/alt/ - Alternative Stylization Thread

[Anonymous No.6544922]

Previous thread: >>6482888

What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly, keep discussion at a civil level
>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
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>Community Resources
>Tag the OP if you want a resource included here.

[Anonymous No.6544933]

Last thread had a lot of better images to pick for the OP of this thread
But this'll do I suppose

[Anonymous No.6544940]

>>6544933
What? Whats wrong with this one?

[Anonymous No.6544941]

>>6544933
Which ones were your favorites? I had a hard time choosing. I wanted something that was finished and not just a sketch. Also didn’t want to get the OP confused with a /fag/ or /lag/ OP in the catalog.

[Anonymous No.6544954]

>>6544940
Nothing really, it's just not very representative of /alt/

>>6544941
My favourite has to be this one >>6514322
very cool style, simple coloring but fun to look at, fits like a glove in /alt/

[Anonymous No.6544973]

>>6544954
I used to pick his drawings all the time as OP, but I guess it’s been a while. I was looking for Nika’s sketchbook page, but I think that was in the previous thread. Sometimes you just gotta spread the love around on your belly after you nut.

But these threads are so slow it’s like we have the same OP for 2 months.

[Anonymous No.6545082]

Some gals

[Anonymous No.6545089]

>>6544922
This pic shouldve been on pixiv and twitter. Not in this shithole.

[Anonymous No.6545092]

>>6545089
I'm confused, isn't the OP image AI generated?

[Anonymous No.6545095]

>>6545092
lol it isn't

[Anonymous No.6545117]

>>6545095
its over

[Anonymous No.6545672]

>>6544922
Finally, an OP picture that's actually good

[Anonymous No.6545691]

will you guys stop bitching about whatever the OP picture is and just post your fucking work.

[Anonymous No.6545707]

>>6545089
it looks like its AI generated
Pixiv has way too much of those recently

[Anonymous No.6545852]

>>6545095
it is, notice how this image is not in the last thread at all. OP just wanted to see if it would pass or troll and it did.

>>6545117
This basically

[Anonymous No.6545867]

>>6545852
it is in the last thread, post number >>6538135
but I agree a lot of the elements look like AI randomised slop, the connection of the skirt at the bottom left, the colors. etc. Not to mention the overall image makes very little sense

[Anonymous No.6545872]

>>6545707
Pretty sure it is, there is one box that is giving it away on our right

[Anonymous No.6545876]

>>6545872
How so? The boxes are all following perspective

[Anonymous No.6545877]

>>6545867
Pretty sure that's Magallan from Arknights
pic rel is one of the designs in game

[Anonymous No.6545878]

>>6545876
You're looking the wrong axis and missing the tape from inside

[Anonymous No.6545879]

>>6544941
Keep lying you ai shitter
>>6532099
>>6527363
>>6501859
>>6490363

[Anonymous No.6545880]

>>6544922
Its probably a bad idea to use ai art tier renderings for the op of stylization threads
its stylization art generals, dude. Not render study generals

[Anonymous No.6545884]

Look at all the crabs lmao

You will never make it and your art looks like shit

[Anonymous No.6545893]

>>6545878
Hi I'm the faggot who made that painting. Thats true, I didnt quite get that box right. hopefully this quick fix is better.
If you got any more advice I'd love to know!

[Anonymous No.6545906]

>>6544922
Someone made that from these threads? Holyshit finally some appeal congrats on your success.

[Anonymous No.6545910]

>>6545906
He is using AI

[Anonymous No.6545912]

>>6545893
What is that thing around her hips? What’s going on with the clothing in general? Is there an original ref?
I know AI picked up from real styles, but I’m gonna be honest this looks really similar to AI art that’s been painted over

[Anonymous No.6545915]

>>6545912
I’m open to being proven wrong though, if you really did do this from scratch, congrats anon!! It’s so good at it’s mistakable for AI. Might be a wise choice to switch up your rendering style just a bit.

[Anonymous No.6545920]

>>6545915
Not him but that anon has been posting on /ic/ before ai art was a thing.

[FlashFirePrime/HallowedMarmalade No.6545922]

>>6544922
I hope one day to be crabbing as hard as this

[Anonymous No.6545926]

finished this recently

[Anonymous No.6545930]

>>6544922
>>6545893
You warped the box to fix it, messes up the drone with it and don't fix it plus the corner of that box now has some really harsh grey artifacts from using a HRB where before it was airbrushed gray. Certainly you would have the boxes layer separated from the yellow bloom allowing an easy fix

[Anonymous No.6545931]

>>6545920
Understandable, it really sucks that the introduction of AI makes me second guess every over rendered style lol. It looks good anon, gmi.

[Anonymous No.6545933]

>>6545926
really like the shapes and angular lines but the way you colored feels muddy to me

[Anonymous No.6545935]

>>6545912
>>6545915
>>6545910
>design
idk dude its just what the design in game looks like
>ai fag
Ive played around with the NAI leak for Stable diffusion before but its just too incosistent at good perspective and is more useful for seeing what kind of lighting works and how something could maybe look. Either that, or I'm too retarded to get it to work. I don;t even use 3D either I just want to get better at drawing.

[Anonymous No.6545941]

>>6545935
Fix the warped robot

[FlashFirePrime/HallowedMarmalade No.6545942]

>>6545926
Wow... love this

[Anonymous No.6545946]

>>6545935
Cool anon, sorry for the doubt. Although, I still think her original outfit design is nonsensical. That’s not ur fault, though.

[Anonymous No.6545949]

how do I make the leg perspective look less fucked?

>>6545893
>viper cover in corner
i laffed

[Anonymous No.6545963]

>>6545941
I hear you. Idk why you're so adamant on fixing it though, its so far back in terms of value that most people wont even look there. Theres your lil robo guy I guess.

