Vent Thread

[Anonymous No.5195264]

Lets grind boxes together

[Anonymous No.5195280]

I'm going to C-Chile for valentines d-day to give you my my...my howmemmmade cookies!! They'e yummy I p-promise!

[Anonymous No.5195287]

>>5195280
You are going to a country at the edge of the abyss.

[Anonymous No.5195288]

>>5195264
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7OVvBilvcs
>and the world's gonna know your name

[Anonymous No.5195294]

>>5195287
Oh I didn’t realize how close it is to touching Antarctica. That’s so cool!

[Anonymous No.5195303]

/vent/ threads are for communists.

[Anonymous No.5195306]

>>5195303
coom threads are for capitalist.

[Anonymous No.5195315]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8VYWazR5mE
The music videos is driving me crazy so many anatomy errors

[Anonymous No.5195317]

>>5195315
why dont you do a super autistic breakdown of each error then post it in their comments and see if they neck themselves.

[Anonymous No.5195319]

>>5195317
I'm not that much of a crab

[Anonymous No.5195323]

>slept the whole day away

[Anonymous No.5195333]

>>5195323
draw the whole night away

[Anonymous No.5195353]

>>5195333
Why are drawing nights so comfy?

[Anonymous No.5195362]

>>5195264
>agree to collaborate on game
>everyone pitches their ideas
>one of my ideas is an idle game but i vote for the sidescroller cause it'll be easy to make
>everyone votes for the roguelike with the huge design document
>suggest that we make a demo of it first and build upon the demo overtime
>"this is gonna take a year so we're making a clicker game instead."
>clicker game design doc is nothing like my idle game or any of the other ideas anyone wanted
>suddenly lose all motivation
>now waiting to see if they will make a demo cause i'm not gonna starting art if they keep changing their minds

[Anonymous No.5195363]

>>5195323
take a cold shower in the morning
ez

[Anonymous No.5195376]

i want art friends that share my tastes but they either
1. don't exist
2. would think i draw too shitty to be interested in me
3. would think i'm an unbearable person one way or another
i can't motivate myself to do much of anything and i'd think that having friends to encourage me and improve with me would be cool but........

[Anonymous No.5195377]

>draw everyday for multiple hours on end
>vague goal of "getting better"
>no clue if it'll actually work out in the end
>no clue if it'll be better in a month or two
>no way to tell if people actually like my art
>...
>look at amazing art and knowing I'll never be able to draw like that
>lose all motivation and hope, but still draw anyway
I hope my art becomes good enough to not feel ashamed of it

[Anonymous No.5195387]

i miss all my vidya friends i had through all these years, talking about games, vidya tech, nigger hate , how much do we suck at playing, those 2 in the morning calls to do some raids,in comparison with art is way too lonely, i literally don't talk to no one other than asking some technical stuff about art here which most of the time gets ignored.

>tfw no art frenz

[Anonymous No.5195395]

Masturbate all day and grind loomis

[Anonymous No.5195400]

>>5195387
We are your frens

[Anonymous No.5195410]

I wish more /int/ anons would come redline/help in the /beg/ threads. it's mostly the blind leading the blind there. or worse, no one sees any flaws so no one improves

[Anonymous No.5195415]

>>5195410
It's a dumpster ground yeah. I genuinely hate vague critique. Comment on exactly what you think seems wrong and how it might be improved, not "x looks shit"

[Anonymous No.5195419]

>>5195400
Also your enemies, who are also your friends.

[Anonymous No.5195426]

>>5195415
>vague critique
>"it's shit"
god I fucking hate this. it's usually just a fag trying to feel smart but not knowing really what the fuck they're on about

[Anonymous No.5195487]

Don't have anything to vent about today.
I'm glad I can still get some daily practice squeezed into my schedule, despite having to study for exams.

[Anonymous No.5195618]

>>5195426
vague critique is only decent if it leads to resources
a lot of people say shit but never guide

[Anonymous No.5195746]

I want to change community but I feel out of place and deeply uncomfortable wherever I go. Every time I crawl back into self-imposed isolation. I have so many issues to sort I don't know where to start.

[Anonymous No.5195771]

>>5195315
lol, who fucking cares. It sucks, but it's not because of shitty anatomy.

[Anonymous No.5195871]

I think I'm going to make myself an imaginary friend to help me cope with loneliness and give me the motivation to do all the things I've been avoiding in my life

[Anonymous No.5195905]

i just want a japanese writer to make japanese style comics with please understand.

[Anonymous No.5195952]

>>5195376
pyt(post your tastes)

[Anonymous No.5195988]

I fucking hate you

[Anonymous No.5196008]

>>5195410
/begs/ don't deserve the help most times because they either don't listen and/or argue against the advice, or their not at the point where any advice would do them any good.

[Anonymous No.5196021]

I feel like i am stagnating

[Anonymous No.5196027]

I want to marry you.

[Anonymous No.5196031]

>>5195264
I think im jealous that another has alot more followers then me... I put in as much effort as this other artist does, but I guess i understand why this artist how a good sizeable amount of followers on IG, he makes art 100% digital while I draw traditional and color digital so it could take me longer, i just wish i had as much as he does

[Anonymous No.5196032]

>>5196031
That’s like being jealous of someone who has 5000 friends on Facebook.

[Anonymous No.5196055]

>>5195410
I try and just get screeched at by people telling me to get the fuck out of /beg/, and sometimes by the /beg/ I'm critiquing saying "well its my style" or "I dont want fundies I want tutorials". I give advice without redlines, they tell me pyw, I post it, and then they ignore me. It's all so tiring, man. Sometimes we can't take all the /beg/ autism.

[Anonymous No.5196057]

My mom said if a boy hates me they actually like me. Was she telling the truth?

[Anonymous No.5196074]

>>5196057
mothers always knows best

[Anonymous No.5196077]

>>5195415
99% of the people who make posts like that don’t have the skills to give more targeted critique.
/ic/ has a severe shortage of people who can actually draw, and the number of people who can draw and are actually willing to help is even smaller.

[Anonymous No.5196081]

>>5196055
>”well it’s my style”
I have unironically never seen a single person on /ic/ say this.
>”I don’t want fundies”
If you just tell people “fundies” without giving people targeted critique like “you made the hands too small, a fully outstretched hand should be big enough to cover the face” then you’re not actually helping.

[Anonymous No.5196087]

>>5195871
At one point I pretended to have a succubus girlfriend and I was so deep in the larp that I would imagine her threatening to steal my life energy if I don't draw.
I need antipsychotics probably.

[Anonymous No.5196161]

These streamers who pump out high quality illustrations in just a few hours and then play video games the rest of the stream make me mad jealous at their flexing.

[Anonymous No.5196163]

>>5196161
They probably have a decade or more of practice. A lifetime of practice even, since a lot of those streamers have probably been drawing for as long as they can remember.

[Anonymous No.5196167]

>>5196161
Just the result of having talent

[Anonymous No.5196170]

It's too late for me anyway so I shouldn't even bother.

[Anonymous No.5196175]

>>5196163
>probably
>probably
If you are playing videogames at all you are not old enough to have a lifetime of anything

[Anonymous No.5196178]

Why do crabs even exist on ic?
If talent is real and you lack it then why the fuck would you browse /ic/?
And if you had talent, why not draw instead of crab?

[Anonymous No.5196182]

>>5196178
If mirrors aren't real, how could you lack it

[Anonymous No.5196185]

>>5196175
So this person I'm watching passively
https://www.twitch.tv/lalakaru
and blog https://twitter.com/zukuaoi
I wonder how "old" they are. What if they're the same age as me and their art already looks like...well..top grade work.

What am I doing with my life.

[Anonymous No.5196193]

>>5196185
21, picked up art at 18

[Anonymous No.5196212]

I haven't felt any strong hits of happiness in a long while, it's always "meh" at best.
It's gotten worse in the past 5 years
There isn't anything particularly bad about my life. I don't know why this is happening.

I don't know if I can last another 5 years of this.

[Anonymous No.5196213]

>japanese girl keeps motivating me with weird shit like cosplaying as my ocs and asking to draw with me
b-bros wtf is going on

[Anonymous No.5196221]

>>5196193
Talent is real.

[Anonymous No.5196228]

>>5196212
If you're going to feel like shit then you might as well do something. Probably more romantic to feel depressed while doing something virtuous , rather than to feel depressed while jerking off and watching youtube videos.

[Anonymous No.5196232]

>>5195871
I always wanted a Gatebox companion but my lack of nipponese held me back

[Anonymous No.5196242]

>>5196232

Literally what Love Plus was about. Except Konami still hasn't released the mobile game last I checked.

[Anonymous No.5196244]

>>5196242
wait they did

https://www.siliconera.com/loveplus-every-is-ending-service-on-august-5-2020/

What the fuck is wrong with this company.

[Anonymous No.5196248]

>>5196221
Talent is very real. Talent by itself doesn't mean you will conjure amazing art without training, however talent makes the difference between having to practice 2 years instead of 20.

