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>19 years old
>decide to start drawing, want to be like my heroes
>start on August 2020
>fundies and more, constantly grinding
>never let myself doubt, go on and accept crit
>grind my fundies
>month 1 2 and 3 go by, barely improving, others are better than me but im still trying
>month 4
>finally break, acvept that Im talentless
>periods of giving up start
>now
>6 months wasted draeing and /ic/ told me I had zero progress, a child would do better than me
>had fun before but now I've been completely demoralized, nothing works, literally traumatized
What do? Why can't I improve?

>> No.5241056
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5241056

Why is /ic/ telling me to quit? I just want to improve, be like my heores
If anyone can learn to draw, why not help me instead?
Is there any artistsI should write an email to as to make them tell me if I should quit or not?

>> No.5241057

>>5241041
1) 6 months is not a lot of time for a new artist
2) which fundies, what have uou been drawing, how much have you been drawing?
Post what you have got I will tell hou what you need to focus on to improve

>> No.5241058

>>5241057
Can I link a thread with my art and posts instead? Is that ok?
Honestly, everyone here agrees that I should be better 6 months in.

>> No.5241061

>>5241056
>told you to quit
Ngl that is pretty damn mean
This is pretty bad, but can you post what you had 6 months ago? Maybe there is an improvement you are not seeing. All I can really say is maybe focus more on learning to understand 3d shapes.

>> No.5241062

>>5241058
Sure, linkem

>> No.5241063

Talent

>> No.5241079
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5241079

I met an individual, a telepath who would abusively poke around my mind and future, laugh at me.
He told me I had no talent, I woukd never improve, I woukd barely improve with effort, didn't want to belueve him despite him being, well, a literal telepath who always got it right, I failed whenever he told me I would fail.
Be honest with me, was he right? I will never improve right? No matter how hard I try
In my 6 mlnths I could have been more daring, I barely pushed myself but still, I dont have talent.
Was he right?
>>5241062
https://i.warosu.org/ic/thread/S5239563
There's another warosu link there, please check it and give me your opinion on if I should quit or not.
Be warned, we are very unstable and it can switch in a moment.

>> No.5241082

/ic/ be honest
Am I just never ever going to be good at drawing? Why?
>>5241061
>>/ic/thread/5190763
This one is more organized
Should I quit then? I want to be good but I don't think I can, I'm inferior.

>> No.5241087

>>5241061
>Ngl that is pretty damn mean
welcome to /ic/, keep up with this thread for an hour and then you'll understand

>> No.5241088

>>5241056
Who are your heroes?

>> No.5241091

>>5241079
telepathy isn't real

>> No.5241092

If you go to the gym for 6 hours a day every day but lift no weights and sit around you're not ever going to get buff. It doesn't matter how many hours you spend.

When you "grind fundies" every single drawing you do you should be learning something, maybe today you figure out how the hip joins the leg to the torso, how the lip is shaped, etc etc. If you don't do this and simply put out drawings you're not actually training your brain and it makes sense you haven't improved.

>> No.5241096

>>5241061
Welcome newfag, you'll soon learn why.

>> No.5241098

you can go to a telepath how about going to a drawing atelier?

>> No.5241100

>>5241091
>>5241098
I'm not talented enough for an atelier and sadly we met, btw very real

>> No.5241101

Is this even possible for me?
>>5241088
Yuasa
Moebius
Akira guy
Alita guy
Blake
Basquiat
>>5241092
So I haven't improved at all?

>> No.5241105

>>5241041
You're not talentless you just need to stop having a mental breakdown and practice more. Six months is not enough. Anybody that is laughing at you is laughing because of your terrible attitude. Your problem is that your immature not that you're not improving. Just keep drawing if you want to succeed. You draw like a future gmi but you have one of the worst ngmi attitudes. Attend to yourself and get off this useless train of self-loathing. You CAN and ARE improving so don't sweat it. If you're tired of grinding then stop grinding and take the time to actually enjoy art. Use some color and explore. I can't fix you but I can certainly tell you to stop fucking around and pull yourself out of this imaginary gutter you've made for yourself.

>> No.5241106

have you ever tried drawing what you want without ever giving a shit?

>> No.5241107

>>5241061
>>5241079
>>5241082
I wrote about the resources I used in there

>> No.5241111

>>5241106
My entire existence is soured due to anhedonia (lack of pleasure) and deranged cope mechanisms to shiled myself from trauma, one of those beibg failure.
I drew for fun back then but I don't know how to do it now. Sorry.

>> No.5241115

>>5241111
Dear lord, is this actually you, OP? Just take a moment to relax and watch a movie or youtube or something. If you're having a mental breakdown just take some time to recuperate. Just leave this thread, man. It's ok. We're fine if you leave and you're not fine if you stay.

>> No.5241116

We are on a lucid mode, no spergouts will happen for the time being, we are too depressed for that.
>>5241105
What makes you say that? I don't think I draw like an GMI, not at all, I can't ignore all the things people told me, I loterally hear those posts.

>> No.5241123

>>5241041
you need time idiot, stop thinking art is something you're gonna achieve in months, takes fucking decades.

>> No.5241124

>>5241041
Wow, you're 19 OP!? You'd better give up, you're too old to learn anything. I'm 18 and I hope I can do everything I want before I get as old as you!

>> No.5241128

>>5241123
Neuroplasticity worries me
I'm 20 and I'm a collection of conditions, I have to pick something now and stick to it for life, but what if I make the wrong bet? Say, what if you wanted to be an archer but you had no talent, despite trying you'll never be good at it so you waste your life trying, maybe you should have tried marksmanship but then it's too late.
I'm already depersonalized so killing myself is more about getting over the lazyness and not about regretting it. If I fail to justify my existence, just terminate yourself, that's my viewpoint.

>> No.5241135

>>5241124
I'm 20 now, last year to pick something and stick to it, otherwise I'll be too old.
>>5241115
I'd be wasting more time
If I do nothing I waste time, 2 months of the last year to choose something, 2021.
Gone.
Yet if I were to draw without improving, they would be gone as well, wasted time.
I can't attempt to draw right now, I break down and suffer because I think I'm not going to improve, I lack confidence, I lack skill and talent.
I just need to know what course or resource to follow so I can develop what I need to improve. Many kind anons have given me resources but which one? What if I make the wrong bet and instead of 6 months they turn into 8 months wasted. Idon't know what to do, I don't know if I can do it, if it's for me, if it will be worth it.

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>>5241041
My god, this guy has pretty much become the /ic/ tumor

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>>5241135
>Many kind anons have given me resources but which one?
here, you seem reasonable right now so i'll tell you the secret that few in /ic/ seem to get

they all fucking work

the reason you haven't gotten anything out of them is cause you don't see instant improvement, panic and then quit. stick to something motherfucker.
don't know why i'm bothering though because you just ignore anything that doesn't sound like a magic instant dick growth overnight pill

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>>5241041
>>grind my fundies
There’s your problem. Grinding fundies is like practicing scales instead of playing songs on the piano. Only ngmi boomers that want to make it one year in their 30s give this useless shit advice.

>> No.5241210

>>5241079
>>5241100
>telepath poking around my mind taunting me
Sounds like textbook schizophrenia, or if not that then at least *some* actual mental illness. Have you ever actually been to a doctor about it?

>> No.5241303

>>5241041
>Why can't I improve?
You just don't have the talent for it. kys and respec

>> No.5241305

>>5241168
>reading books is hard, seeing long time artists post on /ic/ is easier
basically what fag op said

>> No.5241330

every thread you make puts you an hour closer to your deadline of never being able to learn again, so stop posting and start drawing
the jannies are trying to help you

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>>5241330
What's this deadline you speak of? When is it? Oh no, Is that going to happen?
>>5241168
I never finished a course, if I didn't get something, stuck, I would move on to another one but how am I supposed to do it, I don't get contour drawings like pic related so I stopped doing it all together

>> No.5241419

>>5241204
good movie

>> No.5241422

>>5241396
>f I didn't get something, stuck, I would move on to another one
lmao and you think life works like that? NGMI mentality right here

>> No.5241434

>>5241396
So you did a page or two of organic shapes in what looks like 5 minutes, didn't get it and then called it a day no shit you're not getting anywhere
Spend time on organic forms until you get it, don't move on until you do. Understanding how draw in 3d is very important.
Here's some important advice: looking at your drawings, you're going too fast. Take it slow, don't rush through it in hopes you'll improve faster, that's not how it works. Go slowly around the form, speed will come naturally. Go. Slow.
And when it doesn't look right, keep working on it. If you can't sit down and do this then I think you're fucked.

