/mmg/ - Manga Making General

[Anonymous No.6141306]

The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work.

Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.
Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).
Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.

Previous thread: >>6112817

Some resources:
/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asg

Books:
Understanding Comics
Making Comics
Manga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Manga
https://mega.nz/folder/Dd4hnZTC#EjMIcTDPLbWXkAJLPHx2Kg
Story: Substance, Structure, Style and the Principles of Screenwriting
https://archive.org/details/RobertMcKeeStorypdf/
2000AD Script Book
https://mega.nz/file/gtNQgY6L#p7vPA_fLOUwxINMBzAX62w_xx282FVQoMhUHDGtiCpE
Even a Monkey Can Draw Manga
https://kupdf.net/download/even-a-monkey-can-draw-manga_58b9ca16e12e89233badd376_pdf

Videos:
"Manga Senpai/Tokyo Name Tank", "SMAC! THE SILENT MANGA AUDITION COMMUNITY"
Habanero Scans: https://www.dailymotion.com/HabaneroScans/videos
Full MANBEN Series link: https://mega.nz/folder/9h1mUYSJ#8sJoO57nMP_JhjnujBXkpQ
https://www.naokiurasawa.com/
Urasawa Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkIFOAoFm47XOAlJwTa6Ieg/videos

[Anonymous No.6141307]

Some western / indie publishers of Manga:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Noir Caesar ( https://www.noircaesar.com/ )
> Focuses on black (specifically African-American) content, but seems willing to publish anyone good enough.
> Seemingly series-based only.
> No "magazine" style updates; series are updated on their own schedule.
> Seems less regular than Saturday AM, but also seems larger in terms of readership.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if http://www.antarctic-press.com/html/submissions.php is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to [e-mail], however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )
> Small indie manga publisher
> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes
> Allows crossposting to other sites

[Anonymous No.6141308]

Other open comic publishers:

Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )
>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.
>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.

Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )
>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.
>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.

Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )
>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.

Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )
>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faq

Top Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )
>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).

Additional publisher lists:
> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/
> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/

[Anonymous No.6141310]

Current Contests:

Tottori: https://www.pref.tottori.lg.jp/mangacontest/

SMAC: Silent Manga Audition
https://www.manga-audition.com/

Webtoons: Call to Action
webtoons.com

Kyoto Manga 2022
https://medibang.com/contest/kyoto-manga2022/

How (You) can help /mmg/:

> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.
> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.
> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.
> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effortposts that help you for posterity.

[Anonymous No.6141466]

When did you decide "fuck it I'm just drawing whatever I want"? How do you get past the barrier of caring what people think?

[Anonymous No.6141484]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AsLtMccY1fTqVYxrift5_AumJd-UutaE
Alright, I updated my drive with the 5 one shots i got done last month:
Babel Akira,
Kaskalkime Ganbarze,
Kaskalkime Lilin,
Kaskalkime Rabis,
And The Inn
Two left to work on

[Anonymous No.6141493]

>>6141466
I don't remember. I think it was around 2 years after I started drawing, in 2016. Or maybe I still care a little bit what people think.

[Anonymous No.6141510]

You will never be japanese
Your work will always look westoid

[Anonymous No.6141544]

>>6141510
How the FUCK do you fix it then???

[Anonymous No.6141549]

>>6141510
pyw
>>6141544
pyw

[Anonymous No.6141628]

>>6141493
>90% of the page is black

[Anonymous No.6141631]

>>6141510
I don't want my work to look like Jap manga. My hybrid style looks way better.

[Anonymous No.6141664]

>>6141628

[Anonymous No.6141672]

>>6141664
It's a good thing
It looks GOOD
It's a BOLD composition

[Anonymous No.6141701]

>>6141510
good, DESU it's just weird to pretend to be something you're not. should be a fusion of styles imo

[Anonymous No.6141709]

>>6141701
>hes not good enough to break down and emulate the styles of other artists and then fall back into his house style at will

oh no no no
east vs west is brainlet shit

[Anonymous No.6141727]

>>6141510
I'm fine with that I like my style

[Anonymous No.6141759]

Katana shonen panel

[Anonymous No.6141769]

Uh, their open beta is live right now. Let's do some damage: https://hellopaint.io/b/Sebg-vxKwx?x=0&y=0&zoom=1&rotation=0

[Anonymous No.6142212]

>>6141510
My drawings look too japanese but how do I get them to look more western?

[Anonymous No.6142604]

My work looks like westoid?

[Anonymous No.6142609]

>>6142604
Fuck, It turns nevermind

[Anonymous No.6142728]

>>6142604
4chan deletes metadata off of images so that's why it turned, I assume you took that on your phone. Your anatomy is a little wonky but the movement of the fists is superb.

[Anonymous No.6142871]

I hate my wageslave job so much, hate my coworkers, hate the people that go there, hate my fucking life. But this hatred fuels me. I’ve finished my storyboard for SMA toady. I’m gonna make it!!!!!

[Anonymous No.6142905]

>>6142604
Based dragon ball spic phone poster

[Anonymous No.6142959]

>>6142604
You come off as hispanic.
t. hispanic

[Anonymous No.6143045]

>>6142728
Thanks for the advice I'll post more things

>>6142905
Wow thanks, the OC didn't mean to look like DB's style still thanks

>>6142959
Yes, I am

[Anonymous No.6143059]

>>6143045
This was made some months

[Anonymous No.6143127]

wips. finally started putting chapter 12 up on patreon

[Anonymous No.6143159]

>>6143127
Kino

[Anonymous No.6143654]

Does anybody has any reference or advices for a good paneling for "fade to black" and then change of scene

[Anonymous No.6144127]

>>6143654
I tend to cut up a panel into smaller bits to show that it's a change of scene

[Anonymous No.6144131]

>>6143654
Make the new scene a page sized panel before moving back into smaller ones again

[Anonymous No.6144145]

>Westerner tries making manga
>It's the most bare-bones generic shonen tropes possible
Why does this always happen? Do they have no souls to make something interesting?

[Anonymous No.6144221]

>>6144145
Focusing too hard on making something that's like the things they like, I guess.
Could also just be that, y'know, comics are really hard to get right in the first place. Plenty of actual manga are barebones generic shonen tropes, you just don't see 'em as much because 1. editorial filters the worst of them and 2. we only see the more interesting/most popular stuff being translated.

[Anonymous No.6144274]

>>6141306
How do I cross hatch? I keep fucking it up, especially on a 3D object.

[Anonymous No.6144291]

>>6144145
same reason /asg/ is 100% anime girls sexo

[Anonymous No.6144308]

>>6141510
I thank God everyday

[Anonymous No.6144677]

>>6144145
real literature is dead

[Anonymous No.6144678]

>>6144274
cross-hatching is evidence of your draftsmanship skills. If you can't wrap lines around form easily, then you definitely will have a hard time cross-hatching. I prescribe 100 doses of Vilppu, spread over 2 months

[Anonymous No.6144738]

>>6144274
The most common error in crosshatching is not following the form, in the same way a painter must follow the curvature of the depicted object with their strokes. It may be good form to lay down contours before crosshatching. When in doubt; don't even bother and just use a bigger brush, assuming you're working digitally.

[Anonymous No.6144888]

I want to post a rought draft, but i don't know how or in which way it will be less bothersome, so more anons can read it, i asked last thread but no one got to answer

[Anonymous No.6144891]

>>6144888
>rough draft
you mean your storyboards?

