/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Finnish is truly the language of the heavens

>>10036503
>9001. All Slavic languages (Russian/Polish/Serbian, etc.)
>over 900

My sides are orbiting the sun.

Brazilic really is a beautiful language, OP.

SRBIJA :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd-yAqhjvCU

A te kurva anyád.

>>10036536
YES
YES
YES

1. Hebrew
2. All other non-Roman languages except Greek.
3. Spanish.

900001. Greek.


/jp/ - int culture

>Romanian and Finnish are the best languages because they are the hardest to learn and some of the least useful! Look how 'obscure' and 'underground' I am!

>>10036584
>greek think greek best

nope, greek sounds bad as well.

nipponese is best

Finnish looks like someone sat on his keyboard

>>10036503
nice copy-pasta from /sp/ op

>>10039697
lel

>900. Portuguese
>901. French
>902. Spanish

Good good, but why is Italian ranked as a prettier language than Spanish by thousands of places?

>Cantonese
I like how it sounds better than mandarin

>German
Sounds angry but it can be cute

>Korean
It sounds better than south asian languages such as Thai or Taglog

>English
Prettiest language

>Japanese
Second prettiest

>>10039713
Spanish is pretty ugly, it shouldn't be anywhere near French.

älä kiusaa muita kieliä op

>>10039732
French? What a disgusting language. It sounds like they're all trying to gargle a wad of mucus or cum while speaking.

One of the Chinese ones sounds hella cute, but I don't remember which one. Silly, but cute as fuck.

German is good for music.

French is fucking awful for everything.

Russian and Japanese are the two prettiest languages.

Fuck my luck, I was born too late and didn't get to learn Russian because most of the schools here went from teaching Russian as a third language to German/French.

>3. German
Unerhört.

>>10039722
>English
>Prettiest language
That's not quite correct mon ami, english is 2nd.

English is the most expressive and advanced. Therefore, it is objectively the best and most beautiful. This is also the reason it is the language used for business and academics.

I'm not a big fan of Romanic languages, especially French sounds too flamboyant and nasal. Spanish is okay, Latin is great, though.

I like Swedish, Finnish, German and Russian. Dunno why everyone thinks German sounds angry. It's funny how the perception of the language changed over the centuries. Mark Twain complained that the language sounds too "soft". Dutch, however, is really cruel.

>>10036584
What's wrong with Hebrew?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvIVHgMRm9o

Koreans speak too fast.
Japanese is easy for my ears for dem similar aiueo.
English depends on the speaker.

>tfw I can write and read Latin

>>10039802
Japanese is a beautiful spoken language. I'd even say its number 1.

Quenya vs. Sindarin

GO

>>10039803

Is it actually useful for anything?

>>10039806
Quenya was dead ages before Sindarin, so it loses by default

Tal dansk for helvede!

>>10039786
>English is the most expressive

Nope. English is actually pretty bland and dull. I guess one reason why English speaker curse so much is because you can't express your emotions really well in that language. Other language have particles to express your attitude towards the said.

English might have a huge vocab, but let's face it - most of it is archaic, obscure or dead. I'm always amazed about how few words English speaker use when they talk. The static syntaxs makes it pretty uninteresting in terms of writing style too.

>>10039818
dunno, it's obbligatory in Italy. One thing is that after reading Cicerone and Seneca you write much better.

>>10039818
Being pretentious.

as a german i cant know how german sounds for foreigners who dont speak the language, but I wouldnt say its a ugly language. I guess it sounds very rough and hard to foreigners, but I think that most people who think about the german language just have some of hitlers speeches in their mind. Noone speaks like him now adays

>>10039846

I wouldn't say it sounds ugly, but it is definitely hard.

One thing that seems to be common though is natives not being able to speak any other languages properly for the rest of their lifes.
It's like their tongues got fucked up after years of making those weird noises. Similar to french in that sense.

>>10039837 I'm always amazed about how few words English speaker use when they talk.
Hope you aren't basing this on 4chan experience. Around half or more of the posters aren't even native English speakers.

>>10039786
I don't know, it's the easiest to learn, to me that's not "advanced". I like it though.

>>10039863
>it's the easiest to learn

Nope.

>>10039837
>Static syntax
Nope. You want static, look at languages like Nipponese. English can have nearly as much variation as anything without losing meaning. Now, we've come to a time of shorthand which is giving further variations, even.

