find it)

>>10390339
>I liked the sex in Inganock, for example, it didn't make me cringe or feel like I was playing something embarrassingly immature
Exactly, those are the types of h-scenes I like to see. It felt like they actually fit well with and gave you more insight into the characters, as opposed to being cheesy fap fuel and, in the worst cases, completely out-of-character. Though I'm not saying that I expect your average moege to handle them like that or anything.
Now that I think about it I can't think of many VNs I've read that do h-scenes well like that, then again I've only read a relatively small amount of serious VNs I guess.

>>10390339
This. I usually skip sex scenes once they get toh that part, but if they were short and contributed to the romance I would enjoy them a lot more.

>>10389762
did no one here play it or something?

I just want an estimate before I try

>>10390339
I think WA2 had the perfect balance between fapability and naturalness.

>>10390420
Most people here can't actually read Japanese, and instead rely on text hookers. Then, of the people who can read Japanese, playing a console version of a VN in most cases means you have to buy it, which few people are willing to do, especially for a VN they may have already read ages ago.

>>10390468
I only use ITH just so I can copy paste the words I want to look up in a dictionary like jisho, so does that mean I don't know Japanese?

>>10390468
I was playing the ps2 version of Himawari when it was posted here by someone. I just don't have any consoles newer than that.

>>10390468
I was playing the ps2 version of Himawari when it was posted here by someone. I just don't have any consoles newer than that and I'm not sure if there are emulators for newer ones.

>>10390468
>Most people here can't actually read Japanese, and instead rely on text hookers
Is that really true? I see a lot of people discussing PSX, PS2, and other console VNs, and I'm pretty sure you can't hook those. Though I have seen some people straight up post a screen shot of a game with TA open which lowers my confidence. Unless you're referring to using text hookers as a means of looking up kanji, which I've seen people say they do a lot.

>>10390491
Well, like I said, of the people that can read Japanese, you can't emulate a 360, so you'd have to actually go out and spend money, which most people aren't willing to do.

>>10390498
I have a Japanese 360 and I'm willing to spend money on it, I guess I should of phrased the question how difficult was the original script for ever17

>>10390485
you're using a crutch and you will never learn japanese because of it, just kill yourself already

>>10390493
Why is using TA something negative? It's a great learning tool for someone who is trying to improve their knowledge of the language, I mean sure its stupid to just go through an entire VN relying only on google translate with the text hooker or something, but if they are actually making a concious effort to attempt to translate it themselves with TA, I don't see a problem at all.

>>10390507
Sorry, I haven't actually played Ever17, so when you were asking how hard it was, I thought you were referencing gameplay or something.

>>10390516
no I meant like how difficult to read as in are the technical explanations really over explained and use advanced kanji, etc

>>10390468

The other problem is that I bet a lot of people here read Ever17 in English years ago, even if they read VNs in Japanese now. That's the case for me, at least.

>>10390522
I was just wondering if people ever went back and read the original script when the 360 version came out

>>10389762
> xbox 360 version
There's the problem. I don't own an xbox 360, nor do I plan on ever buying one.
Plus, there's a PC version of ever17. If a port doesn't do much besides adding a half-assed route, I won't buy it. Better use my money on limited pre-order bonus releases from a company I like.

>>10390493
> Is that really true?
The question is, what's the degree of fluency. I can read and understand simple words and construct simple sentences, but some VN writers abuse a lot of kanji and vocabulary when they could write it in simpler terms. Text hookers helps a lot.

What are some sister routes/games that actually have a sense of taboo/immorality?

Ideally nukige, though I'll take what I can get.

>>10390522
>The other problem is that I bet a lot of people here read Ever17 in English years ago
How is that a problem?

>>10390513
When I think of TA I just think of a program that lets you use multiple machine translators at once, I don't know if there's any other features than that so I might be misinformed. I mean, any method that allows you to learn the language can't be "negative". As long as you are indeed learning it. The only bad thing in my opinion is the people on hongfire and vndb that make no effort to even look at the Japanese text and just mindlessly read what the translator spits out. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them don't even know kana. I would really like to think that there aren't people here who read VNs like that and then post and participate in discussions about them with everyone else.

>>10390493
I use TA + mecab as a fast way to look up anything I don't know.

>>10390513
Most people out there, not necessarily in this thread mind you, use TA as a means to machine translate their way through Japanese games. I remember seeing it all the time for Baldr Sky, Muv Luv, various nukige, etc. so when people hear of someone relying on TA to read through a game, it can sometimes give a bad impression.