>> No.5241457

>>5241041
Dammit I thought mods finally banned this faggot when they deleted his thread and posts in the vent thread.

>> No.5241463

>>5241105
Don’t feed him false hope you are contributing to his mental illness. He needs to get professional help seriously

>> No.5241465

>>5241434
This is hopeless... I'm never going to become a real woman... Why practice? What is the point? I don't have any talent...

>> No.5241468

>>5241041
https://mental-health-matters.com/

>> No.5241470

>>5241041
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_disorder

>> No.5241473

>>5241041
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/find-help/index.shtml

>> No.5241475

>>5241470
I have acdc.... I have autism... I have no talent. Is my life worth living? How sad... I'm sad.

>> No.5241477

>>5241041
https://www.mentalhealth.gov/get-help

>> No.5241481

>>5241473
Even the government isn't going to help me, me... the talentless brat who's crying on /ic/... How weak I'am.... Akira Toriyama, Rebecca Sugar, Pendelton Ward...

>> No.5241483

>>5241041
https://www.mhanational.org/finding-help-when-get-it-and-where-go

>> No.5241485

>>5241041
https://www.cdc.gov/mentalhealth/tools-resources/individuals/index.htm

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>>5241481
https://www.helpguide.org/articles/mental-disorders/schizophrenia-treatment-and-self-help.htm

>> No.5241491

>>5241041
https://www.rethink.org/advice-and-information/about-mental-illness/learn-more-about-symptoms/worried-about-your-mental-health/

>> No.5241493

>>5241477
Health is mental... or mental is health? I hear the angels singing.

>> No.5241496

>>5241041
https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/mental-health-wellness/seek-help.aspx

>> No.5241501

>>5241041
https://www.mentalhealthfirstaid.org/mental-health-resources/

>> No.5241500

>>5241496
prrrr pffftttt tprrrrrrrrr rrprrrrrrr pffffffffffffffffffffft

>> No.5241506

>>5241496
Oh no, my mum is drinking again... I'm never going to make it...

>> No.5241508

>>5241041
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/adult-health/in-depth/mental-health/art-20044098

>> No.5241509

>>5241508
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>> No.5241512

>>5241041
https://www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/nhs-services/mental-health-services/how-to-access-mental-health-services/

>> No.5241514

>>5241512
im a normal humann beings

>> No.5241519

OP has lost it
he's not even writing coherent stuff anymore
Mods should have permabanned him long ago

>> No.5241520

>>5241514
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>>5241519
Why I can't improve? Why I can't improve? Why I can't improve? Why I can't improve? Why I can't improve? Why I can't improve? Why I can't improve?

>> No.5241531

ANSWER MEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY IM SO DIFFERENT? WHY I WAS BORN TALENTLESS!?? WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME????????

>> No.5241533

>>5241531
SHUUUUUUT UUUUUUUUUUUUP!!!

>> No.5241539

>>5241531
You aren't talentless, no one is.
The only reason you don't improve is because you're not giving yourself enough time to. Just take it easy, go a bit slower and you'll make it. Don't pressure yourself too much. Your drawings are way better than mine when I started out.

>> No.5241546

This is why you should treat your mental-illness as soon as the symptoms begin, anons.
Leave the internet
See a therapist
Find real life people to connect with
Don't wait until you become like this

>> No.5241548

>>5241514
Having a mental illness doesn't mean you're not a normal human being.
I have a few mental illnesses and I'm still a normal human being.
Try to get help, you don't have to be alone in this. Therapy works, I can vouch for that.

>> No.5241561

>meds. now.
isn't a meme

>> No.5241579 [DELETED] 

>>5241475
>>5241481
>>5241465
You're not me

>> No.5241583

>>5241041
>What makes me unable to improve?
Porn

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5241584

This person is not me, I'll use my trip code
I'm on a lucid and depressive mood, I can't sperg out
>>5241477
Do you think the CBT book would help me?
>>5241422
I'm just too scared to fail
>>5241434
But is it normal or am I inferior in that I don't get it, I did more and I just can't wrap around it.

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>>5241539
But anon, what about this thread
https://i.warosu.org/ic/thread/S5239563
Look at the things people were telling me, that I had zero progress, that I should kill myself and that I should quit

>> No.5241599

>>5241584
>>5241586
All your problems stems from you not seing a psychiatrist Your brain is fucked and you can't draw because of it. You need a brain and a working body to draw.
If you had broken your fingers wouldn't you go to the hospital? It's the same.
Schizophrenia means : Fear, no determination, no creativity, no gains, ngmi

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>>5241599
No, please no.
So it's impossible for me to make it then
What do you think about my 6 months of drawing?
Please be honest but not harsh, that other mood is already banging on the door, taking over
What's your honest assessment on me?

>> No.5241605

disappear

>> No.5241610

>>5241602
>So it's impossible for me to make it then
If you don't seek treatment, yes you'll be a ngmi forever
Lots of people can live with schizophrenia anon. You can reduce the effects and have a normal life. If you keep this up you're guaranteed to fail.

>> No.5241612 [DELETED] 

>>5241610
>If you keep this up you're guaranteed to fail.
WHY?
I want to get better but I can't go to the doctor, there are many things they don't know, they won't let me out if they were to find out about the moods, about the avian feeling.
Please tell me how to improve, give me the course that will cure me, how many hours should I draw?

>> No.5241616

>>5241612
>they won't let me out if they were to find out about the moods, about the avian feeling.
It's for your own good anon.
They will keep you until you get better so you don't hurt yourself and others.
It's not permanent if you follow the treatment.

Courses won't help you, loomis, villpu, tracing, minimalism. You can't draw with a brain that don't work.
Seek help, anon.. You know it's the only right thing to do

>> No.5241618 [DELETED] 

>>5241616
No please, then you're saying Ill never make it Ill never make it
I cant get help
ID WASTE MORE AND MORE PRECIOUS TIME IF I DID
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO?

>> No.5241620 [DELETED] 

>>5241463
FALSE HOPE
EXPLAIN YOURSELF
DO YOU THINK I SHOULD QUIT OR WHAT? TELL ME
TELL ME

>> No.5241622

>>5241618
Your schizophrenia is already making you waste time
You spam threads on /ic/ and /co/ when you could have practiced instead or read books.
Seek help or ngmi. Last (you) from me

https://www.mentalhealth.gov/get-help/immediate-help

>> No.5241628

Op, the purpose of this board is use her resource to be rational, understand that everything takes time and you should study the fundamentals everyday.
This board always helped me only because I go easy and don't compare myself with others.

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>>5241463
>>5241622
YOU DONT GET IT
WHICH BOOKS?
I CAN ONLY START AGAIN IF IM SURE I WILL IMPROVE

>> No.5241636

>>5241041
Based, another schizo thread. /ic/ has basically become a source of amusement at this point.

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5241644

WE HAVE ASKED /X/
FOR THE FUTURE
SAME AS THE TELEPATH THEY SAY I SHOULD GIVE UP
THIS IS A TRAGEDY
IM UNSURE ABOUT THIS
MY UCID MOOD IS LOCKED ON A PRISON, ITS ALL ME NOW

>> No.5241659

I don't know why you are crying. You've been drawing only for six months but it still looks like something. You should keep drawing and when you hit one year; I'm 100% sure you will have improved. It will make you more patient and more disciplined. Good luck!!

