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Indifferent.

That is why I treat everyone with respect and understanding.

>>10263311
Sakuya is a known serial killer so that's so like her!

Extremely disturbing. There is no sex in this 2hu doujin.

I have a sudden craving for tea.

ニヤニヤ

What?

>>10263311
Is she the Robotic-leg Sakuya?

>>10263359

Dude, that's a really common expression. Do you even Japanese?

>>10263311
translate it weebs

>>10263443

Can't figure out the first kanji, but the second means "the pleasure of cumming inside".

>>10263443
"What the hell are you grinning about?"
"Oh nothing, just thought of a little dream I had."

>>10263636

You are the reason why these people will never stop begging for a translation.

>>10263690
You're sad little goon.

>>10263840
And this is my little burrow. I'm so sad that I have abandoned almost everything else, so I'm fond of this place.

fucker draws the weirdiest things

>>10263690
Thank you for your consideration.

>>10263862
All in all, I'm surprised Remilia took the rejection so well after reading that.

I like this artist style.

>>10263862
Imagine the level of... loyalty?, obsession?, madness? needed to cut your own leg because someone else wants to eat it.

Admirable, and insane at the same time.

>>10263891
Honestly, I'd say it's much less of a commitment than what Remilia really wanted.

>>10263900
I suppose you say that thinking about how Sakuya decided to serve Remilia for long as she lives as a human. If not, explain further please.

And I don't know, she decided to devote the rest of her life to serve Remilia, and in that doujin she even gave up a part of herself for her master's sake.

Hardcore display of commitment I'd say.

>>10264001
What Remilia wanted was more than that. She wished for Sakuya to "always" be by her side.

However Sakuya intended to die as a human, in doing so rejecting Remilia.

Serving somebody for the rest of your life is more of a commitment than simply giving up a limb.

However even above that, there is still the absolute commitment of serving forever which Sakuya refused. Not directly, but it was refused nonetheless.

You're not thinking of this from the right point of view. In a human's mind, it's pretty hardcore like you say.

However in the eyes of somebody who will not die simply with the passing of time, Sakuya's choices would be an utter rejection. The leg which she gave up without reluctance, a simple condolence.

I think the way Remilia's mouth is drawn in the first 2 panels is cute.

>>10263877
Me too. It really reminds me of dowman sayman's work. But I can't tell whether or not it's him.

>>10264051
True.

I can't deny that she privileged her humanity over Remilia. But, could you affirm her choice was that of "utter rejection"?, I think she is even more than willing to die for her.

But, I think I'll be discrediting myself having said that last part, because death can be either the erasing of the self, but also the "possible release from the confines of the self", thus if Sakuya became immortal she wouldn't be able to achieve said liberation. So, tl;dr I just realized she wanted to remain human so she could die.

The proposal of living forever is scary!. Anyways, I won't allow her loyalty to be questioned.


Well,
Good night for now, wise anon.

That cupcake looks delicious.

>>10264088
Since it's very clear the afterlife does exist in Gensokyo, dying definitely isn't a final thing.

Dying for Remilia, I'd say Sakuya would be completely willing to do that, however dying in itself would be rejection towards somebody who lives forever.

To die for somebody and to live for somebody forever are two entirely separate things.

Sakuya's choice to live and die as a human in itself wasn't a rejection, however, for the situation it may as well have been one, even if Sakuya had made that choice far before she had ever known Remilia, that choice in itself is a rejection to those who live and will forever live.

If we consider Sakuya's loyalties as serving Remilia over herself and others, that one choice is the one way in which she does a disservice to her mistress.

Sakuya may have never meant to reject Remilia, but regarding Remilia's thoughts, what else would she feel?

That SDM doujin this artist did reminds me of that one SakuRin short story by Ogami Kazuki where Rinnosuke asks Sakuya if she would ever want to be a vampire. And in the end, she'd rather be human and die a natural age than live long enough to lose her feelings for Rinnosuke.

http://danbooru.donmai.us/pool/show/3181

Sakuya's refusal to take any measures to live beyond her natural years always kind of stuck out oddly to me. She serves her to such ridiculous degrees of loyalty it's hard to believe she'd shirk the thought of continuing it. It would help quite a bit if we even knew what brought her into Remilia's service in the first place of course...

Though I suppose you could consider the thought that it's a similar situation as >>10264287 's example includes. She doesn't want to live forever because maybe she's afraid she would come to dislike or even resent her servitude?

Oh, and then you throw in all the little hints and nudges at the idea that Sakuya is in fact much much older than she appears and lets on. That just throws a monkey wrench right into the theory machine.

I always thought that because Sakuya manipulated time, becoming immortal with Mokou would disable her from that power, as the Elixir removes the very concept of time form the user. In addition, Sakuya probably is immortal already, as it is hinted that she is hundreds of years old, and the fact that she survived her duel with Reimu in EoSD. Remillia explictly states that Sakuya is killed before the main fight starts by calling Reimu a murderer.

Surprised. I honestly thought this was some DA level shit because of the weird transformation/vore fetish, then I saw the japanese text.

>>10264372

>Remillia explictly states that Sakuya is killed before the main fight starts by calling Reimu a murderer.

Can we please not drag this discussion up again?

Wherever ZUN was going with this line, whether it was just Remilia being silly, or just some idea he had before he thought up the proper Spellcard rule about being non-lethal, it doesn't matter anymore. It's never referenced or implied or inferred or anything in ANY other material.

>>10264404

Calling this transformation/vore fetish is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

It's just some black humor.

>>10264329
>Sakuya's refusal to take any measures to live beyond her natural years

[citation needed]

I think I know what you'll cite and it does not actually say what you seem to think it does.

