/int/ & /beg/ - Intermediate and Beginners Thread

[Anonymous No.7033577]

If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved? are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them? maybe a redline or a technique, be specific

Previous thread>>7030719

[Anonymous No.7033584]

I've drawn for 9 days in a row and am actually getting better, feels pretty good.

[Anonymous No.7033587]

>>7033577
you could have faintly painted in the logo of the thread in green yah know...wasted opportunity

[Anonymous No.7033600]

so glad there's two threads now that are gonna stay in the catalog for a month or even longer and nobody is gonna know where to actually post just creating confusion and making discussion even worse, thank you anon for fixing the minor typo in the title it was truly worth it

[Anonymous No.7033601]

>>7033584
i haven't drawn for over a year and i think about it daily but i can't force myself to sit down and even a doodle a little bit would've kys by now if human lifespan wasn't so short already i can just wait this shit out.

[Anonymous No.7033602]

>>7033577
Guess the race

[Anonymous No.7033605]

>>7033600
It's because of the loli

[Anonymous No.7033612]

>>7033605
Lol who cares this is 4chin and it's just a drawing

[Anonymous No.7033615]

>>7033600
It's /beg/, both threads will max post count by tomorrow

[Anonymous No.7033617]

>>7033615
Today if we keep this up.

[Anonymous No.7033620]

WHERE IS PAWEL??????

[Anonymous No.7033623]

>>7033620
drawing, probably

[Anonymous No.7033633]

>>7033600
>confusion
Damn. Am I gonna post on a thread with a nice OP image and right title or a fucking pedo thread with fucked up title? What a dilemma!!!
Stfu child-fucker. You made a bad thread. Deal with it. No one wants to post on your abortion of a thread.

[Anonymous No.7033634]

Just thanking you guys again for the aid.
Shit was hard

[Anonymous No.7033639]

>>7033634
go study the leg form, the shadow is pretty telling you have no idea how to simplify them into simple forms

[Anonymous No.7033642]

>>7033600
>/beg/ threads
>on catalog for a month
What a fucking retarded tourist.

[Anonymous No.7033654]

>>7033600
Genuine room temperature IQ. Leave

[Anonymous No.7033659]

[Anonymous No.7033663]

>>7033634
>white void
You make it look like you put an effort but you didn't even bother to place them on a ground plane. Considering how the figure on the bottom has her foot placed as if she is kneeling on something I believe you used multiple references at different angles without thinking about the drawing as a whole.

[Anonymous No.7033685]

Working on hands first step proportions, summary from multiple sources: Russian, japanese and american I would like to find some french resources, but I cant find anything under french 19th academy, will I have to check their unis syllabus?, any suggestions?

also if someone has more useful proportions or tips for hands, please tell me.

>>7033634
What would you think will improve this illustration? What are you not happy with?

>>7033659
I don't like the ear, cool eyes and nose.

>>7033602
florida man

[Anonymous No.7033694]

sticking out your gyatt for the rizzler

[Anonymous No.7033700]

>>7033685
>I don't like the ear, cool eyes and nose.
I personally liked it a lot, but I softened the shape and added a lobe so it looked more normal.

[Anonymous No.7033705]

>>7033685
You should paste your reference on your canvas, then drag your drawing on top of your reference. You don't need to get your drawing to match up perfectly, but any big discrepancies should be taken care of

[Anonymous No.7033708]

>>7033600
Yeah not if jannies prove they're kikes. Oh, damn, and it's gone. I guess we know what that means.

[Anonymous No.7033711]

[Anonymous No.7033713]

>>7033705
Nah that shits dumb and a waste of time. Use your eyes to compare instead, then you will actually improve by you know engaging your brain in figuring shit out.

[Anonymous No.7033715]

>>7033700
With the lobe I... actually like it. I apologize.

>>7033705
I will keep it in mind thanks anon, but thats part of the discovery and learning process, I just followed the proportions and imagine the insides using taco symbols. I fucked up the ulna and radius width and the pinky metacarpal location (and probably so many other things).

>>7033711
untainted from loomis talent, do loomis >:D

[Anonymous No.7033716]

>>7033713
if you've never tried it you can't criticize it

[Anonymous No.7033729]

>>7033659
It's all still kind of off but I assume that's what you're going for.

[Anonymous No.7033730]

>>7033659
you gotta study more simplified forms and less anatomy

[Anonymous No.7033741]

>>7033634
>>7033663
its a trace

[Anonymous No.7033743]

>>7033729
No, but your idea is cool too.
>>7033730
Noted, just out of curiosity, what will that improve specifically that bruteforcing anatomy won't achieve?

[Anonymous No.7033765]

>>7030979
added some colours

[Anonymous No.7033783]

>>7033765
you're amazing anon. You will do great things with art

[Anonymous No.7033788]

Is it really all about the numbers at the end? I mean, I'm trying to figure out how to make it in this field as a wannabe artist yet it seems that what matters is the exposure you have on social media; the more fame you get the better because the potential to find clients increases? Is there any other way around to this to make it in this field or is it just all about posting and posting online?

[Anonymous No.7033795]

>>7033788
If you're only drawing just to turn it into a career find a another job. There's a reason the term starving artist was coined a hundred years ago.

[Anonymous No.7033797]

>>7033788
freelancing often has nothing to do with social media: you just cold call clients, send them your portfolio, and build your network that way. That's how it worked in the past. You'd just show up to an art director's office and present your portfolio. Things still happen that way.

Social media IS becoming a way to get yourself known, but cold calling is still how people get most clients. Show up to conventions and participate in discord servers where editors and art directors might lurk. Send your portfolio to studio websites and network with recruiters. etc etc

[Anonymous No.7033798]

>>7033765
Normally I find tits drawn like that disgusting but this looks really good.

[Anonymous No.7033811]

>>7033685
step 2:; fafo at least I have something to compare to in the future.

>>7033765
Nice boobs good sense of weight, hard to judge but the glutes can be more shapely.


>>7033741
your core shadows are not helping defining the form, for example the left leg of the silver hair girl.

nite nite anons.

[Anonymous No.7033812]

>>7033811
dummy

[Anonymous No.7033820]

>>7033765
Sexo, done any ntr scenarios?

[Anonymous No.7033826]

5 minute hyper angle poses.

Man, I still miss Red Blob senpai. :(
>>7033584
Based
>>7032698
Good shit
>>7032727
>fleshbags out
I thought it was “tits or gtfo”
>>7032736
Pretty good. I misinterpreted the one in the bottom right at first
>>7033171
Good job yet again
>>7033259
Amazing studies, lots of variety, GMI as fuck
>>7033602
Nordic alien pretending to be Jesus
>>7033634
Ayy, congratulations anon! Looks good!
>>7033694
Well done
>>7033743
NTA, but feeling the form supes up everything else you do. Practicing primitive forms and organics is a good way to do acquire that ability. It looks like you’re doing fine on that front, though, so I wouldn’t worry about it. Maybe he meant Morpho simplified forms, not sure. The delt looks weird/not in perspective, but I think you’re right on track based on the head and neck you drew.
>>7033741
>trace
Kek
>>7033765
Superb. The way her skirt overlaps the far side of her jacket (and the way the buckle thing in the jacket overlaps her skirt) doesn’t make much sense to me. I want to see you draw full figures with legs and feet.
>>7033812
Nice hand studies, sleep tight, anon.

[Anonymous No.7033828]

Does her smile look genuine. I struggle with conveying emotion properly in my art.

[Anonymous No.7033830]

>>7033826
>Red Blob
??? WHO ???

[Anonymous No.7033854]

>>7032736
Here’s what I misinterpreted it as lol
>>7033830
Red Blob Anon/Red Blob Senpai was an anon who used to post in /beg/ like 6 months ago. He was really good and his figures were just… succulent and supple and fucking good. He was very active and spent a lot of time redlining and giving feedback to anons. He used a red brush and he started out his gestures as blobby shapes before refining them into the finished drawing. He was way better than me and had been here before me, so I called him Red Blob Senpai. He’s apparently in a pretty unstable country and was having financial troubles, so he wanted to ask his followers to donate, but wasn’t sure how. So he asked /beg/ for feedback on the message he wanted to send his followers, and got basically crabbed off the board. He never gave his blog, so I never saw him again. I liked him. He was a good dude. He inspired me to effortpost with feedback and give (you)s to anons who need it. And I miss him.

[Anonymous No.7033859]

>just draw bro

[Anonymous No.7033882]

A shitty flockmod sketch I couldn't finish. Was the lower body too off? Couldn't find proper references and had to wing it.