[Anonymous No.6545971]

>>6545963
kek

[Anonymous No.6546008]

>>6545935
okay i believe that you drew that yourself
as an advice, probably change your artstyle to not look too generic like AI does, theres no future in heavily rendered art. Try to make your own style only unique to you.

[Anonymous No.6546010]

>>6545852
>>6545867
>>6545877
Here's the artist and they don't mention anything about using AI art https://twitter.com/SubuArt/status/1630912006214631426

[Anonymous No.6546071]

>>6546008
"Fuck off crab.

[Anonymous No.6546077]

>>6546008
So, it's come to this then.

[Anonymous No.6546082]

>>6546077
yeah. the pic in the op is no better than photorealistic digital artists posting their works while cameras are a thing.
you either stylize or be insulted to oblivion.
no country for generic anime.

[Anonymous No.6546103]

>>6546077
well, yeah. this is /alt/, not /asg/.

[Anonymous No.6546110]

>>6546103
It's not that, this board is a far cry from what it was a decade ago. I never thought I would seriously hear something like to work on your own style, it's surreal.

[Anonymous No.6546355]

>>6546110
Most if not all the good artists left or fled to Discord servers. Only the schizos and a small handful of drawfags remain.

[Anonymous No.6546856]

doodling something new, I like the way it's turning out so far

[Anonymous No.6547969]

Some stylized head practice, still not sure how to draw side profiles in this style

[Anonymous No.6547992]

>>6544922
is this AI?
I genuinely can't tell anymore

[Anonymous No.6548006]

I need to figure out drawing mouths better, but I'm trying more solid line art and different face proportions for this one. She's a gnome

[Anonymous No.6548009]

>>6546856
Reminds me of when Vimhomeless was good

[RR No.6548474]

This one took me some time to finish, done on an A3 paper, so it's a rather big drawing.
In this scene you can see 3 members of the Earth Defense Force: Anatoly, Beatrice and Cord, each showing their special powers (Hulk mode, shield generation and energy shooting respectively). They're also joined by Major Red Star, a superhero representative of the USSR.

[Anonymous No.6548477]

>>6547992
It's okay, you're not alone in this.

[Anonymous No.6548612]

>>6545082
hot

[Anonymous No.6548981]

>>6548006
Why the FUCK do you draw noses like that
Holy fuck that's some ugly shit

[Anonymous No.6549015]

>>6548981
I'm still experimenting with some aspects. She's a gnome, so I want to keep her nose bigger than average but guess I still missed the mark.
I'll try again at some point but I'm open to suggestions.

[Anonymous No.6549469]

>>6548981
i fucked yo mom

[Anonymous No.6550113]

How come my posts got deleted from the last thread? :3

[Anonymous No.6550117]

>>6544922

[Anonymous No.6550128]

>>6544922
It's starting to take shape

>>6550117
That's really cool, I was almost too embarrased to post my drawing right after this post

[Anonymous No.6550183]

>>6550128
what? nonsense. you drawing looks great btw. very solid construction and composition.

[Anonymous No.6550352]

Really struggling with her legs and proportions on the second pose, I don’t know if it’s fixable or I need to start over. She’s meant to be riding the vacuum cleaner

PS how can I make my art better in general? Ideally I want to move towards something kind of like this >>6550128

[Anonymous No.6550770]

>>6550352
Now draw me having sex with her

[Anonymous No.6550982]

[Anonymous No.6551011]

What kind of art do you want to see more of in the world?

[Anonymous No.6551064]

>>6550982
What is she holding?

[Anonymous No.6551137]

Yesterday was national cereal day. Ive always wanted to draw all the cereal mascots. Like cocoa puffs shitting into your cereal bowl.

>>6550113
Tits are a little wonky, but fucking nice

[Anonymous No.6551240]

>>6551137
Tableguy my dream is to have you acknowledge one of my drawings

[Anonymous No.6551319]

>>6550128
This is as far as I'll take this picture with my current raw skill, after this I need to sit down and do what I don't like doing: studying. I could've added so much more to this picture with stuff like texture on the grass or the feather

Still happy that I pushed through and finished it. More or less like the end result

>>6550183
Thank you, I'm just insecure. I'm glad the composition came through, that's something I want to implement more into my work

>>6550352
You already draw well enough and have a very appealing style. If you want to get better you could probably get a lot of mileage from figure drawing, construction techniques and more extreme perspective (although it looks like you already have good grasp on those)

[Anonymous No.6552474]

>>6551137
how do you do it? this is hard to beat.

[Anonymous No.6552484]

Dead general

[Anonymous No.6552513]

>>6552484
Post some alternative artwork if you want it to live then

[Anonymous No.6552523]

>>6552513
>>6552484
post your works and stuff

Every night, doin you right.drpa2x

[Anonymous No.6552594]

>>6552513
>>6552523
No.

[Anonymous No.6552804]

>>6544922
i finished this
would like some critique and tips pls

[Anonymous No.6552860]

>>6552804
Well what do you want critiqued? is there any part of this that you struggled with? anything you don't like how came out?

[Anonymous No.6552868]

>>6551137
>Tits are a little wonky
Something something don't throw stones in glass houses.

[Anonymous No.6552888]

>>6552860
>Well what do you want critiqued
everything desu
but the colors/rendering is what gave me a pretty hard time
im not exactly new to digital, but pretty unexperienced with it

[Anonymous No.6553002]

>>6552888
There is no rendering in your picture, all the colors are flat
The perspective is decent and you are showing some understanding of light with the cast shadow that goes over the boy's shoulders

[Anonymous No.6553174]

>>6551011
more of >>6551137

[Anonymous No.6553727]

>>6551137
Ahh thank you so much for pointing out! Stared too long and confused myself, tried fixing it in this coloured version, hopefully better?

