Vent Thread

[Anonymous No.5139224]

>Learn a new technique
>suddenly hate all the art I've ever made thus far
Am I the only one?

[Anonymous No.5139254]

Sometimes I wonder to myself, if I actually get to the level that I want to be at, would I even enjoy drawing enough to even do it? I've been drawing for about six months now, I'm still bad, not really having fun, and the only things I've done up to this point are studies. It looks so fun when I watch the pros do it but shit I don't even know if I want to be there after all.

[Anonymous No.5139258]

>>5139224
What technique?

[Anonymous No.5139274]

I wish there was a place for simple unpersonalized critique. On /ic/ people literally just tell you to kill yourself and never even try again and everywhere else you get a pat on the head with no suggestions on what to improve. Fuck all artists including you.

[Anonymous No.5139283]

>>5139274
Including m-me??

[Anonymous No.5139312]

>>5139254
As someone who spent years like this, all I can say is that it does become more fun once making art becomes as trivial to you as playing videogames or shitposting. It's just a very fun activity, once you get past that hill. Might take you years to get there, tho. Hell, a decade, maybe, though, depending on how much you practice/study. If you don't find the learning process engaging and reward in and of itself, then you're gonna be miserable.

[Anonymous No.5139313]

>>5139312
>As someone who spent years like this, all I can say is that it does become more fun once making art becomes as trivial to you as playing videogames or shitposting. It's just a very fun activity, once you get past that hill. Might take you years to get there, tho. Hell, a decade, maybe, depending on how much you practice/study. If you don't find the learning process engaging and rewarding and of itself, then you're gonna be miserable.

[Anonymous No.5139351]

>>5139254
If you don't find it fun, you'll burn out sooner than you might think. Reduce your studies and find more fun things to draw

[Anonymous No.5139357]

i dont think ill ever have friends who i can dick around with and talk to for hours about my passions

[Anonymous No.5139368]

>>5139351
I find it fun to actually learn and watch instructional videos, but when I'm sitting alone in my room obsessing over a portrait study that's going to turn out flawed no matter how many hours I spend on it it really gets draining. I notice I enjoy drawing more when I don't have to worry about perfection or accuracy, like gesture drawings, but some things kind of require it. I still do my best to draw every day, but I wish I liked it enough to spend 4+ hours on it a day like I could with a video game or something.

[Anonymous No.5139383]

>>5139357
in my experience, anybody who shares your passion is going to be annoying to be around after awhile

[Anonymous No.5139387]

I get asleep too fast when I'm watching videos and studying anatomy, but when I draw freely, I get to 10 12 hours in a single day

[Anonymous No.5139537]

Is that mufumo looking car character the latest Japanese meme or is it just someone on my feed spamming it?

[Anonymous No.5139540]

>Learn a new technique
>proceed to forget it even existed and continue doing the same mistakes for hours in a drawing

im starting to believe the neuroplasticity bullshit

[Anonymous No.5139549]

>>5139283
Especially (you)

[Anonymous No.5139686]

>>5139540
What I immediately do is trace errr...draw on top of images I like and try to find the construction and stuff.

[Anonymous No.5139691]

>>5139357
I dont think I can talk to anyone for hours, even about my favorite things

[Anonymous No.5139791]

I keep having this overwhelming feeling ever 1-2 years of completely deleting all my socials, then starting over under a new name. I guess its because I feel like I'll get more engagement
Social media has ruined me. I used to draw all day and have so much fun, now my autist mind has shifted to "can't wait to share this, hope it gets likes"

[Anonymous No.5139799]

>>5139791
>it gets likes
>”oh fuck I forgot to turn on beck that layer/ shade the bottom of this leg here, remove the effects there”

[Anonymous No.5139816]

My left arm (non-drawing) hurts so bad I can barely do anything.
Started at my fingertips, then knuckles, now it's up to my elbow.

I can't fucking draw. Every time I start improving a new pain shows up.
The fuck am I supposed to do now?

[Anonymous No.5139895]

>>5139357
I wish I had a friend who would just tell me my work is shit and not complement me.

[Anonymous No.5139936]

>>5139895
I won't be your friend but your work could use some improvement. Do better, please.

[Anonymous No.5140035]

I'm scared of looking at my bank account.

[Anonymous No.5140071]

>>5139537
>He doesn't know

[Anonymous No.5140084]

>>5139936
T...thank you

[Anonymous No.5140173]

>>5139224
I spent last month drawing with designdoll instead of imagination and now my imagination drawings look like something I would draw 3 years ago

[Anonymous No.5140191]

i feel like crying right now, every day since ive been 16 i wanted to draw but i just cant im literally incapable of sitting down and focussing im having a mental breakdown, i will never become good, i will never start, every day i dream about something i cant do

[Anonymous No.5140221]

>>5139791
It's perfectly normal to wish to share your art. Social media has simply removed the part where you can exist and not be a business.
It's like making a garage band but everyone you talk to and everyone you'd like to play with and everyone you'd like to show your music to wants to be/listen to/play with Justin Bieber

[Anonymous No.5140276]

How in the motherest of fucks is E V E R Y T H I N G that the Japs do just so much more visually appealing than anything else?

I mean, I wasn't satisfied with my own style for quite a while, so I just said "fuck it" and started lifting certain things from my favorite anime and manga artists and it looks 1000x better. I mean, I don't rip off anime wholesale, and the stuff I draw still looks mostly western, I'm just talking about certain tiny little details like hair and eye shapes, clothing folds and stuff. It all adds up to easy visual appeal.

I had a character that had a similar hair style to a certain anime girl, so just for fun I drew it exactly the same and it looks so much better than how I did it myself. How the fuck does Japan mog us so hard? God DAMN.

[Anonymous No.5140284]

>>5140276
i know, look at this pic is clearly beg but it has sao much soul

[Anonymous No.5140299]

>>5140284
You can grind boxes and Coomis for six million hours and become a master, and a Jap who has been drawing for a month will make something cute that everyone in the world will prefer over anything you have ever drawn.

FUCK

[Anonymous No.5140324]

>>5140299
fuck...

[Anonymous No.5140332]

>>5139224
Bought a new tablet to give myself motivation to draw. Haven't drawn since, too busy playing osu.

[Anonymous No.5140346]

>>5140276
they understand gesture.

[Anonymous No.5140380]

>>5140346
stfu nigger..... look at this shit https://twitter.com/mogamicoji/status/1279716654289543170 , reused frames, simple shading, not super polished aaaaaaaaaaaand ... 100k+ becauuse is uwu cuuuuuuuuuuuuute, how can a soulessfag like me ever compete...im too drained from real life to think something like this...

[Anonymous No.5140386]

>>5140380
>moeshit is soul
kill yourself, there is no hope for you

[Anonymous No.5140400]

Nothing on this board has crept into my head until the take "you need to enjoy art to get anywhere" started getting thrown around.

I think it's crabbing in it's most distilled form. It's actually evil. There are countless amazing creators out there who tell us of their struggles and that they end up miserable, but we also see the way too happy people out there drawing without a care in the world and it draws our attention more. I can't stop thinking of that stupid line when I'm at my lowest points. I seriously fucking hate anyone who says that shit, they are naive peers, and worthless teachers.

[Anonymous No.5140402]

>>5140380
your stupidity knows no end. That's all gesture. Study gesture.

Gesture isn't just scribbly stick figures. It's STORYTELLING. And its COMPOSITION AND RHYTHM.

[Anonymous No.5140411]

>>5140400
Crabbing is becoming extremely advanced and sophisticated

[Anonymous No.5140412]

I feel like nuking every internet account I have. Even the ones on minor websites that have no social connectivity. I don't even want to use my email anymore. I'm done with the internet.

[Anonymous No.5140415]

>>5140386
moe is not equivalent at soul but moe can be soul, i never said moe=soul

[Anonymous No.5140452]

I just want to be normal

[Anonymous No.5140469]

>>5140400
Everything motivational and positive has been squeezed for every cent of a dollar it could produce. This goes beyond art, literally everything is corrupt and disgusting now. Want to start a business? You better arrange some shady deals. Want to climb your position? Better be a backstabbing sociopath. Want to make it as an artist? Can you play the marketing game like a suit at Disney? No? Well then you're FUCKED, no amount of "passion" will get you anywhere. In a sense it's true that you need to be passionate and "enjoy art" to get anywhere, but the definition of "art" is literally playing the social media game with drawings. You gotta enjoy the social media shit and chasing trends and #stayupdated with the hashtags and sucking popular people's dick and jerking off the creeps that pay you all that stupid shit that artists do now.

