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6578231 No.6578231 [Reply] [Original]

Do you draw fucked up subject matters, like gore or shota/lolicon? If you do, do you feel it's wrong for you to do so?

>> No.6578237
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6578237

Their wording is a bit odd.

People should learn to separate fictional illegal acts from reality, it's common sense as they say.

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>>6578231
i draw beasty and it doesn't feel wrong because the four legged creatures im drawing getting plowed aren't real and don't look realistic at all
yet twittards will still get angry about it

>> No.6578244

>>6578231
atheists objectively don’t have morals

>> No.6578247

>Making illegal art is morally wrong
This is so fucking retarded I can't.

Anyways, dark subject matter as a general topic shouldn't be seen as something the artist is necessarily condoning, but there are some lines I don't think should be crossed. At the same time, I don't expect to be listened to so don't bother asking specifics.

>> No.6578253
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>>6578231
My only motivation to draw is shotas. I've always wondered why there is a bigger ratio of skilled lolifags/degenerate artists to normal artists. If you find a really skilled artist there is a high chance they draw weird stuff.

>> No.6578254

>>6578253
>My only motivation to draw is shotas.
giga based, me too.
I've realized it the moment i made some fanart and people commented the character looked like a child. i default to draw shota because it's cute and appealing to me. physically i cannot draw normal humans again.

>> No.6578263

>>6578231
A draw little girls in peasant clothes or sleeping in white pajamas

>> No.6578269

>>6578231
I like drawing lolis. I'd post it a on a different account but I think my style is recognizable enough for people to recognize it's me lol.

>>6578253
I have no idea why that is. I've got 2 possible reasons for that:

1. It's just a classic case of survivorship bias. You like loli/shota so skynet just recommends you skilled artists with similar subject matter instead of normal skilled artists.

2. This one is a bit far-fetched I think. Basically artists usually tend to be shut-ins. shut-ins tend to be porn addicts. Porn addicts tend to get so desensitized to normal porn they start finding weird fetishes like loli/shota hot.

>> No.6578271

>>6578231
Ironically I believe that drawing really sincere/heartfelt art where you express your actual feelings will get you judged much worse than drawing lolishit or gore
it's like people are desensitized to this shit anyway, I bet that the disapproval toward it is mostly posturing, but if your artwork is actually something intimate for yourself that's where they feel a real revulsion
I always felt like this

>> No.6578273

>>6578231
I don't draw gore or shotacon/lolicon, but I do draw incest art, and have aged up young characters to adults (not just "they're 18 here I promise" I mean that they're unmistakably an adult in the art). I feel zero guilt for it but I keep it a secret and only draw it for my own self indulgence. I've seen people receive death threats and callout posts for the drawing the same things I draw in private and I'd rather not deal with that

>> No.6578283

>>6578231
my dad is dead

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>>6578269
>. It's just a classic case of survivorship bias. You like loli/shota so skynet just recommends you skilled artists with similar subject matter instead of normal skilled artists.
i actually prefeer milfs. I dont really seek out loli, but they really stand out becaus eof their skill level on pixiv/hentai sites. The only hentai artist on the level of lolifags i can think of is Oltlo

>> No.6578289

>>6578237
Yup, anyone who can't tell the difference between fiction and reality is usually a commie.

>> No.6578297

>>6578269
nope it can't be survivorship bias, i end up finding an artist that is really insanely skilled through a random site, and then i dig a little deeper and they have drawn lolisho or some other degen shit, while all the safe artists i follow on twit just aren't as good. i draw fucked up stuff but i don't seek it out online so there's no way the algo (which stuff like e6 doesn't even have) is recommending me other artists of that nature

>> No.6578298

>>6578289
I don't care about legality or the distinction between reality and fiction but I think public debauchery and prostitution should be punished with death
pornfaggots belong to a concentration camp, if you wanna draw whatever fucked up shit in private that's all right but online spaces = public spaces and indecency should be curbstomped
yes I'm fucking authoritarian, I'm tired of seeing ugly shit everywere, evidently giving people freedom was a mistake

>> No.6578307

>>6578298
BASED

>> No.6578308

>>6578231
Why would this apply to some artists and not to others? Film industry puts on the biggest award show on earth to congratulate artists portraying criminals, serial killers, rapists, and abhorrent pieces of film, The Godfather, Silence of the Lambs, Apocalypse Now, Game of Thrones, etc, etc, etc.
Why that same appraisal isn't allowed to the same artists doing the same thing, just creating still images on a screeen? Wich are even less damaging that whole acted films with sound and global marketing.

I think small artists should be tougher, and kick back the faces of these faggots, they won't go to Francis Ford Coppola's face to tell him he is a psycho monster but instead they took their prejudices on the exposed little guys out there at their same level. I say, no. Artists are not at the same level of those whiny pieces of shit who consume violent crap in movies and put their hands together on the oscars awards, but then they took their inner guilt on the little guys around them. Fuck them.

>> No.6578310

>>6578298
the internet wasnt made for you, normalfaggot

>> No.6578312

>>6578271
I think emotional anguish is powerful, but your art shouldn't be about you. It is easy to detect even if you are not being direct too. In short passive-agressive cunts who speak through their likeable character to better sell their opinion are annoying.

>> No.6578316

>>6578310
>like 70% of people regularly watch porn (self reported so it's probably 90%)
>hating porn makes you a normalnigger
you are parasites
I hope every day that I'll be able to work in a concentration camp so I'll be able to personally handle the likes of you as well as gypsies and other human garbage

>> No.6578318

>>6578298
people like you ruined the fucking internet kill yourself

>> No.6578321

>>6578318
ah yes, because truly fart fetish porn and other shit is worth having somewhere in public. kill yourself coomer

>> No.6578325

>>6578321
>in public
turn your computer off and go outside niggerfaggot

>> No.6578345

>>6578231
Yes, but I don't think the image is morally wrong. However sometimes I feel it might be morally wrong to spend too much time creating it.

>> No.6578348

>>6578253
It's simple, you've said it yourself: motivation.
If i couldn't draw cute little western girls i wouldn't draw at all or nowhere near as much. The more someone does something the better they get at it (mind blowing stuff for /ic/ i know).

>> No.6578354

>>6578298
>internet is public
you commie piece of shit. You must be the worst kind of pervert fag

>> No.6578362

>>6578318
>>6578325
>>6578354
You only have to hope that the tables won't turn because you can stand assured that I'll become very real the second I'll have a job to do sorting you people into the trash. Just pray that your little cowardly depraved model of society won't ever go tits up. I want you to remember there are many, many people who hate the living fuck out of you and have burned through every shred of empathy they may have felt for you. You are like a tumor and many people would want you gone with absolutely no second thoughts.
So far of course, a man can only dream haha. It's all in Minecraft for now haha

>> No.6578366
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>Morality = Legality
How to spot human garbage who would throw you in the wood chipper if the government said so.

I'm a prude myself, drugs bad, alcohol bad, casual sex bad, but I'd rather bomb the UN before agreeing to half of what they try to push.

>> No.6578371

>>6578269
It's none.

Legal/normal porn is easy to find, illegal porn is clearly not so easy or they might even want to avoid it, so they have to work extra hard to make as much fictional stuff as possible in order to satisfy their thirst.

Passionate artists are better artists, and these people have a sex-driven passion to become accomplished draftsmen.

