/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.5190763]

How can I deal, how should I deal with being the worst artist on /ic/?

[Anonymous No.5190765]

just draw

[Anonymous No.5190766]

>>5190763
If you aren't pixel schizo you aren't the worst. Stop being melodramatic.

[Anonymous No.5190768]

>>5190765
>>5190766
During 6 months I've been drawing, 6 FUCKING MONTHS and I literally had no improvement

[Anonymous No.5190770]

>>5190766
schizo is better than 56.42% of /ic/

[Anonymous No.5190772]

/beg/ told me I had no improvement and i KNOW its truth
>>5190709
>>5190709
>>5190709

[Anonymous No.5190774]

I was told this
>>Yes you should quit, because you're an npc that doesn't have a mind's eye. You're soulless, anon, and so you should continue with you life without doing art for professional reasons, if it makes you feel good though, just continue, but to me it seems like your mind is being tortured by the way art reminds you of the absense of a soul in you.
>>Exactly, you're subhuman. You can't think for yourself, you can't improve on your own, you can't even improve with others help and external resources and tutorials, completely hopeless. Not to speak of creativity and being able to portray higher levels of consciousness.

[Anonymous No.5190775]

>>5190763
you don't have to, one less competition for me :)

[Anonymous No.5190780]

>>5190768
Pixel Schizo has been doing it for years on this board with 0 improvement. Stop being a little baby about it.

[Anonymous No.5190782]

[Anonymous No.5190783]

This was my first drawing months ago, nothing has changed except I know how to make light lines now
THATS ALL THE IMPROVEMENT
IM FUCKING ANCIENT AT 20 YEARS OLD ILL NEVER MAKE IT
I WANTED TO BE A PRO I WANTED TO MAKE MY COMICS

[Anonymous No.5190785]

>>5190783
AND THIS is now
Literally zero improvement

[Anonymous No.5190789]

This is drawing related and content
Resources I've used
>Loomis
>Proko
>Marco Bucci
>Eviston
>Keys to Drawing
>Right side of the brain
>Vilppu
>Perspective made easy
and more I prolly forgot, nothing works I cant improve
I want to cry

[Anonymous No.5190793]

Let me share with you something
There is this artist I now hate with all my heart called Masaaki Yuasa, he uses watercolor and simplistic shapes
I loved his drawings

[Anonymous No.5190797]

>>5190793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXYlFuWEuKI
>>5190793
I tried so hard to copy his style many times, it was fun but I failed

[Anonymous No.5190799]

>>5190797
Im shutting down my ego as not to suffer more trauma from failing

[Anonymous No.5190801]

and more watercolor failures
I already know Im talentless

[Anonymous No.5190802]

Posting his style again

[Anonymous No.5190804]

How long do you plan to keep this up?

[Anonymous No.5190806]

>>5190785
>zero improvement
you literally regressed

[Anonymous No.5190809]

I dont get watercolor, just like I get nothing about art and drawing, shameful
it makes me suffer
and this is what led to me completely banning watercolor from my life, I destroyed everything got rid of everything related to it
THIS person on /beg/ did this on their first ever attempt at using WATERCOLOR
FIRST EVER ATTEMPT
Im broken inside, Ill always fail, conciousness was a mistake, oblivion will grant me peace

[Anonymous No.5190810]

So I love when you call unexpected
'Cause I hate when the moment's expected
So I'ma care for you, you, you
I'ma care for you, you, you, you, yeah

[Anonymous No.5190812]

My tears are just habit at this point, they're sure to happen, they're expected every single day, I regret existing, so i love when you call unexpected

[Anonymous No.5190813]

>>5190774
Then do it already and stop shitting the board

[Anonymous No.5190814]

Why is it like this? And here we go again, i regret existence

[Anonymous No.5190817]

>>5190763
Every time you post a budding artist quits prematurely

[Anonymous No.5190820]

[Anonymous No.5190822]

I'll never be good at drawing
>>5190806
those weren't serious attempts, theres no construction

[Anonymous No.5190824]

>>5190763
>How can I deal, how should I deal with being the worst artist on /ic/?
keep making these threads so that maybe the attention you get will fill the narcissistic hole you have instead the of skill you're too afraid of failing to acquire
I thought maybe in your period of absence from spamming these shitty threads you realized how pointless this is and just drew. guess not
I feel a bit ashamed to say from reading your threads over time I know more about you than i really want to. the fucking avian, lizard, eating vilppu, all that shit. you made me realize I probably spend too much time here as well. what you say in these shitty threads you make is so absurd that you're like a cartoon character in my eyes, and I'm mildly invested in your character arc. I find myself kinda rooting for you in a relatable battle with mediocrity.
I think you have what it takes to make it but you're so cripplingly obsessed with failure and comparing yourself to others that you never will. maybe a different path will make you a happier person.

also therapy.

[Anonymous No.5190828]

Why can't I improve? I'm fucking ancient at 20 years old, I'll never be good at anything
My consciousness is to blame, a bullet to the brain will expand me in all directions

[Anonymous No.5190831]

Im pathetic, Im a fucking tapeworm, a parasite before art, Im a failed fetus, a sin against life, Im a teratoma invading the womb of artistic success
Im living thinking cancer

[Anonymous No.5190839]

at 2 months the thought never crossed my mind, during month 3 it was yet to come and take form
on month 4 he was born, the increased awareness of our lack of talent

[Anonymous No.5190841]

>>5190824
How can you root for this retard? He is a fucking maggot on our magnificent pile of shit and posts his maggot shit on every thread he appropriately can.

[Anonymous No.5190842]

month 5 and the desperation grows, pure hatred flowing in my veins, and now month 6 we have been so utterly crushed and defeated that success is now regarded as a logical impossibility, it will never happen, it's useless to attempt, failure wraps all around me like the ocean, to drown is the only option

[Anonymous No.5190843]

I, like many other anons, fruitlessly tried legitimately helping you and giving you advice and each and every time you come back here to shitpost
I await the day mods finally get off their ass and ban you for good

[Anonymous No.5190846]

It's now considered law, I can't become an artist, it is said with full certainty
>>5190843
and what was your help? tell me so i can tell you why it failed, exactly why i failed at it

[Anonymous No.5190849]

>>5190846
to stop shitposting and get some patience

[Anonymous No.5190853]

This anon was right and so was the one that wrote this >>5190774
I only want to know the why? I don't care for solving it anymore I know I can't, I know I can't improve, in fact I better get used to my chains because they can never be removed
>>5190849
Im not shitposting, i write all of this wiping away my tears, i can barely hold it together

[Anonymous No.5190856]

I even failed at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJYGFwGhHnA
Explain THAT HOW CAN YOU FAIL AT THAT?

[Anonymous No.5190858]

>>5190849
pATIENCE you say yet look at this progress that someone else experienced, count the months go ahead

[Anonymous No.5190860]

>>5190849
>>5190858
go on come on count the months

[Anonymous No.5190862]

>>5190849
>>5190858
>>5190860
100 days
so why cant i? and dont give me the everyone does so at their own rate bullshit
you people love saying it's just a skill, anyone can do it right? guess what, thats A LIE

[Anonymous No.5190865]

my bodies a while ago a were below his DAY ONE
>>5190862

[Anonymous No.5190867]

>>5190853
Sounds like you haven't become familiar enough with improvement
to accurately estimate the rate you're progressing at. It's not none, and it will seldom be consistent. I find that improvement comes in plateaus, and that I don't reap the benefits of practice until a few days after I've put in the work.

Gotta learn to love the hopelessness.
There is magic in the splendor and desire to surrender.

[Anonymous No.5190869]

>>5190824
>you're so cripplingly obsessed with failure and comparing yourself to others that you never will. maybe a different path will make you a happier person.

even though I'm not as much as a faggot about it as op i feel like this applies to me as well
literally every time i see art i like i look up the artist's age and get depressed when they're younger than me, or if they're older than me and drew better than me when they were younger than me
fucking inexcusably large amount of time wasted to me crying over what could be solved by using that time actually drawing

[Anonymous No.5190872]

So why am I the only one that fails like this? with no progress? why cant I do it? I just want to find the answer, the definitive answer as to why
Talent is real and Im proof of it by having none of it, Im negative talent
Itd take me 10 years and thats a huge if to draw like someone would do in 3
>>5190867
Lies and you know it, people love to lie to me here on /ic/ tell me that Im doing ok for 6 months and thats a huge lie

[Anonymous No.5190877]

>>5190867
Fuck you read this>>5190806
I LITERALLY REGRESSED

[Anonymous No.5190880]

>>5190853
>Im not shitposting, i write all of this wiping away my tears, i can barely hold it together
Nigga. You've been drawing for SIX MONTHS. You're not going to magically improve overnight. And you need to stop caring so much about visual improvement. Building a positive mindset is so fucking important to prevent burn-out so you can keep drawing, and everyone ignores this. You need to have fun while drawing. You can improve on things that aren't visible too, like building a foundation/mental library by simply drawing anything, which will help you later on so you don't have to hard reference everything.
So help me god if I ever catch you in an alley I'm going to tear your ass up.