Of course there is nothing wrong with using TA to supplement your lack of kanji knowledge or something while learning.

>>10390537
He is saying because a lot of people have already read the (poorly) translated version of Ever17, they probably don't know how hard it is to read in Japanese.

I don't understand how some of you can play with text hookers and machine translators, considering how bad they are. Even if you understand roughly what's being said, it can't be very enjoyable to read the shit that comes out of them.

>>10390551
>text hookers
But text hookers aren't bad. They do exactly what they are supposed to do.

>>10390553
I thought they worked together.

>>10390551
Translation patches work the same...
Doesn't them?

>>10390551
I'm pretty sure the only thing most people in this thread use TA, ITH, and other programs for, is for "supplementing" their reading. As in, quickly looking up unknown kanji, seeing the furigana, etc. Text hookers and machine translators aren't the same thing and I think a lot of people don't realize that.

>>10390533
Most that I can think of fall into "Oh no onii-chan/imouto-chan I love you, but we can't do this so I'm going to angst about it for a couple of hours."

Otherwise the only thing I can think of that's somewhat like that is Furifure 2 atleast at first.

>>10390551
We don't read everything the machine translation spits out. We just use it to look up what we don't know.

>>10390542
mecab is nice. There are vocabularies that I understand because I often hear them, but never bothered to learn the kanji.

>>10390533
I've been looking for these too, but more on the non-nukige side of things.

The only ones I've found so far that satisfied me in that regard were Hatsukoi, sorta Natsumero, and sorta Real Imouto ga Iru.

I too would welcome any other suggestions.

>>10390538
Well its a bit customizeable in the translation tools it will display, but what makes it useful as a learning tool is that it will display the original japanese text but highlighted or spaced out a bit to seperate the particles/vocab, as well as displaying furigana for any kanji

Also WWWJDIC included for any new words you come across, really for anyone who is actually using it properly the auto translation tools will hardly come into effect unless you just want to check what you think the sentence means against the "translated" one to compare (which doesn't work 95% of the time anyway).

>>10388706
Glad to see someone else is playing that game.

You should try Raijin6 too, it's more complex.
Raijin7 simplified a lot of stuff.

>I just wish there was one with higher production values/more content for me to sink my time into.
Agreed, if Daiteikoku was like this it would've been a masterpiece.

>>10390566
>>10390533

Tasogare no Sinsemilla has one of my favorite imoutos. There's also Tsukihime I guess.

>>10390557
This. Yes.

I can play games without a assistance just fine, and I think a lot of people in this thread can too. It's just nice to have something on hand instead of manually looking up specific words or failing to remember readings. However I wish that TA offered a dictionary in Japanese because it's so convenient for those instances, and usually besides furigana readings, I don't want a translation of a word, I want a definition.

>>10390576
>Tasogare no Sinsemilla
Oh yeah, that one too.

>>10390569
When playing the game I just find my self sitting there for hours trying to get my wife to cheat on me, yet she never does.

Where is Raijin 6? I was looking around on dlsite at their other games but only saw Veronica 9, which I played too, and some other one.

>>10390584
I've seen screenshots of Rikaichan with a J-J dictionary. I don't know where to get it, though.

>>10390560
Honestly I'll take even that couple hours of angst. It's cruel how even though blood-related sisters are common nowadays eroge makers still fuck over incest fans by writing incest routes where it's like it's not even incest.

>Furifure 2
I was interested in this one but I read some comments on egs saying there wasn't much sense of immorality. I'll give it a shot.

>>10390589
>I just find my self sitting there for hours trying to get my wife to cheat on me, yet she never does.
That's weird, my wife keeps cheating on me. Maybe you turned off the NTR? It's on the setting screen. Even if I kill off the guy she's cheating with she just finds another guy. ;_;

>Where is Raijin 6?
It's 天制覇.

>Veronica 9, which I played too, and some other one.
Finished playing RPM mode of that, don't have the drive to play SLM mode anymore.
Managing the characters is too tedious, they keep fighting/stealing/destroying equipment.

>>10390618
>egs saying there wasn't much sense of immorality
Yeah, it's only really sort of at first.

>>10390622
> Even if I kill off the guy she's cheating with she just finds another guy. ;_;
This is hilarious. Is it possible to kill your wife?