>> No.5241662 [DELETED] 

>>5241659
DONT GIVE US FALSE HOPE
FOR WE KNOW LOOK AND READ THIS
https://i.warosu.org/ic/thread/S5239563

>> No.5241717

>>5241612
>they won't let me out if they were to find out about the moods, about the avian feeling.
Yes they will.
You just go there, talk about your problems, they help you and give you meds if necessary and then you go home.
You won't get locked up just for having schizophrenia.
I remember being afraid of telling my therapist about how suicidal I was and I thought they might keep me there, but I was wrong. They were very understanding and told me that it's common for people to have some misconceptions about these things and that they won't do anything without my consent. I don't know how it is in your country, but professionals will definitely help you. And even if they convince you to go to a clinic to stay in, you won't stay there forever. I know it's scary to go at first, but schizophrenia is something that can be managed, it's episodic and there are meds for it after all.
If you have trouble with daily tasks, a therapist can help you as well. My therapist helped me move to a home that had helpers and they'd come in and regularly check up on me and help me with some stuff. Once I was better, I moved out and I can manage living on my own now.
Seeing a therapist will definitely help.
>>5241602
My honest assessment on your art is that it's promising. You can definitely improve.
If you don't see yourself improving, it's because you're being too pessimistic and expecting too much in too little time. It's a slow progress afterall.
The only thing you're actually lacking is the ability to believe in yourself.
Really, see a therapist, it can help with your art too. There's even art therapy and you'll be encouraged to make art. But in your case, just basic therapy and meds should do the trick

>> No.5241725

Look at this shit
>>>/x/27810286

>> No.5241727

I think you're biggest problem is that you're mentally ill, seek help

not only are you mentally ill,

you are mentally ill and on 4chan

>> No.5241732

>>5241727
>and on 4chan
legit the biggest problem
If I ever have kids I'll make sure to block this cesspoll.

>> No.5241762 [DELETED] 

>>5241659
FAsle hope
>>5241727
>>5241732
LIAR
>>5241717
youre lying to me
youre lying to me
everyone tells me Im talentless, so that means they are right
IM TALENTLESS

>> No.5241772

>>5241762
You are talentless, worthless and a crybaby, fuck off from this board nigger. Give up drawing. Do music instead. Shizos are good at music.
Or if you want to draw, post your shit on deviantart and become a furry artist.

>> No.5241773

>>5241610
>>5241612
>>5241616
If you struggle with schizophrenia, anon, know that you’re not alone. You can treat it and and focus on your art, but first you need to treat it. Is there someone you can reach out to to help you get treatment? Now is the time if you want to make it as an artist. Don’t wait.

>> No.5241774

>>5241772
ps: nice bait thread btw

>> No.5241778

>>5241773
I'M EATING MY OWN FECES RIGHT NOW, ARE YOU HAPPY??? ARE YOU FUCKING HAPPY????

>> No.5241779 [DELETED] 

>>5241773
LIAR
I HAVE NO POTENTIAL
YOURE LYING
IM TALENTLESS
>>5241772
WHY DO YOU WANT ME TO GIVE UP? WHY
AM I TALENTLESS?

>> No.5241780

>>5241762
>everyone tells me Im talentless, so that means they are right
I didn't tell you that, so it's not everyone.
Also, they're wrong, you aren't talentless.
Don't listen to bullies or people who only put you down. They are quite common on 4chan, but less so in other places.
If you're afraid to see a therapist by yourself, you could try asking someone you trust to come with you. Whatever will make you feel safer

>> No.5241782

>>5241779
You are talentless because you're a faggot.

>> No.5241786

>>5241780
why are you trying to talk to someone who clearly and evidently after hundreds of attempts won't listen to a single thing

>> No.5241788

>>5241772
Fucking stop it you worthless crab. The dude is 19 and is having a mental breakdown with schizophrenia. He’s not “worthless at art” his art isn’t even that bad he just needs to get his mental health in order. He is at an appropriate place for the amount of time he has been drawing.

OP, You have so much time left in your life to practice drawing. The only thing you have left to do before you “make it over the hump” is get treatment for your schizophrenia. You can make it! But first you need to take care of your mental health.

>> No.5241793

>>5241788
He needs to grow up.
Also he's a troll, he's doing this threads for fun.

>> No.5241798

>>5241788
MY FECES ARE TASTY; MY FECES ARE TASTY; MY FECES ARE TASTY; MY FECES ARE TASTY; MY FECES ARE TASTY; MY FECES ARE TASTY; MY FECES ARE TASTY; MY FECES ARE TASTY; MY FECES ARE TASTY; MY FECES ARE TASTY; MY FECES ARE TASTY; MY FECES ARE TASTY; MY FECES ARE TASTY; MY FECES ARE TASTY; MY FECES ARE TASTY; MY FECES ARE TASTY; MY FECES ARE TASTY; why im so talentless?

>> No.5241800

>>5241041
It takes lik 5 years+ bro stfu get back to work

>> No.5241804

>>5241786
Because I've also had mental issues and ended up catastrophizing as well in the past. It was terrible and I should've gotten help way sooner.
Even if I can't help him, I at least want to try...

>> No.5241806

>>5241804
/..................................................../ im so talentless and im crying right now...

>> No.5241808

>>5241793
He has schizophrenia and he’s not dealing with it because he’s young and afraid of the stigma.

It’s ok to have schizophrenia, you just need to get help for it. People can be normal and still have it. Right now you need real human support. You need to stand up strong and reach out to someone you trust. Now is the time to seek help. Not with your art but with your mental health.

>> No.5241809

>>5241798
Really, listen to him --> >>5241788
Get it treated and you won't have issues with your art

>> No.5241811

>>5241806
Reach out to someone you trust RIGHT NOW. Please do it for me, anon. Things can get better you just need to seek help.

>> No.5241812

>>5241636
I find it interesting to see how their mental illness shows in their art. 6 monthsfag can clearly make art that looks like whatever he's referencing, while the scribbleschizo only posts art that looks like it could be something.
>>5241793
>he's a troll
Nah, he's probably legit mentally ill. He's been doing this shit for weeks and shows plenty of original drawings, that type of thing has too much effort behind it to be just a troll.

>> No.5241816

>>5241812
Idk, for a month I was posting ps2 reverse engineering threads just for the sake of it. So there's a possibility that he's doing it for the lolz.

>> No.5241824

>>5241812
I also think this guy's legit, there's just a threshold of dedication to it that has been crossed. There's lots of actual trolls that pretend to be him though, like >>5241798 and >>5241806 - the actual dude is more like a broken record, he never writes random or novel things in his posts.

>> No.5241826

>>5241816
It’s called having a “psychotic episode” and OP has schizophrenia.

The best thing that can be done right now to help this thread end is to encourage OP to reach out to someone he trusts to for help.

>> No.5241830

>>5241826
Seconded, for now let's just stop discussing art with him altogether, and just parrot mental health resources at whatever he says.

>> No.5241832

Its been less than one year, settle down you impatient fuck

>> No.5241835

>>5241830
Mental health resources aren’t as important as reaching out to someone to help get help.

He’s in no state of mind to seek medical help. He needs a real person to help him with that.

>> No.5241837
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5241837

>>5241056
/ic/ isn't one person schizo poster. Most of us have been telling you to keep it up. You can improve, but you need to relax. Either way I hope you stick around since it's fun laughing at your breakdowns.

>> No.5241843

>>5241832
OP is just having an episode and has schizophrenia. He is in the age bracket where his symptoms are still in their early stages and he might not have the network in place yet to reach out for help if he needs it.

The best thing we can do right now to help OP is to encourage him to reach out to someone he can trust.

>> No.5241845

shu shu schizo, go finish your courses!!!

>> No.5241847

>>5241843
Thats actually really depressing, I hope he gets help

>> No.5241849

>>5241837
You’re a fucking monster

>> No.5241853

>>5241845
Stop it. This isn’t helping

>> No.5241855

>>5241806
You really aren't talentless. It's understandable if you're sad and afraid. I was too. But there is always hope, even if you can't see it. You aren't hopeless, you never were and you do have potential. Also, you're only 19, there is a ton of time for improvement, concerning art, you will only get better.
The best thing you can do for yourself right now is really getting some help.
Just look up what therapists practise in your area and make an appointment. You might not get one right away; in my city I was just put on a waiting list and had to wait a while until there were enough spots, so the sooner you make an appointment, the better. With some luck, you won't even have to wait long or at all.
You don't have to do it right away, you can do it later when you're feeling a bit better. Just write it down or something, don't forget about it.

>> No.5241856

>>5241847
Me too. It disgusts me how people are trying to fuel this. He needs to seek help.

>> No.5241859

>>5241837
shu shu schizo, go finish your courses!!!

