Peter Han on AI

[Anonymous No.6360375]

>So the comment I have for people is:
>Get better.
>Y'know, if you're scared about digital mediums and AI art
>You, yourself, train yourself to become better than that.

He has a completely different take on AI compared to Zapata that a lot of you probably disagree with but I think he's based. https://youtu.be/zc5EDf7CYKk?t=2562

[Anonymous No.6360382]

Contrarian cuckold. Being better than AI won't make a game company hire you over a machine that can print out several thousand decent quality concept pieces before you can create one good one. Businesses and consumers don't care about quality they care about quantity and how fast you can get new content out there. Look at how many people still support known tracers.

[Anonymous No.6360392]

Actually who?

[Anonymous No.6360396]

>>6360375
>so you've discovered getting a job and wanting to make much money are not the same thing with labor units not being the source of value and that hyperinflation will eradicate your savings? Work harder
That's a retarded boomer tier take. Human are long outdated hardware struggling to run newer and newer software. Simple as that. You're not competing with this atomic chain reaction of intelligence that akin to an entity that become invincible to a weapon fire it once.

[Anonymous No.6360400]

>>6360382
Look at seasonal anime. They might as well retire the decision dartboard and just roll out the AI.

[Anonymous No.6360401]

>>6360375
What a retard. It's thanks to docile little bitches like this that they are getting away with scrapping our shit for free.

[Anonymous No.6360403]

>>6360396
>That's a retarded boomer tier take. Human are long outdated hardware struggling to run newer and newer software. Simple as that. You're not competing with this atomic chain reaction of intelligence that akin to an entity that become invincible to a weapon fire it once.
I have yet to see a not shit AI generated image.

[Anonymous No.6360406]

>>6360403
Let's see how that holds up in a few years.

[Anonymous No.6360408]

If you're lucky enough to subsist on private, high-priced commission work, then yeah, exceeding the quality that generators can produce for your particular genre of art is a very reasonable and achievable goal, because if somebody sees enough value in your work to continuously pay out the ass for it, they probably won't be satisfied with whatever the machine can generate. But for most people, especially newer artists, that just isn't sustainable.
And that's the thing: most good+ artists had a phase where their work was just acceptable, and through finding life-sustaining work at that skill level, they had the means and time to improve to become great. But if all those jobs get shipped off to image generating sweatshops, they won't be able to, and will struggle to ever become great. Of course that's what the people who push this want, to pull those with ambition back down to the wageslave pile with their unmotivated, uncreative asses.

Just look at the soulless animation spawned by the invention of computerized tweening - "good enough" results generated by a computer, the most prevalent animation and art styles adjusted to fit what the computer could handle best, reduced need for animation apprenticeships in the form of inbetweeners (leading to less opportunity for young animators to learn and improve), ultimately leading to even blander, more middle-of-the-road crap with little passion becoming the norm. Oh, and the "innovation" before that was cheap, overseas animation sweatshops.

[Anonymous No.6360410]

>>6360406
>Let's see how that holds up in a few years.
Sure, no problem.

[Anonymous No.6360538]

>>6360375
Why worry about AI, they just like slap ton op picture together and trade it. They are photo editor, faster but less skill.
You should worry about legality issues. The whole AI thing is sponsored by kike and run by shameless pajeets. In the future they will try to claim copyright on the artstyle and artist will be forbidden to draw in their own style. That is the ultimate goal of them. The Pantome thing is a warning.

[Anonymous No.6360542]

>>6360375
Someone post the Luke drawing, you know the one.

[Anonymous No.6360545]

>>6360538
>be artist
>post your work
>somebody downloads your work
>makes a model out of it at the behest of his employer
>gives you no credit
>company copyrights the model
>immediately issues C&D on the original artist for trying to illegally commercialize pieces which could've come from his model because the style is similar
>wouldn't hold up in court, but 99% of artists don't have the resources to fight it
OOOH SAY CAN YOU SEE

[Anonymous No.6360555]

>>6360375
>Get better so they can steal your good art, goyim
Yawn.

[Anonymous No.6360558]

>>6360382
Bullshit. Commercial art for conceptart and so on are very quality based. Art market is oversaturated and studios only hire the most talented people who the director is fond of, not some loser that will give them boss design commission for 20$.

However, who says that AI wont become better then even the best artist ever. Making breathtaking details, incorporating original anatomy that still looks realistic and perfectly proportional.

[Anonymous No.6360569]

>>6360558
Paying 99 dollars a year for an AI art license vs. paying a team of concept artists.

[Anonymous No.6360584]

>>6360558
>Making breathtaking details, incorporating original anatomy that still looks realistic and perfectly proportional
It can only do those things if actual artists feed it more data.

[Anonymous No.6360607]

>>6360403
Aside from the the fact that this toddler stage tech is rapidly advancing, I couldn't give 100% of a shit what anyone on this site has to say about commercial art, ever since /ic/ got everything so wrong in real time when that guy complained about his grade for chainsaw man sculpt and came out with a total victory. It's even less relevant when the images are used as part of background composition. They absolutely do better in that regard than a group of paid assembly workers that need to be managed.

Why is a person even needed for this purely function-wise? To drag and drop like they already do with smart material in substance painter?
https://youtu.be/R-652YnoGUE

Peter Han was it? I'll remember that name. I know how people are. They don't care, notice, or believe something until it personally affects them. It's narcissism and selection bias rolled up into one and a very obvious thing to notice and correct. Watch how he'll change his tune when he gets mogged by AI.

[Anonymous No.6360615]

>>6360607
Did you use Google translate or deepl to make this post? Something strange about it.

[Anonymous No.6360627]

>>6360615
I've been chatting with too many bots on this site lately while going through psychosis drills to prepare for the future.

[Anonymous No.6360967]

>>6360545
It is a slippery slop to monopoly art.
https://youtu.be/RITTiAjEtoM
Back then the concept of "AI art" is still new, there are several of these video of pajeet with deepfake avatar, talk in gibberish English like this one, promote the idea that owner of the AI hold the "copyright" of art. Even a shoeless thirdworlder like me understand "copyright" is wide and far than just owning a piece of art.
That why they released these shitty AI for free, they desperately colllect artists' style for their database. They don't really care about AI, they care about copyright their AI database, so in the future they can copy strike any artist for drawing in their own style. In the future, cop will raid your house because your kid draw "unlicensed" anime in their notebook at school. No body allowed to do art anymore.
If you think I'm a schizo, I will tell you they already copyrighted the artstyle "Ahegao" or certain colors. They just wait to have enough power to enforce it.
(((They)))*

[Anonymous No.6360984]

>>6360375
Peter Han is very self centered. He also has the "just let it happen, don't resist" stance. I see this a lot from established artists.

>"there is enough room for AI art and real art, because there is an infinite amount of room" what? is there an infinite amount of money? or time?

Many peoples minds have already been changed. Zapata's video was powerful, and brought many fence sitters onto the Artists side. The more that happens, the less money that will flow to AI art. More support for lawsuits, more rights for artists. Don't let them keep the accelerator held down, don't help accelerate your own automation.

[Anonymous No.6360986]

I agree with Zapata partly but he comes off as such a whiny fucking faggot when talking about AI it makes me want to be a contraian. I couldn't watch him talk about it for more than 5 minutes without get second hand embarrassment and closing the vid.

[Anonymous No.6361000]

>>6360408
So basically art will once again return to be a pursuit for only the wealthy.

[Anonymous No.6361008]

>>6360375
So when will we see the first instance of luddite terrorism and assassination? It's only a matter of time before an angry artist with a gun shoots up the headquarters of Stability AI or beheads Emad on a livestream.

[Anonymous No.6361011]

>>6360984
Posthumanism is the way forward. the internalization of technology is already beginning albeit a bit late. You're doing it the naive luddite faggot way and in the end the law lags behind technology and won't be able to stop it in time. Become a cyborg or die clamoring to the state for stagnation.

[Anonymous No.6361014]

>>6360375
>>6360396
>>6360401
easy for him to say because he's already made it

[Anonymous No.6361024]

>>6361011
What? a luddite faggot? I have nothing against tech that improves lives. I didn't ask for this.

[Anonymous No.6361052]

All of them are pro AI shills under the urface lol. Zapata is the biggest of them all.

[Anonymous No.6361054]

>>6361052
>Zapata being an AI shill

did you even watch his video, or do you spread contrarian information just to derail any real discussion?

[Anonymous No.6361063]

>>6361008
Inshallah

[Anonymous No.6361075]

>>6361011
Cyborgs are transhumanism. Posthumanism is human extinction dumbass. Also, this debate over if we should allow AI art or not is key point in history. If art itself is not sacred enough to not automate, then what is? It’s slippery slope of allowing AI to do massive amount of damage to the world and in the end rob us of our humanity. This should be the time in modern history where people finally draw the line and stop with some fields of advancement, rejecting godlike powers for moral reasons.

[Anonymous No.6361076]

Why worry so much when ai still can't do hands, poses, feet or anything that isn't a portrait or landscape.
There's nothing you can do about it anyway, lol.

[Anonymous No.6361078]

>>6361011
>using luddite as an insult in 2022 hellworld
yeah, you're trolling, but some people are seriously saying this shit. luddite should be considered a compliment nowadays.

[Anonymous No.6361079]

>>6361076
The only thing I get from watching "well done" AI art is the question "Why would anyone waste so much time polishing a turd?"

[Anonymous No.6361081]

>>6361078
>>6361075
sure, I'm sure Nancy Pelosi and AOC will fight for you, the little guy, lmao

[Anonymous No.6361082]

>>6361081

[Anonymous No.6361083]

>>6361076
Exactly, it's just annoying the shit gets spammed everywhere

[Anonymous No.6361084]

>>6361079
>waste so much time
you mean fixing it afterwards in post, the hands, and messed up detail?

cause these things only take a minute or two to generate

[Anonymous No.6361086]

>>6361082
yes, the only country that matters

[Anonymous No.6361088]

>>6361084
Nigger if you ever did any artistic thing in your life you'd knew it takes a metric fuckton of time to "fix" shit in a image, redrawing would unironically be faster than playing gacha with AI or trying to photoshop the errors.