>> No.6578372

>>6578366
>but I'd rather bomb the UN before agreeing to half of what they try to push.
based beyond belief

>> No.6578373

>>6578366
I kneel

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>>6578362

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>>6578362
lmao

>> No.6578382

>>6578376
If the glowies ever come after me for telling internet trannies they should be exterminated I will gently point them to the gigantic drug trafficking operation taking place in broad daylight next block and tell them to sort that out first

>> No.6578384

>>6578379
I bet they got a computer scanning for "in minecraft" posts

Fuck you feds

>> No.6578385

>>6578298
>comes to a "public" porn square
>tired of seeing fucked up shit

>> No.6578386

>>6578385
this is the only website that doesn't make me physically vomit which says a lot on the quality of the internet

>> No.6578390

>>6578386
why do you use the internet for then ?

>> No.6578392

>>6578390
as you can guess, venting
I used to share the shit I made but I don't care anymore

>> No.6578393

>>6578386
4chan is the most vomit inducing of all the image boards still around. people here take baits so easily

>> No.6578396

>>6578231
Tell me your a schizo, without telling me your a schizo.
When I boot up Vidya and kill an npc in GTA, thats just a fantasy. It's no different than imagining running over Dave from accounting when he pisses you off for the 10th time that day.
Until something gets actually done, then it's just theoretical and meaningless. Researching, or planning to do something illegal does cross that threshold, but again, playing a Vidya, or watching a movie, or doodling, are all just harmless fantasies.
Lolis aren't real girls, neither are shotas, neither is random person on the streets in GTA, etc etc.

>> No.6578398

>>6578362
?
I am also in favor of public debauchery being a crime, but the Internet is not supposed to be an extension of real life, get the FUCK out of the Internet and don't look back.

If anything, there should be a "public, no-fun-allowed Internet" that is aimed at office workers, students and business, and then the real Internet, with no regulations whatsoever, the World Wild West was the best era and the more constrained we get, the gayer it gets.

I say that as an anti-coomer, they should still be free to post their garbage online.

>> No.6578399

>>6578382
Don't give them ideas. They will also put drugs on you on top of the mass murder threats. lol

>> No.6578410

>>6578231
I love loli and it's my God given right to be able to draw and share them with other appreciators. I honestly don't get what's so wrong about it

>> No.6578412

>>6578398
>the Internet is not supposed to be an extension of real life
Absolutely agree but normalniggers insisted on merging the two and that's not my fault

>> No.6578418

It is thruth that PRON is banned in china? Any chinese fags here to ask? Can you have or draw pron in private in china? What's the punishment for that, will they shoot you in a field whith a wooden stick full of chink letters tied on your back? ???

>> No.6578422

>>6578231
"Wrong" relative to what. It is wrong in the sense that it perpetuates and enables people to fantasize about taboo things that could find their way into reality in rare cases. It's right if it enables me to survive and help the people I care about. That's how I feel about NSFW. In this day and age of degeneracy, there's no turning back. Family and close friends are all that matter mostly. Degeneracy sells. People are sinful.

>> No.6578423

>>6578418
military service

>> No.6578426

>>6578418
it's banned but technically that isn't much of an obstacle

>> No.6578429

Illegal and immoral are two completely different things. Violent vidya glorifying violence creates more violence. Fictional rape porn creates more rape. It's just a fact of life and you're all stupid for denying this.

>> No.6578434

>>6578418
there is that guy that used to draw ryona and got sent to jail for 10 years, pretty bleak

>> No.6578436

>>6578231
I draw loli and shota occasionally. sometimes I wonder if I was molested and my mind blanked it out as a form of cope. I’ve read what the long term behavior patterns of molestation victims are and I was pretty mortified when I realized a lot of them apply to me.

>> No.6578437

actually I'm sorry for the particularly vicious exterminationposting, I've had a bad day
I mean I don't take back any of it because I really think you should all be exterminated, but I generally try to be ironic about it so it doesn't come off too hateful
>>6578434
never thought I'd say this but based China

>> No.6578441

>>6578437
>never thought I'd say this but based China
I knew it

>> No.6578446

>>6578441
I don't like China but look at what democracy has done in the West, people acting like animals. Maybe China's outlook is performative but I'd rather take a performative appreciation for decency and tradition including in art than the West's worship for animalistic nigger behavior

>> No.6578452

>>6578446
democracy is fine
it just the usa that fucked up everything

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>>6578366
>doesn't do drugs
>doesn't drink alcohol
>doesn't do the casual sex
>calling himself a prude because normies made not being a consumeristic dopamine chasing hedonistic cattle uncool
Drugs and Alcohol fuck you up for life and casual sex gives you stds.

If you drink Alcohol do it in moderation and at least treat yourself to good stuff instead of cheap beer and spirits.
Drugs are for fags and they destroy your body and casual sex is for whores and destroys your soul.
The opposite of
>Morality = legality
Is sadly
>Feels good = not wrong
They are the same kind of human garbage who would sell their mothers for a hit and diddle kids to bust a nut

>> No.6578454

>>6578437
if you having a bad day makes you sperg out about killing strangers you don't even know just because they draw porn on the side, then you must be a very disturbed and horrible person. work on yourself and get off the internet, get therapy etc

>> No.6578457

>>6578452
>it just the usa that fucked up everything
I agree but the USA is the whole western world at this point so that doesn't say much at all
look at Japan, it's full of pillow-humping sexual deviants who are free to show the world that they're sexual deviants and its society is imploding upon itself
the sad reality is that the majority of people aren't really sentient, so democracy is always in the hands of a few people who will steer these masses into agreeing to stupid shit and then defend it tooth and nail because they're entitled to it. It's always better to have a societal model that is antagonistic to the population, at least the roles are clear
>>6578454
Nah having a bad day made me say that without trying to put a joke in it lol I believe you should be gassed even on the good days

>> No.6578490

i draw gore and i might draw loli in the future (not together though). to be honest it's less about myself having a fetish for them and more that i want a vessel to express my disdain of and rebel against poor tasted feel good garbage and normalniggery

>> No.6578521

>>6578231
Zoomers is the end.

"This is the Way the World Ends: Not with a Bang but a Whimper"

I wish everything in the world wouldn`t went to shit after 2010.

>> No.6578529

>>6578490
>I express LE REBELLION with LE PORN!!!
>SO REBELLIOUS
>I post LE CHEESE PIZZA on LE CHEESE PIZZA FRIENDLY ART PLATFORM
>LE ANONYMOUSLY OFC
>and maybe I get LE PAID by LE COOMERS on LE PLATFORM THAT LE ALLOWS ME TO GET LE PAID haha
wow you really are a freedom fighter aren't you
to the gas chamber with you too, you might be even worse than the honest to god prostitutes

>> No.6578531

>>6578529
violent schizos like you are more dangerous to society than any degenerate artist ever will
i hope you're chained to your basement like a dog instead of being let near another human being, or you might attempt to judge and gas everyone you see

>> No.6578544

>>6578529
Who wants to fight for freedom? Get outta here fag
go be your superwhore wannabe on chinese minecraft

>> No.6578547
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6578547

I don't agree with the 'it's not real' argument. You can't be sacrificing real time, energy and attention into something and then pretend it doesn't matter because it's 'fake'. Your whole reality is what you attend to, so cultivate your salience landscape carefully.

>> No.6578550

Everyone that enjoy drawing shota / loli must have severe mental problems, you are not based for wanting to draw childs, you are just an undercover pedophile.

I could bet money you all shota/loli niggers keep it hidden from your parents because deep down you are embarassed of what you do and fear the consequences.

Good luck being secretive with that all your life losers.

>> No.6578551

>>6578547
what?