>> No.5241866

>>5241859
Please stop this. OP needs help and this is going to make things harder for him

>> No.5241870

>>5241835
Yeah you’re right, it’s trickier than just throwing links around. still, the most important part imo is to stop playing his game and refuse to talk about art with him, at all - because then he will inevitably start spiraling again.

>> No.5241874 [DELETED] 
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5241874

I UNDERSTAND I UNDERSTAND
THE TELEPATH IM THE TELEPATH
IM MY OWN CHASER
IM TALENTLESS
BUT I CAN TELL WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING
THEYRE TELLING ME IM TALENTLESS
I CAN FEEL PEOPLE AND THEIR NOISE I CAN TELL WHEN THEYRE LYING
YOURE NOT FOOLING ME
PEOPLE WANT TO SUPRESS ME
IM NOT GOING TO SEE A DOCTOR
ART CAN FUCKOFF
ART IS A REAL PERSON ART EXISTS AS SOMEONE
I MUST FIND THEM AND GET REVENGE FOR NOT GIVING ME TALENT

>> No.5241878 [DELETED] 

>>5241874
PEOPLE LIED TO ME
/IC/ LIED TO ME TELLING ME MY PROGRESS WAS NORMAL
/CO/ LIED TO ME TELLING I WAS DOING OK
YOU LIEYOU LIED TO ME
I WASTED 6 MONTHS NOT IMPROVING
EVERY SINGLE POST I CAN HEAR
CALLING ME TALENTLESS
ART REJECTED ME
PEOPLE LIED TO ME

>> No.5241879

>>5241837
shu shu schizo, go finish your courses!!!

Why haven't mods banned this faggot yet?
>>5241866
The best help he could get is being banned from 4chan and seeking mental help.

>> No.5241881

>>5241843
He needs to get the fuck off 4chan before he goes completely schizo.

>> No.5241882 [DELETED] 

>>5241806
YOURE NOT ME
FOR WE DONT CRY

>> No.5241883

>>5241539
>>5241546
>>5241599
>>5241610
>>5241616
>>5241622
>>5241717
>>5241773
>>5241780
>>5241804
>>5241808
>>5241826
>>5241843
>>5241855
These are the posts OP needs to listen to.

>> No.5241889 [DELETED] 

>>5241808
CRABBY CRAB YOU WANT ME TO WASTE TIME
>>5241804
IF TALENT IS NOT REAL SHOW US YOUR ART
LETS CHECK IF ITS POSSIBLE TO IMPROVE
NO ONE WHO STARTED AS SHIT WENT ONT TO BECOME GOOD
>>5241837
YOURE LYING TO ME
PEOPLE LIED TO ME
WHATS EASIER TO SWALLOW?
IM DOING OK DESPITE BEING SHIT
OR IVE HAD NO PROGRESS BECAUSE IM SHIT
THERE IT IS THERE IT IS
THE TALENT IS NOT THERE

>> No.5241893

>>5241879
He HAS been banned many times before, but he always returns. Probably has a VPN like the paranoid schizo he is, or just resets his router IP.

>> No.5241894

>>5241837
shu shu schizo, go finish your courses!!!

>> No.5241896 [DELETED] 

>>5241837
SO YOU LAUGH AT US
THE AVIAN BEING TELLS ME TO GET REVENGE
I HATE YOUR KIND
PRIMATE

>> No.5241898

>>5241837
shu shu schizo, go finish your courses!!!

OP won't learn anything until he gets proper mental care

>> No.5241901 [DELETED] 

>>5241898
>SHILLS START TO CALL ME MENTALLY ILL ONCE I REALIZE I HAVE TELEPATHY
HOW CURIOUS
WHO IS PAYING YOU?
A

>> No.5241902

>>5241889
This is really sad. He should have reached out for help earlier so he wouldn’t be so paranoid that he couldn’t.

I’m not lying to you right now when I say you need to pick up the phone and get in touch with someone who can help you

>> No.5241905

>>5241901
If you have telepathy why can't you just read minds in how to become a good artist you fucking mental case
>>5241837
shu shu schizo, go finish your courses!!!

>> No.5241906 [DELETED] 

>>5241902
>t. shill

Who is paying you?
I'm not falling for your tricks
you actually don't want me to use my telepathy do you?

>> No.5241907

>>5241896
I hope that once you're feeling a bit better, you can look back at this and recognize that you can't leave your condition untreated.
Please, get help, or at least talk to someone about this irl

>> No.5241908

>>5241902
when we tell you to stop interacting with him it's not a crab. the guy will NOT listen to you under any circumstances. save your breath and take action

>> No.5241911 [DELETED] 

>Start to draw
>/ic/ is filled with shills gaslighting me into thinking im both ok and bad
>this keeps my telepathy suppressed
YOURE TRYING TO CONTROL MY ACTIONS BY COUNTER SHILLING
I KNOW IT I KNEW IT
IM TALENTLESS BUT WHO GIVES A SHIT
I CAN READ YOUR MIND
FEEL YOUR NOISE AROUND

>> No.5241914

>>5241896
We’re standing with you, OP. Now is the time to reach out for help.

You stayed up all nights. You must be tired. If you want to sleep you need to reach out for help from someone you trust

>> No.5241916 [DELETED] 

>>5241911
>11
DIVINE SIGN THAT IM THINKING CORRECTLY
>>5241914
>OH NO THEYRE WAKING UP QUICK SEDATE THEM
HMMMMM HOW CURIOUS THAT YOU ONLY BEGIN WITH THAT RIGHT NOW

>> No.5241918

>>5241908
>>5241914
This. Let him scream alone

>> No.5241925 [DELETED] 

>>5241837
LET ME LINK THIS
HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS
IF I WAS DOING OK PEOPLE WOULD HAVE NEVER TOLD ME
>>/ic/thread/5190763#p5190774
>>/ic/thread/5190763#p5191052
>>/ic/thread/5190763#p5191231
>>/ic/thread/5190763#p5191749
>>/ic/thread/5190763#p5192069
>>/ic/thread/5190763#p5193119 BRUTAL
>>/ic/thread/5190763#p5193148
>>/ic/thread/5190763#p5193152
>>/ic/thread/5190763#p5193165
>>/ic/thread/5190763#p5193186
>>/ic/thread/5227167#p5227222
>>/ic/thread/5227167#p5227289
>>/ic/thread/5227167#p5227451
>>/ic/thread/5227167#p5227933

>> No.5241929 [DELETED] 

>>5241837
https://i.warosu.org/ic/thread/S5239563#p5240259
https://i.warosu.org/ic/thread/S5239563#p5240258
https://i.warosu.org/ic/thread/S5239563#p5240311
https://i.warosu.org/ic/thread/S5239563#p5240306

>> No.5241931

>shu shu schizo, go finish your courses!!!

>> No.5241933 [DELETED] 

>>5241881
YOU DONT WANT ME WAKE UP
>>5241902
POST YOUR WORK
YOURE A SHILL WANTING ME TO PACIFY MYSELF INTO NOT REALIZING THE TRUTH
DRAWING WAS SMALL TIME
I HAVE ACTUAL MIND READING
THATS MY TALENT
>>5241905
SHUT THE FUCK UP

>> No.5241934

>>5241916
How long has this episode lasted?

It’s time to call someone stable. You need help.

I don’t care what the voices in your head say. You need to find someone to help you

>> No.5241938 [DELETED] 

>>5241933
>33
HOLY SHIT
I HAVE MIND POWERS
HOLY SHIT
THIS IS MY TALENT
I KNEW IT I HAVE TALENT I HAVE TALENT
YES
A DIVINE MESSAGE THAT I HAVE TALENT YES I HAVE TALENT FINALLY TALENT

>> No.5241940

>>5241925
Your art is doing okay, people have told you that.
It's your mental health that isn't doing so well and messing with your perception.
Once you get help, you'll get better too, I can promise you that

>> No.5241942

gotta be a troll.

shu shu schizo, go finish your courses!!!