[Anonymous No.6361090]

>>6361054
I did. Just because he drones on about "lawsuits against AI" doesnt mean he isnt malicious. Hes striking fear into weak artists. Theres a story about Genghis Kahns spies spreading word of his power amongst the enemy before war to demoralize them. Zapata is a very dirty mole.
Don't you also find it very INTERESTING that draftsmen suddenly started rolling again only to immedeately talk about AI?
These freaks are bringing doomposting to the general public but in a much more subtle way because you can't just post a makima pic and say "its over" to an average normie, he will immedeately recoil and know you're a snake.

[Anonymous No.6361091]

>>6361090
We're reaching levels of shitposting that shouldn't be possible.

[Anonymous No.6361094]

>>6361088
yes, that's why Ai is still a meme
I asked because you seem to assume people who make these things do it with the intent to fix stuff in post, they don't.
They make it because they are nerds and weebs, and really have nothing in common with artists except for the results, like a photographer.

That's what I mean by not worrying, they were never your customers, nor do most of them care about art at all.

[Anonymous No.6361095]

>>6361090
based if true, what a Machiavellian twist

[Anonymous No.6361097]

>>6361081

[Anonymous No.6361098]

>>6361088
Kek you think they know anything about anything. I still think about that picture they posted saying "its over" but they couldnt see the head and torso are in completely different perspectives. Or the guy that said
>there is a perspective, its the perspective of a cctv camera.
Thats not even going into composition or colours, they don't know how much they dont know

[I Hate Niggers No.6361100]

>>6361075
The road to human extinction will require a stop at the gas station but we'll get there and leave you behind with MUH BEAUTIFUL HUMANITY cliche.

The flesh is weak:
https://youtu.be/YTsc_3IXLGs

[Anonymous No.6361103]

>>6361100
the cool toys are for the elites, all you are going to get is the possibility to put your brain inside a jar. sorry rajesh.

[Anonymous No.6361104]

>>6361088
>trying to photoshop the errors.
So no different from digital artists.

[Anonymous No.6361105]

>>6361090
Also, I will add a little prediction that human posters of this board might find interesting and might help them along the way:
You can expect Ahmed Aldoori, Sinix, Ethan Becker and more artists from that circle (you know what I'm talking about) to release AI related videos soon with a similar tone. At the very least all of them will be invited to draftsmen to talk about this so the podcast gets AN ENTIRE SEASON worth of AI talk, infecting more and more minds with doubt. Because anyone who can draw a nice line drawing knows, art is mostly about faith and confidence.

[Anonymous No.6361106]

>>6361103
Then I'll be having fun with the cool toys then.

[Anonymous No.6361107]

>>6361088
>redrawing would unironically be faster than playing gacha with AI or trying to photoshop the errors
that depends on the image and the quality of the "artist,: I mean PS monkeys... tho they call themselves "Graphic Designers" now...

[Anonymous No.6361108]

>>6361105
THE FIX IS ON!!

[Anonymous No.6361111]

>>6361104
>redrawing would unironically be faster
>trying to photoshop the errors
Can you read? And no, anyone half competent will catch the errors in the sketch

[Anonymous No.6361113]

>>6361111
the goal is to replace skilled artists with cheap Photoshop monkeys, they are fine with acceptable flaws, most people can't tell anyway

[Anonymous No.6361139]

>>6360396
>boomer take: work harder & things will get better
>gen x take: just draw, man
>millennial take: fight the system
>zoomer take: ayo bruh we rly vibin on ai fr
I admit I have the chill gen x take, but glad those who have the millennial take like Mr. Zapata are fighting the good fight.

[Anonymous No.6361162]

>>6361139
Gen Z are the doomers giving up on drawing because they’ve been mindcucked by AI

[Anonymous No.6361182]

>>6360375
>sane man: get better
>/ic/:NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
man this board is embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.6361188]

>>6361182
You didn't watch the video.

[Anonymous No.6361200]

>>6361188
Dont think anyone in this thread did
>it's not a black and white issue
>you can't stop it anyway so the best thing for (you) to do is to keep improving yourself

[Anonymous No.6361207]

>>6360382
>Being better than AI won't make a game company hire you
where did I say I wanted to work for a game company? Also most indie games will still use human art because half the indie game devs out their were founded by artists

[Anonymous No.6361209]

I'm not scared for myself.
Do you know how many artists are put off by that new technology? Why bother creating if the machine will do all the thinking for you?
This shit is engineered brain rot, it will stifle the creativity of millions of people. No unique styles, no creativity, no inspirational and ingenious problem-solving ideas, only an infinite amount of procedurally generated AI goyslop. The billion dollars tech giants peddling this trash are slipping into so many aspects of our lives they don't even want you to imagine things by yourself anymore. Is everyone really okay with this?
Bet you guys don't even care about that shit, /ic/ only cares about the technical side of things...

[Anonymous No.6361210]

>>6361209
>Why bother creating
>proceeds to list reasons

[Anonymous No.6361241]

>>6361207
Which is why the next step will be to replace gamedevs, movie makers, literally everyone in the creative industry including social media influencers
>>6361209
Pretty much this. Cant wait for the AI generated TikTok that analyses your personal data and spits out what you probably want without even giving you the option to change the things. People will stop sharing stuff over the internet, just endless amount of chatbots and contentbots to keep you entertained. And whenever something shit happens in the world, you wont know because the higherups will just make a rule that day to make the AI not report on that topic. With no human reporters there will be only AI reporters and corrupt governments ruling over the reporters. This is the end of creativity and end of human soul.

[Anonymous No.6361316]

>>6361014
he didn’t make it, he’s an art teacher

[Anonymous No.6361333]

>>6361090
so what's your stance on AI art and what are artists supposed to do? Will this affect the entertainment industry and how?

[Anonymous No.6361354]

>>6360375
based

[Anonymous No.6361370]

>>6361188
I don't need to, I'm too busy actually drawing.

[Anonymous No.6361374]

>>6361241
>Which is why the next step will be to replace gamedevs, movie makers, literally everyone in the creative industry including social media influencers
cute fantasy but this will never happen. An AI can copy things, not stop other people from making things.

[Anonymous No.6361414]

>>6361370
ok, so you just dropped your incorrect take because you were pretending to be retarded?

[Anonymous No.6361420]

>>6361316
How is having a steady income from art just based off your art skills not "making it" in art?

[Anonymous No.6361435]

There's a world of difference between making something that looks pretty and then making a very specific work.

The only ones who are in danger here are art-fags fishing for likes and upvotes on social media from generic art nobody actually wants. The rest of the artists will be fine.

[Anonymous No.6361438]

>>6361420
>drawing instruction manuals is making it because it’s paid
lol

[Anonymous No.6361507]

>>6361438
>teaching art for years, have done workshops all over
>worked with lots of different companies on different projects including coca cola
>gets to travel and attend events with his friends
>is part of superani
what's your definition of making it? getting (you)s on your shitposts?

[Anonymous No.6361510]

>>6361507
stop coping, pete

[Anonymous No.6361526]

>>6361507
>your artistic high point is “working for coca cola”
even michael “I was an inbetweener trainee at disney for one animation” mattesi isn’t this sad

[Anonymous No.6361528]

>>6361438
Please define "making it" then because I thought money and fame was a big part of it and he got both.

[Anonymous No.6361534]

Well, what can be done? I mean, you cannot ban the future right?

[Anonymous No.6361535]

>>6361528
>fame
>peter han
stonetoss is unfathomably more famous than he ever will be

[Anonymous No.6361537]

>>6361526
not sure why you singled that one thing out but the man draws what he wants and I'd love to travel with some art friends and just draw stuff together

[Anonymous No.6361540]

>>6361075
>Posthumanism is human extinction dumbass
THat's just what anon meant.
The future is bots talking to bots, bots prompting bots, bots advertising to bots.

[Anonymous No.6361542]

>>6361534
>Well, what can be done?
don't try to rely on porn commissions for a living? Don't be a graphic designer for a major corporation?
any other kind of art or illustration isn't going to be effected

[Anonymous No.6361547]

>>6361090
>>6361105
>AI doomposters are actually the AI shills!
top zozzle
do you have russian ancestry per chance?

[Anonymous No.6361548]

>>6361535
stone toss is more famous than like every good artist alive

[Anonymous No.6361550]

>>6361535
>guy begging on the street mocking a guy with a stable job who can support a family by saying he is not a multi-millionaire.
Seems a bit biased

[Anonymous No.6361552]

>>6361550
>retard projecting his failures to defend a failed literallywho on 4chan

[Anonymous No.6361557]

>>6361552
anon you are projecting

[Anonymous No.6361559]

>>6361557
>n-no u
oof

[Anonymous No.6361561]

>>6361090
>>6361105
This is quality schizo posting
You both are dense and should stop spreading lies lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UJuQ0Ma1L4
Steven in particular has been trying to get people to keep doing art for years, he's probably the only youtube artist with a personality beyond "being a professional"
If anything the real "mole" is the completely annonymous guy telling you that the only big person on your side is actually lying to you and there's no hope and you should just lay down and stop trying because no one will be on your side.

[Anonymous No.6361572]

>>6361548
shit, did shadman die?

[Anonymous No.6361574]

>>6360375
I appreciate his take, there is indeed enough room for all. But that doesn't mean it's not gonna shift the landscape, it will reduce employment opportunities for artists, no doubt about it.

[Anonymous No.6361582]

"Toastmodernism"

[Anonymous No.6361584]

>>6361534
Carry on as usual and shame anyone who does AI

[Anonymous No.6361593]

>>6361572
Anon... Reading comprehension reps

[Anonymous No.6361594]

>>6361593
>>>>>>>>>joke
>(You)

[Anonymous No.6361667]

I actually listened to what he had to say instead of going by what's written in the OP:

On one hand, his message is welcome in the sense that people should indeed focus on being the best version of themselves.

On the other hand, him comparing AI merging images together with the human's mind referencing and unconsciously processing images together in a 1:1 fashion is wrong. It's not the same thing at all and this is scary to see such a popular artist/teacher saying this in public.
Due to this, he seems to fail to grasp the extent of the damage AI can do from an ethical and legal standpoint, and how artists can end up getting the short end of the stick, basically contributing to this capitalistic society we live in.
As others pointed out, that he has already made it makes him hold a rather self-centered view on the general impact of AI and makes him overlook the negative ramifications it may have on aspiring artists or people looking to live/survive off doing art.

I'm not surprised to hear him speak as such since he is more interested in nurturing the present character in people than being consciously aware of developing trends through time.
We need his take in the grand scheme of things, but it's in itself no way an encompassing one either.