[Anonymous No.6553922]

>>6544922
AI is winning I see

[Anonymous No.6554731]

Happy miku day! Fun fact: the US is one day behind japan. So miku day is actually today if you live in America.

I tried to see how far i could push the legs and longness. I can’t go any further with my current skills.

>>6553174
A few people have told me that they like the cereal drawing, but i think everyone is too scared to like it on twitter. So its all a wash. It’s kind of one of those sad consequences of social media. That drawings that people silently like will not be seen. The internet deserves AI.

>>6551240
If only you had drawn something attached to this post, you would have gotten your wish

>>6552474
Seems pretty obvious to me. Milk squeezed from fruit juice tits. Also rabbits have multiple nipples. I dont see how else this could have been drawn. I did have help from a friend to have the breast milk be colored to contrast the bowl of milk.

>>6553727
Definitely better I also do the rear long boob a lot. Most of the time its almost completely occluded, but i always want to draw the underboob and it gets me everytime.

[Anonymous No.6554763]

[Anonymous No.6554816]

what can i do to make this yae miko illust more sexo

[Anonymous No.6554861]

>>6554731
I shamelessly liked your cereal drawing on twitter tableguy

[Anonymous No.6554941]

>>6554731
I don't use twitter so I can't like and or subscribe to you're facebook.

[Anonymous No.6555034]

>>6554816
I'm not sold on the 3dness od her hair, looks like 2d hair rendered rather than 3d chunks. I feel like the outline is too dark too, the blackish outline looks stark. Maybe a softer red outline?
Beyond that, kino

[Anonymous No.6555083]

>>6550117
Nice work

[Anonymous No.6555206]

[Anonymous No.6555312]

>>6554731
No one likes disgusting things.
You only draw disgusting things.
No one likes you.
Basic logic that you're too inept to comprehend.

[Anonymous No.6555315]

>>6555312
I like tableguy

[Anonymous No.6555316]

>>6555312
pyw jellyfag

[Anonymous No.6555317]

>>6554861
What's his blog?

[Anonymous No.6555322]

>>6555312
whatever tableguy drew represent his soul
his style of work is very reminiscent of Jhonen Vasquez
If he knew people, knows how to write and makes comics he could be directing a cartoon series

[Anonymous No.6555326]

>>6555322
I'd watch a cartoon series directed by tableguy

[Anonymous No.6555327]

>>6555312
I love his art so much its unreal

[Anonymous No.6555339]

>>6554731
lmao it's true then, you're the fuck tard spamming AI threads here because you're seriously butthurt about attention that others are getting, I knew it because you're constantly whining about it. fuck you bastard

[Anonymous No.6555341]

>>6555322
Vazquez is incredibly competent in plenty of areas. This retard meanwhile is nothing more than a hideous doodler. Don't compare them.

[Anonymous No.6555356]

>>6555341
>This retard meanwhile is nothing more than a hideous doodler
I beg to differ

[Anonymous No.6555368]

>>6555312
Love a bit of tableguy.
You postless bitches wish you could match his output.

[Anonymous No.6555373]

>>6545082
mmmmm blog?

>>6545926
very cute, I'd push the saturation on this a bit so it pops.

>>6550113
damn this is soul. By a fucking scanner though. This deserves it.

>>6550117
Velites, my beloved! blog?

>>6551319
very nice! good use of the little landscape feature too!

>>6552523
I like this a lot, I'd almost lose the decal behind though. Feels a bit slapped on distracts from the figure. But good work.

>>6554731
this one came out really nice. Composition is really tight. The hands maybe got away from you a little and the draft linework in the background could be tidied up, but over all really good.

>>6554763
very moody colouring.Feels like the complexity of the background is fighting for attention from the characters a little. Maybe de-emphasize those hard, bold lines on the background objects, especially the tall grass.

Latest WIP

[Anonymous No.6555533]

>>6555312
>they hated him because he told them the truth

[Anonymous No.6555538]

>>6555368
>nooooo, we 4channers arent degenerates noooo
>zoophilia/pedophilia general threads exist on a board to learn "art", we are far from our glory days now when we cared about art more than whoever has the most likes on twitter drawing porn

[Anonymous No.6555553]

>>6544922
prompt?

[Anonymous No.6555796]

>>6555538
This. Seeing what this board has become is depressing as hell.

[Anonymous No.6555807]

>>6555312
>>6555341
>>6555533
>>6555538
>>6555796
you don't even draw

[Anonymous No.6556180]

I feel like i've lost my way. I want to break out and try different angles instead of the regular front view camera shit, but i keep snapping back to the comfort zone

[Anonymous No.6556187]

>>6556180
There is nothing wrong with doing stuff you're comfortable with as long as you make an active effort to get out of it from time to time, or to implement elements you usually don't into your comfortable work
With that being said, cute Mamizou and cute Kosuzu!! blog?

[Anonymous No.6556189]

>>6555807
this kills the crabs

[Anonymous No.6556218]

>>6556187
>make an active effort to get out of it from time to time
man, you're right. I gotta do that more often instead of once every 2-3 months
>blog?
https://twitter.com/VengereZN

[Anonymous No.6556263]

>>6556218
Draw Mamizou giving birth to me

[Anonymous No.6556291]

Retro Miyazaki fanart. Anything to critique about it? Besides the lack of lineweight.

[Anonymous No.6556354]

>>6556291
Just realized I forgot to draw the cape on Pero the cat, will be fixing that.