>>7033826
Godfucking damn you are good.

[Anonymous No.7033883]

>>7033798
Homosexual.
>>7033765
Ever thought about adding some light pink hue for an areola slip?

[Anonymous No.7033885]

[Anonymous No.7033892]

It's been a lazy day

[Anonymous No.7033912]

/beg/ here
I know there are many mistakes but cant really put my finger oin them to fix them
would apreciate some criticism or redlining

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7033927]

Go to bed.

[Anonymous No.7033945]

>>7033854
I liked his stuff. I hope he's getting his shit together and comes back eventually. This place needs more effort posts.

[Anonymous No.7034005]

>>7033854
I didn't save his post but I do remember the way he asked for money was so cringe that he deserved the shit he got. Just a shame he couldn't take it in stride but left the board instead.

[Anonymous No.7034012]

>>7033584
very good anon! I made it my goal to draw daily for the year and it feels really good so far, since you're making continuous progress even if you're just doodling some days

[Anonymous No.7034014]

[Anonymous No.7034016]

>>7033882
hot

[Anonymous No.7034025]

am i anywhere close to crawling out of the /beg/ bucket

>>7033828
it looks a little creepy, mostly because the corners aren't really upturned and she isn't smiling with her eyes

[Anonymous No.7034026]

>>7034025
>am i anywhere close to crawling out of the /beg/ bucket
No. But the only way is to keep going

[Anonymous No.7034029]

[Anonymous No.7034030]

>>7033828
>Does her smile look genuine.
I was gonna say yes but after really looking at it I'm not really sure, so I guess not then. Don't be afraid to exaggerate your expressions unless you're going for realism.

[Anonymous No.7034033]

>>7034025
this drawing...looks fun.

[Anonymous No.7034035]

>>7034025
I am ashamed to know the source of this picture.

[Anonymous No.7034036]

>>7034014
Shoulders are sticking out a bit too much, and something about that hip bone is off. Hand looks so broken and deformed I'd almost think it was on purpose, unless it really was intentional I'd say go grind hand construction a little. I still think it overall looks appealing though, I like the style and especially the face/head/hair

[Anonymous No.7034037]

>>7034025
I'd really prefer it if you'd just be quiet

[Anonymous No.7034038]

I want to draw cute and beautiful things. But all I can do properly is figure drawing. So I guess drawing coom is the only make for me to make it. I hate it.

[Anonymous No.7034039]

>>7034038
pyw

[Anonymous No.7034040]

>>7034038
draw magical girls

[Anonymous No.7034048]

>>7033577
Shred it pls

[Anonymous No.7034051]

>>7034038
Every time you try to do something new you will suck at it. It's part of the learning process

Find an artist that draws the things you like. Try to reproduce. Copy, try to recreate from memory, fail, do it again, until you "get" what makes those cute and pretty pics click

[Anonymous No.7034069]

>>7034038
A little over three months ago, picrel was the best I could do at art. I worked and worked and failed and failed just like the other anon said, and now I'm leagues better. Belly aching on /ic/ won't help, all you can do is work; there's no way around it. There's nothing worth achieving that doesn't require sweat and tears. I believe in you, Anon. You will do it.

[Anonymous No.7034079]

>>7034025
if you want to crawl out of /beg/ bucket you first need to buy some fruits, Apples and oranges will be the easiest to obtain, set up the fruits near a window or a spotlight if you have one. And start drawing from life, farm those apple and orange drawings, and understand shadow, light, and organic shapes.

[Anonymous No.7034085]

I'm getting filtered by boxes bros, not like this, pls redline

[Anonymous No.7034092]

>>7031457

con't. feet construction feels pretty easy with Hampton. hand construction is challenging, but I'm starting find a workflow.

>>7033743
>>7033700

really love the strong shapes here, especially in the eye.

>>7033812

nice notes. saved for ref.

>>7033826

not sure if you're the same anon, but I think I said this last thread. love your gestures. saved.

>>7033882

I wanna say there's something off with the torso form, particularly around the shouders and base of the ribcage. can't quite put my finger on it. cute toga though.

>>7033912

you're super heavy on the contour of the figure, and that makes it look stiff. something is getting lost in the intersection of the chest and the should of the arm holding the sword. the right deltoid is anemic and needs more volume. the sway of the fabric on the hood helps with the movement.

>>7034014
I agree with points stated here >>7034036
I will say that I like the hatching quite a bit

>>7034029
do you post your pages anywhere? I'd like to see more

[Anonymous No.7034144]

Tried sketching a vaguely french person and it almost killed me
>>7033826
not quite the jesus part but the rest is correct

[Anonymous No.7034161]

>>7034085
are these from imagination? I think your main problem is when a line should be parallel, perpendicular or skewed (basically how far/close the vp are) Try this use a reference (I have one at https://idlecanvas-wagmi.web.app/?mode=3d ) try to copy some random cubes but think when lines should be parallel and when they should be skewed, This will also give more variety of viewing angles something you are also missing.

>>7034029
the thumbnail the bird looks the boobs

>>7033927
This is good, I've been thinking about using that kind of pattern with some blended noise to give the lines some width variation.
Something I would do is to make the eye whiter than the rest so it can pop.

>>7033912
I don't like the hip + legs, the hip twist doesn't match the leg placement at least for me. also the floor doesn't makes sense.

[Anonymous No.7034163]

>>7034085
you could use a 3d program, but it's best to judge the natural rate of convergence with your own eyes and a real cube

[Anonymous No.7034165]

Does anyone know how to use Blender for 3d references?
CSPfags don't reply.

[Anonymous No.7034166]

>>7034165
what do you want to know, modeling or only using things downloaded from the internet?

[Anonymous No.7034171]

>>7034144
Putin?

[Anonymous No.7034212]

quick study

[Anonymous No.7034213]

>>7034212
Liked this, do you have any recent original stuff? And how are you grinding art?

[Anonymous No.7034217]

>>7034213
>>7028665

I try to draw everyday. even if it's 10 min doodling.

[Anonymous No.7034225]

>>7034161 I see thank
also yes they were all from imagination, I should have probably started with reference and then move on doing them from imagination
just started doing proko basics so I'm very inexperienced

[Anonymous No.7034240]

>>7033602
american

[Anonymous No.7034242]

>>7034165
Draw to learn.

[Anonymous No.7034250]

Should I switch to digital eventually? So much digital art looks kinda soulless to me and I really prefer just drawing with a pencil. Coloring with pencils sucks though, and I don't wanna paint.

Could I just do linework irl, take a pic, and then color it on my computer?

[Anonymous No.7034254]

I can't ever bring myself to draw because it looks too difficult to me but every time I think about giving up, I feel suicidal. What should I do?

[Anonymous No.7034258]

>>7034250
>Should I switch to digital eventually?
if you enjoy it. Be prepared for a learning curve tho since its a completely different medium

>Could I just do linework irl, take a pic, and then color it on my computer?
yep very valid way of doing things, lots of ppl do it this way

[Anonymous No.7034272]

>>7034250
IMO digital painting looks soulful if you go about it with a "move the paint around" mindset like it's done traditionally compared using a clean lineart with a ton of layer effects etc. The problem is that it's very time consuming and since time is money it's not a process that ends up being preferred by the industry.

[Anonymous No.7034289]

>>7033883
excelent idea, I added the areolas and refined the lines

[Anonymous No.7034300]

>>7034254
Scream at the sky in the hope God will hear you.

[Anonymous No.7034307]

[Anonymous No.7034311]

>>7034307
is this you... ngmi polishkek?

[Anonymous No.7034317]

>>7034289
I would have gone for a less saturated colour but it is vastly improved. Great work anon.

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7034319]

>>7034161
Go ahead, you might do way better than me and i could learn something from it.

[Anonymous No.7034333]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuOjwGa1Ozo

[Anonymous No.7034336]

One hour study.

[Anonymous No.7034346]

>>7034336
what did you learn

[Anonymous No.7034357]

>>7034346
Learn? Nothing. But this art reminded me about the importance of double lines.

[Anonymous No.7034371]

>>7034250
>Should I switch to digital eventually?
why not both?
depending on what you want to achieve is the workflow you use, I like sketching on paper than digital so for my purposes a single photo parallel to the sketch is sufficient I use my smartphone camera with the following settings for kraft paper + blue pencil:
aperture: 1.69 EV (f/1.8)
shtter speed: 4.12 EV (1/17 sec.)
ISO speed: 50
exposure time: 1/17 sec.
Pic related is a example of what I sometimes do. sketch > photo > blending mode overlay/multiple > digital lineart > color.

