Permabeg Youtubers

[Anonymous No.6880898]

Does anyone know more permabeg youtubers? Both Embodied Josh and Mithrilda appear to have quit their journey. Now I only have Manga Mike Lee's preachy videos left to enjoy while drawing.

[Anonymous No.6880905]

theres some autistic pakki retard that has a podcast and somehow gets professionals on, forgot his name, i just remember him bringing up pirating photoshop when he was talking with an industry vet, it was funny and cringe
something studio

[Anonymous No.6880906]

>>6880898
>while drawing

If only that were true.

[Anonymous No.6880916]

>>6880898
buy an ad, manga mike

[Anonymous No.6880934]

>>6880905
That sounds great, it's going to be hard to find through.

[Anonymous No.6880942]

>>6880898
>mithrilda
Fuck where is she now? Her mathematical approach to art (only enabled by that soulless school she attended and volen ck brainwashing) was like a trainwreck you couldn't look away from.

[Anonymous No.6880986]

>>6880898
I'm not watching these videos, pose examples of their art

[Anonymous No.6880999]

>>6880942
>volen ck
What ever happened to this dude?

[Anonymous No.6881009]

>>6880942
She still posts on her discord from time to time, this is the last real life update i could find. It seems like she doesn't have the time and energy to do art while working and finishing her actuary exams.
I can't believe she picked Volen of all people to follow, does she even like his art?

[Anonymous No.6881016]

>>6880999
Planning his return

[Anonymous No.6881031]

>>6880999
He's currently in pursuit of art

[Anonymous No.6881054]

>>6880898
>>6880942
>>6880999
>>6881009
Im so grateful that these people exist so I can learn from their catastrophic mistakes.

[Anonymous No.6881059]

>>6880898
Found a potential one. Her progress is better than idiots posted here, but she only ever grinds NMA courses, hasnt poested anything original ever. Constantly shills for them and seems a bit autistic too.

https://www.youtube.com/@Claire.ArtMukbang/videos

[Anonymous No.6881075]

>>6881059
Apparently she's sponsored by NMA, I'm curious to see where her grind takes her, she's clearly gotten better. But there's no indication where she wants to go, it looks like she just grinds to grind.

[Anonymous No.6881079]

>>6881016
>turns out he was trip schizo and he will use AI to finally summit the peak.

[Anonymous No.6881088]

>>6880898
Istebrak

[Anonymous No.6881097]

>>6880898
Jazza
Anyone that just talks about others artists
Anyone that is a "teacher" and has not a single video showing their actual skill aside of simple /beg/ studies, like Art Prof: Create and Critique, I personally dislike these types because they are actual teachers at art schools, and even in my country I met people like these, the kind that never gives you a useful critique and can randomly shit on your piece and has a clear bias por certain styles and is only known as that person that knows those famous artists.
if you put anything art related on JewTube's search bar you'll be flooded with them.

[Anonymous No.6881116]

>>6880999
I legit wouldn't be surprised if he got into the AI grift, considering how absolutely nonsensical and blatantly misleading his courses and mentoring were.

[Anonymous No.6881156]

>>6880999
Isn't he at war with Putin or something?

[Anonymous No.6881195]

>>6881097
It's hard to get worked up about Jazza, he barely does tutorials and he doesn't talk about his art progress or personal life. He just pumps out art content for kids. I'm not sure if he even wants to improve his skills.

[Anonymous No.6881220]

Koolen . I will never understand why people follow her if it is evident that she has anatomical flaws.

[Anonymous No.6881231]

>>6881195

I feel like Jazza is suffering from demons we can't even imagine. He seems to be in a constant state of internal upheaval, crying, apologizing for starting a patreon. Before that he was apologizing and trying to reinvent himself because some random comment on reddit triggered him into rethinking his entire channel's direction. Then he apologizes for choosing to make things that didn't appeal audience members who left ten years ago. Combined with his constant, violent pivoting in every possible creative direction, I feel like I'm watching a rat in a cage slowly go stir crazy and eat its tail.

Funny thing is, I don't see a cage. Does Jazza even draw or animate anymore? Part of me wonders if this whole "I'm going to experience every type of creative activity" hyperactive phase he's in is actually an elaborate cope for the fact that he hit a wall with drawing and lost confidence in himself. So he's become a 'dabbler.' His energy used to be genuine, but now all I see in his eyes is desperation and confusion.

[Anonymous No.6881238]

Is this a thing? Just being ok and making videos and people want to see that?

[Anonymous No.6881250]

>>6880898
>Does anyone know more permabeg youtubers
Boro Dante

[Anonymous No.6881256]

>>6881238
I personally enjoy watching people vlog their improvement journey. Its even more fun when they fall for beg traps

[Anonymous No.6881257]

>>6881231
Being an internet celebrity is the most stressful job in the world.

[Anonymous No.6881266]

>>6881250
>Boro Dante
This nigger will do anything to avoid learning to draw

[Anonymous No.6881269]

>>6881238

There's a niche for most skill levels above basic competence. Less skilled or average art youtubers attract absolute beginners, slow learners or other hobbyists who plateaued at average and feel a kinship with them. Parasocial shit is all about finding something to relate to, so it makes sense. These okay artists are just out of reach, making what they do appear approachable and almost within the grasp of the average audience member, so they build fan bases of ngmis and then they all drown in their overwhelming sense of inadequacy together while pretending like they're going places.

Sounds familiar.

[Anonymous No.6881272]

>>6881250
That's funny, I feel like this bald dude is going through something similar as >>6881231 describes with his "I'm making a game" phase. I think he's more skilled than Jazza but he overthinks shit way too much.

[Anonymous No.6881283]

>>6881272
Both niggas are ai-shills, makes you think, huh?

[Anonymous No.6881293]

>>6881257
This. It's a card castle that will inevitably crumble but anyone who's ever hit a $500K payload (of which youtube takes $250K but the IRS still charges you the full $50K lmao) feels obligated to maintain that income level and end up destroying themselves instead of accepting it was a one time thing and keeping a cool head about it.

[Anonymous No.6881300]

>>6881293
>who's ever hit a $500K payload (of which youtube takes $250K but the IRS still charges you the full $50K lmao)
That's just sad.

[Anonymous No.6881311]

>>6881075
>just pay a cute girl to start a youtube channel about taking your courses
This is advertising done right.

[Anonymous No.6881319]

>>6880999
>volen ck

lmao this nigga is worthless, his art looks 100% AI generated even if it isn't.

[Anonymous No.6881374]

>>6880905
Pirating Photoshop is pretty based tho

[Anonymous No.6881506]

>>6881088
her blaming YouTube for her low view arc was pretty funny
the video where she complained got 10 times her average view but the view got back to 1k in the end and it is not algorithm's fault guess why

[Anonymous No.6881508]

Can we have actual links to some of the best perma beg videos?

[Anonymous No.6881509]

>>6881088
I used to like her portrait stuff but she's so whack in artistry and talking to her viewers.

[Anonymous No.6881518]

>>6881509

Istebrak scared me when I was a beginner. It was a strange kind of fear, like some primal reaction. She must have reminded me of a teacher that hurt my feelings when I was five.

[Anonymous No.6881519]

>>6881508
this
the "best" part is how hard he tries to be entertaining and puts lots of effort into his editing
it's surprisingly entertaining in a way
look at his near mental break down while drawing.
his channel is full of kino like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYzcpixoT-g

[Anonymous No.6881521]

>>6881506
I bet this was so much cuter as line art

[Anonymous No.6881649]

>>6881506
>>6881509
She threw a bitch fit over a fit woman drawing kek
But the tablet video...Was legendary

[Anonymous No.6881710]

>>6881649
tablet video? I missed this, what happened?

