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>>42899719
He's referencing how the manga wraps everything up after Yasu's suicide.

That said, although everything can be excused as fictional or pure metaphor that don't even exist as fiction in-universe, due to the intermingling with 98 possibilities at a certain point, and Ange in the epilogue clearly showing knowledge from this (like when she goes on about the witches being right about Battler being dead, since Tohya isn't him anymore) the only "real" explanation would be someone writing or dreaming exactly like how other people reacted in spite of never even meeting them (whether you're going with Ange point of view like the manga explicitly pushes or insists on it actually being all Tohya in spite of the Ange choice ending and the epilogue being from Ange's point of view).

That said, it is meant to be left open, which is why no post-Umineko work from R07 ever touched on Ange's world directly. Anywhere else R07 can use magic explicitly, in that point he always leaves it ambiguous.

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>>40540396
The Battler within Tohya is the part of Battler within himself. The one that he feared would one day erase him, but he couldn't accept him either. That Battler leaving is essentially him letting go of all that angst and making peace with his past.

Game Master Battler is the Battler of the main meta narrative. I guess you could see it as the Battler within Ange since the conclusion of the meta narrative is framed as Ange's dream in the manga (and although it's not as clear in the VN, it's obvious Ange's development is the point, down to the ending choices, and she references those events in first person in the epilogue, just in a less direct way).

Empty Battler is the Battler who knows nothing from the beginning of the meta narrative and eventually develops into GM Battler, with Beatrice starting her game to make him remember. You can take it as just symbolic. There's no real explanation for him outside of "the meta is real" since he shouldn't be jumping from the last moments of Yasu's mind to Ange's.

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