Most everything in English has implication, which can be used to express more than what is written. In speaking, the same can be said, and it's much more complex than the way other languages blatantly state what is intended.

>>10039863
The easiest computer languages are also the most advanced.

>>10039869

What?
English is easy as fuck to learn compared to any other language, dude.

>>10039869
What's the easiest then. It was really easy to me, in fact i didn't even tried, i just started using it because of video games and internet forums. I can't do the same with japanese, for example.

>>10039885
>>10039887
Well, obviously, it's gonna be easy to learn if you're always exposed to it

>900001. Finnish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWZ3ev_FiAA
Finnish is lowest ranked on an ugliest language ranking... what?

>>10039887
Your native language is Romantic or Germanic. Japanese is only difficult because of Kanji. Spoken is very easy.

>>10039862

No, in real life.

>>10039846
>Noone speaks like him now adays

No one really ever has. He spoke a lovely variant of German called "Kasernendeutsch", which sole purpose is it to sound rough and commanding.

Spanish is ugly, french makes you sound like a fag.

>>10039907
It's just that most of spanish speaking countries are ugly and can't use it the way it's suppose to be used. Spain spanish is quite cute to me.

kiuj esperanto tie????

>>10039884
>You want static, look at languages like Nipponese

What the fuck are you saying. Japanese has a very elaborate case marking system, you can shift the segments around however the fuck you want without obscuring the meaning. An English sentence is mostly subject-verb-object and is not correct if you move one of these things out of place.

>>10039918

Spain spanish sounds the ugliest of them all.

I just hate how they pronounce Z.

>>10039884
You call your language expressive and it can't even convey a sentence of "I wonder if I should sit down for a while" with just one word.

>>10039884
Well, it's funny that the most simple is the most advanced then. But it makes sense i guess.

>>10039786

German is expressive. English is utilitarian.

>>10039918
Yeah Spains spanish is alright. But the south america variants are really bad...

>>10036503
ITT OP attempts to convince everybody that his shitty, obscure and utterly useless language is actually the best

I don't like the sound of English.

Japanese sounds too simple and artificial, I don't like it.
I prefer German and Italian.

>>10039949

There is not even a word for the state of "not being hungry". What a primitive, barbarian tounge it is.

>>10039980

Isn't "full" or "stuffed" enough for that?

>>10039948
Those Z on girls turns me on. It's lewd rather than cute.

>>10039918
Spain is ugly too though.

>>10039988

They can have other meanings.

>>10039992
Well, not as ugly as South america to me, i'm in Argetina now, and i've been in Spain. Not related though.

>>10039935
Everything in Japanese is known. Nothing is abstract, what is seen as abstract is known to be implied a very specific way. It is a declining language. English, on the other hand, continues to grow as the world adopts it.

>>10039949
"I wonder if I should sit down for a while" is a thought. We don't think that way. We think with objects. That is a poor example. The use of multiple words and phrasing in English allows infinite expression. There is a difference between "I wonder, should I sit down for a while?" "Should I sit down for a while?"[implied thought] "Should I sit down, I wonder, for a while?" etc etc

>>10039980
English is so advanced that hunger has many, many meanings. Are you referring to hunger for food? Hunger for blood? Hunger for sleep?

And these can be implied through context.

In Japanese this would be "Stomach empty" "Stomach full". It's much less expressive and specific.

>>10040013

A single word having multiple meaning is not a good thing.

I'm going to do mah French reps once my Japanese becomes decent enough.

Then I'll sail to Normandy with a tailored jacket and gifts for the locals.

>>10040023
And then hit on some foxy bambinas, amirite broseph?

>>10040028
Why not? I see only advantages for a fluent speaker.

>>10040013
>Everything in Japanese is known.

That's not what I was talking about, though. Also, it's completly wrong. Japanese, like all east asian languages, is really fuzzy. And I fail to see how that's a good thing.

>In Japanese this would be "Stomach empty"

That's just the common way to express it. There are other words for it.

>>10040033
No, I'll go hang out with old people and we'll shoot shotguns.

>>10040050
That sounds fun too.

>>10040013
>The use of multiple words and phrasing in English allows infinite expression
Doesn't change the fact that it's bloated.