[Anonymous No.6556371]

>>6555327
>>6555326
>>6555317
>>6555316
>>6555315
t.tableguy

[Anonymous No.6556391]

>>6556371
>>6555316 here faggot
Not a samefag

[Anonymous No.6556410]

>>6556391
go away tableguy....I think i hear your kid drowning in the tub while you samefag on /ic/

[Anonymous No.6556421]

>>6554861
Thanks buddy

>>6555339
>>6555312
You misunderstand what i dislike about the not liking. It’s complicated to explain. I would be ok if my drawings had consistent likes or consistent unlikes. But it’s not consistent. Unoriginal pencil sketch fanart always performs better than original content that has lots of thought and effort put into it.

Nothing upsets me more than when a boring study or some fanart gets escape velocity and breaks 100 likes. Why are you following me? THOUSANDS of other artists post WAY better studies, way better fanart, and do so way more consistently. Why are you here? You probably stumbled upon my blog from the last piece of fanart and didnt know what kind of restaurant you wandered into.

It’s like i dont want to draw for you normie fucks. I want to draw for the guy who likes batwing titties and penis nipple poop jokes. But you came to my restaurant and leave a rave review about some everyday cheese burger and now a bunch of people are crowding the space and preventing the other patrons from enjoying the chef’s special.

Thats why i say the internet deserves AI art. Because it’s trained on something that everyone likes, and therefore everyone on the internet will like it. All the artists that do the same deserve to lose internet points to AI. I do not mourn for them. Eat your cheese burger art. Be upset that a machine can make a cheese burger that is just as tasty. And no, i dont post in those threads because there are too many replies and i am too old to keep up with the conversation.

>>6555373
I drew all the arms and legs so long i needed the hands to be really long and big too. It started to distort too much and I couldn’t figure out how to solve it proportionally.

>>6555796
>>6555538
I dont know how long you guys have been here, but ic has been pretty much the same over the past 10 years. Even the AI shit settled down. It took a little longer than the NFT chapter, but it’s way less annoying now.

[Anonymous No.6556422]

>>6556421
Ran out of space to post my drawing in my wall of text

After reading them several times, i think caption D is the best. But i like B because mushrooms eat decaying leaves. I was also very excited that i found a new way to draw multiple boobs by chaining them together and putting a giant boob on the end.

>>6556371
>>6556410
That wasn’t me

[Anonymous No.6556424]

>>6556421
>PEOPLE DRAW THINGS THAT ARE WIDELY APPEALING??
>THEY DESERVE TO BE REPLACED BY AI!
You're legitimately despicable. Utter sociopath.

[Anonymous No.6556427]

>>6556410
WTF you talking about?

[Anonymous No.6556428]

>>6556421
kek that post a while back ago shitposting you on whining about lack of Twitter popularity were right - this post of yours verifies it. now you're also hoping AI takes over solely because you're asshurt about popularity. jesus christ constantly crying about attention is bad enough, but you're also hoping for other artists to fail because you're jealous?? this is just deranged

[Anonymous No.6556434]

>>6556422
awful...just awful

[Anonymous No.6556437]

>>6556427
stfu tableJERK!

[Anonymous No.6556443]

>>6556424
Stop putting words in his mouth you 80 iq mongrel
the internet has rotted your brain

[Anonymous No.6556445]

>>6556443
Tableguy is a dick tho. You're defending a dick. good job I guess.

[Anonymous No.6556448]

>>06556445
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.6556455]

Tableguy has always been so happy go lucky how the hell did he manage to attract an autist with a hateboner KEK

[Anonymous No.6556458]

>>6556437
Fuck off mikufaggot

[Anonymous No.6556463]

>>6556455
>Tableguy has always been so happy go lucky
not really, he's always had an annoying retard side to him especially when he goes on about his "misunderstood genius that sheeple just don't get."

[Anonymous No.6556499]

>>6556421
Nah, the concept art era was the best to get advice

[Anonymous No.6556525]

>>6556424
>>6556428
Like i said, it’s hard to describe. Everytime i wall of text, i try to explain it differently, but then when you guys summarize it so succinctly, thats never what i mean.

I couldn’t care less about any other artist succeeding or failing. I dont know them. But i dont resent them the same way i dislike the people that they make their art for. But then I resent the artist for making art for these kinds of people.

Maybe it’s like this, Artist A
>I made this art because I wanted everyone to see it.
>I wanted maximum exposure.
>I drew something that could easily be consumed by all people
>this thing that we all understand and relate with is what I wanted to say
I dont consider this artist to really be expressive or find it actually important that they made their art. Why make it, if we all agree on it. Why make it if everyone else is already making it. Your thoughts as an artist are actually the same as everyone else’s thoughts. You all like the same things. What was the point.

Versus Artist B:
>I made this because few people know about it
>I made this because its unpopular to think this way
>I want to show other people the way that I think vs drawing what they think or want
Personally i want to see more of Artist B’s art. I dont know why other people want to see person A because it’s not new. They didnt add value or express new content. They summarized known good content in a way for everybody to agree on that it is still good.

The reason why i don’t like social media, is because it only rewards Artist A to make them more popular, and Artist B will be drowned out because it targets a niche.

Success on social media is based on popularity, and AI is also based on popularity and training data. It literally trained itself on all the most popular easily consumed references images that everyone likes. It’s like they were made for each other. And I was made for neither. Maybe AI will encourage more people to become Artist Bs.

[Anonymous No.6556538]

Not sure if I'm taking my art in the right direction by actually using line weight and cartoonish proportions, but at least the process is fun.
Hate that awkward phase between style shifts where it feels like you are regressing.

[Anonymous No.6556572]

>>6556538
I like it, although I think you could honestly go even harder on the line weight variation and shapes
look at some Imaishi stuff and scale his style down to wherever on the spectrum you want
could even throw in some perspective / foreshortening depending on how adventurous you are>>6556538

[Anonymous No.6556617]

>>6556572
Yeah, I could go further in this direction. I was thinking like Imaishi, for that art on the right I also was picturing Yuji Uekawa. I want to go into more exaggerated proportions and interesting lines but I feel sad leaving my style on the right behind, especially cause it feels like the peak of what I was trying to achieve in 2022 and I wanted to explore it more.