The problem is the talented person actually thinks applying themselves for 2 years of drawing maybe once or twice per week and then playing videogames or going to parties constitutes hard work, and are also oblivious of being dettached of talent because its a part of themselves deeply rooted so they actually think talent was a lie and that its all the result of their so called hard work.

So when someone has been trying for a decade and still failing hard, talented people are quick to dismiss the person as someone who wasn't trying hard enough, doesn't really want it and extremely lazy, despite the untalented person putting 100 more work every day.

It gets even worse, you cannot guess if someone has talent, only way to find out is actually putting the work, so only way to find out if you have it or not is getting at it really hard. You will probably find the answer 2 or 3 years from then.

[Anonymous No.5196279]

>>5195746
Can you afford to go to therapy? If not, try looking up courses or books on Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. The feeling of not belonging anywhere is often rooted in childhood issues.

[Anonymous No.5196291]

>>5196232
I want more of a spiritual thing.

[Anonymous No.5196294]

>>5196175
Oh right I’m sorry, they were born with talent and you weren’t, that’s why they do great illustrations in an hour and you’re begging for feedback on your Loomis heads in /beg/, you should just leave /ic/ and give up on drawing because you will never ever improve.

[Anonymous No.5196295]

>>5196178
Misery loves company. People who gave up because it was too hard want to see other people fail as well.

[Anonymous No.5196301]

>>5196294
why are you so mean all the time

[Anonymous No.5196308]

>>5196294
>that’s why they do great illustrations in an hour and you’re begging for feedback on your Loomis heads in /beg/
How is /beg/ doing loomis and asking for feedback a bad thing exactly? You fucking crabs are insufferable

[Anonymous No.5196314]

>>5196279
>Can you afford to go to therapy?
No. I had a horrible childhood, so probably. I have read up a lot and I understand what's going on in my head a bit. It's just that I am so far gone that I need people with some help and patience coming my way, but these things are finite and precious. Everything looks so cold, fake and opportunistic now, like a jungle, and I have lost faith in people to act in a way that's not predatory.
Being on /ic/ is probably making the situation worse but it still feels safer than the big bad world out there. I was not made for a world with social media, I don't have thick enough skin and I don't like to be public.
I miss people who were close to me in what feels like a lifetime ago, but they've all moved on while I dealt with these impossible problems.

[Anonymous No.5196315]

>>5196301
I was trying to encourage the Anon who was discouraged by the streamers, and someone gave me a smart ass answer so I gave them a smart ass answer back.

[Anonymous No.5196324]

>>5196315
>smart
None of you were smart, problem is you defaulted to crabbing harder, making you the biggest moron

[Anonymous No.5196328]

>>5196324
>>5196324
>>5196324
AND YOURE EVEN A BIGGER MEANIE

Why is /ic/ so full of bullies? Can't we all just get along?

[Anonymous No.5196333]

>>5195264
I heard that enjoying the process make you learn more effectively.
But how do you do that?
I feel like it was easier when I had no theorical knowledge/inspiration or didn't care about other people works,that being a long time ago.
No rarelly enjoy drawing like before,I still like the process sometimes but having to start from zero by learning something new become just harder.

[Anonymous No.5196332]

How the fuck do they just turn on the OBS recorder and know what to draw?

[Anonymous No.5196341]

>>5196332
Asian jeans, you would think by now you would spot that they always just happen to be Asian

[Anonymous No.5196344]

>>5196341
AAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH FUKCKAG

[Anonymous No.5196353]

>>5196333
I’ve suffered through 2 years of mostly hating drawing but I’m finally getting to the point where I sometimes naturally choose to draw instead of doing other things and I don’t have to force myself every time I sit down to draw now. The process gets more enjoyable as you get better at it and you can be confident that you will get at least some sort of result for your efforts, instead of just flailing about aimlessly with nothing to show for you. My advice would be to just grit your teeth and keep plowing through for as long as it takes. It DOES get better, if you have the willpower to see it through.

[Anonymous No.5196356]

Drawing humans and cars is hard. :(
I understand why so many people are focused on humans/vehicules.

[Anonymous No.5196360]

>>5196332
have everything premade before you start... if you look at the finished piece offscreen it's easy to redo it

[Anonymous No.5196363]

>>5196360
So all he's doing is performing like a magic show? Purely entertainment?

[Anonymous No.5196369]

>>5196356
hmmm

[Anonymous No.5196370]

>>5196360
>every artist who streams draws everything twice and copies offscreen!
We are reaching levels of copium which shouldn't even be possible.

[Anonymous No.5196374]

>>5196363
I don't know but it helps a lot to have preparatory work if you want to look the best you can in those two hours of streaming and finish things fast.

[Anonymous No.5196377]

>>5196370
Technically it makes sense. You don't want to look like a moron live. Everything is prepared. If you're drawing comics live you already have the storyboard, script and draft. The rest is your talent.

Bob ross did a painting before getting on camera to do a second version. And if these guys can pump out good shit in 2 to 3 hours then doing a pre drawing is nothing to them.

[Anonymous No.5196393]

>>5196377
>Technically it makes sense.
Lots of people do this when they post their process. Most start off with lineart already done and that's the part with the most decision making involved. Color flats and anime cel shading don't even take that long to begin with and there are premade filters that cover a lot of the things they do like adding a warmer gradient to shadows.

[Anonymous No.5196418]

>>5196377
It really doesn't when you think about it.

If you pay attention art streamers have very low viewership count compared to the attention numbers they gather. (Like for instance 300k followers gathering only 100 viewers).

These are people who make their living out of art, and the amount of exposure, profit, attention and even art gains they get are directly correlated with the amount of art they do.

If you wanna showcase your process in a prepared way, you record it and post the video.

I understand they might have some sort of prep work such as references prepared beforehand, but drawing something completely just to draw it again live apparently from nothing just to stroke your ego to 100 people when you could very well do the same by just finishing the first one once doesn't make much sense at all.

[Anonymous No.5196430]

>>5196377
You severly overestimate how hard it is to draw generic anime bitch after you drew it thousands times before, hint: it's not
>inb4 pyw
no

[Anonymous No.5196444]

>>5196430
pyag (post your anime girl)

[Anonymous No.5196460]

>>5196418
Those 100 concurrent people are the first to jump straight to your twitter and hit the retweet button to boost your rank. They're pretty much the share holders of the art world; the people who tune in 90% of the time when they get a notification and watch till the end. The same people who donate to your stream.

You want that repeated business. Even if it means spending 30 minutes to do prep work it's all worth it because you don't have to think about how the illustration will turn out.

[Anonymous No.5196466]

>>5196460
and* can giggle/laugh on cam and be distracted all you want.

[Anonymous No.5196495]

>>5196008
>>5196055
me! I want critique! come visit the /beg/ threads sometime!

[Anonymous No.5196561]

Take your meds

[Anonymous No.5196596]

>>5196561
I have been taking my girl pills yes.

[Anonymous No.5196607]

>>5196087
GMI
>>5196213
put an oc inside her

[Anonymous No.5196621]

>>5196314
:( I’m sorry to hear that. I hope you’re able to find what you need out there.

[Anonymous No.5196627]

>>5196081
This.

[Anonymous No.5196630]

>>5195362
hope you are having fun at least

[Anonymous No.5196637]

>>5195410
I see beg more like a player test thing. it is just your peers giving you their opinions.

[Anonymous No.5196640]

>>5195419
this is some shonen shit right there

[Anonymous No.5196646]

>>5196057
tsunderes are the worst

[Anonymous No.5196650]

>>5196637
>player test thing
a what?

[Anonymous No.5196651]

No gf.

NO GF!!!

It is the year 2021 and STILL NO GF

AAAAHHHHH AAAAAHHHHHH SO HORNY AND LONELY HOT DOGA WHOOOPS

[Anonymous No.5196660]

>>5196651
Unfunny discord meme

[Anonymous No.5196665]

I wonder if I became homeless I will be able to make food money by selling drawings on the streets. at least for pity or to post on the twitter that they helped a homeless artist.

[Anonymous No.5196669]

>>5196646
IKR? He plays ‘hard to get’ way too much, but I can’t stop smiling.

[Anonymous No.5196673]

>>5196665

You could get EBT if you’re homeless you know. It’s only the druggies who can’t survive on the streets.

[Anonymous No.5196706]

>>5196650
when you make a game and you let other people play it, you don't expect they to suggest fixes, what you really want is their opinions and you translate that to fixes. they don't know what your intentions are and if they knew it would change their perceptions. like if you want to draw a figure falling, and everyone tells you that the figure looks like it is falling it. the solution is to make your intentions more obvious, not to draw the figure straight like people would suggest you. and if you say your intentions in the post they might not tell you that it is not obvious just by looking at the drawing.

[Anonymous No.5196738]

>>5196332
Pass the stream

[Anonymous No.5196809]

>be me
>NEET with rich parents
>talk with former friend on Discord
>he's complaining about his wageslave job
>decided to take the piss out of him and mock him with wageie memes i got from r9k
>he flips out and starts calling me a "trust fund baby" and how I don't understand what its like to have a job or be a a wage slave
>starts whining about how he doesn't have time to do anything anymore except work
>tell him to just quit and become a NEET like me
>he blocks me

Is is just me, or was he being a little bitch? It was just a prank bro

[Anonymous No.5196816]

I caught you thinking about me again.