[Anonymous No.6144924]

>tfw you get better at drawing by drawing
>tfw you get better at painting by painting
>tfw you get better at visual storytelling by visual storytelling

[Anonymous No.6144975]

>>6144891
We better settle this now, i call storyboards to those things where a lot of pages or scenes are draw and/or descripted in the same canvas or page, while i call rought draft to the sketches of a page( with panel layout), and name to the rought draft with dialogues, i want to post the name (ネーム) to get an opinion overall with the oneshot

[Anonymous No.6145005]

>>6144975
i always thought ネーム and storyboards are the same thing, going off of the Urasawa manben series. Whatever planning came before the name would be up to the mangaka, but the name is a consistent thing that mangaka show to editors, right?

[Anonymous No.6145079]

>>6144678
>>6144738
>follow the form
Can you post examples? I've never really understood what the people people mean when they say this.

[Anonymous No.6145143]

>>6145005
Yeah, i mean, you are kinda right, but the thing is the they differentiate to much in format, let's say that one is two pages out of your sketchbook with all the pages and that kind of things, the second one is several pages with a bigger scale... have you seen bakuman? There a scene were a character just fold some pages to divide them in two and each part is a page of the name

[Anonymous No.6145152]

>>6145143
Dude names and storyboards are the exact same thing that serves the exact same purpose. There is no difference.

[Anonymous No.6145173]

>>6145079
Observe how the hatching of the hands follows the contours - that is, the surface of the three dimensional shape. The lines on the fingers are perpendicular to the finger itself, "bumping" and thickening as they hit the knuckles. Without it, the shape would merely be implied from the silhouette of the finger. Painters work the same way - studying painting will improve your hatching, and vice versa. Try it some time.

>>6145143
Just post your thing man. These are semantics are pointless.

[Anonymous No.6145298]

>>6145173
I'm sorry i got carried away, but still i don't wanna spam the thread, and i'm too illiterate to know which way is better to post it, just say a name, i will find a way and upload it on my own later

>>6145152
Yes they may be the same, buy i think that the name works better for the feel of reading and paneling and the flip of page, and those stuff

[Anonymous No.6145509]

Well, since i still haven't got an answer, i will leave this here, so i can get opinions on the design of this thing

[Anonymous No.6145560]

>>6145509
I think the guy(?)'s hair is kind of small and tight

[Anonymous No.6145742]

>>6143654

[Anonymous No.6146139]

I drew a 4koma on a life observation. Imagine being born poor with the poverty mentality, forever a mcWorker unable to escape social chaste no matter the educational level received and seeing these bosses walk around waiving their big dicks with the power to fuck any employee he want. Absolutely disgusting that a person can wield so much power over the vulnerable. I feel sick.

[Anonymous No.6146513]

What is the quickest way to learn perspective?

[Anonymous No.6146528]

>>6146139
Marxism solves all these problems.

[Anonymous No.6146531]

>>6146513
Grids and shapes? I don't really know, but those help me a lot with it

[Anonymous No.6146603]

>>6145560
Nah, i'm find with the guy design, i have after 9 months i have grown attached with this design, i was asking for the monster and also kinda for the paneling too

[Anonymous No.6146605]

>>6146603
Bottom middle- soul.

[Anonymous No.6146606]

>>6146603
And monster is generic.

[Anonymous No.6146629]

>>6146606
Well, that's kinda the point, but you could say that it's something that a generic anime protagonist would fight? If the answer is yes, then i think that i got it

[Anonymous No.6146766]

You ever think about writing stories instead?

[Anonymous No.6146778]

finished chapter 3 of my comic
https://tapas.io/episode/2578640

[Anonymous No.6146815]

>>6146766
I have considered writing a VN so there's less pages to draw but I can't write with the kind of prose that would keep an audience

[Anonymous No.6146846]

>>6146766
I remember that i wanted to write since i was 15 thanks to anime, but i thought that i would never going to have the chance to make manga so i give up... until i got to /a/, there i learn about the contests and this thread, so here i'm... althought i still want to write a book some day

[Anonymous No.6146850]

>>6146846 go big kid

[Anonymous No.6146921]

Alright lads
What does a comic's script look like
Are there any sources I can look at? Any examples?

Araki's chapters on the matter are delibrately vague, and the examples he gives aren't very helpful to me.

[Anonymous No.6146928]

thoughs on my main character? im working on the comic cover, hes an axion, a made up fantasy race

[Anonymous No.6146933]

>>6146921
Is it so hard to type your question into google instead of the post window?

[Anonymous No.6146945]

>>6146933
Advice from humans is nice.

[Anonymous No.6146954]

>>6146945
If you don't think google search results are "human" then why do you think 4chan posts are? They're equally inhuman. At least one can't pretend it knows what it's talking about.

[Anonymous No.6146969]

>>6146921
Watch bakuman or look in youtube for "manga senpai" if you want for manga

[Anonymous No.6147024]

>>6146528
Any cleansing will do even if things return back to as they use to as they live rent free in my head as I seethe myself to sleep everynight. Instead of suffering artist, it's a seething artist that wants to see the world burn and I can't be the only one that shares this sentiment as a bottom feeder. Gentlemen! Our fragile, delicate hands capable of creating great works of art with time and effort should not be living in perpetual fear of burning thy holy hands on the patty grill for every sad minimal wage day. From my experience, these jobs are well suited for epsilons and they enjoy it fortunately and unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.6147120]

Alright i was putting text in a page and i didn't have any problem seeing a lot of layers, but then i miss clicked undet that text and i could write in that same layer, so do people use a lot of layers or simply one for the text?

[Anonymous No.6147124]

>>6146921
Scripts are just that, scripts. They do follow a minimum of required information, especially if you're not the one drawing them. Some people would just say "draw a half-page sized panel of a battle" and let the artists to their devices, Others are like Alan Moore and do stuff like picrel. Grant Morrison was the type of writer that would give you indications like the other one. An artist who worked with both said that readers believe Moore has everything figured out while Morrison is a very chaotic type of narrator, when in truth it's the opposite.

I'm sure the only difference between western and asian scripts is the language.

[Anonymous No.6147159]

How is it? I mean this is still the rought part, and the dialogue still don't convince me that much, but i wanna know if i'm going in the right direction... also if what's better left the page with that paneling or us make them have the whole page, without margin

[Anonymous No.6147161]

>>6146921
Might help if you do it like this:

>break each chapter down into brief synopsis
>expand on key points in the synopsis that progress the plot forward
>fill in a coherent script that would bring the characters to these points

If your characters are pretty fleshed out in your head already you can pretty much watch their interactions unfold independently as if watching an anime for the first time, but in your mind.
It's a pretty neat little trick.

[Anonymous No.6147165]

>>6146815
Why?

[Anonymous No.6147191]

>>6147165
Why what?
Why write a VN instead of manga? Because there's less time-consuming artwork to do and each page will look better considering I don't have to draw so many in a short period of time.

Why can't I write with the kind of prose that keeps an audience? Because I'm just no that gifted in the literary department. My art is shit too but my writing is much worse.

[Anonymous No.6147243]

>>6146921
The OP has a link to a book with examples.
There's also this: https://blambot.com/pages/comic-script-basics

[Anonymous No.6147655]

>>6141510
This. American comics have shit art, but why don't you people embrace your heritage and draw European comics instead

[Anonymous No.6147705]

>>6147191
But it’s a skill like anything else. You have to work at it to even figure out if you’re gifted. No one is just magically good.