[Anonymous No.5190881]

>>5190877
That's fucking metal.

[Anonymous No.5190882]

>>5190824
>I feel a bit ashamed to say from reading your threads over time I know more about you than i really want to. the fucking avian, lizard, eating vilppu, all that shit. you made me realize I probably spend too much time here as well.
Same here, I was doomed pilled about talent but seeing the schizo ramping that same mentality up to 11 made me realize how absurd and harmful can it be, specially when he actually started good here >>5190872 and its regressing heavily the more the schizo takes over.

[Anonymous No.5190888]

wHY IS TIME so important to me? why obsess over every single month? Because im 20 years old and that means Im on the last year of neuroplasticity to ever become good at something, THIS MEANS AT BEST I HAVE THIS YEAR TO PICK SOMETHING AND KEEP AT IT FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE

I WASTED 6 MONTHS OF MY LIFE OF MY LIMITED TIME ON DRAWING
Under this knowledge, should I quit and why?

The choices are either
DRAWING (6 MONTHS OF FAILURE, TALENTLESS)
MUSIC( REMAINS TO BE SEEM, AGE IS PROBLEMATIC TOO OLD)
WRITING(NOT MY FAVORITE, THE SETTLING CHOICE, REMAINS TO BE SEEN)
NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY PRIMAL DESPERATION?

[Anonymous No.5190893]

One kind anon once asked me, why do you want to make comics long ago? what is it even about? one of my ideas was to make a romance comic about MKULTRA, and I know it sounds shitty but I have many stories and characters I want people to know, I know it could have been good had I been someone else, had I been someone with talent

[Anonymous No.5190899]

>>5190888
Kek, not only are you schizophrenic but you're stupid too. You have until your 40s until you are anywhere close to fucked, and even then you'd still have the capacity to become good, just never a master.

[Anonymous No.5190900]

I know the ideas the many ideas and characters for my comics, ideas are cheap, and they will be just ideas but I now that if I had talent, they would be good, I know they would but I cant draw
Im racing against time, soon the year will be over a month has already been lost, neuroplasticity diminishing as we speak, my expiration date for any kind of artistic dream, any hope of an artistic legacy

[Anonymous No.5190904]

>>5190899
Name good musicians that started late? Name good artists that started late? writers? Experience is all that matters
My teenage years are foggy so in a way I was born a while ago, Im racing against decay here, I want to become amazing at something
But Im literally regressing in art, everyone agrees, Im done for

[Anonymous No.5190908]

>>5190881
What? Explain yourself
>>5190899
Besides, you're seeing how talentless I am at art, do you think it will make a difference?

[Anonymous No.5190913]

Why cant I improve? The real answer will bring me peace, I must make a decision and soon
I cant afford to give drawing more time if its not going to work out, not a single second of precious time

[Anonymous No.5190916]

>>5190780
He'll never be an artist, he has no desire to be an artist, he's a malfunctioning machine making doodles, is that what I am? Is that how you see me? Then its over for me

[Anonymous No.5190919]

>>5190904
>good musicians that started late
Bill Withers
>Writers
Mark Twain
>Artists
No examples can be found, no good artist started after 30

[Anonymous No.5190925]

>>5190904
Bill Withers, Claude Monet and Van Gogh off the top of my head.
>>5190908
You are talentless, but most people are. Take Marco Bucci, man suffered and sacrificed patiently to get where he is now. You are fucking nothing who spends valuable practice time worrying about shit you should be worrying about during your midlife crisis.

[Anonymous No.5190926]

>>5190919
Help me please im begging you help me
what should I do? all perspectives possible
im crying right now i cant deal with this reality i cant deal i cant fucking deal with it

[Anonymous No.5190929]

>>5190925
>Van Gogh
Nepotism, look into who sold the paintings
>>5190925
I'm talentless, please go into detail I must know all about it

[Anonymous No.5190939]

>>5190929
Okay, you don't like Van Gogh. Are you going to shit on Monet too? Christ. Stop fucking posting and go draw something relaxing and easy for a change.

[Anonymous No.5190942]

>>5190925
Monet started doing caricatures at 11.

Van Gogh is a terrible example as always, not only he is extremely overrated, he had all the support to make it and failed to do so in life. If your goal is to live a shitty life and die in depression by all means go for it.
>>5190926
I can't help myself most of the time so pretty sure I couldn't help you.

[Anonymous No.5190948]

>>5190939
Read
>>5190942
Monet is not an example, there are no good artists that started late, it's impossible, not only is it talent but its also age
So are we in agreement that Im both talentless and too old?
>>5190942
Help me by answering the above and the why

[Anonymous No.5190953]

>>5190774
Anon, you are so fucking lazy you can't even draw a straight line or a proper curve. If you don't put the effort you won't get the results. Just shitting on the page is not the same as drawing. Look at this fucking tower - all of the lines wobble like they are fucking drunk.

[Anonymous No.5190955]

>>5190953
We are on this topic
answer please
>>5190948

[Anonymous No.5190958]

>>5190785
Who cares. Still better than the resident schizo.

[Anonymous No.5190960]

>>5190948
I started from 0 at 31 and I'm 33 right now. I'm still bad however, I draw everyday but I'm always looking for examples of good artists that started after 30 to know it can be done but there is none and /ic/ best examples are always half truths of someone who turned out to be very active in art during childhood.

If you're on your 20s you can easily make it and become good, there is a shitload of good artists that started on the 20-30 age range, AztoDio comes to mind.

Since I'm bad myself I have nothing I could teach you, your art shows that after hitting the 4 month mark you were doing well but you started schizoposting and from repeating those lies over and over it has become a reality and your work is getting worse on top of you getting worse. You have all the keys to make it the moment you drop the schizo routine, but I know you won't because your narcissism is off the charts.

[Anonymous No.5190961]

>>5190958
what?

[Anonymous No.5190979]

Does goroposter still break into a Kanye lyric? That shit was too funny

[Anonymous No.5190981]

>>5190824
I hope someone beats him. I know that if he was my brother screeching like this I would have.

[Anonymous No.5190986]

>>5190842
You have no hatred. Only shit in your veins. People who hate either off themselves or put in actual effort.

[Anonymous No.5190992]

>>5190960
Lies, this was on month 4
>>5190904
month 5

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5190993]

month 4

[Anonymous No.5190994]

>>5190926
There is no one who can help you.
And there is no need for help.

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5190996]

month 4
another failure

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5190997]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic8j13piAhQ
failed at gesture month 4

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191000]

gesture month 5

[Anonymous No.5191001]

>>5190955
I'm 34, I don't give a fuck.

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191002]

Fever dream high in the quiet of the night
You know that I caught it (Oh yeah, you're right, I want it)
Bad, bad boy, shiny toy with a price
You know that I bought it (Oh yeah, you're right, I want it)

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191004]

month 6
>>5190810
>>5190785
>>5190774
>>5190768

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191006]

WHY AM I TALENTLESS?
SOMEONE EXPLAIN IT IN DETAIL PLEASE
>>5191001
You'll never make it, that's statistics
fAILURE month 5

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191008]

month 5

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191010]

month 6>>5190789
>>5190820
pic related is month 5

[Anonymous No.5191011]

>>5191006
>You'll never make it, that's statistics
And so? I draw in my free time, it's not like I depend on drawing to eat. Even if I need another 3 years to get where I want and still won't make money off it I don't care.

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191012]

>>5190925
>You are talentless
TELL ME NOW WHY WHY AM I TALENTLESS? SHOULD I GIVE UP
I FAILED AT DOING AUTOMATIC DRAWING, EXPLAIN THAT

[Anonymous No.5191013]

>>5191001
Based

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191017]

>>5190925
>You are talentless, but most people are. Take Marco Bucci, man suffered and sacrificed patiently to get where he is now. You are fucking nothing who spends valuable practice time worrying about shit you should be worrying about during your midlife crisis.
TELL ME WHAT YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT ME
TELL ME WHY I CANT IMPROVE
TELL ME WHY IM TALENTLESS
TELL ME IF I SHOULD QUIT

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191018]

lOOMIS lied to me
Not everyone can learn to draw
Loomis is now maggot food for all of eternity
>>5191017
month 5

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191020]

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191022]

SOMEONE ANSWER
WHY AM I TALENTLESS? SHOULD I QUITWHY CANT I IMPROVE WHY ARE OTHERS IMPROVING IN LESS TIME
WHY CANT I DO AUTOMATIC DRAWING FROM IMAGINATION I DID IT BUT IT LOOKS SHITTY
WHY CANT I IMPROVE

[Anonymous No.5191023]

>>5191012
>>5191017
Its called being a normie and its an incurable condition. You will work four times harder than a talented person to get to the same plain of skill, but it will be worth it in the end if you actually like drawing. Alternatively you could quit, and search for whatever your actual talent is, your choice.