[Anonymous No.5196823]

>>5196809
he is overreacting, but you ARE being a piece of shit

[Anonymous No.5196832]

>>5196809
>Im so naive that I think everyone can become a NEET with zero repercussions.
youre clearly just some spoiled faggot who knows nothing of the world but on the other hand your "friend" is just making excuses for his own shortcomings.
You and him both have growing up to do.

[Anonymous No.5196846]

>>5196809
I'm guessing that was your one and only friend

[Anonymous No.5196861]

>>5196809
You're both equally shitty.
1. How and why does he know your rich?
2. Full time jobs take up half the day so I'm not surprised he doesn't have time for you cause he's tired all the time now.

[Anonymous No.5196883]

God, some art classes I take are useful like figure drawing but my god some feel so fucking retarded like design, I feel like its pretentious ass sniffing over shit like modern art and abstract shit as long as it looks and feels deep. >bro constrast makes it a focal point >look how the lines move your eyes accrossed the page.

[Anonymous No.5196887]

>>5196809
Wagies are misery incarnated.
And only weak faggots can't handle some banter.
He probably thought that by working and by
>complaining how hard he has got because HE WORKS
that it automatically commands respect from others because they made bad life choices and they want you to tell them how good of a person they are.
Truly pathetic, these wagies.

[Anonymous No.5196890]

>>5196660
Makes me laugh evertim tho

[Anonymous No.5196980]

>>5196887
I know a woman whose entire identity is being a wagie who works oh so hard and I've found that she rages the most when I talk like a full blown hyper-capitalist boomer. She wants me to talk like a work-abhorring NEET (I hate the man, etc.) because I'm a work-abhorring NEET who hates the man, but instead I just serve her the shit that her company owner would give her. Like workers are inefficient as fuck and they're not qualified and they should be thankful that someone is hiring them, that they're often missing a lot of skills that would benefit the company. And I make a point that if these people were more skilled, then companies could spend less money on useless workforce. I heard they're automatic this job position, it's pretty cool isn't it? Can't stand that they're hiring dead weight who can't even use a computer. Etc. etc. She seethes beyond belief every time. Nothing hurts the wagie more than being told he should be thankful that he's being hired, although it's the kind of thing they would tell you if you complained about work. Remind them of the corporate dick that fucks them up the ass every morning. She had to quit a job that was overworking her and I'm mentioning that her new job is easier every time.
She started it all when she said that jobless people should be left to die if they got Corona.

[Anonymous No.5196982]

>>5196887
that is a very uncharitable interpretation of the events

[Anonymous No.5197058]

>>5196887
Not saying the kind of wagies you’re talking about don’t exist, but the guy was clearly being antagonistic and dickish on purpose. Sounds to me like they’re both immature.

[Anonymous No.5197066]

>>5196887
>they made bad life choices
Some people never had a choice

[Anonymous No.5197200]

>>5196980
>She started it all when she said that jobless people should be left to die if they got Corona.
Truly miserable. In the end, that is the fate that awaits them once they will not be of use anymore and then they'll complain, they'll complain hard. They will blame everybody.
They'll blame the homeless people, the mentally ill, the rich, the poor, the neets, the unemployed, everyone except themselves for allowing themselves to be abuses by Mr.Boss.
They get what they fucking deserve.
>>5196982
I wasn't there. So the only thing i can do is assume and spark conversation.
Also who the fuck gets mad about memes?
>>5197058
It's banter, Anon.
>>5197066
Sure you can.
Instead of wanting money to consoom and do drugs, you just don't.

[Anonymous No.5197205]

im so fucking lonely.

[Anonymous No.5197207]

>>5196980
>>5196809
Why do you guys argue with people? It's so much leas stressful not bothering

[Anonymous No.5197216]

>>5196861
>1. How and why does he know your rich?
Because I told him?
Several times?
lol, i made sure to brag about my expensive battlestation and the careers my parents have to make him seethe because it was funny

[Anonymous No.5197217]

>>5196081
>I have unironically never seen a single person on /ic/ say this.
Consider yourself lucky, the stylefags used to shit up everything constantly around here. There are still a few that do it but it's not half of /beg/ like it used to be.

>If you just tell people “fundies” without giving people targeted critique like “you made the hands too small, a fully outstretched hand should be big enough to cover the face” then you’re not actually helping.
Oh no I'm not just saying "fundies" and leaving. I give them a whole rundown on whats wrong and how to fix it, what I think they did well, resources to study, exercises to do, I give a wall of text explaining everything and I used to post redlines along with it. The problem they have with me is it all boils down to bad fundamentals, and most of the time that is not what they want to hear or put their time into. What's frustrating is putting in all that time and effort for nothing.

[Anonymous No.5197219]

>>5196823
It was just banter.
Not my fault he got asshurt and can't take a joke lol
>>5196846
Nope i have lots of friends. He was just a good source of entertainment due to his shitty life and constant bitching

[Anonymous No.5197222]

>>5197200
>Instead of wanting money to consoom and do drugs
I don't do this. I'm still using the same old phone and computer and have no desire to upgrade, I don't do drugs and I do most of my drawing and practice on cheap printer paper and regular bic pen and pencils. I don't want money just for the sake of it but if I stop working I would find myself without food or shelter and I don't have any kind of safety net like a family, I'm on my own.

[Anonymous No.5197224]

>>5197216
>>5197219
So you just bantz about being rich multiple times? You seem like a boring person if thats your shtick

[Anonymous No.5197226]

>>5197224
Better than being poor and a wageslave atleast.

[Anonymous No.5197227]

>>5197222
ok, but this isn't about you.
And you trying to be the exception to the rule as an argument, doesn't reflect the majority of the human population.

[Anonymous No.5197229]

>>5197226
Those aren’t personalities

[Anonymous No.5197234]

>>5197219
>Nope i have lots of friends
your mommy and dada don't count

[Anonymous No.5197235]

>>5197207
Some people just need to be put in their place.
Why did you break your own rule though?
You could've just not bothered.

[Anonymous No.5197239]

>>5197235
What rule? I asked a simple question.

[Anonymous No.5197243]

>>5197239
Why do you bother asking?

[Anonymous No.5197247]

>>5197243
Curiosity.

[Anonymous No.5197279]

>>5195415
>>5195410
holy shit this so much. Post a fucked up pic on beg, you get "study fundies / loomis / bad forms"
Post a fucked up pic on int or any other drawing general, you'll get a detailed breakdown on exactly where you fucked up like "the neck is too long / the light hitting the cheeks is coming at an angle it would not if you rotated the skull / you need to focus on foreshortening the arm" etc

[Anonymous No.5197285]

>>5197229
>implying wagies have any personality when they are literally soulless automatons
lol

[Anonymous No.5197288]

>>5197285
Didn’t imply any of that. You seem insecure.

[Anonymous No.5197294]

>>5196832
>>5196861
You're both autistic if you think the other guy did anything wrong. Complaining about a job is one thing, but purposely antagonizing someone just to get a rise out of them especially if they are your "friend" is just prick move. Blocking this faggot was the logical choice.

[Anonymous No.5197299]

>>5197288
Im not the one defending someone they never met, over a harmless banter, but go off king

[Anonymous No.5197306]

>>5197294
That anon has been replying to posts for almost 4 hours here, he’s just unhappy

[Anonymous No.5197307]

>>5196561
Never, when I do all of the fun voices in my head go away and I get lonely

[Anonymous No.5197309]

>>5197219
>Not my fault he got asshurt and can't take a joke lol
a joke at his expense, he opened up to you and you made fun of his weakness, why should he put up with your shit?

[Anonymous No.5197312]

i've never met a woman who's done art because they had to, only because they could

[Anonymous No.5197316]

>>5197306
im maybe im just bored

[Anonymous No.5197317]

>>5197227
>doesn't reflect the majority of the human population.
so, some people don't have a choice?

[Anonymous No.5197321]

>>5195376
get art friends from drawthreads out of /ic/ like /co/, /a/, /v/ etc..
/ic/ is full of women and men who might as well be women

[Anonymous No.5197326]

>>5197312
>done art because they had to
I never met anyone like that

[Anonymous No.5197331]

>>5197326
they're a rare breed, but they're usually people who's career could never be art for whatever reason

[Anonymous No.5197343]

>>5195376
I just want some art pen pal to talk about art and keep each other accountable, but I am just too autistic to interact with another human being.

[Anonymous No.5197346]

>>5197343
>>5197321

[Anonymous No.5197350]

>>5197343
I would like to do this, however work is currently consuming my time so I wouldn't be able to keep you accountable half of the time as I have problems to account for myself in this situation.

[Anonymous No.5197351]

>>5197343
If you’re a cute girl I will be your fren

[Anonymous No.5197352]

>>5197351
>only cute girls are allowed to get help for art

[Anonymous No.5197356]

>>5197352
I only want to talk to cute girls because I already have a lot of friends so only having more cute girls to talk to would add benefit to my life

[Anonymous No.5197359]

>Want to draw
>Know the end result will be shit
What do?

