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>> No.20191851 [View]
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>>20191641
>Their interaction seems artificial and self-serving.

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>>19057350
This is taken from the author's note (Ryukishi07) in Episode 4 manga.

>Ange refuses to believe in witches and steadfastly holds to her belief that Eva is the killer yet there are scenes where she speaks to Maria and Sakutarou. "What does this mean?"

>I cannot tell you the answer to that question yet. But now that you've read through this episode, I think I can give you a hint.

>"You cannot see it without love."

>Neither Beatrice's true intentions nor the emotions of Eva the survivor, These things cannot be described by others. And without the red text of truth, how do we learn the "truth" in the real world?

>I beseech you to travel the story with an "eye of love" and an "eye without love". I believe that these eyes combined, when you are lost without truth in the real world, will give you just a tiny hint when you need it most."

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>>18636754
Sounds like you just have no love for Yukari, nor gensokyo itself. Therefore all Yukari does is wrong, and for her own benefit. Reimu is a selfish bitch. All the human villagers are oppressed, and unsatisfied, and the human village isn't a nice place to live. All the rest of the youkai, ghosts, gods, etc? Fuck 'em, they lost the "evolutionary race" and shouldn't exist anymore, or whatever. I don't know exactly what you think about this world but it seems like you don't really care about it much, which is pretty sad.

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>> No.18421553 [View]
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>>18421267
Thinking is hard and it's easier to blame the author than to accept that I couldn't figure out the mysteries by myself as well as the fact that I could have put more effort into trying instead of wishing for clear answers that I never end up receiving.
Why accept failure and loss when I can just blame the author and his game and attack every little thing to justify my hate? "Without love it cannot be seen"? What is that suppose to mean? Maybe if I think on it more... Nah, Ryukishi is just a hack.

It can't be helped, you can't please everyone and not everyone will understand and figure out a mystery. It might also depend on whether you see Umineko more like a game where the characters are just pieces on a gameboard or more like a story where the characters are far more than that and have to be understood by the reader.
One of the main messages of Umineko is a simple yet complex perspective, seeing with and without love. We can try, but we're still only human in the end.

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>>18269256
She's a lunarian god that lived for thousands of years. You can hardly blame her about not giving fuck about almost anything. And you can apply the same logic on other 2hus like Yuuka. I mean disliking character is ok but disliking character for almost made up reasons is just dumb. Somehow pic very related.

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>>18266462
Yasu knows that the plans and actions towards the end weren't exactly justified or flawlessly well-thought out, and even had second-thoughts about actually pulling off the sacrifices for the first twilight and beyond. While there is a desire to be accepted by someone, Yasu at the very least wants to be understood and was even hoping to be stopped. I would say it's fair to dislike Yasu as a person, especially one as broken as that. Not even Yasu likes Yasu.
You can use "love" to come to the conclusion about Yasu before the reveal and even to understand the motive, but it doesn't mean you're forced like Yasu because of that. In Umineko, "love" is treated as a kind of perspective.

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>>17751827
If that's what you're going to take from it, okay. Whether or not Umineko is poorly written, I still really enjoyed it and had a lot of fun.

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>>16755807
>the comments
>lol Umineko fan-base is the worst thing about Umineko. They're so unnecessarily condescending and arrogant. 'Without love it cannot be seen'' Unless you don't agree with my same theory, then fuck you, you're wrong, and you're stupid.

Reading stuff like this is almost hilarious in so many ways when it comes to Umineko.

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