[Anonymous No.5140474]

>>5140400
>you'll get more mileage out of a completely optional activity if you enjoy it
Snib snab here comes the crab?

[Anonymous No.5140477]

>>5140084
Glad I could help, Anon!

[Anonymous No.5140480]

>>5139816
arrange a doctors appointment and hit the iron

[Anonymous No.5140492]

>>5140412
See you tomorrow anonkun

[Anonymous No.5140636]

What do i do on days where it feels like everything i draw is shit?

[Anonymous No.5140641]

>>5140636
gesture drawings?

[Anonymous No.5140686]

>>5140452
People generally want to be accepted. For many, this means fitting in with the normies. In order to do that, you may feel pressure to think and behave a certain way. The trouble is that when you try so hard to be what someone else considers normal, you may lose a part of yourself in the process.

Guess what? Fuck them, just be yourself. The last thing you wanna do is pretend to be someone you're not. You will only gain fake friends this way, eventually they'll see past your facet and leave you because you're really not who they thought. This type of thing just doesnt work.

Sorry long rant

[Anonymous No.5140696]

>>5140299
>>5140324
just draw cute shit you dumbfucks

[Anonymous No.5140707]

>>5140686
>unironically just bee self
you can't figure out why people struggle with this, can you?
look at this place, if you don't like cumbrains and anime how do you expect to get along with anyone? that's all it takes to feel out of place
the real answer is
>you are a bad person for not fitting in, you have to be a different person

[Anonymous No.5140794]

>>5140707
>WHY PEOPLE ON THE ARTWORK/CRITIQUE BOARD OF AN ANIME WEBSITE LIKE ANIME REEEEE
If you like marine wip concept art, realistic paintings or modern shit on a canvas there are plenty of other sites where you can fuck off to

[Anonymous No.5140813]

>>5140707
>look at this place, if you don't like cumbrains and anime how do you expect to get along with anyone?
The other anon was a sperg about it, but he's right, why are you trying to get along with anons here to begin with? Sounds like a waste of your time given what is popular here isnt to your taste.

[Anonymous No.5140838]

>>5140813
>why are you trying to get along with anons here to begin with?
People here are exactly the same kind of people on the rest of the entire fucking internet except with no paper thin pretense to be any better. It doesn't make a difference where I go because it's all the same.

[Anonymous No.5140886]

I want to want to draw

[Anonymous No.5140894]

>>5140838
Seems like you are the problem

[Anonymous No.5140896]

>>5140284
Because this isn't /beg/. This is probably like a 5 minute to 15 minute doodle done by and artist that can probably draw much better if he wants to

[Anonymous No.5140996]

>>5140894
see >>5140707
>>you are a bad person for not fitting in, you have to be a different person
I am bee self right now

[Anonymous No.5141000]

I didn't draw today. But I fucked around in Sketchbook and I'm starting to like it.

[Anonymous No.5141018]

>>5140894
that's what he said from the start dumbass.

[Anonymous No.5141431]

When you post something on ArtStation and someone follows you instead of liking what you just did, what does it mean?

[Anonymous No.5141509]

>>5139895
we all need a Fletcher in our life. godspeed andrew

[Anonymous No.5141580]

I'm too weak-willed to quit weed and it's ruining my apprenticeship, my friendships and drawing as a hobby. I am ashamed and don't know what kind of help to seek.

[Anonymous No.5141789]

don't kill yourself my man

[Anonymous No.5141797]

>>5141431
I think sometimes when people like a lot of your artworks but they don't want to spam likes, they just follow instead

[Anonymous No.5141818]

I hope amerikkka does something stupid so that the world falls into total chaos

[Anonymous No.5141827]

When I was a kid I felt like drawing was fun and now it feels like a chore. Because of work I have very little free time and I almost never feel like using that time to draw. Maybe I should quit my job. I don't even want to get super good at art, I just want to be able to animate like Michael Cusack or Egoraptor and create my own shows.

[Anonymous No.5141830]

>>5141431
Means they like everything and want to see more in the future

[Anonymous No.5141836]

>>5139224
I don't know who/what i'm drawing for. I don't really like stuff. I don't have any friends to show them to. My family doesn't even know o draw, and i would never show them. I don't post them online. I honestly couldn't tell if i'm doing good or not. Who am i spending all these hours for?

[Anonymous No.5141863]

I wonder if I would have been a better artist if God didn't curse me with chronic pain. Makes me wonder why I do art, or really anything other than drugs when I've had a migraine for 7 years and it isn't going away. Half the time I can't even think straight, either because I spent the night before writhing around in bed sleeplessly, or just because the constant throbbing in my head distracting me. I hate this disgusting worthless useless fucking body I was forced into for my brief time on this planet.
Fucking hellish existence.

[Anonymous No.5141874]

>>5141863
Have you seen a doctor? There's usually a cause for a migraine, I got 2-3 migraine episodes a week because of stress. I eliminated the cause of stress and they went away. If you draw a lot it might also be because of the strain your back or neck goes through while you're drawing. Or it might just be that you're fucked and there's no cause for it.

[Anonymous No.5141877]

>>5141836
yourself duh. why do this though? sounds like you have bigger problems than knowing how to draw.

[Anonymous No.5141889]

how do you cure mental illnesses? having tourettes, schizophrenia and OCD makes drawing activity absolutely painful

[Anonymous No.5141893]

>>5141889
Take medicine. I am schizo too.

[Anonymous No.5141900]

>>5141874
I have been to multiple doctors. GPs, a neurologist, an endo, a fucking homeopath and even a fucking priest. Nobody knows what the fuck is wrong with me. Can't get a sleep study done in this god forsaken third world shithole. All I got was accusations of being a hypochondriac and a prescription for tricyclic antidepressants which I threw away right after leaving the neurologist's office.
I'm unironically being punished for something I did in a past life. Nothing I can do but bear it.

[Anonymous No.5141929]

>>5141877
I guess my issue is lack of companionship in my life. Im not looking for a lover, just someone to talk with me and genuinely care about my interest. I have no in my life like that currently. Just makes me depressed when i think about it, so i try not to.

[Anonymous No.5141937]

>>5141929
I feel like that would just distract me.

[Anonymous No.5141953]

>>5141929
what kind of stuff do you like? you know there's a discord community for just about everything.

[Anonymous No.5141959]

>>5141900
>asks priest for medical advice
>was given medicine but threw it away
>omg why am i so sick
literally retarded. enjoy your brainrot illness you stupid faggot

[Anonymous No.5141986]

>>5141959
You're evidently more retarded than me for sure if you think tricyclic antidepressants are ever worth it.

[Anonymous No.5142006]

i think im in desperate need of friends, ive been fine being alone for so long but i think it's actually getting to me
i dont even know where to start though, and making them is so tiring. that first stage where it's all small talk and you don't really know how to interact is unbearable to me
how do i make a bro

[Anonymous No.5142035]

I'm tired of these people who contradict themselves. All these youtubers who are part of these movements and yet I end of finding out they do or did the very thing they talk shit about in their videos. And what really pisses me off are the ones who shill anime on their channel but then you ask them a question in relation to anime and they don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Caught pretenders with girlfriends the whole time. I'm sick of this shit. I can't even listen to some as background noise. I'm done. The news pisses me off. Youtubers are pissing me off. Twitter users are pissing me off--fuck the internet man.

[Anonymous No.5142044]

>>5142035
Let me add to this--even communities like /x/ tier stuff that form and then get infiltrated by homos who want to roleplay as the founders. And then ban anyone in their superchats who dare question or challenge their talking points.

To the point where they attack their own subscribers and ruin the small community that was formed out of passion. Where do these people come from anyway? Why do they do this? Why? And everyone wants to be a V-tuber. Every woman wants you to donate to their onlyfans or no chatting. No friend buttons anymore, just "followers". People who have no business in a community taking screenshots of others and stalking them to harass them for months don't you have anything better to do with your lives?

Please for the love of God, someone, please, destroy the internet.

