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I remember my high school art teacher once said "doing art is the closest thing to immortality"

>> No.6079162

bump

>> No.6079166

>>6079150
Nope, doing math is. Art is dependent on cultural values, math is forever.
http://www.arvindguptatoys.com/arvindgupta/mathsapology-hardy.pdf

>> No.6079187

>>6079166
didnt you hear anon, math is racist now

>> No.6079200

isn't lasterk dead or something?

>> No.6079203

>>6079166
Math is not imbued with it's observer like art is with it's creator.
>>6079150
The words of a quitter.

>> No.6079207

>>6079203
Hardy considers that point at the very end of the essay. His response is that the question is solely about immortality, not about the type of immortality (more personal vs less personal).

>> No.6079284

>>6079166
kek, I like Hardy, but with all due respect, the book should be called "A Mathematician's Cope"

>> No.6079298

>>6079166
Math is immortal because it never was alive in the first place. Math is not a celebration of life. It's its absence.

>> No.6079306

>>6079298
Wrong. Everything about our universe is expressed in mathematics. Even art is mathematical in nature.

>> No.6079308

>>6079203
>Math is not imbued with it's observer like art is with it's creator.
That's true of grunt maths, things like accounting. The men on the cutting edge have warped later men's understanding of maths through their eccentricities and particular obsessions, men like Pythagoras and Euclid, Euler and Riemann. And while Pythagoras for example was a great eccentric, a philosopher, a cult leader, a musician and a bombastic suicide, what he is remembered for is his triangles, and if not for them the rest would have faded into obscurity by now.

Anyway, I prefer to think of maths as something solid and inert, like stone, while art is something that lives, nevermind most artistic media literally and inevitably decay on a short timescale while mathematical theorems are tamper-resistant. Immortality exists in stone, but stone is where dead men reside. Art is for the living.

>> No.6079511

>>6079306
Mathematics is not about creating anything new.

>> No.6079662

Art is ephermal and always vulguarized. The closest thing to immortality is immortality, the afterlife.

>> No.6079667

Jesus Christ, you faggots will do anything to avoid drawing. You're not immortal, this is your chance, go fucking draw.

>> No.6079668

>>6079511
You couldn't be more wrong.

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>>6079166
math is a just a medium
and its expression arguably also falls under the umbrella term of art
fuck you

>> No.6079694

>>6079166
>>6079511
https://youtu.be/AMS32ddNscQ
mathematics is what defines "new," "old," existing or not existing, everything and nothing; it is literally the singular, indivisible factor of determining the value of reality and is a constant in any kind of universal, dimensional or informational configuration, the known, the unknown, all physics possible or impossible, are governed by the exact same mathematical structure that defines existence, non-existence, possibility, impossibility and probability
mathematics is older than this universe or any other possible universe, it is eternally constant and monolithic, it is its own entity, an all-powerful, perfect god, designed by itself

>> No.6080202

if you like math you belong headfirst in a toilet
get the fuck out of my board you NERDS and get DRAWING

>> No.6080280

>>6080202
This

>> No.6080546

>>6079200
no he is immortal

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>>6079166
>Art is dependent on cultural values
only if you're a political normalfag
math exists specifically to be superseded by a completely new discovery that changes our understand of reality and renders the old perception obsolete
people will still be studying artists like Rembrandt and Leyendecker a thousand years from now

>> No.6081701

>>6079150
Did he died?

>> No.6081709

>>6080202
based

>> No.6082210

>>6079694
You can’t prove any of those claims, thank Gödel.

>> No.6082719

>>6079166
>>6079203
Shut up math fag nigger. Go to the literal board on this site for math.

>> No.6082741

>>6079166
>Art is dependent on cultural values, math is forever.
Spbp