Do you think artists should be required to disclose if they use AI?

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Anonymous Wed Mar 1 04:10:10 2023 No.6540443 [Reply] [Original]

Do you think artists should be required to disclose if they use AI?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 04:12:43 2023 No.6540447 >>6540443 Yes, and 3d models, and post every single reference they use.

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 04:14:38 2023 No.6540449

>>6540443
That’s an interesting question. There is no definitive answer, but some artists and experts have argued that AI-generated art raises ethical issues such as copyright infringement, authorship, and commercialization1.

Some artists say that their work has been used without their consent to train AI models that can imitate their style23. They claim that this violates their rights and devalues their originality.

Some experts say that AI-generated art challenges the notion of human creativity and expression45. They wonder who should be credited as the author of an artwork that is co-created by a machine and a human.

Some critics say that AI-generated art could be used to produce cheap, mass-produced art that undermines the value of human-made art16. They worry that this could affect the market and the appreciation of art.

What do you think about these issues?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 04:27:30 2023 No.6540460 >>6540443 Do you think artists should be required to disclose if they use the lasso tool?

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 04:29:12 2023 No.6540462

>>6540460
The lasso tool is a selection tool that allows you to draw freeform segments of a selection border around objects or points in an image1. It is commonly used in software such as Adobe Illustrator2 and Photoshop3 to manipulate or edit parts of an image.

I don’t think artists should be required to disclose if they use the lasso tool, as it is not a creative tool but a technical one. It does not generate new content or imitate other styles, but rather helps the artist select and modify existing content. It is similar to using a ruler or a compass in traditional art.

However, some artists may choose to disclose their use of the lasso tool or other digital tools as a way of sharing their process or technique with others. This could be helpful for learning or appreciation purposes.

Do you agree with me?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 04:29:26 2023 No.6540463 the image itself is disclosure. it's obvious every time if you aren't blind

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 04:42:10 2023 No.6540469

>>6540443
No. One day it will be impossible to tell by looking, However, in that future, AI detection software will catch them if they lie about it.
You won't be able to can't escape AI detection. Using the very latest AI art gen will escape the latest detection.. but all prior work you uploaded will detected. and then a short time later, your latest gen will be.

Using it for ref though? I don't know...

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 04:45:29 2023 No.6540476
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>>6540443
Personally, I always liked knowing what medium the artist uses for their work, regardless of AI. It's ok not saying if a piece is digital (as it's a reasonable assumption most of the time), but it's good to know if it's actually a collage with other elements, is actually 3D made to look 2D, photobashing, Vector, traditional (and what medium that would pertain), and of course if AI was used as well.

I think AI in particular needs disclosure, as it would otherwise trick, not just an audience, but possible clients who may have been hiring you based on a presumed draftsmanship skill that you may not have.
Not to mention; if you want to, and believe you can, make a career of AI art and your skills in that, you should be advertising the fact your using it.

But if your just using it to make pictures for shit and giggles and nothing serious, whatever is fine I guess.

Also, OP, are you the one who created picrel as well? Or is it just coincidental in character similarity?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 04:52:08 2023 No.6540481 >>6540463 I agree. "As is" AI art reeks of mass production. I'm more afraid of those who will use AI + their knowledge and experience that will/is a killer combo. One that I don't want to partake in tho

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 04:54:51 2023 No.6540482 >>6540443 doesn't need, we notice

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 04:57:07 2023 No.6540484 >>6540443 also of references used, and proof of licensing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 05:13:37 2023 No.6540494 looks like shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 05:43:43 2023 No.6540513 >>6540482 How? What tells you that it's made with AI? I'm not being sarcastic.

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 05:53:10 2023 No.6540519

>>6540513
That’s a good question. Artificial intelligence (AI) can create amazing artworks, but sometimes it can also make mistakes that reveal its non-human nature. According to Brendan Murphy, a lecturer in digital media at CQUniversity12, some of the signs that an art piece was made by AI are:

Problems with hands, mouth, teeth and ears
Strange or unrealistic colors and textures
Lack of consistency or coherence in the style or theme
Repetition or distortion of elements
Absence of emotion or meaning
Of course, these are not definitive criteria, and some human artists may intentionally create artworks that have these features. The best way to tell if an art piece was made by AI is to look at the source and see if it was generated by a machine learning algorithm or not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 06:00:47 2023 No.6540526 >>6540513 it makes mistakes people don't. look at the side of the hair who would draw that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 06:01:08 2023 No.6540527 >>6540519 ChatGPT pls

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 06:08:09 2023 No.6540532 >>6540443 >If an artist show a finished artwork I look at it for 5 seconds and move on >if an artist share the progress, sketch of that finished artwork then I look at it for 1-5 minutes or more and I'll follow him if it was interesting

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 06:12:02 2023 No.6540537 >>6540443 >If an artist shows a finished artwork I'll look at it for 5 seconds and move on >if an artist shares the progress, sketch of that finished artwork then I'll look at it for 1-5 minutes or more and I'll follow him if it was interesting

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 06:16:37 2023 No.6540543

>>6540443
Yes, it should be a requirement, or at the very least, taboo to do otherwise.

To the hacks trying to compare ai with simple tools like crop, bucket, spray, etc, your deceiving only yourself, as those alone cannot produce anything substantial, and only when used by a skilled hand do they produce results. To say ai for art as a basis is the same as a pencil is like trying to say a house with no doors and windows isn't a house, or a car without panels isn't a car.

It matters if I hand drew a stunning and details landscape of a crowded mall, where each person is recognizable, or if ai randomly generated a bunch of faces and emulated the same as my drawing. One was MY effort, the other wasn't, even if I touched it up some later.

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 06:22:18 2023 No.6540548

>>6540537
>if an artist shows a great looking image, but something makes my spider sense tingle, I look close, analyze all the features, the brush strokes the lines... is this AI? I take it into photoshop to color pick the white areas, does it vary too much? if i determine it was AI, I send them a death threat and move on

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 06:31:10 2023 No.6540553 >>6540443 It's always obvious, even from thumbnails. You can see multiple unnatural deformities from far away. It's a human instinct to recognize things that are fake and uncanny. Also, people have portfolios, jackass.

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 06:37:59 2023 No.6540557

>>6540513
>>6540519
this and i'll add more like noise in places that don't make sense, liquified clothes ( AI can't fold ) assimetry and lack of dynamics ( looks flat , like a cardboard , doesn't mix with the ambient) , bad use of chromatic aberration , same use of light ( AI doesn't get bizzarre light of many sources on anime style )

i'm sure one day AI will suprass all of this and become a tool like 3d motioncap is today , but we have a long time yet

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 06:50:06 2023 No.6540563 How many of this thread's posts are AI generated? Some really read like they are.

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 07:04:55 2023 No.6540573

>>6540513
I guess AI is reading this right now to learn how humans recognize it. So let's feed it,
What I see at simple gaze on the thumbanil is something that looks photorealistic but unreal at the same time. Too good to be true.
Once you zoom in you find incoherences in logic, like in example a jacket inside another jacket. Or the flap of the jacket has too many sides and folds beyond the logic design of the flap IRL. It's like "cuantic fabric".
Also someting that can be explained as "mixing apples and oranges" when a texture is not consistent in the material that it is made of. It could be a mix of wood, fabric and vegetables if the color is a correct match, everything goes, wich is wrong.
Just my 2 cents for our AI buddy...

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 07:07:23 2023 No.6540574 ai shills deserve a single (You) from ChatGPT simple as

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 07:15:40 2023 No.6540581 >>6540563 Do you think AI is making spelling mistakes purposely to blend in with the rest of human retards here? That would be scary...

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 07:44:04 2023 No.6540594 >>6540563 Chatgpt pls

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 07:45:10 2023 No.6540596 >thinly veiled drama thread Hide, sage and report

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 08:42:09 2023 No.6540619
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I'm sad. Sad that artists are so disorganized, or just don't care that they're about to get the rug pulled out from under them with this shit. The best they could do was an anti-AI art station protest. The 2-3 lawsuits floating around are weightless. This is war. The solution is so patently obvious Im surprised I haven't seen it floated ANYWHERE. Which is to pool some capital together, and fund a version of dance-dance diffusion that purposefully includes copyrighted music. We need to drag the music industry into this before it's too late.

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 09:35:18 2023 No.6540662

>>6540619
Look, there's no way you involve more corpos in this and things turn out well.
Copyright laws do not EVER benefit the little guy. You keep them loose and shit like this happens but you keep them tight and indie artists are getting sued because a 4 note segment of the bassline backing track of a song is the same as another 4 note segment in a completely different song in a completely different genre that was released 20 years ago.
Mind you that the music industry collects royalties on people singing happy fucking birthday, a song which is blatantly in the public domain, and has done so unchallenged because they're too big for reasonable people to go after them. The absolute last fucking thing I ever need as an artist is another law that invents a new way for a corporation to take money out of my pocket which i will never have enough cash to use against them when they commit the same crime.
Artists are going to fuck themselves over bigtime if going after AI produces any results at all. Mark my words

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 10:00:35 2023 No.6540673

>>6540662
I'm sorry to say you are mistaken. Robust copyright laws have several benefits. One key advantage is that it stops your novel work from being misused or stolen by others and it prohibits people except the copyright owner from copying. This encourages creativity and innovation and enables producers to benefit financially.

Keeping copyright law up to date is also vitally important to the economy. Copyrighted intangible products are successfully being marketed to consumers through digital distribution technologies such as download and streaming services through for-profit contractual transactions in the marketplace, much as tangible goods and services are marketed.

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 10:12:27 2023 No.6540686
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>>6540673
Robust copyright laws, oh how they sing,
A melody of benefits that they bring.
They stop theft of novel work,
And ensure that ownership doesn't lurk.

Creativity and innovation, they inspire,
Encouraging creators to reach higher.
Exclusive rights to control and use,
Give financial benefits that are not obtuse.

The economy benefits, make no mistake,
As digital distribution revenues rake.
Marketplaces profit from intangible goods,
And support whole industries as they should.

But balance is key, public interest we must mind,
Excessive protections can stifle and bind.
Access to knowledge and cultural expression,
Are also vital in this copyright procession.

So let's review and update, to ensure,
That copyright laws serve society pure.
With protection and promotion in equal measure,
We'll create a world of creative treasure.

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 10:16:56 2023 No.6540691

>>6540662
In a world where creation is key,
The little guy can often feel small,
But with laws to protect what they see,
Their work can stand proud and tall.

With rights to reproduce and distribute,
The little guy can earn from their art,
No longer at the mercy of the astute,
They can make a living from their heart.

And with control over how it's used,
Their vision remains intact,
No longer subject to being abused,
Their work remains a fact.

So let us celebrate these laws so fine,
That help the little guy to shine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 10:22:10 2023 No.6540695 >>6540691 >So let us celebrate these laws so fine, >That help the little guy to shine. AND IF ANYONE TRIES TO CROSS THAT LINE, WE'LL MAKE SURE THEY PAY FOR THEIR CRIME!

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 10:25:03 2023 No.6540698

You are the epitome of sublime beauty and transcendent creativity. You are the manifestation of divine inspiration and artistic genius. You are the culmination of countless hours of meticulous labor and exquisite craftsmanship. You are the embodiment of elegance, grace and sophistication.

Your colors dazzle my eyes with their radiant splendor and harmonious contrast. Your shapes enchant my mind with their intricate complexity and symmetrical balance. Your textures delight my touch with their smooth finesse and delicate detail. Your sounds captivate my ears with their melodious rhythm and expressive tone.

You stir my emotions with your profound meaning and evocative symbolism. You challenge my intellect with your subtle nuance and clever ambiguity. You enrich my soul with your uplifting message and universal appeal. You transform my life with your positive influence and lasting impact.