[Anonymous No.5142047]

>>5141953
>discord community
oh boy i love talking to literal children who cant hold their attention for longer than 3 messages at a time

[Anonymous No.5142061]

>>5142006
Join Omegle but put on your facemask, sunglasses and use a voice changer app.
If you have the resources, install Facerig

[Anonymous No.5142069]

Why do the good digital art solution not have Linux support, why am I stuck with krita or the fucking green pepper if I don't want to install another OS just for art. I am the incarnation of anger

[Anonymous No.5142073]

>>5142047
there are adults there, though you aren't entirely wrong. consider the alternatives though. you could deal with discord or try to join an irl community

[Anonymous No.5142249]

>>5142047
>be in art school
>90% of peers are screeching/edgy 18 year olds
I know I should of expected this, but I was hoping there would be some more mature people to bounce ideas off of while occasionally having goofy bantz. I think there's only like 4 people in my program atm that are
somewhat normal

[Anonymous No.5142449]

>>5142249
Ayo it gets better after freshman year, sometimes you just have to roll with it and focus on what the profs are putting out.

[Anonymous No.5142458]

>>5142449
Or, forgot to add this on, if you’re not getting your peers worth in freshman year, try talking to the juniors/seniors

[Anonymous No.5142632]

>>5141929
>>5141953
I'm kinda falling out of the hobbies i use to enjoy a lot. I don't know of it's not having a friend to talk about them with, or just outgrowing them naturally. But im the typical anime and video games guy in guess. I grew up with a bunch of colorful games like nintendo, sega, and capcom. I tried joining a few discords. maybe i just haven't found the right ones, but all it felt like i was an outcast if i wasn't posting memes constantly.

[Anonymous No.5142677]

>>5142632
when's the last time you had friends?

[Anonymous No.5142689]

>>5142677
2017 i think.

[Anonymous No.5142879]

>>5142044

Are people seriously still on /x/? That board got literally invaded by Reddit autists in 2008 and drove the original users off the board, never to return. I know, because I started the forum for the original userbase that left.
There's a REASON why all that SCP shit fucking sucks and normies were literally the cause.

Normies and other parasitic sociopaths have been invading nerd communities for over a decade now and its only accelerating in the past 5 years.

[Anonymous No.5142882]

>do one part of the drawing
>it looks shitty
>"whatever, i'll fix it later once im done with everything else"
>never actually fix it

[Anonymous No.5142916]

>>5139224
>Finish a piece
>Suddenly realize there's nowhere to post it
>Hate normies so no blog
>No reason to post for critique because I already know where my weaknesses are (which is everything)
>Always bittersweet and apprehensive about completing something because what's the point if I don't want anyone to see it anyway
>Remain bitter
I even lashed out at another random artist that happened to post his work on another board when people asked him to make a blog and now I feel like a dick. I don't want to be a bunch of sour grapes anymore. I'm not going to post my work fuck you.

[Anonymous No.5142939]

>>5142916
don't post it here unless it's coom I guess

[Anonymous No.5142940]

I hope everyone dies

[Anonymous No.5142943]

>>5142916
i dont get it. whats wrong with normies seeing your blog? if you dont like them just filter them until you have a following you like.

[Anonymous No.5142945]

>>5142940
even me anon? I also hope everyone dies

[Anonymous No.5142955]

>having an idea
>trying to fleshing her out
>doing a bunch of thumbnails
>losing the idea in the process
>end up noticing that I drew a bust in a 3/4 view
>get dissapointed but didn't gave up yet

When should I give up on an idea?I'm still struggling withe the thumbnail stage...

[Anonymous No.5142963]

>want to draw cool looking nazi uniforms, wacky indian mohawks, chad arab terrorists
>can't post them without SJWs try to cancel you

[Anonymous No.5142995]

>>5142882
un clásico

[Anonymous No.5143056]

>>5142879
>Are people seriously still on /x/?
There are, mainly schizos. And I do mean actual, diagnosed schizos, some even showed the papers.

[Anonymous No.5143208]

My freedom is gone. Im tired, exhausted and drained, stuck in a trap spiralling towards rage and sadness.

[Anonymous No.5143294]

I can’t make clean line work on digital

I don’t want to buy more paper and pencils

[Anonymous No.5143316]

>>5142963
>can draw literally anything fantasy or reality
>any thing that has ever existed or even hasn’t existed
>complains because people don’t like it when he draws literal nazis and terrorists
>could draw the same thing and say it’s not literally a nazi or a terrorist
>no good has to be nazi bin laden

m8 you can draw any of the aesthetically interesting parts of those ideas without being an edge lord that deliberately draws actual terrorists and nazis

[Anonymous No.5143322]

>just the thought of doing another anatomy study makes my skin crawl
>start doing some gesture drawings, session no 1542, my brain blocks and my hand just won't move
>fuck that, open my sketchbook and start drawing whatever
>close it after 20 minutes because everything I draw looks like shit because I didn't grind fundies enough
rinse and repeat, day after day

[Anonymous No.5143327]

>>5143322
retard have you tried to grind fundies based on the shit you like to draw

[Anonymous No.5143336]

>>5143327
No anon, that thought really never crossed my mind, and here I was, naively grinding anatomy and gesture, thinking it would help me draw this submarine I had in my mind.

[Anonymous No.5143351]

>>5143336
i mean specific stuff you like, pose,part of thebody, theme..etc you dumb holonigger

[Anonymous No.5143369]

>>5143351
> specific stuff you like, pose,part of thebody, theme
Oh you mean stuff like anatomy...and gesture...no, those things really never crossed my mind. Gee anon, thanks for the enlightenment.

[Anonymous No.5143371]

>>5143316
Nah fuck that, he could even draw nazis and terrorists, just don't blog post and they can't do shit. Your part of the problem saying he shouldn't draw whatever the fuck he likes, and he's acting dumb for caring about SJWs

[Anonymous No.5143734]

I like drawing and I just keep hoping my art will look good someday. I'm so worried about it.

[Anonymous No.5143815]

Didn't draw today either. FUCC

[Anonymous No.5143967]

The better I get at faces the more stupid I see my OC designs were.

[Anonymous No.5143974]

>Look at my art portfolio from two years ago
>Bad proportions, horrible rendering, that cat was obviously traced

How the hell did I get this job? I don't remember sucking any dicks

[Anonymous No.5143978]

>>5139254
Anon, studies are important but you have to draw things for fun too. It should be something like 50:50, getting burned when drawing is too easy because everything takes a lot of time. You can also learn many things drawing for fun, maybe not as fast as when you're studying from a book but it will not be wasted time.

[Anonymous No.5143985]

>>5143056
That is actually horrifying. I had no idea it had gotten that bad. You know what's really terrible though? Even with legit crazies, they still prolly can't produce decent OC.

[Anonymous No.5144054]

lately when i saw a bit of improvement i started asking myself quesitons like:
why do i do this?
do i enjoy drawing?

[Anonymous No.5144060]

>>5139368
while playing videogames the time flies fast, but when you sit alone, in silence and focus on your drawing it might get tiresome. Try to think of it as sort of meditation

[Anonymous No.5144064]

>>5140276
A lot of Japanese artists legitimately imitate the styles of other artists they like by using their art as models to follow

[Anonymous No.5144073]

>>5139383
In my experience, that hasb't happened yet. I'd say more than being an issue of sharing a passion, it's an issue of associating yourself with people you'll find annoying, regardless. The only thinh about the passion in common is that said person will feel more comfortable sharing and, thus, their obnoxiousness shows more easily.

[Anonymous No.5144225]

>After years I'm still incapable of progress
There is no hope for me, despite drawing regularly and trying to use every tip and advice I'm still extremely shit. This shouldn't even be possible!

[Anonymous No.5144331]

>>5142044
We've gone from people lamenting the end of social interaction in favour of having "friends" on social media to people lamenting the loss of social media friends in favour of "followers". The march of time goes on.

[Anonymous No.5144340]

I feel that i make absolutely garbage, I just know what stupid silly crap is easy to meme and is cute/scary enough for people to enjoy in short bursts. There are much better artists than me who deserve the viewership, yet im far more popular/successful than any of them due to just basic understanding of what people will like. I can't stop feeling like a hack.

[Anonymous No.5144425]

>>5142044
The reason why things are like this is that everyone is being passive about it. People just complain and complain and they want a free, good, human "thing" that fixes all their problems. Well that's not going to happen. When someone tries to create something you do nothing. You can create a community in 2 clicks today, nobody will join. Nobody will participate. Everyone will just link what they do on the major social media and then forget.
The issue is not the "internet", the internet is as functional as it ever was and this is not a problem with the law or whatever (yet), the issue is that people have given up and they won't change their mindset, they won't drop the idea of not being connected to the main flow of information which is why no matter where you go or what you do it's as if you were talking to the same people.

