/TRAD/ Traditional Art General

[Anonymous No.6583110]

If /ic/ is full of crabs, this is Davy Jones Locker

Post art you’ve made in traditional media for critique or feedback

[Anonymous No.6583111]

>>6583110
Pic related is why I don’t blend my paintings too much. They become this mush of paint

[Anonymous No.6583115]

this watercolor took me an honest 10 hours? It's one of my best pieces ever though

[Anonymous No.6583150]

>>6583115
It's cool.

[Anonymous No.6583316]

>>6583115
Gj!
Portrait

[Anonymous No.6583637]

>>6583316

[Anonymous No.6583721]

sloppy

[Anonymous No.6583774]

Based greasy "it for the money" hairy guido.

[Anonymous No.6583792]

>>6583774
thatsa me

[Anonymous No.6584023]

>>6583115
nice, but damn, 10 hours?

>>6583637
nice anon

[Anonymous No.6584549]

>>6583316
>>6583637
Very good, I love how subtle the eyes are! I feel the scapula should be more present, but I could be wrong. Did you use a picture as reference ?

I'm always curious if that kind of subject sell.

[Anonymous No.6584668]

>>6583115
20 mins tops. Use a hairdryer or radiator to dry between washes.
>>6583637
Like the highlights on this one.

[Anonymous No.6584901]

>>6583637
It's pretty bad, really. The hatch lines are non-sensical and disturbing. It doesn't feel like there's any reason for them, they're just for the sake of it. The signature box is just horrendous. The painting is mawkish, it's just horrible. The face and the chest , you could have done something with it somewhere, but the rest of it is a disaster.

You sort of get away with your landscapes, but not with this on you don't.

[Anonymous No.6585325]

Acrylic, 40" x 72" Canvas

[Anonymous No.6585398]

>>6584901
Is this better?

[Anonymous No.6585503]

[Anonymous No.6585761]

sargent study

[Anonymous No.6585830]

>>6585398
lol

[Anonymous No.6586129]

>>6585398
Yes. It's more obviously ironic. It does fit into modern grotesque portraiture that is quite common. I'm trying to think of the certified practitioners but I can't summon up any names. But yes if you did 20 of those that is a modern art gallery show.

[Anonymous No.6586145]

>>6586129
>But yes if you did 20 of those that is a modern art gallery show.
i know thats why i dont paint like that. so appreciate that i at least attempt realism

[Anonymous No.6586148]

>>6586145
Ok but this faux naivety, you've done it to death I'd say. You might get a badge for perseverance but, I wouldn't be able to stick it.

[Anonymous No.6586155]

>>6586148
>faux naivety
at some point my art is outwardly evil and material, and if people just accepted that the message behind it would be easier to digest. There's nothing beautiful about what I'm creating, it's sickeningly self-serving. Just let it be what it is.

[Anonymous No.6586158]

>>6586155
I did sort of gather that, but erm. It would have worn me down by now. I guess you want to keep going. See where it leads you.

[Anonymous No.6586166]

>>6585325
It's almost good. The delineation of the figure, I assume it is copied from a photograph. If it's a study from life and either way, it is well done. Her right foot, how it's twisted in is really good, her left hand is beautiful it's a little bit hard to imagine the arm connecting to the shoulder but I wouldn't fuss about that. In criticism, it's half finished.

[Anonymous No.6586183]

>>6585325
Yikes, those skin tones though.

[Anonymous No.6586227]

>>6586158
I find lying to peoples faces fun

[Anonymous No.6586360]

>>6586227

[Anonymous No.6586386]

>>6586360

[Anonymous No.6586387]

>>6586386
Oops

[Anonymous No.6587314]

I’llet me guess, Brian. You use titanium white

[Anonymous No.6587330]

muddy

[Anonymous No.6587438]

>>6585761
took better photo

[Anonymous No.6587442]

How do you stop overthinking? Instead of just painting I just wonder what kind of subject is best, what the reception will be, which platforms to upload on. Anxiety over AI for some reason (I never intend on making painting a job, just a hobby) I feel like I should stay with classical motifs but sometimes I don't want to draw such things, sometimes I want to paint something more sci-fi or fantasy like, something like Giger or beksinsksi or, hell Nihei or Moebius or Toppi Bilal or whatever something in between. I just want to feel free to create whatever I want but then I'm afraid people will hate what I make. Even though I find joy in just creating, I don't do it for social media points, but I still have all these nagging thoughts in my head and I'd like to have some sort of following.
It's crazy.
It trips me up looking at social media, looking up my medium of choice (Gouache) and seeing only studies of plants and scenes from Ghibli, makes it feel like I'm doing something wrong even considering something else. Even though all these artists I mentioned dare to do their own thing, so why shouldn't I?

[Anonymous No.6587461]

>>6587442
just stop being a faggot, draw/paint something from life to get your hand warm and the thoughts at bay. maybe try meditation, it helps your ability to concentrate.

[Anonymous No.6587939]

>>6587314
Hide and seek

[Anonymous No.6588296]

>>6587939
Lead is better than titanium

[Anonymous No.6588347]

>>6588296
You’re not my mom you don’t tel me what to do

[Anonymous No.6588429]

How do I take non reflective pictures of my work?

[Anonymous No.6588468]

>>6588429
That's amazing! I love it! What did you use to paint it? Is it from a stor or something you just came up with? Do you have a blog or IG or something, I'd love to see more of your work.

[Anonymous No.6588491]

>>6588468
Supposed to be story. Not stor.
As for the question, I think indirect light is good, avoid flashes and such. Instead have maybe a lamp with a sheet of paper between it and what you're photoing.
But it can be a bit of a pain. You can always remove some glare in photoshop too.

[Anonymous No.6588517]

>>6588468
Thanks, Anon. I used watercolor & dry pastels for the color, and graphite for details. The character is my interpretation of Griffith from Berserk.
I mostly post on twitter
https://twitter.com/wufdrawscrap

Thanks for the advice, anon. I'll keep these factors in mind. Gawd, I wish I knew how to edit photos on photoshop lol.

[Anonymous No.6588889]

>>6588429
take photos outdoors in daylight

[Anonymous No.6588893]

>>6588429
Damn this is amazing

[Anonymous No.6588925]

>>6588889
Yeah, natural lighting is not as reflective. Unfortunately, I'd sprayed the fixative already and in such lighting there appears to be miniscule bumps on the work, which ruins the shot. :')
>>6588893
Thanks, Anon! Here's a full picture.

[Anonymous No.6589022]

>>6587939
I think you need some edge control, your paintings look cool as thumbnails but as soon as I open them I don't know where to look

[Anonymous No.6589026]

>>6588347
Nice wavey brushwork, the colour choice is also nice to indicate some sort of classical landscape. Lovely!

[Anonymous No.6589120]

>>6583637
U got some skills
it would look good if your style werent so abhorrent and fucked up

[Kelley Lim No.6589180]

>>6587438
That's pretty nice but hose red accents on the brow ridge, nostril and ears are so saturated it could be interpreted as bleeding. Also, comparing to the original, that lighter part of the shadow below his right eye is much more subtle. Good job overall, I like it<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

[Anonymous No.6589186]

>>6585503
i like it, makes me wanna play kingdom hearts

[Anonymous No.6589188]

>>6587438
nose looks weird to me, kinda flat and weirdly proportioned with the face

[Anonymous No.6589232]

>>6589188
>>6589180
Thank you

[Anonymous No.6589234]

>>6588925
This is awesome. Do you sell prints or art books or anything like that? Not even into Berserk and I'd still hang this on my wall.