If you want to use your pencil/ink lines in the final piece now you have to take in consideration, you lighting setting, paper color (white for best results), sketching pencil (non-photo-blue, everybody seem to love prismacolor) and camera. Then you should use a little of digital compositing magic (blending modes, mask, etc) to be able to work in you piece while retaining the original lines.

This is a great example of how the end product looks, shes great.
https://twitter.com/AugustLamm/status/1563233238859976705


>>7034319
will try and report later boss.

[Anonymous No.7034374]

>>7034166
I don't think I can model. Mostly just putting together models and shit for background and perspective references.
>>7034242
Uh?

[Anonymous No.7034375]

>>7034092
>I wanna say there's something off with the torso form, particularly around the shouders and base of the ribcage. can't quite put my finger on it. cute toga though.
Could REALLY use someone to help me see it because I am completely lost.
>>7034272
Based
>>7034016
Thx.

[Anonymous No.7034385]

After several coom sketches I realized I was missing some perspective in order to make something less boring.

[Anonymous No.7034410]

Fuckin up so bad

[Anonymous No.7034415]

Got a hankering for some physical media and went to Barnes & Noble the other day. Pic related was $15. Started reading it today. At first it was all anatomy and some minor art history, but on page 48 he tells you to basically copy his sketch and copy of Rokeby Venus by Diego Velasquez.
So that's what I did today. Ok the one hand is probably one of my best works to date. Ok the other hand it's a copy of a copy.

Was this a good use of my time?

[Anonymous No.7034416]

>>7034415
yes

[Anonymous No.7034421]

>>7034374
>Mostly just putting together models and shit for background and perspective references.
Then is quite easy, the format I like the most for models is GLB because is the lightest, just use file > import > gITF.2 to load the glb model. the the most basic things you should know are:
-how to scale
-how to rotate
-how to add lighting to the scene (this includes creating planes and lighting objects)
-how to use the camera
and you are set, everything else you learn about blender would be extra for your needs. When you get something you like you can screenshot it and used on the drawing software. I think Krita is working on an embed view of blender right in the app.

Another advantage of using glb files is that you can use this webviewier and now you don't even need to load blender to see the model.
https://modelviewer.dev/editor/

[Anonymous No.7034422]

God, for whatever reason I just CAN'T do converging lines or perpendicular lines properly

Something is wrong with my fucking eyes

[Anonymous No.7034423]

>>7033577
1/2

[Anonymous No.7034424]

>>7034423
2/2
on purpose stuck w hard round brush and light coming from the side
critique on lighting rendering?

[Anonymous No.7034471]

Can anyone tell me if there is hope for me ? i mean i feel like a permabeg
what i mean is you can TELL someone can/will improve and some will be forever permabegs
its just impossible to tell when you are the artist

[Anonymous No.7034473]

Redlines are appreciated

[Anonymous No.7034481]

>>7034415
>>7034416
It feels like cheating, but okay. I'll keep doing it.

[Anonymous No.7034486]

>>7034471
You look like you're better at shading than line work. If you're that worried about it, I'd recommend a pen and some cheap paper. Work on your drawing and line quality. You've got values down good enough for where you're drawing skill is at.
>But I'm digital
A physical pen and a ton of cheap paper will do better for you than six months on your device.

[Anonymous No.7034494]

I'm not goind to draw today.
There's nothing i want to draw either way. And even if there were i couldn't because my skill level would be too low

[Anonymous No.7034496]

>>7033741
can you trace a toilet?

[Anonymous No.7034499]

>>7034471
No idea what the other anon is talking about desu. Take it with a big grain of salt.

>what i mean is you can TELL someone can/will improve and some will be forever permabegs
Yes some people are just mentally very deranged and there's not much that can be done, but this doesn't seem to be your case at all simply judging by this.
Try to find passion in art, you'll find it more fun to progress and worry less about being a "permabeg".

[Anonymous No.7034509]

>>7034499
>No idea what he's talking about.
Get your eyes checked. That's some shit lines.
Or should I lie to him?

[Anonymous No.7034517]

Did this recently

[Anonymous No.7034518]

first time I tried to make a light like this. I like how it ended up turning out

[Anonymous No.7034520]

>>7034509
It's just some sketchy lines, that you go as far as telling them to drop digital for 6 months in favor of trad over this is completely extreme. That you come to this conclusion so hastily tells me you're projecting something and should not be handing such advice without knowing more about the person.

[Anonymous No.7034521]

>>7034520
Agreeing, perfectly fine sketch lines.

[Anonymous No.7034524]

>>7034486
Thanks for the imput anon, im mostly digital because i want to paint and i am too embarrassed to let anyone see paintings i do because im not *good* yet
i know this is counter productive to my goal but it literally feels like im getting impaled whenever someone even notices that i am drawing at all

>>7034499
Thanks bro, ones own improvement is hard to notice. I do finally find joy in art since 2/3ds of my drawings turn out (to my eyes and current stage) nice.
I feel like i finally hit the point where drawing isnt a chore anymore because the output is actually something i like

[Anonymous No.7034534]

>>7034524
>because im not *good* yet
"Good artists" with no history attached to them can easily be found anywhere. It can be harder to relate to such people, it's as if they're plastic or products
Artists who show everything from 0 to 100 are a lot more inspiring as people can relate to them at a human level. If you want to win hearts keep exposing yourself and people will pull you up in return.

[Anonymous No.7034543]

>>7034520
I didn't say to drop digital for stuff months. I said one stack of paper will do more than six months of digital
>>7034521
>Perfectly fine sketch lines
WTF is the point of digital if you don't remove them?
>>7034524
Sounds like a lack of confidence so I'm doubling down. Go through a stack of cheap paper. Take six hours or six months, whatever. Fucking up and fishing anyway will solve your major issues.
>Paint
Like I said, you totally got the values down, or at least good enough to pass for a competent artist.
>See... Not good yet...
I'm fucking shameless and I show my /beg/ shit to anyone. 9 out of 10 normies will look at it and say "I CouLDn't eVEn dRAw a StiCk fiGure!" Non artist normie consOOmers don't know shit. And any actual artists will either empathize with when they were at your stage, or feel so insure about themselves they won't say shit. The only place anyone will shit talk (you) is right here and I already just did, so the worst of it is over.

Also, I recommend listing to proko's interview of Glen Vilppu. Not about technical shit, in fact you don't even need to watch it, just listen. It's about his happy optimistic philosophy.
https://youtu.be/rbN8wbRz9i8?si=gBomd4fLcmmz5Cxh
The guy is so fucking positive and happy you just gotta put this on and listen, preferably when your doing something mindless, like driving.

[Anonymous No.7034545]

>>7034517
It took me a while to work out that the caterpillar-like things are her feet. Also, females don't have antlers. The whole furry/elf chimera fetishism annoys me with its ignorance of animal body plans and their evolutionary logic.

[Anonymous No.7034548]

i like drawing :D

[Anonymous No.7034550]

>>7034518
The light is nicely done, and I like the composition that tells a story.

The only thing I would try to do differently is to somehow make the character less of a victim. I want to see the crabs stomped.

[Anonymous No.7034552]

>>7034092
>blackwash cringe
Top left looks like a man with big monkey hands and small baby head.

[Anonymous No.7034578]

>>7034524
Your eyebrows are way too scratchy. The model looks like she has expertly trimmed and pencilled her own to achieve simple geometric shapes so you should do the same: her left eyebrow (nearest to her visible ear) is simply a shallow chevron tapering to a point nearest the ear). The model's lower lip is more of a bulb and not as wide as the upper lip

[Anonymous No.7034582]

>>7034517
your colors are niiice

[Anonymous No.7034585]

>>7034578
its alright bro that was just how my paintings used to look, i thnk i had a meltdown with this one tho

[Anonymous No.7034603]

>>7034545
They're ears my guy

[Anonymous No.7034619]

>>7034524
So, this was a little sloppy in my part, sorry Anon.

I redlined the correct proportions on your portrait, the main thing you have to take away is to be sure of your drawing before you go into painting.

Next I tried to correct your values, even though I am not a painter, even I can see what you missed: the darks aren't dark enough and the lights aren't light enough, it's all muddy.