[Anonymous No.6147717]

>>6147655
A few reasons.
1) Nobody cares about comics. The stories aren’t good. The art isn’t good. The market is old or niche. They keep publishing crap for the sake of collectors or nostalgic boomers. Most media in America today is made by boomers for boomers. That goes doubly for capeshit. As a result, it’s lame.
2) if manga is what you love, why wouldn’t you make manga? Comics take a tremendous amount of time and effort. Why would you not make the kind that you actually like? They want to be the first good Western mangaka, not the last crappy Western comic artist.
3) The small amount of good stuff doesn’t get published. Western manga doesn’t even get published because the publishers aren’t interested in manga and manga readers aren’t interested in Westerners. Comics? Forget about it. Make some sort of progressive crusade comic or kitschy cape shit or else they’re not interested.

[Anonymous No.6147806]

>>6141727
I like your style too.

[Anonymous No.6147832]

Do pretty much all successful manga artists use assistants?

[Anonymous No.6148170]

>>6147705
I understand that, but I don't really have the time to focus on getting better at writing AND get better at drawing, I can only do one or the other.

[Anonymous No.6148203]

>Drawing a flag up close
>Have to draw all fifty stars
God damnit America. At least I can zoom out the texture in other panels.

[Anonymous No.6148237]

>>6148170
But they’re both needed for manga

[Anonymous No.6148253]

>>6148237
You don't need to be exceptionally gifted with prose to write manga. As long as your characters are speaking coherently that's all that needs to be done. With a VN there's too much "the marble floors glistened under the warm sunlight as it peered through the silk curtains" - when I can just draw the marble floors and silk curtains and don't burn out trying to figure out which words I haven't used before.

[Anonymous No.6148280]

>spend 2 hours in a page
>close it without save
See you all in my next reincarnation

[Anonymous No.6148287]

>>6148280
Here's a tip I learned the hard way as a software developer over the years: Save after every line (of code)

[Anonymous No.6148289]

>>6148280
yeah been there
make a lil script that sends "ctrl+s" every 5-10 mins. costs you nothing

[Anonymous No.6148392]

>>6148280
Farewell, sweet Nerevar!

[Anonymous No.6148528]

>>6147832
Pretty much all yes, but they all had to get there without assistants first.

[Anonymous No.6148736]

Tsukihime panel

[Anonymous No.6148752]

I tried to have fun with the paneling here, so a little bit of feedback would be helpful
Inb4, i wanted to make two notes, first i will make the division between the middle right and bottom right more noticeable, and that i have to change the last panel and the text

[Anonymous No.6148913]

The last quick stretch of pages I have to do.
Then I can just work as slow as I like for a bit.
Gonna try to see if I can get these inked tonight, cuz I'm just going full fuckin Togashi over here...

[Anonymous No.6148958]

>>6147159
anon, everything about this is nonsense. Back to the drawing board!

[Anonymous No.6149033]

>>6148958
What do you mean with that, is really that bad, even thought that was just a random page, i mean 35 out of 43, do I really have to go back to square one?

[Anonymous No.6149047]

>>6149033
nothing wrong with starting over. Rewriting is a valuable teacher

[Anonymous No.6149501]

When writing a story, should I aim for 60-80 chapters to tell and wrap up the full story? My favourite manga series usually do their best arcs within 11-12 volumes and there’s about 5-7 chapters per volume.

[Anonymous No.6149599]

>>6149047
Be constructive or i will think that you are messing with me

[Anonymous No.6149697]

>>6147159
I kinda like it, but with no context is hard to tell if the dialogue is good.
Also what is your font letter? can you pass me a link?

[Anonymous No.6149711]

>>6149697
I went to the scalation threads last week and i just asked for this picture

[Anonymous No.6149722]

>>6149711
thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.6149807]

>>6149599
I honestly meant no insult, I've rewritten a single story dozens of times, and threw away many times that amount! Probably written several hundred short stories by now, with almost a thousand pages of storyboards unused, from the past 3 years. That's just what it takes when you're an average moron

[Anonymous No.6149857]

>>6149807
I know the why to rewrite, i was asking what to re write, and why

[Anonymous No.6149869]

>>6149857
not sure how you want us to answer that, since you only posted one nonsense page. If you want constructive criticism on your writing, please post the whole story

[Anonymous No.6149893]

>>6149869
hehe, yeah i'm going to post the whole story, but i need to finish the rought draft of 15 pages yet... i have been rearranging a lot of things and rewriting some more, so it has take me more time that i thought

[Anonymous No.6149947]

>>6149893
looking forward to it :D

[Anonymous No.6150062]

Any of you moving to Japan? Learning Japanese?

[Anonymous No.6150078]

>>6150062
I want to move to Japan for study, but in two years probably

[Anonymous No.6150119]

>>6150078
Will you study manga?

[Anonymous No.6150132]

>>6150062
I'm learning Japanese atm, mined 1000 sentences already, but I can still hardly understand a thing, I think I'm not getting hard enough sentences

[Anonymous No.6150139]

>>6141308
>>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.

So in other words, aspiring single creators can fuck off to webtoons.

[Anonymous No.6150141]

>>6150139
I think they mean you have to draw it as well

[Anonymous No.6150189]

>>6150062
Yes I'm working on several manga drafts to show publishers. I'm studying the language but I'll still have a friend interpret

[Anonymous No.6150260]

>>6150139
>So in other words, aspiring single creators can fuck off to webtoons.
It's telling idea-guys to fuck off. Either have an artist or be the artist, don't come to us expecting us to find somebody for you.

[Anonymous No.6150314]

>>6150062
I was hoping win the travel to kyoto to run to the woods and live there forever, but my plan got wrecked this year so i will have to find another way to get there, maybe by swimming, anyways i'm a sponge for languages so i have been learning bit by bit

[Anonymous No.6150811]

Is there anyway of getting out of your head while writing? I find myself overthinking when i write dialogue out of fear of making it cringe/bad idk if this writer’s block but I just need some advice if anyone has sum

[Anonymous No.6150816]

>>6150139
To be fair, if you've got something good, you'll rise to the top no matter where you publish to. Webtoon is the way to go if you care about reaching the biggest audience with the least resources. Comic/manga publishers are becoming less and less significant as it is. In my opinion, Webtoon and the Webtoon format is the future.

[Anonymous No.6150835]

>>6150811
I feel like if your art is extremely sophisticated, people will automatically assume you're really intelligent and that your crappy dialogue is actually like that on design (kinda like picasso)

[Anonymous No.6150841]

>>6150811
Nah I don't think that it's a problem, i just think that you are editing yourself, i mean i have the same problem, but i just see it as a way to have my feets dig on the ground...

[Anonymous No.6150864]

>>6150841
Love making with Bocchi.

[Anonymous No.6150898]

>>6150811
Have a trusted partner to show it to and give you feedback on. It's difficult to find somebody like that, but that's the natural solution. Having a second perspective on your work is very important. It's why writers tell you to show it somebody before trying to take it to a publisher. It's why every author has an editor.

>>6150816
>Comic/manga publishers
Eh, advertising/promotion is still and will always be a crucial part of publishing. Manga publishers still bother to advertise, whereas comic publishers do not. Can you tell?