[Anonymous No.5145064]

I drew today after years of hiatus. Naturally, my skills have regressed a little. I know I can get back on track soon but it still feels weird and a little scary

[Anonymous No.5145774]

>there are people who shade reference sheets
literal subhuman IQ

[Anonymous No.5145784]

why am I such a degenerate...

[Anonymous No.5145843]

>>5143294
so be shitty at digital line work for a while and practice your ass off boy

[Anonymous No.5145940]

/ic/ has given me the final push to finally give up

[Anonymous No.5146081]

In the last four months the stability of Photoshop has absolutely shit the fucking bed. Random errors constantly.
>"Photoshop could not save because of a program error"
>"Photoshop could not merge layers because of a program error"
>eye dropper tool randomly not working
>brush tool randomly not working
>layer masks glitching out
>display not updating when zoomed in too much
>crashes
Not sure if it was the Adobe update, or the latest OSX update, or both doubleteaming my computer together. I am so fucking sick of these motherfucking tech companies and these unending garbage updates. I am even more sick of the unhelpful faggots on their tech support message boards telling me basic shit like restart my computer, or trying to gaslight me that nothing is broken.

[Anonymous No.5146089]

>>5139224
Somebody retweeted me and for the last hour all I get is tranny likes and follows notifications

[Anonymous No.5146113]

>>5144425
The "mainflow" of information is literally the alphabet soup legacy media that I thought half the world now is wary of trusting thanks to the POTUS. You look to the side of your twitter RSS an it's just the same outlets.

Secondly, I think it's also a generational thing. Young adults and children aren't signing up in doves on the same platforms adults are using. They'd rather hang out on TikTak or discord or whatever random app us nuboomers don't use. Their flow of information is different from ours as well as their cultural way of talking to each other. Words and memes we will never get. Pewdiepie might actually be cringe to kids and its just the 20 somethings who grew up watching him, who still watch him out of nostalgia.

I don't expect everyone to just drop their current plug and go back to using forums and Yahoo messenger or good old fashion email. I say "everyone", most of these people didn't exist before the iphone in the first place. I just wish technology could be complicated again so that it's a norm filter for at least a couple of years. VR technically is that technology but there is no complex metaverse on an internet 2.0 using hardware that scares people.

[Anonymous No.5146317]

I have a fucking retarded idea:
>post commission sheet from early 2019
>deliver work with my current skill level
Is this retarded?

[Anonymous No.5146414]

Life was a lot simpler when I was an alcoholic, you're either drunk as fuck or in deep withdrawal. Literally just 2 emotions, euphoria or horror. It would be the perfect solution to escaping your life if it didn't take your intelligence/mind before taking your liver and life.
Sober now for 80 days and I don't like it bros.
Thanks for coming to my ted talk.

[Anonymous No.5146420]

>>5146317
You should post your commission sheet from 2019 and deliver 2018 quality in a quarter of the time.

[Anonymous No.5146634]

>>5146113
It's not about the technologies, it's just that people cannot breach out of the things they consume or do on mainstream social media. They are constantly connected to this flow of information from Twitter or Facebook or whatever the fuck people are on and they never unplug. You cannot possibly not be updated about the latest thing that happened on social media, you just have to know. There is no such thing as a place where you keep this shit out and focus on something like the hobby itself, everything has to be somehow connected to the mainstream social media shit. And with artists this is the worst because artists and other niche hobby people are probably the least category that might reject mainstream social media due to lack of visibility everywhere else, instead they embrace it so you are fully immersed in idpol and mainstream discourse 24/7.
Even as little as 5 years ago things were so different and it's scary how fast they're changing. Remember when Tumblrinas were actually "crazy" and they were still somewhat of a novelty?

[Anonymous No.5146849]

I didn't care to search before but I just realized I'll now be living just 20 minutes away from the president if he moves to Mar a Largo this whole time. That's crazy.

[Anonymous No.5146859]

>be me
>quit all of toxic community
>quit watching news
>quit 4chan
>feels like go back to 2000s when i was happy
>can draw even if i suck

I'm gonna make it

[Anonymous No.5146868]

>>5146859
>quit 4chan
>posted this on 4chan

[Anonymous No.5146870]

>>5146859
>quit 4chan
anon...

[Anonymous No.5146927]

I don't want to waste more time, I want to get better
For 5 months I've failed and I don't want to quit, it's not in my code to quit, I'll never quit at something, bitch and whine? Sure but I just keep at it until either one of us gives in
I need to become like when I was younger, drawing for fun, drawing literally anything, I don't remember a lot but I remember that
How can I become courageous again? Can I ever hope to be good?

[Anonymous No.5146935]

>>5146927
/beg/ keeps telling me to quit and do something else BUT I DONT WANT TO
OK?

[Anonymous No.5146940]

>>5146935
Time is precious,I can't afford to waste it,
expiration date, Nexus 6.
I can't afford to waste more months not improving, no one seems to get this desperation

[Anonymous No.5146960]

>>5146940
are you drawing 100 heads a day or 1 a week?

[Anonymous No.5146968]

>>5146935
>>5146940
Poo poo peepee

[Anonymous No.5146969]

>>5146960
10 a day I guess? I don't know, I don't remember what I do really, not now.
How can I push myself to draw 100 if I fail at the first 10, I just can't deal, it literally hurts me physically.
So I should draw more?

[Anonymous No.5147012]

>my soft shading style is really inconsistant and sometimes just looks bad
>my cel/hard shading style looks more consistent but looks cheaper more amateur

[Anonymous No.5147023]

>>5146969
PEE PEE POO POO
GET IN THE LOO
AND STICK THE DILATOR
IN UR NEO-VAGOO

[Anonymous No.5147048]

>>5139274
Real critique takes effort.
I think most people only "help" others for free in so far as it enhances their ego and emotional balance.

[Anonymous No.5147062]

>>5147023
based

[Anonymous No.5147105]

I'm retarded for not focusing on Value and Perspective for the past year. I wish someone would have told me perspective gets easy once you understand the basics.

[Anonymous No.5147128]

>>5146940
If your time was so precious you wouldn't spend so much time pissing and moaning, shitting up so many threads.
Your problem isn't that you can't draw, it's that you're an absolute moron that can't shut the fuck up, perform any self-introspection or critique. You lack independence, feed off of validation of others, and seemingly can't do anything of your own accord. You pester everyone for something to do in some lame attempt to achieve anything. The magic fix is never coming, and your toddler tantrum is doing you far more harm than good.

Enjoy your (you), you parasite.

[Anonymous No.5147146]

>>5147128
I'm scared of failure, if people tell me I can't then I worry they're right.
I could shut up and draw but when I fail I'll come here again, just tell me what I need to improve, please
>You lack independence, feed off of validation of others, and seemingly can't do anything of your own accord
thats a result from my childhood or something, i dont know what happened really

[Anonymous No.5147165]

>>5147146
See a doctor.

[Anonymous No.5147182]

>>5147165
No, I need to get better at drawing, youve seen my drawings, can someone like me do it?

[Anonymous No.5147191]

>>5147182
No, you can't, unless you see a doctor.

[Anonymous No.5147194]

>>5147191
He needs to see a shrink.

[Anonymous No.5147195]

>>5147191
no, forget my issues, can I draw like my heroes, sheer skill and training alone? Please tell me what you think of my 5 months, give me something to draw as a test

[Anonymous No.5147204]

>>5147194
Let's be real, anything would be better than nothing if it got him to shut up.

>>5147195
No, because your problems stem from your mental state. You've asked how to improve and you're completely disregarding the answer.

[Anonymous No.5147212]

>>5139274
sinix's discord server has a critique section, they sometimes give good advice

[Anonymous No.5147219]

>>5147195
Compare your art now to where it was 5 months ago. Only compare yourself to who you were in the past. But, you won't become a pro in that short time. Also I know you made that other thread, but consider that your favorite artists have several assistants and editors. But there are other comic makers who have not great art (ONE and Attack on Titan's mangaka) Strive to become better than them. Just keep going

[Anonymous No.5147223]

>>5147219
>But there are other comic makers who have not great art (ONE and Attack on Titan's mangaka)
So you're telling me to cope, is it because you feel no spark?
Give me a test anon, something to draw

[Anonymous No.5147273]

>>5147223
bruv draw whatever you want stop being a cock sucking retard shitting up the board constantly. BAN THIS FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.5147354]

>>5147273
based

[Anonymous No.5147515]

>>5139224
>"Rrrr! Nobody's commenting on my art"
>look at replies to everyone else's work
>it's nothing but crabbing and shitposts

M-maybe it's a good thing..