[Anonymous No.6881725]

>>6881250

award for most annoying name goes to -

[Anonymous No.6881731]

>>6880898
becca rand. another course grinder like mithrilda. but she dissapeared a while back aswell.

[Anonymous No.6881821]

>>6881731
meh, it seems like she is the prototypical designer-over-artist type more than anything else. you can tell in how she applies the lessons to her own work. she doesn't really aspire to grow in construction and fundamentals

[Anonymous No.6881850]

>>6880898
>Embodied Josh quit

it isn't a surprise, it makes me sad that he made so much investment just to give up, but my impression of him is that he is more interested in the life style rather than having something they wanted to make. that's not to say he has nothing to show for it though, I thought his art looks reasonably competent...

[Anonymous No.6882045]

>>6881649
>>6881710
Seconding

[Anonymous No.6882497]

>>6881850
I think a big issue is that he didn't really research his path forward and make a plan.
"Haha that's the first time I've ever heard of Vilppu!". He was wandering and using his time and energy in an unfocused way which led to a lack of improvement naturally

[Anonymous No.6882565]

>>6881710
>>6882045
>she gets a Cintiq
>iirc tablet came faulty
>she breaks it
>makes a almost 1 hour long video bitching about it

This is the video btw, isn't her first chimp out
and it won't be the last one but it's the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7Jivk-8C1o

[Anonymous No.6882577]

>>6881518
At first i tought that was tough love or some shit, but she's just a bitch
For me, she's the textbook definition of a Dunning-Kruger artist and a crab

[Anonymous No.6882586]

>>6880898
to be fair there IS progress
but maybe they should spend more time drawing than editting youtube videos if they want to speed up that progress

[Anonymous No.6882600]

>>6880999
He's in a better place now

[Anonymous No.6882610]

>>6880898

https://www.youtube.com/@moatddtutorials/videos

[Anonymous No.6882627]

>>6882610
He doesn't really fit the rest to me. The only reason he stagnated is because he switches to programming and music too much

[Anonymous No.6882630]

>>6882610
Mark's a genius and a great artist. He's the closest we have to a reclusive wizard in the modern world.

[Anonymous No.6882666]

>>6882565
holy fucking cope, she looks like the type of woman to destroy your ps5, put down your dog and steal your money because she thinks your cheating on her for no reason

[Anonymous No.6882672]

>>6881506
>her blaming YouTube for her low view arc
her suddenly sperg out Trump was funny as hell even her comment point that out

[Anonymous No.6882674]

This is just stalker vendetta teen thread right?

[Anonymous No.6882676]

>>6882674
Yep

[Anonymous No.6882845]

>>6882565
Ooh this video, I remember watching it atm but I didn't understand that much of English yet kek

These were some of those behaviors that let me stop watching her content

>>6881518
Idk if I felt scared about her, but you can give good critique without insulting the intelligence of your students. Even knowing how much she charged for private mentoring

[Anonymous No.6882847]

>>6880898
I wouldn't say Trent Kaniuga himself, but his discord is full of permabeg faggots.

[Anonymous No.6882870]

>>6882847
He is very skilled in his own thing. His style is adorable, just maybe not his Warcraft work.

[Anonymous No.6882896]

>>6882672
An artist sperging about politics never fails to amuse me
>>6882845
People are paying her to get shat on
Also, it had a video where she told to not blend with the airbrush and instead, just use the blending tool

[Anonymous No.6882928]

>>6882577

Yeah, now that I'm older and more experienced (also rewatched some her videos last night) I think the fear I felt was probably a gut reaction to her mean and arrogant way of bulldozing student work. She has a way of acting flabbergasted and offended that her beg followers are making beg mistakes and I'm not sure what it's in aid of.

Weirdly enough, I don't like the hug box way of learning anymore and actually enjoy being shat on by better artists, especially if they're just senselessly cruel and mean about it (I don't know, I think it's funny.) Istebrak wasn't funny though, she was just mean. Guess I might have liked her more if I had discovered her 8 years later than I did when I grew a thicker skin.

[Anonymous No.6882964]

>>6880942
She didn’t really seem like a disaster to me. Art was a side thing for her from the beginner. Obviously it would be insane or leave consulting or whatever high paying job she’s in to do art full time.
It makes me anxious but as much as I wanted to peruse art it’s not not possible for me so I had to pick practicality over passion.
I guess I just see myself in her.

[Anonymous No.6882972]

>>6880898
If you look up comic art you constantly see "tutorials" by this Dr Rocke or something and he's def a permabeg.

[Anonymous No.6883095]

>>6880999
His website was last updated two months ago.

[Anonymous No.6883102]

>>6882847
Trent's the kind of guy who would do better if he just focused on showing us his studio work than trying to "teach".

[Anonymous No.6883155]

>>6882964
> it would be insane or leave consulting or whatever high-paying job she’s in to do art full time.
but she did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nswo8KfW4Po
granted she probably got another job easily after quitting the art school so it is a small setback for her life of getting a high-paying job with her BF and retired at 35-40 yo

[Anonymous No.6883244]

>>6882928
I mean, she shouldn't be doing critiques at all, just take a look at her portfolio

[Anonymous No.6883402]

>>6883244
She is good at doing portraits…and that’s it. Istebrak hyperffocuses on realistic portraits. It’s the only thing she knows

[Anonymous No.6883719]

>>6883402
If portrait means a thousand of unfinished grayscale heads floating in the void, yes she is good.

[Anonymous No.6883784]

There was this black guy forget his name, that did the whole "I'm learning art follow along and let's learn together!" Schtick, but after a while pivoted to doing tiktok drama vids after one of is art community drama vids did well.
He reached like a mil subs or something crazy like that.
He even had a video where he went on here to learn how to paint like Ruan Jia or whatever

[Anonymous No.6884026]

>>6881519
lel
this is your mind on loomis

[Anonymous No.6884631]

>>6881009
>working out, physical therapy, psych therapy, bulding new habits
These permabeg will do anything other than draw huh

[Anonymous No.6884634]

>>6883719
That’s why I ended up abandoning her teachings. Unless you want to draw grey saddle portraits of ever…she is terrible

[Anonymous No.6884636]

>>6883784
The only guy that successfully made it that way is Pikat.

[Anonymous No.6884641]

>>6882674
sup Istebark

[Anonymous No.6884670]

>>6883784
D'Angelo Wallace ?
I mean he started pop up because he BTFO Holly Brown tracing drama
he did art community drama while doing "some" art videos like the Ruan Jia video
clearly, it is a drama channel from the beginning
now Mohammed Agbadi probably fits your description better now

[Anonymous No.6884766]

>>6882610
I feel like this guy is an example of do as I say not as I do, he has interesting takes on some things.
I was so dissapointed when I saw his actual art though, still a cool dude despite his skills.

[Anonymous No.6884819]

what are your thought on gawx art? he has been doing doodles from a long time ago. I like his videos.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gawx

[Anonymous No.6884857]

>>6881519
goddammit man this was painful to watch

[Anonymous No.6884859]

>>6884819
I tried watching one vid but couldn't stand it.
"I Finished A Sketchbook in 24 Hours" and it was nauseatingly edited I scrubbed through it to see him drawing and gave up.

[Anonymous No.6884871]

>>6881519
First minute of the video when he busts loomis out for his anime girl copy I could already sense the clusterfuck about to come, because I went through that as well and it doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.6884879]

>>6880898
there was one person but I forget his handle, i think he pivoted to making essays about art, kinda like solar sands
I remember one comment that was like "your art is bad but you have a good thought process" lol. If the thought process he follows lead him to that, of what use was the thought process?