[Anonymous No.6589290]

>>6588517
It's really nice! and interesting combo of pastels and watercolors, in which order do you use them? How long did this painting take? Took a look at your work, I really like it!


Does anyone have tips on more contemporary artists working in traditional media doing less conventional subjects?

[Anonymous No.6589299]

>>6589290
>contemporary artists working in traditional media doing less conventional subjects?
illustration is hard to sell as a product, it's more sellable in a portfolio while looking for employment. If you're looking to sell a piece of unconventional traditional art it should fit a bit more neatly into an art movement outside of illustration.

Look up surrealism and cubism and try to adapt it a bit more closely to those styles of work and it'll be more easily sellable and can be sold as such. A work closer to traditional surrealism will sell easier than a traditional illustration in a marketplace. Even something like Beksinski's work is easily saleable now (as opposed to when he was working) compared to something inspired more by cartoons.

[Anonymous No.6589343]

>>6589299
That's cetainly reasonable. Not really looking for advice on what sells, more like artists with a at least bit of a following, I was thinking of stuff like what beksinksi and Bilal, Moebius produced. But as you mentioned Beksinksi's stuff does sell apparently. Seems like the traditional sphere is dominated by traditional subjects while the more imaginative works have moved to digital so I'm looking for exceptions to this rule, still living, preferably not ancient, traditional artists doing work other than portraits, landscapes or animals and such. Or at least not always such subjects.

[Anonymous No.6589412]

>>6589343
I think you’re looking for something that doesn’t exist outside of purely abstract art. Everything is eventually representative of something no matter how stylized or abstracted. Even Wayne Barlowe’s alien designs are in essence cribbed from real animals on Earth and actual biology. You’re looking for a color that you’ve never seen, and that’s a bit of an empty quest

[Anonymous No.6589431]

>>6589412
No I meant exactly someone like Wayne barlowe! just working traditionally, and working traditionally right now, who hasn't moved to digital like I think Barlowe has done. When I said traditional subjects I din't think say, spec-evo stuff like Wayne Barlowe's animals when I mentioned animals. I get how that can be misconstrued, but I meant stuff like painting someones dog.

[Anonymous No.6589504]

>>6589431
What are you looking to do? get a job as an illustrator or sell fine art? If you want something in between those things that’s not really a position that exists at the moment. A lot of people try to be that but it’s very rare that a fine artist has training in both fields enough to do both kinds of work

[Anonymous No.6589531]

>>6589504
Just looking for some inspiration, to see if there are people who paint unconventional subjects in traditional media. I just want to look at some art that was made after the advent of digital media at least somewhat recently, depicting unconventional subjects. Like Spec-evo, spaceships, walls of flesh, megastructures and demons or whatever. Just not endless portraits of regular contemporary people, paintings of flowers or bowls of fruit or scenes from ghibli movies. I was just curious if you guys had tips on artists that fulfill those criteria. Like beksinski or giger, only contemporary, ie still active. Well active and alive I guess. Because it seems most people drawing/painting such subjects have moved on to digital media.


I don't really have ambitions for art to be more than a hobby for me, I have a job already. Just noticed that there's basically only classical subjects being painted with physical media, so I wanted to ask if you guys had some artists or illustrators that work in physical media and paint less conventional subjects. Just names of them, to look up and be inspired by their work, like how I felt when I saw >>6588925

[Anonymous No.6589535]

>>6589531
>Just not endless portraits of regular contemporary people, paintings of flowers or bowls of fruit or scenes from ghibli movies.
thats a ton of people on twitter and instagram. I don't know their names because I don't enjoy that kind of work but social media is stuffed with that exact thing.

[Anonymous No.6589540]

>>6589535
I know! I'm looking for artists that do not paint such things! or at least not as their main focus!

I don't enjoy it either, some is nice but it gets kind of samey unless there's a unique twist or some interesting stylization or something going on.

[Anonymous No.6589558]

>>6589540
I’m not trying to meme here but quite literally what you’re looking for is what contemporary young black artists paint. It’s all that stuff, it’s just usually got black people in the art, so you gotta be okay with that

[Anonymous No.6590115]

>>6589234
Thanks, Anon! Means a lot. I don't sell any prints, yet. Should I start doing so? Tbh, I made this piece hoping to get some commissions. I don't usually do fan arts, but I'm going through a financial crisis rn lol

[Anonymous No.6590117]

>>6589290
Thanks! I paint the base layers with watercolor, and then use Conté & graphite for details.

[Anonymous No.6590123]

>>6590115
Well you've successfully marketed commissions to me at least. How much were you thinking for commissions? I'm pretty sure I'm safe from my company's layoffs (I literally do not know who else they could lay off at this point) so I would both love to get art from you and love to help an anon out financially at the same time.

[Anonymous No.6590162]

>>6590123
Ayy, thanks, Anon!
I charge $350 for A3 and $600 for A2.
The Berserk piece was done on an A2 size sheet, btw. Hoping my prices don't seem absurd to you. You finding my work commission worthy, that alone means a lot :)

[Anonymous No.6590380]

>>6588347
I think this is done

[Anonymous No.6590401]

>>6590380
THAT ASS. Love it. Gud werk artistic anon

[Anonymous No.6590559]

>>6583110
Just did this in highlighter so I guess it goes here. Can I get some thoughts? I feel that some of my strokes were rough

[Anonymous No.6590564]

>>6590559
Ref

[Anonymous No.6590599]

>>6590559
From the thumbnail it looked like one of those trans meme things. Lost opportunity.

[Anonymous No.6590688]

>>6590162
The opposite of absurd actually. I see way too many people trying to get enough money to fix a car, for example, with like literally $15 commissions. Buddy, that car is never getting fixed at $15 per commission.

[Anonymous No.6590981]

>>6590115
blog anon?

[Anonymous No.6591180]

>>6590401
Thanks :)

[Anonymous No.6591187]

>>6591180

[Anonymous No.6591267]

i am not that good at oil not gonna lie

[Anonymous No.6591409]

>>6590688
True that
>>6590981
Don't have one. I post all of my work on Twitter
https://twitter.com/wufdrawscrap

[Anonymous No.6591544]

>>6591267
Same bruh

[Anonymous No.6591719]

>>6591187
Booba

[Anonymous No.6591779]

>>6583110
I hope all of you make it. I think you deserve survival more than any of us and I say that as a digital artist. Were we, to you, like AI artists?

[Anonymous No.6591784]

>>6583110
I love oil paintings but man, it is a constant battle against my retarded adhd crippled brain to find the patience.
I wish there were more resources for adhdtards online since most learn art advice is incompatible with your wiring if you have adhd, not that its impossible, but it doesnt have to be that way yk?

[Anonymous No.6591845]

>>6587939
don't know why people shit on brian so much, his paintings look fine

[Anonymous No.6591857]

>>6591719
after all these years surely you can spend a week learning how to paint hands
pls Bri

[Anonymous No.6591890]

>>6591857
I am going to say this once and only once: Nigga I’m tryin dawg

[Anonymous No.6591947]

>>6591857
brian's paintings look fine dude I enjoy looking at them whenever he posts. theyre better than mine atleast lol

[Anonymous No.6592001]

>>6591947
Thanks

[Anonymous No.6592155]

>>6591779
For me personally no. I was never threatened by digital art because it was always a human being behind it. I think digital art is just as valid as traditional it’s just about preference. I do, however, feel threatened by AI and don’t really support it, but there’s nothing that can be done there so oh well. Won’t stop me from drawing

[Anonymous No.6592270]

Dicked around with Gouache a bit, trying to get back to painting and not just thinking about it.