[Anonymous No.6150926]

>>6150816
are there many readers on desktop? I was under the impression it was mainly mobile users, so a conventional layout wouldn't do as well necessarily. How is discoverability on that site?

[Anonymous No.6150951]

>>6150816
yeah, it's just like how youtube has killed television. Someday we'll all probably be brains in a jar

[Anonymous No.6150981]

>>6150864
based

[Anonymous No.6151521]

Starting a new project about a cat, what mangaka does my art style resemble, and any advice or criticism? /wip/

[Anonymous No.6151567]

still working on my bs
https://tapas.io/episode/2581134

[Anonymous No.6151623]

>>6151521
soul

[Anonymous No.6151735]

I am definitely new to all of this, hence why I wonder how risque an artist can go before they are called out. Are comic/mangas with tons of fanservice still a thing or is it even safe/stable to publish one, self or with a proper publisher otherwise?

[Anonymous No.6151744]

>>6150926
Well:

"WEBTOON is the #1 webcomics app in more than 60 countries with more than 55 million users monthly. The platform boasts more than 1 million titles from more than 500K creators telling their stories to over 15 million readers every day. "

This quote is taken from an article, but I verified this myself using stat tracking websites. Generally between 55-65 million people visit webtoon a month. But yes, mobile naturally beats out desktop readership. You don't have to adapt the webtoon format if you don't want, but it's not only convenient, it has advantages that are only possible with the vertical scrolling format in regard to timing/beats and other things.

I can't speak to discoverability except that the best rise to the top. My advice would be to any comic artist would be to never enter into the publishing domain unless you're making something with all your heart and soul. If you want to get noticed, you have to be pushing your limits to the max.

[Anonymous No.6151859]

>>6151623
Thank you thank you

[Anonymous No.6152128]

>>6150189
Awesome. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.6152230]

>>6141306
My comic:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B4M98NTH

[Anonymous No.6152627]

chapter 9

[Anonymous No.6152929]

what's the current state of clip studio?
i'm still using an old pirated version when it was called manga studio.
when i compared it to a newer version of CSP i noted that CSP used more RAM. that was a year ago or so.

i'm making a manga and i'm more familiar with the old program, and it works great. but i've been wondering if i should upgrade and maybe even buy it properly. the thing holding me back the most is probably that i'd have to readjust everything.

how is it now? does it run well? any great functions that were added? especially in terms of comic making. i'm also considering buying because i'd get access to their brush libraries and stuff.

[Anonymous No.6152961]

>>6152929
Its come a hell of a long way since manga studio, lots of new functions and features have been added. No performance issues here, but I dont have a third world PC.

[Anonymous No.6152962]

>>6152929
I can't speak for anybody else but there's nothing in CSP now that I wasn't using in mangastudio.

[Anonymous No.6152973]

Does anyone ink with the default csp gpen? I feel like if I don't use it I'm conceding that I'm not good enough to draw manga

[Anonymous No.6152996]

>>6152973
Why? Mangaka themselves don't care, they just use whatever tool they like.

[Anonymous No.6153001]

>>6152996
i feel like they don't care because they could make beautiful art with the default gpen while mine all come out looking like cheap clip art

[Anonymous No.6153002]

What are the logistics behind screentones / values when it comes to analog artists? Do they have a dedicated individual they talk to about what parts of the page should be darkened, and by how much? Do they simply annotate their pages / provide notes before sending them in?

I don't know the process behind them.

[Anonymous No.6153015]

>>6141631
pyw

[Anonymous No.6153036]

>>6153002
They're generally in the same room as the assistants as they work, so they just tell them "yeah do it here and here like this" and maybe give them an example if it's something complicated or specific.

[Anonymous No.6153256]

>>6153002
I think that it'a more preference and experience

[Anonymous No.6153259]

>>6152962
Line Width Adjustment tool is pretty nice
That's a new feature, like since last year

[Anonymous No.6153269]

>>6148736
This isn't bad. I reccomend a different font though. That one looks stretched and doesn't fit well into the box. Try centralising it and increasing the size, maybe making it bold.

[Anonymous No.6153327]

>>6153002
download
>Absolute Carnage - Director's Cut 001 (2019) (Digital) (Zone-Empire)
and look at the making of at the end. Its not quite what youre asking but I believe it will give you some idea.

[Anonymous No.6153734]

>>6148528
So at what stage do the assistants come in? What are the responsible for other than backgrounds? Are there really no examples of a notable mangaka that didn’t use assistants?

[Anonymous No.6153792]

>>6153734
>So at what stage do the assistants come in?
When they can afford to hire them pretty much.
>What are the responsible for other than backgrounds?
Depends on the series/author. Some they just do some light toning (eg Seven Deadly Sins), others the author just does the storyboards and draws the main character and has a team of assistants to do everything else (Golgo 13).
>Are there really no examples of a notable mangaka that didn’t use assistants?
Hayashida Q was flying solo for Dorohedoro according to the afterword of the final book. There are definitely more examples but none spring to mind.

[Anonymous No.6153861]

>>6153002

[Anonymous No.6153926]

4 pages to go and i finally will be able to post the rought draft and get some advices

[Anonymous No.6153941]

All I have is this

[Anonymous No.6153943]

>>6153941
And page 2
I don't know if I should continue with comicbooks.

It's all I have to do that is interesting though, so I'm thinking to just keep doing 1 hour a day. I had to quit because of sudden weight gain, but I'm expecting in the coming weeks to get back on it

[Anonymous No.6153947]

>>6153941
>>6153943
I think this is nicer for people than making a real cartoon because such a thing controls your entire brain. Comic books are alright in my experience.

It's not finished, but no one has commented on it, so I'm just going to assume it's okay and keep rolling with it.

[Anonymous No.6153964]

Wings of Daera is actually better than most manga I've read.

[Anonymous No.6153975]

I do feel like my comics are not good for women to read at all. Like it will create a lot of pain for them, but women are so strong it won't matter.

[Anonymous No.6153986]

>>6153941
>>6153943
Anyway, if anyone is upset by this comicbook, please say so so I can have enough sense to stop creating it.

Otherwise I will just keep going with it.

[Anonymous No.6154007]

>>6141307
Take out the first two.

[Anonymous No.6154327]

>>6154007
why?

[Anonymous No.6154329]

>>6151744
>it has advantages that are only possible with the vertical scrolling format in regard to timing/beats and other things.
i feel like it loses it however when you have to keep moving your thumb to read the bit by bit conversation and watching the text jerkily make its way up the screen often disjointed from whatever facial reaction a character was making

[Anonymous No.6154362]

>>6154327
>le heckin brown people!

[Anonymous No.6154668]

>>6154327
>>6154362
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.6154956]

>>6151567
Coloring is good but a little bit of anatomy practice can go a long way in making your artwork more appealing. For example for the talking guy, the left hand connects awkwardly to the wrist, and then the upper are is too short, and the fingers of the left arm are totally flat. Facial features are also a little lopsided which will become immediately obvious if you flip canvas. You don't have to grind these skills or something if you have a story going but maybe being a little bit aware of this can help.

[Anonymous No.6155004]

Is there manga of idol concerts during songs? Like panels timestamped to music?

[Anonymous No.6155014]

>>6155004
For example, let's say I have a scene/dance choreographed to music, but had to use manga/comics as a medium.

[Anonymous No.6155037]

>>6147655
>European comics
Because i'm not franco-belgian.