[Anonymous No.6556619]

>>6556617
>I feel sad leaving my style on the right behind
Whoops, meant left, the ponytail girl with her tits out.

[Anonymous No.6556636]

>>6556525
>explained our popularity worked
Great job retard, now let me simplify it for you.
Artist A draws (let’s say bunnies)
People love bunnies so a large amount of people like the art because it’s cute so we can deduce that artist a’s audience loves bunnies and cute things.
Person B draws (bunnies but black and on the verge of starvation)
The same people from artist A’s group is gonna look at this and think “it’s a bunny but why is it so fucked?” Now very few people will be attracted to the picture.
Get how it works now? Now let’s check out AI art
Non-artist C wants the same attention as artist A without having to put in the work so as the lazy piece of shit he is, he starts putting artist a’s art into a machine to generate original bunny art
Artist A’s group looks at this and fucking malds because you can clearly tell it’s been taken from artist a. Group bullies and harasses the shit out of non-artist c until he deletes his account out of shame. Only tech bros like AI art. End of story

[Anonymous No.6556944]

>>6556525
honestly it just sounds like copium with the added bonus of "I d-don't care! tho!"
and while you most likely put yourself in the "Artist B" you don't want to search for or take interest in other Artist B's.
You've said before you don't really care about other artists, even though you're complaining about all the "Artist As" drowning out the "Artist Bs" who are doing new exciting things.

You accuse people of misunderstanding & misrepresenting your posts, I don't think that's the case. They are just presenting the things you said to make you look like a douche...and you take issue with that. because you're a douche

[Anonymous No.6557256]

>>6556636
Lol, I don’t like AI art either, but I also don’t really like the “cute bunny art” that it is based off of. They can both exist away from me and it doesn’t change my feelings for them. I’m not going out of my way to save the cute bunnies. I don’t feel bad for them at all.

>>6556944
It’s really hard to text wall on ic. That time would have been better spent drawing. But I thought about it, and you’re right. A wall of text is copium. I do care. That’s why I wrote it. But I’d rather write the wall of text than change what I draw to make people happy. Yesterday I discovered that I like to draw to make people upset and cringe. And I don’t like to draw to make them happy and give them what they want. I guess that does make me a douche.

The point still stands that I dislike social media because it’s designed to make it difficult to find artist Bs. And I don’t want to just browse a bunch of artist As. I know I don’t belong with them. It does make you feel bad to be somewhere that you don’t belong and try to show your stuff to people who don’t want to see it. Then have them tell you to draw something else they they like. Or that “I’d like to be your friend and support you but my other friends wouldn’t like me and I can’t be seen with you, but we can be secret friends” it’s like a classic school playground scenario.

But it is fun to discuss on ic, I like reading your responses. Which is why I keep bringing it up. You guys are probably like 15.

[Anonymous No.6557259]

Faggots

[Anonymous No.6557393]

>>6551064
Idea was like a spiral sword, I guess it’s pretty half assed

[Anonymous No.6557431]

>>6557256
>“I’d like to be your friend and support you but my other friends wouldn’t like me and I can’t be seen with you, but we can be secret friends”
I'll be your truthful friend tableguy

[Anonymous No.6558005]

Finally finished this sketch. I have to transfer it to another piece of paper because i fucked it so hard with the eraser. I am going to try a light box tomorrow. Let me know if you have any pointers. Or minor edits to the sketch.

>>6557431
I’m friends with all the anons of ic

[Anonymous No.6558156]

anime girl sketch

>>6545933
>>6555373
thanks. colors/render is probably my weakest area so im working on them a lot right now

[Anonymous No.6558174]

>>6558156
also i missed commenting on some things so
>>6550117
>>6551319
>>6554763
>>6556180
these all really rock, love them. good shit.

>>6554816
honestly id crop closer, and spend a bit more time on the BG? not necessarily rendering it out but maybe even the opposite, figuring out where to lose it and where to add detail to integrate it, it just looks a bit clumsy if i stare too long.
besides that, small details / personal pref stuff like the back being slighty too flat and transitioning oddly into the neck, the top of the shoulder extending slightly too far back, the jaw being slightly concave on both sides before the chin, the way the clothing rides the ass not looking quite symmetrical in 3D perspective.
you can know where to hmu if you want a really nitpicky RL instead of my terrible writeup though
I don't think any of it stops it from working for the coomers (like me) though, im p sure i liked it when i saw it on twitter w.o noticing any of this

[Anonymous No.6558179]

I should study more of pilyeons faces to get better at them.
Unfortunately I feel like half of them are constructed wrong at the end of the day.
Though even then they are better than mine so idk.

[Anonymous No.6558287]

>>6558174
redline i guess. I don't care for wishy washy explanations

[Anonymous No.6558353]

>>6558174
Personally I disagree with jaw, and back crit they look look to me so i dont give fuck. Not sure what you meant about the ass, neck and the bg so I gave it a try. I still think the bg looks ok, just the blur was a bit uneven, everything is still in perspective and frames the character. Honestly though, idk this will actually make it noticeably better because these changes literally nobody will noticed (even my other illustrator friends) and will notice. I think its just bullshit autism at this point

[Anonymous No.6558356]

>>6558287
Now you know why every time you post others will start crabbing immediately
because you're an arrogant asshole lmao and every single redline you've got in the past was ignored - assholes only want dicksucking and nothing else
nothing wrong with being cocky if you've got the skills but yours are barely /int/ after all these years

[Anonymous No.6558362]

>>6558353
>autism
No, you've just been surrounding yourself intentionally with sycophants so of course no one's gonna say anything wrong.