>> No.5241944 [DELETED] 

>>5241940
https://i.warosu.org/ic/thread/S5239563#p5240317
https://i.warosu.org/ic/thread/S5239563#p5240319
https://i.warosu.org/ic/thread/S5239563#p5240323
https://i.warosu.org/ic/thread/S5239563#p5240327
https://i.warosu.org/ic/thread/S5239563#p5240329
https://i.warosu.org/ic/thread/S5239563#p5240332
SAVE YOUR TEARS
FOR ANOTHER DAY

>> No.5241945 [DELETED] 

i MUST EMAIL SOMEONE AN ARTIST AN AUTHORITY OF ART TO FORCE THEM INTO TELLING ME IF I SHOULD QUIT OR NOT
ONLY THAT WILL SETTLE
WHO SHOULD I EMAIL?
>>5241942
>>5241940
SAVE YOUR TEARS FOR ANOTHER DAY

>> No.5241946

>>5241938
You’re actually just hearing imaginary voices. They are coming from inside you

>> No.5241952 [DELETED] 

TELL ME HOW TO IMPROVE FOR REAL THIS TIME
AM I TALENTLESS?
>>5241946
COPE

>> No.5241955

>>5241944
I've seen these threads. There are always people who are just mean for the sake of it, but there are also people who have told you that your art isn't bad and/or better than their art.
Listen to >>5241883

>> No.5241956

>>5241945
Email an artist with schizophrenia. They will understand better than anyone what you’re going through and how to improve your art.

>> No.5241959

>>5241955
I completely agree with this

>> No.5241960

>>5241952
>TELL ME HOW TO IMPROVE FOR REAL THIS TIME
See a therapist.
>>>5241762
>You are lying to me
We aren't lying to you.
See a therapist

>> No.5241962 [DELETED] 

>>5241955
>>5241959
sAMEFAG?

>> No.5241964 [DELETED] 
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>>5241956
NO, I MUST EMAIL VILPPU
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH I MUST EMAIL AN AUTHORITY OF ART
ILL TELL THEM ABOUT THE GREAT AVIAN BEING TO ENSURE THEY COOPERATE
PEOPLE LIED TO ME TOLD ME I WAS DOING OK
I CALLED MYSELF TALENTLESS
AND THEY DID SO TOO
/BEG/ USED TO THINK I WAS A GOOD ARTIST PRETENDING TO BE A HORRIBLE ONE WITH MY REAL ART MOCKING PEOPLE
THEY CALLED MY ART HORRIBLE REVEALED THEIR TRUE OPINION
CHECK THIS
>>5241944
>>5241929
>>5241925

>> No.5241970

>>5241962
No. You’re really paranoid right now. It’s because of your schizophrenia. Reach out to someone you trust and let them know what’s going on

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5241972

>>5241929
>6 MONTHS 0 PROGRESS
>ITS POINTLESS FOR HIM TO CONTINUE
>QUIT
PIC RELATED

>> No.5241978

>>5241964
A lot of jerks said some pretty mean things, but they probably aren’t even that good.

>>5241883

>> No.5241983 [DELETED] 

>>5241978
YUASA TOLD ME PIC RELATED
CHECK THIS >>5241972
YUASA WAS ONE OF MY HEROES BUT HES TALENTED IM TALENTLESS

>> No.5241985
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5241985

>>5241962
>sAMEFAG?
No; get help please

>> No.5241989

>>5241972
It looks like you’re making great progress given the timescale. Six months is nothing. It literally takes decades

>> No.5241992

>>5241972
the larp continues

>> No.5241995

>>5241983
Reach out to someone you trust and let them know what’s going on

>> No.5241999 [DELETED] 

>>5241989
>>5241992
LIAR
CHECK THESE REPLIES
>>/ic/thread/5190763#p5193152
>>/ic/thread/5190763#p5193165
>>/ic/thread/5190763#p5193186
>>/ic/thread/5227167#p5227222
>>/ic/thread/5227167#p5227933

>> No.5242000

>>5241992
He’s been doing this for over 24 hours straight.

>> No.5242002

>>5241999
you are literally live action roleplaying a character from an anime

>> No.5242005 [DELETED] 

>>5241999
>999
IT'S OVER
DIVINE SIGN I SHOULD QUIT ART
I ALWAYS GET DIVINE SIGNS WHEN I TALK ABOUT QUITTING
THAT PLUS WHAT /X/ SAID TODAY
I KNEW IT
I WIN
IM TALENTLESS
I KNEW IT
YOU LIED TO ME

>> No.5242008

>>5242000
chief he's been doing it for longer than that kek, he's been doing it since October last year on various boards. the guy will not listen to you now and he will not listen to you ever, stop trying to help someone who doesn't want to be helped

>> No.5242011

>>5241999
The replies are from crabby assholes or people who just want to be mean for the sake of being mean.

Please reach out to someone you trust and let them know what’s going on.

>> No.5242012

>>5242000
I'm not surprised, insomnia is really common in people with schizophrenia, even comorbid.

>> No.5242013 [DELETED] 

>>5242011
LIES CHECK THIS

>> No.5242014 [DELETED] 
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5242014

>>5242013
>>5241396
I FAILED
IM TALENTLESS
THEYRE RIGHT
I ALWAYS FAIL
I AHVE NO TALENT AT ALL
ITS OVER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d6I4yWykD8

>> No.5242018

>>5242011
no they're from people sick of his bullshit. he asks for advice, gets it, doesn't take it, then spams this and other boards with his schizo bullshit. larp, troll, or real life mental case, the only thing he really needs is to gtfo 4chan.

>> No.5242019

>>5242013
It's the truth. Accept it and get help

>> No.5242023

>>5242008
I guess you’re right. It’s just really sad. He’s so young, too. I wish I could actually help him.

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5242024

>>5242018
LIES
IF I HAD TALENT OR AT LEAST OK YOU WOULDNT TELL ME THAT
BUT YOU DID YOU DID
SO YOU KNOW IM TALENTLESS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d6I4yWykD8

>> No.5242031

>>5242024
I didn't say anything about talent, but yeah the only talent you have is spamming your mental issues.

>> No.5242032

>>5242023
Same...

>> No.5242034

>>5242024
You have talent you just need to get your mental health under control to realize it.

Reach out to someone you can trust and let them know what’s going on

>> No.5242037 [DELETED] 
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5242037

>DOCTOR SAID I HAVE SCHIZOPHRENIA THEREFORE ITS REAL!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH NOO
PRIMATE COPE
>>5242031
TELL ME IM TALENTLESS
TELL ME I SHOULD QUIT
GO ON SAY IT
ADMIT IT
I KNOW YOU WANT TO
I KNOW YOU BELIEVE IT
GO ON SAY
IT
SAY IT
6 MONTHS WASTED
GO ON SAY IT
ACCEPT THAT NOT EVERYBODY CAN LEARN TO DRAW
IM PROOF TALENT IS REAL BY HAVING NEGATIVE TALENT
GO ON SAY IT
>>5242034
>You have talent
FUCKK OFF LIAR I DONT HAVE TALENT
IS SHOULD BE BETTER
STOP TALKING TO ME IF YOURE GOING TO LIE

>> No.5242041

>>5242031
>the only talent you have is spamming your mental issues.
I get it that you're frustrated, but there's no need to be mean. He/She really does need to get off 4chan tho.
>>5242024
Talk to people irl, spamming here won't help much

>> No.5242042

>>5242011
sad thing is, schizophrenics likely won't seek help even though they know they are mentally ill. even if they're forced on meds, the meds will work and they'll feel they don't need them and relapse into their illness. a friend of mine had schizophrenia and it manifested in his 20s and even with his support system of friends and family, he ended up flying across the country and was found dead in a reservoir.

>> No.5242044

>>5242031
I wrote the post he is replying to and he’s more than just a spammer. He is a real person having a mental health crisis. You’re just wrong. His work is legitimately good for the 6 month mark and people like you aren’t helping his mental health.

Just find someone you trust and call them. Let them know what’s going on

>> No.5242045

>>5242042
I'm sorry anon..

>> No.5242046

>>5242037
>TELL ME IM TALENTLESS
Talent doesn't even matter at this point, just see a doctor already

>> No.5242048

>>5242041
how is that mean? it's the truth. it's the only thing he does, he doesn't even draw, just spams this shit hours on end, not just in /ic/ but in /co/, /x/ and wherever.

>> No.5242049

>>5242041
>he/she
Just type they, dropout.