>> No.6578575

>>6578550
>be chadlke
>post your loli drawings under your irl name and facebook account
>often have your mom commenting ''cute drawing''
how does he do it?

>> No.6578585

>>6578551
They are pointing out that the media we consume and the environment we live in has an effect on our behavior. If all you are doing in your free time is playing brainless war games and watching brainless violent films, then I would like to ask you for some introspection. Are you sure you are not accustoming yourself to violence?

>> No.6578590

>>6578585
not that guy. i would often watch video game fatalities while eating. for fun. it only desensitizes me to exaggerated stylized violence but i still reel at rl gore

>> No.6578597

>>6578231
>insulting BIPOC artists so brazenly

>> No.6578611

>>6578231
gore isnt illegal. And if it's within context of a scene/story, it's not fucked up.

>> No.6578621

>>6578547
Take your meds.

>> No.6578631

>>6578531
you're scared by the prospect aren't you? Kek
don't worry anon, it's not gonna happen that society will finally shit you out like the waste matter you are

>> No.6578634

>>6578231
I’m a beg artist. But my aspiration is to draw lolis and feet

>> No.6578647

>>6578590
But why are you watching it? Ask yourself.

Do you watch it for the artistic quality to improve your own stylization of violence? Do you enjoy seeing fictional humans suffer? Why? Do you ever catch yourself thinking about being violent in reality for fun?

>> No.6578775

>>6578547
I agree with you but people here are too brain-fried

>> No.6578789

>>6578547
Liking loli is pretty much liking children.I don’t get why people try to separate the two when it’s just the truth. Any justification is really just cope.
I like loli though heh

>> No.6578808

>>6578631
i know, society isn't as mentally stunted like you

>> No.6578810

>>6578647
Do you really think life 40 or 50 years ago was less violent and fucked up than today?
Back then slavery was still a thing, teachers beat the shit out of kids, a father would kick the teeth out of his wife and children and it was ok because he was drunk.

The world today is fucking heaven in comparison with decades ago. This internet fuckery and perversion is not being acted IRL as before. Before this unleashed monster was out there IRL. Now people is getting more and more recluded, all this virtual violence works as an antidote neutering the human beast. Society is becoming less sexual, less violent, less impulsive. Everything is a mindgame now. Much like this fucking website. 90% of sexless asocial psychos laughing their asses off 24/7. They won't hurt anyone, they don't want trouble, they found their drug, and their happiness. The world is going that way too. I see it in the new generations.

>> No.6578822

>>6578647
>Do you watch it for the artistic quality to improve your own stylization of violence?
it's this. i'm watching it for entertainment, ideas and inspiration. what are these ideas for? my artwork, my game, i don't know
>Do you enjoy seeing fictional humans suffer?
and also a bit of this. stylish deaths are cool, i like because i'm bored of lazy ones where the character just keels over and fades away
>Do you ever catch yourself thinking about being violent in reality for fun?
no, but this is 100% what projecting/normie retards will think. not just for gore but for anything remotely "fucked up", surely the person indulging in it wants to reenact that in real life

>> No.6578825

>>6578810
That’s actually pretty true what you’re saying. I kneel to your level of optimism

>> No.6578832

>>6578810
>Now people is getting more and more recluded, all this virtual violence works as an antidote neutering the human beast. Society is becoming less sexual, less violent, less impulsive. Everything is a mindgame now. Much like this fucking website. 90% of sexless asocial psychos laughing their asses off 24/7. They won't hurt anyone, they don't want trouble, they found their drug, and their happiness. The world is going that way too.
i agree especially when the most violent and prone to impulsive actions faggot in this thread isn't the posters who are into this shit, but one authoritarian schizo against it

>> No.6578855

>>6578231
No, because I'm not retarded or religious like you.

>> No.6578911

>>6578832
>still scared shitless / ass destroyed
there are people who hate you, deal with it

>> No.6578929
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6578929

>>6578253
Based alkeposter

>> No.6578930

>>6578789
holy based

>> No.6579044

>>6578810
You are seeing a causality which isn't there. Seeing too much fucked up shit desensitizes a person to fucked up shit. Desensitization leads to their barriers to enact fucked up shit breaking down. This also happens with fiction, only to a much lesser degree.

>>6578822
>and also a bit of this. stylish deaths are cool, i like because i'm bored of lazy ones where the character just keels over and fades away
We have to dig deeper... Why do you enjoy seeing fictional humans suffer? Do you feel powerful? Do you think the look on the fictional character's face is funny while they're being killed?

>> No.6579051

>>6578231
I think drawing lolicon and shotacon should be punishable by excruciating death. Its the only way you can stop it, by putting the fear of God into people.

>> No.6579057

>>6578231
>Do you draw fucked up subject matters, like gore or shota/lolicon?
No.
>If you do, do you feel it's wrong for you to do so?
I'll answer anyway. I don't know. If it truly gives people an "outlet" and reduces offenses, then I'll accept it. But if it just deepens the addiction and makes them more likely to offend then I'm against it. I haven't seen persuasive data either way. I don't think someone should be prosecuted for drawing something.

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>>6578810
>Back then slavery was still a thing, teachers beat the shit out of kids, a father would kick the teeth out of his wife and children and it was ok because he was drunk.

That's absurd. The world of 1980 was not like that. Also you sound like you are about 13 years old.

>> No.6579074

>>6578789
but i don't like being called a pedo

>> No.6579094

>>6578231
>like gore or shota/lolicon
how is gore on the same level as loli?

>> No.6579098

>>6578244
you can have morality without religion, dumb nigger. Christfags only avoid doing things because someone told them the big man in the sky tells them they'll burn forever if they do them. Atheists don't do things because of their own moral compass.

>> No.6579103

>>6578789
I like lolis that look like petite women (an actual body type adult females can have) and act like adults.
I think loli that looks like actual children and have the personality of an ignorant child are fucking disgusting.

>> No.6579134

>>6578362
Restriction of Internet freedom will only serve to make the fetishes gayer, weirder, and more intense. You can't get rid of the tumor, faggot. You never will.

>> No.6579184

>>6579134
The internet is being restricted right now, idiot. It made the internet less fucked up. We need more well-meaning restriction.

>> No.6579216

>>6579184
It didn't make it any less fucked up. The only thing that changed is that the "fucked up shit" is a little harder to find than before. You can still easily find it if you try.

>> No.6579217

>>6579094
the morals of a modern society are twisted to the point of insanity

>> No.6579219

>>6579134
Exactly. The masters up there, they know what they are doing. The internet is what it is, because is what we humans make of it. Is our mind in there with all our inner shit and autism unleashed.
It's just a big psychiatric round table where everyone can say whatever he wants to say, and just "take it all out". It's just words and bits floating in the ether, is air, is nothing, but to some people it is like real life it self. Those are playing the game as well, they will get with the programme eventually.
All the potential psychos out there are living their sick fantasies all together in the nets, and they are getting through it, without dying, without destroying lives, it's a big teraphy program. And it's working.

>> No.6579226

>>6579098
Imagine being this braindead kek, the overwhelming majority of atheists support chopping off little boy dicks, that's all i need to say. I hope like you, that they'll burn in fucking hell you troon freak.

>> No.6579232

>>6578298
Absolutely based beyond belief. Normalization of pedophilia should be a crime.