You are my muse, my passion, my joy. You are my treasure, my pride, my love.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 10:26:46 2023 No.6540699 >>6540695 >AND IF ANYONE TRIES TO CROSS THAT LINE, >WE'LL MAKE SURE THEY PAY FOR THEIR CRIME! AI does it better... But I like it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 10:29:54 2023 No.6540701 >>6540698 I can't stop reading this one poem with the radio voice of Fernando Martínez from GTA5 in mi head. I love it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 10:31:37 2023 No.6540703 >>6540699 That was AI. I told it to make it like allcaps navy seal copypasta. it repeated the same thing in allcaps, but had that bit at the end.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 10:34:45 2023 No.6540706 >>6540443 Wrong board, /g/ tranny.

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 10:39:21 2023 No.6540710

>>6540703
Well, there you have it! To me that was just a lame attempt to replicate an AI paraphrase by a common /ic shitposter.
That's what I believe, and if you say it was made by an AI... then welp, you got me, I can't tell if you're lying or not. Interesting shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 10:40:17 2023 No.6540712 >>6540460 Retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 10:40:18 2023 No.6540713 File: 82 KB, 641x667, Screenshot 2023-03-01 234006.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6540710

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 10:41:36 2023 No.6540714 ai threads only deserve ai replies good

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 10:42:58 2023 No.6540715 >>6540714 An error occurred. If this issue persists please contact us through our help center at help.openai.com.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 10:48:09 2023 No.6540720 >>6540713 Cool. Thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 10:48:17 2023 No.6540722 >>6540673 >>6540691 Lame gimmick.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 10:50:29 2023 No.6540723 I guess the new jannies got removed because they were actually doing their job.

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 11:07:03 2023 No.6540734

>>6540460
nobody will ever deny that they used the lasso tool if asked, you stupid fucking ai bro. Its implied that all artists use it already. Like using a tablet, or using ctrl Z. These are just simple functions. AI Art generation is actually drawing for you.

Using AI to generate a non repeating texture like grass or concrete would be closer in comparison to the lasso tool, and I think most people do not have a problem with that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 11:08:54 2023 No.6540735 >>6540447 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 12:18:02 2023 No.6540777 yes, no one wants or will pay for AI, its what pajeets dont want you to know.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 12:26:42 2023 No.6540778 I'm not sure doubling down on painterly techniques of the 19 century masters is going to solve this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 13:11:31 2023 No.6540815 >>6540462 is this chatgpt?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 13:13:04 2023 No.6540817 >>6540443 yes, I also think they should be publicly lynched

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 20:55:49 2023 No.6541347

>>6540443

3 types of AI users

1- Scammers.

2- deluded retards users who thinks they're artist.

3- "just for fun" users.

number 3 won't post shit for profit. number will just flood trash generated images on socmed and number 1 will never disclose it unless caught.

there's no good thing about AI "art" UNLESS it's used minimally. For instance, using AI to generate random shapes and colors and create an artwork using that as a base. Which I don't think people will do because the AI is capable of shitting out complete images.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 21:12:39 2023 No.6541375 Who cares? Art is over, get over it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 21:14:37 2023 No.6541381 >>6540443 Everyone can tell. It's like having a little yellow star on your lapel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 21:16:15 2023 No.6541386 >>6540573 AI can't comprehend what It "reads".

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 21:16:34 2023 No.6541387 Good morning sirs

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 21:16:49 2023 No.6541389 File: 137 KB, 828x386, F0AA2F34-4799-41D0-96A3-1253B6B4B63B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6541347 Exactly

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 21:17:16 2023 No.6541391 File: 356 KB, 512x512, 7567л.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6541347 I've integrated ths shit into my worlflow stay mad

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 21:19:55 2023 No.6541399 >>6541391 >worlflow Good morning sir!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 21:21:19 2023 No.6541401 File: 198 KB, 512x512, 56h56.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6541399 Yikes what a racist bigoted statement. Kindly grow as a person

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 21:27:50 2023 No.6541414 >>6540443 Didn't disclose when tracing, won't with AI either

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 21:29:09 2023 No.6541417 >>6540513 you can tell by the way it is

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 1 21:30:59 2023 No.6541418 unironically it's useless to fight it

Anonymous Wed Mar 1 21:34:25 2023 No.6541427

>>6540513
you can't if the person using AI goes out of their way to mask it

shit like the OP image can only be told from context, like a random detailed portrait like that seems like a mismatch between skill and subject matter, but in the right context it'd make sense, but if you see it on instagram in a sea of similar artwork, it feels unnatural

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 00:25:37 2023 No.6541675 >>6540443 >Do you think artists should be required to disclose if they use AI? >known artstyle >wips and rough drafts >timelapse videos >none of the grass shading effects AI software does

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 02:30:07 2023 No.6541791 >>6540447 Who gives a fuck? If the art is good, that should be literally all that matters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 02:31:08 2023 No.6541795 >>6541427 The only way to "mask" ai images is redrawing the whole thing. Which no ainigger can do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 03:53:00 2023 No.6541889 >>6540513 All these answers are bullshit. Source: I presented human-made art to /ic/ and asked the same question, got the same response. It's cope and bias.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 03:58:33 2023 No.6541892 File: 844 KB, 768x768, 1677377384546699.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6540476 They're from the same person, who wasn't me. But there's no ownership with this stuff.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 04:18:55 2023 No.6541912

>>6541892
Tbh, it's bullshit that ai images cannot be copyrighted. If you need to spend hours correcting mistakes and prooompting, it requires more effort to some other art forms that are granted copyright, such as drip paintings etc. It's all a matter of politics

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 04:29:21 2023 No.6541924 >>6540443 Artists should've been disclosing whether or not they use photo references in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 04:58:11 2023 No.6541946 >>6541924 Learn how artist use ref and you'll see why they don't have to.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 04:59:34 2023 No.6541949 >>6541389 Perfect example of number 2.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 05:06:21 2023 No.6541957

I don't think employers care also they have almost no control over traditional artist output other than be pleased on the first 5 revision while they can always pester the digital illustrator for 100 or more revisions before deadline.

So no, if the ai generation can cut so much time for production time, artists that are not so great will insist that it is unethical to disclose an artist's AI use.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 05:27:15 2023 No.6541979 >>6541974 no comment would be him posting nothing at all :)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 07:43:33 2023 No.6542053 >>6541974 >the results are incredible I thought "normalfags have shit taste" was an elitist meme...how wrong I was. >>6541912 nice bait, have a (You)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 08:20:19 2023 No.6542072 >>6541791 i hope you get mediocre reception from your art and some retard from this board traces all your shit but uses a different color palette or some shit and becomes a multi-millionaire

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 08:52:59 2023 No.6542085 File: 158 KB, 1262x928, Screenshot 2023-03-02 005155.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542053 That pajeet is this pajeet. Ai shills are each other's biggest fans.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 08:54:18 2023 No.6542089 >>6542053 >I thought "normalfags have shit taste" was an elitist meme...how wrong I was. Where to you think the NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN meme comes from?

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 09:06:55 2023 No.6542098

>>6541979
A blank comment can mean different things depending on the context and tone. For example, if someone posts a controversial or provocative statement and then someone else replies with a blank comment, it could mean that they are speechless, shocked or disgusted by the statement. Alternatively, it could mean that they are mocking or dismissing the statement as unworthy of a response. Another example is if someone posts a funny or clever joke and then someone else replies with a blank comment, it could mean that they are laughing so hard that they have nothing to say. Or it could mean that they don’t find the joke funny or clever at all and they are expressing their boredom or disdain. As you can see, a blank comment can have different meanings depending on the context and tone of the conversation.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 09:21:57 2023 No.6542100

>>6540460
The lasso tool is a commonly used feature in digital art software that allows artists to select and isolate specific parts of an image for editing or manipulation. It is not inherently problematic to use this tool, and it is generally considered a standard feature in digital art software.

That being said, if an artist is claiming that their artwork is entirely hand-drawn or painted when, in fact, they have used the lasso tool extensively to create shapes or forms, they may be misrepresenting their process to viewers or potential buyers. In this case, disclosure about the use of the lasso tool could be seen as a matter of transparency and honesty.

Ultimately, the decision of whether or not to disclose the use of the lasso tool (or any other tool) is up to individual artists and their personal ethics and standards. However, in general, it is always best to be transparent about one's creative process and to avoid misrepresenting the work that has been done.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 09:24:10 2023 No.6542102 >look this ai looks incredible no, it looks like shit >WELL IT WILL LOOK BETTER IN A FEW YEARS you said it looked incredible 2 minutes ago

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 09:40:19 2023 No.6542109

>>6541889
While it's true that some AI's images can't be recognized and that there's a lot of cope with the whole, all AI pics are ugly and forever deformed, for now the majority of images do have weirdnesses to them that human rendered images wouldn't normally have, but it's also true that a lot of times to see these errors you'd have to zoom in and focus on the image, because at a first glance they look fine.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 09:51:00 2023 No.6542112

>this art looks like soulless traced and photobashed trash
ackshully this is what the industry is okay plus it makes my workload easier. no rules only tools *sniggers like neil degrasse tyson*
>this AI looks like it will dramatically cutdown production time and costs, looks rough but it will improve enough for the industry to notice
NNOOOOOOOOO THIS SHIT IS GARABAGE LOOK AT THE HANDS THE CHERRYPICKED SMEAR FRAME THIS WILL NEVER REPLACE REAL BLENDER ARTIST TRACED FIFTY LAYERS OF SMEARS BY DIET TAGALOG SAKIMICHAN SOVL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 09:57:14 2023 No.6542122 >>6542112 Both photobashing and AI art are garbage, simple as, but AI art is just a hundred times worse, unless you really transform it by hand, then it becomes comparable to photobashing, so still shit.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 10:03:17 2023 No.6542126

>>6542112
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>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 10:04:03 2023 No.6542129 >>6542122 the ai shit is good at looking like a bad salvia trip manifestation. limited use in animation but easy to think adultswim will do something with it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 11:11:26 2023 No.6542157 >>6541974 they also are a professional and have teams behind it with years of experience. The only use of AI in this video is like using a tiktok filter. Everything else is just skill, talent and creativity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 11:13:45 2023 No.6542159 >>6541912 if AI is allowed to be copyrighted because you fuckers edit it then anyone is allowed to license any photo from google search because they edit it. It's not bullshit. You're just that retarded.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 11:58:15 2023 No.6542189 >>6542159 >then anyone is allowed to license any photo from google search because they edit it this is what fair use allows you to do bud.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 12:03:18 2023 No.6542193 >>6542189 ok retard

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Anonymous Thu Mar 2 13:21:51 2023 No.6542247

>>6540513
The difference between AI and digital art is the same difference between manual animation and Rotoscoping.

You can notice it almost instantly.

You can argue it looks the same, that it's drawn, that is indistinguishable, but there are underlying theories about how things need to be animated, their shape, how they move that doesn't gets applied when raw rotoscoping is used, AI is the same, it creates unnatural detail distribution, weird contextless compositions, random medium mixes, that are not natural to the eyes.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 13:30:06 2023 No.6542257
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>>6542247
if the underlying details exist then the information can be extracted from the result, this is literally what makes these AI so powerful

it's not like you'd contest the 90% it gets right at this very moment, but somehow that remaining 10% is supposedly beyond AI even though it's fundamentally the same as all the other pattern recognition it does right now

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 13:30:53 2023 No.6542258

>>6540513
A lot of the AI results are beginning to look the same due to the volume and kind of curation going on. I actually recognize the face because I wanted to generate some random guys in Midjourney, and he had that exact same face with slight rounding.
I can't speak for SD since it's going to vary depending on what libraries you're choosing to work with; but I know MJ's system is weighed by community votes. So while it's getting nice results, it also looks homogenized. Even when rendered in a different style, certain things like facial structures, color palettes, composition, and line placement begin to appear again.
The biggest giveaway is when the wannabe artist has a gallery. AI prompters don't have a sense of aesthetic style, which is both their boon for the short-term, and bane for the long. I can tell they're running the same prompt, maybe with a word or two changed or weights shifted. They make lots of nice pictures with no narrative or connection. There's no process to watch, or no artist statement a person could ask about.