>>10390633
Yes, you can also divorce her.

>>10390631
At least in the Lovers or whatever route anyway. I didn't do the other route as it doesn't really appeal to my tastes.

>>10390622
Nah my NTR is on. She would always cheat on me in the first game I played, but since then, never. I can do the thing where she gets raped but that's not really the same.

In Veronica 9 I kinda got stuck in the story, you get forced into a battle and my army simply wasn't up to snuff, so I can't do anything unless I want to reload way back.

I've been trying to find other good SLGs. I just want to take over countries and stuff. I downloaded Sangokushi 12, I'll try that out, but it isn't really a galge or anything.

>>10389077
My final thoughts were something like "pretty fun game if you don't read the last part of Nanaho's route (main girl)", the characters are all really good, it's just that the story gets a bit too silly.
At least I liked it a lot more than asuseka

>>10390652
>Veronica 9
You need to act like a pirate, just go on the open fields and ambush passing caravans. They net you 100k per transport if you're lucky.

Also go to the towns and pillage, the first time you pillage a town you'll capture a girl. You can sell their virginities for 50k-60k each. The girl you capture from Area7 is especially valuable, you can sell her to the police afterwards for 150k.

>I can do the thing where she gets raped but that's not really the same.
I never got that, how?

>>10390700
Well if there are dudes in that don't like you, (level 5) when you go to visit your wife there can be an event where they'll see you go in your house and see your hot wife. Then they rape her. There is also the one where the leader of your faction can rape her too. Not sure what all the conditions are though.

Also this is with the Powered Up Kit. Not sure if it's in the vanilla game, if that's what you're playing.

Anyone have any opinions on Hello, good-bye by Lump of Sugar? It sounds kind of interesting, but the reviews seem mixed.

>>10390067
>>10390076
Well fuck, not this again.

I don't think there's much hope in the story side of things either since it looks difficult to rescue the story from the crappy setup of the first game.

Help me for find walkthrough for 淫落の血族～禁断の呪縛～ please.

>>10391171
Is your google broken?
http://www5d.biglobe.ne.jp/~iaia/ih/gm/1/inraku.html

>>10391175
T-thank you.

>>10390940
Haven't finished it yet, but I get the impression that the disappointment comes from over expectations.
Mei's tachi-e also has that "brain problem" look.
Game uses an annoying kernel-mode DRM. Better run it on a VM if possible.

>>10391362
>Game uses an annoying kernel-mode DRM. Better run it on a VM if possible.
Are all lump of sugar games like that?
I'm thinking of playing いつか、届く、あの空に but guess I won't if it has an annoying DRM.

>>10391406
It doesn't, though you should play the ps2 version.

>>10391410
I don't have a PS2.

>>10391420
But any computer can emulate it.

>>10391430
Not if you don't have a videocard and is just using the onboard gpu.
I tried.

>>10391447
Who read this? http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=168581
And who is the yandere heroine?

Who read this? http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=168581
And who is the yandere heroine?

>>10391469
I guess Pam can be considered a yandere, though she is more like a kid who lack any moral restrain.
She is a bit like Ilya in FSN

And I like this eroge quite a bit, despite the small resolution it has some crazy production value with tons of CGs and the route of the main heroine is pretty great all the way through

>>10391469
this was on that page and you still couldn't guess?

>>10391410
Doesn't the PS2 have a lower resolution than the PC version would, though?

>>10391406
No, just Hello,Good-bye. The rest doesn't have any form of protection.

>>10384697
Did WLO justify its length at least? I'm curious.

>>10391678
Not him but I found it fairly enjoyable. Though I did question when the route would actually end after a while.

>>10388706
I started playing it through a previous thread too. I think the production values are decent for what it is.

>>10390551
Just there for unknown kanji and perhaps help getting context. It's /vg/ and most of /a/ that actually try reading the entire thing machine translated without bothering to learn anything.

>>10391769
Pretty disappointing year.

>>10391769
I'm not really sure why konosora is that high. Was this year really that bad when it came to releases? I enjoyed the game, but I really didn't think it was that great.

>>10391792
It was one of the better games in its genre this year. Both that and Hatsuyuki came off as above average stories but not top of the year material for me as well.

>>10391769
;_;

>>10391834
I enjoy that game, even if it went off topic.
I don't really understand why they need to put a pro-democracy propaganda in there.