>>6591779
Nah. Digital is still human, it's a very 'clean' experience, perfect undo, infinite easy colour mixing and simple adjustments, transform and such. But it's still human.

>>6592001
I like her face and tits but I feel the shoulder is a bit detached from the body.

>>6591784
I like this painting. What kind of resources did you have in mind?
I've got ADD, I tend to get stuck overthinking and overanalyzing so I feel my issue isn't lack of resources, it's too much, there's endless lists of tips to combat art-block can get stuck in when the issue is just picking up the brush and smear paint around.

[Anonymous No.6592335]

>>6592270
haha, I have ADD aswell but I figured Id just say adhd since they changed it.

The tips are what I'm talking about, the majority of advice I've seen clashes with the way an ADD brain wants to prioritize tasks.

It would be more effective to structure strategies that work with ADD symptoms instead of trying to swim up stream.

If someone with ADHD/ADD has managed to out think their symptoms by willfully forcing themselves to focus, I've never seen it, and I'm not aware of anyone who's seen it either.

reading your reply made me feel alot better actually I relate so much to what you are saying I go through that exact loop soooo many trimes haha, you are not alone LOL..

[Anonymous No.6592708]

>>6592270
love this

only wanna say maybe put that antenna on the left in front of that cloud to keep the scale unless those are massive buildings in which case cool

[Anonymous No.6593365]

>>6586387
i like the subject and how you painted it

[Anonymous No.6593374]

A5 tempera painting of my plants

[Anonymous No.6594265]

frederick judd waugh study

[Anonymous No.6594701]

How would you recreate this style in trad? What mediums would be appropriate? I really like it. Nice mix of eroticism and weirdness. Do you think the artist used a reference for the pose?

[Anonymous No.6594971]

>>6585503
This looks like what the AI discards before rendering the final painting

[Anonymous No.6594976]

>>6588925
I approve of this greatly

[Anonymous No.6594984]

>>6590559
Bad. Highlighter is good for laying a vibrant base but provides absolutely zero value control. Try again with a pencil. Then gesso and glaze with a highlighter if you're still feeling gay

[Anonymous No.6595381]

I painted a great tit in gouache. Would love some feedback. Struggled a bit with the background, next time I'm doing it first.

>>6594265
Love the colours!

[Anonymous No.6595624]

>>6593365
Thanks, my life’s been hell lately but at least the arts good

[Anonymous No.6595749]

>>6594701
gouache. it's basically watercolours that are opaque enough that you can paint in layers.
personally, I use MIYA brand that comes in jelly cups.

[Anonymous No.6595759]

Is LCD screen considered trad?
There isn't any software involved.

[Anonymous No.6596305]

>>6595624
What's up in yr life, Bri?

[Anonymous No.6596577]

>>6583637
This is this painting in natural light it’s not nearly as dark as this photo suggests.

[Anonymous No.6596746]

>>6596305
i live with a retard (woman)

[Anonymous No.6596824]

[Anonymous No.6596941]

>>6596577

[Anonymous No.6596949]

>>6585325
glaze dat shit with something that makes it look less bruised

[Anonymous No.6596962]

>>6595624
why is it flat. haven't you learned that baroque is the pinnacle of art yet

[Anonymous No.6597186]

>>6596962
Flat is better, take the modernism pill

[Anonymous No.6597187]

>>6597186
Booba and vagoo

[Anonymous No.6597196]

30x40cm canvas on a cardboard, still a wip. Even though oils are very forgiving, I'm still stressed for some reason. Can't bring myself to try to paint on a real linen canvas, I got a couple of 50x70cm ones just laying around for a few months now.

[Anonymous No.6597198]

>>6597196
>Can't bring myself to try to paint on a real linen canvas, I got a couple of 50x70cm ones just laying around for a few months now.
here's my advice: just do it

[Anonymous No.6597388]

>>6597196
stingy bitch

[Anonymous No.6597746]

Everything I carved so far, currently working on a T-rex

[Anonymous No.6597747]

>>6588429
scan it. overlap each scan and then auto-stitch it in photoshop or whatever. better quality, clarity, and no warping

[Anonymous No.6597802]

>>6597187

[Anonymous No.6597816]

/trad/? More like /coomers/. All you are drawing is naked ladies.

[Anonymous No.6597825]

painting the landscape,
I just hope it isn't raining today!

[Anonymous No.6598015]

>>6597816
Damn straight

[Anonymous No.6599772]

6 hour live

[Anonymous No.6599793]

Based to all those who didn't draw w*men, that is all

[Anonymous No.6599796]

>>6597196
This is great.

I have this oil painting I am still working on.

[Anonymous No.6600772]

>>6599796
Pthalo green go brrrr, I’m using it in my new ones today too

[Anonymous No.6600774]

>>6597816
ikr severe lack of creativity

[Anonymous No.6600798]

>>6600772
I have no idea what this one is.

[Anonymous No.6600824]

>>6600798
Idk

[Anonymous No.6600880]

any tips for charcoal stuff? i really like when people do shit with charcoal i wanna give it a go

[Anonymous No.6601020]

>>6600880
Google how to store them because it’s hard to not have them become a mess over time

[Anonymous No.6601968]

I just made a painting I thought it was looking fine, but then the more I looked into it the more I started to hate it and this is a trend in oil painting that makes me hate doing this.

[Anonymous No.6602344]

>>6601968
Done with it.
>Try bright color (always from the base colour)
>Thinking it's ruined
>Go back to dark coloring

Fuck, at least ove improved from my previous stuff. Back to the bucket.

>>6588925
>>6588429
I would like to know. Also this is incredible. Berserk or just heavily inspired?

What did you use to make this?

[Anonymous No.6602425]

>>6601020
Pinterest has such good references

[Anonymous No.6603097]

>>6597196
I'd love to make a portrait like this just for the sake of getting out of portraits.
Do you have a pallete you could show me the palette? Also what tubes are you using?

[Anonymous No.6603175]

>>6595381
it has a hasty feel to it. composition is alright. make some feather texture studies, and then try to do it again

>>6594701
gosh that's awful

[Anonymous No.6603238]

>>6602425

[Anonymous No.6603262]

>>6603175
NTA, you got examples on feather study for oil? Pic is a bird I made.
I did not care for feather details and usually don't in any drawing of birds I make.

[Anonymous No.6603387]

>>6599796
Oh I really like this! Love the light.

>>6603175
I see what you mean, the feathers are kind of, un-feathery. It could use some texturing with a thin brush.
It wasn't hasty, I spent a lot of time one it, sad it doesn't look like it.

>>6603262
That's really great. Nicely balanced details I think.

[Anonymous No.6603405]

>>6603387
I guess the background lines around the head gives this impression;the bottom feels more careful, but it's less visible than what's right next to the bird's head

>>6603262
Look for fur tutorials; you should easily find watercolor tutorials.

For oils, slow but great looking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF76KADB5YE, Tischler has a bunch of videos on birds, using a detailed approach too.

> I did not care for feather details and usually don't in any drawing of birds I make.
The main issue with your picrel is composition: watch out for your values. Compare with examples below. Besides, you seem to use too much white in your light, giving things a chalky look, and messing up your temperature balance.