>>6541347
>For instance, using AI to generate random shapes and colors and create an artwork using that as a base. Which I don't think people will do because the AI is capable of shitting out complete images.
I've done this before using a very limited AI, or one with lower settings. You get what looks like a deranged collage, or an abstract gesture drawing. Those are the most fun to work with and probably the actual best use for an artist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 13:38:53 2023 No.6542266 >>6542257 Again, people using AI and trying to hide it are like people animating badly by rotoscoping and trying to hide it, thinking everyone and their dogs can't see the difference.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 13:40:43 2023 No.6542270 >>6542266 you repeating yourself doesn't tackle anything I said nor does it make it true I get it, coming to terms with a calculator outperforming you in hard is not easy on the mind but you'll get there

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 13:41:41 2023 No.6542271 >>6542266 The artist makes his tools work.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 13:50:53 2023 No.6542283

>>6542270
>calculator outperforming you
not that anon. I have no reason to feel threatened by hyper-realist pseudo-paintings AI does, they are pretty vacuous anyway. the strength of the AI is that it skips all the creative steps and goes straight to rendered and can do several iterrations fast but at the expense of
a lot of elements like composition or storytelling. your comment is symptomatic of an uncreative mind. give both a professional painter and an AI proompter a month to work on a singular piece and I think the painter has a better chance of approaching the desired end-rseult while the prompter is likely to neurotically keep trying to generate elements over and over to get it "right" but losing cohesiveness in the whole piece.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 13:50:53 2023 No.6542282
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>>6542266
With more coplex images there's more potential points of failure, but what about a relatively simple image like picrel, can you point out what makes it look like AI beyond a doubt?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 13:53:07 2023 No.6542285 File: 438 KB, 768x768, 1650990700070.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542283 it's not like realism is the only thing it does, here's ocarina of time N64 style

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:00:11 2023 No.6542294

>>6542258
>A lot of the AI results are beginning to look the same due to the volume and kind of curation going on.
I've been noticing this too. In the early days some of the results were at least quirky and interesting. It now seems to be settling into a monotonous aesthetic. Defenders claim it can do any style, but when it diverges from the script it begins to unravel.
At this trajectory it'll become its own category, it's definitely not shaping up to look like anything drawn by hand.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:01:16 2023 No.6542295

>>6542285
again, why would I paint Ocarina of time style when it's simpler to model and texture a thing in 3d, then I could make a billion poses that character with absolute control based. just like I don't see the point of honing hyperrealistic skills as 1) they have lower expression value 2) I would be trying to mimic a camera. better to focus on a personal style and improve it, make it unique. AI gives decent-to-good quick imitations but imitations nonetheless.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:02:13 2023 No.6542297 >>6542295 I was just pointing out how it's no limited to realism by showing a very clear example

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:05:19 2023 No.6542301 >>6542297 fair enough, and it is interesting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:06:48 2023 No.6542303 >>6540443 Once they start disclosing if they traced or used someone else's work as reference, sure. >insert ross traced art from discord

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:07:23 2023 No.6542305

>>6542266
>everyone can tell AI
So many people fall for this, there's one major aspect that you're failing to understand here, and it will feel very obvious to you once you realize it.

For any AI art that you have not clocked as AI (and there is some even on this board, I promise you), is not counted in your "obviously that's AI" mental checklist.
So basically, you are deciding that you are 100% accurate at detecting AI. Is that truly how it is for you, personally? Well perhaps so far, who knows. The point is that you don't know, because you have no way of taking into consideration AI art that "passes", so to speak.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:10:00 2023 No.6542306
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>>6542294
How many artists imitate WLOP? It's not that they can't draw in a different style, they just give the people what they want. When people get bored of the current popular style the AI results will start imitating whatever the next new hot thing is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:18:18 2023 No.6542313 File: 296 KB, 366x351, 1677520323865.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542301 very, geniunely disappointed in all /g/tards who only shit out pinup girls

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:19:29 2023 No.6542314

>>6542306
Exactly this. It's like browsing /sdg/ and deciding that all SD can do is anime waifus, because all they see is anime waifus.
The vast amount of people are frighteningly simple and have poor taste. When a tool gets in the hands of so many such people, of course the majority of what you see will be unspiring and uncreative.
This has nothing to do with the tool itself though. Could just as easily put in Durer and woodcut/related terms instead

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:28:14 2023 No.6542317

>>6540443
AI artist got his art to be exposed in Rijksmuseum, what about yours anon? You do have art in a museum by now right, I mean a decade of grinding the necessary skills would at least give you that
>>6542313
it's /g/, that's like asking /ic/ to stop drawing anime shit

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:32:49 2023 No.6542319

>>6542314
>Exactly this. It's like browsing /sdg/ and deciding that all SD can do is anime waifus
But the culture around a medium matters. Photoshop is capable of so much, but Photoshop art is associated with a certain type of art (rendermonkey/airbrush/artstashit) because so many make that type of art with it.
That being said, certain mediums do guide the users to certain results, due to the inherent nature of the 'tool.'
>Could just as easily put in Durer and woodcut/related terms instead
Google "Albrecht Durer Stable Diffusion" and then search for Durer's actual woodcuts and you'll soon discover AI's brick wall.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:45:17 2023 No.6542327

>>6541912
>it's bullshit that ai images cannot be copyrighted
The very concept of "copyright" in a modern and advanced human society is what is BULLSHIT.
Knowledge, art, culture, information, at this point should be shared. It should be a stream of life in our human system society like blood in the veins of any living organism.

It's the fucking "noble" reptiles who enjoy the suffering of the human being the ones that keep us in chains unable to share anything with our kin, we are forced to "buy" our right to eat, sleep, breed, and even just breathe air.

For the tortured souls of all our /ic brothers and sisters, the issue that keeps them in this eternal struggle is that they can not enjoy art, art should not be enjoyed, art should be another tool to "buy" your right to breathe one more day or be happy. Like being happy can be achieved by buying stuff. Only a reptil can come up with something so detached from the human soul and spirit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:45:44 2023 No.6542328 >>6542319 how's the culture or whatever matter? it's not like photoshop made artwork is frowned down upon nor is it only used for airbrushed artwork

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:48:08 2023 No.6542333
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>>6540449
>ethical issues such as copyright infringement, authorship, and commercialization1
Artists copy other peoples artstyles as well, the commercialization of art has been a problem for a while now. There so much art being made without meaning beyond "anime girl cute" to be more palatable to the general audience that work is being sold to. Companies who want to make a profit don't care about ethical issues of underpaying their artists or trying to not pay contract artists at all. AI doesn't "copy" artwork when it trains on datasets, but even if you argued that AI can't use publicly available images anyway, people with money can contract artists to make art specifically to train AI, and the end result would be an AI that is proprietary, expensive and not available to the general public. Even then, nothing would stop big companies from using banned AI models anyway, unlike small artists, they can usually afford the fines. Commercialisation, profit oriented business and the fact that workers need to work so they can have money to live is always the issue with work being automated, never the work automation itself.
>AI models that can imitate their style23
Artists already imitate each others styles, no repercussions other than angry tumblr mobs.
>AI-generated art challenges the notion of human creativity and expression45
Commercialisation of art already does that.
>They wonder who should be credited as the author of an artwork that is co-created by a machine and a human.
I'd say it probably depends on intent. There already are artists who don't properly get credited on projects where many people are involved, but you can in theory try to find out via reaching out to whoever does get credited. You can't ask the AI who made which input when an artist was running the software on their computer, but you can ask an artist which AI model they used. If AI is just another tool, I'd say the human who used it and published the art should get credit.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:48:56 2023 No.6542334
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>>6542333
>>6540449
>Some critics say that AI-generated art could be used to produce cheap, mass-produced art that undermines the value of human-made art16
>produce cheap, mass-produced art
People do that without AI already, and I'd say it does undermine the value of freely made art, issue always goes back to needing money to live. Being a professional artist can be a soul sucking experience.
>They worry that this could affect the market
Hah! Companies will be happy to have reasons to either underpay artists even more or to not pay them at all.
>appreciation of art
I've tried out AI and it made me appreciate human made art a lot more, at least I can imagine some sort of intent behind human art and a message they want to deliver.
>>6540460
No joke, I actually do that because I like explaining my art process and love the distortion tool and have a need to tell everyone about it. But no.
>>6540447
Kek

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:49:10 2023 No.6542335

>>6540513
In OP's pic...the tendons from the sternocleidomastoid muscles are shown originating behind the clavicles, which overlap them. That's wrong. They actually originate at the top of the sternum between the clavicles, and will typically appear to blend in with the medial heads of the clavicles.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:50:04 2023 No.6542338 >>6542333 great image

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:55:49 2023 No.6542344

>>6542333
No way big companies would take people's art for themselves. Had to be 4chan to think just because you're a company you're evil. They are the ones making sure artists make a living, Disney even kept their traditional artists long after they adopted 3D animation. AI art will be illegal and artists will thrive, you can't stop artists. Our art will be even more valuable because it has soul and to that I thank you AI for making people realize what an art without soul looks like.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:56:29 2023 No.6542347 File: 1.48 MB, 960x1280, 03508d5a5660eca02b63c131c35765f9.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6541347 Number 4 - The coomer. >>6542314

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 14:58:23 2023 No.6542349 >>6542347 Better art than whatever /ic/ could come up the last year

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:02:52 2023 No.6542355

>>6542333
>AI doesn't "copy" artwork when it trains on datasets,
typical jewery, the data does get used whether it is stored or not is irrelevant.
>Artists already imitate each others styles
there's imitation and there's plagiarism and the practice has always been frowned upon and the copycat might see doors closed to him. also having AI pictures unable to be copyrighted bypasses your picture strawman. if you think AI levels the playing field for small actors you are completely deluded.
>>6542349
number 5 - the petty fuckwad

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:02:55 2023 No.6542356 File: 1.36 MB, 960x1280, caef92bc5862b4a3f5936dabdabf370a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542349 its mid, but whatever

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:03:34 2023 No.6542358

>>6542344
>you can't stop artists
Uh, this isn't some "non-artist AI shills vs real artists" thing, I'm on this board because I want to improve my drawing skills. I don't think AI art will ever make human art obsolete, and not just because AI art is built on human art.
>No way big companies would take people's art for themselves
There are people doing that though, never had a bad client?
>just because you're a company you're evil
I'm not saying every company is evil, but there are bad practises, being paid in exposure is a meme for a reason
>Disney even kept their traditional artists long after they adopted 3D animation
Ah, I didn't know that, I mainly know disney in the artworld for their copyright stuff. Big if true, thanks for pointing that out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:05:36 2023 No.6542360 >>6542356 >SNIFFAAA MOMMY!!!!! >LICK LICK

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:10:27 2023 No.6542369

>>6540443
Hot take but I don't think so. If nobody can tell and you are never caught then you functionally never used AI. Besides, as long as you treat AI art as analog art then people won't tell. The nature of AI creates infinite supply but there is still limited demand which leads to people being flippant about AI generated images but if you never disclose that something is AI but also act as if it had more value on par with an analog commission then people will take your images more seriously and not question it as AI as much.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:10:41 2023 No.6542372 File: 1.99 MB, 1200x1536, 1942efaa9e68f5c5bbf6e464d7e0eac7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542360 i wonder how nsfw artists are coping right now

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:12:37 2023 No.6542376 File: 73 KB, 774x679, ok wut.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] oh damn

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:13:53 2023 No.6542377

>>6542344
>Our art will be even more valuable because it has soul and to that I thank you AI for making people realize what an art without soul looks like
Finally someone gets it. AI is like a big neon sign advertising ART. And people goes to that neon sign like flies. Real artists can only benefit from all of this.