[Anonymous No.6884891]

>>6881519
he can't feel the form baka

[Anonymous No.6884892]

>>6882565
dare I say, god forgive me but I can fix her

[Anonymous No.6884898]

>>6884879
Based Chigurh quoter

[Anonymous No.6884905]

>>6882610
his art isn't fantastic but he has great advice and philosophy.
perhaps just has no desire to expand his art skills further, (or maybe just has poor taste, arguably the hardest burden to carry)

[Anonymous No.6884913]

>>6884905
where did you see his art? The stuff he has on deviantart is like 12 years old, and all the youtube stuff is just sketches

[Anonymous No.6884923]

>>6884913
i'm not sure, i think i searched around the interwebz using one of his aliases and found some of the twitter alternatives hes tried using over the years. the art i saw was from around 4 or 5 years ago i guess, it was kind of weird anime blob coomer stuff

[Anonymous No.6884948]

>>6884913
https://moatdd.tumblr.com/
pig disgusting

[Anonymous No.6884951]

>>6884948
this is what the brain of techbros creates, after all is said and done, after all the bullshit and drivel and "philosophy" videos, this is the peak of their creativity
stiff, lifeless, idea-less, overloaded with coomersim yet completely sexless, unintelligible, possibly one of the worst drawings i've ever seen

[Anonymous No.6884973]

>>6881220
She reminds me of those dark times where I would only do busts because I sucked at figure drawing.
Tho I was way worse and only did black and white sketches

[Anonymous No.6885058]

>>6881088
Some of her fixes are so bad, the original artwork wasn't flawless, but instead of adressing the perspective/anatomy flaws she just hyperfocuses on trying to introduce dramatic lighting, to the point where you can't even tell what's going on anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIkm0IteTm0

Her videos on concept art and "how to create riot splashes" are also pretty cringe, since she doesn't have any expertise in those areas.

[Anonymous No.6885210]

>>6884951
he isn't an AIfag though

[Anonymous No.6885215]

I never watch art youtubers because it contaminates your soul.

[Anonymous No.6885241]

>>6885058
grim, she sucked all the life out of that painting. I'm not saying that you shouldn't light direct it but she really went off the rails with the palette and all the generic evil gay colors eating away any interesting bits of the character.

[Anonymous No.6885274]

>>6880898
>Watching other people draw instead of actually drawing
Just draw.

[Anonymous No.6885300]

>>6885058
before and after

[Anonymous No.6885336]

>>6885300
>over-rendering an already polished turd
oof

[Anonymous No.6885345]

>>6881519
this is like someone filming an embrassment moment of his life and trying to turn it into edu-tainment
I am pretty sure everyone (including myself) who tries to draw and dissect anime went through this but jesus.

[Anonymous No.6885346]

>>6885336
>polished turd
It's called finishing a piece. Granted it's obviously not perfect, but what's with this board's attitude of "never ever finish your sketches"?

[Anonymous No.6885352]

>>6885300
gum gum foreshortening pistol

[Anonymous No.6885354]

>>6885346
there's a difference between "finishing a drawing" and "using rendering as a desperate attempt to salvage a disastrous piece that should have been scraped in the first place i.e. polishing a turd", and this is clearly the latter.

[Anonymous No.6885355]

>>6881519
whats the too cringe didnt watch?

[Anonymous No.6885358]

>>6881519
i prefer this one where he gets filtered by a fucking ellipse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-Ccl8QrCh4

[Anonymous No.6885360]

>>6885355
your typical /beg/ trying to apply loomis head over anime and failing to even trace the damn thing correctly, with easy listening music in the background and some cringe commentary

[Anonymous No.6885376]

>>6885358
>all the circles/eclipses he drew are fundamentally flawed and he kept working on them
>can't freehand a short straight line
>copy and pasting his own flawed line to avoid drawing another
painful

[Anonymous No.6885394]

so what's the biggest mistake they make? just doing everything besides drawing enough? Being afraid of failure? I only watched a few minutes but a lot of what they say seems pretty typical.

[Anonymous No.6885402]

>>6885394
>so what's the biggest mistake they make? just doing everything besides drawing enough? Being afraid of failure?
They are too desperate for attention.
nobody, not even nodraw normalfags wants to see a /beg/ struggle through basic shit with zero improvement for months/years.
If you are putting your time into editing videos and "building a discord community" you are not spending the time into art and you will never get good unless you are actually talented, and most people aren't.

[Anonymous No.6885437]

>>6885394
uncreative
like, literally. no good ideas
have never seen a creative art-tuber, the algorithm kinda won't allow it
it's 100% cum art, wannaba riot splash art, and perpetual course-takers with no ideas

[Anonymous No.6885472]

>>6885358
man, that was miserable to watch.

[Anonymous No.6885524]

>>6885376
He copied them because they were units of measurement. He can't draw half an inch without fucking up, no shot is he gonna get a consistent distance to measure with.

[Anonymous No.6885585]

>>6881519
https://youtu.be/IpxiicC2AVE?si=fVEFEcXeCKfFG0pi
did this thread get deleted from the archive?

[Anonymous No.6885706]

>>6885358
You made me remember that one guy in /asg/ who would keep despairing that he couldn't draw good spheres for loomising.

[Anonymous No.6885716]

>>6885585
We’re a nasty bunch of people, arent we? The dude was on the verge of tears the whole video

[Anonymous No.6885732]

>>6885716
I'm surprised of Cosmo didn't rope himself after seeing the threads about him on /v/

[Anonymous No.6885790]

>>6885716
At least people were honest in here, they tell the truth and truth often hurts people, but its miles better than a fake constant praising on social media. Just take a look at his utube comments for example. He's wrong when he said that utube comments helped him in drawing. Constant praising and soft words wont bring people anywhere.

[Anonymous No.6885808]

>>6885716
Don't give in to self-awareness, faggot, it's the path to success, and you don't want to succeed. Embrace the hate, embrace your self-righteous anger and petty indignation over your fate as a permabeg crab. None of us will will ever film ourselves failing at art and have the gall to put it up on the largest mainstream platform on the internet for everyone to see and judge, and you know why? Because we're better. We're better than those retarded fucks. We're not trapped in a downward spiral of our own making, we're not tormented by our own fears and insecurities, look at this dipshit making a fool of himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h4-2HRHaHI

You want to be that guy? Keep your head down and keep punching up, it's all you're ever going to do in life.

[Anonymous No.6885932]

>>6885585
What is his channel even supposed to be for? It looks like he is just self sabotaging and putting it out for the entire world to see.

[Anonymous No.6885941]

i always admire these guys for the balls it takes to do tutorials while being this shit

[Anonymous No.6885944]

>>6885941
it worked for jazza

[Anonymous No.6886046]

>>6885932
guy craves attention but his drawings aren't good enough to get him that and he knows it, those videos are the result.

[Anonymous No.6886239]

>>6885585
there are dozens of meaningless insults in that thread. But he singled this out as most hurtful. why? Because it is the truth and it hits hard
He has been doing this for 5 fucking years someone NEED to tell him the truth
he used to do a "road to Riotgame" where he just post a video with just 2-3 page worth of sketches PER video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upL9AeZoMgg&list=PLl3Rfx8icnAuELoJVBt-CR-fgjrH8m_ih&index=15

[Anonymous No.6886262]

>>6886239
he's so much more handsome with short hair

[Anonymous No.6886272]

>>6886239
>leagueloving retard and /vt/simp
yikes
looking through his socials it looks like he might have given up entirely or he finally figured out that wasting his time making shitty videos like this isn't actually helping him improve.
for his own sake I hope it's the latter.

[Anonymous No.6886353]

>>6880942
Asian girls with big round glasses.

[Anonymous No.6886386]

>>6886272
He became a father and got a job at roblox doing something, pretty sure not art related tho iirc

[Anonymous No.6886392]

>>6885210
he's a programmer

[Anonymous No.6886425]

>>6886386
good for him I guess, he will have his hands full for more than a decade and it's not like he's putting much time into drawing anyways.