You don't have to use such a highly detailed approach: often a more suggestive one can be more artistic, less photographic: https://scottsdaleartauction.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/199-Schmid-Richard-Mountain-Bird-2021.jpg

There's some cute stylize stuff too: https://www.boredpanda.com/oil-paintings-bird-art-angela-moulton/

Just do 10/15 careful master studies, intertwined with personal attempts. And read a good book on oil painting (Richard Schmid is great, pricey tho), or find some good video tutorials.

[Anonymous No.6603416]

How do you not feel bad when you produce something bad? Tried to draw people from imagination, but just couldn't place the lines where I wanted and the proportions and forms were all crap. Feels bad. How do I not let stuff like that affect me? People on social media, with all the timelapses and so on make it seem so effortless, which although I'm aware is a heavily curated presentation, still makes it all the more frustrating.

[Anonymous No.6603419]

>>6603262
You need more broad areas of color. There’s visible limits to building up detail in every area equally, birdanon

[Anonymous No.6603425]

>>6603416
Social media is curated
people don't show you either the thousands of crap stuff they've produced they're way too ashamed of even finishing, and with digital they don't show you the ctrl+z count.
Be proud of making mistakes as this isn't a mistake you'll commit in the future.

[Anonymous No.6603440]

>>6603416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoZbhIncgPs

[Anonymous No.6603536]

>>6603405
Lord have mercy, this looks so boring but so necessary to learn how to master.

[Anonymous No.6603553]

>>6603405
>too much white
Yes I was told the same. Been only learning oil for some months, but steadly making my progress. Thanks for the feedback and the tutorial.

>>6602344
Please rate? It's a bit of a bad quality photo, the painting is still drying up but here I was more catreful with not putting pure whites in the image.

[Anonymous No.6603567]

>>6603419
Your art reminds me a lot of Friedrich Ludwig. It's super nice but not what I want to do personally.

[Anonymous No.6603581]

>>6603405
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMj69kQ6fyQ&ab_channel=MichaelJamesSmith

[Anonymous No.6603586]

>>6603581
This guy makes Robert E Fuller look amateur hour.

[Anonymous No.6603607]

>>6603567
Looked him up, yeah I like it. It’s nice I’m continuing in an established school of style by past artists. It’s weird where the chips fall after you’ve done it enough

[Anonymous No.6603637]

>>6603262
Look up old painters from Victorian times that painted animals/birds.
Copy some of their work. I bet it's way easier to do than >>6603405 as Victorians/Edwardians often washed in a warm underground, the put the 'cold' colours on top. Then it was done. No time for fiddle faddling.

[Anonymous No.6603671]

>>6583111
You're blending and dirtying your colours too much. I understand the will to not use colours straight out of the tube, but they all turn grey or brown after too much blending.

>>6583637
Same with you and if you're gonna draw portraits much smaller brushes help, like hog hair brushes with only a couple hairs on them.

>>6585325
It's almost good. Her face is kinda ugly...? Draw a lot of faces from life and photos and try to capture their charm. Also, when you paint a woman's skin, don't stipple, it makes it look like they have a ton of cellulite. Don't overblend either though, you need to use large and purposeful strokes.

>>6587438
This is not bad, but you made his face too thin.
The brushstrokes are pretty good. As the other guy said, red too bright. The original painting in general is darker.

[Anonymous No.6603681]

>>6603637
I'm going to overwhelm myself again, for me it's better than I also just focus in one type of study at time so honestly, I think I'm going to pass on that for now.
This is something I'm copying for the moment (open to suggestions on what to correct or add). Nikolay Kasatkin.

>>6603607
You seem to love women like any straight fella does, and speaking of Nikolai, you could also look up Nikolai Blokhin. His work is also very resemblant of yours and but he puts an amazing detail in the faces. I'd say it's a great goal for you.

[Anonymous No.6603693]

>>6603681
I mean, fuck my life. The original is kicking my ass, I just don't know what else to do to get to this result.

[Anonymous No.6603726]

>>6603536
Highly detail work is annoying, and not necessarily fantastic artistically speaking, but it's a good exercise, and a good tool to have under your belt

>>6603637
Yup, looks definitely easier, perhaps more suitable for a first try; I'd maintain training on a wide variety of technique is great, for learning purposes at least

>>6603681
>This is something I'm copying for the moment (open to suggestions on what to correct or add). Nikolay Kasatkin.
1. Use a smooth surface (e.g. panel), not a canvas, especially for young women
2. Don't work from a (computer) screen, either print your reference, or better, buy a book with high quality references
3. Don't try to do a full figure yet: focus for instance on one hand only. Make sure you understand the form, how the values are distributed and so forth. You may want to make a preliminary drawing first, so that when you paint, you can just focus on painting

[Anonymous No.6603744]

>>6603726
>Use a smooth surface (e.g. panel), not a
Would it be better if I had prepared the canvas with plaster? Also a canvas isn't a smooth surface, how come? Looks pretty smooth to me. :(

> Don't work from a (computer) screen, either print your reference, or better, buy a book with high quality references
That one I got it. I printed the original on an A3 paper size and used it to trace the position a little bit, then did some adjustements by eye. It's not perfect but I think I at least got some of it in the correct place.

>how the values are distributed and so forth
This one is a pickle, especially when I suck at it yet.
Would it be of help if I used this site https://www.colorhexa.com/3f574a and used the CMYK color chart to get the values and did some mixture by trial and error till I get it right?

[Anonymous No.6603754]

>>6603744
>Would it be better if I had prepared the canvas with plaster? Also a canvas isn't a smooth surface, how come? Looks pretty smooth to me. :(
Could help, but MDF or paper is cheap and available. 2 coats of gesso and you're on

> Would it be of help if I used this site https://www.colorhexa.com/3f574a and used the CMYK color chart to get the values and did some mixture by trial and error till I get it right?
It can, but it doesn't matter in the end. You'll want to practice until you can do it without thinking; this'll take a certain amount of time/paint/surface to get there. Experiment with what you want to get there

[Anonymous No.6603989]

First sitting done. I'm starting a bit too late I think for it to be ready by this weekend (birthday present) but gonna try my best. Still very new to painting in general but I feel like session 1 went ok

[Anonymous No.6603991]

>>6602344
Thanks! It's Guts & Griffith. I used Watercolor, Dry pastels and graphite. :)

[Anonymous No.6604009]

>>6603989
Good cat

[Anonymous No.6604043]

>>6603991
I love your stuff. You also have Instagram?

[Anonymous No.6604046]

>>6604009
I'd love to see your atelier. I bet you have a bunch of pieces like this one laying everywhere.

Ever done an gallery exposition?

[Anonymous No.6604116]

>>6604009
Oh I love this one, Brian. The playful expression makes it stand out from your usual stuff. I wish you included the heads more often but I like your art and drive in general. Sometimes I consider being lazy but I come into this general and see Brian just finished a whole painting again so what's my excuse to not even do a pencil sketch.

[Anonymous No.6604137]

>>6604116
Just paint. There's barely any sketching involved. Pic is how I started a cat painting I did a month or so ago

[Anonymous No.6604139]

>>6604137
Final result.

[Anonymous No.6604311]

I suck ass at colors. I don't know what it is but it's like I'm afraid to leave a certain color temperature in my paintings which makes me leave shit way too dark.

[Anonymous No.6604345]

Instagram is the best place to get references imo

[Anonymous No.6604449]

Anyone Tried the Velazquez medium? I ordered some, hoping it arrives today.