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191027]

MONTH 5 REGRESSION
>>5191023
>>5191023
GO FURTHER IN DETAIL
EXAMPLES MORE DATA
I CANT AFFORD TO WASTE MORE TIME IF ITS NOT GOING TO WORK OUT
im Not Currentyl justifying my existence my energy consumption
>>5190981
>>5190986
>>5190979
Silence human, primate

[Anonymous No.5191028]

>>5190763
these threads are annoying as fuck
just kill yourself if you think you're ngmi after complaining this much

[Anonymous No.5191029]

>>5191027
Sup janitor. How ya doin?

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191030]

month 5
>>5191028
Shut the fuck up human either help or answer but fuck off

[Anonymous No.5191035]

this thread is insufferable no wonder you're shit at drawing after 6 months
this faggot has been bitching and moaning in every fucking thread all day instead of actually drawing

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191037]

>>5191035
4 hours a day average, keep coping talent is real
statistics say none of us are going to make it

[Anonymous No.5191039]

>>5191028
based and cyanide pilled

[Anonymous No.5191040]

>>5191037
Show us your basic forms, retard, planes, cylinders, cubes and so on.

[Anonymous No.5191044]

>>5191027
>>5191037
Going to shill Feng Zhu, the man is right about the patience and work necessary to get good at drawing. He expects it to take roughly 6 months for a self taught beginner to start seeing real gains at 6/hours a day of practice every single day, and his school grinds students at 12/16 hours a day for a year and see's real success training people in the 20's-30's range.
https://fzdschool.com/blog_posts/before-after

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191045]

I won't leave /beg/ I won't leave /ic/ until I get my answer
>>5191040
No, even failed dynamic sketching, never got the organic shapes and contours did some attempt and never tried again since I dont have the talent for them

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191047]

>>5191044
Making me waste more time? Read this
>>5190888
and this >>5191022
Why are you so sure it would work on someone that has experienced no progress or actually regressed in 6 fucking months
diminishing returns tell me
>>5190772

[Anonymous No.5191049]

>>5191030
You've been at this for 7 months
Quit you fat retard

[Anonymous No.5191050]

>>5190925
>Take Marco Bucci, man suffered and sacrificed patiently to get where he is now
Not schizo, can you give me a rundown on Marco Bucci's life?

[Anonymous No.5191052]

>>5191045
And into the trash you go.
I said earlier in the thread that you don't put in the effort and we can clearly see it here. You just drag your pencil over paper without thinking and then spend a couple seconds to kinda put some lines here and there, again without thinking why you are putting them down or why they should be exactly there.
As long as you will do this shit instead of learning how to draw lines and 3D forms you will never improve much no matter what else you do. Because you can't compete in running if you refuse to even tie your shoelaces.

[Anonymous No.5191053]

>>5191050
Not that anon but I'm not sure why he said marco bucci suffered. Marco bucci was inspired to paint at a very early age by pixar and disney movies and eased his way into the business as a professional painter that also teaches

[Anonymous No.5191054]

>>5191047
Because you're being impeded by untreated mental illness(es) that are impeding your judgement, ability to think rationally and forcing you into an unhealthy cycle of negativity that you reinforce through the use of /ic/ crabs.
>>5191050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDPnlsJ1zG4&t=2027s

[Anonymous No.5191056]

>>5191049
6 months
>>5191052
So how can I learn to do that
All the resources listed here failed >>5190789
What makes you think that your new one will be dofferent? So which rrsource will teach me that and a timeline?

[Anonymous No.5191058]

>>5191052
I dont understand the concept it just doesnt work
I cant grasp contours and we alr3ady tried lots of things

[Anonymous No.5191059]

>>5191054
He called me talentless
Read this and marco bucci never suffered hrs all talent
He was drawing as a child
>>5190925
Ask him
No one who ever started as shit or talentless can bevome good
See this post

[Anonymous No.5191066]

>>5190853
>>5191052
>>5191054
Read this brutal truth post I linked

[Anonymous No.5191067]

>>5191056
>>5191058
It's not the resources. It's you. Get a fucking Blender if you can't do it from the page, make some 3d blobs and see how the polygon belts go over the model from different angles.

[Anonymous No.5191073]

>>5191045
You should leave /ic/. I left this place and while my art might not have substantially improved, my mental state has. Also, stay off social media unless you're just looking at stuff that makes you happy.
This board is overwhelmingly negative.
It gives the beginner the necessary hard truth that they are garbage and need to improve.
What it doesn't give is the "ass kissing", hope, or encouragement that you need to even have the desire to improve after receiving thag harsh truth.
The best comparison for /ic/ is the black pill. It teaches you all of the things that are horrible about the world but doesn't show you how to cope, adjust, or improve life outside of what you can't control.
Your brain is releasing cortisol as we speak.
Cortisol is the polar opposite of dopamine like ying is the opposite of yang.
Cortisol makes you stagnate and even regress because you aren't retaining any knowledge while stressed. Your brain isn't trying to absorb knowledge, its trying to cope and you're just making ir worse by obsessing like this.
Leave this place until you reach a point where you feel comfortable enough to come back.
Or don't come back at all
Even now I just check this place whenever I remember it exists then fuck off.
I got the harsh truth from this board dropped on me back in 2018 and felt so worthless that I stopped drawing for a year. However, there was some real guidance mixes in with the insults.
I was told to drop the shitty wacom intuos small and focus on trad art and studies. That's where I learned about Proko, the pdfs, construction, etc.
It was only after I got over that cortisol filled self-loathing period that I was able to improve.
You need at least a little bit of pride in yourself in order to even want to draw let alone improve.
If you hate everything you make and constantly feel inferior, there is no point in doing this.
Don't be a cuck. Be a kruger with the common sense to kneel when necessary.

[Anonymous No.5191078]

>>5191067
But then that leads me to wonder and question, why cant I get it? Is it normal? Its not, theres this guy on beg who in his first try at that was eay better than me so that means, why cant I get it? And its because im talentlrss so if im going to struggle with everything like that whybother? I want my answer
Look, if I have to suffer more and its not even guaranteed since i had no progress whatsoever in 6 months
6MONTHS then im only going to be suffering way more for rrsults that will TAKE LONGER and im not going to be good because >>5191066
NO ONE WHO EVER STARTED LATE OR SHIT EVER WENT ON TO BECOME AMAZING

[Anonymous No.5191083]

>>5190763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzlNhE7VN8
>thread

[Anonymous No.5191084]

>>5191073
I got myself banned for life from r/learnart it was a hugbox I hated it I became the avian being there
Earned myself 14 days bothered someone until he made it permanent

[Anonymous No.5191087]

>>5191078
But then that leads me to wonder and question, why cant I get it? Is it normal?
If you don't even try? Yes, it's normal. It's not that you can't learn, you are just not even trying. Spending half a minute to glance at a page and then even less to put down some scribbles is not learning.

[Anonymous No.5191088]

>>5191083
Gove me the rundown onthe vid
I had fun doing this one I was trying to draw like one of my heroes and Iliked it
When time came to burn all of them in another episode of me being a reptile
I couldnt burn it, its still with me
I liked it
>>5190797

[Anonymous No.5191094]

Tomorrow ill ask reddit to give me the cold hard truth
>>5190801
I destroyed this one
All drawings before month 5 even the practice, all those pages have been destroyed
Soon the reptile brain will burn all the others in anger

[Anonymous No.5191096]

>>5191084
>Got banned from fucking learn art
AHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.5191098]

>>5191054
Thanks for the video, it was a very good insight. Doesn't sound like the guy had a hard life at all however.

[Anonymous No.5191103]

>>5191087
Fuck you, not a single draeing showed potential, im too old to be a pro, im too old to b3 amazing
Its over
Not a single draei g i made has been decent, itS OVEranon, anon, i failed at doibg the automatic drawing? Why? I cant answer that i fear the answer
Maybe I have no imagination no minds eye maybe thats the reasin I cant improve
I dont think in 3D I cant see things like that do you like taylor swift? Her music is pretty fun making a agame is hard but artstyle is the main thing
Fucking hell, is it always this hard? Just get it to give up already do do yoyu ike taylor swift or not because I think shes fun haha yeah I think shes fun

[Anonymous No.5191109]

>>5191098
Sacrificing a lot of your youth is a pretty big sacrifice.

[Anonymous No.5191111]

>>5191096
I told them about being am avuan being
Wantintg to eat others
I have a very strong bite

[Anonymous No.5191118]

>>5191109
Its not since hes taleNted
Still shitty example
IM TOO OLD AND TOO TALENTLESS

[Anonymous No.5191126]

>>5191103
No one cares about potential. No one cares about what it could have been. The only thing that matters is what actually came down on the page. You want to learn? Draw fucking circles and cubes each day until they actually look like circles and cubes, yes you should also draw what you like, but you should start with drawing the basics until they look good. Do it slowly if you can't understand what you are doing. Copy. You don't know shit about musicians - they train each day, start with basic exercises and go on to more complex ones and only then switch to what they want to perform or learn of actually complex things. It takes hours. Because they need to keep their limbs in shape and muscle memory not rusty.