[Anonymous No.6886501]

>>6885941
Ngl I wonder what it's like to be this confident
>isn't a pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEB3zYhlUU4
>hasn't made a single manga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7CZ0n9Z-P8
>art speaks for itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo18ulRHUsU

[Anonymous No.6886857]

>>6886239
>>6885585
You shit on him but pic related has been at it for likely decades and he's still a permabeg. The only things he knows about is Corel Painter itself, but that's pretty much it.

[Anonymous No.6886916]

>>6886501
You can just tell this guy is one of those people who grind poses and fundies all day but is too pussy to move beyond that, all his finished drawings looks awful.

[Anonymous No.6887161]

>>6885585
the archives weren't archiving anything for a year long period during the pandemic. Both warosu and fireden were down, but warosu is back

[Anonymous No.6887733]

>>6885808
>We're not trapped in a downward spiral of our own making
yes you are idiot you literally just claimed introspection is a bad trait

[Anonymous No.6887745]

>>6886857
This guy is a professional tablet reviewer, not an illustrator. You cant really criticize him for that

[Anonymous No.6887750]

>>6880898
I know technically, he's made it but I can't look at his art and not feel like Trent is still a beg who was able to encase himself in a layer of 'pro', somehow. Maybe it's just my hatred of blizzard type art, although I kinda like the guy and his 'the dude' persona. It's not like he's giving bad advice either, but I just can't see his art and think 'PRO'.

If I wanted to and truly applied myself, I could reach and probably surpass his level (which in a way would not really be an impressive feat), I'm just voluntarily stuck in an artistic purgatory of my own device, the kind that feeds itself. But enough of me, how do you guys feel about Trent?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjWf-NPCZSM&ab_channel=TrentKaniuga

[Anonymous No.6887755]

>>6886239
I am actually fucking terrified. It's been 3 years since I first picked up a pencil and my progress is about the same.

[Anonymous No.6887761]

>>6887750
His art is what happens when you don't do master copies and you just study from life and make up your own cartooning language. He can paint and draw form, but his cartoons look like ass

[Anonymous No.6887765]

All Blizzard artists are just Madureira clones. They're not hired because of their own artistic vision, they're hired for being able to draw three versions of a new orc in Madureira's style in under 2 hours.

[Anonymous No.6887769]

>>6887750
>>6887761
>invent your own style
>"REEEEEEEEEEE"
It's mid at worst, totally not fitting the thread.

[Anonymous No.6887775]

>>6887750
i like trent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09mheiQIock&ab_channel=TrentKaniuga

[Anonymous No.6887781]

I am sure some /begs/ here will see this thread and will feel demotivated because their progress has also been lackluster for years, so hear me out:

All of those people would improve vastly if they would be forced to do long drawings (10h or more) from life. I don't see a lack of talent, but a lack of focused, finished long projects. The sketching is important, but that weird overthinking and this strange STEM mindset of learning and trying to rationlize everything in video format is killing them. What they need is to sit down, borrow a cast and do the best drawing of it they can do and spend around 20 hours on it. I am not even talking about the idiotic sight sizer crap, but the lack of long, careful drawings is what is holding them back. Get a skull and do several 2-4h drawings and move up to drawing a friend or family member for at least an hour. Digital is a great medium, but before its existence, it was almost impossible to not do the obvious thing: You need to try to create an illusion on paper of something you see in real life - as best as you can, over and over. They sit infront of this screen, overthink all these concepts and forget to do the obvious. You need to create an illusion. Why worry about these weird elipse exercises if you haven't even drawn a believable representation of the coffee cup right in front of you?

[Anonymous No.6887783]

>>6887769
it's terrible, trent. There are many anons in the /beg/ thread who make more appealing art

[Anonymous No.6887797]

>>6887750
>If I wanted to and truly applied myself, I could reach and probably surpass his level
>>6887750
>I'm just voluntarily stuck in an artistic purgatory of my own device
lmao what mental ilness is this mate? like youre an artistic volcel

[Anonymous No.6887798]

>>6887755
>It's been 3 years since I first picked up a pencil
what the fuck do you expect

[Anonymous No.6887799]

>>6881519
Kek, the tracing part reminds me of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSGEzpkgsu0&t=44s

[Anonymous No.6887806]

>>6887797
>like youre an artistic volcel

Heh, aren't we all, Jack? *does fancy tricks with a switchblade using one hand while lighting a cigarette with the other*

[Anonymous No.6887827]

>>6887781
Even ignoring any specific exercises that could be done, shit like:
>They sit infront of this screen, overthink all these concepts and forget to do the obvious. You need to create an illusion.
Is a critical failing. EmbodiedJosh especially, despite having started on paper, gets so caught up in his efforts to recall all the techniques he's seen/read about and trying to correct every single line he draws in Photoshop it's ridiculous. Much of his digital drawing time is spent spinning his wheels in the mud about what he's trying to draw instead of just fucking drawing what he sees. It makes me wonder if he could've benefited from being told to close Photoshop and open MS Paint.

[Anonymous No.6887848]

>>6881506
Which video was it? I wan see

[Anonymous No.6887869]

>>6887827
I think the reality is that his type of practicing, while not inherintly bad, results in very low amount of concentrated drawing time. Doing a careful cast drawing is an easy way to get focused, productive mileage and it will get critical thought processes going when you are trying to push the drawing further than you are able to. What I am basically saying is that even though he put in a lot of energy into it, he didn't draw much at all. It's like he was lazy without being actually lazy.

[Anonymous No.6887892]

>>6887761
>mom I want battle-chasers
>we have battle-chasers at home
>...

[Anonymous No.6887899]

>>6887798
What even is realistic progress? The only benchmark I have to go on are those /beg/ to pro in 2 years freaks (and I know by now there were years preceding those 2 years where they were pre-/beg/ and grinding away before going public).

[Anonymous No.6888026]

>>6885058
She fucks up all of her paintovers, making the original look better in comparison
And in one of those paintovers, a person who sent her a drawing asked for the file
Got ignored

[Anonymous No.6888038]

>>6887783
>implying
You might find their doodles appealing, but most of people wouldn't say so. The huge swordsman is cool.

[Anonymous No.6888062]

>>6880898
The implication of this thread is that everyone has the same ceiling, learning rate or innate drawing ability, and that it is a matter of just finding the right learning path
Which is not true, just cause someone went a specific route and didn't get the results you hoped doesn't mean the route was the issue, not everyone can become a great artist, just by virtue of their genetic make up

This is why Art schools have historically always been elitist, and there is a barrier for entry just to even be considered a student, because it'd be tyranical to take money of someone who does not have an already above average drawing ability or the predisposition towards visual intelligence. Of course, selling hopes and dreams is a great business model for failed artists that later became teachers, who couldn't compete in the market against better artists or simply prefered a more comfortable life.

You could give Chris Chan a top elite education, and he would still be drawing the same autismo sonichu pics.
With higher intelligence also comes the emergence of new abilities of learning, people with a predisposition don't just copy endless boxing having faith that one magical day, a rupture will happen and suddenly they will be able to fully understand any angle of rotation and inclination, they understand it untuively just by watching a box rotate and having a few notions of how perspective vanishing points work.

[Anonymous No.6888063]

>>6888062
didn't read
pyw

[Anonymous No.6888094]

>>6888063
Translation: I feel offended by your post for putting into question my choices and my existence, which has no generated enough emotional damage for me to seek retribution

[Anonymous No.6888108]

>>6888094
nah i'm good
just learn to sum it up

[Anonymous No.6888117]

>>6888062
>The implication of this thread is that everyone has the same ceiling, learning rate or innate drawing ability, and that it is a matter of just finding the right learning path
That's not the implication at all, your reading comprehension sucks.
>not everyone can become a great artist, just by virtue of their genetic make up
The idea that technical skill is a measure of great art is a telltale sign of being a pedestrian art consumer.
Blaming genes is a typical excuse, and since you didn't post any studies or named any genes responsible for technical art skill ceiling, I'll assume that you're just making up folk science on the spot.