[Anonymous No.5197373]

>>5197285
>implying neets have any personality besides how they arent wagies
its one thing to be a soulless wagie but its even more pathetic to make your personality be parasitic on their already lacking self

[Anonymous No.5197375]

>>5197359
your progress matters

[Anonymous No.5197376]

>>5197359
draw anyway

[Anonymous No.5197379]

is there a ic alternative in one of the other image boards?

[Anonymous No.5197381]

>>5196823
I doubt he even "overreacted". Remember, were just getting OP's version of the event. For all we know, his friend kept his cool, spoke his mind then cut off contact with his sociopathic ass but he's making it sound like he completely sperged out.

[Anonymous No.5197384]

>>5196170
good

[Anonymous No.5197388]

I fucking hate how I always have the drive to draw when I have shit ton of stuff to do, but when I have free time I spend it on shit like playing vidya or watching anime.

I think I might look into one of those weekly schedule things to know what to do every day.

[Anonymous No.5197391]

>>5195264
Yeah I grind your crush’s box every night

[Anonymous No.5197394]

>>5196170
if you get good in a year the only difference between you and the guy who got good before you is that they had a few extra years
for the rest of both of your lives, you're still good artists
whats like 1, 2, 5, 10 years difference out of a century of living

[Anonymous No.5197397]

>>5197375
I'll still be bad tomorrow

[Anonymous No.5197401]

>>5197381
yeah totally, I just chose to take it at face value, for the sake of argument. given that he still look bad in his own version.

[Anonymous No.5197405]

>>5197397
there's three things that are important for learning to improve (or anything really)
1. Reason
2. Resources
-this also includes the right resources for YOU, how information is presented to you, goals, and time...
3. and Support

you already have Reason, i can't say if you have the resources, i don't even know what the right resources are for you but I'd suggest going to the megathreads, and most importantly support. I support you bro, your progress matters

[Anonymous No.5197408]

>>5197388
I had the same problem, the book atomic habits helped me a lot.

[Anonymous No.5197411]

>>5197379
How's your webcomic (or HYW) threads in /co/. It's like ic except with no coom and they thinks that everyone in ic is a bunch of idiots

[Anonymous No.5197412]

>>5196706
ah I see I see

[Anonymous No.5197430]

>>5197411
/co/ also ocasionally has 'work on your art' threads(OP pic is always batman)

[Anonymous No.5197431]

>>5197411
I was thinking more from other site besides 4chan, but the thread does look nice tho. thanks

[Anonymous No.5197449]

>>5197317
Exceptions don't make rules.
What's so hard to understand about it?

[Anonymous No.5197466]

im starting to feel sad again

[Anonymous No.5197472]

>>5197466
Good. Be sad.

[Anonymous No.5197475]

>>5197472

do you enjoy me being sad?

[Anonymous No.5197485]

>>5195280
Chilean here.
Love you anon

[Anonymous No.5197486]

>>5197279
It gets tiring posting the same advice over and over again.

[Anonymous No.5197491]

>>5197449
his point was that some people don't have a choice, yours was the most people have. those are not opposites.

[Anonymous No.5197510]

I want to draw but I just don't. I can hardly even put 20 minutes a day into practice some days. How do I enjoy it?

[Anonymous No.5197522]

>>5197510
make a point to learn something new often

[Anonymous No.5197523]

>>5197510
spend half of your time practicing any material you have for the day and the other half doing what you enjoy.
Anyone telling you to stop drawing anime girls because you can't draw can fuck off, just don't let drawing for fun stop you from drawing to learn. but also don't let drawing to learn stop you from drawing to have fun.

After you finish drawing for fun you will not be satisfied with what you did unless you have a really huge ego and delusions and should look into posting your work and letting other anons bully you a bit, not even the best are 100% satisfied with their product so if you are there is something wrong with it, after drawing for fun, you will look forward to going trough some resources so that the next time you draw for fun you can do a bit better.

[Anonymous No.5197528]

>>5197491
Are you mentally challenged or just a kid, anon?

[Anonymous No.5197536]

I'm not loved.

[Anonymous No.5197537]

>>5195280
>>5197485
Another Chilean here, there is nothing to love in Chile, Its a terrible place full of terrible people, makes /ic/ crabbing looks like a picnic. I'm glad I left.

[Anonymous No.5197555]

>>5197312
Nobody has to do art.

[Anonymous No.5197560]

>>5197312
>done art because they had to
??

[Anonymous No.5197579]

I just drew some metal armor that looks exactly how I wanted it to and now here comes the crippling fear of failure preventing me from painting the rest

[Anonymous No.5197582]

>>5197579

I just went through this after finishing a piece that took me a month to render. My advice? Just finish it. Even if its not 100%, the 95% will still make you proud.

[Anonymous No.5197609]

>>5197582
I'm gonna force myself since it's the only way to improve. It's just so predictable, this always happens

[Anonymous No.5197618]

>>5197555
>>5197560
soulless women

[Anonymous No.5197643]

I was riding high on a wave of Dunning Kruger and have since faceplanted after making a real stinker. I'm feeling discouraged.

[Anonymous No.5197644]

>>5197609

Trust me, itll be worth it. You can do it, anon!

[Anonymous No.5197738]

>>5197405
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.5197786]

>>5197644
Sure hope so. If anything at least I have a good method for painting metallics now. Thanks friend

[Anonymous No.5197877]

>Just draw
>Just copy your favorite artist
>Just do x1000 gestures
Okay I'll just try them all then

[Anonymous No.5197886]

>>5197394
IF I get good in a year.

[Anonymous No.5197892]

>>5197394
>the only difference between you and the guy who got good before you is that they had a few extra years
A few extra 30 years.
for the rest of both of your lives

[Anonymous No.5197895]

>>5197877
Don't forget to draw what you like :^)

[Anonymous No.5197920]

Drawing is such a lonely hobby

[Anonymous No.5197942]

>>5195410
I straight up don't want to risk helping yet another pornfaggot who cares nothing about art and only wants to hustle. I also don't want to help anybody settle here who could settle somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.5197961]

>>5197537
chilean bitches are the worst. The ones you see sperging on /cm/ and /y/

[Anonymous No.5197994]

>>5196324
You don't deserve anything but shit if all you're going to do is spit venom at people trying to help. There's a very fundamental misunderstanding on /ic/ about the mentality you should have when you're asking for help. People aren't going to respond kindly if they just get shit whenever they try to help.

[Anonymous No.5198001]

>>5197994
but muh 4chan culture tone based retard kek trannies pyw

[Anonymous No.5198003]

i feel like i dont really understand most concepts i use to draw with but just kinda improv my way and try to get lucky with something

[Anonymous No.5198011]

>>5197299
>basically just calling someone poor and laughing that they have to work for a living
>banter
That's like laughing at a kid for having cancer and when they start crying you go "its just a joke lol! why can't you take a joke?". You're too retarded to understand that the dude was opening up to you about his stress and life and you just laughed.

[Anonymous No.5198016]

>>5198011
Meh he's probably trolling or actually disabled

[Anonymous No.5198021]

My mom is selling graphics tablet which she bought me. I live in eastern europe and we are fucking poor. I love drawing and it hurts me even more because it's necessary now. I am about to cry. I am nothing, I am miserable and the only thing that brings me joy is taken from me.

[Anonymous No.5198024]

>>5198021
How old are you?

[Anonymous No.5198028]

>>5198024
I'm turning 19 in 11 days

[Anonymous No.5198031]

>>5198001
Yea, people really don't understand that you really need to shelf that shit when it comes to asking for help. Its really baffling to me how people will run really talented artist off the board with their autism, then are genuinely perplexed that there's no good artists on the board willing to help people out.
>>5198016
The amount of stupid, antagonistic, inbred fucks that can't even listen to basic advice on this board really shoots the "just trolling" idea out the water.

[Anonymous No.5198037]

>>5198028
Yikes man just draw on paper with a 1 dollar pencil

[Anonymous No.5198038]

I met a girl that was into art (and actually decent) a few months ago but I ghosted her because I'm insecure and thought I was just bothering her. I don't really know how I feel about that.

[Anonymous No.5198046]

>>5195264
Yesterday, after almost a year of studying and practicing from references/books, I made my first attempt at drawing a naked lady without any reference. Went through all the stages, took me like 6 hours. It wasn’t perfect but I was pretty happy.

Then I made the mistake of posting it on /beg/ and it got bashed to hell and back. It really demotivated me. Some anons are really harsh sometimes, and it made me sad. Makes me feel like I will never make it.

Melkor, Shiwasu, Vixen, I have failed you...

[Anonymous No.5198058]

>>5198021
Actually you needed to be more careful now, your pc/laptop could be next.

Anyway think of this as your training arc; get back to pen and paper and keep drawing, heck maybe the tablet was your crutch all these times. Meanwhile try to find a way to be more financially independent.

>"Gotta have opposites dark and light, light and dark in a painting. It’s like in life. Gotta have a little sadness once in a while so you know when the good times come. I’m waiting on the good times now.”