>რაც გულისხმობს საქართველოს არ არის ყველაზე ლამაზი ენა

გასინჯვა ჩემი ძმა დიკ

>>10040085
>ajbobx3j r0do dds coo3
lknba4lklklk

>>10040049
English is a language fine-tuned by exposure and dominance of the world. We are influenced by every culture. It is the ultimate heterogeneous tongue. We can be fuzzy or clear or both and further all of it through context. It's much more advanced than nipspeak, or any other language.

We stand as supreme until another culture conquers us.

>>10040085
I like georgian

>>10040085
Shut up, sandmonkey

>>10040095

You're hopping from one point to another. Is it safe to assume that you're simply trolling?

>>10040085
so many hearts :3

>>10040095
lol wtf. ok it's an english board but damn

>>10040095
Why English is so superior to his brother, German?

Finnish is fucking awful. Looks like someone just rolled their fist around on their keyboard and added :DD every few words.

>>10040124
No

>>10040139

Eat shit mongol

>>10040139
why isn't your country rangebanned yet?

>>10039862
I'm sure most of us get English entertainment and such.

>>10040148
No
>>10040149
Because every time you think it is a finn trolling it is really a fat american with no job.

>>10040124
anteeks mitä helvettiä tuli just sanottua?hei älä ala jätkä mulle aukomaan päätäs kuule pistän sut pakettiin alta aikayksikön. Soitin jo mun otakupossen pesismailoineen paikalle joten ois parasta valmistautua turpasaunaan tai juoksuun ne mukiloi sut armotta saatanan jenkkiläsö.

>>10040102
I'm not trolling. There is a reason all great linguistic advances have been made by English speakers in recent years.

I'm not sure what your point is, you're saying that Japanese has a more advanced case system, which is only one aspect of a language and a very minor one. It's not terribly more advanced, either. I can say "I went to the store and bought cow milk" and can also say "Cow milk was bought at the store by me" in English. I can change the grammar, although not pretty, and in some context it may be useful to express something.

I don't see the use in a case marking system like that, anyway.

>>10040164
>Americans are the ones forcing the ``Americlap'' shit

>>10040168

Illya-chan isn't finnish.
Please stop degrading her.

>>10040139
>>10040164
>>10040168
Someone call the Finn Killsquad
I can't take it easy with this scum on /jp/

>>10040186
pls no bully

>>10040094
თქვენ რა მათე?

>>10040096
>>10040111
Georgian is ლლPrettiest Languageლლ
And Georgian likes you too.

>>10040097
საქართველო ევროპის!
მდებარ თქვენი, დედა თქვენ ხართ თურქეთის ნაბიჭვართან

>>10040168
Siisti kielioppi.

Finland is Sweden's colony.

>>10040185
She's slavshit, she can't be degraded any more.

I know you are all little weaboo. But.

Did you ever think that Japanese sounded aggressive? Not beautiful at all.

Be honest, please.

I don't like the thought of so many Europeans being on 4chan. I miss when it was just a stray Britfag here and there.

Can't you guys just... Go away? I'm sure by now you each have a chan in your own barbaric tongue.

>>10040205
I have to say, the Georgian alphabet looks awesome.

>>10040220
No

Finland strong against dark forces of cultural marxism
Sweden already conquered

>>10040175
>There is a reason all great linguistic advances have been made by English speakers in recent years

Like what? And how does it influence the way the man on the streets speaks?

>you're saying that Japanese has a more advanced case system, which is only one aspect of a language and a very minor one.

You picked that point out and argued against it. I didn't say it's a big point, but it ensures a more personal style of speaking. Everyone speaks the same way in English.

>I can say "I went to the store and bought cow milk" and can also say "Cow milk was bought at the store by me" in English

That's not the same sentence.

>ლლ
those look like Y U NO hands

>>10040213
It can sound many ways. Just like every language.Except German.

I'm australian with a native english tongue but I've always liked the way hungarian sounds.
Why did the turks want to ruin it's sonic beauty?

>>10040224
Pian.

>>10040217
>baaww leave me alove ;_;

Fuck off berlin gook.

Round here the Finlanders live around cold ponds in the forest.

Czech is the best language. It combines the perfect South German accent with the superior Slavic vocabulary. Plus it has neither language group's awful fixation on redundant phrases.

>>10040205
ვkawaii4me

>>10040217
There are so many now it's ridiculous.
And the fact that nationality comes up in so many unrelated threads bothers me.

It wasn't always like this, I miss when 4chan was mainly Americans with a few British and other anglos as well. And they would keep quite and blend in too.