>> No.6579234

>>6579219
I think that's a good thing. People think the internet made us insane but the truth is that we were always like this. If you gave a bunch of medieval peasants the internet, there'd still be scat/loli/furry/whatever porn in their communities. The only thing the internet ever did was reveal our true nature. Schizoanon is naive

>> No.6579264

>>6578231
i do gore

>> No.6579268

>>6579234
True. And also the muh degeneracy fags have to realize if they keep looking for things to be outraged by, they're just going to keep finding worse shit. And eventually it's too tiresome to care about it all.

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>>6578298
>>6579051
Closet guro/torture faggery disguised as morality.

>> No.6579398

>>6579184
In what ways?

>> No.6579428

>>6578253
>I've always wondered why there is a bigger ratio of skilled lolifags/degenerate artists to normal artists.

I too noticed this pattern when looking at furry artists, sure you have the deviantart sonichu schizo, but their top artists mog 99.9% of all non-furry artists, their fundies are on another level.

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>>6578789
based and true

>> No.6579524

>>6578789
The honesty is appreciated. You will be shot last.

>> No.6579525

>>6578231
Legality =/= morality
People like this shouldn't be allowed to hold voting rights under any circumstance.

>> No.6579534

>>6578789
>Liking loli is pretty much liking children.I don’t get why people try to separate the two when it’s just the truth. Any justification is really just cope.
>I like loli though heh
Well its because the term gets applied to multiple things. Like this anon demonstrated:
>>6579103
>I like lolis that look like petite women (an actual body type adult females can have) and act like adults.
>I think loli that looks like actual children and have the personality of an ignorant child are fucking disgusting.

>> No.6579558

>>6578231
lolicon hardcore porn

>> No.6579568

>>6578911
but enough about you

>> No.6579583

>>6578253
>I've always wondered why there is a bigger ratio of skilled lolifags/degenerate artists to normal artists.
They have more experience to draw from if they're serious about drawing those weird things compared to someone that just wants to draw one thing.

>> No.6579584
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6579584

>>6579302
funny how often (always) that happens innit
good thing those get exposed all the time

>> No.6579615

>>6579584
1) I'm not a gay twitterite
2) I don't play gay vidya
3) I don't care that you draw loli guro in private, you should be free to draw whatever horrible fantasies you have, as long as you don't peddle that shit to the world. My argument (because you fags are braindead and cannot read) was about sharing pornography in public spaces - and yes, the internet is a public space
I don't hate private perverts, I hate whores. I want all the whores gone

>> No.6579640

>>6579615
the internet is a public space and it isn't your personal safespace faggot. don't like it just fuck off of it

>> No.6579651

>>6579640
that's why I hope we go China style and you'll spend 10 years in a work camp
you normalniggers are undeserving of freedoms and rights

>> No.6579691

>>6579640
As with what happened with this site with loli/guro/furry and the Visa/Pornhub debacle and what will inevitably happen with sites like catbox.moe and lolicons IRL, you're not entitled to a public space when you repeatedly fuck up the experience for the rest of us. All it takes is one major kind, the right kind, of controversy to bring consequences down like a hammer. Payment processors (as with the Pornhub dispute) especially are willing to bend, and bend sites like Pixiv and break their backs like twigs.

>> No.6579741

>>6578231
>Do you draw fucked up subject matters
Got quite curious about gore. Shock value and making violent scenes more "real" and impactful, but I admit I do have limit of tolerance to that stuff.

>> No.6579749

>>6579741
I've drawn extremely graphic stuff for a comic but I hate violence. It's just that when I portray violence I don't stylise it, I want it to be ugly and vile as it actually is.
I really detest stylish violence

>> No.6579754

>>6579691
willfully going to a den of degenerates (4chan, art galleries, the modern internet at large) and going "durr why are there degenerates here it's ruining my experience?" is entirely on the retard doing it. degens are not entitled to a public space, no, but neither do the trannies buttmad about it. the public space can host whatever content the majority deems acceptable. have a problem with that, get your own safe space. tightening regulations changes nothing because people will just flock to/create alternatives and life goes on

>> No.6579814

>>6578457
>majority of people aren't really sentient
it is "sapient" you sperging nigger, as in "homo sapiens". Sentient means "can have emotions".
You will be gassed in second wave of purges as all the other useful idiots.

>> No.6579826

>>6579134
>Restriction of Internet freedom will only serve to make the fetishes gayer, weirder, and more intense
Yeah, remember 19th century? It was so full of fetishes and gay shit!

Go be retarded somewhere else.

>> No.6579829

>>6579226
>the overwhelming majority of atheists support chopping off little boy dicks
What the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.6579841

>chopping off little boy dicks
HOT!

>> No.6579865

>>6579829
i guess he's referring to the fact that almost all secular people are pro trans, probably because they view reality as malleable as long as they can find new words to describe how they want it to be, rather than how it is

>> No.6579868

>>6579098
>christfags only do stuff based on their made up god dude... enlightened atheists do stuff based on their made up "compass"
even jeffrey dahmer was smart enough to see how retarded your logic is

>> No.6579889

>>6579814
No I actually meant sentient, sub-chicken tier, amoeba tier level of consciousness

>> No.6579894

>>6579829
Holy shit nigger. It's the atheists that push for mutilating people, eating the bugs and living in a pod. And then you go ahead and say retarded shit like that kek.

>> No.6579919

>>6579894
says the kiddie fucker

>> No.6580005

>>6578231
its fictional and not real life though. if taboo things drawn in fiction are banned we shouldn't have murder or violence in mass media.

and art(even porn drawings) is a form of self expression. so its understandable if someone is judged for drawing loli/shota or gore. but at the same time it shouldnt be banned by force

>> No.6580030

>>6579826
This retard thinks everyone was living a puritan lifestyle until the internet surfaced

>> No.6580065

>>6580005
Ah yes this argument. While not everyone who consumes this content will become a sex offender, there is a great deal of overlap between lolicon and pedophilia. I've seen videos of groomers bragging about their "loli girlfriends" who referring to girls they come across as such. Ghislaine Maxwell had a folder containing actual CP labeled as "loli". The infamous Lolita Express. Traced CP identified by sleuths dumpster diving on Baraag and AllTheFallen along with the routine patrols by feds. With all this and how much pornography is being pushed in children's books getting found in school, Cuties, and other shit? You can cry how it's all fiction, it's not "1:1" or any of these retarded arguments to distract how it's affected shit in the real world. And don't get me started on the correlation between the furry fandom and "ferals", which very much applies to your "it's just fiction" bullshit. It lends credence to the "normalization" argument.

>> No.6580072

>>6579584
why is professional smash so full of pedos?

>> No.6580079

>>6580072
A lot of communities for Nintendo games are, sadly. It's not just Smash. Pokémon is especially horrendous.

>> No.6580081

>>6580065
lolita is from the book lolita, how ucultured are you? plus pedophilia in hollywood used to be worse, 'cuties' is tame in comparison to Pretty Baby and Leon the Professional

>> No.6580082

>>6579691
>complaining about degenerates
>on fucking 4chan
you sterile safe space is on reddit and twitter you tranny nigger. go back. 4chan doesn't even come up on google searches normally, you came here willingly

>> No.6580088

>>6579651
I think we will have two options, One, the western satanic free thinking realm, where everything is allowed. Full of occult, mysticism, kabbalah, greek and roman rituals with kids, new age, and all that shit.
And the other option, China, Russia style, with rules, christian values (russian option), moderation, humanity and common sense.
So people will choose freely one or the other. Once they feel like sub-human shit they will go east in search for redemption and cleansing, like some rehab therapy. The same on the other side, some people will feel that they are losing something in the degenerate world in the west, so they can go and get moraly raped and destroyed, at free will. And the go back home and heal. I'll be ok with that.