[Anonymous No.7034640]

Beeeeg. hi

>>7034518
>background uses all values
>foreground does not
>>7034517
she has something on right side of her face (beard?), but it isnt on left side, breaking the inherent symmetry of faces. is this intentional?
>>7034473
booba
>>7034471
>>7034025
you drew and you pyw. keep this up and it is guaranteed success
>>7034424
you didnt use whole value range
>>7034422
there is a reason why half of perspective books said to construct perspective grid and use it as underlay
>>7034415
thats literally how you learn how to draw. by drawing (what you see, BEG). the tricky part will be when you decide you want to draw what you dont see (INT)
>>7034289
very coomable
>>7034250
never blame the medium for the lack of skill. and for the record you can make soulless stuff in trad too
>>7034212
the booba closer to the viewer defies gravity and common sense and perspective but its still coomable
>>7034048
the pic is undercooked. where is outline of city or mountain or something? the red soft light implies orange sodium lamps, yet the bitch is perfectly white (add orange highlights or orange overlay). also you fucked up the perspective: the lamps get smaller with distance, but their distance of each other remains constant (the distance foreshortens too). composition is too boring, dont put stuff in dead middle unless you have plans to break comp with other objects in background
>>7034038
>you are NOT allowed to draw cute beautiful figures
lol. lmao
>>7034014
she is asking for it
>>7033885
cute pokemon
>>7033620
i was not drawing for 2 days. it is over

[Anonymous No.7034651]

>>7034371
Thx, that shit on twitter looks awesome. Definitely gonna use this method.

[Anonymous No.7034653]

>>7034640
>there is a reason why half of perspective books said to construct perspective grid and use it as underlay

Such as? I kind of struggle even with basic VP stuff

[Anonymous No.7034655]

>>7034038
I got better at drawing cats and cute animals after studying human anatomy and bone structure. We’re all made of the same stuff and our arms spine feet whatever bend similarly it’s just arranged differently

[Anonymous No.7034683]

Practicing trad, hatching, etc. I wasnt too sure about how to draw the shirt but it came out decently I think.

Any feedback would be appreciated

[Anonymous No.7034694]

Didn’t realize that I posted in dead thread
Now that I’m in the right thread, what do I need to improve on for next time?

[Anonymous No.7034703]

>>7034640
I don't know what tablet you're using but something that might help you is if you turn on/increase pen pressure and increase stabilization to 8%
Also you could try to block in the shadows instead of hatching them. It'll save you a lot of time and still helps you learn about the separation of light and shadow on the figure.

[Anonymous No.7034708]

>>7034694
Are those Covenant Prophets?

[Anonymous No.7034709]

[Anonymous No.7034721]

>>7034640
>she has something on right side of her face
It's supposed to be fangs just drawing them as simplistic looking as possible

[Anonymous No.7034724]

>>7034694
I think more texturing and surface/matter alterations, especially with color. Like how an organ, flood or otherwise, looks, they look like clay as-is. Use the prophets' gray skin to stand out from the flood green, like how the crowns really stand out. Find spots for fungal features too, flowering spores and all that.

[Anonymous No.7034725]

>>7034319
Done chief, I really like your original and this was done just as proof of concept if something worked is just because the og was good.

I'm not sure about the flare effect on the eye, may totally destroy the feeling.

Well you can use noise to give an even eerier feeling.

This "animated noise" can be used to create a boiler line effect with a little more dilatation effect ummm...

>>7034683
pretty lines anon and fluffy feeling on wings and pompoms?, I don't like the elbows and the left upper arm

[Anonymous No.7034743]

>>7034640
>you didnt use whole value range
How so? I'm aware I didn't use whites, but given the darker sphere base color it wouldn't get close to white?

[Anonymous No.7034763]

>>7034725
nta but the hue idea is nice, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.7034772]

It sucks being both stupid and retarded at the same time

[Anonymous No.7034808]

This was an exercise in drawing a varied number of anthro species.

[Anonymous No.7034815]

>>7034708
Yes
>>7034724
>texture
>contrast between different objects
>small, misc details
Noted. Thank you anonymous.

[Anonymous No.7034820]

>>7034808
now I must know how a croc cock looks like thanks anon I hate you

[Anonymous No.7034868]

>>7034085

[Anonymous No.7034883]

What would you recommend? I wanna make my stuff look less flat, ideally I wanna try to learn form, I do draw shapes but I don’t really have a “feel” form. I also wanna try to draw from different angles.

[Anonymous No.7034885]

>>7034883
Dynamic Sketching

[Anonymous No.7034888]

>>7034883
same as ever anon, draw geometric primitives from every possible angle and draw organic shapes (preferably from life)

[Anonymous No.7034893]

>>7034888
Any good references for that?

[Anonymous No.7034898]

>>7034893
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/john-asaro-collection-4379dcb0e323441692470411b6823f57

[Anonymous No.7034900]

[Anonymous No.7034903]

>>7034883
If cartoon dudes is the goal I've heard How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way is a good alternative to the usual beginner figure books

[Anonymous No.7034909]

>>7034900
Cute

[Anonymous No.7034910]

>>7034898
My biggest problem is that I just don’t know how to apply these shapes to normal poses. It will always look flat I just wanna do different poses than my flat stuff.

[Anonymous No.7034914]

>>7034910
You're in the very early stages of how skilled you are at drawing. Biggest thing for you is mileage, consistency and accuracy.

Learning how to draw basic shapes and construct 3 dimensional cubes, cylinders and spheres in different angles will enable you to make different poses. But it's a skill that's too far ahead of were you are now and not something you'll be good at doing first try.

I personally think the best thing for the absolute beginner to learn is accuracy, line control and drawing very simple things like insects and flowers. There's a Krenz crash course on youtube I can link that goes much further into it if you'd like.
(ignore the meme on the bottom right, the image is otherwise correct)

[Anonymous No.7034917]

>>7034914
Go ahead and link that video series.

[Anonymous No.7034920]

>>7034917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw
You'll just need to turn subtitles on. Good luck

[Anonymous No.7034922]

>>7034920
So I need to learn line consistency and shapes?

[Anonymous No.7034924]

Any thing I missed or need to improve? I'm wondering if I did a decent job with the left leg (our right) from being covered with jeans to being exposed

[Anonymous No.7034926]

>>7034922
Line control, how to accurately draw an image (start with simple things, learn how to make a grid and box in the shapes) and basic shapes/construction of boxes cylinders in differing angles.

[Anonymous No.7034927]

[Anonymous No.7034934]

>>7034926
What do you mean how to accurately draw an image

[Anonymous No.7034938]

>>7034927

[Anonymous No.7034950]

>>7034934
There should be a link to download the books you need in the book general.
Look up Keys to Drawing and Drawing for the absolute beginner. Those two books go much more indepth on accuracy drawing.
Krenz's course also goes into it.

[Anonymous No.7034953]

>>7034950
Those 6 books in order are good for me?

[Anonymous No.7034954]

I'm starting to understand why people just give up on /beg/s.

[Anonymous No.7034959]

>>7034954
Because those who are blessed with talent never stay /beg/ for long, a couple of years at most. And those who are not... Well, there is nothing you can do. Some are born for the sole purpose of being miserable it seems.

[Anonymous No.7034961]

>>7034883
>>7034893
>>7034910
>>7034917
>>7034922
>>7034934
>>7034953
is this howie?

[Anonymous No.7034967]

>>7034953
I would just pick one, probably Keys since it's the best combinations of being comprehensive while staying approachable.

