/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>46826961
>had no hesitation at all
Interesting. I had no hesitation when I was still just entertaining this all as hypotheticals, but the more real it started to become, the more anxious I got, untill the situation demanded a resolution.
>do you mind telling me what you mean by "what youve read so far"?
Oh, there was that one koishianon who saw her in his dreams and when he was tripping and posted something about how Koishi is pure love and just wishes to witness consciousness. I thought it was very interesting. But he wasn't the first interesting Koishi or Satori fan I have run into. That's all.
>>46826975
>old testament in particular made god out to be very wrathful
Yeah I have never really resonated with much of western religion either.
>kami can be wrathful yes, but for most thats not their default state and they feel a lot more approachable
Yes, very much so. I really feel the "they can be wrathful but it's not their default state" thing.
>buddhism
It's been extremely fascinating and fruitful to get more familiar with buddhism. I find the ideas of emptiness and how there are just categories diving us extremely fascinating. Some of the more practical meditation/mindfulness stuff has been very helpful also. I will probably move to studying the Zen material that was shared to me as soon as I finish that one book that got infodumped on me.
>some sects of buddhism make it sound pretty scary
Yeah, but I wonder how much of such is just a reflection of the brutality of the culture where these ideas developed and how much of it is a poorly thought upaya of scaring people straight.
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>>46829103
Oh yeah this is interesting stuff, albeit it's ages since I listened to the more anomalous recordings. I remember something about unidentified glowing objects being sighted over craters etc. There's also a recording where they are ask to look for Chang'e, but surely it was just a joke...

There's also the Transient Lunar Phenomena, which are probably partly natural, but there's some really weird stuff there. Like a red streak across the entire moon, multicolored huge triangle sighted on moon and so on...

I think the Hal Puthoff/Ingo Swann types attempted to remote view the moon and some absolutely weird stuff there, but back then I thought it was so absurd that I don't remember the details of this either.
>>46829059
Heh, spellcard names are a really good gateway for delving deeper into the lore and mythology.
>>46829782
I'm glad happy that you elaborated!
>My main point is basically that the esoteric lives in the exoteric, and that Touhou is certainly a helpful way to grasp this.
Yeah this is extremely well put. I think it's at the very least a kind of a potential gateway, as is anything that has exoteric front facings of more esoteric things. You might just see cool symbols or unusual representations of some religions, and then you might or might not start digging deeper depending on your proclivities and circumstances. I can say for certain that for me doing the digging has been incredibly life-enriching and has contributed to almost all areas of my life positively.

I do however also feel that there is something more that lurks below the exoteric surface. It's just not a collection of ideas and symbols and characters related to deeper ideas. There's somehow so much of it, so deeply connected to so many different people, ideas, and mythologies in the present, past and future that it's become something of it's own, or perhaps some things of their own. And it's this side of Touhou that is it's own esoteric side.

But whether you believe in such or not, I think exploring the different religions, myths and so on within the games on a deeper level can be very enriching to basicaly anyone. It helps that there is a surprisingly inteligent and kind community around Touhou. One where even shitposts get elaborated on.

>>46714716
Yeah, but like I said, Reisen already went through the Barrier without problems, and if this part of the lore is discarded so thoroughly, it means that everything else isn't 100% guaranteed either. There's room for doubt now.
So that's why I stick with the view that to the average outsider, Kaguya is the master of Eientei; that to people more in the know, Eirin with her great magics is clearly the more powerful one and running the show; and that the real truth is that Kaguya hides a truly unfathomable power that goes well beyond even Eirin's spells, but since she has great social grace, is quite considerate, and much more observant than most people give her credit for, on top of not having any desire to be in charge, allows Eirin to do as she pleases and effectively lead Eientei, because it makes her happy.
All Kaguya wants to do is play and show off all her cool stuff to others.