[Anonymous No.6888263]

>>6887750
He isn't bad, but there's this "concept artist" fingerprint all over his work, I don't see much love in it, same with Marc Brunet's art, which to be clear has little to do with their skill, because they obviously know what they're doing, is more that they're more clearly in the business side of art so it's all about efficiency and from what I see they latched onto that to create their style and brand.
You could expand that idea to other mediums too, but I don't know, this probably fits more into the S0VL/S0VLess category.

[Anonymous No.6888333]

JAZZA

[Anonymous No.6888426]

>>6880898
It's all fun and games until the Youtuber permabegs you

[Anonymous No.6888452]

>>6888263
When i was first starting out I thought people were exaggerating the dichotomy between "business" type artists who just wanted work and "artist" type artist who went their own way and were misunderstood by the world. Now I understand though. You literally have to warp your entire art practice to fit what studios are paying for. Interested in drawing big tittied anime girls? Good luck getting hired at Blizzard.

[Anonymous No.6888460]

>>6888062
Everyone can be a competent draftsman, anon. Perhaps not everyone can be a KJG or Craig Mullins, but everyone can at least learn to draw an anatomically correct figure in perspective. It's a matter of technique and practice.

Permabeg youtubers, on the other hand, make poor choices, are lazy about their practice, and feel entitled to skills that they haven't earned. This thread is more about their poor character than their innate abilities

[Anonymous No.6888482]

>>6888426
Just to be clear he called out JewTubers who liked to put out those kind of videos to hit their weekly upload schedule without providing useful or informative content.

[Anonymous No.6888484]

>>6888426
The thought of brutally tearing down someone's work for 20 minutes and uploading it for hundreds of thousands of people to see fills me with a deep dread in my heart...
Even if someone asked, I don't think I could bring myself to make a thumbnail with their art and huge text saying QUIT.
I guess it's probably just me projecting insecurity and how I would feel onto the artist, but I just couldn't.

[Anonymous No.6888594]

>>6888460
>Everyone can be a competent draftsman, anon. Perhaps not everyone can be a KJG or Craig Mullins, but everyone can at least learn to draw an anatomically correct figure in perspective. It's a matter of technique and practice.
That's not true at all, I've worked with 80 and 70 IQ people before (That's already 20% of the population), and they'd struggle to learn very simple things most average people don't struggle with at all. (Things like reading instructions, folding correctly, personal hygiene, dressing up, how to write and structure, how to send emails.. etc).

It is not moral to lie or deceive people, it is not moral to gain money by selling hopes and dreams. Although I understand the need for faith and hope, and my post was not intended to demoralize folk, but it is good to be honest so individuals can understand their limits and plan ahead properly, so they don't end up old, bitter and miserable.

[Anonymous No.6888598]

>>6888484
The art in the thumbs are by the YouTuber themselves though, tongue in cheek sorta thing.

[Anonymous No.6888606]

>>6888598
*Ok in some cases not, but it sounds like discord buddies injoke stuff.

[Anonymous No.6888762]

>>6881269
>Sounds familiar.
pyw

[Anonymous No.6888776]

>>6888594
90% of people making casts, furniture, decorative statues, etc. are sub 80IQ. And they produce gorgeous craftsmanship consistently.

You are your problem, not your genes, not your environment. You don't want to do what you need to do to learn to draw, you don't want to draw.

Fucking quit and stop polluting the pool you soulless golem.

[Anonymous No.6889373]

>>6888776
The average IQ of Carpenters is 96.8.

[Anonymous No.6889378]

>>6889373
>>6888776
https://www.unz.com/anepigone/average-iq-by-occupation-estimated-from_18/
And that's the average, you can expect the top Carpenteders (The few ones making beautiful craftmanship to be even higher in IQ).

There is nothing souless about seeking truth

[Anonymous No.6889380]

>>6889373
>>6888776
https://www.unz.com/anepigone/average-iq-by-occupation-estimated-from_18/
And thats for the average, you can expect the top performers to be higher in IQ even in manual labour fields.

There is nothing souless about seeking truth

[Anonymous No.6889383]

>>6888776
>You don't want to do what you need to do to learn to draw, you don't want to draw.
I literally draw between 6 to 12 hours a day consistently, and I love it. I am also not a top 1%er in IQ and understand I will never be elite hasn't affected my joy of art cause I genuinely have fun being alone in a room listening to music and getting lost imagining and sketching stuff that makes me cry even tho I am stoic everywhere else in my life

Just cause genes and IQ gets used by some to excuse their nihilism, doesn't mean genes and IQ don't matter. Truth doesn't care about anyone's ego.

[Anonymous No.6889398]

>>6889380
anon... wtf is this article, how can you fall for something like this?

Here's a real study on IQ (the study uses a different intelligence test) and expert performance: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6744885/
try to actually read and understand the methods used instead of just looking at the charts. You'll see the results are a lot less straightforward.

Peak the Science of Expertise is a good book on the topic, it might even help your art journey.

[Anonymous No.6889403]

>>6889398

'' In a longitudinal study that tracked chess players throughout their careers, we show that both intelligence and practice positively affect the acquisition and retention of chess skill. Importantly, the nonlinear interaction between the 2 factors revealed that more intelligent individuals benefited more from practice. With the same amount of practice, they acquired chess skill more quickly than less intelligent players, reached a higher peak performance, and arrested decline in older age. Our research demonstrates the futility of scrutinizing the relative importance of highly intertwined factors in human development.''

But that's literally what I said earlier, the rich get richer, poor get poorer. Matthew Effect. Did you even read the paper?

[Anonymous No.6889412]

>>6889403
Its like Testosterone and trainning then, you build more muscle shitting down with higher test than working out with low test.

[Anonymous No.6889438]

>>6889403
Yeah, but compare the effect size to anons article

[Anonymous No.6889527]

>>6886916
His poses aren't awful, but there is just this... messiness? to everything he does. Not his lines per se, but his approach. I'm not sure how to explain it.

[Anonymous No.6889577]

>>6889380
IQ is not a set-in-stone genetic trait, and it has a lot to do with how a person views himself, processes information, and critical thinking/problem solving. Low IQ is a self-perpetuating virus that is often learned from your family of origin.

There's countless studies on this. Students have been placed in "gifted learners" classrooms and performed significantly better than their cohorts of similar IQ (the students were placed in a setting that was supposed to be for higher IQ students only).

Listening to articles like the one you posted is a bad sign anon.

[Anonymous No.6889579]

>>6889577
fyi my iq is 130, but it's all bullshit anon. Stop letting people tell you that you can't do things that you can actually do. That's low IQ.

[Anonymous No.6889588]

>>6889577
None of what you said takes away from what I did, its just that confidence is also a factor, albeit a much smaller one (But extremely important for an individual). Spirituality is important, emotions are important, feelings matter. An 80 IQ highly motivated person is better than a depressed 80 IQ person, but motivation alone won't explain the gap of achievement, wealth and health that occurs between 80 and 130 IQ.

No one here has said you should quit art if you aren't top 1%er in IQ, you are actually projecting that onto others. (I know trolls do that to demoralize people tho).

[Anonymous No.6889600]

>>6889588
That's what I'm saying anon. Low IQ, etc. (even the AI discussion) all share in the aspect of reducing your own sense of agency. Having a lessened sense of self-efficacy has been shown to have a tremendous effect on someone's long-term success in life.

The gap between all those things from 80 to 130 is a result of life choices made by people, many of which are based on a sense of self-efficacy or lack thereof.

No one else can be confident for you. What I'm saying is fuck everyone else and go for it. That's everything in life: school, business, creative endeavors. Fuck everyone else and everything else. If you genuinely think you can do something, go for it and put your all into it.