>>10391776
>>10391792
You can't expect a WA2 or Baldr Sky every year. You'd just be in a world of disappointment then. I've learned to lower my expectations a long time ago and have been satisfied each time. Though I'm not sure why Rance Quest is higher than Owaru Sekai or Monobeno on that list.

>>10391859
guess we can't have a 2009 every year

>>10391853
Game is only enjoyable if you skip most of the moralistic bullshitt

>>10391859
I liked Rance Quest Magnum more than these 2, though they are hardly comparable.

>>10391853
>Pro-democracy
Sounds so not Japanese.

>>10391859
2012 still had JQV so it wasn't completely horrible

>>10391873
that reminds me, why didn't that make it into the list?

>>10391880
New company, got overshadowed by the big ones I think. That's my hypothesis about it.

>>10391880
JQV is only popular around here.

>>10391880
Because the Japanese despise it. I read some reviews they consider it pretty much as plagiarism of Romeo's work.

>>10391884
It's a doujinshi game, so of course it isn't

>>10391890
What? Do you even Egs?

Also it's too bad that Namima no Kuni no Faust wasn't more popular, it really was pretty good.
At least I'd put it in the top 5 of the year even if I have a few problems with it

>>10391890
Well it is.

>>10391469
This should be more famous.

Wouldn't call Pam a yandere, though.

>>10392038
It actually did get an anime I believe though.

It's just for some reason incredibly forgettable, I forgot it ever existed until I came by it on EGS.

I started Himawari after getting a guy upload the patched voice files and exe for me.
Nice so far, Aries and Asuka are good.

>>10391769
What really gets me is the number of votes. So sad.

>>10392130
Yes, but a horrible one that pratically didn't help divulgate.

And well, the last chapter has pretty much my favorite "chuuni" sequence, and the fandisc is
great.

how long is the rakuen trial?

I wonder how many people would vote if we did a /jp/ 2012 eroge ranking? It would be interesting to see how it differed from the Japanese one.

Then again it would probably end up with the same 5 people voting, www

>>10392346
I think it would be a nice idea if someone could set it up. Probably do two, one with new releases like the 2ch one and another one as an all-time favorite including English-translated I guess, just to see how that one fares too.

>>10392139
Can you share the link to the parched voice files? I'm interested in it too. Thanks.

>>10392393
*patched

>>10392393
Ah yeah,
http://www.mediafire.com/?9o76e93tshrod8w
http://www.mediafire.com/?jbcw49c6lkwd87t
http://www.mediafire.com/?y5i9540lk46zabz
http://www.mediafire.com/?29u7pbb6anus5xc

Just install himawari and dump these files into the folder, no updates or anything, since those files update it anyway, I think. It works.

>>10392346
>>10392390
Honestly, I don't foresee much of a difference between /jp/'s and 2ch's rankings. The community here is pretty much in tune with what the Japs like when it comes to eroge. Now, if we have to compare, I dunno, /a/'s or /vg/'s then we'd see a difference.

>>10392405
The ranking for 2012 would probably be pretty different actually.

It's not like you would be able to tell who is just voting after looking the cg and who actually played the game

>>10392417
>after looking the cg
why
do
people
do
that
?

>>10392405
There should be some degree of a difference in actual rankings, I don't see the eroges making it into the top list differing by all that much though, since there's only so many good eroges in a year.

>>10392390
I somehow feel that if /vg/ catches the wind of an all time favorite list including English translated ones the results are going to be horribly skewed.

>>10392421
Well Hatsuyuki shouldn't be first at least

>>10392423
I'd personally put Dracu-Riot or Grisaia up there as first, but that's just me.

About the ranking, I thought irohikari would be higher, all things considered. Kind of weird.

>>10392429
That's because most of its popularity in egs come from stealth marketing, it wasn't popular in 2ch

>>10392402
Thank you Anon

>>10392429
Am I the only one who tends to find it difficult to get excited about FDs because of how long its been since you've played the original?

>>10392450
Take into account there's obviously no voice contriols, so voice keeps going till it clashes with a different voice file and you'll have to lower BGM/SE volumes.

>>10392429
well it's a fandisk, it means only people who played and liked the original a lot played it probably, that narrows down the player base a lot

>>10392455
I play them for nostalgia from the cast/buthurt my favourite girl didn't get a route.

>>10392402
you are now my favorite person in this thread

Why don't make mini-ranks for the last six years, on the case?