>> No.5242051
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5242051

>>5242042
Hey, aren’t you the same nigger that told me this story before? I’m not schizo nigger, different nigger, but you told me this story about your dead friend on a different thread and said I needed to get “help” whatever that means

>> No.5242053

>>5242042
God I hope that doesn’t happen to this guy

>> No.5242060

>>5242051
The same story can be told twice

>> No.5242068

>>5242051
I've shared the story before. He was a close friend since elementary but we grew apart when he went to the military, which probably exasperated his condition, but did provide resources to help. After a couple of episodes we thought he was doing okay, he had a girlfriend and then months later I got a call that he had passed.

>> No.5242069

>>5242049
Yeah, I do that out of bad habit but writing they does makes more sense. I just forget sometimes
>dropout
I know it's a coincidence but it's funny because it's true

>> No.5242070

>>5242068
TELL ME THAT I SHOULD GIVE UP!!! TELL ME!!! IM DRINKING MY PISS AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME, I DESERVE IT, I, TALENTLESS SHIT

>> No.5242074

>>5242068
I’m really sorry, anon. Mental health is really important. Thank you for sharing your story.

>> No.5242076

>>5242070
You won't be able to accomplish anything until you get your mind sorted out and that's facts.

>> No.5242079 [DELETED] 

>>5242070
Youre not me

>> No.5242087

>>5241041
>What makes me unable to improve?
Your mental illness.

>> No.5242088

>>5242070
You’re not talentless. From what I’ve seen from you you’re amply dedicated and show promise.

I won’t tell you that because it isn’t true.

Is there someone you can reach out to? You should let someone know what’s going on with you

>> No.5242092

>>5242079
Thanks for letting us know

>> No.5242109 [DELETED] 

>>5242092
>>5242088
>>5242087
>>5242076
>>5242074
Do you like Taylor Swift?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic8j13piAhQ

>> No.5242242
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5242242

Imagine shitposting for nearly 12 hrs straight went you could been drawing

>> No.5242245

>>5242242
It’s been over 24 hours

>literally 1000s of hours of free informative content available
>artist tools are more affordable and accessible than ever
>chooses to shitpost with crabs

If that’s not mental illness, I don’t know what is.

>> No.5242260

>>5242242
>>5242245
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

YOU DON'T KNOW ME, YOU DON'T!!!! SHUUUUUUUT UUUUUUUUUPPPPPP AND TELL ME WHY AM I TALANTLESS!?!?!?

>> No.5242261 [DELETED] 

>>5242260
Youre not me

>> No.5242264 [DELETED] 

>>5242242
I cant sleep my head hurts anon

>> No.5242269

>>5242261
>>5242264
>>5242260

Stop larping. I've read enough of this thread to know that this is not the right guy.

The dude is mia.

>> No.5242271

>>5242269
the tripcode tho

>> No.5242274

>>5242271
>>5242269
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK YOUUUUU

>> No.5242278

>>5242261
OOOGA BOOOGA you are me Iam you

>> No.5242279
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5242279

this guy has made countless threads on here.

as a lurker, i'm tired of seeing this shit.

jesus christ just get off 4chan and get professional meds you are literally a schizo, get that sorted out. develop urself as a person instead of refreshing on /ic/ screaming frantically.

most artists tend to be people with mental illness, you are no exception.

You can manage it and learn like others have , ur biggest downfalls is overconsumption of the internet and seeking validation from others instead of looking inward for answers.

If you don't listen to this post you will never make it, not just in art but in life as well.

You and only you are the source of all your misery and will be in a cycle of perpetual suffering, grow yourself as a person... learn more about neuroscience psychology and philosophy.

The more you grief like this the more ur brain will hardwire to this shit and the difficulty to undo this will outweigh the difficulties ur facing in trying to "make it".

ur brain is literally plastic, there's hope for you but the answers won't come from this board.

>> No.5242280

You are not me

>> No.5242282

/ic/.org/com/

>> No.5242284

>>5242279
REDDIT SPACING ARGGGGGGGGGGGGH

>> No.5242285

>>5242264
Sorry to hear that...
As I said, insomnia is common in people with schizophrenia, it's actually one of the early warning signs. I haven't slept well in a year and I was worried I might get schizophrenia, but in my case it's actually just anxiety and depression...
I hope you'll be able to fall asleep soon and feel better after getting some rest!

>> No.5242290

Fastest thread in the board
bravo

>> No.5242306

Can the mods PLEASE ban this retard already?

>> No.5242324

>>5242306
FECAL MATTER IN MY MOUTH

>> No.5242326

>>5242306
At this point I think we should take it to >>>/qa/
There is a severe lack of mods here

>> No.5242341

Oh wait, I remember you!, I'm just gonna paraphrase what I said on your last thread

"Fuck off and draw attention seeker"

>> No.5242363

>>5241041
ive been drawing for 4 years and ive barely improved
i have no talent so it will easily take me 10 years or more to get at a mediocre level
im not in a rush, im already 27 years old

>> No.5242397

>>5241798
This just solidified my opinion that you're a troll.

>> No.5242404

>>5241837
Shu Shu Schizo, go finish your courses!!!

>> No.5242441

>>5242397
This is a person that is pretending to be the dude just to fuck with him. It's pretty dumb.

>> No.5242458

>>5241837
shu shu schizo, go finish your courses

>> No.5242463

>>5241041
>What makes me unable to improve?
>19 years old
that is your answer

>> No.5242495

>>5242326
Best advice in this shitheap thread

shu shu schizo, go finish your courses

>> No.5242520 [DELETED] 

>>5242495
>tablet schizo
Ok
>pixel schizo
Ok
>month schizo
>suddenly I have standards now

>> No.5242522

>>5242520
They don't cause as much shit as him. He is fucking obnoxious

>> No.5242523

>>5241837
shu shu schizo, go finish your courses!!!

>> No.5242525

>>5242520
They stay in their containment threads. He shitposts all over this and other boards.

>> No.5242538

>>5241041
>6 months
I started drawing at 19, got discouraged a year later, and after another year I started drawing again. And then things only really clicked in 2018 when I was 23. It can take a great deal of time if you’re self-taught, it’s simply too early for you to quit

>> No.5242548

>>5241837
shu shu schizo, go finish your courses.
fuck u anon

>> No.5242662

>>5241837
shu shu schizo go finish your courses

>> No.5242683

you know, schizo anon, i just watched ping pong. it's been on my list for a while since i loved the tekkonkinkreet-esque art style and you reminded me

it's amazing to me how you managed to miss the whole point of it. it seems to me, like with the courses, you gave up halfway through

so shu shu, schizo, go finish your anime, and after that, go finish your fucking courses

>> No.5242700

>>5242683
He only hears what he wants to he’s delusional.

shu shu schizo go finish your courses!!!

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5242793

>>5242042
>the meds will work and they'll feel they don't need them and relapse into their illness.


that makes it so scary. i think there's someone im related to like that. they say they feel like they don't need it. but they take it anyway because they dont want their family to worry

makes me worry if i might get it too.

>> No.5242828

>>5242793
>makes me worry if i might get it too.
Staying on 4chan won't help if anything. This place breeds schizos

>> No.5242831

>>5242828
How is that even possible

>> No.5242878

>>5242828
I only use ic. this place seems sane for the most part.

>> No.5242934

>>5242793
not worth worrying about shit you can't control desu
and hey, now you know
if you ever do take meds and eventually forget what life was like without them, you'll know you should stay on them anyways

>> No.5242975

6 months isnt a lot of time for anyone at all for starters, but if you're not taking the time to observe and think for yourself how you could apply what you're grinding either as you do it or reflect afterwards, yeah no shit you're not improving very fast. but again, seriously, its only been half a year. half. of ONE year

>> No.5242981

>>5241041
If youre a beg, i dont recommend being here. They'll only drag you down

>> No.5243053

>>5241041
>>grind my fundies
>>barely improving

That's pretty much expected. "Grinding fundies" only makes you good at "grinding fundies". In actual art education, they don't "grind fundies", they spend maybe a week or two before moving up to the next technique.

In a real drawing course, you would be moving on to intermediate topics after 6 months - consider that a beginning drawing class is 4-5 months, with 6-8 classroom hours a week, and about the same in outside classroom work.