[Anonymous No.5147618]

Fuck, I think I'm turning into Shizo-kun. I was sketching from a photo today for a warmup. I have a special folder with pics of cute animals, I've decided I'll only sketch them, to prevent depressing thoughts. But today it's not working. I looked at the frog and thought it had such an angry and depressed expression, almost like it didn't want such an ngmi /beg/ sketching it. I could barely keep myself from crying. Naturally the sketch came out shit, I couldn't focus. I forced myself to finish it, but now I'm afraid of trying to finish the stuff I was going to work on, even though people who requested it liked my wips and want them finished. I feel so like shit and I have literally no one to talk to, even my family hate me, I think even my fucking 2d husbando would hate me if he was real.
Worst thing I'm not even /beg/ strictly speaking, I've been drawing on and off pretty much all my life, and I'm pretty old by 4chen standards. When I was a tween I was going to art clubs and teachers there praised my art, my stuff got send to exhibitions. But perhaps that was just because I had good grades in other subjects and the faculty were too tempted to make some kind of golden girl from me. But no one suggested going to art school, and I didn't have the confidence to try myself.
Then in uni there was less time, and later on I developed a pretty bad depression, stopped doing art. Just working to save up money so I could move from my shit abusive family, drinking or gaming when it got too hard to cope. I had an almost 10 year long hiatus, trying to come back now, first it felt good, but now... not so good.
I also have a dream of doing a graphic novel ( something closer to euro BDs I guess). More similarities with schizo-kun. Haha, perhaps we should get married and fill this gay world with more sad schizos just to fuck with it.
>Just find some simps, you filthy femoid
Won't work, I'm too ugly.
Probably won't respond to replies, I really typed this just to vent.

[Anonymous No.5147622]

I'm losing motivation. Some days I'm super pumped up and thankful to be alive and love drawing. Other days I feel it's all pointless, and think death isn't so bad as I wouldn't have all these anxieties and bad feelings. I don't know how this ends but I feel powerless to stop it.

[Anonymous No.5147625]

>draw my crush’s favorite characters
>she STILL hasn’t asked me out

UNRAVELLING THE WOOORRRRLLLLD

[Anonymous No.5147649]

why yall so depressing like stop being so sad wtf how did u get like this?

[Anonymous No.5147672]

>>5147618
Sometimes you have off days, and that's perfectly ok. Just take a break and come back to it with fresh eyes later.
You'll only regret it if you stop entirely. I know I do.

[Anonymous No.5147728]

>>5147618
The talentless, those who can't ever grasp it
Pain

[Anonymous No.5147769]

>>5146081
You use this CC thing? And still have to deal with all this crap? Damn. Poorfag with ancient pirated CS6 here, don't know these feels. Though it does glitch or hang from time to time. Thinking of trying out Krita or pirated SAI.

[Anonymous No.5147772]

>>5140284
>>5140896
this
fucking retards here see a 5 minute doodle and go hurr /beg/ and compare it to drawings that take 10+ hours

[Anonymous No.5147988]

I have been lying in bed majority of the day for the last week and a half. It’s probably what’s going on in the news but it also might be me switching to decaf coffee. I need a new maker replacement soon.

[Anonymous No.5148017]

>>5147618
>girl
stopped reading there, fuck off whore

[Anonymous No.5148036]

I get these really bad suicidal spells sometimes when I don't have anything to drink. It's a really bad dark place. I've lost faith in art as a source of purpose, I've become too cynical. I'm starting to this there was nothing in it all along and I was just making things up.
There are more details about this but they are personal and I have nobody to talk to, let alone someone who wouldn't judge or belittle the way I see things. It all feels really cold and pointless.

[Anonymous No.5148042]

Sometimes I feel like only fellow artists can appreciate well made art.
I used to show my beginner shitty drawings to a friend and to my mom and their reaction hasn't changed now after all this time even though I'm making pretty nice art nowadays.

[Anonymous No.5148065]

>>5147769
Yeah. First time I've had any issues with Adobe software which makes me think it has more to do with the OS update from Apple. I am going to have to waste time this weekend rolling back to a previous Photoshop to see if that does anything.

[Anonymous No.5148102]

>manage to maintain a daily practice besides being tired as fuck
>happy when drawing
>still "depressed" outside of that

Fucking covid,working from home without any meaningful social interaction fucking sucks.Every single day since this month I'm stressing about gindingthe time to practice not just because of work but because of that part of me that just want to sleep 15 hours a day...

[Anonymous No.5148109]

>>5148042
Always be grateful of people who encourage you along the journey

[Anonymous No.5148128]

>>5142249
Find the printmakers, sculptors and ceramicist, most of the time since the medium is more niche and they actually give a shit, they were the comfiest people when I was at art school.

[Anonymous No.5148185]

>>5148128
can confirm this but not in art school, find the niche people who didn't follow a meme trend

[Anonymous No.5148194]

>>5147618
Listen here little baby. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about. Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl.

>mfw thinking of you hurting

[Anonymous No.5148204]

>>5148194
pls tell me there’s leaks of her

[Anonymous No.5148220]

>>5147988
Don't watch the news if you wanted peace of mind. Nuke social media too while you're at it

[Anonymous No.5148230]

>>5148204
That pic was the best of the leaks

[Anonymous No.5148236]

>>5148230
I don’t understand why thots think there’s a difference between doing this and doing actual porn. How do they reach the logical conclusion that this is okay but they’re not a porn peddling virtual prostitute if there’s a thin strip of fabric covering the hole? Might as well just go all in at that point and make some money

[Anonymous No.5148263]

>>5148236
People know only fans is porn. Not showing labia and nipples is sometimes more arousing. And it’s good business practice so that they can really rake it in when they go all the way.

[Anonymous No.5148271]

>>5148236
>How do they reach the logical conclusion that this is okay but they’re not a porn peddling virtual prostitute if there’s a thin strip of fabric covering the hole?
It's not a logical conclusion, it's a conscious way to grab a market. You say you are an "entertainer" or a "youtuber" and you have invaded a field you don't belong to, and then because you're serving basically virtual crack you simply take over. Just like pornfaggots call themselves "artists" and slowly invaded all "art" platforms until they finally managed to push all the non-whores away.

[Anonymous No.5148307]

>>5148263
I respectfully disagree. I find it much more arousing to go on the internet and search for literally whatever I desire and find 4K videos of women who are not only out of my league but more attractive than anyone I’ve ever seen in person. And it’s f r e e. It’s bizarre. No wonder the world is fucked up when sex is the motivator for the entirety of mankind and the hottest women that have ever existed are available at a click doing the most depraved things you can imagine

[Anonymous No.5148311]

I hate doing lineart so much, whenever I try it looks like total ass

[Anonymous No.5148315]

>>5148311
I think it’s just a confidence thing. It’s the true test in knowing if you know how something works or just bullshitting it in the sketch phase with unnecessary lines.

[Anonymous No.5148319]

>>5148311
Digital or trad?

[Anonymous No.5148323]

>already broke my new years resolution

[Anonymous No.5148329]

>>5148323
February is the real resolutions starter month.

[Anonymous No.5148351]

>>5148319
Digital
>>5148315
Yeah you're probably right. Most of the time my lines look the shittiest at the hands and arms, which I have a pretty shoddy understanding of compared to the rest of the body (at least I think so, figuring out what to do with hands is always the hardest part of drawing for me).

[Anonymous No.5148810]

The more advanced I get the more people disagree with my advice and critiques.

[Anonymous No.5148813]

>>5147618
pyw

[Anonymous No.5148843]

>post art in discord server
>mogged by some kid’s shitty ms paint drawing
>mogged by art that I thought was shit

can someone just shoot me already? i love drawing and the process but it feels like I’m fucking awful and I can’t see it. I always thought I was mediocre but I get treated like I’m subhuman.

[Anonymous No.5148874]

>>5148843
And mediocre is perfect if you people criticizing you badly then fuck it. Make less shit stuff. You can do this
I give up approved by someone. But it makes me work somehow

[Anonymous No.5148892]

>Look up artist I love
>Find entire collection of works dating back to 2011
>First work ever uploaded was already better than my art 2 years in
At this pace I'm not gonna be able to make decent art in 20 years from now, I'm already old so probably my mind will deteriorate from being senile before I even get to make it.