>>7034961
Well since he actually posted a drawing and is taking advice without writing paragraphs about ADHD I'm gonna say no

[Anonymous No.7035020]

I’m especially happy with how the ass in the bottom right corner came out.
>>7033882
Thanks. Your drawing looks fine to me, man. I like it
>>7034709
I like this a lot
>>7033912
Use refs and focus on solid figure drawing skills before worrying about anatomy. Basic construction like vilppu and Morpho simple forms. Don’t worry about getting any single drawing just right, work on getting mileage
>>7033945
Agreed
>>7034005
I’m not surprised by the reaction he got, and it’s possible he overreacted, but I don’t think he deserved the way some anons jumped down his throat. I think the crypto thing may have been necessitated by whatever monetarily-unstable country he’s in.
>>7034014
Nice.
>>7034029
You just know
>>7034092
Thanks
>>7034336
Great job, also what are double lines and why are they important?
>>7034410
Nah, they’re fine. Feet might be a little big for realism, but it’s fine. Good job
>>7034424
I’d give it a darker core shadow. Make the form pop
>>7034473
>>7034385
Looks good to me. It’s cool to see this stage of your drawings, imo. A full timelapse would epic once you do the line art
>>7034415
YES
>>7034481
>cheating
lol no
>>7034548
Based, GMI. I like your attitude and your drawing
>>7034619
Yeah, that’s good advice. You can’t paint what you can’t draw
>>7034640
Missed you
>>7034683
Looks good! Missing some skull and her face isn’t quite in perspective. Work on hands. Keep going based trad chad
>>7034724
Neat drawing
>>7034725
Whoa
>>7034772
Tell me about it. At least you can draw tho
>>7034808
Nice animal heads!
>>7034868
Not bad, fren
>>7034885
>>7034888
these are correct
>>7034900
Nice to see you again
>>7034924
Eh… rather than looking foreshortened, the leg (calf, really) just looks shortened. David Finch has great videos on foreshortening. Maybe her hair and especially mop head could show dynamic movement rather than hanging limply. Everything else is awesome tho
>>7034927
I’d find a ref cuz >>7034938 has a point

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7035026]

>>7034725
Wow that looks amazing, i thought you would make like your very own with some other character, do you happen to have the version without the guide? Ended pretty eerie and would like to have it.

[Anonymous No.7035047]

[Anonymous No.7035050]

[Anonymous No.7035051]

>>7035050
is that weed in the second panel

[Anonymous No.7035052]

>>7035051
Methamphetamine

[Anonymous No.7035059]

>>7035020
this dude been doing these studies and posting daily for over a year
word produced: 0

[Anonymous No.7035060]

When doing gesture, do I focus on speed or accuracy?

[Anonymous No.7035063]

>>7035060
why not both? do a bunch of quick ones, and then a couple of 5-10 min ones

[Anonymous No.7035071]

Someone mentioned last thread to use gestures and construction

I tried this link for the Loomis method of drawing heads, how is it? It's a guy from the era of China where everyone had yee-yee ass haircuts

https://medium.com/@ramstudioscomics/how-to-draw-heads-with-the-andrew-loomis-method-78f9d04ab132

[Anonymous No.7035072]

>>7035063
I'll be honest. I'm still confused as to the definition of "gesture" itself and can't figure out what distinguishes a figure sketch from a gesture

[Anonymous No.7035073]

>>7035072
Gesture is a way to sketch

[Anonymous No.7035084]

A manga artist inspired me to start drawing and I'm wanting to essentially mog their style. Assuming I'm completely brand new, how does learning to draw even work? Should I create some sort of reference mural of characters in various angles and try to recreate them by eye? I don't know how to explain it but something about drawing feels so much harder to approach in comparison to a more pragmatic hobby/skill.

[Anonymous No.7035087]

>>7035084
Read sticky, links in this thread, draw

[Anonymous No.7035089]

Learned the power of columns and facial patterns and now I'm seriously starting to level up
this 100 heads challenge is gonna be a cakewalk at this rate

[Anonymous No.7035099]

>>7035089
Gimme that reference
I want to draw her too
Weakness for a cute girl with a bob and a purty mouth

[Anonymous No.7035101]

>>7035089
You exaggerated her features in the most unflattering and unfeminine ways. Bigger, detailed nose. Way bigger cheekbones. Bigger chin. Caveman browline. She went from cute girl, to bogged bimbo tranny.

[Anonymous No.7035104]

>>7035101
It demonstrates that anon is beginning to get the hang of producing likeness
You can see the black line around her eye forms where he traced it to figure out the shape, he's gonna get better fast I can tell

[Anonymous No.7035105]

>>7035101
Each mistake he makes is an investment in future success
Every one of those details you mentioned is something that will directly contribute to him doing the same thing right next time, giving her a qt femme nose, delicate cheekbones, snatched little pointy babe chin, rounded browline, etc
He tries and he tries well

[Anonymous No.7035106]

>>7035089
>>7035104
>>7035105
Yes anon, keep doing what you're doing
She's beautiful

[Anonymous No.7035107]

>>7035104
>>7035105
Oh definitely. Don't get me wrong guys I don't want to spread negativity, I just saw some obvious issues and thought being brutally honest would be most helpful

[Anonymous No.7035110]

>>7035107
You did nothing wrong. No need to walk around eggshells, we're in fucking 4chan of all places.

[Anonymous No.7035112]

>>7035107
nothing of what you said was wrong, I dont know if those two are the same guy samefagging to damage control or a couple of pearlclutchers, but if you post your art in here is to get criticism and find out what you did wrong

every mistake is NOT an investment if you dont know that was a mistake

[Anonymous No.7035115]

>>7035112
I am the anon who jumped to anon's defense
You are quite right
Mistakes are valuable... unless you keep making them
I still see mostly cause for hope in the work he posted tho
Fact is we all have to draw abominable cavewomen before we are able to draw 11/10 goddesses. Sucks but it is what it is
t. sketchbook filled with countless thousands of hideous ugly girl feet

[Anonymous No.7035118]

>>7035107
Some anons are very protective toward their online friends. It's just human nature.

[Anonymous No.7035122]

>>7035071
Tried it again, I think I made the head a little too wide for the face here.

However front view is a lot easier than the angled view I find.

[Anonymous No.7035123]

>>7035118
Post your feet

[Anonymous No.7035124]

>>7035122
I'm calling this progress but Loomis head can only take you so far
It's a good system but overrated

[Anonymous No.7035125]

>>7035124
What are the issues with it?

I just looked up an online guide for drawing heads and the Loomis one was one of the ones that came up.

[Anonymous No.7035126]

>>7035122
No perspective is far easier than drawing something with perspective, of course. Doesn't mean you should be avoiding perspective if you find it hard, keep fucking it up and learning from your mistakes instead of just going "eh I'll just draw it from the front"

[Anonymous No.7035127]

>>7035126
I drew front side simply to try it out honestly

I found it easier, but because of that I don't want to focus on it too much.

Are there any other good methods besides Loomis for drawing heads?

[Anonymous No.7035128]

>>7035089
Looks like symbols for me, but if it's your goal it's ok i guess.

[Anonymous No.7035130]

>>7035125
Look up the name "Sargent"
He was a really famous painter who had an equally famous ability to instantly make you recognize the person he was painting just by getting the silhouette, shapes and shadows right even without painting their eyes, nose or mouth or anything like that
When you step back and really scrutinize his paintings of people a lot of the time they're literally just some shapes of different colors slotted together, but yet you know EXACTLY who they are because he got those shapes so right
Idk what your goals are, if you want to draw people and get likeness start with him. If you want to draw cartoons or anime or stuff like that then loomis is the way to go imo
Hard to give you good directions other than waving my hand at the horizon and saying "that way" unless I know where you're heading

[Anonymous No.7035132]

>>7033620
Who is Pawel??

[Anonymous No.7035137]

>>7035130
>Sargent
Holy shit you weren't kidding about this guy

But yeah I'm mostly interested in cartoons or anime, so I guess Loomis works

[Anonymous No.7035139]

>>7035137
What manner of cartoons anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T52UIiUtozA&list=PLnAI9peyZRkEwMES5DDl9-44M0S5vXXH1

[Anonymous No.7035140]

[Anonymous No.7035141]

>>7035139
Studio Mir's Castlevania style

[Anonymous No.7035142]

>>7035047
Is this ai

[Anonymous No.7035143]

>>7035141
A long climb awaits you, yet so does great power

[Anonymous No.7035144]

>>7035142
Looks like some kind of Helluva Boss/Hazbin Hotel OC to me

[Anonymous No.7035150]

Did some hands cause KtoD said to. Do you guys have any tips for making drawing a habit? About an hour is all I can get to right now, but some days it's hard to draw anything at all

[Anonymous No.7035155]

>>7034357
what is double lines and why is it important? because you sound retarded

[Anonymous No.7035157]

I think I'll bend the mop slightly to emphasise the tension. any feedback (not about the janky foot) would be great tho

[Anonymous No.7035159]

>>7034346
Nothing to be learned from anime

[Anonymous No.7035160]

>>7034346
>>7035155
>>7035159
Let's be honest, you're only after him because it's anime. If you don't know what a master study is then you are the fucking retard here.

[Anonymous No.7035162]

>>7035159
>most of /ic/ tards hate anime or weebshit
>if I say that I hate anime too they'll like me :)

[Anonymous No.7035163]

>>7035155

[Anonymous No.7035164]

>>7035150
get a book and force yourself to draw at leats one of their pages every day
I started this august with the bridgman's book, and even if I only draw a single page that takes me 10-15 min, drawing a little everyday its helping me more than not doing jackshit for a week and then drawing a couple of hours.

