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I've been lately been more and more into China instead of Japan. It all started after I read of Touhou lore, and noticed how many references to Touhou has to real Japanese mythology, and then when I read about Japanese mythology I noticed that most of their stuff comes from China. Then I took even closer look to that, and the amount of Chinese culture embedded in Japanese culture is really baffling. Toori in shinto temples originates from China, for instance. The moon rabbit, "drinking the moon" and even sakura watching has origins in China (although in China they watch plum blossoms).

Here's the real bomb: Japanese art is heavily influenced by Chinese 工笔 (pic related) art style, and techniques from that style are used in drawing manga! Finally the amount of loanwords from chinese is surreal. As a result, I'm nowadays almost as much of a zhongboo as weeaboo.

Any other zhongboos around? Any intresting similarities to share?

>> No.10056437

Fuck off.

>> No.10056440

THE HOAX OF NANKING

>> No.10056444

Sweet thing OP. Guess you are quite cowboy huh?

>> No.10056453

Thankfully Japan was able to take China's pig culture and refine it into something good.

>> No.10056484

Indeed, china is awesome.

>> No.10056487

China has a lot of cool history, but it just doesn't produce enough cute Touhous to warrant significant interest.

>> No.10056499

My great motherland... ;_;

>> No.10056512

>>10056437
>>10056440
Unlike the average holocaust thread, this one is actually interesting. I bet most could even learn something from this.

>> No.10056613
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>>10056512
How about we discuss the fake scandal of Korean "comfort women" instead? /jp/ loves hating Korea more than it does China, and we get to reference an writer Shii likes.

>> No.10056618

>>10056613
Fuck off. This is China, not Korea. Are you retarded?

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>>10056613

>> No.10056625
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>>10056618
>/jp/- China/General

>> No.10056678

>>10056613
>the fake scandal of Korean "comfort women" instead?
Why are all kinds of nutjobs always so attracted to controversial and evil things? You aren't even going to benefit from it since you're not a political entity. Misery loves company, eh?

>> No.10056693

>>10056613
Since when was Shii one of the netouyo?

>> No.10056708

Just like the Romans took Greek culture and made it better, the Japanese took Chinese culture and improved it. Such things happen everywhere.

>> No.10056714

>>10056678
And your unwavering faith in words you read from books written by men as capable of erring as yourself benefits those who decide what is written in said books.

>> No.10056730

OP here, I gather nobody is intrested or knows of similarities?

Here's a few loanwords I've noticed from anime anyways, to get some discussion going:
ai = 爱 = ai
kawaii = 可爱 = keai
toshokan = 图书馆 = tushuguan
tenshi = 天使 = tianshi
cha = 茶 = cha

>> No.10056738

wo shi ge zhong guo ren~
ru guo ni men bu dong zei xie zi ni men shi hen zhang de bai ren~

>> No.10056745

>>10056730

No shit. You should write a dissertation about it. You will shake the scintific world in its foundation.

Maybe next time you'll discover that the English language has a lot of French loanwords.

>> No.10056748

>>10056738
Chinese pronunciation is so ugly

>> No.10056751

So is this a thread about Chinese mythology? Or about China in general?

>> No.10056759

>>10056714
Look at how trigger happy you are. Since you lit up, could you explain why these "alternative" views are always brought up in such a low-brow manner? Why are they made so easy to digest? They never dive deep into numbers and they never present long-winded logical chains. Instead, they often seem to tap into certain existing stereotypes and focus on playing with emotions. In other words, why do they have to be so god damn unscientific?

>> No.10056761

>>10056751
It might have been either, but it's a retarded /pol/ shitfest now.

>> No.10056765

>>10056751
This thread shouldn't be here. That's what. You oaf.

>> No.10056769

>>10056765
I don't see why the discussion of Chinese origins of Japanese mythology shouldn't be allowed in /jp/.

>> No.10056771

>>10056751
ITT Chinese things in Japanese culture because of intresting subject.

>>10056748
nah, beautiful language.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvB0ttVPyl0

>> No.10056772

>>10056761
Mentally ill /pol/ cretins just love to spam their shit.

>> No.10056775

>>10056769

Maybe because neither Chinese nor Japanese mythology are /jp/ related.

>> No.10056783

>>10056775
No more Touhou discussions?

>> No.10056793

>>10056783

Touhou threads are about Touhou.

>> No.10056798

>>10056769
You'll see soon.

>> No.10056800

>>10056793
Seiga, Yoshika, and Meiling are Chinese dork and OP mentioned touhou

>> No.10056803

>>10056775
Now it is, my dearest turbonerd.

I bless this thread with my aura.
It shall be remain protected from spontaneous 404.

Scholars, please continue your vigorous discussion while I take my leave.


Yours, Quality Poster.

>> No.10056814

>>10056775
But /jp/ discusses Japanese mythology all the time.

>> No.10056817

>>10056800
>OP mentioned touhou

The real sad thing is that you most likely honestly believe that this makes it /jp/ related.