After six months you should be fusing the fundamentals into a more cohesive understanding and using that to complete more finished pieces. expanding into more elaborate compositions, challenges like texture and lighting, and completing finished pieces.

But all you've done in 6 months is get better at "grinding" the same things over and over. You don't have a teacher to say "You're ready for the next step, try this: ". This is the /ic failure loop, thinking spending six months or in some cases years doing the same things over and over that successful art students spend maybe a week on.

Stop "grinding", and start drawing.

>> No.5243054

>>5241111
Oh, you're trolling. Never mind.

>> No.5243077

>>5242934
you're right anon. that makes me feel better.
and I know to avoid what they did to have their psychotic episode

>> No.5243111

>>5241837
shu shu schizo, go finish your courses!!!

>> No.5243118

>>5243053
>In actual art education, they don't "grind fundies", they spend maybe a week or two before moving up to the next technique.
>In a real drawing course, you would be moving on to intermediate topics after 6 months - consider that a beginning drawing class is 4-5 months, with 6-8 classroom hours a week, and about the same in outside classroom work.
Are you talking about art colleges? Because at trade school they made us grind fundies for 2 years before starting any digital courses or actual creative work. We still did fundies the last of the 2 years, however it was less and less often as individual students mastered them they were no longer required to do those and transitioned to full creative work for portfolios, or were starting to take time off of school for internships.

>> No.5243122

>>5243118
I don't believe you. Name the school, so I can look at the curriculum for the first two years.

>> No.5243254

>>5243122
are you a brainlet or a permabeg? I'm not that anon but florence academy of arts does this and dozens of arteliers in the US copied their model. it looks like the russian academies are the same.

>> No.5243258

>>5243122
>>5243118
my friend went to cal arts and guess what she does in the 3 years since graduating? works in retail.

>> No.5243351

>>5243258
Must be an actual NGMI then

>> No.5243456

>>5243258
I have a friend that went to calarts and she is an animator working her ass off in the industry. I guess your friend just didn't have the work ethic for it (or the personality, maybe nobody wants to hire her because of that).

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5243461

>>5243122
I'll just show you the curriculum. Looks like they changed CGRAPH 1 to year 2, kids were probably bitching about not getting to do it sooner, but it's your standard /beg/ level photoshop course.

Also, while painting is listed in both years 1 and 2, they do not let you paint until you give satisfactory results in your graphite drawings. All paintings and graphites in these years are still lifes and eventually portraits if you prove your skill with still lifes.

>> No.5244230

Is he alive?

>> No.5244234

>>5244230
I’m hoping someone found him babbling about the “avian feeling” and he is now in a mental hospital. Either that or he got so paranoid he hit the road. Another option is that the mods actually found a way to ban him but idk.

I hope he’s safe

>> No.5244249

>>5244234
Samel :(

>> No.5244250

>>5243053
So what should be doing? Which courses? Which resources?
As someone with a similar issue, do you think he can make it or not?

>> No.5244255

I get the feeling this schizo it's actually a woman

>> No.5244280

>>5244255
Would that change anything?
Besides anons simping for her, that is

>> No.5244296

>>5244280
If schizo is a woman I would make her my gf and teach her how to paint like James and Jeanette Gurney

>> No.5244316

>>5244296
Don't stick your dick in crazy

>> No.5244343

>>5244255
Schizophrenia is more common in men and he draws like a guy, too. Quick and impulsive sketches.

I would bet money that they are a dude

>> No.5244347

>>5244343
If it’s the same schizo that was avatarfagging with Bateman it’s definitely a dude

>> No.5244358

>>5244347
This is the Akechifag/Taylor Swift avatarfag

>> No.5244361

>>5244358
Yeah. Also The Weeknd

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5244366

>tfw schizo but still improving and making gains

THE WEAK SHALL PERISH

>> No.5244374

So what should this schizo do?
Is he delusional about his improvement?

>> No.5244383

>>5244374
He should get the fuck off 4chan and into the psych ward before he murders his family in their sleep

>> No.5244396

1 To be good at something you have to be bad at it MANY times to learn from your mistakes and progress instead of looking at the negative (the same feeling when you lose in a video game: you don't want to lose but you don't just do it)

2 If you want to be good at drawing, precisely what has given these artists that spark is the act of drawing. It is not that just by saying "Ju $ T drawuuhhh and Yu Wil ve gooood" but it is the engine of a cartoonist to progress. Do I advise you to get into the thread of books so that you can see the concepts of gesture, perspective, anatomy or see proko to know a basic knowledge of drawing

3 In 4 months you cannot be an artist of 20 years of progress. The advice I would give you on that is not to rush, just enjoy your progress (Also if it is any consolation, every artist has suffered stress similar to yours)

4. If you want to be a great cartoonist, the main advice is to face your fear of failure. As a habit, I recommend that with a marker that does not erase, that you draw on an A4 sheet so that you learn from failure

>> No.5244399

>>5241837
This is fucking horrible and funny at the same time

Shu shu schizo, go finish your courses!!!

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5244402

>>5244396
>>5241041

>> No.5244405

>>5244396
Imagine typing all this out just for the schizo to ignore it and continue whining about no one helping him. This is why everyone grows to hate him eventually. He’s a narcissist and negative attention is as good as positive to him.

>> No.5244422

>>5244396
Yeah, what this anon said >>5244405 - if the guy ever comes back (he was just banned again I think?) don't bother giving him any sort of art advice, at this point he needs psychiatric help not loomis.

>> No.5244429

>>5244422
Last time he was banned mods deleted his thread and posts on /ic/ and /co/. Hopefully he caused enough of a ruckus shitting and pissing himself IRL that his family took notice and committed him.

>> No.5244447

>>5241128
Anon, you are one of the most retarded dumbfucks I have ever witnessed.

>> No.5245142

Art wise, is there anything wrong with those drawings?
I'm also /beg/ and I also feel like I'm just wasting my time

>> No.5245152

>>5245142
No, what’s wrong is not being able to gauge your own progress and blaming others when you refuse to follow the advice you’ve solicited.

>> No.5245155

>>5245142
Nothing wrong with them for a /beg/
He ruined it all himself

>> No.5245167

>>5245152
I'm not them, I just got a e-crush on the schizo!
I think they might be right though, they should be better already
If only I knew enough about art to give them the right course
>>5245155
I'm not so sure about that anon! Right now there is another poster on /beg/, his KTD exercises are fantastic, unlike our friend here.
Shit, they might be right about talent.

>> No.5245184

Why? Why such rampant mental illness is even allowed here? Even if this one is larping, where is the sense in all of this? Empty words for a stupid schizo who at this rytm will never get better, until the day he decides to become a Hero.

>> No.5245194

>>5245184
Will never get better? So people lied to them?
What is it that prevents this anon from improving? Their baseline seems to be below others?
I think they might be right, talent is real.
What do you say?

>> No.5245200
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>>5244347
FUCK YOU NIGGER, DON’T COMPARE ME TO THIS AUTISTIC SCHIZO, I’M A HUNDRED TIMES BETTER THAN HIM WHIHC IS WHY I DON’T GO SCREECHING ABOUT BEING NGMI ON THIS BOARD 24/7

>> No.5245205

>>5245194
is this the other person from the DID
they dont improve because they don't try hard enough and quit all their courses halfway
Go seek a mental health professional

>> No.5245214

>>5245194
Don't care about talent and by getting better i meant dealing with whatever mental illness he has and not using 4chan as a coping mechanism for it. Is not about drawing anymore, never was.

>> No.5245225

>>5245167
Unironically the right course for him is to get help and take his godamn meds. Mental illness doesn't lead to improvement in art, in fact it tends to detract from it.
Exceptions being the obssessive/euphoric types of mentail illness, like certain types of autism and the mania phase of bipolar disorder, but schizo-chan claimed to have anhedonia so whatever he's got going on is neither of these.

>> No.5245236

>>5245225
>>5245214
>>5245205
They are fully convinced about baseline talent, they won't listen to anything else unless we can make a good case.
Therapy is out of the question, can't happen.
They got broken into what you see, it just keeps happening, I want to help them but I just don't know what to do.
>>5245225
The total mental conditions, some of those can't ever get fixed, it has to happen either way.
If they can be good at art they will just stop what they have been doing, all the whining, all of it, goes away, they just can't as far as I've been told.