Try to draw more than one page for better results

[Anonymous No.7035168]

On the topic of copying out of instructional books, I have michael hamptons, how accurately am I meant to be copying? I know that obvious 1:1 is the best but that would end up with me spending hours and hours on just a single drawing.

[Anonymous No.7035169]

>>7034357
>>7035159
>>7035160
>>7034336
>did a study
>didn't learn anything
wow

[Anonymous No.7035171]

>>7035168
Isn't that book teaching you about construction? If that's the case you don't need to be 1:1 accurate as it's more about understanding how it works. Strive to be accurate but don't over-obsess.

[Anonymous No.7035172]

Work in progress
pls critique

[Anonymous No.7035173]

>>7035172
Cat comes out of nowhere, they feel like two different drawings put together. Work on the composition and visual narration.

[Anonymous No.7035176]

>>7035172
man I gotta reread Alice
cute drawing

[Anonymous No.7035179]

>>7035172
Cute!

I like the hair on the girl.

[Anonymous No.7035180]

>>7035171
I wouldn't say it's a construction book but it is very construction heavy

[Anonymous No.7035183]

>>7035169
You're dumb. Do you really think that 1 hour study is enough to learn something new? Go laugh at the idiots who copy Bridgman's entire book.

[Anonymous No.7035184]

>>7035183
>book
>singular
yeah, they're ngmi

[Anonymous No.7035186]

>>7035173
I mean, coming out of nowhere is kinda the thing of the chesire cat

[Anonymous No.7035188]

>>7035157
don't really understand what her other foot is doing

[Anonymous No.7035191]

>>7035188
It's under the skirt dumbass

[Anonymous No.7035192]

>>7035168
It depends on what you want to learn. If you just need to understand the anatomy it just needs to be accurate to what's being taught. If you want to practice accuracy then you want to spend the time sighting everything perfectly. If you admire the art and want to emulate the line work then you just need to understand and copy those correctly.

>>7035150
At first your serious deliberate study and practice probably shouldn't be more than an hour since every lesson is new and there's only so much you can learn at once, but try to fit in more fun drawing where you doodle and play around. Over time you'll increase your ability to focus on studying for longer periods of time.

[Anonymous No.7035194]

>>7035128
Your does, yeah.

[Anonymous No.7035197]

>>7035183
>>7035183
if you study for an hour and at the end you cant name one thing you learned, wtf were you really doing, brainlet mode

[Anonymous No.7035198]

Positions changed a lot throughout the sketch and I feel somewhat disappointed, especially for the gril. Fun though.

[Anonymous No.7035208]

>>7035188
it's meant to be similar to this. I think I may need to tweak the dress area around the lifted knee

[Anonymous No.7035209]

>>7035197
When you've been drawing for more than 1 day (like you), at some point you'll learn almost everything you could, and you have no choice but to practice, do you understand, permabeg san?

[Anonymous No.7035224]

taking a small break from studies to have a little fun.

>>7034552

thanks for the crit.

>>7034808

neat. I'd love to see some small features like scales on the croc or fur on the monke, but it looks like you succeeded at your exercise.

>>7034883

drawabox.com, particularly the lessons on forms

>>7034927

try holding your phone in front of your face like the picture. doesn't it feel kind of awkward to hold your elbow up that high? we should also be able to see the shoulder/forearm.

>>7035140

cute. I like everything but the Lois Griffin nose

>>7035157

this is a fun ref to draw from. your figure should lean forward more. it has an angle of like 30 degrees where as the ref is closer to 40 relative to the pole. further, give the pole a little bend around where the foot meets. it helps sell the weight and balance of the figure.

[Anonymous No.7035227]

>>7035122
You should study this method mainly with reference in the beginning, try to trace it over photos and draw your trace on the side.

Some resources:
Here is the best video about loomis:
https://youtu.be/1EPNYWeEf1U?si=uRm-qR7mq0vjYtDb

A more anime-like way:
https://youtu.be/GjiCQfCMXow?si=HXV-bpPIUY14JitY

And a overview of some methods and exercises:
https://youtu.be/zrwCCj7tRcA?si=I5rIvBH7bBJnc6t8

[Anonymous No.7035237]

>>7035209
>acting like he's learned everything he can
>draws nothing but gay anime girls in a void
fucking lmao
kill yourself you clown

[Anonymous No.7035244]

>>7035237
Here here permabeg san, someday you'll be able to draw something that even you won't hate.

[Anonymous No.7035245]

>>7035173
>visual narration
>composition
Sorry for the noob ass question, but how can I accomplish/practice that?

[Anonymous No.7035255]

fern x stark uWu

[Anonymous No.7035264]

>>7035255
Left hand too small, nice colors nice lines nice emotions.

[Anonymous No.7035266]

>>7035264
Okie I can make it bigger, dats EZ

[Anonymous No.7035309]

>>7035264
part of the wrist is also covered up by the cuff, so it looks good to me now

[Anonymous No.7035320]

>>7034552

con't. challenging myself to do a bit more with my figures that laying outlining or laying flats.

>>7035245

honestly, you're already on the right path. do you read a lot of manga or watch television? there are frames or stills from media that sell an story. it's a combination of the figures, how they interact with the environment, and the framing of the viewer's perspective. >>7035255
is a good example of that. without any text, we can tell this is an intimate moment between two characters. are they sharing a secret, or is this the prelude to a kiss?

let's go back to your piece for a second. the girl is looking at the chesire, though we have no idea about her state of mind. we can't see her face, and her pose doesn't vie much information. maybe she's tentative because her arms are being held close in front of her, but that could be interpreted a couple different ways. what if she was leaning back a bit to communicate surprise? or her arms could be thrown above her head to indicate surprise - maybe she was looking for chesire forever and finally found him. there's a lot of questions you can ask yourself to make decisions like that. most importantly, you have to begin with the end in mind.

[Anonymous No.7035330]

[Anonymous No.7035344]

>>7035127
Google Sketchfab, you can view 3D models at any angle, draw them from reference at multiple angles. There are thousands of different objects you can study - from cars to heads to hands. The more of a struggle it is - the more you're learning.

[Anonymous No.7035349]

People on twitter who tend to have high amounts of interactions with jokey posts can draw very simple cartoony stuff very fast. I guess this makes them seem appealing and spontaneous. How do you make clean "speed doodles"?

[Anonymous No.7035368]

>>7034640
>cute pokemon
Ay, thanks. The drawing is too simple to do any actual critique, indeed. At least it looks nice.

[Anonymous No.7035382]

>>7035320
I understand, thank you for the thorough explanation. Sometimes my ideas do not translate well from brain to paper (or screen, I guess).

[Anonymous No.7035406]

>>7035026
Glad you like it, here you have it with the original resolution. Also you can find the noise I used here with some extras, play around with them I think they can be useful when you want to break the pattern monotony or to describe bright lights hitting a surface.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/ZScfptG/e9826507

>>7035020
How are you approching bridgman? is this your second pass? I've seen your work but the references look out of order, non the less good job.

[Anonymous No.7035413]

Another day, another painting. Are you drawing? Are you happy?

[Anonymous No.7035415]

>>7035413
not really to both

at least i can change one of them, I'll try to draw a little

[Anonymous No.7035417]

Would it be bad to use AI to learn how to draw better?

[Anonymous No.7035419]

bleep bleep boop boop -finding losersq-

[Anonymous No.7035425]

another bit of fun to take a break from hand and feet studies.

>>7035382

you're welcome anon. it's one of those things that you get quickly once you look for it. one last comment for your piece: all you lines are the same weight so it's hard to pick out the points of interest - chesire and the girl. as things fade into the background, they can lose some details. you can erase a lot of the texture of the trees and that should help with the readability. I should be able to pick out the girl and chesire from the thumbnail alone (like 25% zoom)

[Anonymous No.7035426]

>>7035417
What do you have in mind exactly?

[Anonymous No.7035428]

>>7035417
wouldnt it be easy to find references? AI can be shit when you want something really specific to copy

[Anonymous No.7035429]

>>7035415
Do it, you got this! I'm sending you sweet summer vibes, all the nice feelings, and hugs with no homo.

[Anonymous No.7035431]

>>7035429
Hey can you send some my way too?

[Anonymous No.7035434]

>>7035417
An artbook or a book will be better because it's already curated, meaning lower change of getting mistakes. But after having a solid foundation I would use it for color and rendering ideas.