>> No.6580089

>>6580082
not him but coomtrannies were not as prevalent on /ic/ years ago, this place was full of wannabe concept artists and other people posting clean galleries
you tourist coomniggers literally metastasized this environment, fuck you

>> No.6580092

>>6580089
ic has always been a red board

>> No.6580095

>>6580092
it's always been a red board but it wasn't 99% porn, fucking retard mongrel

>> No.6580115

>>6580095
>99% porn
where, unless you mean that all animu is porn

>> No.6580117

>>6580089
>tourist
you fucking tard i've been drawfagging on here for about a decade now. coom artists have been on 4chan since the beginning and retarded newfags like you are the reason this place is shit, not coom artists. shoot yourself

>> No.6580118

>>6580095
/salt/ is one thread. there are more ai trannies and i cannot pet the dog fags and off topic /pol/ threads like this on this board than there is nudity and pornographic content

>> No.6580119

>>6580089
Same happened to DeviantA. There's something about total free thinking/will in humans that goes to unavoidable hell. Societies needs guidance and rules. But the west is deciding they don't need rules, they don't need guidance, no government, no leaders to follow. No "god". Now all these satanic faggots want to be "libertarians", they know exactly what they are doing, creating this cynical concept of absolute freedom to jump into the pits of hell.
They see Satan's brothel right there at the tips of their hands, and they can't hold on anymore, thay want to go in no matter what. The tears and sorrow will come afterwards. Is already happening. Sad.

>> No.6580126

>>6580119
>religious schizo
come on fuck off retard
do you seriously think coomers are a modern invention? do you think ancient societies and even authoritarian societies didn't have secret coom stashes, masturbation, and erotic artwork? fucking tard. christianity is a modern invention and you act like it defines realityin any way. kill yourself

>> No.6580141

>>6580117
Anon, I've been here for roughly around the same time. We had a dedicated thread for porn and enjoyed a huge boon in quality in both SFW and NSFW thanks to the concept artist boom that began roughly around that same time. We got along fairly fine until the whole red-blue board split because of all the drama that kept happening on the coom threads were no longer contained. It took months to restore it, but the damage was done. Most of the best artists fled to Discord servers and places like Crimson Daggers.

>> No.6580145

>>6580141
sounds more like an issue with forums being replaced with discord than coom artists "taking over". nobody wants to use 4chan for anything other than coom and /pol/ now
all the SFW artists flee to discord
all the good posters flee to discord
most communities host all of their content, events, etc. in discords
i fucking hate discord

>> No.6580149

>>6580089
I'm fine with porn artists having their own threads as long as what happens there stays there. I did notice a lot of the insitigators of the worst drama were lolicons.

>> No.6580152

>>6578393
Not really. I won't link the alt boards as they're onion links but yeah, 4chan is baby tier level.

>> No.6580165

>>6578298
You are on a website that was created by a guy who left another forum because hentai was banned on there.

>> No.6580398

>>6578308
It’s exactly that, online artists are a lot more accessible and mentally vulnerable than people who work on popular live-action media. A rich film director with guaranteed work isn’t going to care what some rando online says, but artists notoriously care too much about the simplest, dumbest comments, and let it drive them to self destruction. They get harassed because it works.

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>>6579826
The world at the time was not just Victorian England, anon. Pic related is the interior decoration of a 19th-century lacquer mirror-case from Iran, of all places.

Moreover, there was some sleazy stuff happening in prudish Victorian England as well, such and the Cleveland Street Scandal, or the case of the brothels ran by Mary Jeffries:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Street_scandal

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jeffries

>> No.6580661
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6580661

>>6580126
I'm not religious. I am a realist. I am AWARE of what's going on in our society. If the world would be divided like this >>6580088 I would choose to stay in this shithole, I'am part of the landscape, I was rised in this crap. I don't go to church, I don't care about others, I'm out of the system, I lose time here shitposting and laughing, but I would not rise children in this hellhole.
Some people are not aware of what are they being part of. They will bring kids to a world were they will end up necked after their fucked up minds got infected by transshit, or fentanyl meth or whatever, or their porn hub - only fans - furry carreer didn't paid off, or they couldn't survive a broken leg or some cancer because the medical bills are out of their reach.
I am aware of all that. Some people believe they can fool themselves or others thinking they can "hide" all this shit with words. Or if they shut their eyes the monster will just go away.

>> No.6580667

>>6578253
Because the stuff they are into is illegal IRL so they escape to art to recreate their fantasies. It's probably healthier this way for everyone as opposed to banning the stuff so they finally break down and go after the real thing.

>> No.6580671

I draw loli for enjoyment and for money, it is simple as that, no time to question morals or whatever

>> No.6580687

>>6578231
>its illegal to paint Jesus in such a way!
>Burn the artist!!!!!

>> No.6580757

this thread and the schizo ads about salvation convinced me that religious faggots should get gassed

>> No.6580817

>>6578298
Check this shit out:
https://4chan.org/rules
You can't just go to a public park, square off a patch, and start enforcing your own rules on it. You don't get to show up to a town square and declare that other peoples' presence there is a privilege rather than a right and that you can remove them arbitrarily.
The internet is all private and that will never ever change.

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6580823

I was having such a relaxing time sketching before going to bed. But between the moralfag schizos in this thread and the 80 billion AI threads I think I had enough of /ic/.

>> No.6580825

>Like loli art
>Don't like lolicons
Is this normal? Half of them are just obnoxious and terminally online, and they're always making up arbitrary rules (lolis can't femdom, lolis can't be a certain height, etc)

>> No.6580829

>>6580687
>it's illegal to enforce the law that way!!!
>burn all white bussineses!!! kill all asians!!!

>> No.6580832

>>6579919
says the kiddie mutilator

>> No.6580862

>>6580825
That's just western retardation

>> No.6580895

>IF ITS NOT TECHNICALLY ILLEGAL THEN ITS NOT GROSS IF I LIKE IT AND WANT TO CUM TO IT. YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO ACCEPT AND LIKE ME AND NOT THINK IM A FREAK

these people are completely disconnected from the real world and painfully naive. Usually 17-25 year old males with no responsibilities or healthy social relationships. You can be a gross freak if you spend all your time alone, but you can't trick yourself into thinking that you want to be alone your whole life. You will break, and when you do you will either realize what a horrible mistake you've made and wish your life had taken a different path or you will kill yourself or die alone in your room.

Don't fuck around with sin like that. I don't give a fuck if you're religious or not.

>> No.6581086

>>6580817
Anon, the internet as a whole is a public network. Nothing remains private forever. And it won't be random schizos deciding the rules. It will be those who host the servers, the payment processors, etc. What was allowed in the early days of the Internet will continue to be cracked down on until a reliable and automated means of enacting their definition of an "appropriate justice" comes to fruition.

>> No.6581129

>>6580895
>You will break, and when you do you will either realize what a horrible mistake you've made and wish your life had taken a different path or you will kill yourself or die alone in your room.
is this true anon did you the killed yourself

>> No.6581284

>>6581086
Do you not understand the distinction between private and public property?
>It will be those who host the servers, the payment processors, etc
Private owners, rightsholders and capitalists. 'Public' entails things for which no natural person or a rightsholder may make a claim for. The internet is not that. Literally the bottom of this page declares that I own the post I'm making right now. You're just a communist who wants to take away the natural inalienable rights of humans.