[Anonymous No.6558364]

>>6558356
I'm just really direct about my comments. I still changed it based on what the guy said, but I can still disagree with what he says based on personal preference. Most of the redlines were bad, and when they were good, I did make an effort to try and fix them. Most of the time though, I ended up trying it and people I trusted told me contrary advice saying (it was better this way, etc. etc). I don't mean to come off as an asshole.

[Anonymous No.6558370]

>>6558362
Not really, most of the people I surround myself are around or much better than me and have similar goals and aspirations. The difference is they actually draw and can show me directly and defend their logic instead of acting annoyed when I disagree or question them.

[Anonymous No.6558913]

>>6551319
I initially posted the sketch for this image in /asg/ because it seemed more anime-esque to me but once I slapped in the colors and finished picture I changed my mind

I like doing these pieces with simple backgrounds, feels like eating bread: generic and tasteless but familiar and comforting

Next one's gonna be a big one

[Anonymous No.6559027]

>>6558370
Nta, but you should be nicer to people in general. Even if you think they're less superior than you and your friends artwork. Everybody has a different skillset and life experiences that what you have.

[RR No.6559491]

I've been drawing Plants vs. Zombies related things, so I tried to draw them as kids.

[Anonymous No.6559602]

>>6558005
sorry tablefriend, couldn't unsee this. keep up the great work, curious to see this finished

[Anonymous No.6559648]

>>6558287
something like this maybe? no major changes but just slight adjustments and adding some definition like adding a bit more of the ribcage / muscle underlying the back or making the ass a bit more symmetrical in how the clothing rides it, adding a bit more convexity everywhere
this is just my personal take on it, it could be right or wrong

[Anonymous No.6559890]

>>6559648
>based anon actually redlines instead of talking shit
Yeah this good, I can take some aspects of this, thanks!
>>6559027
The amount of times ic has been wrong or just tried to blatantly troll with comin in with good intentions from the start I stopped caring a long time ago. I've learned that people will still shit on you anyway even when you're nice. I don't think you've been on ic for too long friend.

[Anonymous No.6559946]

>>6558356
he's just salty because people found one of his work was a blatantly copy of another artist painting in other thread and after that he had a meltdown

[Anonymous No.6559956]

>>6558356
>>6559946
jealous

[Anonymous No.6559959]

>>6559956
cope

[Anonymous No.6559963]

>>6559959
jealousy is a horrible emotion to feel
I hope you realize this, for your well-being and your peers' as well

[Anonymous No.6559965]

>>6559963
I wasn't the one who got so jealous that I traced another artist's work

[Anonymous No.6559993]

>>6545935
How big are you drawing this? One of my biggest hangups is line art.

If I make my canvas really big so that my lines aren't pixelated, then my lines become hard to see when I'm drawing while zoomed out.

[Anonymous No.6559995]

>>6544922

[Anonymous No.6560107]

>>6559993
nta but just make your brush size bigger to match?
also check your aliasing since that might be contributing

the only limit to canvas size is your RAM and storage space, otherwise more is always "better" since you can always downscale to fit target resolution / DPI. (obv dont go crazy like more than 8k x 8k, although iirc some Riot artists do that)

personally i go for about 4k x 4k

[Anonymous No.6560196]

>>6559890
>The amount of times ic has been wrong or just tried to blatantly troll with comin in with good intentions from the start I stopped caring a long time ago. I've learned that people will still shit on you anyway even when you're nice. I don't think you've been on ic for too long friend
You've stopped caring, but you still come back to hopefully get a different artists honest advice on something that you can't get from any other website. And my advice is to at-least give people 1 solid chance before disregarding them. It will be better in the long run. I posted here in 2021 and have improved thanks to many things combined.

[Anonymous No.6560280]

>>6558156
started another illustration, i will secure the RT this time

[Anonymous No.6560341]

>>6558913
Really cool stuff, love the Rembrandt triangle on the tit
>>6559995
That's sick! have you drawn more stuff like this?
>>6560280
That's really cool and hot, what is this character from?

[Anonymous No.6560357]

>>6560341
kotoka torahime, vtuber

[Anonymous No.6560363]

>>6560357
Gross and a waste of your skill
good drawing though

[Anonymous No.6560365]

Can I get some pointers on how to make this look less bad? I'm stuck.

[Anonymous No.6560386]

>>6560365
What do you mean "less bad"? what are you trying to accomplish with this image? do you like it? what do you want it to look like? what other image inspired you to create it?
I'm sorry for responding to your question with many more questions but it was a bit vague
If you want a general pointer, don't do shadows with flat black, or if you do, don't overuse it: as it stands right now it looks like there is a huge black rectangle in the middle of your picture

[Anonymous No.6560403]

>>6560386
Well, by 'less bad' I mean "are there any mistakes and how do I make it more appealing generally" I guess. I don't really have any specific artists I'm trying to emulate, maybe himukai yuuji (pic related) for the hard black shadow thing, but I guess I'm just generally trying for a generic appealing anime style.
>do you like it
I don't like it and that's why I've come for help. I can't tell what it is I don't like about it and I think because I've been looking at it for so long I can no longer really see what I should fix to make it more appealing or if there's any proportion issues or otherwise.
The black rectangle is supposed to be the tv they're playing a game on. I originally had it more to the right and more of a 3/4 view so maybe I'll go back to that.

[Anonymous No.6560459]

>>6560365
Lighting highlights, blue screen -> blue highlights n shadows.
? Idk//

[Anonymous No.6560589]

>>6555373
I used the scanner from work for this one :^D hope ur happy. Thanks anon!

>>6560365
Awhh man this is comfy..