>>10392468
Do we do them the jap way with splits for art/music characters or just a top 3-5-10?

>>10392455
Yeah, I would be looking forward to the さくらさくら fandisk 4 years ago.

>>10392473
A few lines to explain your choices like they do in the 2ch ranking would be nice too

>>10392468
How about we don't because I really don't give a fuck about how you would rank your favorite eroge.

>>10392455
It depends on the fandiscs really. If it's just after stories, unless I really liked a specific heroine or the art a lot it'll be sort of low on my priority list. If it has new routes too then I care a bit more.

>>10392468
Sure.

>>10392488
I do care myself.
It's not like I will my opinion about anything but I like reading the impressions of other people about the stuffs I enjoy

>>10392473
A top 10, isn't like there's much people anyway.
I mean, maybe 2009-2011 is predictable, but would be interesting to see /jp/ favorites before.

you can look at vndb averages for the year or something if you really want to see what's been well recieved, I see little point in making a ranking between all 20 of us so you can say one particular game was liked by more than 5 people (!!!)

>>10392421
>English translated ones the results are going to be horribly skewed
That is exactly the reason why I wanted it separate though, to see actually how skewed the general taste of people reading VNs is.

How would you know if the person voting actually knows Japanese? Some kind of a "translate this sentence" test?

>>10392473
I really like the 2ch way of splitting points because I feel the West is horribly biased towards story-centric scores, so for example games with good characters but weak writing are usually forgotten.

>>10392528
No need to be so paranoid

>>10392528
In which language? I'm not particularly confident in my jap->english skills.

>>10392528
>>10392536
Just have the original Japanese titles listed, it's not like anyone who legitimately played them will have problems with the voting form

>>10392519
VNDB is hardly a good indication of what people like, considering only a small part of the population actually knows some reading capable level of Japanese. The others either only read in English or use trashy machine translations.

>>10392523
It would be skewed because their choices are limited to what is translated, not necessarily because of what types of game they like. Really, the situation as far as English games go is the opposite, as there's a relative lack of moege in comparison to "serious" stories. Of course, in turn, this limitation brought about a ridiculously skewed view of the entire medium.

>>10392528
A kanji captcha.
But, really, this >>10392541

This is so fucking obnoxious, how do you guys always manage to turn a thread with such a simple topic into shit. This time it's rankings and list-wars because aping 2ch with a thread population of 10 people makes so much sense.
What this guy said: >>10392519

>>10392556
>only a small part of the population actually knows some reading capable level of Japanese. The others either only read in English or use trashy machine translations.
so, just like here

>>10392564
There's more people on these threads than you think.

>>10392570
Are you the "So I'm wasting my time learning Japanese"-dude? Man, go to bed.

>>10392618
I'm just saying that probably a good portion of the people here vote on games on vndb and that serves as any popularity/reception meter you could ever need. If you're going to complain about "fake" votes on untranslated games like that guy was saying because of retards, chances are they're going to be in this shit just the same.
It's basically just a "we're totally like 2ch guys" thing

Well someone do it and let see what happen.
Could be interesting or it could crash and burn, who know.

>>10392661
Eh people here do? I always thought most people here just used vndb as a convenient way to look up things...

I haven't played enough games this year to feel comfortable voting in it. Been mostly whittling away at my backlog.

>>10392679
I always vote when I finish something. Gives me a chance to reflect on what I just read.

>>10392679
I vote there in order to supplement my shitty memory of what I've read.

>>10392679
I mostly use VNDB for voting and keeping track of my games since EGS randomly un/bans my IP and the proxies I use. Too arsed to always log in.
And I think EGS is better for looking up games since they actually list the writers and VAs.

>>10392700
>And I think EGS is better for looking up games since they actually list the writers and VAs.
Seriously, if VNDB had that I wouldn't even bother with EGS.

>>10392705
Too bad they're busy adding useless features.

>>10392708
How is characters and tags for said characters which also spoiler shit an useless feature?

Does it really matter if you use EGS or VNDB?

>>10392713
Not like anything is ever tagged correctly!

>>10392747
No, for me VNDB is just more convenient for quickly looking up VNs since EGS blocks me, and EGS is more useful for seeing the writers/artists/VAs, reading impressions, and sometimes looking up tags that they have but VNDB doesn't.