[Anonymous No.5198068]

>>5198038
It's only rude if you don't reply back to her; 1:1 back and forth is perfectly fine. Liked all her drawings and don't forget her birthday

[Anonymous No.5198086]

>>5198031
>Its really baffling to me how people will run really talented artist off the board with their autism
So you are saying talent is real? gtfo already crab

[Anonymous No.5198100]

>>5198038
>have a female friend who's into drawing
>one day we're talking outside and I notice she's holding a bag
>I ask her what's inside of it
>she takes a drawing book from an artist out of it and shows me a few pages
>suddenly she opens a page and there's a huge hentai drawing
>she freezes, says "uh... I didn't know there was that stuff in it"
>my bus arrives, not giving me a chance to laugh it off
>"c-cya"
>mfw we haven't talked in months

[Anonymous No.5198109]

>>5198100
>haven't talked in months
Cmon covid is a universal freepass excuse to get away from lots of shit. Just talk with her again like nothing happened

[Anonymous No.5198121]

>>5198109
>Hey I'm your childhood friend! Maybe we can talk again!
Why did you seek me out during a lockdown? I ghosted that shit.

[Anonymous No.5198131]

>>5198046
ic isnt a place to coddle u but if u considered that progress for urself, no one should take that away from you but yourself. keep drawing.

[Anonymous No.5198189]

>>5197528
>resorting to insults

[Anonymous No.5198195]

>>5198046
Did you really think you would get it perfectly right on the first try? Just try again and don't let it get you down.

[Anonymous No.5198235]

>Last twitter post blew up in reception compared to my regular single digit posts
>Started getting a shitload of followers
>Even getting followed by Japanese artists I love
Now I'm scared about posting something else, I know whatever I do is not gonna hold on the same light of the previous post, I think it was all some kind of strange fluke and I'm really not getting used to receiving attention at all.

[Anonymous No.5198248]

>>5198235
I know that feel brother

[Anonymous No.5198261]

>>5198248
Could you tell me how did you got over it?

[Anonymous No.5198304]

>>5198235

Here is what went through the big wig Japanese artist who followed you
>ah sugoi...sugoi na
>click follow
>close immediately and move on to the next person
>suuuugoi sugoi hahaha
>follow
>move on to the next one
don't treat it as some medal

[Anonymous No.5198306]

>>5198304
But they RT me as well

[Anonymous No.5198310]

>>5198261
Post lots of irritating memes and pictures of you doing YouTube face

[Anonymous No.5198330]

>>5198304
Based and sugoipilled

[Anonymous No.5198332]

>>5198261
I didn't. I'm still anxious over posting in social media. Sorry brother..

[Anonymous No.5198437]

I thought of a neat idea to use an app alarm to remind me every hour to draw by voice recording, basically telling myself I'm NGMI unless I draw. I hope it works.

[Anonymous No.5198475]

>>5197485
>>5197537
Say "hi!" to my bf for me.

[Anonymous No.5198495]

>>5198304
>>ah sugoi...sugoi na
>>click follow
>>close immediately and move on to the next person
literally me

[Anonymous No.5198505]

>wake up early
>breakfast and coffee
I'm so goddamn happy

[Anonymous No.5198708]

I never liked the sound of miku vocaloid music as a kid and I still don’t like fucking listening to vocaloid music. I also hate almost all Fripside songs.

[Anonymous No.5198770]

>>5198028
>19
>can't get a job

jesus man, kys

[Anonymous No.5198794]

>>5195264
I've been studying a reference of a black man and I fucking hate drawing it. It's making me mad having to look at his ugly gorilla features and large nose. I can't believe being racist is affecting my art this way.

[Anonymous No.5198829]

fuck

[Anonymous No.5198855]

>>5198021
your mistake was not getting some commissions bucks

[Anonymous No.5198902]

Stupid first world problem here, but man I wish I rented an apartment instead of owning a house. Arctic storms or some shit are about to hit, so I had to spend days and money preparing instead of having a nice time working on my art. But when I do earn money, I have to save it for roof repairs from another storm. Insurance doesn't cover it because I haven't paid off the deductable.
I just want to draw

[Anonymous No.5198912]

>>5198902
The pros of renting is free repairs and replacements on all appliances, no worries of the roof, no lawn to mend, and trash gets picked up for you!

The cons are you can't have a stereo system in your unit because the sound will leak to the neighbors.

[Anonymous No.5198923]

>>5198912
I used to rent and I remember the noise. Last place I rented had some dumbass cowboy who lived above me and he would keep locking himself out on his balcony, then try to kick in the glass
Right now, noise isn't too bad, still have loud music from teens driving near my house to school, neighbors who light fireworks a week before/after holidays, etc

[Anonymous No.5198943]

AAAAAAAAAAH IM HUINGRUUUYUYYYYYYY I NEED FOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDD

[Anonymous No.5198945]

>>5198943
Prepare to consume an obscene amount of food.

[Anonymous No.5198989]

I just spent 45 minutes trying to draw concept art and all I have to show for it is two crappy sketches. No matter how mch refrence or guide marks I use they turn out wrong. I know I'm extremely /beg/ tier but I want to at least make some sketches that could communicate an idea properly. I don't know where to go from here.

[Anonymous No.5198998]

i don't even feel like i deserve to make something i could be proud of

[Anonymous No.5199017]

>>5198021
>>5198028
sorrry faggot, should have learned earlier that art is for the rich

[Anonymous No.5199019]

why am I stuck in this hell of mediocrity
well fuck it, guess I'm going to be a shit artist then

[Anonymous No.5199056]

https://archived.moe/qst/thread/4647069

An /a/ bot somehow started posting on a /qst/ thread. Proof that bots infest 4chan. /x/ might be really onto something

[Anonymous No.5199073]

>>5199056
what the fuck is that thread

[Anonymous No.5199079]

>>5199073
it was a /qst/ thread that somehow probably had key words that triggered an /a/ bot. >>>/x/27622750 is the thread thats discussing this right now.

Some people on /x/ think the federal government made this bot but I personally don't buy that, its probably just some hobbyist computer scientist that made a shitposting bot for fun. But the scary thing is, is that the OP claimed the bot copied one of his own posts word for word, so it might have access to your personalized post history.

>>>/qst/4647069 this is the thread that it happened in, but all the posts were scrubbed, so we found the archived version.

[Anonymous No.5199091]

>>5199056
proof that shingekitards are a bunch of npcs

[Anonymous No.5199093]

>>5199056
This is just a regular day in /asg/

[Anonymous No.5199107]

>>5199056
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/Not%20gonna%20lie%2C%20former%20Trump%20supporter%20here.%20This%20is%20fucking%20hilarious%20watching%20Trump%20crash%20and%20burn.%20But%20in%20all%20seriousness%20we%20can%27t%20let%20this%20guy%20get%20the%20nuclear%20codes./page/18/
literally nothing new

[Anonymous No.5199233]

>>5199056
4chan has had had bot spams for years you literal newfag.

[Anonymous No.5199277]

>>5198989
Cute pupper, makes me think of Paw Patrol

[Anonymous No.5199315]

I swear I'm not /pol/ but whenever I see a tranny or other snowflake in a community I just want to bail ASAP. I just expect them to be power-tripping narcissists who exist to vacuum as much validation as possible from everyone around them. Since they're fully backed up by whatever CoC is employed you can be assured that if they wake up on the wrong foot, they can get you kicked out over nothing.
Am I really gonna have to choose between walking on eggshells and having nowhere to go? How do I learn to be more relaxed if this is unwarranted? I'm not going to mingle with retarded American conservatives for sure.

[Anonymous No.5199320]

>>5199315
Walk on egg shells lol, if you dont have fun getting risked of being doxxed

[Anonymous No.5199326]

>>5199320
Am I being overly fearful about this? Have the constant internet drama reports fucked me in the head and I'm fretting over no real issue? I think it's sane to be scared of schizos whose word is truth by the law.

[Anonymous No.5199369]

Would putting my preferred gender on my Twitter bio help me in any way?

[Anonymous No.5199374]

>>5199369
It signals that you submit to the gendershit mafia.

[Anonymous No.5199384]

>>5199374
Hmm oh ok

[Anonymous No.5199391]

Despite having so many more tools and options, digital just doesn't feel as satisfying/fun as trad pencils for some reason...

[Anonymous No.5199487]

>>5199326
>I don't want to be associated with trannies/ mentally ill
>I dont want to be associated with conservatives
What exactly makes you scared of conservatives when there's something far more worse what you just listed? If some boomer is complaining its too lewd so whats exactly is wrong with that? it's better than trannies, once they snap your fucked..
no normal human would be associated with that thing so its absolutely normal in trying to get away since its guaranteed for them to have a few screw looses in there heads, trannies werent a thing until it started being fashionable by the mentally ill and by the media. could just post on gab or some hyper link associated with gab since thats a guaranteed tranny repellant since the identity of that entire website is conservative (name brand terrifies them dont know why).