[Anonymous No.5191130]

>>5191126
Stupid fuck
I ALRRADY DID THAT 2 MO THS AGO
every day I would grind
Circles spheres cylinders ovals lines of all kind ghosting lines ghosting planes
NOTHING HAPPENED

[Anonymous No.5191140]

>>5191130
You don't stop drawing them until you are much better. Hell even top tier artists still do them just in a more complex way with automatic drawing when they just fill the pages with first thing that comes to their mind. You didn't show a single proper circle, oval or even a properly curved or straight line. You didn't even start.

[Anonymous No.5191141]

>>5191126
During four months I did that
Well nothing happened
My problem is a lack of talent
EXPLAIN MY "PROGRESS"(REGRESSION) VS >>5190858
>>5190862

[Anonymous No.5191144]

>>5190961
See:
>>5169697

That guy has been posting threads like this for years and it never improves. He doesn't complain, he doesn't say much, sometimes he asks for advice, but the important part is he just keeps filling threads with drawings every day. He has another thread for his paintings. The resident schizo draws more than most of /ic/.

And here you are, bitching and moaning about 5 or 6 months of drawing. I never thought I would respect schizo guy more than someone who can draw something even slightly resembling a human... yet here we are.

[Anonymous No.5191148]

You made this exact thread last saturday too. Stop it, kill yourself

[Anonymous No.5191151]

>>5190763
Well, I don't draw (I will soon, I promise ;_;), so you're better than me

[Anonymous No.5191152]

Im never gping to improve
Im talentless
This one art friend (BTW YOU FUCK YOUR ART SUCKED HAHAHAHA) tried to tell me that there was a "smart" way to learn but refused to tell me and help me until i stopped coming to /ic/
I told him to fuck off I hate him I hate him I hate him
He had nnothing because im talentless
Theres no way to learn
Ill use LSD he said he didnt want me to become some cautionary tale or some bs like that Ill use LSD to become a full time poster SPREADING THE TRUTH ABOUT TALENT LOL AND YOULL ALL SEE TALENT IS REAL BECAUSE I HAVE NONE
>>5191140
Fuck you dude lol
Your method sucks theres no fixing negative talent

[Anonymous No.5191158]

>>5191144
Hs a defective machine with no aspiration whatsoever
Im a defective talentless machine with too much aspirations
Im beyond selfaware
Im talentless
>>5191140
Youre right, 4 months ago and soemtimes now I put inrral effort
We dedicate less energy to that, we are less efficient now
Im too traumatized from constant failure to learn
Its useless
Im talentless

[Anonymous No.5191160]

It doesn't matter if you are trolling. You are crazy. Your shitposting really takes a lot of effort. You are the wide-eyed masturbating homeless man sniffing crack off another's ass. Hanging yourself would make you happier than you are now. What a unique experience, coming on this site. I would never meet anyone like you in real life, not in a million years.

[i must OD on LSD to endure bei(...) No.5191161]

>>5191148
Fuck you.why cant I improve
Give me your opinion
>>5191151
Bragging about your soon to be discovered talent? Classic primate

[Anonymous No.5191163]

>>5191158
Anon, if you can't draw a straight line even with a rule you are not talentless - you are just a fucking sperg.

[OD on LSD No.5191165]

>>5191160
EVERYONE READ TBIS POST
Is he right?
Ahould I put a bullet in my brain?
ILL NEVER BE AN ARTIST
6 FUCKING MONTHS WASTED

[Anonymous No.5191168]

>>5191165
It's more than that. You wasted like 30 years of your life. Or however old you are.

[Anonymous No.5191170]

drawing really filters the weak willed faggots huh

[Anonymous No.5191175]

WHY SHOULD I CONTINUE TO DRAW WHEN I WASTED 6 MONTHS WITH NOPROGRESS, negative talent, and I dont even show potential?
Why bother?
R/leaenart LIED TO ME
Told me I was doibg fine for someone 6 months in LIES THOSE ARE ALL LIES
I WANT TRUE FEEDBACK NOW!!!
>>5191168
Heres the thing since im not really a human being ill jist get up from shooting myself in the head

[Anonymous No.5191176]

>>5191170
Every isolated hobby/job does. Fucking look at computer science lmao. Instead of turning these guys into schizos it turns them into programmer socks wearing bald trannies.

[Anonymous No.5191178]

>>5191175
sometimes I fantasize that you're an angel that's baiting us humans into saying bad stuff. Please forgive me. I don't want you to hang yourself

[Anonymous No.5191179]

>>5191170
Im strong willed when it matters
If I had positive progress I literally wouldnt complain
On month 1 2 and 3 there was not a single peep, I was doing just fine but month4 and onwards
I knew I was talentless from day one but wgen I realizes others were improving way faster, I broke

[Anonymous No.5191183]

>>5191178
We are both going tobe maggot food for all of eternity
Ill return to the eternal void of death, forever in peace
Why cant I improve anon?

[Anonymous No.5191186]

>>5191183
God will forgive you in the end as well

What do you think? If a man owns a hundred sheep, and one of them wanders away, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the hills and go to look for the one that wandered off?
Matthew 18:12

[Anonymous No.5191191]

Im sorry, this episode this wave its not me
I just wanted to draw for fucks sake but wvryone including me calling me talenltess or the worst artist on /beg/ seeing how I struggle with trying to get 3D I want peace you know, I wanted to be good and I know I had fun so I enjoy this
Something is just brokeninside me, I cant draw
Im traumatized from failure without progress
>>5191186
I dont like that religion bye

[Anonymous No.5191193]

>>5191191
keep the dream alive, fren

[Anonymous No.5191198]

Even my fucking family lies to me
Yeah thanks sis Imsure a non artist can ever hope to get crit
I just wanted to draw, I wanted this, I needed it
I just broke, do you have any idea how it feels to know today you'll fail and get worse and tomorrow will be the same?

[Anonymous No.5191205]

I ee that artists draeing in digital experience faster progress so maybe I should get one but then again, I dont want to invest in something Ill just fail at
You didnt get my thought process, for you it's easy to say, yeah I failed but I'll get better
You've had victories before, you overcame, that's not something I know, never have I been able to become good at something I wasn't already good at.

[Anonymous No.5191209]

My internal monologue when I draw, it's not even mine so I cant really do the think in shapes curves and line, theres no room left for me to think about that, Im fucked.

[Anonymous No.5191213]

>>5191193
No, methaporically speaking I'm going to lobotomize my dreams when it comes to drawing, my ideas are probably stupid, I'm no Moebius, I'll never be like him, I'm no Yuaaa or the Alita guy, I'll never ever be able to draw my comics.
I'll kill those ideas, I'll lobotomize them, get rid of those characters, those settings, who gives a shit, after 6 months I cannt even draw them Im not brave enought to fail so they deserve to die

[Anonymous No.5191216]

Aspirations give me suffering, I'm trash that wanted to be more,I'ma bottom feeder, human shaped cancer, I'll never ever be good at something, but drawing is the one thing that I managed to hold onto for the longest
6 MONTHS thats a new record

[Anonymous No.5191218]

>>5191000
Damn, how?

[Anonymous No.5191220]

>>5190862
Japs learn their symbols by copying the art they like non-stop.
Most of the advice of this board is to *get rid* of symbols, which makes it difficult to draw from imagination. Most anons here don't understand that the 'unlearn symbol drawing' thing is strictly for learning how to draw from life so you could learn new, better symbols.

The reality is that it's way easier for the brain to learn 2D abstractions (symbols) than 3D forms, so we need symbols if we wanna draw on our own.

[Anonymous No.5191221]

Why am I so trash? No one helps me, no one can, mypersonality will never amount to anything, in truth yeah I accept it, I'm talentless, I've failed to justify my existence, I just can't kill myself yet out of pure habit
Kf aomeone could guide me ti the thing that will work the one thing that will Be the FUCKING START of my dream
6 months wasted trying to find iIndependent tought is a new thing to me

[Anonymous No.5191225]

Even an avian being like me has a waifu so I failed that one too

[Anonymous No.5191231]

It is hour 3 of Ops daily tantrum, and there is no sign he has learned anything, and has now regressed back into thinking he's a fucking bird.

[Anonymous No.5191239]

>>5191158
>Hs a defective machine with no aspiration whatsoever
Wow way to assume. You don't know shit about schizo's aspirations.

>Im a defective talentless machine with too much aspirations
Then leave or go draw. You have had this explained to you over and over again.

[Anonymous No.5191260]

>>5190768
I drew for 3 years before I even got remotely good.

[Anonymous No.5191278]

Might just be me but a lot of the drawings and portraits here have a lot of soul and aren't bad in my eyes.

You're going to make it.

[Anonymous No.5191284]

OP you need mental help. go see a professional.