>>10040186
He looks like a fucking hellspawn. Maybe race mixing is perilous.

>>10040234
What I'm saying is, someone with very deep understanding of English will have a very deep understanding of language itself. It is a very high level language.

>Everyone speaks the same way in English
Do you even know what niggers are?

>Not the same sentence
That's why English is so advanced.

>>10040262

Around here Finns don't live long at all before being skinned alive and hung up in the trees to keep other Finns away.

>>10040085
>>10040094
>>10040205
Did they comunicate or what?

Why does this thread have 100+ replies?

>>10040217
All the foreign mainstream chans seem to revolve around their own random boards with their minor boards remaining unused/stagnant 1-3 posts per day state. Plus the underground boards are either barren or 10 person circlejerks.

>>10040275
Inbreeding is actually a serious issue in Finland

I don't think Finnish is that great to listen to, OP. I agree that Hungarian and Italian are pretty nice, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40DXJxUWOJw
only good mongol thing

>>10040266
>What I'm saying is, someone with very deep understanding of English will have a very deep understanding of language itself. It is a very high level language.

And that's why every anglophone speaks at least 2 other languages, right.

>Do you even know what niggers are?

Is that really your standard?

>That's why English is so advanced.

That's why it's bland.

>>10040217
We've always been here. I blame /int/ for making it popular to constantly call attention to your nationality while shitting all over everyone.

Also, is there an image for "ignore X threads, don't reply to X posters" for Finns?

>>10040292
well fugg

>>10040292
wot

>>10040297
>And that's why every anglophone speaks at least 2 other languages, right.
One is enough for everything that we need. We take what is found to be inherently good from other languages and incorporate it into our own.

>Is that really your standard?
Ok then, compare one of Obama's speeches to one of David Cameron's. Then compare those to a speech by Churchill. Tell me they all sound the same, please.

>That's why it's bland.
I would call it objectively beautiful, as I did. To me, Japanese is bland. The only part I like are Kanji. They're cute but undeniably archaic.

English has such a polluted namespace.

>>10040329
>One is enough for everything that we need. We take what is found to be inherently good from other languages and incorporate it into our own.

One language is always enough to get the job done. It doesn't even matter what language. Except maybe for some mumbo-jumbo bush language.

>Ok then, compare one of Obama's speeches to one of David Cameron's. Then compare those to a speech by Churchill. Tell me they all sound the same, please.

They use different words in the same grammatical pattern.

>objectively beautiful

There is no such thing as objective beauty.

>>10040318
>>10040320
ur ip has been recorded enjoy ur ban

>>10040241
turk here

-you wot m8?

I'm guessing most of these people criticizing other languages don't even have much experience learning different languages further than required HS level shit.

filipino not being number 1?

bullshit list.

>>10040359
They use varied patterns, not in an extreme way. The context created by each speaker is very different. It's not about sentence structure. It's about the way that things are stated. It's much more complicated than just swapping around a few words. I don't see why you can think that any less bland than how Japanese give speeches.

Japanese does not use extremely varied sentence structure either, though it can, it would be strange. There are ways that things should be said or a speaker will find you very strange.

>No such thing as objective beauty
Objective beauty is that which is most perfect.

I wonder why SE asia sounds so horrible. It just feels like ear rape.

Chinese can either sound beautiful or like SE asian ear rape.

Korean, I dunno. I'm indifferent. It sounds like Japanese, but sometimes the way Koreans speak kinda pisses me off with the whole whiny sounding thing.

Japanese - Well, we're on /jp/ We're all used to it here.

>>10040411
>Objective beauty is that which is most perfect.
I'm sorry, but Esperanto doesn't sound particularly pretty.

>>10040415
Korean is too nasally. It ends in too many hums.

>>10040422
That's why English is used instead. Esperanto is shit.

English # 1.

Asia language ranking

Japanese
Mandarin
Korean
Cantonese
Thai
Vietnamese
Tagalog
Other

>>10040451
American English sounds like dogspeak, not particularly pretty either.

>>10040280
>அவர் பழைய உறவுகள் பண்டைய மொழி பேச முடியாது!

>თქვენ რა მათე?
>Google Translate
>You what mate?
I suspect not.

>>10040456
I see Japanese put on top or near the top in these rankings a lot, but I'm not sure if it's the weeaboos or if people genuinely think Japanese sounds pretty or something.