[Anonymous No.6604556]

>>6604345
of shitty low res images sure

[Anonymous No.6604950]

does anyone have experience painting on plaster wallpaper? looking for cheap surfaces

[Anonymous No.6605185]

>>6604116
Boredom overtakes laziness for me

[Anonymous No.6605189]

>>6604311
Force yourself not to use any of the colours you normally do. Get our of the comfort zone.

>>6604139
Love this. The cat's expression is awesome.

[Anonymous No.6606015]

>>6605189
Thanks.
Did another one back to back with that one.

[Anonymous No.6606019]

>>6606015
I smell sopa di macacú

[Anonymous No.6606021]

>>6605189
>Get our of the comfort zone.
I'm going to do this.

I've already picked what I'm going to attempt to copy next. I'm preparing the canvas for it already.

[Anonymous No.6606025]

>>6606019
Wrong, it's Bacalhau à Brás.

[Anonymous No.6606033]

>>6605185
Out of curiosity, how long does it take for you to do apiece like this?

Must take long right? You have to keep the oil as dry as possible so the colours don't get contaminated?
Man, I'm trying to do this too, but it takes so much patience and I hate to come back to paintings whenever I'm done with them.
Closest I have is a Naruto one I was doing for fun but it's abandoned in a corner.

[Anonymous No.6606078]

I'm an extreme beginner, but I want to get better.
It's hard to find the motivation to study the things one needs to study to become good at painting though versus just painting what I want to paint.

[Anonymous No.6606118]

>>6606078
It’s said all the time but bears repeating. The thing you need to practice to get better at painting is drawing. Painting is mostly affect and finding a process you enjoy

[Anonymous No.6607117]

Gremloids on the March.

Ink-wash, Marker, and Gouache.

[Anonymous No.6607474]

Anyone knows a bit about drawing in charcoal?
I've picked it up recently and I like the charcoal pencil I've got (Conte a Paris 1710 B), especially how nice and effortless the darks are. But I'm having a lot of trouble with getting control over the lightest values, even simple gradients are tough. The best way I've figured so far is to try drawing as lightly as the tool seems to permit while staying somewhat comfortable and then try to get the lighter values by using an eraser, but it's kinda messy. With graphite you can get the values you want effortlessly by switching between ~4 pencils, is there an equivalent of this in charcoal?
I figured I'll more likely find an answer if I first ask here rather than /sqtddtot/ or the art suplies thread.

[Anonymous No.6607574]

frank benson copy wip

[Anonymous No.6607592]

>>6607574
Love it.

[Anonymous No.6607764]

>>6607474
There are two types of charcoal, natural and synthetic. Natural is easier to erase, you should use that one first and only then move to synthetic ones.

But I'm not the best person to talk, I've only had a few classes work charcoal. Once I get home I'll post some stuff I made.

[Anonymous No.6607858]

>>6603989
Slowly coming along. Not sure if the room I'm painting in is too cold or something but feels like everythings taking super long to dry but maybe that's just cause I'm new to painting and oils in general

[Anonymous No.6607994]

I’m coming out of probably one of the most stressful periods of my life I’ve been through, and produced I think around 125 paintings in the past month and a half and they were all FUCKING BANGERS. Paint through the pain, brothers

[Anonymous No.6608013]

>>6607994
did you actually sell anything
curious

[Anonymous No.6608030]

>>6607994
im assuming you didnt post them here then, because the ones you kept posting are the same as they have always been, amazing values and horrible compositions

[Anonymous No.6608184]

>>6607994
I think I know you. You gave me an advice once.

[Anonymous No.6608216]

>>6608184
Everyone knows me dude

[Anonymous No.6608359]

>>6608216
I said I think I know you not that I'm sure you're the same guy who once told me it's better to just make many pieces and then sell them. You were moving your ebay shop to somewhere else iirc.fl
Forgot your name, post a link to your stuff please?(post it even if your not the same guy)

[Anonymous No.6609196]

>>6595381
I think if there was more of a shadow from the bird it would look much more realistic. I think shadows look best for painting when you’re facing obliquely towards the sun, as in shadows pointing somewhat towards the foreground. This tends to naturally boost the contrast of the composition as well as give some shadows on the actual subject which I think helps define shape even better than highlights on a subject. The background brushstrokes being oriented on the diagonal are telling my brain that the background is severely tilted like the background is the side of a steep mountain. I think you might have more success painting background to foreground, and using opaque paint makes that so much easier. With transparent paint like watercolor I need to be careful to blot out paint in foreground objects when doing background washes or else it gives the look of translucency of foreground objects.

[Anonymous No.6609210]

>>6583115
I like the overall composition and the colors work well. The brushstrokes look all about the same wetness. It would be great to see a little more variation in texture by adding on some degree of dry brush work. You could get the effect by using less water on the bristles, thicker paint, and I think the best trick is using faster brushstrokes to get some dry brush texture. The way the sky washes have that dark border all the way around makes it look like you painted on a perfectly flat surface. If so, try a slant and see how much more natural your skies can look. If you can do all the sky washes simultaneously and connect the colors with strokes of clean water this will really make your clouds and skies look wonderful. As I paint close to the horizon I’ll use only water to get depth in the painting. I extend my background sky washes way past the horizon, stopping right at the horizon really subtracts from the illusion of depth.

[Anonymous No.6609386]

>>6605189
>Force yourself not to use any of the colours you normally do. Get our of the comfort zone.
i think I'm getting the hang of it.

[Anonymous No.6609392]

>>6609386
nta; don't use color for now, stick to monochromes (your values are wrong). And don't work on a full portrait, you're not ready yet. Focus say, on the forehead. First monochromaticalyl, then with colors.

[Anonymous No.6609435]

>>6609392
Will see what I can do. But I can't go back to monochromatic now or can I?

[Anonymous No.6609447]

>>6609392
Do you really need monochrome if the light values are there? It just feels like unecessary extra steps to me...

[Anonymous No.6609468]

>>6609435
>>6609447
I mean, I don't think you have the level to do a full color portrait. It's too ambitious: stop and instead, go back to *practice* getting your values correctly, for instance by doing (new) small monochrome studies. Make sure your values, proportions and edges are correct, all in small monochrome studies.

Then, once you're confortable with that, do small color studies, again keep them small and focus at first (e.g. just an isolated nose).

Finally, you can try doing a full color portrait.

You can try doing otherwise, obviously, but if you fail (I cannot stress how likely this is), try going back to what I propose.

[Anonymous No.6609582]

>>6609468
Not sure dude, monochrome seems such a massive waste of time. I already got the colours there I just need to work on the blending...
I never used or learned to start with grayscales, I do understand the purpose but c'mon, you can get there by just trying the mixtures.
But feel free to show me a video or something, I'll study that for sure.

[Anonymous No.6609619]

My first purely abstract composition

[Anonymous No.6609661]

>>6609582
brother if you manage to blend that cacked on shit into any other color than brown mud ill eat my own dick, the anon is correct you should start with monochrome, because it clearlyy shows you dont know what you are doing with oil paint the point of monochrome is to simplify the difficult task of painting down to its simplest pieces.and even before that i suggest you first learn how to draw since if you had an underdrawing prepared it would have been alot easier putting dow values

[Anonymous No.6609702]

>>6609661
I can. I'm not doing it out of spite just to see you eat your own dick, but because I want to finish this portrait.

[Anonymous No.6609752]

No one in this fucking thread even uses grayscale why am I being crucified because I think it's a waste of time???