[Sage No.5191441]

Imagine acting like the biggest retard imaginable and getting positive feedback for it

[Anonymous No.5191749]

You don't improve because because you are a self-loathing, simpering faggot. You say you want help, but you reject all advice you get and only internalize the criticisms.
You aren't where you thought you'd be six months into drawing, and now you are purposely spiralling down into a hole of self-hatred, probably just for the attention since you obviously don't want any help.
You want people to tell you you're shit, and you make these threads and act the way you do to ensure that this happens. You don't need drawing advice, you need therapy.
Your drawings are about what anyone could expect from only six months of practise. You get harsh criticisms because you're fucking annoying. People are trying to drive you off the board so you'll stop hijacking and ruining threads.
You need to stop drawing until you're in a better place mentally.

[Anonymous No.5191751]

>>5190763
are you still here?!

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191977]

>>5191260
Lies
>>5191278
Fuck you I dont need your pity, it's over.
>>5191284
FUCK YOU
>>5191441
>pOSITIVE FEEDBACK
so lies and pity?
>>5191751
The fuck you want with me?

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191987]

I GOT called a retard on /beg/ SO THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF ME HUH?
>>5191598
Its over
>>5191239
Im right
>>5191218
Dont pretend its even decent
ILL NEVER BE ABLE TO MAKE MY COMICS

[Anonymous No.5191992]

Is pic related your artwork?

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5191995]

>>5191992
No, why?

[Anonymous No.5192000]

>>5191995
There was a guy who was as crazy as you but in the opposite direction. He was a /beg/ and he would go on insane tirades about how everyone is jealous of his work (the pic I posted was his grand masterpiece). At least you're better than him.

[CRUEL SUMMER No.5192002]

>>5192000
Ar least I'm better than him? Woah fucking thanks, nothing more I'd love to hear, wait a minute I can actually get moebius on call and tell him hey guess what im fucking better than some fuck on /beg/ that means that theres no problem at all, 6 months wasted? why worry when Im better than some fucking failure.
Thanks for nothing asshole

[Anonymous No.5192020]

>>5192002
>Woah fucking thanks
My pleasure.

[Anonymous No.5192025]

>>5192020
die, asshole
tell me why am i talentless?

[Anonymous No.5192040]

>>5192025
You are just severely mentally ill but you choose to stay sick instead of getting help/helping yourself. Sucking at art is only a symptom of that.

[Anonymous No.5192047]

>>5192040
So would you agree that I SHOULD BE BETTER AT 6 MONTHS HUH? TELL ME

[Anonymous No.5192048]

>>5192025
Because you're a whiny retard like >>5191749 said, shut the fuck up and draw what you you want to draw, the fuck do you even want to draw? If you want to acctually make comics just go to /co/ this place is for pretentious retards and weebshitters who endlessly fight about art value and patrayon

[Anonymous No.5192057]

>>5192048
>>5191749
lias, ITS NOT NORMAL FOR ME TO FAIL LIKE THIS, I SHOULD BE BETTER
THE FACT THAT IM NOT PROVES IM NOT MEANT FOR ART
>>5191749
>Your drawings are about what anyone could expect from only six months of practise.
OH YEAH
explain this
>>5190858
>>5190860
>>5190862

[Anonymous No.5192059]

>>5190856
>>5192048
>>5192040
>>5191751
>>5191749
>>5191441
>>5191284
>>5191278
Explain this
Mine had no cool pattern like his or the other videos

[Anonymous No.5192062]

>>5190763
God damn you to hell you self-flagellating faggot.

[Anonymous No.5192063]

>>5192062
Cope, talent is real and Im negative talent
check this
>>5190774
>>5190783
>>5190772

[Anonymous No.5192069]

>>5192047
You aren't improving because of your tenuous mental state. I can't tell if you're actually sick or if its just your personality.
Now, in the case of the former, being mentally ill isn't a death sentence. It doesn't have to stop you from being an artist. But that's only if you manage it in a healthy way which you aren't doing. The same goes for having a neurotic, self-defeating personality.

It's hard to tell if you're a schizo or just too neurotic but you can get help in either case. But you have to fix the root problem which is whatever is going on inside your head. Whether you need antipsychotics or a self-help book is beyond me but you need to find out what exactly is wrong with you so you can fix it.

Obsessing over your progress at a given skill and throwing fits for months on end is absolutely not normal and indicates that your issue isn't drawing itself, it's you. I can't think of any more ways to say it.

[Anonymous No.5192102]

>>5192069
look at this
>>5192076
>>5192097
>>5192098
>>5192091
and tell me TALENT IS NOT REAL

[Anonymous No.5192103]

>>5192102
I am now going to conclude that you are, in fact, mentally ill. Which makes seeking help even more important, lest your condition worsens.

[Anonymous No.5192149]

>>5192069
You speak lies you wont Im not meant to be an artists
LOOK AT THAT PERSON ONE MONTH IN
YET AT 6 MONTHS I KEEP FAILING
NOT EVERYBODY CAN LEARN TO DRAW

[Anonymous No.5192159]

THIS IS SNEEDPOSTING GENERAL

[Anonymous No.5192173]

>>5192103
>>5192069
WHAT reSOURCE wILL WORk ON us?
Nothing because to draw to become an artist you must be CHOSEN

[Anonymous No.5192180]

>>5191987
>Dont pretend its even decent
Dude, lmao I was just wondering how did you fuck up gesture so fucking bad. Bunch of spaghetti lines all over the place and no clear vision of the subject.

[Anonymous No.5192182]

>>5192180
THIS MOTHERFUCKER DOESNT KNOW ABOUT NICO
HAHAHAHAHAHHA

[Anonymous No.5192183]

>>5192180

[Anonymous No.5192184]

>>5192180
My hatred for Vilppu grows and grows, hunger

[Anonymous No.5192208]

>>5190880
I should BE BETTER AT 6 MONTHS
STOP LYING TO ME IM A FAILURE

[Anonymous No.5192211]

>>5190763
Everyone here is the worst artist on /ic/
this place has special properties

[Anonymous No.5192219]

WHY CANT I IMPROVE? I WANT THE REAL ANSWER
I WONT STOP UNTIL I GET IT

[Anonymous No.5192436]

bump I want to know the reason

[Anonymous No.5192442]

I hid this thread.

[Anonymous No.5192448]

>>5192442
TEL TELL ME WHAT I DO WRONG
DONT IGNORE ME
THE AVIAN WLL KILL US BOTH

[SwiftieDev !!JYxhEa9GOwe No.5192450]

>>5192448
Youre not me

[Anonymous No.5192473]

>>5191109
The guy was casually strolling on Italy for learning art. I had to sacrifice my youth to keep myself alive on shit odd jobs.

[Anonymous No.5192493]

>>5192473
>Nono guys I am not successful because my parents were rich and I had everything on a silver platter and no worries and no issues, it was all HaRd WeRk
>Yes! That's right! You, yes, you, you live in Uganda and your only goat has died, but I'll be damned if you are not a concept artist right now because you didn't put in that HaRd WeRk!
>Also I just happened to draw the most bland shit imaginable, I just has this unexplainable passion for bland things that sell! And other things that made me successful but
>H a R d W e R k did it all, just sit and draw, every day, like really really really hard all the time
>because as you can see the art world rewards merit and not pandering or lies or whoredom
>I hope this motivated you to keep buying my tutorials! And don't forget to like and subscribe and donate to my Patreon!

[SwiftieDev !!JYxhEa9GOwe No.5192496]

>>5192493
>>5192473
YES YES YES NOW YOURE UNDERSTANDING THE HOPELESSNESS OF IT NOW YOURE SEEING THE WORLD LIKE I DO
ITS ALL A WAITING ROOM FOR FAILURE

[Anonymous No.5192497]

if it makes you feel better, that is very unlikely

[SwiftieDev !!JYxhEa9GOwe No.5192499]

>>5192497
NO IT IS IM THE WORST ARTIST HERE
IVE BEEN REGRESSING IN MY "SKILL"
CHECK THIS
>>5190772
>>5190785
>>5190783
>>5190806
ZERO IMPROVEMENT
IT IS OVER FOR ME

[Anonymous No.5192500]

>>5192496
I think everyone with half a brain has realized long ago that all this motivational shit is a Ponzi scheme to keep you chasing the carrot and consooming instructional shit.

[Anonymous No.5192503]

>>5190842
full pic of the drawing on top please

[SwiftieDev !!JYxhEa9GOwe No.5192510]

>>5192503
IT WONT BE GIVEN TO YOU
I refuse to help you
>>5192500
The More Talented WISH TO TRICK YOU into wasting your limited time
THE MORE TALENTED ARE sadistic
they dont understand what it feels like to be an abomination with no talent
THEY DONT understand or cant understand
IVE FAILED AND MY FAILURE IS EXPONENTIAL
>>5192499

[Anonymous No.5192526]

>>5192493
I agree with your point, I hate these peddling retards. However Im gonna keep trying to git gud at art

[Anonymous No.5192527]

>>5192526
>However Im gonna keep trying to git gud at art
Yeah I never said that pursuing art is worthless, but 100% of these youtube personalities go through this shit like a checklist and it's really annoying how overly positive they are. None of them even want to admit that art is fucking saturated and you won't be able to do anything you remotely want to do.