[Anonymous No.6361699]

>>6361561
>>6361547
>>6361090
You absolute schizos. Who are you fighting by drawing? Why would anybody want you to stop drawing for the sake of it? AI bros just dont give a fuck about you, thats all. They are not malicious, just cruel. Their plan was not to make you stop drawing, it was to devalue your work and make everyone artist if they pay their services. They will just keep improving their tech so that more investors will fund them, and then make better models to get even more funding while you are just an expense to them. They dont give a fuck if you draw or not, as long as their products get enough attention and customers.

[Anonymous No.6361711]

Have you guys seen what the new Midjourney model currently in beta can do? Impressive stuff.

[Anonymous No.6361718]

>>6361542
>porn commissions
Given the weird, parasocial relationship that fans develop with porn artists... I actually think they're at less risk of being obsoleted than your average artist.

[Anonymous No.6361810]

>>6361711
that's looks cool but you could already do stuff like that with the old model, just made picrel with SDv1.5

[Anonymous No.6361828]

>>6361699
>Their plan was not to make you stop drawing, it was to devalue your work and make everyone artist if they pay their services.
And us taking the bait, getting the poison of "you've been replaced, stop drawing now, nobody needs you anymore" will make it easier for them to make ai art the standard, the less good artists there are the more ai art is can be valued.
So yeah, it may not be their grand plan, but not drawing or looking to get better helps no one but them.

[Anonymous No.6361838]

>>6361711
jumbled garbage
a 13yo child can do a better collage than this

[Anonymous No.6361843]

>>6361711
>>6361810
Legit garbage, it would be very easy for me to say it on bad faith even if I thought they were actually ok, but my mind is at peace knowing how bad they are lmao

[Anonymous No.6361844]

>>6361810
Looks incoherent.

[Anonymous No.6361847]

>>6361828
I'd say the reason people are releasing models trained specifically on living artists is an effort to get them to stop drawing. That nignog who made the model based on Hollie Memgert's art sounded like he was absolutely coming from a place of contempt.

[Anonymous No.6361884]

>>6361699
you got btfo, shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.6361888]

>>6361843
personal opinion.
>>6361844
True, but it's kinda meant to be.

[Anonymous No.6361892]

>>6361699
>They are not malicious, just cruel
Some of these types are definitely malicious. The companies who developed this software can be said to be malicious just based on how they got the data for their models. The users may not all be malicious, but enough of them are that they pose a threat to artists, especially smaller ones. The example of making models based on living artists is enough of an indicator of malice, without having to dig through their messages and see how much open contempt they hold for the people that make their technology possible.

[Anonymous No.6362046]

>>6361843
>anytime anyone post an impressive example of anything
>it's shit
at least /ic/ and 4chan remains consistent, lmao

[Anonymous No.6362095]

>>6360375
absolute fucking smoothbrain take

[Anonymous No.6362150]

>>6361711
Midjurney was never really good, it was only good in the days of Dall-e mini, but compared to Stable Diffusion and Dall-e 2 its trash. But this picture actually looks alright. Like there are no major artefacts I can find and it is pretty high quality. But I agree its a jumbled mess. Rip surreal art, its never ever coming back with this thing coexisting on Earth.

[Anonymous No.6362173]

>>6361090
meds

[Anonymous No.6362231]

>>6360375
This art, it looks like he sketched clouds then drew animals over it.

[Anonymous No.6362310]

>JUST GIT GUD BRO
of course this enrages the permabegs here lmao

[Anonymous No.6362312]

>>6362310
kekekekekek

[Anonymous No.6362375]

>>6362310
you can’t get better than a machine that learns on an reproduces what you put out and can also do it at like 7000 times faster pace at virtually limitless instances
even if it needs 10000 tries to outmatch you, you lost forever

[Anonymous No.6362377]

>>6362375
So when is it going to outmatch me?

[Anonymous No.6362381]

>>6362377
>no work
it already did

[Anonymous No.6362424]

>>6361090
Finally, a thoughtful post made by a real human and not an "AI artisan" spamming bot.

They want us to lay down and take it because they're hoping, praying we do not unite and create a huge class action lawsuit to nuke them. Their whole model is built upon art thievery and the "AI art" generator is really just a fancy filter that chops up and splices art together.

Say a piece steals from 3 artists. It takes the background from one artist, the face from one art piece, and the body from another artist to create a "new" franksteined image. They really really want artists to be so demoralized they don't fight in court. The idea of those 3 artists uniting and coming after them and their business model terrifies them. They have no grounds to stand on.

[Anonymous No.6362481]

>>6361561
>the only big person on your side
No one is on your side. No one has ever been on your side. Stand up for yourself.

[Anonymous No.6362484]

>>6361711
Looks like something you'd see on a binder or hair metal album cover in 1985. In a bad way.

[Anonymous No.6362728]

>>6362173
Meds map, yes. I got it form anonfiles :)

>>6362424
Every reply to my post was GPT3 but this one takes the cake because it didn't even understand the essence of the post, just latched itsself to the buzzwords and created a reply. Remember that GPT3 can't understand anything below the surface of the sentence.

[Anonymous No.6363115]

The thought of a text ai shilling and shitposting in /ic/ is a hilarious and I hope it's true.

[Anonymous No.6363949]

>>6360986

who ask?

[Anonymous No.6363957]

>>6360375

Zapata himself says that he doesn't and won't have problem with the rise of AI generated art. The ones that will hurt the most are the struggling artist.

an established artist saying shit like "be better" probably don't give a shit or barely have any idea how AI operate.

[Anonymous No.6363978]

>>6363957
Yeah, I doubt most pros will be negatively impacted in a meaningful way, or really anybody with a "name" and/or a fanbase. Probably those who will be hurt the most are small time artists who do shit like illustrations via freelancing apps and making illustrations for local businesses. The unfortunate part is that is the kind of work which allows artists to grow and survive until they do make it in the industry. Not everybody can just be an eceleb to sustain their art, or survive on ridiculous coom art.

[Anonymous No.6363992]

>>6361542
Nigger, people who were already drawing porn or doing graphic design are doing fine. Graphic designers see AI can't do consistent drafts and concepts, and smut artists see that AI can't do different styles of both popular and esoteric franchises/characters. AI is a nuisance because of braindead platform flooding that leads to people's online portfolios getting ruined because their name was tagged in a prompt and new artists will get less exposure on platforms that didn't do anything to mitigate the spam.

[Anonymous No.6364034]

>>6360607
>when that guy complained about his grade for chainsaw man sculpt and came out with a total victory
sauce?

[Anonymous No.6364202]

>>6360375
>it doesn't take away my work
That's all you need to know about his stance on AI art he doesn't give a shit about it because he's an established illustrator and knows he'll make money either way, he enjoys this even more since he knows when AI becomes more mainstream his competition is going to dwindle. Typical Chink.

[Anonymous No.6364225]

>>6364202
good artists gets better, improves over time in all ways
and this here is yet another good artist telling you to do the same
and you're getting irrationally seething about it, because you realize you're not a good artist
better start flipping burgers lol

[Anonymous No.6364234]

>>6364225

Get better then get your work stolen and trained on.

Dumbfuck.

[Anonymous No.6364247]

>>6364225
He's talking about how the AI affects "him" obviously he wont worry since like I said he's an established artist already the worries are coming from the ones who wants to make art into a career, people who don't have a solid footing in the Industry. But that info is going to fly past you too since you're too busy sucking the dicks of your 'favorite artists".

[Anonymous No.6364250]

>>6360408
"lucky enough"

disregard a life time of training and pursuit and chop it up to luck. rofl. lmao.

[Anonymous No.6364256]

>>6362375
>submit prompt to an illustrator
>less than 10 minutes later I get back some weird looking collage of images with dead eyes and long fingers blending into the outfit of my character. everything else in the foreground is 8k with wide angle lens and god beams. the background is 4k and masterpiece. the overall composition is twisting into the gears of a pocket watch or something.
>ask for revision
>illustrator provides total different image that is even less like my initial prompt
>plus tip

[Anonymous No.6364276]

>>6360382
>cuckold malding because hes going to get laid off from moving triangles at actiblizzshit
make a better game than them.

[Anonymous No.6364286]

>>6360396
this is actually a decent counter arguement, but what is your alternative? the vast majority of people complaining about this would sooner strangle their tranny flag wearing baby in their crib, if they even have kids at all, than harm a single hair on the people responsible for our fake economy and continued servitude. At some point you have to decide if you're going to give up or not, if you don't give up, working harder is the only choice.

[Anonymous No.6364288]

>>6361139
>millenials fighting ai.
kek. no we aren't. we're a generation of underachievers finally getting a first taste at what its like to own a mass production factory.

[Anonymous No.6364307]

>>6360569
problem is AI can't come up with any new concepts

[Anonymous No.6364312]

>>6364307
>inb4 "b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but artists can't either! everything is derivative!!!!!!"

[Anonymous No.6364314]

>>6360607
AIfag thinks this tech is "toddler stage" when in fact it's decades old. One of the biggest intellectual property thefts is being committed as we speak, and all you can think of is how this decades old tech is revolutionary. Hilarious and kill yourself, you know nothing but speak as you do. Know your place already you pedo otaku faggot

[Anonymous No.6364317]

>>6361113
so why not hire shitty artists from the getgo that draw everything fast? Why are good artists being hired and accuracy and polishing matter today? Do you AI shills still not understand why this makes no sense?

[Anonymous No.6364327]

>>6364307
why do you think thats a problem for the tool to solve?
>>6364314
>retarded commies seeth the thread(s)
me, the chad retard lulcow thread enjoyer.jpg
>they start to unironically defend IP and call learning from other art IP theft
Okay no, Just kill yourself. Copywrite should have never EVER gone past 28 years. Nor should any artist, including (((you))), have to pay anyone to learn to draw like them. Go fuck yourself with a rusty chainsaw.

[Anonymous No.6364337]

>>6364327
the parasitic thief cries in pain as he strikes at you. IP is something commies seethe about all the time. They really hate private ownership of things, especially if that thing was made by the owner with his own hands

[Anonymous No.6364338]

>>6364327
>Nor should any artist, including (((you))), have to pay anyone to learn to draw like them
when AI can do it, and create an environment where you no longer have unique value by creating infinite works of "yours". you have lose a big incentive to come up with unique art styles in the first place (if you are trying to make a living with art)

[Anonymous No.6364346]

>>6364338
the irony of that faggot calling me a commie too. They don't understand what drives people to do things. This "democratization of art" as they like to call it is the equivalent of "everyone should be paid the same, janitors, teachers are the same, etc". Just painfully stupid and unaware beings. Incredibly low IQ scum unaware of the irony of everything they say

[Anonymous No.6364347]

>>6364327
>problem is AI can't come up with any new concepts
>why do you think thats a problem for the tool to solve?
it takes real human beans hundreds of hours to create and refine new concepts
how the fuck is a machine learning tool supposed to do that in its current form? all it can do is study already existing pictures and recreate them as they are.

