/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>45790284
His jap readers were gonna kill him over ep8, and although the manga takes away the active thinking aspect of the vn (which is why I prefer the vn), it makes itself more accessible without taking away from its core message and themes. IMO R07 recognized that not everyone couldn't reach the core of the mystery solely due to a lack of love and made the manga more accessible for those people at least. ''Multiple truths'' isn't the single absolute point of Umi, it's about being understood, and being understood isn't the same as ''Anything can be true'', it's about seeing the truth behind the possibilities the author (R07) clearly put there to be seen. Looking with love has multiple layers of meaning and the one that Beato's plot represents is in the reltationship with fiction which is understanding the message from the author through how she writes her games and empathy/seeing the side of the other person even if she did bad things. The games are written with purpose in their choices and full of hints for a specific truth, if it was about how the truth could be anything, it would donwplay the act of trying to understand her and interpret her stoires with faith in her intentions.

The manga doesn't just shovel it's truths either, it uses them to build on the parallel with Beato and Ange; Confession gives everyone and opportunity to understand the heart of the story. While it does lose active aspects which again, is something I heavily dislike, it serves Beato and Ange's parallel and leads directly into Cage of Obligations, the thematic culmination where all the characters show a new understanding of themselves and the cycle they were stuck in. It's not a coincidence many people believe the manga to be superior to the vn, it genuinely is a wonderful adaptation of a wonderful text if you ask me. I just prefer the vn because I am nostalgic for it and enjoyed thinking about the mysteries myself, along with the incredibly immersive music and more detailed text.

>>45689264
His staff did tell him to but I assume he listened to them for a reason. Regardless, that doesn't matter to my interpretation of it anyway, especiall since it's mainly about Ange for me. I've nothing against seeing them as a couple, I just think it went well with the whole message the vn was trying to send. Like, wtc overall is pretty criticial of the mindset that romance is absolutely necessary in someone's life but it's especially visible in umi to me.

Ange finds happinness and fulfillment and moves on with her life and it's all while she stays single, the core resolution resides within the sibling bond she shares with Battler even if he's no longer the same person he was. Tohya realizes that writing a story for Ange isn't enough and that he needs to meet with her in person, and he also has a platonic relationship with Ikuko. Their meeting is what allows both of them to finally complete their healing.

The motorboat scene shows this notion too and deconstructs it. Battler and Sayo are clear parallels to Kinzo and Bice in this scene, except the only difference here is that Sayo commits suicide due to her self-loathing, guilt and the idea that she will forever continue the cycle of abuse and suffering. But it also denies the idea of romance being the end all be all of her problems. Her problems are too complex for one man to singlehandedly resolve. Then, Sayo didn't need Battler or any of the cousins to ''save'' her because it wouldn't have fixed any of her problems when they're due to the world and people around her who failed someone like her in the first place. Then, if you look again at how it parallels Kinzo and Bice, you realize their romance is what started the countdown to the family's downfall in the first place, and that drives the whole point home.

Of course this is just how I interpret it, no one else has to see it this way so if you think I'm full of shit, good for you. But I like to think this is how r07 intended for it to come across considering the message that romantic love isn't any more or less important/significant than platonic love is all over WTC and Umineko especially is all about it. I love Ange so much because seeing her move on after coming to accept her situation and believing in the love her family once had for her is genuinely very moving to me, and I appreciate that it doesn't hinge on a seperate character she might've married at some point. It's just pure platonic love and Ange mustering up her strength to move on, it's a powerful message imo.

>>45359997
No but actually, there are few fictional characters out there that I love as much as Ange