>>10392713
how many times did you find yourself looking for some game from the character tags? Knowing that a character is slim or a sister to someone sure is useful, and most portraits are just straight ripped off from easily accessible sources like getchu or official sites

>>10392769
Not him, but I find myself using it surprisingly a lot to find games that I'd want to play, usually by looking up clothing, physical traits, or personalities that I like on a girl. Also something I noticed is that a ton of the characters are from old games or ones I've never heard of, and I've picked up a large amount of games that I otherwise never would have. That being said, compared to a feature like listing authors and artists, it's stupid. I honestly don't know why they don't list those. Maybe they're afraid that people are too lazy to take 5 minutes to head over to getchu or EGS to get the info.

>>10390379
Couldn't agree more.

Although, this does make me wonder how they're going to deal with this once Sona-Nyl's PSP port comes out.

VNDB is so silly at times. The worst of it is probably idiots like this, who rate everything at 10 and randomly try to remove all tags. Why? Honestly, is there a point?

http://vndb.org/u37918

>>10392811
Censoring most of them is really easy, half of them aren't even sex scenes, the most sexual one is probably Lechat's since Mao's ends how it does, Ginger's is just plain weird and Milia's is mostly just to show her feelings so you don't really need to show the act.
Lily's is a great loss though, it doens't even show anything you'd have to censor and the writing is great. She has my favourite scene in the series followed by Emilie and Ruaha.

>>10392824
Yeah, I noticed back when I used to actually contribute that the userbase was pretty terrible.
Sometimes when I see someone rated a VN or two that I liked highly I like to look at their other votes for recommendations since our tastes seem to line up. It kinda defeats the purpose of voting at all if you rate everything a 10.

>>10392824
Stalker.

>>10392855
epic re/a/ction image bro saved to my desktop

>>10392824
Chii's Adventure! must be some kind of a hidden gem.

>>10392854
Yeah, it's kinda sad but I do like you do, I ignore the trolls and look out for people who's votes make sense.

>>10392881
Sory about ur autism kid

are there any VNs where a heroine lives with the protagonist that is entirely dependant on him?

How do I rate VNs in VNDB as x.5, x.4, x.3, this kind of rating? I've seen people doing it but I'm finding it almost impossible ;_;

>>10392928
Choose the "other" option

>>10392928
On the drop down menu for voting at the bottom there is "Other" and you click that, then you can type it in.

>>10392928
Reserved for Eroge Experts like Moogy-heika-dono-sama.
I have no idea either.

>>10392824
Everything written is Japanese is a masterpiece. He wanted to rate some 11/10 or 12/10 but vndb wouldn't let him.

>>10392954
But that thing rated fate/stay night 10/10!

>>10392824
My autism is making me want to retag everything.

What are the odds that that guy has even read anything he's voted on? He doesn't understand the concept of tagging (look, he's minus tagged nearly all otoge/BL titles, minus tagging = bawww I don't like this!), who's to say it isn't the same for voting?

She's voiced by Yukarin? Man, I'm gonna love her a lot.

>>10392972
>he's minus tagged nearly all otoge/BL titles
What the hell. What I don't get is he correctly edited some VNs to include the length which doesn't fit with him. Anyway this is making me feel like a stalker so I'm going to forget about it now.

>>10392972
I wonder if people who rated like 700+ eroge really did read that much

>>10393008
I saw a guy who rated over a 1000 eroge. And then in his discussion page he was replying to an old topic that he made telling himself congratulations etc. I guess that's what happens when you read that much.

>>10393008
That would be amazing. I have to spend around one-two weeks for most VN.

When will another eroge guru like Asceai-sama grace us with his presence?

>>10393008
it could be true if they've been reading for years
then again you also have the guys who vote three games a day every day and there's just no way they read all the shit they add

>>10393008
Easily possible. Most 'average' VNs are short. The last one I finished (aete, on recommendation) was less than 20 (even 15) hours.

I guess it's easier for people who read a lot of nukige

It nowadays takes me like a month to finish the average eroge because my job demands more and more of my time every year. I really wish I could finish eroges every two weeks or so...

>>10393071
In my case I began to lose interest in eroge gradually. I think I only finished like 6 or 7 games in 2012.

>>10393033
Most of the time yes, but I know when I rate one game I usually try to rate 3-4 previous games off my list. Someday maybe my rating backlog will be gone.
A lot of work goes into that number! I'm easy to please so if I just went with 10/10, I really liked it, I liked it, etc everything would be 7-8+.