And essentially I'm not disagreeing with you. But self-efficacy and building up confidence are key. Confidence is built.

[Anonymous No.6889603]

>>6886916
>>6889527
I knew a guy like him irl, he's the kind of guy that only adopts pro artist's tricks, gimmicks and advice without understanding them.
This guy acts as if practice by itself would make someone improve, but he's not consciously correcting over it, and you'd think having a teacher over his shoulder would help, but no, they just take their advice as gospel and do nothing else, the worst you can do for people like this is introducing them to blending modes, they will rape overlay and multiply and never get to learn how light works, and if you tell them to do that they'll be stuck rendering cubes and spheres and nothing else. He's doing this shit because that's what he thinks a good artist would do, and that's about it, so even the advice he preaches about flies over his head, that lack of awareness is dangerous, and he has been galvanizing bad habits without knowing it, this can obviously happen even to good artists (especially the ones that get famous), but he's an extreme example of having a blind spot.

[Anonymous No.6890066]

>>6884948
>wasp waist with thighs bigger than the body and cankles to match
Instafollowed

[Anonymous No.6890084]

>>6886857
Dude says he works professionally as an artists

[Anonymous No.6890093]

>>6889403
Then kill yourself and hope for better stats in your next life.

[Anonymous No.6890094]

>>6889588
Most miserable people are circa 120IQ because they're the imbeciles who went into debt for a degree but didn't suck the cocks to get a job that could pay for it.

Low IQ people have a higher incidence in obesity, but less trauma and stress related illnesses.

[Anonymous No.6890117]

>>6889527
He’s a beginner who looks likes like he hasnt been drawing for more than a year.

[Anonymous No.6890123]

>>6889577
My iq is 360 and I see things in 6 dimension perspective, I think its also worth mentioning that I have 10 inch dick and 6'4" height just like 99% anon on 4chan, anyway, IQ is a meme, to be good at drawing you need to draw a lot, to be good at painting you need to paint a lot, simple as

[Anonymous No.6890133]

>>6888426
i love moderdayjames' videos so much man. and you just know any clout shark he called out cant say shit back to him because they know none of the videos they've made are anywhere near the same universe as his bridgman series or his kim jung gi series.

[Anonymous No.6890215]

>>6881519
This guy is a total lost cause. He needs to totally start from scratch if that's what he got after studying for 7 years apparently. Do not take anything away from this video other than how NOT to draw and learn.

>what do you mean, "don't do what he's doing?"

Don't apply loomis to anime
Don't NOT read loomis, then pretend like you did because you were half-listening to a youtube video about it and then apply those incorrect, half remembered lessons to your work
Don't assume another artist is using the same "rules" you learned to guide their drawing, and then use that false assumption to reinforce those rules in your study of their work.
Don't sit there and fiddle with circles and shit off to the side for 20 minutes
Don't needle small areas of the drawing
Don't say to yourself "wow we got so far," when you've drawn a circle and 4 lines
Don't neglect pupil placement and make your characters look like they are staring at nothing
Don't not draw hands if your reference has hands in the composition
Don't "study" something by tracing it, especially if it's another drawing.
Don't be self deprecating
Don't be scared of making art
Don't be a needy desperate faggot looking for someone to handhold you the whole way through the art journey
Don't talk like this guy, ever. In front of anyone or alone... EVER

Finally, don't get off on being """self taught."""" No one is self taught. if you ever once got advice that helped you, you aren't self taught. Your ultimate goal isn't to be totally epicsauce heckin' self taught-erino, its to express yourself as effectively and efficiently as possible. learn what you can, trim the fat, and get gud.

pic related, I did this study in 14 minutes as proof you could be 10x more effective in the same time it took him to edit down an hour+ of struggle. BTW I never draw anime.

[Anonymous No.6890819]

>>6888426
Based
I remember catching that stream when he drawn porn

[Anonymous No.6890876]

>>6888426
Based as hell. I saw Fans of those bitching about it comments but it hurled them because he told them the truth.

[Anonymous No.6891062]

>>6880905
digital artcast maybe?

[Anonymous No.6891253]

>>6881231
>hit a wall with drawing and lost confidence in himself. So he's become a 'dabbler.'

very likely. I haven't watched him recently but he always did come off as pretty emotionally unstable

[Anonymous No.6891480]

>>6888426
learn from the best

[Anonymous No.6891489]

>>6891480
based

[Anonymous No.6891493]

>>6891480
>>6886857
on the Rutten and Ethan Becker
back when Ethan went on his ironic crusade on artist/art-youtuber only Rutten was the one who was salty about it. He even claimed Ethan stole his art/video idea when his idea was generic and Ethan was clearly a parody of his video. It was extremely embarrassing, he clearly has really thin skin.

[Anonymous No.6891498]

>>6888426
>>6891480
?? Why the fuck are they fighting they draw almost exactly the same

[Anonymous No.6891505]

>>6891480
Man this guys "haha dude I'm such a fuckin douche lol I'm a Chad bro dude guns and America and epic waffles xD" schtick is fucking obnoxious.

[Anonymous No.6891530]

>>6891505
800,000 people disagree with you

[Anonymous No.6891561]

>>6891480
>I FIXED IT
>minor changes
>ribcage still protrudes like that from that angle
huh?

[Anonymous No.6891571]

>>6888426
lol james seething bc sam mogs him in everyway

[Anonymous No.6892325]

https://www.twitch.tv/p00se2/videos?filter=archives&sort=time
This guy has been drawing the same thing again and again every single day for a decade now

[Anonymous No.6892430]

>>6892325
the dude is really skilled though, and who can blame him for loving thic thighs?

[Anonymous No.6892515]

>>6891493
>>6886857
>>6887745
fucking rutten
>beg tier art
>wacom cock sucker
>ai and nft shill
guy is a fucking joke, i'm surprised that almost no one mentioned him
he might not be an artist but that's no excuse for being an insufferable fag
plus he disabled his channel comments

[Anonymous No.6892519]

>>6892515
seems like only failures and genuinely retarded people swarm around AI. Glad his views tanked lol. 200 views with 200k subscribers is a joke

[Anonymous No.6892529]

>>6892519
yea, that happens a lot
the only exception of this rule is boro dante(at least for me) his views didn't tanked like aaron
maybe because he actually is an artist and not a cryptobro masked as one
that and not getting into petty shit

[Anonymous No.6893134]

>>6891561
I think he has quite a few videos of "lol, I'm gonna shit on that famous guy - lol nevermind he is actually pretty good", essentially a clickbait where he (probably) explains techniques used or whatever.

[Anonymous No.6893146]

>>6892325
I would be nice if he went to back to mecha for a day...
Seems he stopped painting in 2015. Grinding boxes/form studies has developed his skills in some interesting directions but he does seem stuck.

[Anonymous No.6893416]

>>6891571
if you actually believe this you're a tasteless retard

[Anonymous No.6893467]

>>6882610
>Zoomers are seething about Mark
Times change

[Anonymous No.6893709]

>>6882674
Fuck off Gabe!

[Anonymous No.6894001]

>>6880942
>Fuck where is she now?
Making my dinner with my cum dripping out of her

[Anonymous No.6894013]

>>6885346
The before picture looks unfinished, correct. But the after fix looks overrendered that honestly makes it harder to look at.

[Anonymous No.6894635]

>>6882610
What keeps this nigga going, financially? What does he do actually?

[Anonymous No.6894644]

>>6894635
he lives with his mom

[Anonymous No.6894763]

>>6894644

[Anonymous No.6894773]

>>6880898
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ

[Anonymous No.6894805]

He's not an artist but, imaging sperging out over basic art without even being able to articulate what's wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdIHaghTtn8

[Anonymous No.6895475]

>HOW TO DRAW LIKE [SOME MASTER ARTIST]
>slick editing to hide the fact that they don't know what they're talking about
>end result looks like /beg/ shit
Every time

[Anonymous No.6898232]

>>6895475
I hate this type of video so goddamn much

[Anonymous No.6898601]

>>6882610
He enjoys dropping hot takes about art way more than he enjoys making it.