[Anonymous No.6364355]

>>6364337
> IP is something commies seethe about all the time. They really hate private ownership of things, especially if that thing was made by the owner with his own hands
wrong retard. commies love IP. They love monopoly in general, and are always dreaming up ways to make it illegal for people to buy products that aren't their own while retaining total control of said product in order to prevent competition. The acceptance of IP and copywrite protection from these people is how you tell the real commies from the larping trannys and useful idiots.
>when AI can do it, and create an environment where you no longer have unique value by creating infinite works of "yours". you have lose a big incentive to come up with unique art styles in the first place (if you are trying to make a living with art)
so what? you are upset that you cant make a living drawing art, then kill the people responsible in the first place for stealing your money, note that it's not the AI creators retard, it's the fed. Oh but you wont do that, that would be anti semitic right? Alright well heres another more actionable solution then, Get a new job, just like you;'d have to if people stopped buying your art because you let the fed tax them into abject moneyless poverty, and just like hundreds of other automated industries had to. or you could just adapt. or do the style anyway. Anime exists because of a few specific artists style.

[Anonymous No.6364361]

>>6364347
>>why do you think thats a problem for the tool to solve?
>it takes real human beans hundreds of hours to create and refine new concepts
>how the fuck is a machine learning tool supposed to do that in its current form?
why do you think thats a problem for the tool to solve?

[Anonymous No.6364363]

>>6364355
American tier understanding of politics. economy and the world in general.

[Anonymous No.6364366]

>>6364355
what the fuck are you talking about retard? You don't understand copyright do you? Before we get to talk about this further, kindly inform yourself what copyright is. That megacorporations exploit it is undeniable, but how the fuck is that communism lmao. Do you think an individual has that much power? You absolute fucking retard

[Anonymous No.6364378]

>>6364363
>seething euro as usual
nothing to see here I guess.
>>6364366
>do you think an individual has that much power
Do you really think individuals don't have that much power?
Stupid question, you're probably one of those retards who thinks the 2020 election was the first rigged one. I'll just dumb it down into the broad strokes for you.
The less copywrite protection you have while still retaining maybe a generation of protection, the better, why? because creativity isn't magic you retard, its a developmental process that is created by consumption of media in your formative years. What goes in, does come out, and it comes out for free, buoying up brands with unfathomable amounts of referential works. It's really no different than milking a community like a cow. Not going to bother addressing anything else. Communism was conceived wholecloth from copying 19th century german capitalism's homework. if you don't understand how theyre related then you need to open a history book, not shitpost your way to knowledge.

[Anonymous No.6364379]

>>6364361
I mean I might be wrong but it's currently not real AI that can imagine new shapes or elements, it only works using pattern recognition and traces a vague link between different prompts and pictures. Like, imagine you want to ask the AI to create a cartoon cat character design for a comic. All the machine is gonna do is try to rip off Garfield and Tom&Jerry, because the dataset it was fed with equates cartoon cat character with already existing ones.

[Anonymous No.6364386]

>>6364379
This problem is solved with different datasets, but again, that's not really the point. The fact is far more basic, This tool is no different than a pen or a stencil, it's job is not to imagine shapes, that's the artists job.

[Anonymous No.6364390]

>>6364378

[Anonymous No.6364394]

>>6364355
>commies love IP.
do they??? every time I see someone seethe about copyright its either a third worlder or a tankie

[Anonymous No.6364412]

>>6364355
I think that art is valuable and we should support artists. My fear is that this AI technology and all the other distractions being developed for us will end up creating a reality where we are dependent on it for our happiness. I fear that one day we will live in a world where we worship our machines like gods and they rule over every part of our lives.

[Anonymous No.6364427]

>>6364355
>commies love IP.
yeah, commies love one of the foundations of contemporary capitalism, which true commie Ayn Rand defended in this book. lmao

[Anonymous No.6364445]

>>6364412
I dont fear that because I already know it's happened already. If you want to be sheltered from the worst effects of such a world, your only option is to buy land enough for a whole family to fit on, and live in concert with your ideals. And it's not programmers making that impossible.
>some cunt /lit/ worships born almost a century after marx and not even born in the century I specified.
you are reaching levels of esl and retard even further beyond.

[Anonymous No.6364446]

I dont fear that because I already know it's happened already. If you want to be sheltered from the worst effects of such a world, your only option is to buy land enough for a whole family to fit on, and live in concert with your ideals. And it's not programmers making that impossible.
>>6364427
>some cunt /lit/ worships born almost a century after marx and not even born in the century I specified.
you are reaching levels of esl and retard even further beyond.

[Anonymous No.6364448]

>>6364412
I dont fear that because I already know it's happened already. If you want to be sheltered from the worst effects of such a world, your only option is to buy land enough for a whole family to fit on, and live in concert with your ideals. And it's not programmers making that impossible.
>>6364427
>some cunt /lit/ worships born almost a century after marx and not even born in the century I specified.
you are reaching levels of esl and retard even further beyond.

[Anonymous No.6364453]

>>6364427
you don't get it.
the left loves anything i don't like, and the more i hate it, the more they love it! (apply the same to any minority as well while we're at it)

[Anonymous No.6364457]

>>6360375
>So the comment I have for people is:
>Get better and on top of all keep buying my courses "please"
>Don't worry haha you will uhm become a concept artist at Blizzard one day just buy the courses and practice uhm, get better yes!

[Anonymous No.6364499]

>>6364307
That's why it has a hooman that tells it what to generate, genius.

[Anonymous No.6364502]

>>6364448
you obviously have a beyond retarded understanding of ideology. Stick to /pol tier memes moron.

Also your writing is pretty dogshit, don't ESL people when you sound like a waterhead.

[Anonymous No.6364512]

>>6364502
reading comprehension is fundamental to writing anon, your lack of it isn't going to make me appear more esl, but it is ironic that you retards have gone from going akshully you cant just say esl if he makes a typo to "once I find the perfect soijack to call you for your typo, it's over.jpg"

[Anonymous No.6364539]

>>6364457
The idea that this AI can be used to replace concept artists is kind of ridiculous to anyone who knows how involved many people usually are in that process. They need someone who can crank out lots of variations on very specific ideas, some which then need to be modelled into 3D assets so the perspective also need to be crisp. There's not room for half assing it.

It also doesn't replace artists who do comics.

[Anonymous No.6364552]

>>6364539

The problem is not whether AI is better than actual artist or if artist will get replace by AI.

The problem is the data it's being trained on without the consent of the artist. And the ease of average fucktards to input your work into the AI.

THAT is the fucking problem here.

[Anonymous No.6364562]

>>6364552
I mean, it's already been done. I've been usin img2img in my pipeline with sketches and put out commissions way faster now. There's nothing going to happen retroactively and artists should just adopt AI going forward to stay competitive

[Anonymous No.6364563]

>>6364539
You can have one gook selecting and painting over AI output instead of 10 gooks shitting out concept "art" it's absolutely exquisite

[Anonymous No.6364565]

>>6364552
No it isn't nig nog. Nobody needs permission to look at art or draw art similar to it. Every artist does this. I'm sure you are just salivating at the idea of being able to charge struggling artists for every sonic OC and fursona based on fucking robin hood but only commie retards would ever fall for b8 that obvious.

[Anonymous No.6364568]

>>6364552
Okay but that doesn't really have anything to do with the post I replied to. There is still going to be a need for concept artists at Blizzard and other game companies. So there will still be a need for some to learn how to draw.

>>6364563
At the end of the day they still only pay one artist.

[Anonymous No.6364572]

>>6364562
> I've been usin img2img in my pipeline with sketches and put out commissions way faster now.

[Anonymous No.6364574]

>>6364562
Anything you can do with img2img right now can just as easily be done by chinks and somalians using only txt2img.
Doesn’t matter if it’s “only” 95% as good as what you get with AI + manual touchups, normies don’t give a shit about mangled hands or an eye that’s slightly crooked.
There is no “staying competitive” in the AI world. You either do something that the AI cannot do at all, or you are obsolete. Enjoy the ride while it lasts, because eventually this software will be so cheap and easy to use that people won’t need you as a middleman for their anime pinups.

[Anonymous No.6364582]

>>6364572
>>6364574
I don't know if you're aware but people are literally paying for people's prompts and the source images being fed to the AI system. There's still way to be creative and make commissions from all this. Sure, you can text to img and AI image but image to image will always be superior. It gets the artists concept out and then the AI does all the heavy lifting of rendering. AI has literally freed creative minds to be creative without the gatekeeping of talent behind it. Rendering images was always so boring for me. I only did it to make the piece look good

[Anonymous No.6364583]

>>6364582
>without the gatekeeping of talent
holy fuck there it is

[Anonymous No.6364591]

>fucking artists gatekeeping hard work and reading loomis!!

[Anonymous No.6364598]

>>6364565

An artist does it like a trained human artist. They don't look at 1000 different art to make something.

Human experience, thoughts and emotion plays a big part in creating good art. it is not the same as a fucking AI that churns out something vaguely close to your fucking prompt.

[Anonymous No.6364599]

>>6364591
>>6364583
Kek

[Anonymous No.6364601]

>>6364562

Adopting AI? Do what you want. But there's still need to be a regulation regarding its usage.

[Anonymous No.6364603]

>>6364601
>I NEED MORE DADDY GOVERNMENT TELLING EVERYONE WHAT TO DO!!
why are commies always like this??

[Anonymous No.6364607]

>>6364601
why does there need to be regulation? It's just a tool and hopefully it replaces a lot junior level artists. It would be mean cheaper products for the consumer. It's win/win/win. It would encourage artists to work harder to be a professional level artist that can edit the AI's work.

[Anonymous No.6364609]

>>6364598
>An artist does it like a trained human artist. They don't look at 1000 different art to make something.
yes you do retard. you look at stuff all the time. if you can't look at stuff its almost impossible to make any kind of visual art.

[Anonymous No.6364613]

>>6364583
>>6364599
>pictured, two jacked nogs about to be buck broken with their hammers in their hands.