>> No.6581380

>>6580823
same

>> No.6581390

>>6580823
i have a very bad habit of lurking the corresponding community on 4chan whenever i engage in a hobby but the schizos and bad opinions and lobotomized retards ruin my day every time. this board in particular has always been only worth it for the resources

>> No.6581859

>>6578298
>authoritarian

you are not authoritarian you are a prude little bitch, probably low test. are you a christcuck?

>> No.6581888

>>6581859
people who unironically use the word "christcuck" are the swarthiest, most disgusting trannies alive

>> No.6581906

>>6581888
christcucks are the lowest IQ hypocrites in existence, and often with the most depraved fetishes -which includes fucking trannies despite having wife and childrem

>> No.6581910

>>6581906
KEK, projecting much?

>> No.6581912

>>6581910
oh, so you are a swarthy tranny then?

>> No.6581919

>>6581912
you literally can't be this much of a drooling nigger kek

>> No.6581943

>>6581919
whoa
as I said, low IQ

>> No.6581974

>>6578298
Id call this mindset based if it worked as advertised but in practice all the people with your mindset accomplish is to get the most milquetoast of cheesecake for straight men censored while all the smut for women and gays goes unscathed.
You are just unwitting golems for feminism.

>> No.6582180

>>6579226
I thought that was a jewish and american thing.

>> No.6582696
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6582696

>>6578298
>they hated him for telling the truth

>> No.6582737

>>6578231
A drawing has only a meaning for us humans and that’s because it’s simply an abstraction in 2 dimensions, so just like we see faces in the front of a car, we usually recognize those lines and colors as something we know from the real world.

That being said, no.

>> No.6582748

>>6579826
it was, actually. Retard

>> No.6582769

>>6578231
No and no. The more I interacted with such people the more I grew to despise them. Last time I dealt with a lolicon he argued for lowering the age of consent after months of fiercely denying his "fetish" for underage fictional characters had no correlation to IRL pedophilia.

>> No.6582918

>>6579428
1) its a viable career path
2) what they want will never be real, so the only way they will get good shit is through drawing it.

>> No.6583476
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6583476

Know these are faggots spewing "christcuck" on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.

>> No.6583517

>>6582769
the age of consent only exists to ensure femoids have a triple digit body count and inability to pair bond before entering the legal system of ruining men's lives forever. the argument always goes that it would enable predators, but in reality people would be getting married at 13-14, the way nature intended

>> No.6583532

You know this thread brings up an interesting question. Have you ever jacked off to your own art /ic/?

>> No.6583539

>>6583476
False flag and off topic. Contribute for once, you monkey lipped nigger.
>>6578789
I liked stylized lolis.

>> No.6584198

>>6583517
>in reality people would be getting married at 13-14, the way nature intended
you are making it up

>> No.6584213

>>6584198
Why do you say he's making that up?
Do you know nothing of history?

>> No.6584217

>>6584213
im saying the "way nature intented" is bs.

>> No.6584233

>>6578231
I draw both

>> No.6584236

>>6584217
Well nature doesn't give a shit about marriage but which do you think nature prefers, young or old?

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6584247

>>6578253
>If you find a really skilled artist there is a high chance they draw weird stuff.

I'll take the opposite stance of most people. I think everyone has "weird stuff" they want to draw, but for lower skill levels they lack the capabilities to do so.
Its only skilled artists that can properly pull off weird shit so they're the ones who do it. But a /beg/ trying to just draw a good picture is usually going to play it safe and won't branch out into weird shit.

So to take an example, footfags tend to be pretty skilled. But how much of that is because only skilled artists who've practiced anatomy and foreshortening can properly draw footfag poses? While a shitty artists balks at the idea of drawing hands, let alone feet.

>> No.6584271

>>6584217
Blind studies have shown men find teenage girls attractive, just how it is. 18 is an arbitrary cut off age both from childhood and adulthood. Now some groups are saying it should be moved up to 25

>> No.6584308

>>6578253
>I've always wondered why there is a bigger ratio of skilled lolifags/degenerate artists to normal artists. If you find a really skilled artist there is a high chance they draw weird stuff.
>>6579428
Because they will break the laws to go further in their works.

>> No.6584311

>>6580119
>>6580661
I honestly think it started when arranged marriages were removed from the equation and we made more superficial laws to distance the youth from the developed, pushing more for pure free will and chaos.

>> No.6584315

>>6580825
>>6580862
Rachel Alucard sexy.
>>6580895
The real sins are apathy, lust, and isolation. Homoshit deserves to burn.

>> No.6584317

>>6584217
nature doesn't give a shit about the arbitrary laws we have set. when you are sexually viable, you are sexually attractive. it's basic biology.

>> No.6584318

>>6584271
>Now some groups are saying it should be moved up to 25
I fucking hate Neanderthals and being one of them. We could have more pleasures without the fear and constants we’ve set up.

>> No.6584319

>>6584247
>While a shitty artists balks at the idea of drawing hands, let alone feet.
Drawing the chest is honestly so much harder to do than the hands and feet.

>> No.6584329

>>6584271
>Blind studies have shown men find teenage girls attractive, just how it is. 18 is an arbitrary cut off age both from childhood and adulthood. Now some groups are saying it should be moved up to 25
Everyone matures at adifferent rate, but just because you find someone attractive doesnt mean you should marry them.

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6584574

>>6578789
What normalfags don't understand about pedophilia is that it's just as much of a sexuality as anything else.
There are plenty of people who can masturbate to cartoon children because, similiar to the kinsey scale, they are "pedo-curious".
Would you call this person a pedophile? In a casual conversation, probably not, but tons of men have at the very least a slight interest in young pubescent girls.

>> No.6584577

>>6583476
>literally called TNDtracker
kek, you are fucking retarded

>> No.6584580

>>6578231
Not a pedophile and drawing lolicon is highly illegal where I am, but I absolutely LOVE drawing loli.
I frequently get messages by pedos telling me how hot the kids I draw are and the various naughty things they want to do them and that's a huge turn on for me.
I also feel bad for them because both society and law is set out to destroy their only safe outlet, so I feel like I am doing a good thing by fighting back.

>> No.6585171

>>6584574
pedophilia is about pre-pubescent children.
Hebephilia is about post-pubescent children.

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6585322

>>6584317
>>6584574
>>6584580
>>6585171
Picrel

>> No.6585332

>>6585322
posting this image makes you worse than a pedophile.

>> No.6585389

I love drawing pedo stuff of my aged-down waifu. I am still a /beg/ but nothing sits me the fuck down like drawing porn of my imaginary lover.

>> No.6585444
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6585444

>>6579826
It was, as depicted in this engraving from the 1884 book "La prostitution contemporaine : étude d'une question sociale".

>> No.6585447

>>6585322
You are not helping, Hans.

>> No.6585454

>>6585444
Was that a chapter in the adventures of Tom Sawyer? I think it was. Or was it Huck? I'm sure Mark Twain wrote this scene in one of those books.

>> No.6585455

>>6585332
>>6585322
one day for no reason at all

>> No.6585490

>>6585444
there were already footfags in the 1800's? what the fuck

>> No.6585590

>>6578418
technically it is banned, but the crucial point is whether do you make a profit from the porn. If you didn't, and if someone hates you so much and reports you to the police, or you're very unfortunate that the local police needs to meet their yearly KPI, you will get caught and detained for couple days, and issued a warning.
But it gets serious if you've made money with your porn drawing. You will be sentenced to prison from 3 to 10 years depending the amount you've made. (Btw actually molesting child in China gets you less years than selling fantasy porn)

>>6578434
that guy made lots of money, and he did not just do some random gore porn, but something with themes including fascism, sex slave, cannibal, etc. He also wrote settings like manifestos alongside his work, thus things got very ugly for him.