[Anonymous No.6155236]

Alright, this is my rought draft, please forgive me for my shamefur display, i know that that i'm not conveying what i want with the dialogue, but if i try to fix the dialogue i end up in a loop where i have to fix the paneling and so on, so i have been more careless with the dialogue since is faster change the dialogue to match the felling of the story and the panel, that change the paneling, please be honest and as harsh as you can with it
Anyways this is the closest that i its to a final form so any advice is well recived, i'm sorry, i'm really sorry, but please ask anything that you don't understand
Now i will take a nap, since i have been sleeping like shit and my blood pressure has been low as fuck, so please be honest https://imgur.com/a/G2hEwCZ

[Anonymous No.6155292]

>>6154668
You first stormweenie

[Anonymous No.6155302]

>>6149882
>>6151071
Why do your twitter accounts keep getting suspended

[Anonymous No.6155420]

>>6155236
Too many of the same shots make it a bore to even look at. Ignore people who say art doesn't matter cause composition is far more important than the actual writing. If the composition is shit, it's not fun to read in the first place.
I don't know what's happening in the middle panel of page 3, it appears as if he's drinking from a straw but that breaks continuity.
Gonna admit that I didn't look through all of it. But the paneling and general pacing could be improved by a lot. Page 2 alone could be compressed into 3 panels and Page 3 could be 3 panels as well. I'll post an example later but you should seriously think about page economy

[Anonymous No.6155465]

>>6155420
>>6155236

[Anonymous No.6155482]

If you’re young and not studying Japanese I highly recommend you start now.

[Anonymous No.6155503]

>>6155482
Why
I have no interest in Anime, and have no linguistic skills beyond English

[Frank Miller No.6155509]

(((The Eternal Wolverine))) Fears The Silver Samurai

>Sin City: The Hard Goodbye

[Frank Miller No.6155512]

>>6155509

[Anonymous No.6155523]

>>6154956
Thank you. I am sadly an amateur and while I have improved its a very tough journey. But I try to get better and better. I do reverse the canvas all the time but sometimes its not enough to catch these things.

>>6153964
I am extremely flattered anon, thank you.
That said I feel almost obliged to point you to great manga that would make you doubt that (at least for now, because Wings of Daera will become amazing as it goes!).

[Anonymous No.6155767]

>>6155420
>>6155465
Thanks for making the time to read a few pages and give me advices anon, i really appreciate it, and thanks you so much for remember me that the word that i was looking for was composition, i mostly posted the draft to know how i was going with the compositiong and the paneling, since i know that i have to improve the dialogue, but i feel that june was just yesterday and now we are on 11th day of july, so i got in panic for it

About the page economy, i just can say that this started as a 22 pages max, then i went over 50 and end up being 43 pages

About the pacing i need to know if it's to slow or too fast, that might change latter adding the right punctuation, but i have been reading it while i was trembling like a schizophrenic chihuahua, so i think that it's too fast
Also the panel in the page 3 was suposed to be a flashback to the night before, thanks for remind me that i didn't change that
Also thanks you for the edit effort, but i wanted to note that i'm doing this like a traditional manga format (start with the first page on the left, having the 2 pages spread and use the last panel to turn the page) so i don't know if i could aply it right away
But again thanks you for taking the time and answer me so seriously

[Anonymous No.6155784]

>>6155503
I think the biggest hurdle to punk song manga will be Japanese ability.

[Anonymous No.6155789]

>>6155302
Because this sperg couldn't stop chimping out about stuff even /pol/ considers schizo
When he first came to a discord I'm in, the first thing, when he came over, to be mentioned is "im getting banned everywhere because im too redpilled lmao"
Nasty piece of work.

[Anonymous No.6155817]

>>6155236
the script is REALLY clunky.

"Have you been sleeping well at least?"
> are you getting enough sleep?

"people like you is the first one to die"
>people like you are the first ones to die.

"I want to take a walk, and see if I can find something happening. Is that or i won't be sleeping again tonight"
>I think im going to take a walk, see if i can find something going on, its that or another night of no sleep/

"i couldn't find nothing in the end"
>I couldnt find anything.

"i hate this world, it looks kinda empty, well i dont really hate it, but i cant stand to live on it, i wonder if this count, ever since i can remember, is always one thing or another, it doesn't matter where i'm, it doesnt matter where i look. theres always something weird happening around."

>I hate this world, it feels "empty(hollow?)", maybe hate is too strong, i can't stand living in it, ever since i remember, its always one thing or another, it doesnt matter where i am, there is always something off about it.

All of your dialogue is one big soliloquy, if thats the case it cant be shots on shots of the character thinking it, picture it as a narration over other scenes in a movie, maybe scenes of the main character observing the nature of his world,
there is ALOT of dialogue aswell. like a cumbersome amount, its a visual medium, show dont tell. pick out what is REALLY important to the narrative and trim the fat.

[Anonymous No.6155870]

>>6155817
Thanks you for reading it, and you are totally right anon, i will improve the script, and also it's my fault for not adding dialogue boxes, so it's pretty simple confuse the dialogue and the narration(the more little dialogue isn't that important, just to be there besides the sfx that i will add latter)
I just overlooked to script to get out of the loop that i was, but i hope what i did write was enought to make the idea of how it should be, i was prioritizing the composition and the paneling so i could start drawing and finally get the things in order without make a drastical change in the pages and the order and those things


Also i wanted to make more a little bit more of narration to explaing a little bit how the mc actually feels so people could conect that with whats going on in the art, but i just don't know if they would overlap and make everything more convoluted
And i'm sorry that i'm so confusing and hard to understand, i'm simply have a mess in my head trying to do this, and thanks for the advice

[Anonymous No.6156155]

>>6155870
are you esl

[Anonymous No.6156159]

>>6147159
damn that's deep
got that tattooed on my arm bro
check it

[Anonymous No.6156404]

How useful will reading this be when drawing manga?

[Anonymous No.6156493]

>>6156155
Yesn't, i mean yes and no, i have been learning since i was eight, and i suck speaking my own language too, for reasons i don't wanna blogpost about

[Anonymous No.6156499]

>>6142871
based and rage-pilled

[Anonymous No.6156575]

I'm still creating a backlog on patreon. 4 pages and a bonus drawing just went out
patreon.com/otakubasket

Work hard today /MMG/

[Anonymous No.6156912]

>>6156575

[Anonymous No.6157003]

>>6156493
NTA but maybe don't post an image just for flavour with every message if it's not necessary to help communicate something (like a visual example from a comic) since every thread has an image limit. /ic/ is a slow board and having to make a new thread before it's full just because this one hit image limit and nobody can post comic pages anymore would mean this one would get abandoned but stay haunting the catalog for a good while before it can finally get bumped off the board.
It risks people getting the active and inactive threads mixed up, not letting the inactive one die, and all sorts of board-worsening shenanigans you're probably not used to if you mainly browsed a faster board before this.

[Anonymous No.6157037]

>>6157003
I thought that the image limit was between 150 or 300?

[Anonymous No.6157044]

>>6155767
Page turners work best if they're actually impactful to the plot. If not, you can use flow to keep the page turning, especially a conversation

[Anonymous No.6157079]

>>6157037
It's bigger here than in other boards but it still feels needlessly avatarfag-esque accompanying every post with an anime girl.
Some are more likely to pay attention to posts with images, but if that's what he's aiming for then images of his comic would work better.
It's not that people never post reaction images or attachments that don't add much, but doing it every post is a bit disruptive.