>>7035425
nice love the watercolor shading, but doesnt feel balanced, in this pose the right hamstring would be pulling hard to place the center of mass towards the abdomen, thats why the torso is so stretched in the ref he is pulling really hard that feet backwards.

[Anonymous No.7035438]

>>7035382
>>7035425

did a quick paint over to show what I mean. hope this clarifies.

>>7035434

thanks for the crit anon.

[Anonymous No.7035443]

>>7035431
He gets a good vibe! You get a good vibe! SENDING MAGIC! Just draw or Draw to learn. Everyone is gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.7035444]

>>7035438
Thanks a lot! I'll be editing it for sure.

[Anonymous No.7035445]

>>7035443
Thank you, anon. Have a good one.

[Anonymous No.7035456]

>Sit down to draw
>Realize that best case scenario it'll be five thousand hours of dilligent practice until i can draw anything that looks good
>Put it off till tomorrow because if it'll take five thousand hours i might as well start working on it at a later date
>Repeat daily

[Anonymous No.7035460]

>>7035456
Dumbass selfcrab

[Anonymous No.7035462]

>>7035413
>Are you drawing?
barely
>Are you happy?
no

[Anonymous No.7035463]

How to get or make good poses?

[Anonymous No.7035467]

>>7035462
your pose looks tense, try that pose yourself and watch where the left foot points to, It will help to give a sense of relaxation.

[Anonymous No.7035486]

>>7035456
Just start drawing and stop whining. If it looks bad, try to see where you fucked up, wipe away your tears, grind what you need to grind and then try again.

[Anonymous No.7035488]

>>7035122
>>7035125
Please work through the actual Loomis book pls
http://alexhays com/loomis/
Or any other beginner book, keys to drawing, right side of brain, etc

[Anonymous No.7035500]

>>7035417
I'd say no. Usually AI art looks good as a whole, but if you zoom in there's lots of things wrong with it. You'd be drawing a lot of neonsensical lines if you copy AI art.

[Anonymous No.7035524]

>>7033577
i dont get it, if i want to draw anime girls why would i do so by learning to draw human beings the way loomis does it

[Anonymous No.7035534]

>>7035524
It doesn't have to be Loomis. Drawing boils down to the same basic fundamentals. Pick up a book and learn to draw form/anatomy/perspective while copying whatever art styles you want to replicate.

[Anonymous No.7035566]

Pray tell, may I have an opinion on these colors and values? Specifically the hair in contrast with the skin. Im making some readjusting on this chick's colors and I cant tell if contrast here is good enough.

[Anonymous No.7035577]

>>7033577
Before starting.
What is the first / if any mistake you noticed at first glance, even if it was a bit unclear withouth further analysis just give the general area of the FIRST IMPRESSION CRITIQE?
CONTINUED
Im still practicing perspective.
Is it more or less alright
Poses in perspective , as well as proportions in perspective, are they ok?

The back of the car is a bit fucked so i guess a car study is in order in order to find the right proportions of a musclecar

WERY IMPORTANT : Are figures proportional to one another

Is the car large enough to fit 2 people

Is the car in YOUR estimation enourmously too YUGE (based of the earlier pontiac trans am/ THE SCREAMING CHICKEN)
rember,
that american cars of that era are basically land jachts
THIS is not even the most apsurd comparison : https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1968_Pontiac_LeMans_%26_1966_Volkswagen_Beetle_(48798236146).jpg )

Still seems a bit too large to me though. Might be because i intentionally put bigger whwheels on it

Anything that looks too derpy
Any other critqe

[Anonymous No.7035585]

>>7035059
>word produced
Not sure what you mean. Are you implying I/>>7035020 have done only studies and no actual drawing?

Or do you mean someone I’ve replied to?

It’s fine if people enjoy just doing studies. If that’s what they like to draw, then they’re drawing for fun and that’s based. There’s nothing wrong with just grinding studies as long as you’re not in a situation where you feel like you’ve sacrificed drawing stuff for your own enjoyment. That’ll lead to burnout.

>>7035406
I’ve done a very little bit of Bridgman before, but then I decided I should do some anatomy study before drawing through his book. So I dropped Bridgman and picked him back up recently. I’m kind of approaching Bridgman less as trying to be a super accurate replica of his drawings and more as trying to understand his concepts/construction and steal em for my own.

And rather than a single pass doing copies and then a second, separate pass doing memory drawings, I’m doing a thing where I draw a copy, do a memory version, compare the memory version to the original, then repeat until I’m satisfied with my memory version. It’s basically a thing that some guy calls “cognitive drawing.” This is exhausting and takes forever, but it seems to be working to make me “get” what Bridgman is showing. I don’t know how it compares to doing a straight copy pass and straight memory pass.

[Anonymous No.7035608]

Fucking forearms, how do they work.

[Anonymous No.7035611]

>>7035141
Character design in Castelvania is so fucking good.

[Anonymous No.7035626]

>>7035566
I'd shade the hair a bit more to separate the main hair masses or use a darker base color and keep this yellow for highlights but it'd make a good portrait for a video game interface as it is.

[Anonymous No.7035651]

>>7035577
First impression the perspective on the car is more extreme than on the girl.

[Anonymous No.7035659]

Ready to ink…

[Anonymous No.7035663]

>>7035659
Very good stuff.

[Anonymous No.7035666]

[Anonymous No.7035668]

>>7035666

[Anonymous No.7035700]

>>7035659
Looks great, it might be worth to reconsider the way her flesh is getting squashed on her thighs though, it looks a bit too flaccid. Still one awesome drawing regardless.

[Anonymous No.7035708]

>>7035659
I agree w other anon. Everything else looks super good but the thighs bother me a bit. Maybe it's because both have the same outline shape despite being seen from different angles? Too parallel. Also like the other anon I'd say the fat is supposed to be squished, but it looks like it's falling into the thigh highs, it needs to be slightly firmer

Everything else looks immaculate and sexo, very cute face, very nice tits.

[Anonymous No.7035739]

>>7031952
I hope I improved it somewhat

[Anonymous No.7035755]

Bothered by the hands here. Left is the normal, right is -supposed- to have her left hand coming towards the viewer. Hand pose is meant to be "clawed upwards", like a wizard, excuse the messy sketch.
Not sure which one is better
Also, would appreciate any feedback on the overall composition here

[Anonymous No.7035768]

>>7035668
this one

[Anonymous No.7035775]

As a beginner, do you really need to time limit yourself when doing gestures?

[Anonymous No.7035783]

>>7035775
No, it's okay to be comfortable and avoid timers, just make sure you get your priorities straight and don't waste too much time on useless details.

[Anonymous No.7035784]

>>7035783
Thanks, will keep in mind.

[Anonymous No.7035795]

>>7035739

[Anonymous No.7035803]

>>7035795
I don't get it

[Anonymous No.7035805]

>>7035803
you dont need to get it :)

[Anonymous No.7035807]

>>7035805
But I want to

[Anonymous No.7035808]

>>7035807
something something ,boring composition, change the face slightly

[Anonymous No.7035812]

>>7035808
weird may of telling me that

[Anonymous No.7035822]

AAAAAAAAAAA WHY DOES DRAWING TAKE SO LONG

I swear I'm just replicating a single fucking face and it's taken like 2-3 hours so far and I don't even have the fucking BASIC LINEWORK finished (granted, this does include rather complicated curly hair that I'm kind of learning how to draw on the spot). Even just the face took me I think more than an hour and it is actually quite simple. I guess I'm just a perfectionist, and a turbobeg (this is my second proper sketch after dropping drawing a year ago and I was just beginning back then too).

I will only post it once it is finished

[Anonymous No.7035838]

>>7035822
You get better and know what to do with practice. Right now all you do is new so you need to think every step. With time some things will become automatic and you will become more efficient

[Anonymous No.7035843]

>>7035838
I guess. At least it's going well and looks good (so far), so it's not like it feels like I wasted my time. It's just damn, that wasn't what I expected. It's funny how deceptively hard things are when you don't know shit, you just go in "no biggie I'll just do this real quick" and then immediately you get hit in the face with reality.

[Anonymous No.7035844]

>>7035413
Is that loss on the left?

[Anonymous No.7035847]

I've drawn every single day this past month. Even the days I didn't wanted to I picked up the pen and studied something or did figures or something.