>> No.6585657

>>6578231
> actual pedos are posting CP on /b/
>tourists complain about loli/shota on /ic/

>> No.6585729

>>6585657
Anon, as shown by this thread, there is no fucking difference.

>> No.6585733
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6585733

>>6578298
This. It was completely understandable before troglodytes were given rights to the internet via 2009 with smart phones for porn to be "open" on the internet because it was extremely limited to sites you had to search for just to find it. Now it's everywhere and advertised on purpose to children for profit. And now trannies, troons, groomed kids and self hating traitors of the US have porn be a personality, which is just a replacement for Christianity. Shit's fucked.

All porn should be made physical again and porn on the internet should be a death sentence to the entire family. Then everything will go back to normal (aka pre 2009) again.

>> No.6585743

>>6578398
>, but the Internet is not supposed to be an extension of real life, get the FUCK out of the Internet and don't look back.
Nigger that hasn't been fact since inception, the issue is millennial kids that grew up on the Internet assumed that's how the internet worked as long as you stayed "anonymous" and shitposted about the world's problem instead of "taking it seriously" but to any other generation of person; that was never reality of the internet. The Internet today is exactly how the Internet would have been from the very first webpage if the Internet wasn't 1000000 times slower and accessible as it is today.

>> No.6585762

>>6585733
Can you demonstrate how kids watching porn is an issue?

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6585781

>The famous pipe. How people reproached me for it! And yet, could you stuff my pipe? No, it's just a representation, is it not? So if I had written on my picture "This is a pipe", I'd have been lying! —René Magritte

>> No.6585784

I've drawn hyper-obese/deathfat diseased/unclean toonloli slob scat.

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6585804

>>6578231
>The famous pipe. How people reproached me for it! And yet, could you stuff my pipe? No, it's just a representation, is it not? So if I had written on my picture "This is a pipe", I'd have been lying! —René Magritte

>> No.6585821

>>6585490
do you think new human behaviors just magically manifested with the internet? the idea that everyone lived a puritan lifestyle before today is so naive it's embarassing

>> No.6585822

>>6585733
the only thing worse than coomers are authoritarian puritans. you a fuckwit if you think your proposition would solve anything

>> No.6585890

>>6585590
And the artist's handle is?

>> No.6586147

>>6585743
Herpderp, if you want to be a purist, the Internet was a war tool, or at best a communication tool for companies/schools.

>> No.6586409

>>6585762
Causes mental illness unlike having real life sex.

>> No.6586411

>>6585822
Cope pedo, I'd lynch you all just like everyone else would do to nigs and jews.

>> No.6586415

>>6585762
Causes body images issues. If you think every dude has a foot long shwang and every girl has innie lips and no hair you are going to be insecure and misinformed. Of course this is also in a culture where children aren't exposed to nonsexual nudity much as well which compounds the issue.

>> No.6586419

>>6584580
I love drawing shota stuff but I hate these types of comments. Made me stop posting online.

>> No.6587216

>>6586411
keep dreaming

>> No.6587265

>>6586411
>Making open death threats on 4chan
Careful anon, you might get arrested.

>> No.6588248

>>6578231
I often think about this but I’d consider doing it on an account where nobody knows me lol. I don’t think it’s wrong though.

>> No.6588274

>>6588248
It will be found out and tracked to your main, eventually.

>> No.6588344

>>6580152
kill yourself disgusting freak

>> No.6589930

>>6578393
>4chan is the most vomit inducing of all the image boards still around. people here take baits so easily
>>6580152
>>6588344
There's stuff worse than 4chan on the clearnet.

>> No.6589938

>>6588274
how

>> No.6590078

>>6586415
>Of course this is also in a culture where children aren't exposed to nonsexual nudity much as well which compounds the issue.
Yeah. That stuff can turn everything sour since they can only look at the body in one shallow purpose. Instead of being what we really are, it’s a tool of exploitation.

>> No.6590226

>>6578231
She's right. You shouldn't make something illegal.
Note: loli/shota/gore is legal to draw in most jurisdictions. AI """art""" is plagiarism and illegal in most jurisdictions. Embrace cunny and reject machinery.

>> No.6590294

>>6578231
>omori avatar
discarded

>> No.6590317

>>6590226
They would be charged under obscenity, and there's been a significant effort to push for stronger laws to bring more prosecutions as of late. Mastercard and Visa are already putting pressure as well.

>> No.6590362

>>6578298
Fucking retard. If you're an artist, gatekeeping what people are allowed to draw makes you lower than a piece of shit. You're a failure as an artist and you don't deserve to post in /ic/ or 4chan. Go back to toyhouse.

>> No.6590371

>>6578298
>I don't care about legality or the distinction between reality and fiction but I think public debauchery and prostitution should be punished with death
>This means I will ignore camwhores of every level, but pornfaggots deserve the rope
Cease existence in this earth

>> No.6590398

>>6579826
>Yeah, remember 19th century? It was so full of fetishes and gay shit!
You REALLY don't know how the internet was in it's early days when these people flooded in, do you?

>> No.6590414

>>6584247
>I think everyone has "weird stuff" they want to draw, but for lower skill levels they lack the capabilities to do so.
I can confirm that
>wants to draw "weird" stuff, but is too /beg/ to make it look nice, so just train on pinups

>> No.6590502

>>6578231
>
yes I do
>
not really, many years back I shied away from it because I was afraid of what would happen but once I started actually doing it I realised there's almost nothing people could do to me that would make it worth giving up
art and my imagination is the one thing in this world that is truly mine, I'm done letting the world scare me into coloring within their lines

>> No.6590609

Well, big bellied women? From stuffed of food to well, pregnancy, can it count?

>> No.6590683

>>6590609
Not really, but don’t give anybody any ideas

>> No.6590686

>>6590294
isnt this ironic didnt isnt the omori maker a shotacon themself

>> No.6590832

>>6578231
i plan to be just a fetish artist but im allowing lolis purely to spite twitter(also a few artists i follow join the twitard side so fuck them)
>>6578237
indeed

>> No.6590876

>>6580088
Where do you retards crawl from? Do you even believe the bullshit you spew?

>> No.6590883

>>6590876
It's already happening.

>> No.6590887

>>6590883
In your mind maybez
Get out, get fresh air, call your mom

>> No.6590896

>>6590887
Keep projecting anon. But that childish defensive mechanism won't change the world around you.

>> No.6590916

>>6578810
based, i kneel

>> No.6590917

>>6590896
constantly feeling like the world is totally ruined is not gonna help you.

>> No.6592110

>>6578231
I'm fine with gore and things like that but I find shota/loli repulsive. I don't think anyone should be prohibited from drawing or consuming it though. That said, I think it's also fair to consider those people disgusting and avoid them.

>> No.6592133

>>6584574
I have a bigger issue with people that do it just because they're curious or a pervert. At least with pedos they don't get the choice. Choosing to do it when you can manage with other material says some nasty things about a persons character.

>> No.6592209

>>6578298
>online spaces = public spaces
This is a narrative that you are to retard to understand being a lie
That's like saying Mcdonal's seating area is "public"

>> No.6592301

>>6592209
Anon, the internet is indeed a public space as is most of the internet. Barring paywalls, anyone with private internet service, 5G, or access to a free Wi-Fi can visit anywhere and anything.
>All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties
If an IP holder demands something be taken down off here or something like catbox, they have to comply. If offenses are repeat, they may bring those parties ti court.
>Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster
If you post CP, you're fucked.
>Comments are owned by the Poster
More of less part of the above. You are fully accountable for what you post here, and the consequences thereafter. Freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence.