[Anonymous No.6157100]

>>6157079
I don't know from where you got that, but it's just a "bad(?)" habit that i got from just post on /a/ anon, you don't have to rummage that much

[Anonymous No.6157125]

Anons please take care if you are drawing a lot

[Anonymous No.6157256]

>>6155870
>>6156493
>>6157100
do you have your script written out in like a doc somewhere? I think it would be beneficial considering your english is really terrible, put it in a text doc, i'll proof read it and we can get it to at least a legible state.

I'd also combine all your pages into one image, so you can easily look over all of them, scrolling through the imgur link is tedious and doesn't help us help you with your composition. they are sketches so it doesnt need to be full size.

[Anonymous No.6157515]

>>6141493
good job wiz.

[Anonymous No.6157549]

>>6157256
I'm sorry anon, but i'm unable to write a traditional scrip, all besides that like is the more poorly draw storyboard that i did in my sketchbook and a note with the dialogue that it's in the link, but i that ofter is still up when i done drawing i will gladly take it

>>6157256
Alright so i did some research and i think that i have the cubital tunel syndrome, not the carpal tunel one, and the cubital one is for beding the elbow too much of for too long, so plase take care anons, i would have posted some exercises but i didn't find one

[Anonymous No.6157559]

>>6157256
I'm sorry anon, but i'm unable to write a traditional scrip, all besides that is the more poorly draw storyboard that i did in my sketchbook and a note with the dialogue that it's in the link, but i that ofter is still up when i done drawing i will gladly take it

>>6157125
Alright so i did some research and i think that i have the cubital tunel syndrome, not the carpal tunel one, and the cubital one is for beding the elbow too much of for too long, so plase take care anons, i would have posted some exercises but i didn't find one

[Anonymous No.6157639]

Are there any books like Draft Works that show an artist's prelims?

[Anonymous No.6158034]

>>6157515

[Anonymous No.6158064]

What's a good resource for learning how to design characters? I never know what hair style to give them, and it's becoming formulaic

[Anonymous No.6158214]

>>6157125
too late

[Anonymous No.6158376]

>>6158214
Actually, i never too late, unless you need a surgery, until then you can still do the exercises, i mean i went to sleep with a splint on my elbow and i have been doing some exercises and i can feel my fingers again

I wonder if anyone else is going for the same, i think that i'm going to do exercises after every panel that i draw so i can heal soon

[Anonymous No.6158465]

How do you guys plan/thumbnail a chapter?
I wrote a scene-by-scene outline but I'm having a hard time translating that to pages in an appealing way.

It's kinda hard to learn from mangaka too since they're so experienced/skilled

[Anonymous No.6158559]

>>6141672
fuck's sake that image gives me the heebie-jeebies

[Anonymous No.6158736]

>>6158465
Did you not have any visuals in mind when you wrote the script? Draw those.
If you weren't thinking of visuals when you wrote the script then I don't know what to tell you other than do that next time and just make some up for now.

Unfortunately it can't really be broken down any further, this is the part where you're translating idea into visuals. This part is pure trial and error. Storyboard it, and if you don't like it then storyboard it again. There's a reason storyboards are typically drawn quick and loose: because it's quicker to do them over.

[Anonymous No.6158738]

>>6158064
Look at lots of stuff. Save stuff you think is cool and when you need to design a character go to that folder and look at the stuff.

[Anonymous No.6159240]

>>6157639
>Draft Works
Hey that's pretty neat, here's a comparison of one of the opening pages.
Neat to see how he finishes it and how it's changed

>>6158064
>hair style
Pinterest, there's also video games with character creators which should give you some ideas
Beyond that it's just keeping a folder whenever you see a design you like

[Anonymous No.6159265]

Anyone tried writting while trying to fight there sleep ? Im doing this rn lo

[Anonymous No.6159335]

I'm almost done with both the SMA and tottori submissions. AMA
>I'll reply after I submit it so I don't lose more time

[Anonymous No.6159368]

>>6157639
There's a Rough Artbook for Platinum End, idk if it's in the book thread

[Anonymous No.6159389]

do you guys think there's enough time in the day to both do hardcore AJATT and also learn to make manga at a professional level (both writing and drawing?) It's starting to feel impossible to me...

[Anonymous No.6159397]

>>6159389
One will inevitably eat time you need for the other, unfortunately. Unless you can consistently dedicate 6+ hours to each daily, and nobody really can.

[Anonymous No.6159412]

>>6159397
yeah, I realized i want to be a pro as early as possible. I could do ajatt and manga at the same time, but it would delay me by several years. I'll just learn Japanese when I"m already an established pro

[Anonymous No.6159569]

>>6158465
it sounds like you aren't conceptualizing your scenes enough. it isn't enough to have a general idea of a scene and dialogue. if there are specific visual elements that come to mind when a scene is thought up you need to sketch out that idea. even if you aren't straight up copy concept art like I do. (though it is highly resourceful)

I of course work very differently. I often do not go into a scene with finalized dialogue in mind. for chapter 12 I went in without final dialogue. I storyboarded when I wanted major dialogue moments, comebacks, big gut punch lines ect. and added what I needed later. If the ride to your best lines is boring or poorly directed no one will care anyway. if you want an example of a manga that did this. go read barrage by horikoshi. his shounen-style declaration panels were always weak because of this.

my point is, you need to focus on the visual elements and direction of a scene just as much as dialogue and the scenes story significance.

>>6159412
>I'll just learn Japanese when I"m already an established pro
this isn't the play. reading Japanese is complicated and writing as a non-native would be incredibly challenging.

[Anonymous No.6160041]

>>6159569
Your screen tone game has gotten pretty impressive. I like that top left image especially, though I think I like her face in the rough more than the final version.

What program are you using?

[Anonymous No.6160053]

>>6160041
>though I think I like her face in the rough more than the final version.
original was wilder, seemed more crazy, I liked it more too.I started toning down the stylized faces when the final was being made

>What program are you using?
Clip studio paint.

[Anonymous No.6160061]

>>6159569
cover reminds me of Ajin

[Anonymous No.6160085]

>>6160061
ajin is kickass. the painter kinda has the look/ body language of the ibms huh? if only he looked as good

[Anonymous No.6160148]

>google "draw fur manga"
00.1 second after and i knew it, but i still had hope

[Anonymous No.6160255]

Is the line art good enough (i mean in the monster) or not? I feel like i'm being to autist zooming in and feel like it's horrible and then zooming out to feel that o over did it

[Anonymous No.6160284]

There isn't any reference for wet heavy clothes for drawing? I just found shirts and light clothes

[Anonymous No.6160386]

sorry if this is not the right thread to ask but in clip studio, how do i both have a horizontal ruler and a perspective ruler?
im trying to draw a background in 2 point perspective but when i try to use a special ruler (to have a horizontal parallel line) it automatically turns off the perspective ruler, and when i turn it on, it turns off the special ruler

[Anonymous No.6160387]

>The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work.

Would a vaguely manga style fancomic count? This ain't original characters but I'm a dedicated fan of this series and I wanted to make a fancomic of it for a long time so I'll be working on this for around a year or 2. It's a test I'm working on to see how it would be if I posted my pages as I finish them on twitter directly since I've been Chinese webcomic artist do something similar.

When looking for crits I'm more looking for things I can apply to future pages (such are "you need to work on ___ in the future" or "I've noticing you tend to do ___ a lot, don't do that anymore"

[Anonymous No.6160389]

>>6160387
(ive failed captcha 7 times now to post this...)