[Anonymous No.6609784]

>>6609702
Really, I agree with the other posters here. You are trying to run a marathon before you can even stand up.
If you can't master values, you will never produce a decent looking drawing or painting in any medium, or colour scale.

[Anonymous No.6609821]

>>6609784
I really don't want to spite anyone here. But think that's an elitists as fuck advise...
There is no such a thing as "not being ready" when it comes down to try out stuff. You SHOULD be trying up anything. Fucking copy Mona Lisa when you're level 0.1, see how that goes and keep doing it until you're good. Copying is always a good practice.
As for grayscales that's just on me, I'm sorry, I'm too much of a shitter to make use of that, I rather work by blending colour and whatever is the final result I must try to make better in the next one.

[Anonymous No.6609859]

Point me to a single person ITT that used grayscales.

[Anonymous No.6609883]

>>6609661
>brother if you manage to blend that cacked on shit into any other color than brown mud ill eat my own dick
It's pretty much done but I'm IP banned from posting pics and have to use the cafe's internet tomorrow to show you the progress I did.
Are you going to live stream it?

[Anonymous No.6609907]

>>6607117
Nice I really like this one. Any tips for getting started with ink wash? I'm guessing it's basically monochrome watercolor.

[Anonymous No.6609968]

>>6583110
My parents have this chalk pastel picture I did when I was 13 hanging up and I want to fix it but not even sure where to start. Wish I could throw it out and start over. The first thing I’ll change is making the water less blue

[Anonymous No.6610005]

>>6609968
Messed with it digitally to plan what I want to do. The perspective is wonky which makes me think removing the wave is a good idea. Some piers going out will reinforce the size. Some different vegetation. Less dramatic clouds (although I don’t want it to look rainy). Kind of looks worse desu

[Anonymous No.6610163]

>>6609907
Well in this piece the markers are doing most of the heavy lifting, but the thing about inkwash is that it gives you even less margin for error than watercolor. Watercolor tends to leave somewhat permanent marks, but you can still re-wet and dab dark areas to lighten them a bit and blend edges to soften a sharp edge.

(Most) Ink on the other hand is not actually water-soluble once it dries, so once your marks are down and dried, that's it. So, you're going to want to make sure that the ink on your brush is watered-down to the correct shade before you start painting. Also, it is REALLY easy to get a hard edge when the ink dries, whether you want it or not, so you should pre-wet the paper if you're trying to do gradients or soft edges, but not TOO wet, because then the ink will just spread everywhere that's wet.

Also, finally, painting with watercolor, though it's very "watery", is still pigments in a medium, so it will act like paint and have a slight gelatinous quality. Painting with ink is literally like painting with colored water, so you'd better be prepared to deal with that.

That's all the advice I can give. I haven't done any pure inkwash in a while, but that's what I remember from working with it in the past. Nowadays I supplement it with Copic markers, because it gives me easier control of fine detail.

Hope this helps.

[Anonymous No.6610254]

[Anonymous No.6610277]

>>6609386
Now it's the part I have more trouble with, actually pulling colour. The original pic has a lot of orange, you can't see it in that print but it's there.

[Anonymous No.6610285]

>>6609968
Oh that one's so nice though. I wish I had a memory like this from when I was 13.

[Anonymous No.6610322]

>>6610277
It's actually much better than what I would have expected. Try squinting a little: you can still refine a few things here, at least, as far as your pic shows. (Not the eating my junk anon btw).

Monochromes are a great *exercice*; they force you to focus on the essential, and, assuming you're working from a colored original, to interpret what you see.

Enjoy

[Anonymous No.6610391]

>>6610322
Thank you and sorry if I sounded rude or spiteful, I was trying to avoid that (and don't want anyone to eat anything, it's me who has to grow a thicker skin about critiques on an art critique board, sorry)

I understand the point of working my monochromes but man, let me just get unbanned so I'll show you a horrible attempt at did at home a few weeks ago. And I was doing it from a tutorial.

[Anonymous No.6610420]

>>6610391
No problem; it' not like 4chan is exactly the pinnacle of human interactions.

I believe you: doing monochromes from colored work can be more difficult, as there is an interpretation stage: you can't compare 1:1 the colors. But when you get a good grasp at monochrome, you get much more precise and efficient when working with colors.

[Anonymous No.6610434]

>>6610420
Thanks man. Would you be kind to provide some skin tutorials I could try on? I tend to lean too much to Alzarin Crimson whenever I'm painting skin.

Also 4chan is awesome for human interaction. This is where you get real opinions most of the time. The day they close 4chan is the day I'll give up the internet (or look up for alternatives that are just as good)

[Anonymous No.6610520]

>>6609821
Lmao
We have a new Illastrat!

[Anonymous No.6610523]

>>6609859
I do.
Then after a few years of mixing colours (not painting portraits, as I was too shit to do them), and once I could match any colour I see exactly, in an instant, then I moved on to try coloured scales while I paint portraits and flowers.
You certainly CAN do it without, but your work will always look like you have only just picked up a brush for the first time. You won't learn anything by objectively not learning the fundamentals of a craft.

[Anonymous No.6610524]

>>6610005
Worse. Leave it alone. Never alter the real painting, man

[Anonymous No.6610607]

>>6610434
You can get a good base from white + a dull red (venitian, iron oxide). Use yellow ochre to warm it up, black to gray/cool things down.

Once you reach the limits of the previous setting, you can up the chroma with, say, cadmium red (I wouldn't expect alizarin to be permanent), which brings you to a Zorn palette. You can push things further in the blue/yellow setting with cadmium yellows & ultramarine.

That's all good for an alla-prima, which is essentially what you're aiming at.

But you can refine the technique, see some close-ups from https://www.muddycolors.com/2023/02/bouguereaus-the-oreads-and-photographing-artwork-in-museums/, such as https://www.muddycolors.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/13356-lyo_2853.jpg (image banned). Here, the highest-chroma are achieved by transparent application of the paint. The rendering is very delicate, and very economical.

Have a look at Cesar Santos; I think he's got more content with a Bouguereau-like technique, but he must have some things about alla prima too.

> 4chan is awesome for human interaction. This is where you get real opinions most of the time
It's an extremely chaotic setting. You've got your self-righteous Christian knights paddling in the mud with your no-life coom-brain Japanese, your "my prompts are Art" vs. "hey you niggas know how to make my own animal-glue ink?" and so forth.

[Anonymous No.6610921]

Painted some sort of skeleton-creature. Really should have used more references, maybe had more of a plan. Thought I'd share. Would love some feedback, I feel It's hard to define details, or suggest smaller ones.

>>6609196
Thanks for the feedback, I see what you mean with the strokes, and some shadows would have been good.
It's hard to paint background to foreground, at least for me. It's easier than in watercolours but I tend to lift paint of the background very often on accident. How can I avoid this?

>>6610254
Very nice, would fit well as an illustration to a children's book.

>>6607117
That's really nice! such nicely defined details!

[Anonymous No.6611144]

>>6606025
>>6606015
de onde és danone?
Diz-me que não te licenciantes em Belas para trabalhar num supermercado

[Anonymous No.6611250]

>>6611144
Eu nem me licenciei. Só estou aqui pelo feedback que estes cromos dão. Não arranjas noutro sitio desta forma.
Eu sinto me preso na forma como pinto e nao estou a progredir como queria.

[Anonymous No.6611269]

>>6610607
Thank you. Will do some exercises on this tomorrow if i find the time to.
>>6610520
Easier said than done...