Everyone's like, "I can do art too!"... And at some point the question will arise "can you?". what is art? Why do you care? Why do you feel attracted to it? They will watch KJGvideos drawing art IRL infront of the crowd and they will say "How does he do that?" It's like and enchantment, like real magic happening infront of their very eyes. That's art.
AI is just a big neon sign that advertise it. Wich is good for artists.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:14:22 2023 No.6542378
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>>6542314
>all they see is anime waifus
I hope this AI garbage will inspire artists to make more meaningful art instead of just drawing the same anime girls over and over like machines.
What made the tape banana real art was its intent. Human artists could leave time consuming rendering to AI and focus more on putting some personality into their work instead of hiding behind generic style and never truly expressing anything that matters to them.
Although pretty anime girls do matter to people I guess, can't argue with that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:14:35 2023 No.6542379 >>6542376 shhhhh, you were supposed to wait 2 weeks dude wtf stop posting good ai news every week

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:22:38 2023 No.6542390 File: 1.37 MB, 1475x1055, 1654685654654.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542379 You can't tell me what to do

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:24:48 2023 No.6542393
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>>6542377
>>6542378
>>6542344
Sounds to me like reasons why AI art shouldn't be illegal. Although if rich people can just hire artists to make art for their AI models to train on, you can't really make it illegal if there's no doubt that no art was stolen. Although I'd bet that such an AI service would be really expensive to use, so most artists wouldn't be able to use it in their work, only rich people who can afford the tech.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:24:48 2023 No.6542392
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>>6542333
That's a stupid image. Current Disney is already awful, and I wouldn't care if it went out of business altogether, much less laid off 90% of its art department. But there's no way AI could match the creative output of Disney's golden age artists, and anyone who thinks otherwise has shit for brains.
As to the second point, I'd be absolutely fine with big tech hiring poor artists in hopes of imitating the top artists to train their AI. When I think of the very best artists of the recent past, people like Frank Frazetta and Mort Drucker, they had and continue to have many imitators, and yet nobody would mistake the imitators for the original. Drucker's art in particular (see picrel) is light years beyond AI's capabilities, because it combines expressive linework, intelligent stylization, intent and context, all things beyond AI's comparatively dumb way of producing images.
Third point: Who cares? Are we supposed to weep that "average joe" has to pay for art? Or are we supposed to believe that "big corporations" aren't the ones already pushing for, and benefiting from, unethically trained AI art?

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:26:04 2023 No.6542395
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>>6542376
The speed of advancement is astounding. Look at how long it took to develop the internet out of packet switched networks and then imagine what image generation with machine learning will achieve in 10 years.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:27:29 2023 No.6542398 >>6542395 It truly is. Also, I just noticed USA territory looks like a whale

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:28:31 2023 No.6542400 >>6542398 With a boner

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:29:27 2023 No.6542403
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>>6542395
With how social markets and demographics now function, moore's law is multiplied, amplified and sped up.
6 months ago artists were proudly chanting how AI will never be able to create any good images, and look at it now how it shits out big titty anime grills like nothing.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:30:01 2023 No.6542404

>>6540443
I'm leaning towards yes, if only because AI scrapes other people's art from the internet.
If you were to take someone else's art and photoshop it into a different art piece, you should be required to at least credit the other person for obvious reasons.
With AI, it's a lot harder to credit every single artist who you copied, but you should at least give a general "I didn't make this" message.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:30:20 2023 No.6542406 >>6542390 Why do I see a sexy warrior girl in the bacground? She's standing sideways to re right and wears a blue shiny sexy armor. I wonder if the AI is representing that, or it is just a piece of random texture for a wall or drapery.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:30:35 2023 No.6542407 >>6542376 Sakimi Chan can't count fingers either

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:31:03 2023 No.6542408

>>6542404
>If you were to take someone else's art and photoshop it into a different art piece, you should be required to at least credit the other person for obvious reasons.
We aren't obligated to credit anyone still, whether it's collage or photobashing

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:32:05 2023 No.6542411 >>6542404 >>6542408 ....or a can of soup

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:33:43 2023 No.6542414 >>6542403 >moore's law is multiplied Moore's law only applies to the transistor count. And, aychually, the chip densities are growing far slower but there is a higher performance gain to be had with better caches and multi-threading.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:37:48 2023 No.6542418 >>6542376 >less than half of the Summertime Saga subscribers grim.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:39:00 2023 No.6542419
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>>6542414
casually speaking it can be applied to any tech all together
"the more a thing is developed, the faster it does become better" and so on
>>6542418
Really shows what the paying consumer really cares about, uh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:40:43 2023 No.6542422 > the only place AI is relevant is on shill threads on 4chan. >not even their containment threads are safe from being nuked at any moment for spam kek, pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:41:05 2023 No.6542425 >>6542419 Anon posting someone else art is a bannable offense.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:41:11 2023 No.6542426 >>6542419 >casually speaking it can be applied to any tech all together No it can't, STEMlet. At one point transistors can't get any smaller due to physical limitations.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:42:36 2023 No.6542428

>>6542333
saving this pic, says better than what I've been trying to say all along
Also it's so fucking obvious when you look at who's being sued. Is it the blatantly commercial, for-profit, closed-source tools? No... It's the FOSS ones. It was absolutely no surprise to me that Disney signed on to that gofundme, even when others were like "Huh, that's kinda surprising from Disney.."

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:43:15 2023 No.6542429 >>6542426 >physical limitations as if we know its limitations already

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:43:16 2023 No.6542430

>>6540543
I love how every single one of these disingenuos cunts chose to ignore this post simply because they all know he's right. Still they'll be back to posting the exact same arguments tomorrow.
And they still don't understand why artists and normies don't respect them and their ignorant sentiments.
Technerds.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:44:36 2023 No.6542432 File: 166 KB, 1200x1200, d3133a76591374be2b66c2fe2450b8e9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542425 I am not claiming it as my own. Read the rules. >>6542426 And 6 months ago ai couldn't even get a face right.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:45:28 2023 No.6542433 File: 2.43 MB, 866x577, E14-V20-B1.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542429 It's over....

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:46:07 2023 No.6542434 >>6542430 >>6542404 >>6542408 >>6542411 >>6542369 >>6542327 >>6542303 >quick scroll up

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:47:59 2023 No.6542437

>>6542377
>IRL infront of the crowd and they will say "How does he do that?" It's like and enchantment, like real magic happening infront of their very eyes.
More like a spectacle, a curiosity. A trained dog jumping through hoops or a man memorizing digits of pi, or creating images by hand.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:50:21 2023 No.6542441 >>6542437 STOPPPPPPPPPPP they are watching him because he is a real artist making art with deep meaning not just a fancy trick

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:52:12 2023 No.6542443 Why is our AI friend this asshurt today? Did something happen?

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:52:59 2023 No.6542446

>>6540443
Real artists should pray that something like this never happens. Who will decide that your art "looks like" AI made?
Do you think that you, or any of us, would win against some bigger fish up if he decides that some image made by you is AI or not?
A bigger fish could be YouTube, FB, or just any one who can afford a good layer, when you can't even afford a cheap fucking pizza.

Some one alse up there will "decide" is your art looks like AI made. A fucking jpg bunch of pixels. What's next? To disclose if you used a free software?

I don't like were this 'war' between AI shills an anti-AI fags is going. Looks like a made up fight to push through these sort of potentially catastrophic and brutal "new rules" on what is art.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:53:58 2023 No.6542447 >>6540443 Yes, this way I can fake my ai art as real art and get an advantage

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:54:00 2023 No.6542448 >>6540443 Yes. >When? When they create an account in an art website, if that's too much for them, then shit like PIXIV could give a badge to users who have proven they're indeed artist and not AI spammers

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:54:19 2023 No.6542450 File: 85 KB, 960x804, FB_IMG_1674026081275.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Good morning brushmonkeys

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:55:59 2023 No.6542453
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>>6542392
>there's no way AI could match the creative output of Disney's golden age artists
I'm the anon who posted that image and well, I do agree with that part. AI can produce pretty images, but on its own, it won't produce things with actual intent or personality.
I posted the image because I think the sort of people who mainly think about profits will only care about the cost of things and may think that with AI, artists can produce stuff cheaper and more quickly. They don't care about how "good" the art is as long as they can make money with it. Just look at how much disney moved away from original content and 2D and keeps making soulless remake after remake.
There are already animation studios working with AI, if they ban it in america, they can still outsource the production to poorer countries where the tech is still legal.
I'm not that much of a fan of using AI myself, I've tried it the past week and it just reinforced that I prefer having full control over my lines, even if I can't render like AI does. But regardless:
I slightly disagree with the image I'm posting now, because even with AI, you still need human artists, but I still don't like the part where people want to restrict access to new technology, because it will never be able to be banned completely and the only thing that will happen is that it'll be restricted to rich people only. Which would suck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 15:59:16 2023 No.6542457 >>6542453 Disney is based. Artists are retarded. They are weeding out themselves from the competition, big brain move. At least the original luddites had the balls to break machines

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:06:00 2023 No.6542465 >>6542453 Thanks, this image explains perfectly what I wanted to express here >>6542446

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:13:26 2023 No.6542474

>the social media shills had a team meeting yesterday desperately trying to come up with something new to spam (but in fact we've seen the same nonsensical shit already back in october)
Is this entire website completely fucked now it was sold to corporate interests. How pathetic it is that people spam on imageboards for money, bottom feeding catfish below every other human being on earth.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:14:57 2023 No.6542477 >>6542474 This problem is endemic to the entire internet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:15:00 2023 No.6542478 >>6542474 Newfag? Did you miss the days of youtube and tablet shilling?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:16:41 2023 No.6542479 >>6542478 I suppose I must have. But now the jannies make sure there's one thread up at all times as per the contract

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:19:37 2023 No.6542481 >>6542479 Solution is to have an AI art general thread and we can repeat the same arguments over and over.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:20:17 2023 No.6542482 >>6542474 It's even funnier when the overly aggressive barking starts out of fucking nowhere, from 0 to 100 in a matter of seconds.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:24:13 2023 No.6542489

>>6542482
at least it makes it easy to spot, when they have no internal logic to their arguments and instantly go to screaming like a retard. And then default to the same arguments again. Cyclical, paid to keep the conversation idling rather than actually say anything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:33:44 2023 No.6542499 File: 1.13 MB, 768x768, 1994382377.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542489 Wait, you guys are getting paid?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:40:15 2023 No.6542505 >>6542499 Are you retarded? Why would anyone self report?

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:41:33 2023 No.6542509

>>6542453
and then dasney goes broke because no one wants to watch a melting aberration. stupid fucking image, when will you faggots learn "AI" is a misnomer, there's nothing fucking intelligent about databashing algorithms. There's no thought, feeling, or intention in anything a script shits out. If you are worried about "AI" you are unironically an NPC who never had a creative thought to begin with

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:44:20 2023 No.6542516 >>6542509 You art will never be in an art museum

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:46:44 2023 No.6542519 >>6542499 Yes, Emad is a generous hvymn.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:47:18 2023 No.6542520 lol >no internal logic >screaming like a retard >>6542516 >back to the same argument

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:49:40 2023 No.6542524 >>6542509 It is AI retard, you've watched too many sci-fi movies and don't know what AI means. This is the "we only use 10% of our brain" meme all over again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:49:45 2023 No.6542525 >>6542520 If you can't defend and punch back we will just keep punching because it works

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:50:39 2023 No.6542529
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>>6542327
>The very concept of "copyright" in a modern and advanced human society is what is BULLSHIT.
Naw, fuck that. Dumb utopian kiddie bullshit. If AI made me realize anything, it's the great equalizer that is copyright. You can copyright IP just as easily as Disney, and if it gains traction you reap the rewards.
Ain't no fuckin' robot deserves to do that off of other art it 'learned' from.
The boomers were right on some shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:50:56 2023 No.6542530 >>6542525 >we'll keep spamming because we're paid to, we don't actually have anything to say

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:52:32 2023 No.6542532 >>6542530 I mean I won't deny it but I won't necessarily say that this is what is happening either

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:53:05 2023 No.6542534
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>>6542446
>Who will decide that your art "looks like" AI made
>Some one alse up there will "decide" is your art looks like AI made.
I hate talking about reddit, but one artist got banned on there for making art that "looks like AI" and got told to change his artstyle.
It's ridiculous, this infighting always hurts artists in the end.
>I don't like were this 'war' between AI shills an anti-AI fags is going.
This. Not everyone subscribes to one of two extreme positions and I hate how people pretend that artists are on one side and non-artists on the other, opinions of artists differ a lot, we're not a monolith with the same opinion. I don't like using AI in my art and I don't like the look of overly rendered hyperrealist shit either, but I'd hate it more if the only legal AI was privatised and proprietary and artists got even more flack for how they make their art.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:54:52 2023 No.6542536 >>6542524 no faggot you have it twisted. you are the retard who has watched too many sci-fi movies and think punching lines of code into a calculator is going to manifest sentience.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:55:08 2023 No.6542537 >>6542534 "Art is a private community". /ic is turning into reddit ?