[Anonymous No.6160515]

>>6160389
this is great

[Anonymous No.6160534]

>>6160389
>NTRshit
You should be thrown from a tall building

[Anonymous No.6160540]

>>6160389

>>6160534
I don't even like NTR, you're just assuming on a few pages with minimal dialogue

[Anonymous No.6160591]

>>6160540
Then why do you draw NTRbait shit if you don't like it?

[Anonymous No.6160606]

>>6160591
Boys and girls can be friends

[Anonymous No.6160610]

>>6160606
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.6160626]

Alright, since my elbow is burning a little bit, i think that i will have to give up on this sma round, and try to do as fast and carefully as i can the kyoto contest
>Why do i say this?
Well because i need to ask two things, first i need to ask if there is a less stressing way lf doing hatching
And how many info do we have for the tottori contest, since i'm going to skip the sma, after i end the kyoto entry i will have to rest at max two weeks unless my elbow goes back to normal, so i wanna go full focus on the tottori

Also, please take care anons, i will fucking remind you everyday, so you can keeps your hands safe

[Anonymous No.6160668]

>>6160386
Perspective ruler automatically acts as a parallel line ruler along the x and y axis. Not sure you can have both rulers up at the same time though, at least not on the same layer. Try putting it on a different layer, and if that doesn't work try hiding one before placing the other.

[Anonymous No.6160758]

>>6160606
lol

[Anonymous No.6161035]

>>6146928
bit dumb to put him against that background, he barely stands out

Also trash design like humanoid Bambi

[Anonymous No.6161132]

>>6159389
Depends what your definition of 'hardcore' is. 2 hours of immersion a day is easily enough to get to a decent level if you're doing it intensively over 2 or 3 years. If you're studying manga you're probably reading a lot of manga (or you should be at least), so just make it that you only read it in Japanese.

It's slow at first, but luckily various manga series being so long allows you to get pretty good at the specific terminology of that domain.

Also it depends on what your goals are I guess. If you think you're going to need to be talking to people a lot, then practice speaking a lot (don't fall for the 'no early output' meme). In that case, trying to memorise complex sci-fi terminology from something like Ajin would be a waste of time (compared to outputting on hellotalk or whatever).

t. Have ramped up my Japanese learning more and more over about a 3 year period. Started really small by doing RTK anki 5 - 10 minutes a day while on break from work, then moved up to sentence mining / intensive immersion maybe 30mins - 1 hour a day, and now I do 3 - 4 hours a day now that I'm getting into intermediate+. Now it's for the most part purely for enjoyment doesn't register in my brain as 'study'.

[Anonymous No.6161225]

Good morning /MMG/ work hard today.

[Anonymous No.6161236]

>>6161225
>doing art test for a job
>get sick with 2 days left on the deadline

[Anonymous No.6161253]

>>6161236

[Anonymous No.6161318]

Which design do you think is the best? I like the two left but my friend says the bottom right catches his attention best....

[Anonymous No.6161498]

>>6161318
bottom right for me

[Anonymous No.6161506]

>>6141306
>/mmg/
i thot this was the megaman art general

[Anonymous No.6161511]

my manga pages size is 5 mb and dont fucking know how to reduce it, happens everytime

[Anonymous No.6161522]

I always feel somewhat dissatisfied but I did try here. Mostly to play with tone and brightness to guide the eyes.

https://tapas.io/series/Wings-Of-Daera

Btw I'd love if you guys linked your work when you post, I'm a slow but avid reader.

[Anonymous No.6161524]

>>6161318
You should post his full body design, I think it would be more helpful, and give story context for the markings.

[Anonymous No.6161550]

>>6161511
Export in other format or in smaller scale

[Anonymous No.6161796]

>>6161318
bottom right looks best

[Anonymous No.6161845]

I just sketched out 5 pages only to realize the reader would basically have no idea where the characters are/what their surroundings look like
Establishing shots are hard.

[Anonymous No.6161905]

yoshikadu hamada is streaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os7ljSkwJe8

[Anonymous No.6162014]

>>6161796
>>6161498
I see,
>>6161524
He would have the same body and clothes as here besides maybe a cape or something, For context I need to give him some sort of "power up" so he doesnt die when the story gets farther on and he starts getting involved with the more powerful characters. I dont like transformations really and instead wanted a technique like Kaioken or Sage mode something that doesn't change his appearance very much.

[Anonymous No.6162226]

>>6161845
I too underestimate how many enivornment/object shots are necessary to establish a setting since I always want to jump into character close ups. I've been trying to notice how much page space/panels mangaka use when changing settings or starting a new story and it's always more than I would think.

[Anonymous No.6162244]

>>6161845
>>6162226
Search in youtube "manga senpai 32"

[Anonymous No.6162261]

>>6162014
>>6162014
I was wondering what the colors for his outfit were to pair with the face colors, but I agree with the others that the bottom right looks good, though the line on his nose looks more like a scar than a supernatural marking.

[Anonymous No.6162276]

>>6162261
Ah, His clothers are just black/ Dark grey. Nothing crazy. I'll have to maybe fix the nose line then to make it look more like a tatoo/marking.

[Anonymous No.6162387]

>>6160540
fixed this page slightly

[Anonymous No.6162390]

>>6162387

[Anonymous No.6162410]

Do these legs look erotic enough?

[Anonymous No.6162435]

>>6162410
Too thick, they look like a dude's legs. Make 'em more slender. Use smooth, curved lines rather than straights and sharp curves.

[Anonymous No.6162585]

I don't remember if I posted last thread but manga page

[Anonymous No.6162859]

>less than 15 days remaining for SMA
>just started sketching the first pages
>tfw I’m never going to make it in time

[Anonymous No.6162874]

>>6162859
Last time idid 9 pages in 6 days anon, i'm sure that you can make it

[Anonymous No.6162880]

>>6161225
Good morning /MMG/ work hard today

today I'll be seeing a neurologist and getting needles in my hands. reap what you sow after 5 years of drawing I guess.

[Anonymous No.6162883]

>>6162880
>getting needles in my hands
Why???

[Anonymous No.6162889]

>>6162883
a majority of my time in the last 5 or so years has been spent on drawing. Only education or part time jobs ever slowed me down. multiple 12 hour work days in a row, lots of hyper fixating on projects. I don't like doing much else, and mostly rely on drawing to survive.

my family already has a history of arthritis at young ages, but my habits may have led to bad carpal tunnel or tendonitis. pain pills really help but I need to make sure I'm not doing permanent damage to my hands or pushing them too hard by numbing them with drugs.

[Anonymous No.6163056]

>>6162859
Update: rough sketch for all the pages is done. The one shot will be 15 pages total.

[Anonymous No.6163402]

>>6163056
jesus that is rough.
Quick question, how thick are deleter pages? I might invest into them

[Anonymous No.6163409]

>>6161225
Nice I like this a lot

[Anonymous No.6163734]

>>6163402
It’s thick but not too much. I’d say the thickness would be similar to two pages of printer paper glued together.
The surface is smooth so it takes a bit of time to get used to.

If you ever buy this paper, be sure to get the B4 format, not the A4. Or else you’ll need to draw beyond the trimming lines like I do.

