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>>22285708
>Some might be spies because they have something to protect and love, and they're being blackmailed with it, or many other reasons.
That's where you misunderstood. The only people that can be spies are those that stopped taking responsibility to think and make choices, as well as not loving. You can't agree to destroy the entire world, including yourself and the one you love while also wanting someone protected. It's contradictory. This understanding of nihilism is why I argue that it's a separation between not loving and not choosing. Ishak doesn't say what anything about whether he loves anything, and that's not enough to suspect him, but he does tell Rethabile to give up the responsibility of choice.

You can't say, anyone could be the spy because of reason X, when the reason for being a spy is nihilism itself. To be nihilistic, you have to value nothing as per the four standards I've given in previous threads, and it's the reason why I argue that Gun isn't the spy. She still values her sister and might even desire revenge. You cannot be nihilistic and seek the end of the world or acquire revenge if everyone is dead. Retribution requires the penitence of the living.

In contrast, Chloe is also more likely to be the spy. While she telling Lilja that she loves to fly, she has a weird discussion with Miyao about rebuilding the world using the analogy of a tower. She mentions that she'll follow any order given to her. Is that love for flying enough of a value for her to remove her from being a spy? It's hard to judge, but at the end of Phase 1, she says that she no longer what is right or wrong anymore.

Inductively, there isn't any other reason for anyone to be a spy if they stopped thinking/taking responsibility to choose or don't love anything. Everyone loves something except for those people.

Mariana loves cute things. Sephania loves her mom. Koshka loves life, Jayden loves Meow, Leah loves being of value to others, Aysha loves prestige and not being poor, Naima loves life and her friends, Gannet loves her friend, Sujatha loves being a hero and clings to hope, Gun loves her siblings/sister, Koshaka loves small pleasures in life and being alive (with the alternative of death, she took the one in infinite change), Momotake loves Lingji, Andy loves being lazy and enjoying life (see Battler), Rukhshana loves Sujatha, Fatman loves people.

Every other spy I've listed as possible suspects such as Stan, Chloe and Ishak mention have they stopped thinking. An except to this is Abdou because he also doesn't say what he loves (or I missed it?) I didn't pick up on him refusing to choose or think, so I'll reread the VN to see if he loves anything. I also haven't found anything on Naiomi. The general issue is that no one has established a proper standard for who could be the spy or why. Everyone has been throwing blindly. Gun might be the spy because she wants her revenge, and that's enough of a reason. Andy said he's kill for money, etc. If you want to argue that X is the suspect because they want to protect X, then you'd have to show me evidence for it because
>Knox 8: It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.

You can't suspect people without evidence for it. And for every character I've suspected, I've given a reason for it with proper evidence.

>>22285746
>Go make a new video.
I'm too busy solving Ciconia to make a video solving art and art criticism.

>>22272105
I already solved that. Seshat is an alien the same way as Hanyuu. See >>22261239

>>22272198
>In my opinion this actually makes it MORE interesting considering the lack of a meta world and hard mystery element.
I view it as a bad mystery. I'm not saying there can't be new elements with alternate personalities but it would be boring to have X alter personality be the culprit that even X didn't know about. The exception to this being Meow because they were introduced early on. It's also bad theory arguing when you go: 'oh it's alternative personality X that is the culprit' without any evidence.