>>10393096
are you this guy
>>10392824

I've given a vote in every whole number except for a 1 vote, because I really force myself to think before trying to qualify it as the worst visual novel ever created. I never use decimals since I force myself to round anyways.
I haven't played OELVNs much though so maybe I could find the shittiest shit there. I've read bad and really bad stuff, but I've yet to encounter the king of the shits.

>>10393138
Can I see your list?

>>10393138
I'd guess that most people who use decimal scores go by the thinking: It would have been an 8 if that route/character wasn't so terrible...
Thus -.5 or whatever. I don't really see a point in being that specific unless you are using a check list or something.

>>10393157
Decimal scores are handy when you rate a lot of stuff

>>10393157
The last time I had to rate various things, what I did was I just made an ordered list of everything from best to worst and fit it to a bell curve. If more people did that, using decimals would make sense.

>>10393157
For me it's for differentiating games that would otherwise be the same number. So even if both are a 7 I might thing "hmm I liked A a little more than B, but not enough to put it up there with my other 8 stuff". So I'd rate A 7.1(or .2, .3, etc. depending on how much more I enjoyed it) to put it a little higher than B. If you only rate a small amount of VNs it's not really necessary.

>>10393146
N-no, it's shameful to post it in an imageboard like this since it's linked to a pseudonym I use in many places, and I like anonymity here.

>>10393157
Maybe I could adjust my votes to a .5 scale seeing as some 6's are not equal 6's, so I see your point. Anything like .9, .3 or .25 is going overboard though, like moogy's votes. Captcha related.

>>10393168
When you do in depth reviews on different categories maybe. A .x rating implies that you are using some sort of detailed system. .5 is far more than enough to say it's above a '7' but less than '8'.

Like >>10393172

>>10393187
Come on just make pic for your favorite VN anon!

http://vndb.org/v94
>Kimi ga Nozomu Eien
>Yandere Heroine 2.8
R-realy?

>>10393248
You might want to spoil that you know, that tag doesn't even show up unless your choose to show major spoilers. Not that it comes as that much of a surprise to me.

>>10393183
I've rated plenty. It's more that unless you are going to sit down and analyze every reason of why you feel that it is .1 better and in what ways I think you are playing a numbers game that I'm avoiding. Especially when I take into account that I am not likely to remember every single detail, complaint, or impression that I had after finishing years later. Half a point can make sense for sure because you run into things that you consider barely an 8 or a strong 8.
There are people who have category point systems and aggressively take notes for their ratings where it does make sense.

>>10393248
Isn't there supposed to be netorare in that game?

>>10393272
Forgot to mention, on 100pts I do X0,X5s. I'm just more curious on how people quantify a 73 game from a 72 game.

>>10393272
>unless you are going to sit down and analyze every reason of why you feel that it is .1 better
In my case, it's not so much that it's exactly .1 or .2 points better. Like I said it's just to rank them more accurately. It's all relative to your other ratings.
If I only had two VNs rated as a 7 then yeah I'd give it a 7.5 instead of a 7.1. But since I have like ten or more games at a each number, then I have to think "Well, I do like this game more than this one which I rated a 7. Let's put it at 7.1. Wait, but I liked it more than this 7.1 one. Let's put it at 7.5. Actually I didn't enjoy it on the same level as this one. Let's put it at 7.4." etc. etc., until I find a fitting place. It's not like I have some intricate system to decide between .1 or .2, personally.
Also I rate games right after I finish them so they're fresh in my mind. I mean, I pretty much do this rating thing for fun. It's not like I'm sharing it with other people.

>>10393248
Someone read this VN? Who is the yandere heroine?

>>10393359
Green haired with glasses

>>10393367
Thank you anon i love you.

>>10393022

>>10393283
Is this true? Dammit, I was planning on reading it.

Sometimes I think my rating system is a little inaccurate. I'd give a title which would otherwise deserve to be a full 10/10 something in the 70s/80s due to it having some off model CGs or repetitive BGMs. Or give a title I'd technically call one of my absolute favourites something in the 80s.

>>10393446
>Or give a title I'd technically call one of my absolute favourites something in the 80s.
Me too, I don't even have a single 100 title. Even though I have "favorites" I still haven't felt like I've came across a VN that I'd rate that score, I think I'm a bit too harsh. Maybe because I rate on the scale that 5/50 is average where a lot of people seem to rate on the scale of 7/70 is average.