[Anonymous No.6611498]

>>6610921
I generally let my sky get quite dry before I move on to mid ground and foreground painting. So I’d need an errant brushstroke or spill to move the pigment in my background any substantial amount. I do make plenty of these minor errors like tiny splatters but in the end they look fine to me. But I need to remind myself that however the sky turns out with watercolor it will look a million times worse with any attempt at correction so I just go with it.
Here’s one just prior to the watercoloring.

[Anonymous No.6611523]

>>6610163
nta, but I’m about to try some for her first time, so thanks.

>>6610921
I really dig it. It looks like you used a touch of blue for some shadows. I think some more would make the whole thing pop more and give more depth to the forms. but idk

[Anonymous No.6611671]

>>6597196
I guess I'm done with it. I'm glad someone in this thread suggested to get those tiny sable brushes.

[Anonymous No.6611738]

>>6610163
Many thanks, this is very helpful.

[Anonymous No.6611765]

>>6611671
Beautiful. You should really go for the linen canvas.

[Anonymous No.6611773]

>>6597746
very cool. the double helix is impressive.

[Anonymous No.6611885]

>>6611269
Re. The values pic-it's the whole point.
If the values are wrong, so is the picture.

[Anonymous No.6611887]

>>6611671
this is fucking top notch

[Anonymous No.6611896]

>>6611671
What tiny sable brushes? Link?

[Anonymous No.6611953]

>>6611765
>>6611887
Thanks, guys.
>>6611896
I got this type of set. Search "micro detail brushes" on amazon or elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.6611967]

>>6611953
Oh, so this is what these pencils are for....

I've also seen ones made of rubber.

[Anonymous No.6612139]

>>6611671
I actually do have a critique of this. The moons too big. That’s an easy fix if you feel like it but the thing is… compositionally this painting is very dark. So, your only bright element is going to be the moon, there’s no reason to have it be this clunky big circle, when it could be this mysterious smaller element in the same spot. But right no it doesn’t come across as the moon. It does just as a kind of goofy too big one. With how fine all the other details are the moon should be fine and small as well, sleeker and moodier and less obvious. Just my two cents and an easy fix if you feel like it.

[Anonymous No.6612238]

>>6612139
>The moons too big
nta but I'm pretty sure I've saw supermoons noticeably bigger than his.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/13/world/gallery/supermoon-sturgeon-full-moon-photos/index.html

you may have a point for the dark painting; it'd be interesting to know if the camera didn't destroyed the values too much

[Anonymous No.6612249]

>>6612238
Yes but it’s already so fantastical in it’s imagery, that I think a visually normal moon would actually be more impactful

[Anonymous No.6612258]

>>6611671
Love that victorian setting. How big is this piece?
My next art teacher does this sort of stuff too, I still suck ass at composing stuff this way but it's something I'd love to give it a try too.
My only critique would probably be tge lack of moon reflection on the mointain and the left side not being an ocean. What's happening there, just fog? Gives a lot to imagination.

[Anonymous No.6612262]

>>6611671
Wait, it's an ocean right? It's more apperant if you look at it from the center.
This type of composition reminds me of old Mental albums.

[Anonymous No.6612266]

>>6612262
*Metal albums
Fucking autocorrector

[Anonymous No.6612277]

>>6612266
A while back I was trying to copy this one.
I wonder if I can do it now.

[Anonymous No.6612369]

Oil pastel are too hard for detail and messy, Inlove it though.

[Anonymous No.6612375]

>>6612369
you can use a brush and a few drops of solvent to get the details

[Anonymous No.6612460]

>>6612369
It is super cute.

Do you guys have daily goals when making trad art?

[Anonymous No.6612488]

>>6612460
currently polishing my inking skill; I should be starting to polish my color skill in a few days. after that, I'll work on making a basic portfolio

[Anonymous No.6612616]

>>6612369
Does oil pastel pigments mix at all on the canvas?

[Anonymous No.6612870]

>>6612375
Thx for suggestion, I avoid using other chemicals though.
>>6612460
My daily goal is just gesture practice.
>>6612616
Artist grade oil pastel can but I thimk it will cost more pigment,

[Anonymous No.6614565]

Is this bad tradbros

[Anonymous No.6614800]

>>6614565

[Anonymous No.6614806]

>>6595759
stop posting

[Anonymous No.6614864]

I scanned the drawing to make it look better than take it a photo on my phone

[Anonymous No.6615013]

>>6614565
i'd like to own it desu

[Anonymous No.6615150]

>>6610921
>That's really nice! such nicely defined details!

Thank you!

I'm working on another ink/marker piece now. Hope to have it done within a few days.

[Anonymous No.6615790]

>>6614800

[Anonymous No.6616041]

Where do u guys deposit oily rags after cleaning the palette?
T. Dont want fire

[Anonymous No.6616083]

>>6616041
I use kitchen paper & bin it in a bag hanging off the easel. When bag is full I remove it,

[Anonymous No.6616137]

>>6603419
Love this. Was it painted from life or from a pic? Impressive anyway

[Anonymous No.6616288]

>>6616041
>T. Dont want fire
fire are most likely to be caused when you're using stuff that speeds up the oxidization process (e.g. boiled oil). the oxidization (meaning, oil eats oxygen) generates heat. the faster it goes, the warmer it gets.

fire are often caused by literally soaked rags thrown away carelessly in dustbin with other material that is likely to burn from the heat.

there should be no issues with out of the tube oil paint, because it'll oxidize slowly, and is in minuscule quantities.

for potentially dangerous rags, you can store them in tightly sealed container (no air/oxygen => no oxidizing process), or put them to "dry" flat on slab of rocks/tiling

[Anonymous No.6616294]

What's this about fire?!!! The more I read about oil the more dangerous this shit looks. Now besides fucking your lungs and stomach it can burn down your house? But acrylic is trash, I rather die than move to that.

[Anonymous No.6616301]

>>6616137
the figure is from a photo but i added the furniture and background, i tried doing it in a style that would make it look as if it was done from a model

[Anonymous No.6616861]

>>6616301
brian can you please study composition

[Anonymous No.6616974]

>>6616294
Oil doesn't fuck your lungs. Turpentines/petrol can, if you're using in a non-ventilated area for a while over some time. But the smell should discourage you from doing so. So no real risk.

Regarding fire, there's a risk mainly for woodworkers, who use great amount of oils, often boiled:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw5MqfrxM9g

[Anonymous No.6617012]

>>6616294
By all means, please never try any trad mediums.
You're clearly the sort that would stab themself in the eye with a blunt pencil, and blame someone else.

[Anonymous No.6617073]

>>6616301
Great. You're the only one showing any glimpses of creativity around here. Keep it up, and refine your vision.

[Anonymous No.6617232]

>>6617073
I’m trying to display my actual range of skill in each artwork, that’s my current goal

[Anonymous No.6617332]

>>6617232
I’ve got too many pieces that are singular styles and people end up feeling that’s all I’m capable of

[Anonymous No.6617392]

>>6611671
Gorgeous, one of the best I've seen on this wretched forum

[Anonymous No.6617457]

>>6617392
Shitter comment, not what this threads about

[Anonymous No.6617464]

>>6617457
Are you upset I didn't call your shit tier paintings gorgeous? Shut the absolute fuck up cumfart

[Anonymous No.6617484]

>>6617464
I already told that guy I like his painting, notice how nobody else who is posting their work in here is shitting on everyone in the thread and trying to rank the posters?