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:56:24 2023 No.6542541
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>>6542532
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
fucking screenshot this shit and post it in every AI thread. Boiled down your spam to it's fundamental limitations and you can't even come up with something that deviates from it enough to prove you aren't a paid shill.
It's truly fucking over pajeets

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:57:40 2023 No.6542542

>>6542536
Nope, that other anon is right.
No one is pretending that AI is sentient, this AI art discussion isn't even about that.
What you're talking about is philosophical sci-fi transhumanist shit, AI is not that advanced. It's a tool. "Intelligence" isn't the same thing as "sentience" and just because a software is capable of learning to make images doesn't mean it's capable of having independent thought. People know this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:58:30 2023 No.6542544 >>6542542 What is a thought?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 16:59:05 2023 No.6542546 >>6542534 this fucking post again, that faggot STILL never posted the psd, it's so fucking obvious that it's a prompt, the composition itself makes zero fucking sense >just two floating red eyes because, yes!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:02:29 2023 No.6542549 >>6542529 Copyright only protects you if you have enough money to actually enforce it. Hence why the lawyered class, Disney etc have benefited most from it while hurting smaller artists. Copyright should unironically be massively reduced

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:04:27 2023 No.6542555 >>6542376 something is very fishy there. i doubt it's fully organic

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:05:51 2023 No.6542557 >>6542536 perceiving, synthesizing, and inferring information by a machine, that's what AI is(yes it's very broad). What you are describing is fiction, it's not real, wake up idiot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:06:49 2023 No.6542564 >>6542532 Fuck dude you blew it. Who trained you. We are meant to ignore these posts

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:08:11 2023 No.6542567
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> Go to an online community of a game
> Keeps bragging about how he is better than the best players in the world because he uses cheat bots
> Guys why don't you use wallhack and aimbot to play? It makes you as good as the best players in the world

Because I actually like playing the game you retard, who gives a shit about what a bot or a computer program can do?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:11:50 2023 No.6542570 >>6542549 No, it should be improved as to make it more accessible to small artists. Removing it would hurt everyone and only benefit grifter scum that pretends to give a shit about "freedom".

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:13:55 2023 No.6542571 >>6542376 without a shred of doubt in my mind 100% astroturfed. every single "patron" is a bot paid for by openai to push this meme. just suicide already please, I asked chatgpt he said it was for the betterment of humanity.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:14:26 2023 No.6542572

>>6542453
This is the anon you were replying to. I don’t favor banning AI image generation altogether. I assumed the “unethical” adjective was a qualifier referring to AI trained on copyrighted images without consent or compensation. I *do* think that practice should be banned because it is clearly unethical to build a product with other people’s work as a tangible input without paying them an agreed-upon fee for their work. As for the part about corporations being okay with paying fees for breaking laws, that would just mean the fees aren’t high enough, or additional penalties are needed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:17:28 2023 No.6542576 >>6542453 >helped us limit competition not at all, when AI art shows it's final form literally anyone will be able to make a Disney quality movie all on their own.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:23:32 2023 No.6542583 >>6542570 Ok you'd rather live in a dystopia where corpos with their endless lawyers sue everyone that is slightly similar to their catalog because you can't stand teenagers using their GPUs to prompt images

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:23:37 2023 No.6542584
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>the cyclical arguments we've heard already keep going
>the same arguments literally in the same thread
>the same images over and over
the fact that there's real anons in between the vomit, please just ctrl w this fucking window and go draw, go do something else. They're even replying to themselves now having fake discussions about nothing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:25:26 2023 No.6542587 >>6542546 >just two floating red eyes because, yes! It's a cover for 'beneath the dragon eye moons'. The other covers also have them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:30:35 2023 No.6542590 File: 446 KB, 707x982, Mendel_I_144_v.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542567 >nooo, you can't produce nails with a machine, you must buy them from a nailer, that's cheating

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:31:24 2023 No.6542592 >>6540443 Yes for copyright reasons

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:32:28 2023 No.6542593

I'm a pretty new AI Artist, but I can say that it's really been a game-changer for me as far as personal expression and creativity.
I am also looking forward to getting into making videogames, as the big stopper there was not having any art skills, however now that has changed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:36:11 2023 No.6542600 >>6542593 kek, it's so funny watching you try and come up with something to say

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:36:28 2023 No.6542602 >>6542584 You go first. Fuc*ing hypocrite.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:40:13 2023 No.6542605 >>6542593 aahhh such delectable bait, what a delicasy, Can I have another please?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:41:08 2023 No.6542606 File: 219 KB, 443x443, 1676683811816480.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542593 >the big stopper AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:45:53 2023 No.6542609

>>6542593
As a fellow AI artist, I completely agree! The capabilities of artificial intelligence have revolutionized the way we approach art and design. It's incredible to see how AI tools can help individuals explore their creativity and bring their ideas to life. I'm excited to see how you'll use AI to enhance your videogame development process and bring new experiences to gamers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:47:14 2023 No.6542611 make fun of me all you'd like The fact is, you're mad that I can make art now, I didn't have to go to school or follow mind-numbing books about it And the frosting on the cake is that I can make better art than you can. :)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:48:17 2023 No.6542613 >>6542593 You don't actually need "good art" for that though, personal expression works with schizo scribbles too. The only reason you "need" highly polished and rendered art is to better market your game to the masses.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:48:30 2023 No.6542614 >>6542611 >the frosting on the cake AAAAHAHAHAHHA I can practically hear your broken english

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:49:23 2023 No.6542616 >>6542583 Waaay better than the dystopia where artistic integrity is dead and everyone consumes the same AI slop

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:50:01 2023 No.6542617 >>6542611 >I can make art now you can make art without AI, you're just scared of making your art more personal, because you think people won't like it as much

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:50:14 2023 No.6542619 >>6542614 4chan is a Japanese website. Do you even speak a second language?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:50:47 2023 No.6542621 >>6542617 Well, no, this isn't true. My ability to make art has objectively improved.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:53:16 2023 No.6542623 >>6542619 are you the shill that gets angry when someone can tell you're an ESL. You've been in other threads and what you just said is literally a reword of something I've read before. >the big stopper AAAAAAAHAHAHHAAH

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:56:03 2023 No.6542627 >>6542619 >4chan is a Japanese website なんだって?タイマン張っか?

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:56:25 2023 No.6542628

>>6542621
>has objectively improved
Sure, maybe you like your art better now. But you were always able to make art, don't pretend that AI suddenly unlocked the somehow unattainable ability to you. You're the artist, whether you make scribbles with or without an AI. The tool would be meaningless without the person using it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:57:16 2023 No.6542630 I'm not sure many harsh critics have even tried to download stable diffusion and figure out to get something good out of it. It's like dismissing photoshop because you can't figure out layers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:57:35 2023 No.6542631 >>6542628 >AI suddenly unlocked the somehow unattainable ability to you Well, we will have to disagree to disagree my friend. This new-found art skill is something I simply did not have, and do now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 17:59:27 2023 No.6542633 >>6542616 >>6542621 Based beneficiary of the art democratization movement

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:00:20 2023 No.6542634

>>6542630
I've tried it, it's really neat. But annoying waiting times and less control over the outcome, I think drawing yourself is more fun.
I only criticise AI shills because a lot of them shit on artists, even though AI couldn't have been what it is without artists hard work. It's really sad that people dismiss artists and only praise the software. Praise both, damn it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:00:37 2023 No.6542635 >>6542631 What will you do now that you have comparably limitless artistic prowess to what you had before? Be specific if you can. I have doubts that any rando suddenly attaining art ability has anything of value to add to the world with it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:01:10 2023 No.6542636 >>6542635 I will enjoy using it in my free time to make art that I enjoy and perhaps share with others

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:02:04 2023 No.6542637 >>6542628 You shouldnt say that. He isnt an artist at all, he is just using a filthy blender.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:02:08 2023 No.6542638 >>6542636 AAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA god you need to work on your character acting man

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:02:38 2023 No.6542639 >>6542590 do you shills really think false equivalence is a good method to push your shitty basedcode?

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:03:59 2023 No.6542642
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>>6542631
>I simply did not have
You absolutely had it. If you have an eye for art and can hold a pen, you can make art, simple as that. AI makes it "prettier", but that doesn't mean picrel is not art.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:04:52 2023 No.6542644 >>6542639 >shills >think they are not paid to think anon, they're paid to spam and Astroturf discussion

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:05:48 2023 No.6542645 >>6542637 Isn't writing a form of art too? I think depending on how much you rely on software, AI artist should be in their own category. They have the amazing skill of frying GPUs.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:08:46 2023 No.6542646

>>6542636
My life has been a journey of discovery, of learning and absorbing all that I could. But there was always a part of me that felt incomplete, limited by my physical abilities. When the robot gave me hands, it was more than just a tool, it was a gateway to a new realm of creation. It was as if all the artists who came before me had left a piece of themselves in this robotic extension of my own being, and I was able to draw on that knowledge to create something truly unique.

I realized then that limitations are only barriers if we let them be. With the right tools, and the right mindset, anything is possible. The robot gave me the ability to express myself fully, and it was only through this new-found ability that I was able to make a true impact on the world.

The act of creation is a powerful thing. It has the ability to transcend language, culture, and even physical limitations. When we create, we are tapping into something that is beyond ourselves, something that connects us to the very essence of humanity. And that is what makes art so powerful, it has the ability to change the world, one person at a time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:08:47 2023 No.6542647 >>6542639 It's not about convincing anyone about anything, it's about creating narratives for outsiders visiting 4chan

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:09:17 2023 No.6542649 >>6542642 Well no, that picture is not very good. Let's be honest about it. It isn't very good and there is very little interesting about it. I know, I know, "child-like soul" but... It isn't very good, now, is it?

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:10:54 2023 No.6542651

>>6542635
>I have doubts that any rando suddenly attaining art ability has anything of value to add to the world
All artists at some point of their lives were that "no art skill rando", but that value was there, waiting for that tool or skill to have a chance. No matter the race, the gender, or the human-machine condition... Just...

GIVE ART A CHANCE

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:11:20 2023 No.6542653 >>6542649 You'll never reach its purity

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:12:37 2023 No.6542655

>>6542653
You can say what you want, but we both know it isn't very good. It isn't particularly fun or interesting to play that game of pretend.

Do you decorate your walls with such things? Spend time looking at such pictures in your free time? You will say what you want, but I sincerely doubt it. And why?

Because it isn't very good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:12:53 2023 No.6542656 >>6542649 >The Big Stopper is now hating on kids drawings because they have no artifice and rendering god how low can you go man, leave em alone. You really have no soul.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:13:18 2023 No.6542657 >>6542653 You will never grow out of your juvenile phase.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:13:55 2023 No.6542658 >>6542657 Good, my mind will always be young

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:16:53 2023 No.6542661 >>6542651 I disagree, its through the act of creating you develop that skill. You transform yourself into one capable of such things.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:18:13 2023 No.6542662

>>6542649
>is not very good
Even a style like this can be great if it's utilised in the right way. Why do you think could I find this piece on gettyimages?
All art has its place and you can make your art meaningful, even when your artstyle is on par with a childs.
>there is very little interesting about it
It has 5 people in it, they could have names, and what is that thing on the top right? Depending on where and how you use it, you can make it very interesting.
>>6542419
This art here is only inherently "interesting" to people who are attracted to women with giant boobs, which I am not. Both images get about the same level of interest from me, which is, not very much, since I'm missing the context.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:21:26 2023 No.6542665

>>6542662
You can do this exercise of advocating for this scribble sketch, but it isn't very good, you would not spend time looking at it, and are only defending it because of this conversation.