[Anonymous No.5192528]

>>5190763
draw something from imagination and no eraser and reply pls

[SwiftieDev !!JYxhEa9GOwe No.5192531]

>>5192528
IT is useless, my drawing materials are BURNING as we speak
IVE WASTED ENOUGH TIME BUT I KNOW THAT UNTIL I GET MY ANSWER ILL TRY AGAIN
THEY CALLED ME
/BEG/ CALLED ME SUNK COST ARTIST AND THEYD BE RIGHT
TODAY WE SHALL ASK REDDIT FOR THE TRUTH THE ANSWER THAT /IC/ REFUSES TO GIVE ME AS TOTHE WHY I CANT IMPROVE
WHY I REGRESSED
WHY I EXPERIENCED NO PROGRESS

[Anonymous No.5192639]

>>5192531
This is why

[Anonymous No.5192641]

>>5190763
are you illustrat or are you brian?

[Anonymous No.5192651]

>>5192639
Im an avian being
>>5192641
NO, IM PRINTER CHAN AS THEY CALLED ME AS THEY INSULTED ME
READ THS
>>5192499

[Anonymous No.5192652]

>>5192641
who's brian?

[Anonymous No.5192663]

>>5190763
hidden

[Anonymous No.5192740]

BUMP
I DONT WANT TO WASTE MORE TIME DRAWING SINCE IM TALENTLESS FOR IT

[Anonymous No.5192782]

fr off topic but some good practices for a novice on drawing?

[Anonymous No.5192797]

https://youtu.be/64fetbSh89s
I think you need to learn this first REEE'ing anon

[Anonymous No.5192828]

>>5191992
this reminds me of the artstation finnish schizo artist, does anybody remeber exactly how was he called?

[Anonymous No.5192903]

>>5190763
try to evolve from avian to lizard

[Anonymous No.5192921]

if you dont like drawing stop drawing lol

[Anonymous No.5192945]

>>5192921
But I do so why cant I improve
Until I get my answer, THE TRUTH i wont stop

[Anonymous No.5192946]

Six months here. Just be gifted like me brah.

[Anonymous No.5192951]

>>5192946
Literally anyone can do such outlines, youre not a true artist since you think THATs gifted

[Anonymous No.5192953]

>>5192951
Why the butthurt me boy? i know i am flawed

[Anonymous No.5192958]

>>5192953
I dont seek to entertain your delusion of being "gifted" I've seen true gifted before I wont let you badmouth their talent by comparing yourself, you're not on their level

[Anonymous No.5192969]

Your drawings aren't bad for 6 months. People vary and you need to just accept that and move on from these retarded threads. So many people give you advice or even compliment your work and yet you just have something to say back to them. Its good you save your work and have all of your drawings because it's a good way to gage even small amounts of progress which has been clear in your drawings. Remind yourself that not every drawing is going to be a MASTERPIECE this is even the case for professionals. Try and enjoy the journey and not fight it you glorious retard. Good luck and don't stop or it truly will be a waste of your time.

[Anonymous No.5192972]

>>5192951
ask the next normal person who "doesn't draw" to draw you a girl in a jacket next time you can and you'll be surprised to realize that no one can fucking draw.

[Anonymous No.5192973]

>>5192958
You are kidding, right? now i got sad for you

[Anonymous No.5192975]

Why do you guys keep replying to him? He makes these threads multiple times a week to waste your time

[Anonymous No.5192976]

>>5192973
Look into Rosetta Stone, you disgust me.
>>5192972
What do you mean? They're not my competition, I'm the worst artist on /ic/
>>5192969
Where's the improvement? Where is it? Lies
I agree with >>5190772
>>5190806

[Anonymous No.5192979]

>>5192828
Sami Ways? He's still going strong

[Anonymous No.5192980]

>>5192975
I don't care about others, I don't care about you, taken to the extreme I would definitely post all by myself, if everyone but me died I would still make a thread about this
>Waste your time
Have you seen your board? I wasn't aware you draw by speaking to other retards about the same tired topics all day

[Anonymous No.5192989]

>>5190783
this sucks and I remember when you posted it months ago
>>5190814
this is a improvement and the kind of practice you should continue doing
>>5190820
this looks fine and again is a improvement from your dog shit Anakin
>>5190904
nice birds, again better then Anakin

I'm done being specific to you though I think I made a point and you'll still ask me to point out something specific and insane which is fine but I'm not going to entertain that further just a warning lol. Either way the vast majority of people do not "make it" in 6 months. It takes years, fucking entire years as with any skill. You're only 20 so just fucking relax. As far as most people are concerned you're still a fucking child. Embrace the time you have.

[Anonymous No.5192993]

https://youtu.be/9rhadTURsrw?t=480
>>5192989
>>5192969
You got me doubting myself again, I thought I was going to quit but I don't know, which resources should I use then?

[Anonymous No.5192995]

STOP REPLYING TO THIS RETARD YOU FUCKING IDIOTS

[Anonymous No.5192996]

>>5192989
>>nice birds, again better then Anakin
They dont count, they take little effort
Im an avian being I need to be able to draw my own species

[Anonymous No.5193003]

>>5192995
Why? The weekly train wrecks are good entertainment. Anon literally thinks he's a bird, shits too funny not to encourage

[Anonymous No.5193013]

>>5193003
Post your art

[Anonymous No.5193020]

>>5193003
how do you know he's not a bird

[Anonymous No.5193107]

>>5192989
>You're only 20 so just fucking relax. As far as most people are concerned you're still a fucking child. Embrace the time you have.
SO ONE YEAR
READ THIS
>>5190888

[Anonymous No.5193111]

>>5190888
I really hate you because you're who I would be if I was more dumb.
Also, programming is an art.

[Anonymous No.5193119]

>he has watched Ping Pong
>he keeps asking if he should quit or not

Yuasa gave you the answer

[Anonymous No.5193122]

>>5192639
is that a cum shot or a parasite
>>5193119
damn

[Anonymous No.5193137]

>>5193119
THATS MY POINT
I WANT PEOPLE TO SAY IT
I WANT PEOPLE TO SAY IT
SO TELL ME ANON HAVE I WASTED 6 MONTHS?

[Anonymous No.5193140]

>>5193137
Didn't you get your spam deleted in /beg/?
Are you ban evading?

[Anonymous No.5193141]

>>5193111
EXPLAIN YOURSELF

[Anonymous No.5193144]

>>5193141
What do you want me to explain? I'm confused.

[Anonymous No.5193147]

>>5193140
I havent been banned anon
this reply would show you the why
>>5193107

>>5193144
Go into detail NOW

[Anonymous No.5193148]

>>5193137
Yes. Do something else with your life

[Anonymous No.5193149]

>>5193148
GO INTO DETAIL OR IT WONT COUNT
DEFINE IT

[Anonymous No.5193152]

>>5193149
You can't think in 3D space
You can't feel the form
You have no imagination
You have no drive
You're mean-spirited and evil
You're borderline schizophrénic
There is no spark, nor passion in whatever you put down on paper

You have
*no talent*

[Anonymous No.5193155]

>>5193149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D07gh5HEKrY

[Anonymous No.5193159]

>>5193152
Thats not specific, those are all things I already know
Think of it as a conversation
What's the main reason Im talentless? Why has progress never been experienced?
What about this post? >>5192989
Why are people still lying?
Btw can you avoid this >>5193152
>schizophrénic
talking with people like you is quite bothersome
LOOK into ROSETTA STONE
>>5193155
Get that hack shit out of here

[Anonymous No.5193160]

>>5193147
Into detail about what? I'll just go into detail about everything:

> I really hate you because you're who I would be if I was more dumb

I am also bipolar and I also have a strong desire to be an artist that is going poorly due to a lack of talent. I've suffered a lot of childhood abuse and the only thing that keeps me going is the thought that one day I will make at least one good piece.

Quite frankly you make me look bad by association of our same mental illnesses. If I can struggle through this, so can you. So you should start.

> Also, programming is an art.

You listed a lot of artistry types -- music, literature, etc. You did not list programming, though. I think that programming is more an art than you might realize. I have a degree in English Literature but I'm actually a software engineer right now because the process of creative writing and the process of programming something are nearly identical. There's just as much room for creative expression with code as there is with English or musical notes on a scale. You should check it out if you are trying other art types.


Now, OP. I put a LOT of effort into this post. Do not schizo-fuck me with some bullshit, ok?