[Anonymous No.6364614]

>>6364609
When was the last time the AI observed anything that wasn't artwork?

[Anonymous No.6364616]

>>6364603
theyre literally children who don't care what happens as long as they get their way, and spite is their only motivator.
>>6364614
do you even understand what dale-2 is?

[Anonymous No.6364620]

>>6364616
>theyre literally children who don't care what happens as long as they get their way, and spite is their only motivator.
Sounds like you are describing the faggots who gleefully watch as pro's art pieces gets used without their permission to copy their style for profit.

[Anonymous No.6364622]

>>6364582
>freed creative minds to be creative without the gatekeeping of talent behind it
The pomposity of "ideas guys" never fails to amuse.

[Anonymous No.6364624]

lazy AIniggers keep lacking self-awareness, it's fascinating
probably actual autism at work

[Anonymous No.6364626]

>>6364622
'idea guys' never want to put in the work. It is mostly an excuse a superior in the workplace use to take credit for other people's work.

[Anonymous No.6364632]

>>6360375
>Based
Considering the AI will just become as good as him and (You) the more art of that level it consumes, I'd say he's just a dumbass. Feed his art to the AI continuously and there won't be enough of a difference for it to matter to the normal consumer.

[Anonymous No.6364633]

The main reason why ai will never surpass real artists is that ai will always be limited by prompts, and prompts are made with words and text. The whole point of visual art is that it transcends the written word. After all: if the artwork could be depicted with words then authors would have put us out of business long ago.
ai does not have an imagination. It’s only a series of equations.
It will always be limited by this fundamental quality.

[Anonymous No.6364636]

>>6360396
>doesn't know the human brain leverages quantum mechanics to perform calculations and generate creativity

AI can only hope achieve such perfection, HUMANITY FOREVER!!

[Anonymous No.6364637]

>>6364620
wow you mean like that pro did, and the pro before him and the pro before him, and the pro before him, and the pro before him? it's almost like every artist learned to draw from other artists and real life,

[Anonymous No.6364638]

>>6364624
>>6364622
>>6364626
>idea guys are bad and coping
>But we need to regulate ai guys right away!
so which is it?

[Anonymous No.6364640]

>>6364638
People don't want to regulate "idea guys" you stupid motherfucker, people want to regulate the FUCKING PROGRAM THAT IS STEALING FROM PEOPLE. What the fuck is wrong with you? Are the cancer chemicals in the world's rainwater eroding your IQ?

[Anonymous No.6364641]

Regulate art? Didn't the Nazis and Commies try that?

[Anonymous No.6364642]

>>6364641
More room-temp posting, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.6364646]

>>6364637
AI isn't even in the realm of comparability to how humans learn and interpret the world any techfag that thinks it does is a popsci retard or lying trying to equate an artist learning to an ai black box photobasher is similarly retarded kys

[Anonymous No.6364647]

>>6364637
>Using a photo of other people's art is the same as an artist learning and getting inspired by an art piece.
Such a noob take on reality and law

[Anonymous No.6364651]

[Anonymous No.6364653]

>>6364638
i mean, why wouldn't we want to regulate ai? art theft aside, people have been using imagen ai to generate cp and other illegal material. stuff like deepfakes can massively pollute the internet with fake and misleading material that would be impossible to prove false. if the internet gets flooded with ai generated fake shit that's impossible to differentiate from real shit then what kind of value does it have?

[Anonymous No.6364654]

>>6364638
>Takes 3 different people and try to pretend they all are arguing the same point just to make it sound like they contradict themselves.

[Anonymous No.6364658]

>>6364638
Acceleration is the correct answer.
ai should be promoted to the public as much as possible to show how trash it is. the more people are dazzled by the glitter, the harder they will crash once the rush wares off. People will see how shallow and limited ai really is, and real artists will be in higher demand.
Ai also has an effect of flushing out trash artists, those who draw digital cartoon characters floating in a void for example. Furry artists for example are losing business.

[Anonymous No.6364673]

>>6364646
AI bros think each person's individual cognitive process and the unique factors that lead towards their formation can be compared to the randomized noise outputs of image generators.

Is there a term for this, replacing with obscurity those things which you don't or cannot understand?

[Anonymous No.6364689]

>>6361076

So naive.
There's a popular streamer I watch that's already on the verge of using AI art for their content. The AI art that gets posted to his sub is already better than 98% of the fan-created illustrations posted there over the years. Which means that most fan-generated illustrations are already going to be eclipsed by people using AI.

See https://i.imgur.com/z2wcwu0.jpg
and https://i.imgur.com/z2wcwu0.png

I'm fairly confident that the new sub banner's drawing was AI but I could be wrong. Wouldn't be surprised if he used AI for his next merch run.

You have no fucking clue. It's getting bad quickly anon.

[Anonymous No.6364704]

>>6364689
Holy shit those are considered good by normies, I should forget fundies and just focus on rendering

[Anonymous No.6364706]

>>6361076 #

So naive.
There's a popular streamer I watch that's seemingly on the verge of using AI art for their content. The AI art that gets posted to his sub is already better than 98% of the fan-created illustrations posted there over the years. Which means that most fan-generated illustrations are already being made redundant by people using AI.

See https://i.imgur.com/z2wcwu0.jpg

I'm fairly confident that the new sub banner's drawing was AI but I could be wrong. Wouldn't be surprised if he used AI for his next merch run.

You have no fucking clue. It's getting bad quickly anon.

[Anonymous No.6364707]

>>6364673
>Is there a term for this, replacing with obscurity those things which you don't or cannot understand?
Religion?

[Anonymous No.6364713]

>>6364647
its not a photo you retard, its a drawing.
>>6364673
>>6364646
>retarded npcs think they aren't animals and are in fact speshul snowflakes
no wonder artists are the worst people. No, you do not learn in a different way than AI at all, that's why AI is cranking out images comparable to humans work and why you are seething. if there was a difference, you would ignore ai as a joke novelty beneath your notice.
>>6364707
right, thats correct, the people who suggest machines can do what humans can are all religious nuts, only clearly you faggots wont stop seething about it so why is it that I can safely ignore homeopathic retards but you faggots start screeching the moment I walk into an art store without a mask?

[Anonymous No.6364718]

>>6364704
deleted before the archives could grab it, what was it?
>>6364658
good luck corralling and tard wrangling all the bunker trannies and furry commission artists into doing so. They're going to try to form a beurocracy around the process and litigate their way through like usual.

[Anonymous No.6364719]

>>6364713
>No, you do not learn in a different way than AI at all
> the people who suggest machines can do what humans can are all religious nuts
ERROR ERROR. DOES NOT COMPUTE.

[Anonymous No.6364721]

>>6364719
>>6364706
the duality of man

[Anonymous No.6364730]

>>6364689
>people using ai to make merch
One nameless low-skill artist in a sea of similar artists lost a job.
Ai quantity-based art taking over human quantity-based artists. That’s what humans deserve for stacking their skills on low-quality endeavors

[Anonymous No.6364732]

>>6364653
>i mean, why wouldn't we want to regulate ai? art theft aside, people have been using imagen ai to generate cp and other illegal material. stuff like deepfakes can massively pollute the internet with fake and misleading material that would be impossible to prove false
oh yeah, I'm just sweating bullets at the possibility that the trust network based on sin and degeneracy is about to collapse. wowee, what a disaster, imagine if you couldn't trust someone to behave because it would be easy to dismiss images getting released as phoney. Why, if that happened whole underground mafias could collapse over night. I hope you are ready for it schlomo-kun

[Anonymous No.6364734]

>>6364713
>The AI drew this
>Retard who thinks the world only got digital art
You are an idiot but because you are so dumb I feel like I need to help you out a bit. It is not different than if I took a photo of (Random art you may know) Mona Lisa, I then threw a few Photoshop filters on and warped it a bit. Then I tried to pass it off as my own even when everything that makes that art piece good was made by someone else.

[Anonymous No.6364736]

>>6360375
Most artists are taking this arrogant and passive posture, just look around, most of them say that they don’t care about AI.

I grinded for years as an artist, but seeing this kind of stance makes me really hate these artists and hope they get replaced by a machine. I mean, instead of defending fellow artists and talking about the meaning of actually making art (differently than generating art), they just seem to use this to boost their ego.

Everyone can learn how to draw and paint decently, we shouldn’t need a program to make it more “democratic”

[Anonymous No.6364738]

>>6364713
>, you do not learn in a different way than AI at all
can you feed AI Loomis and get figure drawings out?

[Anonymous No.6364740]

>>6364734
>Retard who thinks there aren't robots that paint
its largely irrelevant cost to performance wise in that scenario but yes they can paint too.
>it's just some fucking filters
it's objectively not any more of a filter than your brain is a filter of compressed ideas of all the mona lisas and meat space things you've seen.

[Anonymous No.6364743]

>>6364738
can you feed a human nothing but loomis and get figure drawings out? of fucking course not. they grew up for at least a decade of input before that. most likely at least 2.

[Anonymous No.6364744]

>>6364713
>No, you do not learn in a different way than AI at all, that's why AI is cranking out images comparable to humans work and why you are seething. if there was a difference, you would ignore ai as a joke novelty beneath your notice.

[Anonymous No.6364750]

>>6364743
How many million of images did artist of picrel analyse?

[Anonymous No.6364753]

>>6364740
>it's objectively not any more of a filter than your brain is a filter
Neural nets are typically trained by “supervised learning”. So they’re presented with many examples of an input and the desired output, and then gradually the connection weights are adjusted until the network “learns” to produce the desired output.
To learn a language task, a neural net may be presented with a sentence one word at a time, and will slowly learns to predict the next word in the sequence.
This is very different from how humans typically learn. Most human learning is “unsupervised”, which means we’re not explicitly told what the “right” response is for a given stimulus. We have to work this out ourselves.

[Anonymous No.6364757]

>>6364744
>retard doesn't understand models have weights which is the stand in for emotions and arbitrary values on things which it observes
>still just seeths that it observes and retains data better than you.
>it's still compressed understanding and you cannot get it to dump the art in it's model.
retard.
>>6364750
probably about this many, retard.
4.312e+8
even more if you count dreaming.

[Anonymous No.6364758]

>>6364740
Why don't you go on the highwany and try to fuck a car if you love machines so much dude

[Anonymous No.6364759]

>>6364740
>Robots paint
Wtf does that have to do with you sperging out over me calling it a photo. The AI use photos of art from museums too and you clearly didn't know and ended up looking dumb.