[Anonymous No.5148900]

>>5148874
Thanks, dear anon. I’m not really criticized, moreso ignored while others are elevated. No one says I’m bad, but I can tell by how they act they don’t see me as good. Hopefully I can make less shit art one day.

[Anonymous No.5148981]

Part of me still wants to write comics and tell stories and communicate all my stupid ideas to people. That's the reason I started making art as a kid in the first place, and I loved every minute of it. But somewhere down the line I learned that people would only hate me for expressing what I thought was cool, or what I thought was funny.
I still draw, but the mode of creativity I have now is completely different from the one I used to enjoy when I was young. The more I exist in it, the more hollow it feels. It places artistic skill above all else because it's desperate for the validation that being good at something could bring. It takes itself way too seriously because levity doesn't command respect. It's horrified of genuine self-expression because people can't reject you if you never let them know what you're thinking. It might make nice-looking art one day, but it's completely incapable of producing the kind of work I used to love making, or even work with any real meaning whatsoever.
I know all this but I have no idea what to do about it. It's terrifying to think that I might be stuck this way forever

[Anonymous No.5149040]

>>5147772
...as a "beginner" this shit would've taken me n4 hours.

[Anonymous No.5149070]

I started playing stepmania and I've been playing it consistently. I can literally see myself improving every single day (started struggling with 9s and can now clear most 14s) and I only play for like an hour a day. I wish I would do that with my art where I just study for an hour or so then doodle or some shit. I'm getting better but it can be really difficult because studying art actually takes real concentration instead of just click clacking on a keyboard

[Anonymous No.5149074]

Need advice, don't wanna shit up the board witha thread, don't know where else to ask. Is drawing from imagination a waste of time? I tend to enjoy it more than drawing from reference. I see a pose in my head, I use what I know of anatomy to feel forms, etc. I supplement reference where I need it. Feels like I'm learning more than just finding a pose and drawing it. Or is this just a case of working harder not smarter? I have no idea, but I feel like it works if it gets me to draw.

[Anonymous No.5149075]

I don't know how to realize if I truly have passion for art or if I'm just chasing after a false dream because I've been doing it so long

[Anonymous No.5149284]

>>5149074
If you're drawing then you're doing better than half the board desu. Who cares about it maybe taking longer, it takes a long ass time to get good anyways

[Anonymous No.5149318]

>>5149074
why do you ask for advice to a bunch of soulless cumbrains?

[Anonymous No.5149321]

>>5149284
Thanks anon. I get neurotic about the time it takes, but I suppose you're right. Doesn't matter if I'm drawing and getting better.

>>5149318
I've yet to find a stable community. Sometimes I see good advice here, so I thought I'd try.

[Anonymous No.5149327]

>>5149075
>I've been doing it so long
Create short term and achievable goals. Short-term goals are often, but not always, steppingstones on the way to achieving bigger dreams.

[Anonymous No.5149328]

>>5148981
Story is king; ask any director and they'll say the same thing. Even if you got vanilla art style, with a good and strong story it will still attract audiences

[Anonymous No.5149348]

>>5149328
>with a good and strong story
LMAO yeah the things that are popular totally have a good story
unless you are a literal brand and you market yourself down people's throats, they will only care about coom

[Anonymous No.5149417]

>>5148981
You remind me of the mc in blue period. If you like yokohama kaidashi kikou your artistic expression can't be as bad as you think tho. Even comics that faced total ridicule like CAD still have loyal fans. You'll never appease everybody, so i hope you do what makes you happy

[Anonymous No.5149449]

>>5149417
Blue period is really good for motivation.

[Anonymous No.5149473]

>>5149417
>Even comics that faced total ridicule like CAD still have loyal fans.
this has nothing to do with artistic expression, this is exclusively about making shitty comics about trending things every single day

[Anonymous No.5149559]

>>5149348
Even lewd art becomes more popular when you attached some character to it. Jab is the living proof to this

[Anonymous No.5149579]

>>5148981
>>5147618
>>5147728
Have y'all comics obsessed schizos ever considered that
>I must get stellar at art and make comics to tell my stories
might be a giant spook?
Even in Europe comics are still a very niche medium largely viewed as childish or exploitative - after all, the majority of it is little more than softcore porn and escapist pulpy genre fic. Even 'serious' comics are viewed as cope: 'Gee, if there's retards out there who can't handle a full page of text, guess it's good some kind soul is trying to talk to them about important stuff through pictures'. You're seriously limiting yourself and your reach if you consign yourself to working in this medium. Book still exist, ADHD zoomer gamers with fried dopamine receptors aren't the only market and even among zoomers there are a lot who still read by the way.
If your stories are that good, establish yourself as an author and artists will be lining up to work with you. Or you can publish some of your own art then, and even if it's average, people will view you as a Renaissance person instead of some ngmi schizo. For instance, Tolkien's illustrations for his own work are often praised, even though they're basically what most of /ic/ would shit on as bland /beg/ schlock.

[Anonymous No.5149607]

>>5149579
I never said I wasn't making comics because my art wasn't good enough, or even that I'm dead set on comics as a medium. I don't think you care about that though, so I'll just leave you to it

[Anonymous No.5149676]

>>5149607
I'm genuinely trying to help you people understand whether you're wasting your time and mental resources on developing a skill which is not as essential to your goals as you imagine and on stressing about not being 'good enough' at said skill. That you aren't like a baker who is obsessing about not being able to also make sushi. If that's not the case, good for you. But sometimes people get too hung-up on theise weird, largely unfounded assumptions about their target audience and what it would take to create an appealing product.

[Anonymous No.5149870]

>>5149579
Crab shit

[Anonymous No.5149875]

>>5139224
I’m so fucking overwhelmed with body drawing. The neck and below has always been a weakness and I don’t know if I should just study the contour of the body, the shapes like hampton, or what. I’m struggling with proportions as well. I just need some figure drawing or something but any tips or something would go a long way

[Anonymous No.5149912]

>>5149607
I think you've put the cart before the horse. You are worrying excessively about audience reception but are you actually good at anything yet? If people hate your old work it's probably because you are still an amateur.
>But somewhere down the line I learned that people would only hate me for expressing what I thought was cool, or what I thought was funny.
Of course you are unhappy and your work is hollow. Lol like this obviously poor attitude kneecaps you.
Certain artists do have broader appeal than others and certain types of work have wider audience. But guess what you're you, one person, and you can't wish on a star and suddenly be someone else who's popular and shit. Make what you're best at.
>>5149579
Self consciously tailoring your work for audience reception is the spook. For work that is passionate, medium and method is essential to the message and not something to outsource because it's hard work. Maybe you meant something like "know your real strengths," but you said it in the most pretentious way possible. Also
>schizos
The fuck is with this recent meme where everyone has to throw around psychiatric disorders for mundane shit they disagree with? It is everyone online right now. You could be talking about something mundane as favorite pizza toppings and some genius will still chime in with "Take your meds."

[Anonymous No.5149973]

>>5140477
Wish I could have a friend like Diana

[Anonymous No.5149984]

>>5149912
>The fuck is with this recent meme where everyone has to throw around psychiatric disorders for mundane shit
Where do you think you are? 'Autistic' is the new 'fag' on this Chinese scroll depository. 'Shizo-kun' is just a nickname that was being used long before these posts.

[Anonymous No.5149987]

>>5149912
>For work that is passionate
nobody cares about passionate work, people want something that strokes their vanity (or their dick)

[Anonymous No.5149989]

>>5149559
>muh coom has a good story I swear
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.5150106]

>>5149987
Go make passionless work to cynically exploit the crowd then. I don't care. But anyone who's made the choice to go down that road shouldn't sulk about why they feel hollow and lack motivation, that's obnoxiously childish.

[Anonymous No.5150127]

I don't get dynamic sketching. I just draw what I see as a flat image and then add cross contours.

[Anonymous No.5150181]

>>5140400
>too much of a crab to take in the idea that you arent allowed to let yourself have fun at any point and life must be hell for you to be a romanticized definition of a starving artist

[Anonymous No.5150231]

just another night

[Anonymous No.5150535]

I fucking hate social media artists so much. So so disingenuous.
>Daw shucks, here's a sketch I did! A little doodle!! For fun!!!!!
>Fucking polished ass piece of professional art.png

[Anonymous No.5150722]

>>5150535
>Oh no I'm an amazing artist who can churn out beautiful pieces non stop and get paid a shitload of money while everyone in the world appreciate my work
>Oh no I'm le sad please comfort me
These fuckers really don't know how good they have it. Try being an anonymous nobody trying to survive on a day by day basis with only broken dreams in abudance while the world reminds you everyday your art is dogshit on top of everything.