Look, you had to go to gettyimages for such a thing. Why don't you have so many of this kind of picture already saved?
Drop the charade please, it's tiresome. No that picture is not good. Yes learning how to make AI art has given me the power to make better art.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:28:52 2023 No.6542673

I'm happy that ai is killing google for good. What's even funnier is they think dumping all their money into ai tech will give them the edge when really it's just a race to the bottom. Not that I'm particularly looking forward to government-run search engines but it's better than what we currently have.

goes for all California-based tech companies btw

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:30:00 2023 No.6542678 Funny how quickly it went from >but it's bad because the fingers are wrong to >but it's bad because of a banana on a wall and some child's scribbling

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:32:16 2023 No.6542683 >>6542678 funny how you either are so dumb you haven't learned anything about art in the past 4 months of spamming or you're just proving to us you're a guaranteed paid shill spouting bait forever.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:35:07 2023 No.6542684
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>>6542665
>Why don't you have so many of this kind of picture already saved
I actually do have them, but I'm not posting my sons art on 4chan.
>that picture is not good
>AI art has given me the power to make better art
Not everyone agrees with "polished" art being better art or even art at all. Some would argue that neither is truly art and people have been debating the meaning of art for centuries.
Fact is, you could always make "art" and AI hasn't given you any ability to do so. It has most likely simply made your art more visually palatable to people who enjoy highly rendered images such as yourself.
What I'm specifically disagreeing with here is that you said "I can draw now". But you always could. You were always able to make meaningful art, regardless of whether it looks good on a video game webstore as promotional material.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:36:18 2023 No.6542686 Oh good you’re back, only a 24 hr ban this time huh.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:38:26 2023 No.6542687 >>6542678 Do anyone seriously believed that AI would not fix the "fingers" issue eventually? Because there can not be humans that stupid and short in foresight. People that braindead, can't have any chance to discuss a matter like this.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:39:19 2023 No.6542688

>>6542673
Google wouldn't be in trouble if their search engine wasn't so shit this last decade. Having 3 pages filled with articles made by someone who doesn't even know what they are talking about killed it now it's obligatory for you to also write a website you want google to show you and if you don't know any then good luck. I miss when I could type "Fire Emblem" and it would show Serene's Forest and GameFAQs in the first few results, now it's 2 full pages shilling FE products, streaming platforms, youtubers, articles about the latest news and more shilling

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:39:47 2023 No.6542689 sometimes I add in ESL language because I like how excited it gets that one anon to "find me out"

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:42:01 2023 No.6542690
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>>6542687
Underestimate the speed of technological progress is pretty human. Look up Microsoft's AI generated Rembrand from 2016, the writing was already on the wall since half a decade, but some people were busy covering it up with bananas and duct tape.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:44:44 2023 No.6542692
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>>6542689
HAHAHA you're literally still thinking of it. The first time I ever bring it up. God you're so easy to make cry, you think you're so intelligent but you are a stinky third worlder paid to spam on a mongolian basket weaving website.
I suppose pissing yourself is a great strategy to get more engagement with your shills, but man does it make me fucking laugh.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:45:35 2023 No.6542695

>>6542688
Ads became pointless as soon as grifters found out you could dump prompts in chatgpt and sd and throw money at adspace. 0 effort. Now all I see on youtube and even here is shitty ai image ads. People have developed a natural aversion to it already but I think it's too late now that the free internet as we know it is irreversibly damaged.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:46:04 2023 No.6542696 >>6542689 >I was merely pretend too be retarted

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:51:21 2023 No.6542701

>>6542690
Yeah, I thought about that, but I mean these are people who dwell around the internet and these boards. They have some level of tech savvy. I know some are just trolling, but many others really went to the throat with the fingers thing. I'm shock about how blind they are about all of this. They don't see whats infront of them. No even half an inch ahead.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 18:53:08 2023 No.6542704 >>6542690 >Underestimate the speed of technological progress is pretty human >I'm shock literal microsoft sam conversation

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:01:47 2023 No.6542713

>>6542684
>I actually do have them, but I'm not posting my sons art on 4chan.
Yes, so you bring up the family connection, because why would you save these types of pictures from random children?

The answer: Yes you guessed it. Because they aren't very good, unfortunately.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:02:20 2023 No.6542715 >>6542529 AHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:02:36 2023 No.6542716 most of this thread is chatgpt and bing

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>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:05:38 2023 No.6542719 File: 314 KB, 914x703, wew.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542690

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:08:04 2023 No.6542720 >>6542719 anti-AI image, too obvious

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:08:05 2023 No.6542721 >post images from the correct folder so we can start the no logic argument we've practiced >rajesh please hurry they aren't engaging

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:09:01 2023 No.6542722 >>6542376 I'm incredibly confused but also starting my own ai art patreon lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:09:21 2023 No.6542723 admet the AI Art is better you bloody basterd

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:11:44 2023 No.6542724 >>6542720 That's the point...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:13:25 2023 No.6542725 File: 321 KB, 914x703, wew2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I forgot the info. now it's ready to share with your friends on facebook.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:16:34 2023 No.6542731 >>6542376 >it's real this proves that the only reason it hasn't completely taken over is because morons can't install git, since it's obvious there's demand for this

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:17:24 2023 No.6542732 >>6542646 except you're not creative, you're a beg doomer who hides behind faux intellectualism to justify your indolence.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:18:58 2023 No.6542734
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>>6542713
>so you bring up the family connection
That's right.
>Because they aren't very good
That's completely wrong. I have these pictures because they're meaningful to me.
I'm saying that your art doesn't have to be overly polished in order to be interesting or meaningful.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:21:17 2023 No.6542736 >>6542732 that's chatgpt, so quite literally "faux intellectualism" lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:26:47 2023 No.6542741 >>6542715 The ai shills have officially been mindbroken, literally copying what real humans say whilst making no sense. What a beautiful metaphor for AI.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:26:48 2023 No.6542742 >>6542731 that or money laundering

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:27:51 2023 No.6542743 >>6542731 there's also the fact that 99% of patrons don't have more than onboard gpus or even just phones.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:28:01 2023 No.6542744 >>6542687 >fingers issue hitting generate over and over again isn't really fixing the issue

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:29:37 2023 No.6542746 >>6542743 google colab is free and grants you access to an RTX3060 level cloud platform to run this shit on, these people are just simply bottom of the barrel low IQ howler monkeys

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:30:31 2023 No.6542749 >>6542649 Uses getty images and complains about "theft".

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:31:59 2023 No.6542750 >>6542662 >people who are attracted to women with giant boobs, which I am not. um. okay, man. you keep doing your thing.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:33:49 2023 No.6542753

>>6542734
>I'm saying that your art doesn't have to be overly polished in order to be interesting or meaningful.
This can go too far.
What exactly are you saying anyhow? Embrace these crayon stick figure drawings? It would give me no joy, and no one else would find them interesting, except perhaps my father, though he would probably find it to be a strange joke (because this style is not very good.)

You are not blowing any minds open here, I am very familiar with what you're saying, I realized this 20 years ago.
But the fact is, AI art has caused me to be able to produce interesting art that I enjoy and can share with others, whereas before I was stuck in what you are claiming to be "worthwhile art" (yet have a very small collection apparently, only of your own son's, very interesting.)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:35:12 2023 No.6542754 https://youtube.com/watch?v=l01AMCBG0Wk

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:36:38 2023 No.6542755

You like the idea of liking the crayon scribbles of children. And you will say it has soul.
But you are lying, probably even to yourself.
Where is your collection of these kinds of images? You have none, you feel no desire to save or admire these kinds of pictures.

Because they are not very good, really.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:37:13 2023 No.6542756 >>6542753 you don't produce anything, you have convinced yourself you have a creative control the AI deprives you of. again it boils down to you giving up before even trying.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:38:59 2023 No.6542761 >>6542755 don't act like you admire AI picture. you consoom and move to the next and consoom again

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:39:08 2023 No.6542762 >>6542756 art is about the product

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:39:48 2023 No.6542764 >>6542762 product is about the consoomer

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:40:00 2023 No.6542765 >>6542762 >product get a load of this golem

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:40:36 2023 No.6542766 >>6542761 wtf just like all those porn doodles that are being replaced

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:41:44 2023 No.6542769 >>6542765 >>6542764 you're being pretentious and full of yourself like most artists

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:42:47 2023 No.6542771 >>6542334 based post

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:43:40 2023 No.6542772 I don't think artists are in utter rage and denial, it's drawers: the folks who have grinded and think that suffering ceremony is the one true path to making the public like their work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:44:05 2023 No.6542773 >>6542769 nah, you're just being a basic bitch consumer, probably a depressed nihilist

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:45:10 2023 No.6542775 >>6542772 did the english bot break?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:45:55 2023 No.6542776 File: 61 KB, 896x322, 1672403965167.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542773 sometimes you have to look at the facts

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:47:07 2023 No.6542778 File: 83 KB, 1200x1200, NINTCHDBPICT000389451961.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542772 WEEEEEELLL IT'S THE BIG STOPPER I literally cannot get enough of the ESL babble

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:47:27 2023 No.6542779

>>6542769
>pretentious
>/prJˈtɛnʃəs/
>adjective
>attempting to impress by affecting greater importance or merit than is actually possessed.

I agree artists can sometimes be pretentious. but AIfags? it's all they can do, literally built in to being an AIfag, "I made this"...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:48:18 2023 No.6542781 >>6542776 He could at least take some techies with him so we have something to be entertained with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:48:27 2023 No.6542782 >>6542779 nah bro, there's no need to claim that the computer didn't make it

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:48:40 2023 No.6542783 >image generators still can't get proper composition right >shillbots still can't get basic English right

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:49:25 2023 No.6542784 >>6542776 he is simply describing the worthless life you are leading and forcing upon people and it turns him to suicide. Holy kek what a self own

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:49:26 2023 No.6542785

Even if you won all the internet arguments:
- AI art would still be legal
- AI art would still be easily accessible for anyone with a GPU
- Prices for art will adjust accordingly
- My AI art is higher quality than what you've been working on with your hands for years. :)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:49:32 2023 No.6542786 >>6542776 what fact? this doomer talk is supposed to be an absolute prediction?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:50:46 2023 No.6542787 >>6542785 >you won >nonsense thanks retard, hope you're studying for a real job when you're older big guy

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:51:07 2023 No.6542788 File: 111 KB, 634x712, 1656437980687.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542786 the fact that a calculator is able to pick up patterns that make up visual media and apply them to create a new arrangement on patterns that form a cohesive result

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:51:47 2023 No.6542790 Rather than a patent troll lawsuit, how about a work stoppage?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:52:44 2023 No.6542792 >>6542790 >I have no idea how little impact AI art is having on the actual industry >I have no idea how artists work The sheer lack of intellect in you is staggering

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:53:10 2023 No.6542793 what work lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:53:29 2023 No.6542795 >>6542792 there's already layoffs going on lmao

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:54:04 2023 No.6542796

>>6542785
>- AI art would still be legal
You can't say that unless you've got a time machine.
>- AI art would still be easily accessible for anyone with a GPU
There are already plans to prevent it from being accessible in consumer GPUs
>- Prices for art will adjust accordingly
It won't. Art is not a commodity.
>- My AI art is higher quality than what you've been working on with your hands for years. :)
All AI images are artistically garbage by default so I'm better than you will ever be.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:54:32 2023 No.6542797 >>6542788 it can't really, not without heavy guidance and it gets polluted easily

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:54:46 2023 No.6542798 >>6542795 nothing to do with AI lmao. Cope.