[Anonymous No.6560593]

>>6545082
Ive seen your art on twitter or instagram before. good stuff

[Anonymous No.6560629]

I said hey QT

[Anonymous No.6560718]

>>6560280 anon here

>>6560365
>>6560403
looking at the artist you linked, they have really strong drawing and form fundamentals and those hard black shadows work in concert with that.
the shadows have to support the underlying structure by increasing the clarity and conveying to the viewer the (imagined) 3D space.
>you're using cast shadows in addition to the shadows within the subject, both are black and reducing clarity, for example the blonde girl's legs: is that black part the shadow her leg is casting? is it her back leg in shade? it's ambigious. same with her ass, is it half in shadow, or is that the shadow its casting?
>look at your drapery, some of these folds feel very noncommital and abstract, for example look at the elbow corners, it doesn't feel "real", i can tell what it is but not in a way that conveys an *imaginary 2D* real 3D space (its an oxymoron i know). it doesn't feel nearly as deliberate as the shapes in your inspo.
>look at your process vs theirs, notice how in their drawing the lineart is visible throughoutt he final piece whereas in your drawing it looks almost entirely painted over w.o outlines. for the style youre trying to emulate the power of their lines adds so much to their forms it seems odd here that you would go for such a painterly approach.
this isn't to say what you have completely sucks and you should go back to loomis for 10000 hours or w.e ridiculous /ic/ thing, i think its cute and has lots of appeal already, but if you want to compare to a professional japanese illustrator and push it further then there's always room to go
not at home and can't RL rn. hopefully the text explanation wasn't too awful or confusing. let me know if you want one anyways, ill try to do one

[Anonymous No.6561041]

>>6556538
Are these your ocs? I Kind of want to draw them
I like your proportions too

[Anonymous No.6561052]

>>6561041
Right is my OC, left is my character wearing Monster Hunter Nergigante armor
Thank you a lot and feel free to draw them

[Anonymous No.6561216]

>>6557393

>>6558913
> Next one's gonna be a big one
Looking forward to it

>>6559995
V cool

[Anonymous No.6561279]

Hello

[RR No.6561280]

>>6559491
So, I was reading one of the Plants vs. Zombies comics and came across a story where the characters are teaching the plants how to live along with other people and became inspired to draw this scene I thought was cute.
I'm wondering if I should just draw their hands with five fingers instead of three.

[Anonymous No.6561710]

>>6554763
Tkmiz pilled, blog?

[Anonymous No.6562382]

Im currently trying to get better at drawing different/more interesting outfits on characters. Do any of you have suggestions for artists/references that have a good understanding of fashion?

[Anonymous No.6562419]

>>6560459
>>6560718
Thanks for the help, you really hit the nail on the head with the stuff about himukai and how I'm not conveying form with the use of black shadows. I don't think I can do much better right now with where I'm at but I tried making the cast shadows on objects/walls vs shadows on the characters different colors to avoid them blending together into a mess. I hope this looks better.

[Anonymous No.6562714]

>>6558005
All done. The light box didnt work like I wanted it to. It’s too hard to see the content. I need to actually sketch. When i ink with the dip pen, i tend to lead the target a lot to see where i am going to end the line, and i jsut cant see it through the light box. So all my strokes are super tiny and misaligned. I ended up tracing over the sketch to copy it, and then fixing it up again without the light box.

I dont know how you tracers make your traced art look good, but i respect the skill now.

[Anonymous No.6562964]

[Anonymous No.6562971]

It took me too many hours imo.

[Anonymous No.6563180]

:v

[Anonymous No.6563203]

>>6545949
Their left foot should be further back so that it is properly under the body unless they are really leaning on something. foreshorten the leg more and the snake too to help sell it.

[Anonymous No.6563338]

Something small I made this week. I've been having a go for a wee while at more out-of-my-zone stuff so it's nice to do a simple style I can just do and feel good about.

[Anonymous No.6563340]

>>6563338
Also, I got the best response to my art ever lol. No idea how for real this person is but I enjoy the reaction.

[Anonymous No.6563344]

>>6562971
>hours
No, anon. Please say your lying. That would take me like a week to finish

[Anonymous No.6563345]

>>6563180
this looks really good in the thumbnail, very good composition. but on closer inspection your line and rendering technique needs a fair amount of work.

[Anonymous No.6563399]

Any tutorials or advice on how to improve painting (and pic in general) ive feeling a little lost lately.
>>6562964
Your butt game is always on top.

[Anonymous No.6564196]

>>6563399
Heads too big

[RR No.6564383]

Another drawing I did of Green Shadow with amateur coloring.

[Anonymous No.6564395]

>>6564383
can you draw her sucking my dick?

[Anonymous No.6564451]

>>6557256
>Yesterday I discovered that I like to draw to make people upset and cringe

I wont lie i kind of resonate with this. Youre just pulling some pranks with your art. I see you.

[Anonymous No.6564557]

Kimpossible for you to pick up some bitches.

[Anonymous No.6564621]

>>6555206
i like it

[Anonymous No.6564658]

>>6564557
I really want to have an art style like this but every time I try I feel like I'm forcing it. I dunno how to make it second nature,

[Anonymous No.6564682]

>>6544922

[Anonymous No.6564727]

>>6564658
I kinda force it too, I'm still trying to learn how to keep the proportions exactly right and it takes me a while to do it correctly. I also can't do anything particularly dynamic with it because the moment I try it regresses back to something more realistic.

[Anonymous No.6564863]

>>6545935
Nice lineart, anon
Shame Magallan is such a subpart unit, but I do love her design, visual and gameplay wise

[Anonymous No.6564943]

[Anonymous No.6564967]

[Anonymous No.6565042]

>>6563344
I appreciate the (You) despite the sarcasm.
Took me like three days with few hours each. I hope to at least get faster.