Basically, the browner the skin, the worse the language sounds.

>>10040467
That doesn't explain why Cantonese sounds a lot worse than Japanese.

>>10040411

The context is created by a different choice of vocabulary, not by grammatical features.

>Objective beauty is that which is most perfect.

How do you define "perfect"? It has neither a logical grammar, nor a logical spelling system. I'd like to hear what exactly you like about English so much, because no feature of English strike me as anything significantly outstanding. .

>>10040465
To be fair its far better than all those honking, clicking languages. Even chinese sounds ass with its FU WANG MONG HANG CHI-N horseshit. I think to a person who doesn't understand any of them, japanese would have to be the least irritating to listen to because of all its "hard" kind of sounds...

have some greek!
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16814611

>>10040459
It can be accented in so many different ways that it will appeal to most everyone when spoken by someone or another. French accented English is orgasm inducing for me but Alabamians make me cringe. All these accents make it all the more varied and complex, allowing for beauty in artistic work. Imagine hip-hop if we had no Brooklyn accent?

>Objective beauty is that which is most perfect.
Lisp.

No Doubt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkqeXB-75Pw

This list is dildos.

>>10040486
Case structure is used to create context in English. Look at how Obama addresses the US colloquially. It should be plain to see.

I would define perfect as complete. English is the most complete language. It is the most evolved, most complex, and most useful.

>>10040558
>Case structure is used to create context in English

Way more limited compared to almost any other European language.

>I would define perfect as complete

You're not answering my question.

>>10040598
I did answer your question. I don't know what more you want.

What language is more complete than English?

European (Slavic) languages come very close. European (Romantic/Germanic) are inferior to English in that English is an evolution of both.

When will the US adopt English as their official language? I'm tired of shitty spice that don't try to learn living hear.

>>10040623

No, you don't. "complete" isn't answering what exactly makes it perfect or complete.

>European (Romantic/Germanic) are inferior to English in that English is an evolution of both.

That was 1000 years ago. Those languages didn't freeze in time. And in case of English, it wasn't a mingling of languages, but often rather a replacement of vocab. English lost much of its old Anglo-Saxon vocabulary in favor of Romanic expressions. In many other languages, both native and Latin terms exist still to this day, creating a more versatile vocab.

French has a way bigger vocabulary than english ,deal with it.

But who cares ? A language is only a way of expressing yourself. If you feel restricted by the language you are using ,that's just a poor excuse for not knowing how to speak

>>10040840

"The statistics of English are astonishing. Of all the world's languages (which now number some 2,700), it is arguably the richest in vocabulary. The compendious Oxford English Dictionary lists about 500,000 words; and a further half-million technical and scientific terms remain uncatalogued. According to traditional estimates, neighboring German has a vocabulary of about 185,000 and French fewer than 100,000, including such Franglais as le snacque-barre and le hit-parade."

Robert McCrum, William Cran, & Robert MacNeil. The Story of English. New York: Penguin, 1992: 1

>>10040860
>le snacque-barre and le hit-parade
Fucking Reddit.

>>10039904
Sounds good, IMO.

But OP, Japanese is a beautiful language.

>>10040627
Liberals hate white people and western civilization so probably never. Whites will be a minority by 2050.

>>10041038
>MUH RACE IS BECOMING EQUAL WITH OTHER RACES AND CIVILIZATIONS, IM A MINORITY NOW

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I-is this what they call "language beauty otaku"?

Am I the only one who finds japanese more pleasing than english?

Although I think that may have to do with the way japanese (and especially seiyuu) tend to manipulate their voices more than the sound of the language itself.

>>10041332
I would be willing to bet you don't even speak Japanese.

>>10041357
I have some rudimentary knowledge. I don't really see your point either, there's thousands of people who go on and on about how france is so great when they don't know a lick of it. It being hard as dick to learn doesn't change the fact that it's so pleasant to listen to, and even my old japanese teachers would raise their voices like 2 octaves when speaking japanese for some reason.

>>10041332
anime japanese > standard english > standard japanese > anime english

>>10039846
what's wrong with hitler's speeches? if you actually listen to them with subtitles they are really good and moving.

>>10043299
The fact that they were made to masturbate emotional people kind of undermines the enjoyment.

>>10039722
>English
>Prettiest language

Pirate language that people can't ever get right, thus butchering a perfectly nice language.