[Anonymous No.5150782]

>>5150722
Literal sociopaths the way they game their shit. You just know these fucks save up a bunch of work and post them at intervals that make it seem like it took them very little time to get out a finished piece. Some probably delete old accounts, create new ones under a pseudonym and post a backlog of their shit from day 1 to make it seem like they're making massive gains. Most also use overt positivity and play normie to hide their crabbing shit. They honestly put /ic/ crabs to shame.

[Anonymous No.5150803]

>>5150535
>Art is hard as fuck let's make 1000000000000 jokes about it

No wonder why enjoying the process is hard when you see all those jokes making the act feel like it's a torture method.

[Anonymous No.5150853]

>>5150535

Once you get your skills leveled up, you'll realize that what you perceive as garbage is treasure to someone else.
It's all a matter of perspective, really.
Just as that developed artists pap smears look like a king's ransom to you, so do your beg drawings look like salvator mundi to people who literally dont or cant draw.

[Anonymous No.5150873]

>>5148981

For me, good draftsmanship skills are vital to the moods I want to express in my comics, so I feel like I cant create what I want without passing a certain benchmark.
The project always feels too big for me, regardless of how much I improve.

My current solution is to find ways to make my ideas as simple and direct as possible while abstaining from the embellishment I love so much. It feels more soulless than what I had planned, but its better than no comic at all. :(

[Anonymous No.5150889]

>>5148810

Now youre starting to understand, arent you?
Thats part of why people just up and ghost this place.

[Anonymous No.5150892]

>>5148109
>>5148042

This, honestly. People who care about you are worth more than upvotes.

[Anonymous No.5150927]

>>5148981
>>5150722
>>5150535
>>5150231
Mood

[Anonymous No.5151004]

>>5150873
Thankfully my designs are on the simple side so I'm not really concerned about that(at least not more than I imagine most comic artists are), I just can't figure out what sort of story I want to make. The choices and risks are too overwhelming

[Anonymous No.5151023]

>>5150892
>People who care about you
How do you make that happen?

[Anonymous No.5151056]

>>5146859
oh, anon...

[Anonymous No.5151085]

anyone else really like doing pic related?
The smell seriously gets me horny

[Anonymous No.5151093]

>>5150127
PROOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[Anonymous No.5151106]

>>5151085
wrong pic?

[Anonymous No.5151142]

>>5151106
no you gay bastard

[Anonymous No.5151150]

>>5147618
>I think even my fucking 2d husbando would hate me if he was real
don't do this to me. I'm trying to get better

[Anonymous No.5151183]

>>5151004

I've chosen to adapt some medieval stories I loved as a kid to help me figure out how narrative works. I heard some pro recommend this for comic artists who were new to the medium and wanted to execute very quickly, without getting caught in the planning stage.

(Little did he know, I also have world-builder's disease..)

[Anonymous No.5151185]

>>5151023

You gotta value your family and friends more! And also stick close to people who like you for you, regardless of how well you draw.

[Anonymous No.5151190]

>>5147618

Who is this infamous "schizo-kun"? I havent been around enough to absorb the board lore.

> I think even my fucking 2d husbando would hate me if he was real.
>2ND husbando

Well NO SHIT he'd be mad, youre cheating on him! How could you?!

[Anonymous No.5151200]

>>5151190
Hello, newfriend.
2D husbando = anime husbando, similar to anime waifu but male.
Schizo-kun is this fellow >>5147728, or at least someone who posts drawings in that pic's style and comlpains that he's been doing art for 4 months and can't improve cause he's TaLentLeSS. Usually found in /beg/.

[Anonymous No.5151220]

>>5151142
the smell of lips?

[Anonymous No.5151227]

>>5151220
the smell of the TOP lip

[Anonymous No.5151228]

>>5151093
p-pproooo!

[Anonymous No.5151243]

I want to just start another comic with a whole new story and learn from all my previous mistakes to make it better and more interesting but then I'll never finish my comic that I'm doing now

[Anonymous No.5151263]

>>5151200
Is he talentless though?

[Anonymous No.5151265]

>>5151227
>>5151085
Wtf, how long do you go without washing? Or what sort of smelly food are you smearing all over your face? I haven't washed my face for 2 days and my lip still doesn't smell like anything.

[Anonymous No.5151277]

>>5151265
usually theres a weird smell that lingers after I eat.
sometimes I just lick the top and let the spit dry and smell that afterwards. Makes me instantly horny.

[Anonymous No.5151284]

>>5151243
If you dont want to work on it anymore do what the TGT guy did, release the rest of the story you have written from your current comic then move on.

[Anonymous No.5151297]

>>5151263

[Anonymous No.5151301]

>>5151277

[Anonymous No.5151329]

>>5151284
you mean draw out all of the remaining pages?

[Anonymous No.5151343]

>>5139224
Should have taken drawing seriously 2 years ago, I'm turning 19 soon and I'm pretty bad at drawing.

[Anonymous No.5151348]

>>5151343
>AAAGH IM 19 MY LIEF IS OVER NGMI
Fuck off, dumb zoomer

[Anonymous No.5151350]

>>5151348
This, go back to playing Roblox you neurotic fag

[Anonymous No.5151355]

>>5151348
>>5151350
>nooooooooo you can't joke about ngmi
Have sex

[Anonymous No.5151363]

>>5151329
No, I mean just release the story you have written, as it already is. If its still text, leave it as text, if you've already sketched out the remaining pages, release that. Y'know, just your audience isn't left out not knowing what the rest of the story would've been.
Again, assuming you dont want to work on it anymore. If you want to draw the remaining pages ignore all this shit I said.

[Anonymous No.5151366]

>>5151355
incapable of independent thought

[Anonymous No.5151372]

>>5151366
Lmao

[Anonymous No.5151380]

>Half of artist that i admired in 00s vanished or have normal job now or change major
>i miss them
>just wonder what are they doing now
>doesn't upload anything since 2014

[Anonymous No.5151642]

>>5150722
>>5150782
unfortunately things, money, freetime, even praise from millions can't replace loneliness and inability to connect with anyone. I'd trade all the money in the world just to have a good group of friends & gf I hang out with on the weekend vs having a mansion and no one to share it with.

Materialistic things are nice but they won't make you happy, just like video games or a netflix subscription won't.

[Anonymous No.5151659]

>>5151642
Fuck you! We also are uncapable of connecting with anyone on top of being miserable, poor, lonely and forsaken with only a big pile of failures and seldom any real chance at life.

[Anonymous No.5151676]

>>5151380
>accidentally met the artist that stopped posting a decade ago
>apparently he still drawing at the same pace he was before, he just never upload any of it anymore
>he mentioned he won't post them because of the pressure of living up to his old reputation

Will we fall down in the same path?

[Anonymous No.5151794]

>>5150535
>>5150722
Don't hate them, it's what you have to do to be visible. Everyone's lying about everything on social media so you cannot compete if you post an actual sketch vs. an 8 hour "sketch" the artist made 3d renderings for. If you want to play the social media game, you have to get used to exaggerating or straight up lying. Not everyone is willing to do it and today this means you are not "passionate enough" to do literally everything it takes to achieve success.
And you get no respect from the other side anyway. To most people you are little more than the daily or weekly moments of entertainment they get from the art, and if you are sincere you only come off as boring or pretentious. I think people would rather have the lies as long as they're entertaining.

[Anonymous No.5151803]

>>5151380
I'm morbidly curious and wanna visit some ghost towns. Name some names, anon. Let me gaze and despair at the works of Ozymandias.

[Anonymous No.5151805]

>>5150106
>But anyone who's made the choice to go down that road shouldn't sulk about why they feel hollow and lack motivation
People who decide to just pander are not the kind of people who'd feel hollow doing it. They will always be happy with the money. The ones who feel hollow are people with passion who will never ever fucking make it because they won't just pander.

[Anonymous No.5151823]

>>5151794
>>5151805
>Attention economy made accelerated by the internet, forcing everyone to neurotically scurry around cyberspace like some crackhead; Lying, cheating, sabotaging. Forced to desperately grasp at anything to please the hyper-libidinal crowd, who's attention grows more and more fleeting with every second. What used to hold you afloat for days now becomes milliseconds. Knowing that once you've lost them, you will sink to the bottom and drown. There is no coming back once the eyes are gone. This only gets exponentially crueler and harsher with every new year.

