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Is Umineko the greatest construction and deconstruction of the mystery genre?

We get four episodes full of motivation to expose the truth, but after the answer arc, we are actually goats and there is a meta inside the meta of the story, Danganronpa V3 tried to do this with the reality show twist but wasn't so much of an impact as it was with Umineko slowly BTFOing the whole readers.

I'm more amazed with Umineko's epitaph and who solved it than the actual "cat box" itself.

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R07 writes in response to his previous works, even within the same series (look at how Higurashi evolved, for example).

Higurashi is about hope and the power of friendship. Umineko shows how relationships can be broken beyond repair and that sometimes escapism is the only solution. Higanbana criticizes escapism and pointless daydreaming, showing what happens once you return to the real world after neglecting your real life for years. It also portrays dead people as being inferior to the living, powerless beings incapable of doing anything to improve their situation, a clear response to how Umineko romanticized Sayo's suicide and the afterlife of the Ushiromiyas. And RGD expands on the bullying theme but in a different context. I wonder if Ciconia will talk about how the very idea of "belonging" to a certain culture is actually bullshit. Not that RDG didn't touch on that a bit, but it was more inclined to the opposite direction.

The most obvious example of Ryukishi writing in response to his previous works is the EP8 ???? Tea Party. Ange basically turns Maria into a god by writing books about Sakutaro that teach millions of kids about Maria's philosophy and her way of finding happiness in a shitty situation. It's the same thing that Takano attempted to do for her grandfather, but she fucked it up and killed 2000 people, instead of learning from his selflessness and helping kids in need or something.

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It's honestly the worst feeling since I was playing it with him. I just don't understand people.

>>19761488
It's almost like I heard this same shit opinion over and over again with absolutely no new input or argument added.

>>18382217
I hate the fact the manga exists. I hate goats to go on RK07's ass so much that he felt the need to print answers for idiots, despite going back on his original message of EP8.

Stupid goats

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You mean the goats?

>>16374560
I don't know if it's because of the nostalgia, but the original drawings have quite the charm.

Also the third column is overall pretty bad, except for Rosa.