I dont know what else to say anon, I could try convince you to embrace the transvestites and not be so bigoted toward them you just actually need to interact with them but you don't really seem have an open arm with them now do you anon? Not even one bit at all with that post you just made that just ooze vehement hatred toward that certain minority class (just an example how those fuckers can attempt to guilt trip you into bending the knee to them , they always have that obnoxious condescending tonein there sentence its a real huge eye sore they act so passive aggressive when you upset them.). I still really need your explanation on "refusing to not mingle with conservatives" cause you gave a huge ass reason for not wanting to be associated with trannies but not the conservative part.

I couldve been the ultimate crab and convince you to embrace them so take that as you will anon, being this autistic about your safety is good for you anon.

[Anonymous No.5199504]

>>5199326
>schizos whose word is truth by the law
We really tried to out china'd china. Except we don't have nice jeans

[Anonymous No.5199661]

Digital rendering is insanely fucking hard how the hell are you suppose to do this shit. Its far far easier to shade with a graphite or charcoal but I cant fucking wrap my head around this shit. Hell I am even taking classes at my local college for digital painting I dont fucking know how to get the soft and hard edges right on top of values. Like how the fuck am I suppose to get the subtle details like the shadow on the ribs.

[Anonymous No.5199760]

Migraine attack. Check
4 hours of sleep. Check
Yep, it's drawfag time.

[Anonymous No.5199838]

I'm sick of having no talent.

[Anonymous No.5199844]

>>5195264
Grinding is hard, tiring, frustrating, and depressing. When you feel down, just look at worse art than yours that has soul. You'll feel inspired because even though their art sucks, they are having fun.
>REMEMBER TO FUCKING DRAW YOUR OWN ORIGINAL DRAWINGA AND HAVE FUN NO MATTER WHAT THE END RESULT LOOKS LIKE.

[Anonymous No.5199849]

I spent the whole day on 4chan again. This site is killing me, but I have no friends.

[Anonymous No.5199993]

>>5199849
whoa cute dragon boy

[Anonymous No.5200061]

>>5195264
>Be stop motion artist
>Make a quick animation for social media
>Use brochure as prop
>Brochure is for business that's only in my state
>Really worried someone will be crazy enough to use that to triangulate my location

[Anonymous No.5200124]

>>5200061
We're coming for you.

[Anonymous No.5200202]

This might be heavy, but I was planning to commit suicide on the 2nd of this month, I went to a building getting ready to jump, I was scared at first, I smoked some cigars, trying to fight my survival instinct, I think I won, I was very dead inside, I'm getting ready to jump. I stood up, "i'm gonna jump, i'm gonna jump...", suddenly a random guy shows up, sits on a chair, smoking his hookah, and he looks at me, "hey, are you okay?", I said "yes" and just left. Suddenly, I felt like I actually died and was reborn again. I quit my job, slept, and started drawing.

[Anonymous No.5200206]

>>5200202
desu the only thing keeping me going right now is (you)

[Anonymous No.5200208]

>>5200202
Sounds like you have a guardian angel.

[Anonymous No.5200212]

>>5200208
>a skinny guy who smokes hookah

best guardian angel.

[Anonymous No.5200213]

>>5200212
You should draw him anon.

[Anonymous No.5200224]

>>5199487
>I dont want to be associated with
I don't care much about association, I just want a pleasant environment.
First, any large community that isn't infested with PC culture will be strictly American conservative. I hate Americans in general, but the specific breed of American conservatives that shit like Gab is made of are completely fucking retarded. I dabble in a few environments with conservatives and I've concluded that they're just as insane as the trannies, and somehow they're even more laser focused on the whole war against lefties than the trannies are about their penis. They are pure 100% reactionary shit. Leftists say the sky is blue? Then the sky must be red! Leftists say the Earth is round? Then the Earth is flat! They're schizo tier conspiracy theorists with no common sense and it's so fucking tiring to be around them. And they're constantly talking about the leftists anyway so you get the second hand smoke of what you'd get in the PC rooms.
>and not be so bigoted toward them
Just to be clear I'm not the kind of person who likes to go around saying /pol/ shit. I was pretty liberal until "acceptance" turned into celebration and supremacy and communities started considering "microaggressions" as something that should be in a CoC and tell me to list my pronouns when I join. But I don't want to get into this argument since it's been laid out a million times. I just don't know if I'm having too much of a knee-jerk reaction to this shit. Maybe it's not as terrible as I perceive it to be and if I not list my pronouns and ignore the eventual rabid trannoid who finds something problematic in my work, I can live normally?
I've resigned that there are no normal people around any longer, it's all polarized to shit. I hate both sides and they're mostly the same thing.

[Anonymous No.5200227]

>>5200202

Something similar happened to me also. I think some people can just sense you’re about to hero because you really look like you’re about to.

[Anonymous No.5200248]

>be me,absolute beg in digital painting

>Watch a video made by "Feng zhu" about digital painting

>"bro paint on a single layer an no undo,if you make a mistake paint over it"

>paint on a single layer
>make a mistake
>try to paint over it as Feng Zhu said
>the stroke is painted underneath

Why the fuck does this happen?I don't know,but it make me angry.

[Anonymous No.5200287]

I just came after an entire week of edging and busting my balls all day every day to disgusting porn i hate and for some fucking reason my head was inside the foreskin at the time i reached climax and each time sperm gushed out it grew in size considerably, to a size that shouldn't be allowed to be contained by foreskin and it was ridiculously painful and it didin't stop i just came and came. Apart from sharp pain i felt nothing because i was mostly numb at that point now.

I have had a constant urge to vomit for the last few years.

[Anonymous No.5200316]

Now I understand why some artists draw abusive porn of women. It all makes sense now.

[Anonymous No.5200376]

>>5196232
Theres always a burger analogue for EOL

[Anonymous No.5200381]

>try as hard as you fucking can on a drawing, literally spend days on it, study many references, sleep on it to make sure it looks good
>post it on /ic/
>"Anon, have you heard of a book called Fun With A Pencil? I think it might help you out."

[Anonymous No.5200415]

>>5200376
>how you see women when you're 16 vs. how you see women when you're 30

[Anonymous No.5200419]

>>5200316
ryona?

[Anonymous No.5200523]

>>5200419
yes that

[Anonymous No.5200547]

>>5200381
are you having fun yet?

[Anonymous No.5200613]

>>5195362
What's stopping you from making your own game alone?

[Anonymous No.5200688]

>>5200224
>I've resigned that there are no normal people around any longer,
One more step away of becoming an actual /pol/fag, Honestly hope you do ok for yourself anon

[Anonymous No.5200720]

I have lost my desire for having a large group of art friends. After about a year of it I've learned most artists just aren't worth talking too. Most produce nothing but garbage with very little capacity to grow and lack the ability to spark engaging discussion beyond dick sucking or offer any form of insight that isn't regurgitation. I'll admit this may be me just crabbing.

[Anonymous No.5200726]

another day without my creative boyfriend
/longdrawnoutsigh

[Anonymous No.5200730]

>>5200726
I can be your bf provided you don't draw anime and you are a girl (female)

[Anonymous No.5200737]

>>5200730
I draw anime and I'm a girl (trans).

[Anonymous No.5200742]

>>5200737
...nothing personnel... *teleports away*

[Anonymous No.5200747]

>have an account with normal art
>have an account with fetish art
>scared people will figure out I'm behind both of them
Now that I've typed it out, I realized how retarded it is. Who the fuck cares, eh, it's not like I'm making any money with either of them.

[Anonymous No.5200756]

>>5200742
:(

[Anonymous No.5200764]

>>5200747
>have an account under for my professional art
>have an account for my personal art that is completely pg
>don't update either of them but still afraid of being found out that i'm behind both of them; considering making a third account because i hate the name i used for my personal art account, plus now i draw more edgy stuff which i haven't posted.

i think i'm more retarded than you are...

[Anonymous No.5200792]

>>5200720
It sounds like you’ve just experienced a lot of perceived rejection from other artists. Bitterness is not the way Anon. Your people are out there, you just haven’t found them yet.

[Anonymous No.5200796]

>>5200720
Most artists are unironically really dumb. They’ve never reflected on their goals or their work beyond “I like drawing so I’ll draw a lot”.

[Anonymous No.5200832]

>>5200796
>>5200792
i think 90% of artists are narcissistic and driven by ego and insecurity to some degree, while the 10% humble ones are also simultaneously the most interesting because of their natural curiosity in the subject and everything else around them, including people, which makes them really well-rounded and popular individuals.

so tl;dr, make friends with artists who are humble and good at art if you want to have engaging conversations. just make sure you bring something to the table too, like being just as good as they are or have knowledge they can learn from that they're not too familiar with but interested in (like if they paint/draw, and you work on cars or something and they happen to be interested in that subject and want to understand it better) or you probably won't catch their attention and just be one of their dick sucking fans.

[Anonymous No.5200880]

>>5200224
>Based no politics shit community anon.
Honestly i wish there was a community where retarded leftists and conservcucks won't shit everything up and insert politics into everyones face. Frankly, it's getting fucking annoying hearing about the same old red vs blue. Every politician is not on your side and never will be. I fucking swear people just get a rush out of making everything about politics. It's like fucking idolizing celebrities.