[Anonymous No.6617591]

>>6617484
Notice I don't give a shit?

[Anonymous No.6617611]

>>6617457
>/ic/
>artwork/critique
>critique
maybe should have made the thread on a different board then

[Anonymous No.6617649]

>>6617464
*sigh*
>gets that .jpeg out

[Anonymous No.6617651]

>>6617611
>artwork/critique
I don’t see any mention of building a tier list, go back to your other pathetic ai doompost generals

[Anonymous No.6618350]

>>6617651
>dude mentions how the art the anon posted is some of the best he has seen on this site
>this is somehow building a tierlist because he simply finds your art shit
grow a backbone you nigger

[Anonymous No.6618357]

Dudes, be friends with each others please. We're all here huffing turpentine, fucking our lungs like we have worked on the mines for 30 years, and trying to improve at the same time. There's no need to engane in heated arguments. Just be friends.

[Anonymous No.6618362]

>>6618357
>heated arguments
brother i called him an insecure nigger if you consider this a heated argument i dont know what to tell you

[Anonymous No.6618368]

>>6618362
You just told me all I need to hear...

[Anonymous No.6618372]

>>6618368
normies and their consequences have been a disater for the internet

[Anonymous No.6618397]

>>6618372
This board has been a terrible consequence to my mind.

[Anonymous No.6618441]

>>6617332
One thing I appreciate in paintings is the ability to see things in them. And in this one for example, I can see the giraffe. Doesn't fucking matter what kind of brush you're applying to that, the animal is there. It's like seeing it through a filter.
That's the type of realism I aim in my paintings too.

[Anonymous No.6618534]

>>6617232
>>6617332
Dont get me wrong, theres nothing inherently wrong with mashing up styles, but frankly the ambition you described is kind of insufferable ambition, and I doubt it'll benefit your work.

You wouldnt wanna listen to a song where the musician is just trying flex how many instruments and styles they can play, with the sole purpose of making you impressed by their talent and range.

[Anonymous No.6618728]

>>6618534
I think the dude needs to thin his oil a little bit more.

[Anonymous No.6618838]

>>6618534
>You wouldnt wanna listen to a song where the musician is just trying flex how many instruments and styles they can play, with the sole purpose of making you impressed by their talent and range.
you're absolutely right but sometimes it works better than others. You want it to look smooth, and in the process you might sacrifice an otherwise good "background" for a kind of bad completed painting. But that's the risk you take by adding elements to them. Sometimes they're really cool, so it cna be worth it

[Anonymous No.6619834]

>>6618838
Kind of abstract approach? Idk

[Anonymous No.6620093]

>>6599796
Finished up the fish mutant

[Anonymous No.6620097]

>>6620093
And did this sketch yesterday

[Anonymous No.6620461]

How did you manage to make drawing/painting into a routine or habit? I do it sporadically, but I'd like to be more consistent with it rather than just spend my time on youtube or on here.

[Anonymous No.6620466]

>>6620461
>but I'd like to be more consistent with it rather than just spend my time on youtube or on here.
I really don't want to keep working doing BS IT jobs, have no wife, no kids. It's easier when you have a fixed, solid goal.

[Anonymous No.6620772]

[Anonymous No.6620857]

Been away for two weeks, back to figure drawing today

[Anonymous No.6620904]

There are obvious problems with proportion and the wheels

[Anonymous No.6620959]

>>6620904
draw bigger,
make a value/composition sketch to guide you

[Anonymous No.6621160]

[Anonymous No.6621188]

Need to work on values. Definitely went too far with the highlights and not far enough with the shadows. I think my palette is too messy.

[Anonymous No.6621191]

>>6620461
Go to an art class or figure session once a week

[Anonymous No.6621208]

>>6621188
The thumbnail kind of looks like it was a figure painting which is cool, good composition

[Anonymous No.6621232]

>>6620461
If I do not draw, there is a not zero chance I will quit on the spot at work, go on an insane person LinkedIn rant, break all of the dirty fucking dishes in the sink, throw out all the clothes in the laundry machine that hasn't been moved to the dryer even though it's been at least half a day, tell my neighbor to go fuck himself the next time he asks how it's going because you know damn well someone finally getting home from work at 7PM is not having a day that's going well...you get the point. It keeps me sane. It is my stress relief. It is the light in my life. Find what drawing is to you. If you have to force yourself to draw, it might not be THE hobby for you and that's perfectly okay despite what this board would have you believe. It's okay to do some hobbies every once in a while. Just make sure you have something that prevents you from becoming a sleep, work, Netflix/TikTok zombie.

[Anonymous No.6621245]

>>6621232
Oh yeah well if you love drawing so much why don’t you marry it?

[Anonymous No.6621250]

>>6620461
Make it easier to draw so you don't have an excuse not to. I always keep a small sketch pad in my pocket. I have a backpack that is always pre-packed with my gouache. I take to work to paint on my lunch break. I keep my oil brushes in a mason jar of oil so I never have to clean them. If I had to do a bunch of thinking, looking for supplies, annoying chores, etc. before I got to the art then I would never pick up a pencil/brush.
Also draw things that you enjoy. When I started, I spent all my time doing portraits because I thought it was how you "git gud". Now that I've given up on success and only do things I enjoy (landscapes and still lives) I actually draw more than when I was trying to "make it".

[Anonymous No.6621394]

>>6620857
dont know about the accuracy since i dont know what the ref looks like but it looks pretty good, im asuming you are doing the bargue way of drawing witch is my preffered way as well,at this stage i would personally still not use any curves(like in the shin and the quad) and you could focus on making lines with fewer strokes or atleast clean them up a bit better i also fell like using a 2H-4H is pretty helpfull at the sketch in stage as you dont muddy up the paper as much as with darker pencils, but overall i can tell that you will definately become a decent artist if you put like 1-2 more years in

[Anonymous No.6621397]

>>6621188
honestly looks pretty decent yea the values could use some work but honestly the brushwork is amazing a lot more thoughtfull and artistic than the usual cumfarti trash reminds me a bit of richard schmid

[Anonymous No.6621592]

>>6621394
Thanks for the kind words, it's motivating to feel like I could approach a decent level as an older amateur. I do use a 4H-2H at this point but also definitely have a problem defining shapes too early. We have 3 more hours in the pose next week, so I'll probably be able to clean it up a bit beyond just adding more features. See you 'round then!

[Anonymous No.6623332]

>>6615150

WIP. Inkwash and marker on Cold-Press Watercolor paper.

[Anonymous No.6623334]

>>6623332

God I'm an idiot.

[Anonymous No.6623428]

Plein air is hard. I need to add some variation to my strokes. I didn't hate this one when I did it but now that I'm posting it I cant get over how much it looks like a Brian. RIP.

[Anonymous No.6623707]

>>6597196
draw a butt on it first. then you can't ruin it any worse.

[Anonymous No.6624104]

>>6620466
That's good advice.

>>6621191
I do! It's fun!

>>6621232
I empathize a lot. I should carry a sketchbook, I often feel like I want to draw/paint, I get the urge but the algoritm has me in its claws. I get stuck overthinking stuff like what I should upload to IG, looking at tutorials, or most often just get stuck as a zombie in front of endless Youtube recommendations.

>>6621250
That's good advice! What kind of gouache and accessories do you carry with you? Would love to see your work you made on your break!, I've only tried using fineliners and pencils outside of my apartment but I like the idea of painting outside.