[Anonymous No.5193161]

>>5193159
>What's the main reason Im talentless?
Blame your genes. Why are basketball players super tall? Why are some people short.
You can't control it. You have no talent because your brain isn't made for art
>Why has progress never been experienced?
Because you don't love drawing
Sakuma had zero talent like you but at least he was passionate enough to get *decent*
It wasn't enough to beat someone with natural talent+training but he could at least beat amateurs on a championship

You can't even do that because you don't really love art
You just love the *idea* of being an artist

Quit. Become a monk, a writer, a social worker
Anything else but art

>Why are people still lying?
Because they want you see you waste time here and laugh at you. I'm actually helping you. Do something else, you're gonna waste 6months again trying to be someone you cannot be

[Anonymous No.5193164]

>>5193160
Ill SPEAK AS I WISH YET ILL GRANT YOU A GIFT A SIGN OF GOOD WILL
COHERENCE

over all, coherence
THese people they mock us >>5193152
>>5193155
they hate us, yet their words ring true IM ALREADY a programmer to understand a machine is easy ITS LOGIcal a process A CLEAR CUT PROCESS
I CAN DO THIS YET I DONT WANT THIS
IT IS NOT THE WAY FOR US TO DO SOMETHING
MY EXPERIENCES FROM A CHILDHOOD I SORT OF REMEMBER HAVE MADE ME US WHAT I AM
YET THE AVIAN BEING MUST GET REVENGE
>>5193148
LET IT BE KNOWN, ONE DAY ILL GET REVENGE ON YUASA THAT WILL BE HIS PRICE TO PAY

[Anonymous No.5193165]

>>5193160
>>5193161
Unlike OP, *you* will make it
Because you obviously "love" art
It will take time but you will reach your goal, at the very least you'll get decent

I'm rooting for you anon
Keep fighting your bipolar syndrome btw, don't give up!

[Anonymous No.5193167]

>>5193164
Understanding a machine is a logical process. But writing code is a personal, subjective one. In the same vein, understanding form and perspective and shadow and light is a logical process, but drawing is a personal and subjective one. We are all capable of all of it. It is all the same process.

[Anonymous No.5193168]

>>5193164
don't forget vilppu

[Anonymous No.5193172]

This is what no talent does to a Motherfucker

[Anonymous No.5193173]

>>5193161
YET YOUR MASTERS SPEAK OF NO TALENT, WHAT IS TRUE THEN? POST YOUR ART NOT AS A PRICE FOR YOUR POST TO BE ADMITTED INTO MY MEMORY BUT AS TO SATISFY OUT CURIOSITY>>5193161
YOU ARE WRONG, I LOVE ART SO I SUFFER FROM THIS ONE
THIS ONE DRAWING AND THE TIMES WE TRIED TO BE LIKE YUASA THAT WAS FUN
>>5190797
>>5190793
>>5190802
GENES ARE NOT RELEVANT TO ART
THE RESEARCH IS THERE
SO THERE MUST BE SOMETHING ELSE
I DONT LOVE THE IDEA OF BEING AN ARTIST, I DONT THINK LIKE THAT
>>5193168
HES SMALL TIME
YUASA IS THE MAN THAT MUST PAY
>>5193172
SILENCE MAMMAL, HE COMES AND HELL COME SOON
A TAKEOVER

[Anonymous No.5193175]

Time to drop the act, I'm not the original artist, I'm another facet.
>>5193165
There you show your flawed logic born out of an ulterior motive both OP and >>5193160
are similar, if their struggles are similar the reasons for them must be close, this >>5193152
would therefore apply to this person >>5193160

>>5193161
I'm but a pretender, of the actual mess that did the drawings, they are heartbroken over their drawings, they wanted this, they really did, they are young after all.
Now I on the other hand, I agree with you, but unlike them this agreement comes out of cold hard logic, I understand they and by extension me, we are not good at art
They won't quit no matter what I do, so what can I do?

[Anonymous No.5193179]

>>5193173
I don't want to be doxxed so no, I'm not gonna post my art.
>GENES ARE NOT RELEVANT TO ART
cope
https://www.elitedaily.com/life/culture/creative-gene-people-born-raised-artists/971138

You can lie to yourself however you want, if you loved art you wouldn't bother your fellow artists on this board. You wouldn't have given up so quickly
You are a child, a bird without wings. Waste another 6 months here if you want: a life of mediocrity awaits you nonetheless

[Anonymous No.5193184]

>>5193179
>I don't want to be doxxed so no, I'm not gonna post my art.
So you have but a flawed logic and nothing to back it up?
>>5193160
Whoever you are, remember this applies to you >>5193161
>Because they want you see you waste time here and laugh at you. I'm actually helping you. Do something else, you're gonna waste 6months again trying to be someone you cannot be
Don't forget the truth that comes out of their mouths.
>>5193179
I wish for them to quit art yes, frankly they're a revolting facet, but they're still me, as a parent would love their child, I too care for them.

[Anonymous No.5193186]

>>5193175
Life is not strictly deterministic so no, OP will fail while the other anon will at least achieve something.

Likewise, there are gifted people who waste their talent. People with no drive filter themselves. People who love art will draw shitty things but pour out **soul** into them, and people will appreciate what they created
pic related, I saved it long ago from someone with "no talent" too
I keep it because it shows that true passion and creativity will find a way

[Anonymous No.5193189]

>>5193186
>Life is not strictly deterministic so no,
It is deterministic, I'm not a child like OP, I'm not "mentally young" so allow me to call you out on your mistake.
Art is a flawed pursuit, one most often requiring connections, one that requires luck but one that's also being exploited like no tomorrow, OP loves to cite statistics but they are actually right, statistics say they'll both fail.
I can vouch for their "lack of a creativity", it's a side effect from trauma, they have their work here and then, but again I agree with you, I wish for them to quit art, they're just not going to do it.
They can't take it from you, your words just made them retract, they won't take it from me, so what options do we have left? How can we solve this dilemma?

[Anonymous No.5193194]

>>5193189
>How can we solve this dilemma?
Banish him deep inside your subconscious and don't let this psychopath near any other human being, on the internet or IRL
Basically like this dude did : https://www.theamateurmediablog.com/blog/the-minds-of-billy-milligan-a-crowded-room-in-the-head
(CTRL+F : the undesirable)

[Anonymous No.5193196]

>>5193189
>>5193194
Also: seek therapy

[Anonymous No.5193203]

>>5193194
I have no delusions about being an animal, that is a fucked up thing to do to a child or the equivalent of one anyways, I'm more keen on CBTherapy and perhaps helping them be someone else, if you catch my drift.
By the way, I'm looking into their work, the one that hasn't been scanned, can't find anything I'd call meaningful, they must have destroyed it all in another outburst. They're still me, so I'm not doing that to them, instead, any more peaceful option?

[Anonymous No.5193204]

>>5193203
>They're still me, so I'm not doing that to them, instead, any more peaceful option?

What if you had a tumor and the only way to save you was cutting it
Would you say "It's still a part of my body, I can't cut it" ?
No you wouldn't.
The mind isn't something unified. The "you" from childhood is already dead and yet you don't seem like you have lost anything
This "facet" of yours is the same.
Bury or destroy it while you still can because it kill someone or put you in danger

[Anonymous No.5193205]

>>5193165
Thank you anon. That is a kind thing to say. I am still only just beginning my studies but one day I will show people what is in my heart.

>>5193184
Unlike OP, I realize that the reward is in the pursuit, regardless of possibilty. If I pursue, I know I will grow.

[Anonymous No.5193206]

>>5193204
before it kill someone*

[Anonymous No.5193210]

>>5193203
...is this OP or a LARPER pretending to be OP? or maybe op is a larper i dont fuckin know

i don't know anything about cognitive behavior but if this actually a real illness why dont you just be this person all the time

[Anonymous No.5193211]

>>5193205
Your sketch shows lots of promises! GG
Also, don't forget to draw what you *love*, and not become a study machine.
I don't know what's your goal in art but having fun until the end is the only sure way to keep advancing, so reward yourself!
Good luck!

[Anonymous No.5193212]

>>5193211
My goal in art is to make art for games I program. This mainly means a lot of concept art because I really love text-based games and just want something that will give them more flavor. Hopefully some day I'll be speed painting out nice landscapes and planet rings. :)

[Anonymous No.5193213]

OP's problem comes from massive trauma and the way it manifests itself is a complete avoidance of failure, their brain is completely messed up.
Their lack of creative thinking might stem from the fact that they never used it, many attempts have been made on my end to get them to quit art, they would always dismiss it, now their insistence on this particular hobby is most puzzling to me.
>>5193204
If that tumor came from abuse, if that tumor was somehow necessary, then yes it'd stay right where is.
Cameras monitor him, and I'm good at keeping track of time, the odds of him actually enacting one of his many revenge plans are low.
>>5193210
Different person, same entity. They love to deny it.
>>5193196
I do, but you know how it is, can't always show up, can't always be there for it.

[Anonymous No.5193216]

>>5193210
It's a clear case of Dissociative Identity Disorder
Yes, it works like in the movies. "Split" by Shayamalan was inspired by a real case

The only way to heal these people is to basically only allow one personality to be in control and supress all the others

[Anonymous No.5193217]

>>5193212
What the fuck I forgot to say thank you
thank you

[Anonymous No.5193220]

>>5193213
Do you remember me?
"We" talked on discord for a year before ""you"" ragequitted when I told ""you"" to stop browsing this hellhole
Good to know he won't hurt anyone.