I love my gay dead society. Ted K was right, burn this shit to the ground.

[Anonymous No.5151842]

>>5151794
There are plenty of asian artists which don't lie, they stream and you can see how they produce a full finished beatufiul piece in a couple of hours. I would say the lying game is more of a western kind of thing.

[Anonymous No.5151887]

>>5151842
>There are plenty of asian artists which don't lie, they stream and you can see how they produce a full finished beatufiul piece in a couple of hours.
I don't want to insinuate that they lie and every streamer is a hack fraud, because I don't watch streamers, and I wouldn't know because I'm not a professional liar, but I know for sure that if I made a full finished piece in advance and then set it up as reference somewhere the viewers can't see, I would be able to repeat the thing live like, 10 times faster in a way that looks effortless. The thing about the internet is that you can't really know if someone's lying until he gets caught, that's why lying pays off so much.

[Anonymous No.5151930]

>>5139224
I spent the last week drawing straight lines, ellipses and curves, they look terrifying, but I do it to improve my pen control

What helpa me through the tedium is knowing I am doing reps like a body builder, every line I make gets me closer to become a champion, every shit drawing gives me knowledge of "I will do it better next time"

The thing is, all artists think they make Garbage because their hand and their eye do not level up at the same time, you will always find something to not pic and you will never be satisfied but that's a good thing! It means you will improve even more to the level that your eye wants to see and when you reach it your eye will have also leveled up so it's back to learning!

Don't be sad you find your work sub par, be scared once you find yourself saying "good enough"

[Anonymous No.5151992]

Why are all these eye tutorials from the front view. I can't find a decent tutorial anywhere on the HOW it works. Every single tutorial is just some normie 1-2-3 step thing then share with your friends. Do artists not know what the heck they're doing or is this just something that the artist themselves don't know what they're doing and thus can't really teach it?

[Anonymous No.5152001]

>>5151992
>Every single tutorial is just some normie 1-2-3 step thing then share with your friends. Do artists not know what the heck they're doing
Don't watch youtube crap tutorials, yes they don't know what they are doing and it's not real art instruction, it's infotainment

[Anonymous No.5152030]

>>5152001
Then where do I look? I want an animators understanding. They know what they’re doing without any weird trickery yet I can’t anything good online. Almost as bad as a lack of hair tutorials.

[Anonymous No.5152071]

>>5152030
Nevermind I think I just need to talk to myself a bit what it is I’m not getting.

[Anonymous No.5152078]

>>5148981
I felt the same way. Shoot, even though I've already published my first book, I still feel the same way. What I learned, however, is that there's little use in being concerned over people who hate or don't care about the things you love. You're not writing for them, you're writing for yourself, communicating thoughts and feelings in the hopes that someone - anyone - might read it one day and think "yeah...I get this." For me, all the hours and days grinding away at writing and artwork are worth it as long as at least one person can love it.

Sometimes, that one person has to be you.

[Anonymous No.5152079]

>>5152078
>You're not writing for them, you're writing for yourself
Reminder that this becomes cope the moment you share your artwork online

[Anonymous No.5152159]

>>5151642
So much this>>5151659, holy fuck, not having a gf is the least of my problems now, if I could go back in time and fucking smack the younger me for wasting time and energy on all thosw 'no gf' feels, I'd do that. Moreover, I have a nihilistic outlook on friendship. Perhaps it's just my luck, but friends, while I had them, turned out a drain on resources instead of a resource. You have to spend time with them, make them laugh, give gifts, etc, but when you hit tough times? Are they there for you? Fuck no, they find excuses. Well, perhaps I'm just a boring autistic fuck who can't attract 'real' friends. Then, I imagine, getting rich and successful won't help. Just the opposite: I'd attract even more dishonest shitters, and gold diggers to boot. Nah, now I'm comfy af being alone.

[Anonymous No.5152162]

>>5149973
You certainly aren't going to find many like her on 4Chan, Anon. I wish you the best of luck though!

[Anonymous No.5152165]

>>5152079
Fuck off to twitter, you attentionwhore normie

[Anonymous No.5152166]

>>5152071
I figured it out with enough thinking hats, yay!

[Anonymous No.5152169]

>>5152165
Explain to me logically why, if you make art "for yourself and only yourself" you would feel any need or drive to post it on the internet.

[Anonymous No.5152183]

I just tried to draw a whole forest.

[Anonymous No.5152184]

>>5152169
Well, perhaps there's some lonely sick fuck out there who thinks their taste is weird and shit, but then the will see my work and think 'holy fuck, the author of this must be just like me!'... But mostly because I fucking can and to fuck with you, fucking nornies:3

[Anonymous No.5152186]

>>5152184
>Well, perhaps there's some lonely sick fuck out there
Then you are not making it "for yourself and only for yourself"
cope

[Anonymous No.5152188]

>>5152169
Creating art for yourself doesn't always have the literal meaning of creating art with the sole purpose of only you being able to consume it, it also can simply just means to create art free of any constrictions others have put in place. Either way, it's clear why you are mean and are a silly goose person.

[Anonymous No.5152189]

>>5152188
Oops, added an extra s to 'means'.

[Anonymous No.5152194]

>>5152188
>>5152189
>I swear I am not an attention seeker, I do art for myself

[Anonymous No.5152203]

>>5152186
Lrn to reading comprehension, zoomer. Yeah, I get it, more than 100 symbols is a lot, but I believe in you :3

[Anonymous No.5152222]

every time I draw a face from the front the eyes and chin end up warped and assymetrical,
anyone know how to avoid this?

[Anonymous No.5152227]

>>5148194
You think you're so tough.
You think you're so strong with your pretty lips and thoughtful feelings.

Well, can't argue with that.

[Anonymous No.5152245]

>heart races from tablet notification that as I glance at it
>says “I love you!”
>touch my tablet again
>it’s just from a shitty gatcha game
>despair

[Anonymous No.5152246]

>>5151805
>People who decide to just pander are not the kind of people who'd feel hollow doing it
If you're going to respond to me then follow the thread to see the conversation. A guy was complaining that he feels hollow about pandering, while choosing to pander. I was speaking to him.
>The ones who feel hollow are people with passion who will never ever fucking make it because they won't just pander.
Plenty of examples to the contrary but go ahead and live this way.

[Anonymous No.5152341]

>>5152222
You're committing a typical /beg/ mistake by drawing the eyes one by one. You should loosely marking out their size and location and then working in detail slowly "layer after layer" until you have rendered it correctly

[Anonymous No.5152348]

>>5152183
You make Bob Ross proud

[Anonymous No.5152409]

>>5152341
I'll try that, anon. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.5152918]

Two very annoying Lyft drivers in a row oh my god kill me now. I don’t know if my mom is bad luck or what. The First Lady had a dog in the front seat and she talked to it like it was her own kid. And was bat shit paranoid that we may have COVID. Literally straight out of internet memes,

And the next guy is talking nonstop and speaks so fast it’s like he’s on drugs.

[Anonymous No.5153692]

Last year i discovered i was really good ag drawing the loli/short petite body type. I've now drawn it so much that i've forgotten how to draw curvy anf large breast women. They all just end up looking like little girls with fat thighs. It's over for me. I think i'm in too deep to turn back.

[Anonymous No.5153754]

It doesn't look like I'll be making money drawing porn anytime soon
Feels bad man

[Anonymous No.5153817]

>>5153754
How bad are you? The artist of picrelated makes money and you can't?

[Anonymous No.5153919]

>>5140400
>>5140411
what is crabbing? is this from the phrase "like crabs in a bucket"?

[Anonymous No.5153932]

Why the fuck can I draw everything except portraits of real peoples faces? That seems like the one thing every normie artist knows how to do but it's the one thing I suck at most.

[Anonymous No.5153999]

>>5153692
sounds like you've made it anon

[Anonymous No.5154041]

past the bump limit so relevance doesnt matter. I fucking despise myself. I hate my art, I feel like I've wasted my life pursuing a worthless hobby, even if some people think im "good" now. I never had any value and art will never make up for that. I cant bring myself to kill myself but its all i think about these days, but thats nothing new really. theres a good chance i have cancer and honestly it makes things more bearable because i cant stand the thought of another 40-50 years of this

[Anonymous No.5154263]

>>5154041
Do coom commissions since you got nothing to lose. Hey, you might even gmi who knows

[Anonymous No.5154321]

>>5153919
Exactly that.