[Anonymous No.6898956]

>>6884636
i like pikat her streams are comfy and actually learned how to draw

[Anonymous No.6899102]

>>6898232
I don't mind them that much because they're exposing me to good artists.
It's like /ic/, just gather the resources and ignore everything else

[Anonymous No.6899196]

>>6894805
What did the artist do to personally piss off this guy to the point he's critiquing "non-dynamic spaces"?

[Anonymous No.6899303]

>>6899102
Interessing insight, also it's not like this board has anything better to offer anyway

[Anonymous No.6899350]

>>6893416
Post his best work because all I see on his instagram is westoid voltron adventures with superman concept art.

[Anonymous No.6899901]

>>6891530
And? He's still shit.

[Anonymous No.6901523]

>>6891493
what a faggot kek

[Anonymous No.6903622]

>>6882565
>mfw

[Anonymous No.6903802]

>>6881519
>>6885358
so... did this guy give up? doesn't look like he's uploaded anything in 6 months

[Anonymous No.6903817]

>>6882610
>>6892325
The only 2 artists on youtube/twitch that you should listen to when it comes to learning to draw.
As close to zero fluff as you can get and actually good advice for begs.

[Anonymous No.6905262]

>>6885358
>>6881519
This guy is honestly entertaining to watch, even if he sucks at drawing.
There's a fuckton of big streamers that suck shit at games and they do just fine.

[Anonymous No.6905843]

loish.

[Anonymous No.6905970]

>>6905843
yes and for some damned reason, imaginefx shills the fuck out of her

[Anonymous No.6906228]

>>6905262
I like this analogy. Especially because those same streamers playing the "wrong" games still won't be successful.
This guy could definitely be a successful youtuber, and I agree he doesn't have to be actually good at drawing.
But his ideas for videos aren't working and he needs to drop the goal of being a great artist and just aim for content.

Maybe I'm wrong since I'm not one, but his editing seems REALLY good for that zoomer style to keep people engaged along with a humble and self deprecating attitude that is more rare for content creators.
And he probably doesn't even realize it because he's unsuccessful overall and people would mostly comment about the art and subject matter of the videos.

[Anonymous No.6906391]

>>6894805
>>6899196

>sperging out over basic art without even being able to articulate what's wrong
He's right though, it's funny a normie can spot bad design decisions by a skilled artist and at least indicate problem areas.

The composition reads really badly and there isn't enough contrast. E.g. what the fuck is that gargoyle doing? At first read it's confusing, at second read it might be sitting on her shoulder, at third read it looks like it's coming after her but then it should be posed more like it's descending rather than floating behind to protect her - okay, then if it is guarding her why is it watching the back of her head?

Not to mention it doesn't pop against the background, if it's as close to her as it appears it should have at least some of the same, warm rim-lighting on the closest wing (which would group it with the woman, who the gargoyle may be protecting).

If we really want to push the compositional autism, there's also too much going on in the triangle between the wolves and the gargoyle. Not to mention, the focal points being the three faces, the gargoyle's is way too close to the woman.

[Anonymous No.6906395]

>>6905843
in what way is loish a permabeg?

[Anonymous No.6906449]

>>6885585
lol he got called out so bad. Then he gave up.

>I'm not autistc
I think he might be in denial.

[Anonymous No.6907662]

>>6881519
kek

[Anonymous No.6907718]

>>6906395
don't mind him, he's just a beg that got filtered

[Anonymous No.6907767]

>>6886392
>programmer
a unity user who stitches together stock assets and copy pastes code from chatgpt is not a "programmer"

[Anonymous No.6907805]

lmao so much dos and donts and autism holy fuck, AI has rendered this perfectionist bullshit obsolete, if anyone wants muh perfect flawless art they can just prompt an ai to shit out a drawing and call it a day, just do your own flawed soulful drawing and be happy with it, art was never meant to be perfect

[Anonymous No.6907807]

who let the pajeet back on the computer?

[Anonymous No.6907819]

>>6881519
the worst part is that he learned all of this months ago while going through 3 CGMA class (like 700+$ each) with feedback
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjFtAPwkNN8
this is proof that he didn't practice what he learned

[Anonymous No.6907941]

>>6881009
going to therapy and "self-care" will keep you a permabeg eternally.

do you think all the good artists will spend AN HOUR and like 60$ on fucking therapy?? no dumbfuck, they're going to be drawing while you're giving some meme degree roastie something to laugh about with her friends later that night.

[Anonymous No.6908205]

>>6907819
It's kind of sad though to see anyone give up and delete his whole Instagram. It's something that happens even to good artists and intermediates. It's depressing to think about and I won't fool myself that it's impossible that it will hit me too someday.

[Anonymous No.6908444]

>>6907941
I mean 60$ to talk out your feelings to a professional isn't a lot if you ask me. And missing that 1 hour of drawing time isn't going to be noticable if it puts you in a better learning mindset for the rest of the week.

[Anonymous No.6908449]

>>6907767
sheesh, not even a good programmer eh?

[Anonymous No.6909342]

>>6891498
the video had an ironic title and modern day james did make a response that was just as firendly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca32fpXjFTw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWBbS49__3M

[Anonymous No.6910853]

>>6894001
lmao senpai i bet her vag is really good feeling

[Anonymous No.6911176]

>>6880898
most of art youtubers are permabegs tbf

[Anonymous No.6912215]

>>6880898
this dude
still got more commission than most of ic https://www.youtube.com/@luxvestraart/videos

[Anonymous No.6912218]

>>6912215
bonus
this is his home page

[Anonymous No.6912543]

>>6912218
>>6912215
the weapon, particles and colors look really good.

[Anonymous No.6912640]

>>6887781
pyw no one is going to do 10h+ drawings just because an anon who didnt post work said it

[Anonymous No.6912672]

>>6907941
i wish everyone here would take therapy so they would stop reeeing and actually draw

[Anonymous No.6914238]

>>6912672
they won't

[Anonymous No.6915243]

>>6881231
It certainly doesnt help having a dunning-Kruger brother who keeps putting g him down even though he's noe moved to AI himself

[Anonymous No.6915244]

>>6915243
That moment when the captcha knows I'm talking about dall-e abuse

[Anonymous No.6915587]

>>6911176
/thread

[Anonymous No.6917272]

>>6882565
my fucking sides

[Anonymous No.6920196]

>>6880898
>permabeg youtubers
all of them

[Anonymous No.6920337]

>>6907819
Does CGMA teach you how to draw anime girls?

[Anonymous No.6920736]

>>6920337
No one can teach you that, you you can only teach yourself.

[Anonymous No.6920781]

>>6881231
I’ve known wageslaves who absolutely hated their job, had an offer for a 30%-50% higher pay, and couldn’t take it because they were afraid they might lose the job during the trial period and then they’d get fucked on their house, car, etc payments
Now imagine that, but you’re a youtube eceleb solely owing to already being a youtube eceleb and the algorithm heavily favouring you as long as you keep churning out videos so the algorithm keeps driving traffic to your channel, said traffic making the algorithm keep driving more traffic
If you look behind you, you die

[Anonymous No.6920842]

>>6885358
There is no way this is real, right?

[Anonymous No.6920849]

>>6920842
Wait he has five fucking years of videos uploaded? Amazing.