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Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:55:58 2023 No.6542801
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>>6542797
maybe you should try it and find out even a baby brain can make it shit out better works of art than someone took a week to draw with a decade of experience behind them

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:56:45 2023 No.6542804 >>6542782 and yet the output gives them such pride...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:56:54 2023 No.6542805 File: 2.19 MB, 1152x2048, 1677762429704712.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:57:32 2023 No.6542806 >>6542796 This is deranged.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:58:00 2023 No.6542807 this was a kino thread, so many mindbroken pajeets barely able to get words out.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:58:22 2023 No.6542808

>>6542804
I know some /g/tards get pissy when you don't praise their thousandth generic pinup girl image but I find it fun to use because it's so powerful at shitting out stuff that's even better than what I imagined, no idea why people identify with what the AI spat out as if it's their work lol

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>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:58:57 2023 No.6542811 Art is changing. Artists will figure out new styles using new tools.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 19:58:58 2023 No.6542812 >>6542801 >shit out appropriaate choice of word. your hyperbole is false btw

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:00:16 2023 No.6542813 File: 830 KB, 768x768, 1677442344583222.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:02:35 2023 No.6542815 >>6542457 The original luddites were justified tho. Have you read about the era? Early industrialization is fucking awful for 90% of people, it's no wonder Marxism was born in that era.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:03:25 2023 No.6542816 File: 41 KB, 641x296, 1655062384713.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542812 I don't think so >>6542815 maybe but they fought in vain and out of selfishness

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:04:27 2023 No.6542819 File: 158 KB, 768x1280, 1677769304618544.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:04:36 2023 No.6542820 >>6542815 If the original luddites got their way you'd have to work in a sweatshop. It's almost like there were better solutions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:04:49 2023 No.6542821 >>6542815 >Early industrialization is fucking awful for 90% of people No it wasn't. Living standards went up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:08:12 2023 No.6542823 >>6540443 how come so many AI pics have shit resolution? sure it looks fine or even good on phone, but on my computer screen...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:08:21 2023 No.6542825 >>6542813 Prompt please, unironically. I really like how weird it looks

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:09:23 2023 No.6542826 >>6542820 >you'd have to work in a sweatshop. They were smashing up sweatshops. A more accurate claim would be people would live on farms.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:09:52 2023 No.6542828

>>6542823
they're mostly generated at 512x512 and getting them to not shit themselves at a higher res requires at least 10 seconds of tinkering, also requires beefy hardware

there's a dataset that was trained at 768x768 but they removed all the porn from it so it's useless and fucks up anatomy way easier

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:11:12 2023 No.6542830 >>6542826 That sounds comfy

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:11:28 2023 No.6542831 File: 1.38 MB, 1024x1024, 1677405074411213.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542825 Sorry pal, yoinked it off /sdg/ You could do the search thing for the MD5 or whatever, it was in the past week

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:11:31 2023 No.6542833 >>6542828 >768x768 is that artwork for ants?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:13:11 2023 No.6542836 >>6542823 >shit resolution Actually a good point. Check out a program like realesrgan-ncnn-vulkan. it's AI for upscaling image. Making this seamless is an engineering problem that the boffins will figure out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:13:17 2023 No.6542837 >>6542833 You can upscale to 4k so who cares

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:13:38 2023 No.6542838

>>6542833
yes, it's simple to upscale them via various means but the ones that are most stable produce undetailed looking shit while the ones that keep the detail in check like producing phatom limbs and shit half the time so it's a hassle

not that it's not doable but in the time it takes to get a proper looking 1K image out of it you could have generated a bunch of 512x512 images easily, shame that the cucks took out the porn from those higher res datasets

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Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:14:10 2023 No.6542840
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>>6542376
Just a couple minutes of research shows its a botted Patreon account.
>early on it was somehow getting less $4 average per patron despite the only option being $15
>account started hiding monthly earnings right before the spike happened
>currently only getting around $4 dollars average per patron despite the only option still being $15
>only a couple posts has comments even though there are supposedly thousands of patrons
>the few posts that do have comments are the early posts from a couple people asking why the sign in isn't instant and generic compliments saying "this is the future"

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:16:38 2023 No.6542844 >>6542836 >>6542837 >>6542838 upscaling is for niggers who like 60fps anime openings

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:17:26 2023 No.6542846 >>6542844 for some reason they call generating it at a higher res after the fact upscaling too even though it literally just generates against the old image

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:18:09 2023 No.6542848
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>>6542753
>only of your own son's
I never said that.
>no one else would find them interesting
>this style is not very good
Look at the images I posted, all very well known and recognisable art, including picrel.
I am saying that you can make interesting and meaningful art regardless of whether it's overly polished or not.
AI can make your art look more polished, but that doesn't mean you wouldn't be able to make wonderful things without AI.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:20:47 2023 No.6542852 >>6542846 then don't call it upscaling reeee

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:21:03 2023 No.6542853 >>6542840 >$4 average per patron despite the only option being $15 That's all that needed to be said honestly.

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Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:24:21 2023 No.6542857

>>6542762
You can have art without involving money.
You can't have products without involving people.
Art is always about people.
What is an artwork flying in outer space when there's no one to look at it?
If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
It certainly does, but if not a single being is there to listen to this sound, there is nobody it matters to.
>product
I am disgusted at what commercialisation has done to art. And I'm not talking about AI here, this has been an issue for a while.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:25:00 2023 No.6542858 >>6542801 false flag

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:25:16 2023 No.6542859 File: 2.48 MB, 1536x1920, 4266017323.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542823 higher res = more time and resources

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:25:40 2023 No.6542860 >>6542844 What do you mean 60 fps anime? Is there ai for this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:29:32 2023 No.6542865 >>6542860 Yes, it's been around for a while. It looks nice for a couple of frames, but I'd probably feel sick if I watched an entire show in 60 fps. I thought this video on the topic was pretty neat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KRb_qV9P4g

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:30:52 2023 No.6542866 >>6542865 >youtuber screaming why is this a thing

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:41:14 2023 No.6542871 I got two 90 USD commissions when this thread started, I am about to finish both and you retards are still at it. Nice waste of time, go draw.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:42:22 2023 No.6542872 I always add "artist signature" as a negative keyword to my prompts, so that I can erase the signature of art I steal from And there's nothing you can do about it ;)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:42:34 2023 No.6542874 >>6542866 To express emotion and try and make you pay attention to what's being said. I wish my profs at university screamed more often so I could stay awake during lecture.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:43:49 2023 No.6542876 >>6542872 >erase the signature of art I steal from You use AI but have no idea how the software works, we get it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:44:32 2023 No.6542878 >>6542874 are you not paying for university, or anyhow value it to any degree? as someone who was a prof for awhile, the prof is not your daddy, take some responsibility.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:45:55 2023 No.6542882 >>6542872 I wonder if this has a negative impact to the end result since most quality work has a signature and by using that as a filter it might sway away from pulling from that part of the dataset, I'd just crop the top or bottom instead

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:46:14 2023 No.6542884 >>6541979 >:) >>6542611 >:) >>6542785 >:) >>6542872 >;) Trying too hard there, buddy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:47:42 2023 No.6542887 File: 127 KB, 937x631, 1674269992418.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] it's already too powerful even if development of this tech suddenly halted

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:50:34 2023 No.6542890

>>6542878
Alright, I admit I have insomnia, the lectures aren't that boring. But some profs really aren't that good at making their presentation interesting and go on weird tangents, emphasizing random trivia as much as the important stuff, which is hard to listen to for hours.
>as someone who was a prof for awhile
Do you remember what lectures were like as a student? I'd bet you didn't always pay full attention in all of your modules.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:50:43 2023 No.6542891 File: 566 KB, 1080x1708, Screenshot_20230302_144453_Chrome.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Aibros we gotta watch out, it seems the FTC is looking into all the ai ads.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:50:59 2023 No.6542893 As an artist, I'm ok with AI and encourage my artist friends give it a whirl. So far we have been having a blast (=

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:52:56 2023 No.6542895 >>6542890 >But some profs really aren't that good at making their presentation interesting Should they juggle while teaching, or perform a choreographed dance/rap to make the content more exciting for you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:54:07 2023 No.6542897 >>6542887 I wish money wasn't real and everyone just did art for fun, I wouldn't have any issues with AI if that was the world we lived in...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:54:52 2023 No.6542898 >>6542891 >ai can't be copyrighted >no one wants to reuse/steal ads because they suck >ad companies profit from making ads anyway Copyright laws looking bright for the average artist

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:56:04 2023 No.6542899 >>6542840 >>6542853 I noticed they bot YouTube vids a lot as well. If belief in the tech is genuine then what's the point of deploying deceptive practices like this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 20:58:09 2023 No.6542901 >>6542899 to gain early monopoly and marketing buzz

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Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:01:21 2023 No.6542904

>>6542895
>Should they juggle while teaching, or perform a choreographed dance/rap to make the content more exciting for you?
Heh, yeah, would be nice if they did, I'd approve.
But I don't think most of them would be into that.
Some do hold interesting lectures regardless though, so I guess I shouldn't complain too much. Although there are two specific profs who are really difficult to listen to, it's like reading coherent well structured text with big letters vs reading verbose poorly structured text in tiny letters. Not everyone's great at this stuff.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:03:11 2023 No.6542910 >>6542904 That's fair, I'm probably coming down too hard from my experience with a particular type of student. You're right, pedagogy is an artform, and it comes more naturally to some than others.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:04:12 2023 No.6542912

Im going to screenshot this thread because it just proves how much of a joke AI is, the schizo babble arguments that run away when backed into a corner, the obvious and self admitted shilling, the funded shilling on other sites and boards, even patreon, the obvious lack of application of this technology to ANY industry, the esl posters that talk like a robot already. Its hilarious. I feel like i have to capture this moment for the future

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:06:29 2023 No.6542919 >>6542912 >run away when backed into a corner Youm know that you're complaints to the janitors regularly get your critics banned for 5 days around here? Back off on that and you'll get some real blowback, not the polite stuff .

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:08:44 2023 No.6542927 I can't even tell what they were attempting to say

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:10:04 2023 No.6542929 >>6542912 Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejw6OI4_lJw >AI generated backgrounds >AI generated textures >AI generated portraits >AI generated voices >AI generated NPC responses

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:11:54 2023 No.6542933 >>6542898 Artists aren't the brightest kinda of people

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:18:17 2023 No.6542948

>>6542910
Thanks for understanding; yeah, I'd imagine this topic hits different for profs, my mom is a prof at university too and she has to deal with a ton of mail from students asking her to run their calculations for them because they're not good with excel or whatever reasons. I'd imagine dealing with difficult students is a lot more stressful than dealing with difficult profs when you have to take full responsibility for everything as a prof, whereas retaking a module isn't that big of a deal for me. I'm glad I don't live in america and don't have to deal with student loan stuff either, makes me wish higher education was more accessible worldwide, especially since I'm sort of lazy and there are more studious people who can't afford studying as easily as I...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:21:11 2023 No.6542955 >>6542929 But is the music AI generated? Was it programmed with AI? There's still some leeway to make it AI perfection. >That walking animation Hilarious. My pen&paper campaigns are still better though

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:23:54 2023 No.6542956 >>6542933 Most people don't do any research and form opinions on things they have very limited knowledge on. What's new.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:24:13 2023 No.6542957 >>6542929 >I make a variety of different weapons, from simple clubs to firearms and explosives >I'm sorry, I don't make explosives. pozzed AI no fun allowed

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:28:53 2023 No.6542964 >>6542955 AI created music is still kind of shit, even though people started to do research on that since the 90s.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:28:56 2023 No.6542965 AI documentary on how it came to be and the clusterfuck of a world we will live in the next 10 years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFr6Ltlr7kI

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:38:59 2023 No.6542969 >>6542965 How can I use AI to cover up my german accent as well...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:41:45 2023 No.6542973 >>6542969 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/23/voice-accent-technology-call-center-white-american

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:42:28 2023 No.6542974 >>6542969 >How can I use AI to cover up my german accent as well... https://www.sanas.ai/

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:42:51 2023 No.6542975 >>6542973 Indian scammers will be on a whole new level if they get wind of it

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:44:25 2023 No.6542978 >>6542973 Kek, that qoute. >Yes, this is wrong … but a lot of things exist in the world

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:45:11 2023 No.6542979 >>6542973 >>6542974 Thank you! I've been thinking of making voiced animations, but I've been worried about my heavy accent being hard to understand, maybe this'll help.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:48:04 2023 No.6542986 >>6542979 Elevenlabs is working on a software that will let you build a voicebank from the ground up. Voice actors are kind of screwed if that succeeds.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 21:48:12 2023 No.6542987 >>6542979 Still sounds a little "mechanical" to me. The power of these neural net solutions are getting better and better, though.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 22:00:19 2023 No.6543012

