/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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>>21326617
Depends on whether you're a normalfag. The term basically referred to irl schoolgirl fetishists though, before being absorbed by otaku. In art tagging, there's usually a separation between "loli" and "pedo" tags with "pedo" being what people would call toddlercon here.
Loli doesn't exclusively refer to prepubescents though, unlike how pedos in the west try to pretend it does, so there's not really much of a reason to hold that debate, unless as I said at first, you're a normalfag and think anyone who likes any (less than college) school aged girl is a pedo.

There are of course the 2D only, 3DPD types too.

>>19247785
>>19247818
>thinking pedos are "normalfags" is REALLLY stretching the definition of "normalfag.
>There's this vehement, irrational disgust for pedophilia that's baffling to me, especially when we consider how, historically, sexual norms often included things we would now consider "pedophilia" but no one seems to know that or cannot reconcile that with their worldview lest it fall apart.
Aren't you saying it's weird it's not viewed as normal when it used to be sort of normal, but somehow they aren't normalfags? But I mean they're normalfags in that they go out and act well adjusted, are socially adapted and confident enough that that they can actually have sex without necessarily raping someone. (you yourself, for wanting to defend them, seperate them into rapists and sexless without the idea that they could convince someone to have a "consensual" relationship) Normalfags have kinks like foot fetish, bdsm, and serial killing all the time. It's about not being an autistic basement dweller who can only get hard to girls with dinner plate sized eyes and only socializes online.

>Also you are conflating "pedophile" with "sex with children." An attraction does not mean you will or even want to have sex with kids per se.
That's retarded. A gay person can be "in the closet" and not fuck members of their same sex, but pretending they don't want to is dumb. If you just think something is cute, you're not a whateverphile at all. Otherwise, you're just in denial.

>I say this because I will occasionally feel romantic attraction for someone but have no sexual impulse.
You could also be confusing a parenting sense with a romantic sense.

>Diddling kids doesn't actually mean you're a pedophile
Yeah sure, I said that back at `There's also a difference between "would also fuck...' etc.

>"functioning pedophiles"
Doesn't "functioning" just mean "normalfag"?

>who knows just how many are actually around?
Probably not many if it's exclusively prepubescent. It doesn't just go against society at that point, but against nature too.

>I'm struggling as it is to calmly and rationally distinguish "pedophilia" from "child rapist" without people thinking I'm secretly a pedophile rapist in disguise out of hysteria.
You seem to fail at it, since you seem to accept the idea that any sex is rape. Furthermore, to use a bad analogy:
I like the game series Arcana Heart. Not many others in the west do, and people tend/ed to say it's weird or creepy, being about a bunch of young girls in anime outfits and seeming sexualized. The fans of it tend/ed to defend it by saying stuff like "It's not sexualized, the game doesn't even show any panty shots or anything!" Now, everything from Guilty Gear to Street Fighter to Soul Caliber to Dead or Alive shows panty shots and people enjoy that. Pointing out that the series doesn't have panty shots doesn't make it seem acceptable, but instead makes it seem weird. Is the whole appeal of the girls just the cosplay then if you don't get to see their panties? Why is it better that it pretends to not be sexualized? "I like games entirely about girls but I like the games to be pure and not show up the girls skirts". It's twisted thinking don't you think?
You also remind me of how furries would insist it was only a minority of the fandom that wanted to have sex with animal people/animals. It's like if you think you're an animal and your partner is an animal then are you saying you don't want to fuck them now? You seem dishonest saying you're attracted to someone but don't want to fuck them. "I really, really like kids, but I would totally never fuck your daughter."
This is what I mean by normalfag too. The guys would want to fuck the daughter but they aren't going to insist they would never fuck her. They'd probably try to get in good with the mother so she lets them fuck her or something.

Basically, you do seem like you're putting up a disguise. You don't see adults going "There's a difference between a teleiophile and an adult rapist. Because I like grown people doesn't mean I'm going to rape them"(except towards feminists) or see them going "I like the idea of having sex with grown people but I'm not going to" unless they're some meme sexuality or being abstinent for some reason. So unless you're a pedophile monk, there's no reason to go on about how you want to fuck kids but wouldn't if given the chance. It's normal for people not to fuck everyone they see.

>>16087316
It's not a meme.

Just say no to 3D

>>12563093

>>10327043
I want to see this with a lolicon, saying "I'll never lose to tits"

>>9922883