[Anonymous No.6920871]

>>6881519
I think this has so many (You)s because this guy and this video are /ic and their problems in a nutshell.
>clearly want to draw some sort of highly stylized cartoon, namely anime
>study all the go-to instructional material, namely Loomis, but never actually study what you want to draw
>time comes when you've decided you're ready to draw what you want to draw
>find out that the prior instruction isn't directly suited to drawing the things you want to draw
>can't admit this, so
>try to brute force "apply what you learned"
>results aren't what you want
>have a breakdown and quit drawing
It reminds me of that image that gets reposted of the Russian guy with his huge stack of sketchbooks, landscapes, and observational figure drawing over the course of years, but his imagination anime drawings are only nominally improved.

[Anonymous No.6920880]

>>6920871
That's not even accurate he just doesn't draw. This video is five years old https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0qgctNW4AtE and it is a 12 minute head drawing tutorial where he copes himself into using tools to draw a circle, no wonder he can't fucking draw.

[Anonymous No.6920887]

>>6920871
you clearly didn't watch the video, anon. It's a lot more pathetic than you assumed.

[Anonymous No.6920955]

>>6920887
I'll add more then to how it reflects /ic
>belabor copying a single anime face, not even the whole drawing
>belabor building things up with strict construction as opposed to rough sketching
>constantly belittled himself and complains about how much he sucks
And to further expand
>took an atelier course, even though his goal is apparently anime

[Fish No.6920979]

>>6920955
He is just the art personification of dunning kruger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc9zVC0wfCo&ab_channel=EmbodiedJosh

>Watches a tutorial
>Tries practicing
>Doesn't get it
>Stops practicing
>Uploads his own tutorial regurgitating what he didn't understand
>3 years pass
>Still has made 0 progress
>Watches his 1000th tutorial
>Doesn't get it
>Stops practicing
>Makes a response video to his older video where he didn't get it critiquing how he didn't get it yet made a tutorial about something he didn't get in a new video where he didn't get it.

[Anonymous No.6920988]

Ill say it since everyone else is too pussy to do so. My anime drawings have seen improvement from my work in realistic construction. Additionally my realistic work has seen improvement after periods of mostly drawing in an anime style.
I think the secret may be to practice drawing.

[Anonymous No.6920993]

>>6886353
Asian girls with big round asses ;)

[Anonymous No.6921584]

>>6885585
Man this is sad, bro just wanted to quit his wagie job for something more fulfilling, something more interesting. He just wanted to share and open up a dialogue in a very small corner of the internet.. But crabs went and knocked him down.

[Anonymous No.6923857]

>>6920988
based

[Anonymous No.6924353]

>>6920979
Do you even doodle bro

He's like the kid that shows you his sketchbook and bores you by his overindulgent contextual descriptions but they're just geometric 3d shapes and you start wondering if it's worth flipping through the rest of the sketchbook or nah. so you decide to mog another cuppa from the teachers lounge bc they make it extra strong just to be able to make it through insecure whiny poseurs like this. Every single day.

[Anonymous No.6924355]

look at those failures, they chose to make bunch of useless video about their permabegness, spend more time on adobe premiere instead of actually draw and study.
take notes /ic/, learn from these failure youtubers mistake. none of them were actually making a progress while progress, no matter how small it is, are important. but look at these permabeg youtubers, they kept doing the same mistake over and over again, they have weak mentality in doing something that is fun (art) and never actually learn anything about it, and the worst of it all, they never finished any of their drawing.
Dont be like those people. Keep drawing, even if its look like a kindergarten crayon type of drawing, keep doing it. but dont be too harsh to yourself. know when to take a rest and when to push yourself, after all, drawing is a fun activity and should be treated as your hobby, but then again, dont forget about making a progress and learn from your mistake and be grateful when someone criticize your works.

[Anonymous No.6924540]

>>6908205
>It's kind of sad though to see anyone give up and delete his whole Instagram
nope I was there
he didn't use it to post art (maybe 2-3 work at best if I remember correctly)
his images are mostly photos of him, his wife and newborn child
good for him I guess but there is nothing sad about him quitting (which he still claimed he is not quitting at all)

[Anonymous No.6924561]

>>6924355
>spend more time on adobe premiere instead of actually draw and study
yea this is my main pet peeve with many art youtubers, especially beginners, it seems they spent more times editing and regurgitating what they heard in the colosso courses they're payed to shill, rather than actually drawing and creating art

[Anonymous No.6925112]

>>6880898
The problem with permabeg YouTubers is that they massively underestimate how hard is to learn to draw.


Unless you are a prodigy or a genius, getting out of /beg can take at least a whole year of hard work (assuming you are not a NEET). And also assuming you don’t fall to beg traps.


Of course once reality clicks in they fail

[Anonymous No.6925276]

>>6881519
i laughed so hard holy fuckkkk. the way hes trying to calculate every little thing kills me.

[Anonymous No.6925395]

>>6881519
The trilogy that we deserve, but not the one we need

[Anonymous No.6926204]

>>6880898
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOkMw7ZoigA

10 year permabeg

[Anonymous No.6926512]

>>6885394
The biggest mistake is honest to god, not having an art teacher.
You need someone to tell you "this is bad, and this is the correct, easiest way to do this thing"
Telling yourself "This part is wrong" and at the same time "This is how I'll fix is" is an oxymoron.
If you already did it wrong, by definition you don't know how to make it right
"I'll think through it really hard and rationalize the answer, I'll manifest the correct path through logical thinking" is the biggest permabeg wall to hop

[Anonymous No.6926588]

>>6926512
You’re actually retarded if you think this.

[Anonymous No.6926706]

>>6926512
NGMI

[Anonymous No.6926709]

>>6926204
10 years permabeg doesn't really count if she was literally 10 years old. At 20 she still has a lot of room to grow.. Though maybe she won't.

[Anonymous No.6926768]

>>6926204
She's gotten a lot better, I especially like her nature drawings. It seems like she has stopped doing studies after uni, which might turn into a problem later on, but as of right now she's not a permabeg. Or even a beg, her high school art mogs 90% of /ic/.

[Anonymous No.6927461]

>>6926768
she's having fun drawing, a impossible concept for /ic/

[Anonymous No.6927630]

>>6882610
I appreciate the dude for his odd ideas, but the guys not good he doesn't believe in the basics like anatomy & observational studies, even though it's tried and true, instead he comes up with these crazy wacky exercises that sound good to him but aren't actually applicable to how we draw. soon he'll come up with drawing with your feet for some reason instead of just practicing figure drawing and putting in your hours. he's like a fat woman that gives health advice.

[Anonymous No.6927642]

>>6881519
I wanted to see if I could do a study in the time it took me to watch this video and it isn't great, but damn dude this guy needs to unlearn whatever taught him to draw like that. I assume he's editing down like an hour of footage. I don't even draw anime.

[Anonymous No.6927740]

>>6926588
>>6926706
This niggas being wrong and going
>If I think really really hard and like, squint my eyes, I can manifest the correct answer
You are basically reinventing the wheel every time you rediscover in 2023 how to draw an ear or the correct space between the eyes

[Anonymous No.6927749]

>>6927740
>look at ear
>draw what you see
I understand this might be an impossible task to a mongoloid, but come on

[Anonymous No.6927755]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvwRe-beraI&ab_channel=MrDadmas

[Anonymous No.6927813]

>>6881031
kek'd

[Anonymous No.6928029]

>>6920781
Sounds like a horrible life. I'm glad I'm not a youtuber or hate my wagie job

[Anonymous No.6928694]

>>6927749
Yes, don't you fucking know on which fucking thread are you on
>>6881519
I'm not talking about the people that can draw and can paint and that can observe, they don't fucking need a teacher you utter retard, I'm talking about the other kind
why the FUCK do you reply to me with nonsense I'm not addressing
>oh yeah but the pudding is made of chocolate!
Why the fuck do I care
Jesus you people can't even follow a simple idea, my fucking god

[Anonymous No.6928698]

lol what a retard