>>10264372
>Of course, you're all smart players, and you won't take everything they say literally...

>>10263311
Great faces. Especially on Sakuya.

>>10263311
It's a funny comic and I like the artstyle.

>>10264524

Alright perhaps "refusal" was a strong way to put it. Regardless, it's been heavily made a point of her character that she is human, and she seems to have no intention of changing that anytime soon.

Of course this would be a lot easier to figure out if we ever got any significant insight into how anyone actually thinks in Touhou, but god forbid.

>>10264127
Rejected indeed.

>>10265081
>it's been heavily made a point of her character that she is human
There has been no such thing. In fact, it's pretty heavily insinuated that she may not be living a natural lifespan.

Hell, in the very first line of text describing her it pretty deliberately ambiguates about her true nature.
>Plays the role of a human maid about 10~20 years old.

Here's a few more:
>This suggests that she might not be a human from Gensokyo, but rather one from... a completely different world.

>Also there are many theories such as ones suggesting she is actually a Homunculus, a zombie...

And the most blatant one:

>She claims to be in her late teens, but this is unlikely judging by her refined manner and the level of her abilities. Rather, she seems to be a human who has been living for hundreds of years (*7).

I'd say that it's pretty conclusive she's no standard human.

>>10265161
It feels more like a cheap way to correct a plothole.

sakuya should just become youkai

>>10265177
Why? It's not like ZUN cares about her. EoSD cast will just be spectating in the new game anyway.

>>10265182
her time manipulation ability plus youkai streght would maker her the ruler in gensokyo

>>10265190
But she's Remilia's lapdog. Besides if Sakuya tries that, she'll be raped by Yukari.

Wow that's so rude!! ;_;

>>10264404
You don't recognise the artstyle? Shame on you!

>>10265177
it's pad

>>10264404
It's made by a Japanese, it can only be good, silly anon.

>>10264537

His faces are always the best.

>>10265161
Eirin is also surprised to see Sakuya in IM. It may not be an implication that Sakuya is hundreds of years old, but it could be a clue. Lunarians are rather long lived and we know of one other that can screw with time.

This is the dumbest conversation I've seen in a while.

dem crecent moon laugh

Zounose is the best Touhou artist

Also Hungry Tiger is his circle's best work

>>10267154
There's a lot of evidence towards Sakuya being very old, but you don't have to jump to Lunarian for that. Her ability is time manipulation, for crying out loud. Her ability keeping her young is far easier a guess than anything else. Second would be Remilia or perhaps Patchouli's doing, but even that's stretching boundaries.

Also, she can still be human yet have a very long lifespan, especially if it's related to her abilities. This is a dumb discussion though. Sakuya's lifespan and hurr Lunarian speculation are annoyingly futile to talk about.

One thing that's really irking me now that I think about this it, if Sakuya has in fact been using her ability to keep herself alive for so long, why did the subject of her mortality ever become such a huge thing in the first place?

As far as I've been able to find In canon the subject only seemed to have really cropped up in IN. Anything else at most talked about her seeming to be older than she lets on. In fanon though, jesus christ. It's gotten to the point that people seem to be getting actively tired of the played-out schtick.

>>10267756
I enjoy the way he draws backgrounds

>>10267756

>Zounose is the best Touhou artist

Get a load of this underaged secondary. Next you're gonna tell me you like Skyrim and listen to Linkin Park

>>10267154
>>10267154
are you implying sakuya is a lunarian ?

>>10268169

Well there's definitely some kind of connection between Eirin and Sakuya. What the hell that may be is left up in the air and will likely never be expanded upon or even mentioned again.

Sakuya is a good Chrstian woman and does no want to to engage in homosexual activities with an abomination of life forever.

It's pretty simple really.

>>10268149
I don't listen to Linkin Park but I don't see what's so bad about Skyrim.

>>10268207
Witches are apparently OK though.

>>10264001
Its a ripoff from Five Star Stories. Or I suppose you could say a "homage".
When AKD Mirage Knight No. 14 Shari Landers falls in love with the regent of the planet of Juno and wants to resign to marry, in violation of the law that the Mirage Knights serve until death she cuts off her own right arm, her sword arm, in front of the Emperor Amaterasu. He then takes the arm and lets her go because now he "will have her sword forever".

>>10265161
How long she lives is just dependent on how much of her day she spends in stopped time.

>>10269384
Incidentally the Five Star Stories tanks just got reissued this past year in Japan in prep for the author finally getting finished with Gothicmade and going back to writing FSS which has been on hiatus for several years. The author of that dojin probably had just read the reissue, and thought that it would go unnoticed as most of the Touhou fanbase was either not alive or too young to read FSS when it was at its peak from 1986 to 1995.

>>10269415

Great translation work. 10/10.

>>10269415
Too many artifacts. Clean that shit.

>>10269415
Danbooru has a better translation.

>>10269448

that seems unlikely

>>10269486
It's much, much better.
Sorry for hurting your feelings.

One major bug introduced in patch 1.5 caused the M8 to inflict Engine Damage on Pumas with every hit. Worse still, the effect would stack, and thus a Puma could eventually be rendered completely (and permanently) immobile.

-Not broken, just overpowered

>>10270344
There are /vg/ people in our midst

>>10265081
All I'm saying is, in Sakuya's case, refusing to become non-human (which is actually a really specific refusal to become an immortal) does not imply "refusal to take measures to live more than her natural years". Especially since, having control over time, she has means to prolong her life without ceasing to be human, and, as you yourself noted, it's been hinted that she had already exercised that possibility.