>> No.5245238

>>5243258
did she buy her way in? or is the program just a bunch of bullshit?

>> No.5245240

>>5245200
CHECK EM

>> No.5245255

>>5245167
Are you a girl?

>> No.5245256

>>5245255
Are you a retard?

>> No.5245318
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[ERROR]

>>5241041
listen, im not good either
i've been in and out my art fase for the past 4 years. i mostly scribble and i've been practicing fundies for what a week or 2 total?
i dont want to work in this industry, art it's just an hobby. if you are not like me and you want to make great stuff here some advices that help me sometimes:
-change the way you sketch (cirlcles and boxes can go fuck themself for me, use triangles, ovals, organic shapes and the add a contour line or build your subject from that)
-use different techniques and find what fits you (i.e. i cant draw a portrait starting from a sfere but i can do it measuring and drawing the outline of the face first)
-COPY!COPY!COPY! just like a child! you dont know how to draw a nose? copy what other did and with some anatomical knowledge you'll get it right (you'll eventually be able to absorb a style and modify it)
-and last but not least, OBSERVE, before even thinking to draw something observ it: see how light and shadows work together, how lines flow in each other

this is something i've drawn today just because i felt down, again, and wanted to distract myself. i know, it's not great but it feels like a huge step forward for me (it took about 2.5h also the blue lines are mistakes i've noticed overlapping the pic and the draw)
tl;dr i suck at this therefore dont listen to me

>> No.5245321

>>5245318
hope it helps even a little bit

>> No.5245515

>>5245318
See >>5244405

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5245608

>>5241041
>>month 1 2 and 3
>>month 4

This takes years anon. Why are you measuring in months? This isn't a relationship with a roastie, art is a lifelong commitment.

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5245677

>>5241041
Is this meant to be a joke thread?

If not, shut up kid, it takes years and years to get good, and not everyone advances at the same rate as one another...I've spent 30-odd years dabbling with drawing, and there's still a myriad of things I could learn and attempt to master, but I don't get down in the dumps about it, it's a good thing, it means I'll always be interested and engaged in this hobby...six fucking months...I've spent six months or more on one fucking drawing! I've come back to a drawing, years later, and finished it! The drawing I'll post as an example, sat on the back burner for 4 years, till I decided to complete it.

>> No.5245768

Hope he's ok

>> No.5245867

>>5242831
It isn't.
You're really far more likely to develop anxiety and hypochondria about schizophrenia than actually getting schizophrenia.

>> No.5245872

>>5242828
It doesn't exactly breed schizos, but it certainly attracts them and worsens their condition. This place easily worsens your mental health in general though

>> No.5245880

>>5245872
>This place easily worsens your mental health in general though
It kept me an incel longer than I would have been otherwise, yeah. I still come to /ic/ for the ressources and some other boards for pictures but it is really a cesspoll

>> No.5246086

>>5245608
They started drawing on late August 2020 or so it seems. They nade it known to me that their main worry is time, time, progress and "baseline talent"
They have posted over and over about feeling they should be better.
>>5245677
I like it!
Cool guy, is he a boxer?
>>5245318
I'll write it down for them, thank you one of their doubts seems to be not really daring or knowing how to "break down shapes"

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5246147

>>5246086
The character is a martial artist, so close enough.

Another picture that sat around forever till it was done, and I didn't even like it toward the end, I just finished out of stubbornness..OP you are tripping if you think you are gonna see leaps and bounds of progress in mere months.

>> No.5246367

>>5245515
i can only hope
maybe someone else can get something good out of my post

>> No.5246410

>>5241837
shu shu schizo, go finish your courses!!!

>> No.5246788

bump

>> No.5246836 [DELETED] 

>>5246788
Why bump this?

>> No.5247475

>>5241056
Your art is far superior to my ability. Who is 4chan to tell you not to do as you want. Drawing is a skill that takes many years to master. Youll improve. I played guitar for 3 years before I could even sniff at decent background noise.

>> No.5247643

>>5246788
This is even dumber than the schitzo comments. SAGE

>> No.5247746

Turns out he's still alive

>>5247333
>>5247366
>>5247445
>>5247446
>>5247451

And as you can see by the last 3 posts he doesn't give a shit at your advice. No matter how well-written your posts are, he thinks people only insult him.
It's pointless. Just get 4chanX and filter his pictures as some anon suggested

>> No.5247991 [DELETED] 

>>5247746
But they only insult me
You praised that other guy not only to spite me but also because NO ONE EVER DID PRAISE ME
BECAUSE I LACK TALENT
ADMIT IT
GO ON SAY IT

>> No.5248006

Imagine if schizo anon stays here forever.
He will still be posting here in 5 years, spamming his shitty drawings and asking newfags if he has talent.
Meanwhile we will all have moved on, some of us with decent drawing skills while he keeps on wasting his life.

Makes me want to work on my art harder desu

>> No.5248013 [DELETED] 

>>5248006
Oh come on, already daydreaming about your art job? get off your high horse, go on try, you won't get what you want

>> No.5248019

>>5248013
I'm only drawing for my family and friends but I want to get decent, that's all.
I'm sorry you won't reach your dreams, I will

>> No.5248022

>>5248019
Based and gmi

>> No.5248023 [DELETED] 

>>5248019
Oh so you're already coping? Haha.
>I never wanted more nope
Lmao, at least you know you can't do more, honorable.
Tell me, /ic/ never helped me, only called me talentless, why?
Talent is real anon
>>5248022
And another bastard shows up
/ic/ is nothing but a social ckub patting themselves in the back for their non existent attitude, peak scorned woman behavior

>> No.5248084

>>5241041
You're 19 and only have done 6 months of drawing. It's definitely not too late for you. Don't give into the 4chan brand of hostile "kys" negativity. Be better.

>> No.5248137

>>5248084
Read the the thread and you'll understand

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5248390

>>5241837

>> No.5248424

>>5241041
kys if you even take the "advice" from 4chan seriously.

>> No.5248425

Coom self promotion general gets deleted and mods leave this thread up

>> No.5248981

>>5241041
learn how to learn
its a real thing
you can learn multiple things

>> No.5249867

>>5245880
Image boards have made me an incel too. I started using them at the end of highschool and it alienate me from everyone else. I would of definitely been able to get a gf if it wasn't for the weird mental quirks these places give you. I finally am about to get a job were I'm not only working with old boomer men, so hopefully I can get some.

>> No.5249869

>>5245872
I've been here for a long time and I'm fine. This place for sure makes schizos worse though

>> No.5249870

>>5249867
Godspeed anon

>> No.5250387

>>5241041
>others are better than me
duh, art isn't a competition. it's a selfish, individual pursuit. tune others out.
>6 months wasted
6 months? dude, you gotta be ready to draw the rest of your life. don't bother if you're not passionate
>can't improve
improve your attitude. your art will follow

>> No.5250441

>>5245236
hi schizo. stop pretending to be a sympathetic outsider

>> No.5250671

>>5241041
The drawings you have posted show potential. Also, art is a lifelong journey. It isn't a competition, there is no finish line, learn to enjoy the process. Six months of drawing is like two months of getting /fit/. Be patient.

>> No.5250753

>>5241041
who made OP image? This is cool rainworld fanart, miro birds piss me off man they take like eight stabs to kill

>> No.5251652

>>5250441
I swear, lol

>> No.5252839

Give up and find another career

>> No.5252845

five days and still feeding the troll. Never chance /ic/

>> No.5252931

>>5241041
>40
>Depression and anxiety despite having a decent life otherwise
>drawing, music and video my whole life but in a totally retarded way
>finally decide to actually learn online and take advice
>levekl up quickly for one year or so, be happy
>never actually finish anything
>give up
>dig myself in a hole for a month or 2
>"what the hell, mihght as well give up like everyone and just enjoy other's creations"
>end up feeling the need to create again
> start another of my hobbies again, navigating between music and drawing
>repeat, each year older, with nothing to show

I don't even get how anyone can lose so much time. And now of course I'm panicking more and more stuck between everything I want to achieve and consume, afraid of not having enough time.

>> No.5252997

>>5241837
Shu shu schizo, go finish your courses

>> No.5253549

>>5252931
Its ok anon, I believe in you.
We're all going to make it.