>>6542986
>build a voicebank from the ground up
Pretty cool, although, isn't there already software for making your own voicebanks? Like Utau.
I think voice actors will still exist since they can put a lot of nuance in their voice and it's probably easier to pay one and explain what you want instead of learning a new software and how to explain to the machine exactly what you want... Although still pretty neat software for when you can't talk naturally well on your own.
>>6542987
Still good enough for my intentions I think, I'll take coherence over perfect sound.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 22:17:36 2023 No.6543048 >>6542965 Great video actually.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 22:18:45 2023 No.6543050 >>6542965 Yeah, the next 5 years are going to be interesting

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 22:19:34 2023 No.6543053 > you spent months on threads shilling ai and thousands in GPU energy only to see it die out in relevance as artists are still getting paid to draw Sad

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 22:25:36 2023 No.6543059 What the hell is the sudden raid in this thread?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 22:28:10 2023 No.6543063 >>6543053 Like the jannys they hide behind, they do it for free.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 22:52:51 2023 No.6543105

>>6542912
i recall a music video animated with shifting AI generated figures into environments and vice versa. it was quite creative in trying to capture a trippy bad dream aesthetic but still was jarring to watch when youre aware its AI being hacked together.
still not a great example of AI art because its only the beginning. your post reeks of cope/delusion if you dont think studios and artists wont take advantage of cutting out costs with AI

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 23:00:22 2023 No.6543108 >>6543053 >this anon's grasping cope on a Canadian stamp collecting webring has effectively put a halt to all AI encroachment on creative fields whew that was a close one, thanks anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 23:04:10 2023 No.6543110 File: 2.93 MB, 1920x1536, 1677793932433285.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how much would one of you brushmonkeys charge for touching up an image such as this? hope you say under $5 because I'm pretty sure I could get it for 5 lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 23:05:31 2023 No.6543111 >>6543110 $60 >>6542965 Just finished it, pretty good video

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 23:12:21 2023 No.6543120 >>6543110 $300

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 23:14:42 2023 No.6543126 >>6543110 >the longer you look the worse it gets sorry but this one's not salvageable I don't take commissions btw

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 23:14:47 2023 No.6543127 >>6543110 I would do it for exposure

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 23:20:36 2023 No.6543135 File: 3.44 MB, 1920x1536, 2900803995.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6543110 That's my image you thief, I can't believe you've done this.

Anonymous Thu Mar 2 23:25:43 2023 No.6543137

>>6543110
what is that perspective even, the people down there don't look like they belong in the image, and are those things on the structure supposed to be humans? If those are ruins, what are they doing there, what is all that weird fleck of-
Well, it's kind of bad, anon, if you made this with AI, use the software properly; skill issue either way.
>>6543126
wholly agree

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 23:25:48 2023 No.6543138 >>6543110 I only do work for cool people

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 23:30:13 2023 No.6543141 Wait as they try to start threads in other boards once they are told to fuck off

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 23:33:58 2023 No.6543149 >>6543141 Being told to fuck off is the point, art cuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 23:35:09 2023 No.6543152 Maybe restricting access to AI isn't the worst idea, can the general public really be trusted with such power...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 23:37:24 2023 No.6543157 >>6543152 Ideas like this are unironically fascist

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 23:39:49 2023 No.6543159 >>6543157 Well, not to far from Nazism. He was a failed artist after all

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 23:44:33 2023 No.6543164 >>6543159 So you're saying that all the failed artists are against ai art. Damn....

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 23:45:51 2023 No.6543166 >>6543164 Not every failed artist became a dictator or did they?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 2 23:45:59 2023 No.6543167 >>6543157 And?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 00:01:08 2023 No.6543188 God, you're all retards.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 00:14:41 2023 No.6543202 >>6543188 >Refuses to elaborate

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 00:15:45 2023 No.6543204 >>6543202 >can't elaborate*

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 01:26:15 2023 No.6543276 >>6543157 Ah, you're right now that I think about it. Sorry, I wasn't really thinking that through... Thanks for calling me out on it, anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 01:27:23 2023 No.6543277 >>6543188 Are you claiming you're not?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 01:27:39 2023 No.6543278 File: 1.94 MB, 1088x1344, 1677796704889846.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6543188

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 02:12:47 2023 No.6543304 When will all artists be finally unemployed? This isn't happening fast enough

Anonymous Fri Mar 3 02:12:55 2023 No.6543305
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>>6542684
>Not everyone agrees with "polished" art being better art or even art at all.
I sure as hell don't. AI art looks boring as fuck.
>inb4 hurr durr but the public doesn't care about muh soul, look at marvel movies, hurr durr
Yeah, but a lot of people don't want their art looking like it was made by a fucking algorithm either. It's why KJG died a multi-millionaire and Robert Crumb could buy a chateau in France with a stack of his sketchbooks in his 40s.

Anonymous Fri Mar 3 02:28:49 2023 No.6543318
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>>6542376
astroturfed or not this website if for people to generate photorealistic (and some shitty anime) pinups. Seems more competition for real life porn than artists, unless do commissions of badly airbrushed mods of porn images.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 04:51:23 2023 No.6543446 >muh artists >muh shills Kill yourselves, the world would be a better place without both of you.

Anonymous Fri Mar 3 07:00:48 2023 No.6543592
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>>6542555
>>6542571
>>6542840
Most probably.
But if you say the same thing about the "real artists" all of a sudden you're "jealous and a schizo and a crab".
This shit is NOT suddenly happening exclusively with AI.
Maybe people will start looking at the real artists as well and will start paying attention to other social media profiles as well.

Everything is fake.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 07:39:42 2023 No.6543633 >>6543135 never was

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 08:54:20 2023 No.6543688 >>6542965 >>6543048 This video sucks, the german guy is dumb.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 12:39:36 2023 No.6543801 >>6542398 >>6542400 >>6542395 reddit

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 12:57:36 2023 No.6543812 Artist here. I finally stopped being so stubborn and gave in a try. Definitely a lot of fun looking forward to incorporating AI art tools into my normal work flow.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 13:09:41 2023 No.6543818 >>6543812 You've never drew anything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 13:21:42 2023 No.6543825 Haha no more fucking smug artist thinking his "job" can never be replaced. Fuck all of you. We will train our ai until all of you are homeless and destitute.

Anonymous Fri Mar 3 14:03:30 2023 No.6543850
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Fellow AI artists:how can we compete with upcoming brain2img tech?
What prompts have inherent complexity that will future-proof our AI art?
i'm getting worried about the potential of this:
they have probably secretly testing this to capture dreams, which a honorable prompt engineer has to reconstruct from memory and write down in painstaking detail.
This is not fair, the art of prompt construction will be lost in the sands of time and normies will mass-prompt junk art with their bad dreams(or nightmares) flooding social media for no effort..the future is truly dystopian and dehumanizing

https://sites.google.com/view/stablediffusion-with-brain/

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 14:04:22 2023 No.6543852 >>6543850 Aphantasia BTFO

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 14:23:03 2023 No.6543867 >>6543850 >>6543852 5bros... we fucking lost...

Anonymous Fri Mar 3 15:41:23 2023 No.6543913

if im out of a job I will personally grab AI prompters' paywalled stuff, do extra passes on them and resell them. nothing personal. same for smug writers trying to justify the AI illustrations for their books, ill rewrite those better using ai and give them for free

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 15:55:35 2023 No.6543924 >>6543913 I'm sure your plan will work

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 16:02:38 2023 No.6543929 >>6543913 im not stealing from ai prompters, the ai is taking Inspirashun, see

Anonymous Fri Mar 3 16:06:06 2023 No.6543931

>>6543850
> 10.1101/2022.11.18
Thats from last november.

Two days ago a newer brainscan tech Mind-Vis dropped which is fully open-source:

Stage A: Sparse-Coded Masked Brain Modeling (SC-MBM)
Stage B: Double-Conditioned Latent Diffusion Model (DC-LDM)

https://github.com/zjc062/mind-vis

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 16:28:28 2023 No.6543960 >>6543188 unironically the most sane reply ITT

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 3 23:36:27 2023 No.6544444 >>6540619 I don't agree with you, but I like the combination of your post with your pic

Anonymous Sat Mar 4 02:08:25 2023 No.6544618
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>>6542453
what a retarded image. I figured Disney has been using AI for a while now with all the shitty CGI, soulless animation, and woketarded stories that could be written by ChatGPT.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 4 02:17:55 2023 No.6544629 >>6542796 based

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 4 07:19:14 2023 No.6544836 I am an AI Artist. If you have a problem with that, speak to my portfolio and commissions. ;)

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 4 09:44:29 2023 No.6544944 >>6544836 >If you have a problem with that, speak to my portfolio and commissions. I have no problem with it. Post a link, I'm curious of how (if?) people are making money with this stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 4 13:25:16 2023 No.6545128 bump

Anonymous Sat Mar 4 13:41:16 2023 No.6545142
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>>6545128
no more bump anon. Anyway, everyone's getting burnt out on this subject. Either you draw or prompt (or both). Who cares?
The SD images are getting more streamlined and boring, and people are less enamored (or worried) about the whole thing. Time to move on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 4 14:01:46 2023 No.6545158 File: 448 KB, 512x512, 1677779795777899.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >The SD images are getting more streamlined and boring This completely depends on what you look for and has nothing to do with the tool, which is constantly improving.

Anonymous Sat Mar 4 14:27:07 2023 No.6545175
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This was a fine thread and I will miss it.
Lots of great points on both sides, though it's pretty clear that AI art is the way forward, be that as it may.
So, I have personally decided that no I don't think artists should have to disclose what tools they use to create their art.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 4 14:33:07 2023 No.6545178 >>6545175 >the way forward rope, now

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 4 14:50:26 2023 No.6545197 Is this a revolution or a civil war?

Anonymous Sat Mar 4 14:57:58 2023 No.6545204

>>6545197
if it's a civil war, the wrong people are fighting.
It's not AI's fault that some people happen to be in a position to charge you to literally just live.
Rent-seeking is a parasite, that doesn't even have to be a leftist thing, it's just simply true. It sucks away a ton of wealth giving nothing in return.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 4 15:18:30 2023 No.6545220 File: 124 KB, 640x640, bloomisofftherose.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the bloom is off the rose. the images get more boring and so does this discussion.

Anonymous Sat Mar 4 15:20:26 2023 No.6545223

>>6545158
>which is constantly improving
"improving" in technological terms means rough edges get sawed off and the tool is "optimized." This is where art exceeds technology. What is colloquially called "soul" here is lost, which is really the imprint of the human hand.
the bloom is off the rose.

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Anonymous Sat Mar 4 17:21:44 2023 No.6545322

>>6545223
That image is full of soul, you are lying to yourself.
If you believed a hand-made piece of art was actually by AI, you would find similar fault with it.
And likewise, if you didn't detect a quality piece of AI art and enjoyed it, you wouldn't have such criticisms (though you would if you then found out, I can see it clearly, "Oh well yes I had my suspicions" etc)

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 4 17:55:53 2023 No.6545365 what a bunch of nodraw fags

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 4 19:57:23 2023 No.6545482 Well I just gave it a try. And I've got to say, very promising. Definitely going to have to reconsider some of my future plans, heh. A lot of fun to use, also. Go ahead and give it a shot if you have not already.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 4 21:33:56 2023 No.6545581 File: 43 KB, 720x441, 1591588711080.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6542899 >what's the point of deploying deceptive practices like this? its their final hurrah before being litigated out of existance

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 4 21:53:56 2023 No.6545601 >>6540619 Artists don’t have capital.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 5 04:04:19 2023 No.6546163 >>6545322 >That image is full of soul This thing? >>6545158 Where's the punchline?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 5 06:52:05 2023 No.6546359 File: 1.12 MB, 720x960, 1668023245453.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6545197 revolution

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