>> No.10056824

>>10056814

It also discusses sucking dicks and being a little girl.

>> No.10056829

>>10056824
It also discusses Touhou and visual novels. Come up with something better.

>> No.10056838

>>10056803
Was the original post really that terrible? Is it wrong to be good?

"Oh no, this is MY shithole! This won't do! I'll look bad if this becomes the norm."
- u

>> No.10056837

>>10056829

Said by the guy who tooks certain dweeb shitposts as a standard for what is allowed on /jp/.

>> No.10056839

>>10056837
Whether or not the OP was shitty or not has nothing to do whether Japanese mythology threads are on tier with gloryhole threads.

You are literally shitposting right now, because you thought OP didn't start the thread off well, and therefore you insist on going out of your way to shit it up even more.

>> No.10056851

Wow what a fucking sagefest. I'll try this again some other time when babbys are at school.

>> No.10056854

>>10056839
>because you thought OP didn't start the thread off well

But that's wrong. It doesn't even matter if OP made the thread good or bad.

>> No.10056861

>>10056851
>sagefest
>babbys

Stop being so fucking new.

>> No.10056863

>>10056854
And why is that? Because "tryhard topics are annoying"?

>> No.10056873

>>10056851

are you lost, my little friend?did you miss your way to your home board?

>> No.10056867

>>10056851
>Wow what a fucking sagefest.
Welcome to /jp/. How's your first week going ?

>> No.10056875

>>10056854
Oh, you're simply shitting up the thread because you think Japanese mythology discussion should be banned from /jp/. Even worse.

>> No.10056886

>>10056863
>>10056875

Is "Otaku culture" really that hard to understand?

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10056902

Actually, her name is Hong Meiling, not China. I'll forgive your mistake now, but try to do better in the future.

>> No.10056903

>>10056886
Yes, for you. Otaku culture discussion is not restricted to a short list of topics that went up three months ago. Many otaku are interested in Japanese mythology. Pretty much every single Touhou fan has at least a passing interest in it. (And nobody outside of that does, so you don't need to worry about the mythology-fags from other boards coming to shit up your precious home.)

>> No.10056917

>>10056886
Great, a board police who polices the board for the joy of it.

>> No.10056911

This thread belongs in >>>/int/
Maybe >>>/trv/
Definitely not here.

>> No.10056927

>>10056917
Except when the banal spam starts. Maybe he participates in it.

>> No.10056935

China has a lot of really nice teas. Make sure to visit the teahouses when you visit, OP.

>> No.10056936

Literally everyone already knows that a lot of traditional Japanese culture was copied directly from China. Much like how everyone already knows that anime was inspired by western animation. Japan is full of copycats, this isn't really news.

>> No.10056942

>>10056903
>Many otaku are interested in Japanese mythology

Good fucking lord. When will you people understand that this isn't the criteria to canonise otaku themes? You do know that you could basically let in any kind of bullshit with that kind of argumentation, right?

>> No.10056966

>>10056917
But without people like him we might actually have threads other than the ten running generals and all the everyday inane Touhou threads.

>>10056942
It's also tangentially Touhou-related and has been discussed by /jp/ for years without anybody coming to shit on the discussion like you are now.

>> No.10056983

>>10056942
>You do know that you could basically let in any kind of bullshit with that kind of argumentation, right?
Does this thread look like any kind of bullshit?

>> No.10057009

This, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when "new regulars" don't bother to lurk, spam shit, get told and start taking things literally because they fail to see their own shortcomings.

>> No.10057005

>>10056983
I'm seeing a lot of bullshit here

>> No.10057013

>>10056966
>>10056983

And so the circle is complete.

>> No.10057032

>>10057009
It's like they envision some sort of mythological past /jp/ where all discussion fit neatly into categories, and nobody ever participated in "shitty and off-topic" discussions about "unrelated shit" like Cú Chulainn or kitsune tails.

>> No.10057030

>>10057013
What circle? Are familiar with the concept of established traditions?

>> No.10057062

>>10057030

So, a last time. It doesn't matter if such kind of threads pop up from time to time, it still doesn't make it /jp/ related. Hell, I don't even have a problem with it as long as it really just a periodic matter, just don't pretend it's an etablished practice on /jp/ because it's clearly not.

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>>10057032
There was a past like that. Back when this place was called Japan General, had a few good tripfags, elitism was rampant and captcha didn't exist. ageing for hell of it.

>> No.10057075

>>10057062
Ignoring the fact that you almost certainly have no fucking idea what is and isn't "established practice" in /jp/, this is the first thread of its kind in a long time, not "Japanese and Chinese Mythology General Thread #0."

>Hell, I don't even have a problem with it as long as it really just a periodic matter.
So what the fuck are you even complaining about, you colossal shitposter playing at board police?

>> No.10057080

>>10057062
Lurk more

>> No.10057123

>>10057075
>established practice
I think he means that you are supposed to repost your thread of choice feverishly on a daily basis until it at some magical threshold turns into "/jp/ Culture"

Like that spic spamming pictures of his cock until a month back.

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