[Anonymous No.5200887]

>>5200832
Artists are just people, and there are all kinds of people. Some are good and some are bad. But confirmation bias will have you believe there is more of one kind than another. Your view of artists in general will reflect your view of humanity in general.

Always remember that if you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you keep running into assholes all day every day, you are the asshole.

[Anonymous No.5201055]

>>5200796
>They’ve never reflected on their goals or their work beyond “I like drawing so I’ll draw a lot”.
That's probably because people who make art with thoughts behind it are filtered out. That mindset is exactly what the industry / followers want.

[Anonymous No.5201119]

>>5200792
> experienced a lot of perceived rejection from other artists.

I was invited into these spaces, tried socializing, slowly started to hate interacting with the majority of people there. There's a couple of people that I like both as human beings and artists (these are always the ones that explore new ideas and approaches) but the majority make me want to bang my head into a brick wall. Especially when I try to help them, dear god even explaining the most straight forward and simple things to them is like pushing a wet noodle through granite. Some artists are hopeless and not worth wasting your time on. Maximum disdain for plebs.

[Anonymous No.5201243]

>>5200887
but there's a reason why stereotypes exist and how there are certain kinds of people drawn to a particular interest and the personalities that come with it. to pretend this doesn't exist would be incredibly naive.

like if i had to trust a hood nigger that is into gangsta rap and a small japanese woman who likes crocheting to be a friendly and polite neighbor, i would probably trust the japanese woman.

the very basis of creating something for the purpose of presenting it to anyone who will give their time of day for validation/opinions/critique (lets not kid ourselves, it's mostly for validation for the majority of artists which is why artists are so sensitive on critique and negative feedback) is a sort of attention-seeking behavior associated with narcissism and the ego because it's a extension of ourselves for a sense of acceptance. the 10% are the ones who already had their fill of attention so they feel comfortable and confident and are looking for reasons beyond simple praise to elevate their art, likely to finally validate themselves as their life's goal, which is why they are humble.

[Anonymous No.5201267]

>>5201243
>>5201119
I think the resistance to critique is not just due to the character of "artist" types, as much as art still being a thing of personal expression which can be rather intimate. There's a difference between making a presentation for your job (assuming you don't identify with your job) and reciting your poetry at the poetry club. You might be disappointed if your work presentation flops, but if people laugh you out of the room after you muster the courage to recite your poetry about stuff that you care about, that shit really hurts. I think it comes natural to become protective of your art. Then there are a ton of legit narcissists today but I think for some people it's about that.

[Anonymous No.5201276]

>>5201243
There’s a lot of mind-reading going on here. How can you be certain that attention/validation is the main motivation for 90% of artists? That’s a very uncharitable assumption, especially given that self-promotion is such a necessity these days if you at all want to be able to support yourself with your art.

Similarly, how can you be so sure of the motivations of the 10% that you also talk about? Have they always been humble, or is that a factor of age? People can change and grow over time, and narcissistic traits are especially prevalent among younger people. But either way you can’t really know what another person’s motivations are, you can only make best guesses or assumptions.

[Anonymous No.5201291]

>>5201276
>How can you be certain that attention/validation is the main motivation for 90% of artists?
NTA but outside of people who draw porn for easy money, artists draw to communicate something and that's somewhat tied to validation, cause no sane person would just talk to the wall. It can be bad but it's probably the reason why art exists in the first place.

[Anonymous No.5201343]

>>5201267
>I think the resistance to critique is not just due to the character of "artist" types, as much as art still being a thing of personal expression which can be rather intimate
but because we are talking about artists as a whole and about the truth of their stereotypes, aren't you essentially admitting that sensitive and narcissistic artists are a real thing?

because putting out art is what makes artists, "artists" and acting protective of your art after presenting it to the public is not rationally-driven, it's emotionally driven because it hurt their ego. no one can realistically believe that everyone in the world would love the art they put out, just like how not everyone loves vanilla icecream. whether the opinion of the art in question is objective or subjective, an artist should realistically expect some degree of that sort of feedback when putting something out for the public eye to view and judge. except i can guarantee that the negative feedback sticks to most artists and impacts them way more than the enormous amount of positive feedback they probably receive, because in their mind, it's an attack on their ego, like saying "your brain is retarded". they are addicted to the positive feedback and acceptance, and anyone who knows an artist, will know to give critique served with a slice of butter or they risk a melt down or shattering their confidence, unless they are a professional who is used to stepping back and viewing their art objectively. (who, by that point, is probably in that humble 10%)

if a math equation is wrong, it is objectively wrong and there's no way or reason to butter it up. it is the naked truth, and by becoming defensive over being wrong, it's an action driven by your ego.

it also doesn't help that most artists were likely social outcasts to begin with and their interest in art was probably their outlet of finding social acceptance.

[Anonymous No.5201393]

>>5201343
>aren't you essentially admitting that sensitive and narcissistic artists are a real thing?
I am reaffirming what you described but I wouldn't conflate this behavior with narcissism. Artists tend to have low self-esteem/impostor syndrome, act protective of their art, and so on because they simply identify with the art. They're not necessarily narcissistic. I think narcissism has more to do with social media and the general concept of fame that came into play since post WW2 than artist types, and since narcissistic behavior is usually rewarded on social media and other forms of social climbing you'll see more of that with artists as well.
I was making the example of talking to the wall. Somehow, those artists who lament that they get 0 engagement with their art on social media are told that they're "attention seekers" as if not wanting to be completely ignored and getting 2 likes from bots makes someone narcissistic. Of all the possible remarks, narcissistic? It's bizarre especially considering that you have plenty of real attention-seeking, narcissistic types online who are almost always very successful because they're actually playing the attention seeking game. And many of them are "humble" people whose humble act is calculated to project an image of themselves, and you can see that in hypocritical cases such as making tutorials while saying you hate your art.
In short, I think the behavior is objectionable, immature, etc. but I wouldn't say it's narcissistic.
>no one can realistically believe that everyone in the world would love the art they put out
cont.

[Anonymous No.5201409]

>>5201393
On that I think there's a fundamental entitlement on the part of whoever is on the receiving end of what people do: yes you are technically allowed to say whatever to the artist because he put the art online publicly, and the artist is not entitled to other people behaving as he pleases on a public platform, however nobody is entitled to mutuality. If you make a comment and the artist doesn't like it, I think that doesn't make the artist a dick. There are many reasons why someone wouldn't like an interaction, one is that maybe the artist is not interested in technical proficiency (not a fan but it's legit) and doesn't want to see your redline. Maybe it's a teenager posting his favorite turtle in a moment of emotional distress. I dunno, it's just that. Many artists use social media as a platform for marketing and they don't want to hear about the mistakes they made from randoms. I wish social media were less about marketing, but marketing is what people use it for now and if someone's trying to sell himself, it's just bad manners to throw a spanner in the works.
So idk, it's complicated. It doesn't necessarily have to be narcissism or some sort of egotistic madness.

[Anonymous No.5201451]

>>5201409
case in point, this thread >>5201378
I don't know the context but the guy here is pissed by the critique because his social media is a marketing space and he doesn't want anything negative in his ad campaign. He's like "I don't want your opinion on my space" and the only reason why this is unacceptable is that on social media everything is public and every unresolved interaction can snowball into madness, so everything turns into a power struggle. It should be completely legit that someone says hello and you block him because you don't like his avatar. This has more to do with social media being an absolute clusterfuck that human beings are not wired for than anything in the psychology of the individuals involved.

[Anonymous No.5201462]

>>5195362
>we're making a clicker game instead.
Based

[Anonymous No.5201470]

>>5201451
Same, dude seems like the type that has given an unsolicited critique or left a crudely-worded comment in the past and got some blowback for it. People aren’t automatically narcissistic just because they react negatively to a negative interaction.

[Anonymous No.5201478]

>>5201470
I have no feelings for the critiquing guy either. His criticism is reasonable (I haven't seen the art but he said that the fanart was out of character). The reason why things get heated is that when someone critiques you on social media you're basically forced to react. In real life there are dynamics that make this kind of situation really difficult to get to unless people are going out of their way to be hostile, and you can see that by body language, etc. Outside of things like interviews this never happens IRL. You never get anybody openly challenging you while you're under public exposure. It might be some banter/tension within the group you're hanging out with, or a professional context, but these dynamics are secluded. On social media you have to "handle" this shit when it comes to you. There's this stranger who starts chatting you up and it's unacceptable to just ignore him because he's opened a public debate and you have to perform. And the more you are publicly exposed the more pressure you will receive.
This is why I hate social media. It exploits simple social group mechanics to turn people into psychos.

[Anonymous No.5201503]

>>5200224
Not him, and I get it. Most of the people going around calling themselves conservative aren't really conservative at all, they're just the other half of the degenerates more interested in politics than real life.