>incoherent sperging
It sounds like you don't know what we are talking about and just lash out randomly.

Companies normally make a big deal out of not using art assets they don't own. Do you think the ones who made this AI program is a big company doing it for profit?

This is like arguing with a kid

[Anonymous No.6364760]

>>6364753
>Neural nets are typically trained by “supervised learning”. So they’re presented with many examples of an input and the desired output, and then gradually the connection weights are adjusted until the network “learns” to produce the desired output.
yes retard, I had that too, it was called art class.
and before that, the approval of my parents.
>To learn a language task, a neural net may be presented with a sentence one word at a time, and will slowly learns to predict the next word in the sequence.
yes, humans do this too, it's called speed reading.
>This is very different from how humans typically learn. Most human learning is “unsupervised”, which means we’re not explicitly told what the “right” response is for a given stimulus. We have to work this out ourselves.
no it isn't, and you're so wrong any child should be taken from you at birth.

[Anonymous No.6364761]

>>6364732
What kind of fucking schizo rambling is this
Is someone asking an AI to post itt

[Anonymous No.6364762]

>>6364757
>weights which is the stand in for emotions and arbitrary values on things which it observes
Exactly. You're replacing human individuality with arbitrary code and claim it's the same thing as human expression. As per >>6364707 you and your kin are not researchers, you people are cultists.

[Anonymous No.6364763]

>>6364713
> people. No, you do not learn in a different way than AI at all
Is that why AI can achieve a pro level render at the same time can’t understand a normal human got 4 limbs and 5 fingers on each hand?

Machines don’t learn like us, they are a million times better at remembering everything they saw and using it precisely as they were told to, yet, it’s all just labeled pixels, AI doesn’t know what it’s doing, it’s just following the algorithm, that’s why ridiculous mistakes happen.

With enough data, each for every single possible subject and angle, then the AI would be able to those silly mistakes, not by actually understanding what it’s doing, but by having lots of references for each possible prompt. It’s the ultimate symbol drawing machine.

[Anonymous No.6364765]

>>6364759
>retard is so wrong he has to use a fantasy he concoted to say I look dumb
both you and i know what the mona lisa is and looks like retard, there's no difference for the AI, stop inventing copium bullshit I never said so you can knock down your strawman and feel an ounce of satisfaction.
>incoherent sperging
you're the sperg here, you lash out at ideas that threaten you completely unaware of the reality you inhabit.
>companies normally don't make a big deal out of not using assets they don't own.
what the fuck are you talking about? people are constantly seething at jewgle and other privacy invalidating companies before your generation decided it was water and you where fish. Whatever the corporation wants, goes.
>Do you think the ones who made this AI program is a big company doing it for profit?
Imagine being so stupid you think this is an arguement. do you think cel shading is ever coming back asshole? there are lots of things you niggers used to do that where better and where dropped for economic reasons but you didn't throw a shit fit then, even when conditions for work where arguably worse.
>it's like arguing with a kid
arguing with you is legitimately making me stupider for having read any retarded shit you write.

[Anonymous No.6364766]

>>6364761
>he thinks people ITT don't know
sweat harder schlomo.
>>6364762
it is the same thing as human learning retard. Never said expression. The expression comes from the person who is prompting.

[Anonymous No.6364768]

>>6364763
>Is that why AI can achieve a pro level render at the same time can’t understand a normal human got 4 limbs and 5 fingers on each hand?
thats why the aforementioned real life photos are barely enough to keep up, no matter what you retards seeth about, AI only has visual data to go on, not taste, touch, hearing, or feeling. It can only see, read, and draw. It's no different than you, terminally online faggot, just with a worse childhood.

[Anonymous No.6364769]

>>6364757
and how many of those are other people's work? why don't you feed your dreams into your AI if they learn the same way?

[Anonymous No.6364772]

>antihumanist technophile is an elainafag
despicable, even the anime girls you post are sociopaths!

[Anonymous No.6364773]

>>6364769
>anon is so tilted hes asking me why I don't take pictures of my dreams to give to the AI.
I would be taking tons of pictures if I could, and so would you, and there would definately be people making a dream algorithm where it possible.
>how many of those are other peoples work
depends on your religion.

[Anonymous No.6364774]

>>6364766
>The expression comes from the person who is prompting.
as much as making yourself penisless turns you into a woman.

[Anonymous No.6364775]

>>6364760
I literally just copy pasted a neuroscientist's words, you dense mother fucker.

[Anonymous No.6364776]

>>6364772
I'm painfully unsociopathic actually, I'm just not an emotionally stunted bunker troon who wants to legislate humanity away. They lack the capacity to understand it is not the machine that is being cruel to them so they seek to limit it and by extension, me and the people I love.

[Anonymous No.6364778]

>>6364765
>spergs out even harder

>Whatever the corporation wants, goes.
Right. All those other companies just didn't want to profit of other people's work. Such nice people. Retard

>there are lots of things you niggers used to do that where better and where dropped for economic reasons
Completely irrelevant to what we were talking about

[Anonymous No.6364779]

>>6364776
one of the major characteristics of the anti-christ is fooling people that he's the real savior.

[Anonymous No.6364780]

>>6364773
>ignores the question where it points out the difference between human and AI learning

[Anonymous No.6364782]

>>6364775
good for him, he should have gotten an F, but we live in a world where scientists can't reproduce 70% of their studies because it's all funded by corporations and elite political groups with an agenda. Meanwhile, people with divergent scientific ideas are publically villified and destroyed by the very community that claims to be accepting of new ideas.

SURPRISE no, they never were, and if you actually gave a single fuck about science, you would already know the needle is always moved forward by radicals that get exprocreated by this community, and then only posthumously exhonerated by "Science" tm (paid for by your tax dollars) when theres no danger of the wrong person getting any credit or money.

[Anonymous No.6364783]

>>6364732
point was, if a new piece of tech can be used for nefarious purposes, does that not signal that it should have some sort of regulations surrounding it?
for the communities, most will certainly benefit more than they loose. cp director isn't anyone's day job and i doubt people who are looking for cp care if their cp is real or not. if anything, they're probably thankful. imagen is a boon for those communities, now they can make endless amounts of what they want and don't even have to risk themselves kidnapping children into their rape dungeons!

[Anonymous No.6364785]

>>6364778
>All those other companies just didn't want to profit of other people's work.
you dont have an exclusive right to a visual identity nig nog, you cannot copywrite anime, you cannot copywrite cartoon ponies, you cannot copywrite anything you draw except the things themselves. It's learning, not plagiarism. fucking furniggers thinking the mouse isn't going to push for this kind of regulation from the inside of every community online.

[Anonymous No.6364786]

>>6364780
>points out no difference
>gets mad when I answer honestly
retard.

[Anonymous No.6364787]

>>6364785
>you cannot copywrite anime, you cannot copywrite cartoon ponies, you cannot copywrite anything you draw except the things themselves
what did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.6364788]

>>6364782
How the fuck can you teach a child to speak with words, you can't explain speaking to a child who can't speak. You took "unsupervised" as literal adult supervision.

[Anonymous No.6364791]

>>6364787
you will own nothing, you will express nothing, you will live connected to the Dajjal network and be happy

[Anonymous No.6364792]

>>6364788
*my phasing could be better, I mean teach it with an explanation.

[Anonymous No.6364794]

>>6364783
>n-no anon you don't understand you need to hate the idea of my black mail going away!
the lack of that technology is already being used for purposes so nefarious that No, it would actually be the most immoral thing imaginable to regulate this. I truly cant wait for the day that the modern super kings strings get cut like a terminal case of MS and the secret empires they built based on debauchery crumble around them.

[Anonymous No.6364795]

>>6364782
>Meanwhile, people with divergent scientific ideas are publically villified and destroyed by the very community that claims to be accepting of new ideas.
Most of the time its because these divergent ideas don't hold up under scrutiny.

[Anonymous No.6364796]

>>6364788
>how the fuck can you teach a child to speak words
you have to be fucking emotionally stunted anon. How fucking isolated are you that you don't even have a living memory of anyone being encouraged to talk as an infant?

[Anonymous No.6364798]

>>6364794
lol this nigga seriously thinks img2imging news reels will seriously kill governments instead of empower governments to fuck citizens even further

[Anonymous No.6364799]

>>6364791
t. seething schlomo mad he cant copywrite anything that looks even vaguely like BRAND tm

[Anonymous No.6364801]

>>6364794
>the lack of that technology is already being used for purposes so nefarious
the fuck are you on about

[Anonymous No.6364802]

>>6364795
They also very often turn to politics and turn whatever they try to peddle into a culture war to try and distract people from their bullshit not holding up to rigorous scrutiny

[Anonymous No.6364803]

>>6364796
I knew you would do this. read >>6364792

[Anonymous No.6364804]

>>6364785
>muh visual identity
The day we can't fucking recognize the original art in an instant and pretty much all the value comes from that original art then you can talk about your visual identity. Until then it is just lazy profiting off of other people's finished products.

And yes, you are allowed to personally draw in that style but a computer program isn't allowed to use the original manipulated art piece without permission from the owner. This isn't a trick question. It's law.

[Anonymous No.6364805]

>>6364786
Humans can make art without other peoples work, AI can't.
I'm not tilted or mad btw, stop projecting

[Anonymous No.6364807]

>>6364795
>Most of the time its because these divergent ideas don't hold up under scrutiny.
wrong. Almost all of the basic assumptions do not hold up to scrutiny. Recorded as early as the fucking plucked chicken man. they are only then plagiarized at a later time when its convenient and no one alive will lose anything and no opponents will gain anything.

[Anonymous No.6364810]

>>6364804
>manipulated
unmanipulated

[Anonymous No.6364811]

>>6364798
oh retard, you think the government even exists? that shit is a puppet show. the real damage is going to be way deeper.

[Anonymous No.6364813]

>>6364799
t. walking shell full of oxymorons acting out the role of useful idiot for the people he thinks he fights against

[Anonymous No.6364815]

>>6364803
try teaching a baby with an explanation and see how far you get retard.

>>6364804
>the day we can't recognize the visual identity of art and the value it comes from
you mean like how oceans of nips piggybacked off of western art, and then, oceans of similar nips piggybacked off of successful nip art, and now oceans of westerners and changs are piggybacking off of even more art? Already happens anon. that's how we got from the 60s to here.