>If that tumor came from abuse, if that tumor was somehow necessary,
MK Ultra survivors managed to lead a normal life, and yet their split was caused by trauma too.
Just become the main personality and only let him out to do harmless things (not art related)

[Anonymous No.5193223]

>>5193212
>>5193217
Text-based games are super cool. I got into them in 2012 and while I don't have much time for them lately I always kept the concept in my heart.
Another reason to root for you.
You're welcome also!

[Anonymous No.5193227]

>>5193210
Everyone has their own motive, OP is the dominant entity these days, there's not a lot that can be done about that.
>>5193220
We haven't talked before, I hope you do know that you could be lying for all I know.
What do you know about their artistic inclination?
>>5193212
Funny, that is their motivation as far as I can tell.

[Anonymous No.5193229]

Shizo got his thread to bump limit, I kneel

[Anonymous No.5193248]

>>5193227
>We haven't talked before
That's too bad.
I had written a bunch of proof but if you don't remember then let it stay like that. I'd rather not associate with "you" anymore, no offense.

Only a doctor can save you. The OP's picture is quite fitting now that we see the full picture

Good luck

[Anonymous No.5193249]

>>5193227
>>5193203
>>5193213
>>5193189
>>5193175
WOAH DUDE YOURE A REAL PIECE OF SHIT
the dAY OF THE AVIAN WONT SHOW YOU MERCY
BETRAYING ME HUH?
>>5193186
>>5193220
OH YOU HAHAHAHAHAH BRO YOUR PATHETIC
THATS YOUR DRAWING
GOD YOURE PATHETIC OIK

[Anonymous No.5193255]

>>5193248
hAHAHAAHA OIK HOW ARE YOU DOING? YOURE PATHETIC
WHY ARE YOU EVEN HERE? YOU LIED TO ME ALL THAT TIME YOU THINK YOURE IMPORTANT HUH
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING I ALWAYS KNEW THIS WAS WHAT YOU THOUGHT OF ME >>5193161
ALL YOUR ENCOURAGEMENT WAS BULLSHIT FITTING FOR SOMEONE LIKE YOU

[Anonymous No.5193256]

>>5193249
>THATS YOUR DRAWING
nope
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/87048125

[Anonymous No.5193258]

>>5193256
Wait
I HAVE YOUR DRAWINGS HOW ABOUT WE SEE SOME OF THEM?
ALL YOUR ENCOURAGEMENT WAS BULLSHIT I KNEW IT ALL ALONG
I WIN
>>5193189
>>5193175
YOURE FUCKED LET ME TELL YOU THAT
THE AVIAN BEING WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU

[Anonymous No.5193267]

>>5190768
>>5190783
>>5190785
You draw like someone who has somewhere to be in 10 minutes and it takes 7 minutes to get there. Slow down and do something without reference. Every artist should have a personal fictional world that they flesh out and build purely from imagination. If you aren't putting your heart and soul into creative drawing, you will literally never make it.

[Anonymous No.5193270]

>>5193267
I HAVE MANY MANY INTERNAL WORDS AND CHARACTERS I DEVELOP I JUST DONT DRAW THEM BECAUSE IT HURTS IF I FAILDO YOU THINK HES RIGFHT
>>5193161
>>5193165
>>5193152
you fuck
ive got your art so thanks for sharing

[Anonymous No.5193271]

This op guy is a real incel huh

[Anonymous No.5193277]

>>5193211
>>5193179
>>5193165
>>5193161
this guy literally lied to me told me that i could improve
so yeah thanks you fucking asshole ive got your art lol
>>5193256
ive got your art lol
>>5193205
you wont make it

[Anonymous No.5193294]

>>5193270
If you're really putting your heart and soul into a drawing, you won't care if it's bad. What you need to do is regulate your thoughts better. It helps to be a little delusional about your skill level, nevermind what critics would have to say. Creative drawing should fill your heart with love, maybe even yearning because it's meant to be an escape to somewhere else. Regarding fundamentals and such, try to exercise your natural imagination's ability to render images, exercising this will slowly (very very slowly) increase your ability to solve problems with 3d objects. You should definitely be practicing simple objects more, like cubes and pyramids in difficult angles and perspectives. Over time, you'll be able to practice such things while working on actual drawings but if you're fundamentals are making you upset to the point of inactivity or giving up, it means you need to think harder about what you're doing.

[Anonymous No.5193299]

>>5193294
Can't you see the guy is a legit schizo?

[Anonymous No.5193305]

>>5193294
Stop wasting your words with the chode. Hes been doing this for months lmao

[Anonymous No.5193306]

>>5193299
We're all a bit fucked or none of us would be here. Everyone has the ability to grow.

[Anonymous No.5193309]

>>5193306
He does it for attention btw

[Anonymous No.5193310]

>>5193161
>>5193165
>>5193179
>>5193211
bro this mf into ntr and talking about genes
MWAHAHAHAHBWHAHAHAH go on frenchie youre literally into ntr and talking about genes hahahahahah
>>5193294
How can I acquire soul? How can I acquire creativity?

[Anonymous No.5193316]

>>5193152
>You're borderline schizophrénic
still butthurt i told you to fuck off?
LMAOHows the elf ntr treating you? keeping you up BWHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Anonymous No.5193321]

>>5193309
Duh.

[Anonymous No.5193324]

>>5193321
Wasting your paragraphs like a 'tard.

[Anonymous No.5193329]

>>5193294
Look the issue is that what if this bastard is right
>>5193148
how to fix that?

[Anonymous No.5193334]

>>5193310
>how can I acquire soul?
The pursuit of it is enough, as unsatisfying of an answer that might be. But it's like looking for purpose in life, you'll find it if that's truly what you're after, but you probably won't know it when it happens. Self-improvement in general will help you. Creativity also needs inspiration to grow, don't be afraid to just straight up steal ideas. Nobody cares about about a beginner's artistic integrity and nobody ever will, so do whatever it takes to become stronger.

[Anonymous No.5193339]

>>5193334
aLRIGHT, thanks
What seems to be my problem again? How to avoid this
ill improve out of spite
>Because they want you see you waste time here and laugh at you. I'm actually helping you. Do something else, you're gonna waste 6months again trying to be someone you cannot be

[Anonymous No.5193350]

>>5193248
Hey bastard, you lied to me about improving, matter of time until i use your art
thanks for giving it to me, consider me revenge

[Anonymous No.5193356]

>>5193339
>What seems to be my problem again?
You won't get anywhere until you see a doctor and start taking your FUCKING MEDS dude.

[Anonymous No.5193360]

>>5193339
Your problem is that you need to get ahold of yourself really. If you really love drawing, you should find something to draw that reminds you how much you love drawing. If not, then draw casually. Doing something without the added pressure of trying to be amazing at something is the best way to improve at it. If you're going to give up, give up but keep drawing anyway.

[Anonymous No.5193370]

>>5193360
So if I want to improve i should just draw for fun, i have some ideas and characters and fine ill draw them without fear of failure
let me know if I have soul in /beg/ ok? deal?

[Anonymous No.5193372]

>>5193370
deal

[Anonymous No.5193373]

>>5193248
i have your art, matter of time until i get my revenge
im not kidding
youve got one chance

[Anonymous No.5193382]

>>5193370
lol sure dude, just make sure to treat those characters with all the love and care they deserve. If you're truly honest with it, the soul should be easy to see.

[Anonymous No.5193393]

>>5193373
These pics are from tumblr or elsewhere m8
Still, sorry dude. I believed in you but I hate to see you suffer like this. Tried to drive you away from /ic/ today so you could improve your mental health

If you keep trying art, at least don't harm yourself
Good luck

[Anonymous No.5193401]

>>5193393
I warned you, Ive got your art so ill get my revenge
dont try to change my mind, you lied to me about improvement so prepare to pay

[Anonymous No.5193411]

>>5193393
LOl prepare to pay OIK prepare to pay
i told you about how things were going to go
YOU LIED TO ME IN DISCORD AND HERE ARE YOUR REAL THOUGHTS
you knew i was wasting my time so you lied to me heres your real thoughts >>5193165
>>5193152
>>5193186
>>5193211
>>5193220

your speech pattern checks out its obviously you
it will take time but you only have yourself to blame
fine by me
youll pay

[Anonymous No.5193419]

>>5193393
this is you btw
>today ill lie to a friend
>actually thinks theyll never make it because they are talentless
>gets doxxed
Yeah its OIK time lol

[Anonymous No.5193427]

>>5193393
Your only chance is to write to that account otherwise ill make sure to fuck you

[Anonymous No.5193438]

>>5193427
I don't use the old one anymore (loss password)
DM me : Oaki#1718

[Anonymous No.5194057]

Your not going to make it since you are a mentally ill weirdo who hates himself. Your mindset is not positive at all. You probably have been sitting and drawing like a complete made man for months while drowning in anxiety and depression. Good soulful work comes from people who enjoy making it, people who like the process.

[Anonymous No.5194413]

>>5194057wahhh wahhhha

[Anonymous No.5194782]

>>5194057
Cope. Talent exists and op doesn't have it