>>10393446
Nah, that's pretty much what happens if there is no system. People just roll with whatever they want. You probably have attached value to each part individually rather than just going off how much you enjoyed it as a whole.
The number is mostly for yourself anyway. If you are sharing it as long as you are consistent it doesn't really matter. If it bugs you a lot I guess you should jot down one word strengths and weaknesses.

>>10393462
>>10393446
I use the 7/70 average in both vndb and egs because other people do the same.
I don't want to seem like I'm downvoting a game I actually really like

>>10393431

>>10393462
I rate on a 5 averae, buut the only games I give a lower score are those I dropped. After that it's all subjective based on what I enjoyed and 0.5 benchmarks.

Just read Phenomeno, it was short but absolutely awesome. Great atmosphere and sound.

I know there's a second case online, but am just wondering if this is an ongoing series. Last part for the second case was posted online in April last year over here:
http://sai-zen-sen.jp/fictions/phenomeno/

>>10393578
Wikipedia is kind of unclear on whether he's going to write anymore books. Since they're calling a "series," my guess is yes. And since it's an actual novel, the next book might take a while.

Finished Bunny Black2. The gameplay changes seemed designed to make it more of a chore and I don't think the premise was solid enough to warrant a sequel.

Gameplay: Micromanaging level ups for all units. Adding 200 points of energy manually for everyone didn't seem like good use of time. Removal of teleportation magic and the skill that marked points of interest on the mini map as well as adding random encounters made exploring vast dungeons more frustrating than it had to be. They did remove the inventory cap though.

Overall I did enjoy it a lot less than the first one.

>>10392402
>The file you attempted to download is an archive that is part of a set of archives.

Can you reupload parts 2 and 3 on rapdishare or something?

>>10392986
At least you'd feel sorry for her, a lot.

Have locations on eroge that have been inspired by real sites in Japan been outlined somewhere? For example, the places in Majikoi.

>>10390369
Anyone?
Also, if you have a better way to download it I'll appreciate it.
Torrents at nyaa is somehow dead.

She doesn't have a route... Does she?

>>10394503
She's at least,screwable, if that's what you want.

>>10394526
Pure love only, if I want to fap I will go read some h-manga or doujinshi. The thrill of doing a heroine's route is to feel emotions, not to screw them.

>>10394526
How would that work though? Omake scenario?

can you guys suggest me some vns which have a cool or real man MC? im pretty bored with classic guys and i dont really care about vn's type be moege or action doesnt really matter.Also it'd be great if its a 2011 or 2012 game.

>>10394550
grisaia

>>10394537
>>10394545
Subheroine routes should also counted into pure love, even though the depth is lower than the main routes.

>>10394553
yes im searching a mc like this,but i already read grisaia.Thank you anyway.

>>10394503
Consdering Serizawa and Ureshino have one, she SHOULD have one.
http://youtu.be/0A1pXNsz1pE

>>10394545
Could also be one of those heroines you fuck on the way

>>10394612
But that would be terrible. At least in a pure love game.

Patiently waiting for Guilty Crown: Lost Xmas and Mahoyo. I kind of lost interest in VNs recently but I'm hoping these can bring me back around.

>>10394623
I wonder what would happen if August slipped a unavoidable NTR scene 80% into every route. Game of the year?

how exactly is he so cute?

>>10394640
They die faster than ELF did.

>>10394719
I can't decide if I love it or hate it when a game has a likeable male side character, because then it just makes me want a homo route.
I liked what KxKxK's fandisc did.

>>10394640
NTR図書館

Is there some sort of alternative for NTLEA for Windows 7 64 bit..? Not exactly VN related but Tinkerbell refuses to work without changing the system language.

>>10394751
Virtual machines.

>>10394751
Vistalizator, I think it was called.
Granted, it actually changes your system language so you'll need to restart everytime you want to change it.

>>10394628
Why are you waiting for them? Are they getting translated or something?

>>10394640
August would burn down in 30 minutes after people caught wind of it. Surprise NTR is not something people can deal with.

>>10394777
It is getting a translation from a chinese translation.

>>10394820
Oh. Sounds like a poor plan.

>>10394820
That doesn't sound like it's going to turn out well.

>>10394820
Mahoyo or Lost Christmas? I thought Commie was translating Mahoyo.

New thread: >>10394906

A new thread already? that's kind of surprising

>>10394719

He just is.