[Anonymous No.6364817]

>>6364805
>Humans can make art without other peoples work, AI can't.
Yes it can.

[Anonymous No.6364818]

>>6364815
>try teaching a baby with an explanation and see how far you get retard.
That was literally my point.

[Anonymous No.6364819]

>>6364807
>Almost all of the basic assumptions do not hold up to scrutiny.
are you even reading the shit you post
quoting diogenes doesn't make the inane ramblings you're typing any more intelligent
take your fucking meds and touch grass you lunatic

[Anonymous No.6364821]

>>6364811
resorting to semantics makes you a boring conversation partner
then again maybe derailing the whole argument was your point since the very beginning, so kudos on that

[Anonymous No.6364823]

>>6364813
nice description of yourself you wrote there anon.
>>6364818
then congratulations anon, you played yourself.
>>6364819
>t-touch grass
the last resort of the mastodon groomer.,

[Anonymous No.6364826]

>>6364815
Do you understand the difference between you make fan art commissions or disneys work and then disney taking your work and profiting big time from it without your permission?

[Anonymous No.6364827]

>>6364776
>I'm painfully unsociopathic
We are expected to believe a normal human typed these words
>legislate humanity away
KEK you have completely lost touch with reality aifags are actually subhuman crazy

[Anonymous No.6364828]

>>6364826
No, I genuinely don't understand the difference. This is assuming you meant of instead of or.
If not then your post is basically incoherent.

[Anonymous No.6364829]

>>6364598
>An artist does it like a trained human artist. They don't look at 1000 different art to make something.

Desu, you've never seen a professional make something, have you?

[Anonymous No.6364830]

Your days are over, I can just take your art, train my AI on it and pop hundreds of it over 1 night while I sleep.

[Anonymous No.6364832]

>>6364817
proof next thread?

[Anonymous No.6364833]

>>6364827
>no more arguments, just reasserting their rhetoric
here let me make you feel like you won
>and then everyone clapped.
good job anon, you did it.

[Anonymous No.6364834]

>>6360375
I feel most people failed to understand what Zapata meant with his rant on AI.

[Anonymous No.6364836]

>>6364817
why are you like this? going on the internet to spread lies?

[Anonymous No.6364837]

>>6364827
>aifags are actually subhuman crazy
Pretty sure this one is just an underagefag

[Anonymous No.6364838]

>>6364830
Accelerate the process. We will either wake up and fight back or perish for good this time.

[Anonymous No.6364840]

>>6364832
Sorry anon, you'll have to go look at someone elses example, I can barely afford to eat, let alone pay for a graphics card, but tell you what, if you order me one I'll make the proof myself. Not that I expect you to even acknowledge the hundreds of examples that are already floating around if you really wanted them.

[Anonymous No.6364843]

>>6364833
Anon I know you're parents coddled the fuck out of your warped mind but word salad isn't an argument and any assertions you made are on their face ridiculous and fall to shit if you give them even a second of thought take your meds

[Anonymous No.6364844]

>>6364836
>he says, posting art that was made from other peoples who saw similar art.

[Anonymous No.6364845]

>>6364828
So you are too stupid to figure out on your own if "or" was a type" meant to be "of"?
Or are you so stupid that you think you cleverly dodged the question?

I hope I am respecting your identity as a stupid person here.

[Anonymous No.6364848]

>>6364823
>then congratulations anon, you played yourself.
No. You did. Watch.

Neuroscientist, Humans learn "unsupervised".
which means we’re not EXPLICITLY told what the “right” response is
>no it isn't, and you're so wrong any child should be taken from you at birth.
How the fuck can you teach a child to speak with an *explanation. (The EXPLICIT aspect)
>try teaching a baby with an explanation and see how far you get retard.
That was literally my point.
>then congratulations anon, you played yourself.

Embarrassing for you anon.

[Anonymous No.6364849]

>>6364837
Just your average chanverse sociopath who went from being a national socialist pedophile into a full-on NRx misanthrope.

[Anonymous No.6364852]

>>6364843
your inability to read basic english isn't my problem rasheem.
>>6364845
>makes another typo
>no actual answer
>just more seething.
gonna assume not then. Since you made a point of it I have to assume you are typing bad on purpose and are merely posting non sequitors to b8

[Anonymous No.6364854]

>>6364844
You just said that AI can make art without other peoples work? Hello? Can you not forget that every single current AI operates on datasets of human made pictures?

[Anonymous No.6364864]

Have you noticed that these threads become more active at the same everyday? Almost as if it's a single person that keeps bumping them.
Really makes you think doesn't it?

[Anonymous No.6364865]

>>6364854
>ph..ph..photos aren't art! AI could use just photos to make art.

[Anonymous No.6364867]

>>6364848
>Neuroscientist, Humans learn "unsupervised".
they don't
>which means we’re not EXPLICITLY told what the “right” response is
we are
>How the fuck can you teach a child to speak with an *explanation. (The EXPLICIT aspect)
you can't.
>That was literally my point.
your point is bullshit, you cant have a conversation with a baby, that doesn't mean the baby does not receive concrete results on it's actions.

>Embarrassing for you anon.
yeah I'm so emberassed on this anonymous detroit beat boxing forum.
>>>/reddit/

[Anonymous No.6364869]

>>6364744
>artificial intelligence.jpg
We need more of this.

[Anonymous No.6364871]

>>6364852
>>makes another typo

[Anonymous No.6364873]

>>6364854
>AI operates on datasets of human made pictures
No reason you can't make a database using computer generated art.

[Anonymous No.6364874]

>>6364852
>no actual answer
Answer for wha? You were just crying about not understanding the post because of "or".

>gonna assume
Don't. You have already made too much of an ass out of yourself already

[Anonymous No.6364875]

>>6364854
by this logic can you not forget that every single thought running through your head is the result of a tiny fish developing a neural node to remember where they swam from to spawn again?

[Anonymous No.6364879]

>>6364873
Sure, try it and see how far AI inbreeding gets you bro

[Anonymous No.6364880]

>>6364864
>clearly everyone is bumping the thread
>blames me
striking out as you cry in pain I see.

[Anonymous No.6364881]

>>6364864
>Almost as if it's a single person that keeps bumping them
Jannies are probably generating half the threads. Get paid by volume. Controversy generates volume. Rinse. Repeat.

[Anonymous No.6364883]

>>6364864
I have noticed this. I should be sleeping right now but watching AIfags make fools of themselves is releasing dopamine into my brain.

[Anonymous No.6364884]

>>6364864
>Have you noticed that these threads become more active at the same everyday?
Another fun observation: if you sort by latest posts instead of bump order you can notice new posts in AI threads getting made even in threads that reach bump limits, at the same time as other AI threads are getting bumped.

[Anonymous No.6364885]

>>6364865
>>6364875
schizo hours? schizo hours

[Anonymous No.6364886]

>>6364880
Its broken :(

[Anonymous No.6364888]

>>6364875
We don't even know why we yawn, but this nigga thinks he knows how the brain works.

[Anonymous No.6364889]

>>6364874
>Answer for wha? You were just crying about not understanding the post because of "or".
No, I just dont see the point in trying to figure out what you meant by your nonsensical post anon.
>pulling the assume =ass + u
>purposefully leave out the me
man, you sure aren't mad alright.

[Anonymous No.6364893]

>>6364886
>back to just seething without substance
sasuga jews
>>6364885
I'd rather be a schizo than a commie psychopath.

[Anonymous No.6364895]

>>6364893
You have to be 18 to post on this website.

[Anonymous No.6364896]

>I'd rather be a schizo than a commie psychopath.
peak horseshoe

[Anonymous No.6364897]

>>6364888
>Yawning is associated with some hormones that are released that briefly increase the heart rate and alertness. So actually the reason that one yawns when tired or bored is the body’s attempt to keep you alert and awake — if only for a brief time.
wake up basketballist.

[Anonymous No.6364900]

>>6364889
>pretends a post is nonsensical because of a typo after already telling that the correct spelling is.
You are the type who are just dumb enough to not realize they are not smart.

[Anonymous No.6364902]

>>6364895
I've been on this site probably longer than you've been alive.

[Anonymous No.6364903]

>>6364900
>explicitly doesn't tell what the correct spelling is
>makes a huge point about it
>makes up another boring narrative to console the cognitive dissonance demon screaming in his head
and you retards call me the schizo.

[Anonymous No.6364904]

>>6364897
>basketballist
Chomu ne v okopah, pidorashka?

[Anonymous No.6364905]

>>6364840
just use someone else's work, you guys have no qualms about that right? or at least point me in the direction

[Anonymous No.6364906]

>>6364897
There are a lot of theories about yawning but we have no clue of why the body does it.

[Anonymous No.6364908]

>>6364903
Now that you mention it you do seem a bit schizo.

[Anonymous No.6364909]

>>6364601
>regulation

Artist deserve everything that's coming to them

[Anonymous No.6364910]

>>6364905
>just use someone else's work, you guys have no qualms about that right?

My nigger, using references is required to make anything decent

Just don't copy it completely or draw over it and then claim it as your own

[Anonymous No.6364912]

>>6364867
You don't understand my point, as simple as it is.

>that doesn't mean the baby does not receive concrete results on it's actions
What action is an unborn baby making when it is learning the accent of its country?
You know how babies cry in different accents depending on the country?

[Anonymous No.6364915]

This debacle is a good example of the kind of world that awaits us with this tech.
Just flood shit with ever metamorphing irrate garbage until you give up and give in.

[Anonymous No.6364919]

>>6364906
>literally told you why it happens
>nigger still repeats rhetoric.
and yet there are people in this thread arguing that humans have the capacity for novel learning.

[Anonymous No.6364922]

>>6364912
>What action is an unborn baby making when it is learning the accent of its country?
>copy sound
>get attention
>copy sound better
>get more better attention
rinse and repeat moron. we're a copying machine.
>You know how babies cry in different accents depending on the country?
there are a lot more differences than just that too, like asian babies usually do not sympathetically cry.

[Anonymous No.6364924]

>>6364922
>copy sound
>get attention
>copy sound better
>get more better attention
Crying while unborn? what?
the accent is apparent day 1 of being born.

[Anonymous No.6364929]

>>6364919
https://muschealth.org/medical-services/geriatrics-and-aging/healthy-aging/yawning
The quote you copied comes from this and this article straight up reinforces the fact that we don't what causes it.