[Anonymous No.6565164]

>>6559993
I draw using a 4000x4000 size canvas, and make sure to use a brush that doesnt change too much in size, so I make the brush around 10-13 pixels and keep it simple and not have the tapering too aggressive (basically just the standard G-pen in CSP with stabilization turned off). I would say the number one thing is master and completley fine tune the pen pressure on your tablet and csp so that when you use a basic hard round brush, you can go to full thickness to almost invisible thickness/opacity with very little effort as you move your hand. You should basically be able to just use the weight of your shoulder, and setting it up this way allows you to glide and focus on the actual motion and placement of the line without thinking about the weighting.
This video taught me the most useful basics: It feels weird but after a week it becomes second nature.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuoEmFZYVCU

[Anonymous No.6565248]

>>6544922
holy shit I just wanted to see the archives but turns out fireden has the image fetcher broken in years. is there a functional /ic/ archive anywhere?

[Anonymous No.6565261]

>>6565248
Warosu still working I think, but is pretty limited.

[Anonymous No.6565381]

Princesses sketch, let me know if anything looks wonky, will ink it later today

[Anonymous No.6565703]

>>6565381
You could try centering the comp a bit and sort of adding background elements such as castle towers in the background, and additional supporting elements such as clouds and more floating chompers wrapping around the central figure

[Anonymous No.6565709]

Tried to make a strong atmosphere with this.
Critique for the atmosphere is very welcome!
I'm trying to increase my skills in that department

>>6562419
Geez I really like this. Nice work!

>>6554816
I think a stronger expression would make it sexier

[RR No.6565812]

Cute little plant babies, featuring Peashooter and Starfruit

[Anonymous No.6566197]

Now that I am looking at the scan, I probably need to shift some stuff around in the background so it’s not as wonky. Went with a bowser castle in the back. I think I’ll just marker the BG without inking

>>6565703
Thanks for the tips! I cant center it anymore , but maybe I’ll just chop the right side.

[Anonymous No.6566498]

>>6546856
Continuing work on this, I made Ivan bigger as I didn't feel like he looked big/fat enough, specially to carry a full on fridge on his back.

All I need to do is figure out how he's carrying it, I guess it'll probably be something like some straps bolted to the fridge, I can picture it

[Anonymous No.6566529]

Picked up my wacom after 5 months

[Anonymous No.6566845]

>>6566529
how come you're better than everyone even after a 5 month break?

[Anonymous No.6566848]

>>6566845
The artifacted eyes

[Anonymous No.6567261]

trying out a new style so i made myself an OC
>>6545082
>>6545926
>>6547969
>>6554763
blogs!? these rule

[Anonymous No.6567275]

>>6561710
>>6558174
happy you guys like it
https://twitter.com/10shionn

>>6555373
I noticed it was hard to focus on the characters near the end.
It seemed to help a little when I zoomed the "camera" out and put the characters center. I'll have to think more about the composition next time.

[Anonymous No.6567281]

>>6567275
>>6567261
cute oc and coloring. very clownish

[Anonymous No.6567300]

>>6566529
Nice, is this fanart or original?

[Anonymous No.6567333]

[Anonymous No.6567510]

Trying to get into the hang of making some simpler pieces.

>>6567261
Glad you liked my heads
https://twitter.com/slurponaut

>>6563180
>>6564967
>>6565261
>>6565709
>>6567333
>>6560365
These are fuckin sick, I need all of your blogs

[Anonymous No.6567877]

>>6567510
Ty ty! I'm @CakeDrake on twitter

[Anonymous No.6567915]

>>6564658
I want to draw like this, too. Seems fairly simple, considering it's mostly straight lines.

[Anonymous No.6568154]

[Anonymous No.6568410]

>>6568154
I want to lick her under her skirt

[Anonymous No.6568471]

>>6556463
his work speaks for himself 99% of the time, think you might be the retard here
also pyw

[Anonymous No.6568480]

>>6568471
>his work speaks for himself 99% of the time
Strange how even people like asuksfag artwork is better than tableguy yet only he gets his dick sucked this much. Not surprised, since he samefags a lot.

[Anonymous No.6568487]

Don't respond, a blatantly false statement is a strategy these shitposters use to bait out angry replies
Just report under "offensive/rude comment" or "trolling outside of /b/" and move on

[Anonymous No.6568499]

>>6568487
Look tableguy, you wanted to be unique and all, but your shit is garbage. You always wondered why you get no followers and it’s from your shitty style. Asukafag’s art is 3 times better and it shows with him having 10k+ followers.

[Anonymous No.6569191]

If I'm making art of a human fucking a humanoid non-human beast/monster, what's the cutoff point for the type of species I can portray before I get run off for drawing "bestiality"?

[Anonymous No.6569226]

>>6569191
>furshit
/b/ or /trash/

[Anonymous No.6569232]

>>6569191
It’s only porn if you yourself coom to it

[Anonymous No.6569669]

[Anonymous No.6570235]

>>6560589
Really neat stuff, anon. Would definitely put on my wall.

[Anonymous No.6570618]

>>6560280
almost done, just need to do the eyes and BG and post-process
god I hate my rendering, need to do more painting bootcamp when I finish this

>>6567261
@ambiskl

[Anonymous No.6570620]

>>6570618
forgot to attach img

[Anonymous No.6570715]

>>6566197
I always forget that a full bleed image fucks the scanner color balance really bad. Rosalina looked like a fucking corpse. I color adjusted a couple spots like the pinks and some of the skin.

It took me 4 days to color this. I think im done for a while.. my brain hurts.

[Anonymous No.6570742]

>>6569669
rad

[Anonymous No.6570766]

>>6570715
Amazing work as always tableguy

[Anonymous No.6571063]

>>6544922
VisDev-like Piece for a portfolio I’m putting together. I’m bretty decent traditionally but I’m still trying to learn to paint digitally