>> No.6592339

>>6592301
Two questions:
1- What is the responsability of the lurkers(consumers) that "take" whatever they find in sites like this?
2- If the "criminal poster" in question isn't available by any means, is the platform/web responsible at the end?

>> No.6592549

>>6592133
>Choosing to do it when you can manage with other material says some nasty things about a persons character.
Like what? Why do you always have to insert a way to discriminate against a group of people?
If someone wants to watch lolicon responsibly, just let them ffs.
Stop treating people like a ticking timebomb as soon as children are involved.

>> No.6592856

>>6592549
>as soon as children are involved
Way to out yourself, pedofaggot.

>> No.6592869

>>6592856
Yeah, I am a pedophile. What's the next point of your argument?
The problem is so big that you think you've made a point by calling other people in a discussion about pedophilia, pedophiles.

>> No.6592892

>>6578231
loli, shota stuff is not illegal where I live, but it won't prevent me from thinking you're weird for drawing it.
I like drawing gore, it's like even more retarded anatomy practices

>> No.6593056

>>6592549
The only people I'm discriminating against are the ones that can't even muster the self control to avoid using that kind of material if they don't need it. There's no excuse for that really, it's just a lack of restraint.
I'm generally pro sex but there's lines you just shouldn't cross, for your own sake even.

>> No.6593105

>>6593056
Do you say the same thing about porn, drugs, video games and anything else that may have a negative influence on you?
30-40 years from now when the pedo hysteria has died down due to the overton window shifting, what you're saying right now will be considered laughably biased and old-fashioned.
The only reason you're making an exception for lolicon is due to your social conditioning, not because you are rational.

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6593318

>>6578362
>I JUST FUCKING HATE THIS WORLD, AND THE HUMAN WORMS FEASTING ON IT'S CARCASS

>> No.6593328

>>6581390
>>6580823
because 4chan is 5% normal people and 95% depressed incels shitposting, they only pretend to have shit takes to bait replies because starved for attention

>> No.6593429

>>6593328
>shit takes
twitter tourist

>> No.6593472

>>6578231
>Do you draw fucked up subject matters, like gore or shota/lolicon
No

> If you do, do you feel it's wrong for you to do so?
N/A

I am grown up man, so I don't really feel to need to masturbate like an teen. Nor do I try to compensate for an abundance of lusty ressources ruining my childhood by avidly looking for "new experiences" like a hobo drug addict

haha

>> No.6593490

>>6578231
Loli/shotacons and guro fucks are free to draw whatever they want. Artistic freedom, all that.

However when it comes to posting on the internet about your desires, you are inevitably opening yourself up to ridicule.
Don't be surprised when people treat you like the degen you are if you talk ad nauseum about how much prepubescent bodies gets your rocks off.
Loli/shotacons should just stop sugar coating it and admit they use drawings as a legal loophole.

>> No.6593500

Will I go to hell if I draw my mom and sister being raped to death by niggers?

>> No.6593525

>>6593490
>legal loophole
there's no loophole. you either have freedom of speech and expression, or you don't.

>> No.6593918

>>6593490
I know some people use it as a "substitution" and honestly that's way better than the alternative. One has a victim and one doesn't.

>> No.6593993

>>6578298
BASED BASED BASED
Distributing e-heroin = DEATH PENALTY
PORNIGGERS GET THE ROPE

>> No.6594004

>>6593105
You're the worst kind of pervert

>> No.6594092

>>6593490
>and admit they use drawings as a legal loophole.
Least bootlicking redditor, mindbroken by the concept of laws.

>> No.6594582

>>6578231
>you should feel bad because it's illegal
One could argue it's immoral, but to be this much of a literal state cuck and believe that simply because it's against the law somehow makes something inherently wrong
Don't tell this braindead retard that it's illegal to be gay in Kenya

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6594598

>>6578253
> If you find a really skilled artist there is a high chance they draw weird stuff.
it's not fair bros, those damn furries seem to be able to render seemingly effortlessly while I struggle just to get a grip on lighting and color

>> No.6594599

>>6594092
Libertarian faggot, are ya?

>> No.6594600

>>6584308
>Killing an animal, skinning it, and using the skeleton, skin, and organs for anatomy practice is illegal

You know there is roadkill daily right? and slaughterhouses?

>> No.6594613

>>6594598
Why is it not fair? They aren't squandering their talent, they're making what they want to make which demands technique and motor skills and years of practice.

>> No.6594631

>>6578585
>Violent means brainless

Yes Dantes inferno, The Three Muskateers, The entirety of Shakespeare, And all the Sherlock Holmes books are completely braindead. Dunno who Would ever want to read such filthy rags

>> No.6594640

>>6578585
>>6594631
side note, have you ever tried reading the oddyssey? Its actually hard not to feel sick with how exact Homer was with who got bisected how and where blade deflected from bone etc etc.

>> No.6594642

>>6593105
if we survive 30-40 years it will actually be more like china. Or Brave New World.

>> No.6594654

>>6578810
>tfw you're still mentally in 2000s and forget its been 20 fucking years

>> No.6594759

>>6594599
You don't have to be a Libertarian to think that life exists outside of legality.
A lot of people obtain genuine happiness out of lolicon without hurting any real children, it's not anything like a marketplace exploit, and you're trying to take that away not because it will but because it *could* save an undefined amount of children.

>> No.6594780

>>6593490
>open yourself up to ridicule
I don’t mind ridicule. I just hate when it’s outright banned and censored unfairly.
Not everyone has to like it but if you’re serving up an art platform you should allow all types of art whether you agree or disagree with it, that’s the point of art anyways.
And I personally love guro and horror based drawings, but I get very upset when everyone else is allowed to post weird disgusting cringe ass shit, and I’m even allowed to posted borderline tentacle rape, but the moment I post a slightly creepy character it’s gets deleted and I get warned I’ll be banned if I do it again, just because of a parasitic cat which was tame as fuck.

People can mock me all they want, but mock my art and let me post it

>> No.6596596

>>6590686
Pretty much.

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6597115

>>6585322
>>6585455

The age of consent was 14 in Nazi Germany, although seducing an "unblemished" girl of less than 16 years of age could be a crime. No one misses a slice off a cut loaf, after all.

>> No.6597759

>>6597115
>The age of consent was 14 in Nazi Germany
It still is 14 in modern day Germany.
We don't consider 14 year olds children, but "teenagers", which is a whole different legal entity than what we traditionally consider to be a child.

>> No.6597780

>>6578231
no, because I'm a grown ass man who loves his passion, who's grown up to appreciate the hard work that goes behind it all and I don't need to disrespect what I love.
when you're older you'll get it

>> No.6600115

>>6597780
Based.

>> No.6600535

>>6593500
>Will I go to hell if I draw my mom and sister being raped to death by niggers?
its REALLY weird to draw gross things of real people.
theres a reason shadman got all that criticism for drawing that guys daughter

>> No.6600538

>>6586415
>Causes body images issues. If you think every dude has a foot long shwang and every girl has innie lips and no hair you are going to be insecure and misinformed. Of course this is also in a culture where children aren't exposed to nonsexual nudity much as well which compounds the issue.
SO basically its only an issue, because our only source of info about naked people is oversexed porn?

If people had decent educaiton we wouldnt have the problem