[Anonymous No.6364930]

>>6364915
>retard wont go shoot the people responsible for their abject poverty and lack of rights
>identifies fighting with submission to creating the world their enemies want and giving up with doing the opposite of that.
Wow so you're saying things will only improve when you retards finally give up trying to make the world worse with your psychotic roboticization of human kind.

[Anonymous No.6364932]

the fuck are you Aischizos on
I want some

[Anonymous No.6364933]

>>6360375
His lack of love for the craft itself is disturbing. The push for hustlers is so disgusting, it truly disfigured society

[Anonymous No.6364935]

>>6360375
>debate? I didn't know there was a debate
>there's a lot of shouting back and forth
>not a very intelligent debate if you ask me
He's /here/

[Anonymous No.6364936]

>>6364929
I don't care anon, it's not a narrative it's a fact. it's a kick of adrenaline and oxygen to keep you awake. function follows form.

[Anonymous No.6364937]

/ic really needs ID codes similar to what /pol got. Just so we can recognize posters inside a thread. It would also help when giving or receiving feedback for art.

[Anonymous No.6364938]

>>6364936
>I don't care anon
Classic of AI fags to not care about reality

[Anonymous No.6364940]

>>6364933
>asian
>love
oof.

>>6364937
agreed it would be great if also we could remove passes while we're at it so people couldn't bypass vpn blocks to shill their garbage eternal government vaporware in the guise of fixing ai from being a threat.

[Anonymous No.6364941]

>>6364938
>gets told what the reality is
>disregards it to follow what the programmers want you to think about it and science
>calls me the one who doesn't care about reality over personal feelings.
unreal levels of dunning Krueger and doublethink.

[Anonymous No.6364943]

>>6360375
His lack of love for the craft is disturbing. People that tolerate hustlers really disfigured society.

[Anonymous No.6364949]

>>6364933
>>6364943
So uuuh what kinda bot actually posts here?

[Barry The Artist No.6364951]

>>6364937
Yeah. We could try names... just a little! not as identity across the board, but just for the heat of the moment stuff.

[Anonymous No.6364952]

>>6364915
>>6364930
The end goal of AI tech is to make current models of hyperreality even harder to penetrate.

/pol/niggers were never about the trad lifestyle or fighting the jew or whatever, their endgame was always a return to their prefered kind of capitalist hedonist hellscape instead of the capitalist hedonist hellscape that is active now. It's in their nature to welcome the personalized hedonist hellscape that AI will unleash with open arms.

[Anonymous No.6364955]

>>6364940

Isnt he Chinese?

They seemed to be very passionate, at least in the past, but now both China and Korea seem to be a Japan made of Plastic, mass-producing gargabe to do good in this diseased race we are all sucked in.

[Anonymous No.6364970]

>>6364949
I am not a bot, silly. 4chan is just weird and was not loading the messages properly so I sent it twice.

[Anonymous No.6364972]

>>6364952
what are you hoping for? unless we actually see a land economic crash and I can buy a place and raise a family there the only thing left is warming myself while laughing at the collapsing king and their empire splintering into so many factions when they thought the ride would last forever. Until the land becomes free again my only option to even make it involves duping you and others with something worthless so I can go buy something that really matters at exorbatant prices.

[Anonymous No.6364973]

>>6364970
Sorry sir, I'm getting paranoid with how inane some of the posts here are

[Anonymous No.6364979]

>>6364955
China has been a slave race for millenia anon. That ocean protected japan from becoming a race of complete bugmen. though they are still asian and have asian problems, they are not sociopathic and disconnected mutts who survived off of cannibalism frequently.

[Anonymous No.6364982]

>>6364951
>>>/420chan/
out.

[Anonymous No.6364991]

>>6364972
>what are you hoping for?
Compromise or death.

[Anonymous No.6365003]

>>6364991
literally the only chance you have for a compromise is the situation I outlined then anon.
The empire has to crumble because it has for over 50 years not allowed land within reach of the poor. No a plot in a hood surrounded by criminals is not land. Land is enough space for you and 50 other people to live minimum. they literally printed trillions to keep it out of our hands and you think retarded pussies fighting for more bureaucracy in their hands is going to get you compromise? death will be a mercy, but it wont be them dying.

[Anonymous No.6365012]

>>6364979

I dont know. I always had a lot of respect for asians, since childhood. I just think that they understand a few things in a very particular way, and even today I am still in love with the way they express certain things.

I feel less isolated when I find a certain japanese authors expressing their feelings and I feel understood to a degree that I never felt by the current media we can find, or by people I usually meet in my life.

Even so, I agree with something you said, that the japanese were able to preserve their identity because of geographical characteristics.

It was great, but I am afraid that, because of the world that we live in, that this uniqueness can be lost.

The world itself seems to be turning everything into a blob of sameness, and this very sad and it makes me very uneasy.

[Sorry The Artist No.6365023]

>>6364982
I'm sorry...

[Anonymous No.6365025]

>>6364973
I understand. Now they even have bots that can generate text. But I dont know if that stance would be wise. I am speaking against AI.

Peter Han is not being fair or caring at all, and I think that we should value charactetistics like that.

[Anonymous No.6365030]

>>6364955
>>6364979
he's Korean I think

[Anonymous No.6365033]

>>6365012
I too am a complete pussy, unironically, and was touched by japanese media in a way no other media except a few rare exceptions speaks to. Japan is far from all its cracked up to be, I visited it about when I got out of college and it disillusioned me, but it definately has strong points even if I dont want to live there. if only you could bring guns to that place it might be worth moving to the country side, in all other ways though... the best i can describe is crowded people make a paradise out of their prison. like some kind of reverse sour grapes

[Anonymous No.6365034]

>>6365003
There can be no compromise with the way things are right now. I like to express myself as an individual and this current tech is a direct threat to me and others like me. Of course the shift to AI hell could have gone smoother what with Dall-E and other closed source AI image generators being crippled and closed-off. In a way Emad releasing SD completely free and flooding the art realm with garbage (both art and people) has been a far stronger wake-up call on the kind of AI hell the big shots have in store for us in the future than any random writer could spit out in text. But I don't think this tech will make much of a difference in battle compared to the state of the art technology the big shots are developing as we speak, trained on trillions of data scrapped from the entire internet. They own most of the internet so their next step is expanding into owning most of our perceived reality.

There's this I agree with that to surrender, in your own tongue, is cuck behavior. So I will shit on AI niggers and AI cultists until there's place for me and others like me once again. Even if it wakes me scorching the whole earth in the process.

As for you personally, you're part of the cancer that needs chemoing in this situation.

[Anonymous No.6365038]

>>6365034
>wakes
*takes

[Anonymous No.6365046]

>>6365034
you shitting on ai niggers isn't doing anything but cucking you from creating a family, getting more land, and creating more. it's literally just copium. go ahead, fight like the loom weaver who surely had as many complaints as you did about far worse living conditions than you ever experianced. Break computers and be ignored while everyone marches forward. It's all coping behavior. You wont look at the reality of what you are doing, let alone blame the right target, no better go after open source AI enjoyers and shit on the retards within reach than do anything useful. Better be a nigger and drag everyone around you down when you know in your soul you already decided to do nothing because it's too difficult. you are the real sour grapes

[Anonymous No.6365050]

>if only you could bring guns to that place it might be worth moving to the country side
why are americans like this

[Anonymous No.6365060]

>>6365050
>noo why do you want to live where you are free and in touch with nature and able to defend yourself and your family
lack of ntr fetish.

[Anonymous No.6365061]

>>6365046
I will, thanks.

[Anonymous No.6365065]

>>6365060
cut down on the paranoia sir
the only thing you'd be defending yourself against in the japanese countryside is maybe the occasional lost bear

[Anonymous No.6365067]

>>6365061
>struggle against a machine by trying to outperform it instead of taking the redpill and going for the real target in lue of safety and comfort
you are nothing like neo.

[Anonymous No.6365070]

>>6365065
the desire for guns is not to defend myself against criminals but the government. I also want all my neighbors to have them too.

[Anonymous No.6365074]

>>6365067
I'm well aware of the fact the only way he 'won' was by hacking the second layer. My own fight is to reaffirm my stance as a iving individual being which will lead to one of the two outcomes I have already mentioned.

[Anonymous No.6365086]

>>6361086
Lol so why do Americans bend their back for Saudis and Israelis?

[Anonymous No.6365111]

>>6365074
you cant do that alone retard, you need a wife and children.

[Anonymous No.6365114]

>>6364864

AI generated /ic/ troll posts arguing for the use of AI in art

Make it an AI that controls its own hosting and can't be stopped by any human. Then have it shitpost at the same time every day for eternity

[Anonymous No.6365134]

>>6365114
AI art posters can't even tie their own shoes proven by the fact they never post their own generated pictures. Do you think they have the mental capacity to use a bot?

[Anonymous No.6365216]

>>6364864
Indians are known to shill garbage constantly. Every town has an overpriced Indian restaurant everyone agrees sucks but mysteriously there's fresh good reviews every day.

[Anonymous No.6365376]

>>6365086
The typical US American can't even name the countries that border the USA or sat what 11% of 100 is but they can name all the Kardashians from that tv show. To them the USA is the only country that matters.

[Anonymous No.6365394]

>>6365134

[Anonymous No.6365441]

>>6361090
The level of schizo

[Anonymous No.6365530]

>>6365441
Thank you :)

[Anonymous No.6365792]

>>6364829


All you have to do is make art yourself. Yes, people use reference but the decision making are influenced by a lot of factor.

The fact we that people are having this conversation is sad... And it's not even a real AI. Machine learning is not artificial intelligence.

From what I see the second humans successfully created an an actual artificial intellect there would be people worshipping it as God.

[Anonymous No.6365912]

>>6361086
Spoken like a true amerilard. Thanks for destroying the whole world with your constant warmongering government which cucks you all the way back to the stoneage. Fuck all of you stupid morons.
Nobody likes an ignorant american. At least be humble retard.

[Anonymous No.6365926]

>>6361139
This is actually accurate. Most gen-Z welcome this shit.

[Anonymous No.6366088]

>>6360375
>just be a good goy .

[Anonymous No.6366238]

>>6364829

>you've never seen

have you ever drawn anything in your life?

>>6364609

Jesus christ... what a brainlet.

[Anonymous No.6366641]

>>6366238
>no arguement, just seething

[Anonymous No.6367342]

>>6360396
>t.souless
wagie mindset is a cancer that must be eradicated

[Anonymous No.6367807]

>>6366641

There's nothing to argue about.