[Anonymous No.6163912]

>>6163734
Not that anon, but that's a good looking page, i really hope that you can make it in time

[Anonymous No.6163978]

>>6150062
Nah. Even if one learns fluent Japanese, their culture is not foreigner-friendly, no matter how much you try to adhere to their customs. They will always see you as a baka gaijin.

[Anonymous No.6163989]

>>6163978
>oh no I'm always gonna be exotic to the ladies how horrible!

[Anonymous No.6164032]

>>6163989
Make sure you do not marry lest ye shall become her slave.

[Anonymous No.6164111]

returning my project

[Anonymous No.6164236]

>>6164032
>being a Japanese girl's slave is a bad thing

Oh no no no senpai that's not how it works

[Anonymous No.6164575]

>>6162880
>>6162889
update: owwie they shocked my nerves too. felt wacky

[Anonymous No.6164860]

Heres a graphic novel i just finished illustrating, Vitiators. You can pre order it here if interested. https://expatpress.com/product/vitiators-elytron-frass-charles-n/

[Anonymous No.6164874]

>>6164860

[Anonymous No.6165749]

>>6164860
Damn. You gotta hate it when you pop a titty.

[Anonymous No.6166018]

>>6161132
the problem is that I feel like I can't immerse. I have probably a 200-300+ book library that I plan to read through, many of them are classic sci-fi novels, and I'm also planning to find an animation job soon, so I can publish comics / graphic novels on the side until that takes off. I just feel like Japan no longer has a place in my plans, that I can already achieve anything I want to in America. Learning Japanese would just be a pleasurable hobby at that point, but I don't know if I can afford to do it while trying to kickstart my career. Maybe once I'm a pro, I'll have more time, but even then Boichi says it's very difficult just to survive the industry day to day

[Anonymous No.6166651]

Sketched out some pages for a hentai manga I'm drawing, was hoping to finish the prelims in a day but guess I'm not that fast yet.

More than a few awkward panels, and idk about the pacing. It's porn but it feels a bit fast.
General plot is a hot monster girl getting railed by a pair of monster boys (boys are a couple).

[Anonymous No.6166858]

>>6166651
>hot monster girl getting railed by a pair of monster boys
Alrigh-
>(boys are a couple)
Dropped.

[Anonymous No.6166898]

First time i ever had to draw a comic. Used to just making characters. Much harder than I thought

[Anonymous No.6166904]

>>6166858
this, except I'd drop it at "a pair"

[Anonymous No.6166911]

>>6166898
>ESTO ES EL FIN, JIREN

[Anonymous No.6166920]

>>6141306
>op image

is this acceptable art? I would kill myself if my art looked like this.

[Anonymous No.6166923]

could you guys take a look?
https://tapas.io/episode/2046436

[Anonymous No.6166945]

>>6166920
pyw or gtfo

[Anonymous No.6166954]

>>6166945
i draw worse, but I still wouldn't like drawing like that. I was just mad when I posted that.

[Anonymous No.6166957]

>>6166920
That's Osamu Tezuka, the godfather of manga. learn your place, bitch!

[Anonymous No.6167136]

>>6166923
Is this inspired by JJBA? Cause it feels like it.
>The writing
tonnes of typos, the first sentence has a typo--rulling instead of ruling--and the dialogue is generic, and at the sane time, feels like a shitpost.
>Paneling & Art
Every shoot is practically the same, face shots everywhere and not enough variation to make the poor composition interesting. The artwork isn't the worst but it's inconsistent. Especially the rats, I can identify the joke but it's just so bizarre that it almost makes me forget that this story has no plot >picrel
>The story (so far...)
We know nothing about these characters besides their quirky personality traits, we get a small line about a blue parrot and that's it. No exposition on why they're there. No actual substance. The first chapter shouldn't be like this, especially if you're aiming for a badass group of characters. Nothing about this makes me want to continue it.

[Anonymous No.6167139]

>>6167136
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.6167144]

I have done nothing these past few days, so that i could that care of my elbow, yesteday was worse, but now is way better, should i take a day or two more of rest, or i should get back to work tomorrow? Which one would be better? I also if i rest i want to re write the dialogue since the biggest faults of that, was re writting panel by panel to make it more cheerful to keep people interested on it, but the truth is that i'm good only writting depressing stuff, so i will go back to that

[Anonymous No.6167168]

>>6167144
Did you post your story here before?

[Anonymous No.6167177]

>>6167136
it was just a unfinished project I did to try different personalities together. it was supose to have 20 pages actually but I abandoned it to focus in the main story(but I returned to finish what was left at least)

But I will try to finish it now

[Anonymous No.6167186]

>>6167177

[Anonymous No.6167187]

>>6167186

[Anonymous No.6167202]

>>6166651
fuck yeah, more hentai artists. looking solid thus far.

[Anonymous No.6167233]

>>6167168
Yep, i post it in an imgur link(some anon said it was tedious to scroll down, so i will ask again for another way to post it later) and even if it's a convoluted mess i know that i have to change it and improve it but i hope that makes the idea of what i was trying to said

[Anonymous No.6167647]

Are there any videos of a mangaka's process of making a whole chapter? I feel like we usually see a page, at best. I'd be interested to see how their storyboards start off, how they clean it up, and how much they leave to assistants. I suppose that's asking a lot, with how long people would have to tape, and how many angles.

[Anonymous No.6167656]

>>6167647
>Are there any videos of a mangaka's process of making a whole chapter?
https://www.youtube.com/c/mierihiranishi

[Anonymous No.6167659]

>>6167656
>https://www.youtube.com/c/mierihiranishi
I've never seen that channel before. Cheers.

[Anonymous No.6167677]

>>6166858
>>6166904
It's cute guys with fat dicks spitroasting a girl then making out. Sort of a bisexual hentai which I really don't see enough of.

>>6167647
Look up Yoshikazu Hamada, he includes most of his process on his YT channel

[Anonymous No.6167693]

>>6167677
>cute guys
>guys
>cute

[Anonymous No.6168072]

>>6151567
Guys, is the scene readable? Or should I separate the columns more?

[Anonymous No.6168131]

>>6168072
Had me a bit confused with the lines running between the bottom panels which looked kinda like arrows with the birds, I thought it might be zigzagging instead of running down at first and that both columns were showing the same scene, the right focused on the girl and the left on the guy. I thought the girl was UUOOOhing cause a bird landed on the mans shoulder and he barely responded like its an every day annoyance, but I take it they're seperate and she did that cause a bird went up her skirt?

[Anonymous No.6168136]

>>6168131
yep.
so I need to make more clear they are separate scenes, got it. No birds flying between panels, maybe making the columns more separated between each other.

thank you!

[Anonymous No.6168144]

>>6167233
Okay. I remember.
I think you should focus on an actual story. Your current comic lacks any kind of story and is more so a breakdown of a character. You can make the story simple, for example the main character isn't actually paranoid but is facing a real threat in his mind. You can have his friend be the one pulling the strings, making sure he never realizes the truth. Basic ideas like that can make your story in to a proper story.

My current comic I'm working on and off on has the simple plot of a loser main character wanting to prove that he is worthwhile.
>picrel

[Anonymous No.6168146]

>>6168144
p.s. nothing in the image is final.

[Anonymous No.6168223]

>>6167144
Depressing stories are pretty popular and have their own audience from the happy stuff, so don't worry about trying to please anyone with what you want to convey. There's a lot of people who are more inclined to the tragic.

[Anonymous No.6169176]

Next thread doko?