>>5201243
>like if i had to trust a hood nigger that is into gangsta rap and a small japanese woman who likes crocheting to be a friendly and polite neighbor, i would probably trust the japanese woman.
I would just treat them both with the same initial suspicion until I got to know them. You can keep yourself safe without being nasty to people, and if you're nicer to people just because of their race, you're going to screw yourself eventually.
>You want dorrar mairl? No kurismasu dorrar for gaijin! It berong to SAMURAI now
>Shiiiet, homie, mailman gave me the money your folks senchu for christmas, here dawg, have the money and someofdat KFC peace yall dawg homie blud I'm gon go listen to eminem holla ifyu need some salt for dat chicken I gots da red salt aynd the whi salt

[Anonymous No.5201628]

>>5200747
I'm this way and have considered not caring. If IRL girls with onlyfans can put their real ass face next to their porn, and they can still get hired for normal work, why the fuck am I worrying about my cartoons? Only thing I need is an "are you 18" button before porn becomes visible.

[Anonymous No.5201715]

>>5201393
>low self esteem/imposter syndrome
would you agree they would feel less like so if they had many admirers and were famous?
because the definition of narcissism:
>a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others.

the self sense of their own importance usually comes from when they get a circle jerk of asspats which you are encouraging by calling social media platforms a marketing space? no one is entitled to compliments and even to look at your art, but this very thing is what drives an artist's low self esteem when there isn't enough attention.

the lack of empathy even fits in a sense, because when i saw >>5201451 it's like you and this artist live in a bubble where "mean people" aren't allowed. the reality is that you share this world with said "mean people" and anyone can turn "mean" if it is as loosely defined as it is now. that critiquing guy might be autistic, but he's hardly harmful. handling critique/negative feedback is a valuable life skill, only an artist would feel entitled to be protected from that.

[Anonymous No.5201716]

>>5201715
recruiters or clients are not going to sift through the comments and note how other people point out the mistakes of the artist. they have their own brain and opinions and random comments like this can easily be disregarded. now if there was a buttload of comments pointing out the mistakes?

if from different people: I would say if enough people pointed out there are that many mistakes, it was probably justified. when people point out mistakes, it's not to mob you or slight you personally, it is most likely an honest observation.

if all from the same/one person: it can be considered harassment at that point, but even this has nuance.

it's delusional to think that only "nice comments" are allowed because you define your social media (that you don't technically own by the way) as a "marketing space"; your marketing space should be building your own website, where no one is allowed to post comments, and posting your product there where you have full control. not even large corporates that run twitter or ig accounts fool themselves thinking this is their personal marketing space; this is why you'll see people make low quality comments and even fight eachother in the comments; they don't care.

if it wasn't about their ego, why not just draw for themselves and not show anyone? why does it need to be shown to anyone?

[Anonymous No.5201721]

>>5201503
except one is statistically more likely to kill you and the other is statistically more likely to be submissive in bed.

[Anonymous No.5201723]

why'd i ever try to be a good listener
its a useless skill, people who want to talk will just talk, and no one is gonna return the favor

[Anonymous No.5201744]

*poke*

[Anonymous No.5201810]

>>5201721
>more likely to be submissive in bed.
coomers are basically blacks

But my point was, statistics don't protect you and they don't inform your protection. Some more than others, but every race has criminals. Are you going to roll a dice according to a crudely drawn chart from pol every time you see a person? No. You act so as to ensure your own safety while you go about your day because you don't know what other people will do and it's a waste of time to use percentages and skin colours to determine if today is the day you're getting stabbed.

By all means follow the aryans into the alleyway if you think they're based and redpilled, but don't claim this was the work of hebrews on pol later if these aryans mug you instead of taking you to the sekrit SS bunker wunderland.

[Anonymous No.5201825]

>>5201723
haha fag, just be a good talker then

[Anonymous No.5201836]

>>5201810
what is this tranny-tier reddit shit?

nigger, i'm not even white or on /pol/ and i would pick the asian woman over the hood nigger for a neighbor in a heartbeat. you talk like someone who had never been outside the suburbs. i actually grew up around immigrants and hood niggers, and niggers were nigging since the dawn of time through harassment, stealing, and outright violence more than any other ethnic group, particularly towards asians and whites because they don't fight back since they are typically the more docile ones.

i guarantee you wouldn't last more than 10 minutes in the ghettos before some nigger shoots you in the brain for looking at them in a homosexual way. that is a real thing by the way, nigger.

[Anonymous No.5201848]

>>5201715
>only an artist would feel entitled to be protected from that.
I think it’s actually narcissistic to feel entitled to say anything you want any way you want without facing any social consequences. People have a right to dislike and avoid you because of your angry autism.

[Anonymous No.5201889]

>>5201848
>I think it’s actually narcissistic to feel entitled to say anything you want any way you want without facing any social consequences.

but it's even more narcissistic and THE classic definition of narcissism to believe the world revolves around you and have an obligation to walk on eggshells, and get on their knees to suck your dick. the reality is that someone, somewhere, sometime is going to say something that you personally disagree with or feel offended by for whatever reason because emotions are subjective and fleeting and it is YOUR responsibility to deal with it in a manner that would help you get along with not just your little bubble, but the rest of the human population.

one day someone is going to burst that bubble and you won't have the ability to block them, and i feel like you will be the type to break down hysterically and cry about anxiety and your other concoctions of self-diagnosed mental illnesses just so people can bend to your whims. it is lowkey manipulative.

[Anonymous No.5202046]

>>5201889
God you’re a faggot, kek

[Anonymous No.5202189]

>>5202046
no u, check mate nigger.

[Anonymous No.5202312]

>>5201715
I'm the guy from the longposts.
>would you agree they would feel less like so if they had many admirers and were famous?
I wouldn't know because I don't have admirers and I'm not famous, nor I belong to those circles, but either low self-esteem or impostor syndrome do not necessarily get better if you achieve or become popular, in fact they can get worse.
>the self sense of their own importance usually comes from when they get a circle jerk of asspats
You are conflating getting any validation with getting a circlejerk of asspats. The very definition of narcissism you pulled up has "excessive" in it. It is normal to desire validation and attention, nobody is evil for desiring that. Social media is garbage and it preys on this natural instinct, but that doesn't mean artists are narcissists. Actual narcissists will in fact be more successful because they're likely to have manipulative or dramatic behavior that tends to generate attention because social media works that way. You cannot be an understated, quiet individual on social media and exist at the same time. and "the squeaky wheel gets the grease". The social media users who is the internet analogue of the woman who wants to speak with the manager will, in fact, get to speak with the manager.
>which you are encouraging by calling social media platforms a marketing space?
I am not encouraging it. This is just the natural development of social media which is inherently performative. Again the problem with with social media, not artist types. The only thing that makes artists worse in this context is that art is by definition a very personal matter (again, unless you're a porn trendhopper, in that case it's just a money thing, porn artists tend to be way more level-headed on social media and play the game much better than other people because they have no personal stakes in what they produce) and because it is a personal matter they'll be more protective or neurotic about their art in the SM environment.

[Anonymous No.5202314]

>>5201715
>the reality is that you share this world with said "mean people" and anyone can turn "mean"
My point was that if someone comes up to you at the supermarket and says "hello" it's 100% normal to ignore or dismiss that person, actually it's so weird that a stranger would just come up to you and tell you something that it's extremely unlikely to happen in the first place. Now imagine social media where someone's peddling their furry porn commission, that's like a a booth in a market, someone comes up to you and starts criticizing your merchandise. It would be normal for a seller to tell that person to fuck off. On social media this situational layer from real life interactions is completely gone, the furry porn guy's booth is also the same place where he is "social" or pretends to be, and the guy commenting is not a random stranger walking up to him but a fleshed out identity with a name and an avatar and other shit in a profile. There's no barrier like that and nothing to "breach" between stranger and acquaintance, that's why I am saying that it should (as in it would be ideal) that nobody should take offense at any interaction, e.g. ideally the exchange like someone making an unwanted crit on a piece of art and the artist blocking that person and deleting the comment should both be 100% acceptable and have no consequence. Instead these things are treated much like an exchange that would happen IRL so they become "rude" and the platform is performative, so you have to look your best and "handle" things with tact. Which ironically makes people act like psychos.

[Anonymous No.5202421]

>>5195387
you made that anon? that's pretty good.
I miss my vidya friends too

[Anonymous No.5202439]

>>5201836
>/pol/nigger trying convince everyone that he's been around black people for the millionth time despite demonstrating he knows nothing about how the ghetto work
We really need board wide IDs so I can filter smooth brain mongrels like you.

[Anonymous No.5202539]

>>5198770
Covid lmao

[Anonymous No.5202616]

>>5198902
you should had bought a house in a safer place, that is your problem. also if you are unlucky, you could end up wasting even more time fighting with your landlord over the repairs and shit

[Anonymous No.5202638]

>>5199056
and I have to solve 200 captchas to make one shitpost

[Anonymous No.5202641]

>>5200061
use stuff that you can't find in your state to confuse them

[Anonymous No.5202648]

>>5200202
>I quit my job
I hope you have means to support yourself. if you are living from your savings cut your expanses as much as you can, without sacrificing your health of course. maybe try getting some microjob on the side. so you can increase the time that you have to find another source of income and don't have to sell your soul again. good luck.

[Anonymous No.5202654]

>>5200316
w-why?

[Anonymous No.5202657]

>>5200737
>I'm a girl (trans)
r u cute tho?

[Anonymous No.5202680]

>>5202657
Totes cute!