Threads dying and didn't wanted to clutter it up with my cringe blogpost. Also a drawing so that it's not completely offtopic. WAGMI brothers

[Anonymous No.7035848]

>>7035847
Inspiring booba post

[Anonymous No.7035850]

>>7035847
>WAGMI brothers
Wrong, i won't

[Anonymous No.7035857]

>>7035850
Everybody but this faggotIGMI

[Anonymous No.7035862]

>>7035844
Mushkhushshu at the Hanging Gardens.

[Anonymous No.7035868]

i like to draw stickmen :)

[Anonymous No.7035894]

>>7035089
>He bought.

[Anonymous No.7035897]

>>7035847
Based positivity poster

[Anonymous No.7035899]

Critique pls I have no idea what I'm doing

[Anonymous No.7035902]

>>7035099
Here you go bro, sorry it took so long to get to you
>>7035101
>>7035107
yeah fair enough, but there's a difference between being brutally honest and rude in an autistic way. Not saying this out of offense but it's not going to have others take you very seriously
>>7035104
>>7035106
ty frens :)

[Anonymous No.7035903]

>>7035899
Really solid!

[Anonymous No.7035904]

>>7035899
looks really good overall dude, what brush did you use for that rendering?

[Anonymous No.7035906]

>>7035904
I believe its one of the charcoal or pastel brushes from this pack

https://onehack.us/t/kyle-webster-brushes-1-000-brushes-megapack/202412

[Anonymous No.7035919]

>>7035899
Wow, good work anon. There is nothing structurally wrong on this, so this will be /int/ advice.
If you want to take this to the next level, you have to choose your focus, is it on the dress, the face or on the diamonds? Also, a good way to make this pop is to take something you forgot from the ref: how the almost black background makes the sillhouette of Marylin more noticeable.

[Anonymous No.7035921]

>>7035899
>I have no idea what I'm doing
>Aside from her right eye everything is great
FUCK YOU.

[Anonymous No.7035938]

>>7035921
The ability to copy doesn't mean I'm good, I can't draw a stick figure without a reference

[Anonymous No.7035964]

These are my blook balls from todays session. Thoughts, I feel like I don’t understand ears

[Anonymous No.7035969]

>>7035899
>>7035938
There you have it, work without references try something new, if you are out of ideas listen to a random episode of no such thing as a fish and draw something inspired by a fact.

Or draw something from here:
https://idlecanvas-wagmi.web.app/?mode=words

[Anonymous No.7035980]

just one of those days where you cant even a box for the pelvis

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7036001]

>>7035406
Great, thanks!

[Anonymous No.7036003]

David Finch says to pick a master artist and then study them.

What if my artist is Asanagi?

[Anonymous No.7036056]

>>7033741
what's the original painting? it's hot.

[Anonymous No.7036095]

>>7036003
I've actually tried studying Asanagi and realized he has some really bad anatomy issues. I mean bro, just look at her hands.
He also has a sever case of same face syndrome.
His gestures are really fucking good, and obviously the amount of images he pumps out is no laughing matter, but I would not recommend studying him if you're a beg, maybe if you're already int and above and want to learn the more appealing parts he creates but you'll pick up bad habits copying him. Speaking from personal experience.

[Anonymous No.7036102]

>>7036095
Thank you for the insight anon. I do personally love his faces and the expressions he pulls off. Do you think if I just studied from his more refined drawings (pic related) that it would be fine? I just want to draw shortstacks all day

[Anonymous No.7036107]

>>7036102
Yeah definitely. Just keep in mind to branch out and draw some realism here and there.

[Anonymous No.7036115]

>>7036107
I'm kind of a schizo and looking at real people unironically upsets me

[Anonymous No.7036144]

>Twitter artist tells me he used irl porn to do nude sketches and sex poses. Two birds with one stone
Is there any merit to this or was he just yanking my chain?

[Anonymous No.7036147]

>>7036144
That's a rather retarded question. If you want to draw porn then using it as a reference is going to help you.

[Anonymous No.7036150]

>>7036147
So if I'm absolutely green to drawing, should I just screenshot a bunch of porn and try to copy it?

[Anonymous No.7036153]

>>7036150
If you want to draw porn then draw porn, just don't forget your fundies

[Anonymous No.7036154]

>>7036150
try it and if it fails go back to grind fundies you're missing

[Anonymous No.7036189]

>>7034473
Pretty hot, but I think there's some problems with perspective which makes the anatomy look a little off, assuming you were going for a low angle.

Bare in mind I didn't use a reference and my lineworks quite rusty atm so don't pay too much attention to that but I think it's still enough to get the point across. I am basing the perspective off the breasts since we see a lot of the underside of it and the right one is much lower so I assume this angle is what you were going for? Also the perspective of the pelvis would indicate that too.

First thing I notice was that the head and shoulders were just way too far back compared to the rest of the body, I understand what you were going for and that it's stylized but the lat insertion is incorrect regardless, it looks like it's joining the top of the breast instead of the arm pit.
From this angle, you're not going to see much neck because the collar bone area would be covering much of it, as well as some foreshortening. You also wouldn't see much of a C curve in the spine from this angle. Let me know if this was useful at all anyway.

[Anonymous No.7036257]

I've been working on the Loomis method for faces

How's it look so far? I think I've gotten better at drawing smooth lines and making faces

[Anonymous No.7036294]

>>7035899
nice ai retard.
im not falling for it

[Anonymous No.7036304]

>>7035980
So...every day?

[Anonymous No.7036320]

How do i learn to draw like this?

[Anonymous No.7036321]

>>7036320
Draw dudes who are on over 1,000 mg of steroids a week

[Anonymous No.7036322]

>>7036321
To be fair one of those two characters is an in-universe uberroider

[Anonymous No.7036325]

>>7036322
Every fighter in Baki looks like they get massive injections of testosterone and trenbolone to be honest

I'd google pics of people like Ronnie Coleman.

Or if you want anime characters Superalloy Darkshine is based on Coleman so find pics of him and try imitating that

[Anonymous No.7036328]

>>7036325
Didnt the author himself straight up insert roider bodybuilders into his manga?
Good idea.
Also other than that any specific sources/books/etc?

[Anonymous No.7036333]

Also was mostly asking how to get shit to look so dynamic, not just about the anatomy.

[Anonymous No.7036342]

>>7036328
>>7036333
https://dragoart.com/tut/how-to-draw-muscles-11554

this is a good reference for drawing huge muscles

as for dynamic poses, quick google found this:

https://www.mastersofanatomy.com/fighting-poses

I'd also recommend looking up pictures of martial artists fighting each other and finding some good shots. This spinning elbow looks pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.7036348]

>>7035144
Probably the most scathing critique I'll receive my entire life. Ty anyway.

[Anonymous No.7036362]

•~°

[Anonymous No.7036372]

you are the only constant guys

[Anonymous No.7036393]

>>7035902
>but there's a difference between being brutally honest and rude in an autistic way
desu that's just because I'm new to this board/thread and didn't really know how to "fit in" yet, I guess it's a little less autistic and toxic than the boards that I'm used to. On other boards if I just speak normally people catch on way too quickly that I'm extremely left-wing and progressive and then I get dogpiled by annoying chuds, so I use slurs, memewords and autistic rudeness to fit in better and make people actually listen to me.

[Anonymous No.7036396]

>>7035651
The poster of this
>>7035577
I dont quite see it, my mental image could be clouding my perception
Is it a major or a minor missmatch.

What i do see now that the pic is smoller on my screen is
an extra thicc thigh,should be thinner due to the angle.
and a fiew non matching lines on the car. Not majorly, they more or less flow in a similar direction.

Do the figures look proportionally bigger/smoller depending on distance

[Anonymous No.7036410]

>>7036393
I have never read something more autistic.

[Anonymous No.7036444]

new bread

>>7036442
>>7036442
>>7036442

[Anonymous No.7036521]

>>7036189
I wish I read this sooner since I’ already inking the lineart. I appreciate your feedback but I think you exaggerated the perspective in your correction, it’s good but is not the angle I’m using. It’s like you have the “camera” closer to the girl. I like it, but it’s a essentially a different drawing imo.

[Anonymous No.7037125]

>>7035089
What does it mean by "columns"?

[Anonymous No.7037176]

>>7037125
Columns as in the how you can create a column extending outwards from the teeth bones that directly line up with the front of the jaw and connects with the corners of the eyes
Facial patterns/proportions basically

[Anonymous No.7037266]

>>7036294
I'll take that as a complement, thanks!

[Anonymous No.7039207]

>>7033577
what do you think of this slab i've been making?