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As you know, it is a custom to start the year with the sadlawn challenge. Will you join and try to get good in just one year? It is now or never, post your motivation, the style you want to achieve, and bury a personal item before starting. There is no turning back.

>> No.5138357

>>5138355
this nigga quit in 2 weeks after realizing he couldn't keep drawing more than 3h a day lmao

>> No.5138365

I'm drawing 5-6 hours everyday.

>> No.5138366

>>5138357
kekekek

>> No.5138373

>>5138355
maybe ill do this one day, the consequence of being cemented as a punching bag on 4chan sounds like a good motivator

>> No.5138377

>>5138365
post your progress

>> No.5138380

>>5138377
I'm popping rn

>> No.5138384

>>5138355
Yeah, I'll do it. Do you think we should start a blog like Sadlawn did?>

>> No.5138415

Is he ok >>/ic/thread/S4755525#p4777184 ?

>> No.5138435

>>5138373
Start today so you’re even more motivated to git gud

>> No.5138445

>>5138357
>this nigga quit in 2 weeks after realizing he couldn't keep drawing more than 3h a day lmao
Fakenews >>/ic/thread/S4654045#p4658357

>> No.5138470

>>5138355
I vow to post a thread on ic every single day for year asking how I can get good in a year. I will spend 5-6 hours each day posting in these threads posing as multiple new anons asking the same questions over and over again endlessly. I will accept no responsibility for my failure, frequently complain about others success, blame my lack of Asian heritage and relentlessly discuss talent and it’s existence. See you every single day this year /ic/

>> No.5138494

Ok. I'm gonna do it. So what's the logistics of the challenge? Am I supposed to post every day in this thread? Post when I finish a milestone? Do a progress report at the end of the year? What am I supposed to do?

>> No.5138566

>>5138470
but you've already been doing this for the past several years

>> No.5138585

>>5138494
Just draw with the hard round brush.

>> No.5138619

>>5138494
>challenge
oh no

>> No.5138637

Imagine not having an addiction to drawing

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>>5138445
>GUIZE! GUUUUUUUUUUUUUIZE! its me but i was thinking about posting my works without trip buuuuuuuuut you would recognize my beg scribbles so better not posting at all tee-hee~, but trust me boys im drawing just believe me

ok you sure showed me

>> No.5138679

>>5138470
Thank you for your post

>> No.5138693 [DELETED] 

>>5138355
this is my plan but I'm not logistically set up to start in earnest yet, practically or logistically. hoping to get to that point soon though

>> No.5138697

>>5138355
good luck failing miserably

>> No.5138702

>>5138355
this is my plan but I'm not set up to start in earnest yet, practically or logistically. hoping to get to that point soon though
also what is /ic/'s definition of 'decent artist'? low /int/?

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5138706

I’ll do a different take on it. I’ll vow to get at least good enough within a year that I’ll consistently be able to get quality (You)s on here, and when anons respond, I’ll viciously lash out at them and give them what they fucking deserve, and make that Brian fucker look like a joke

>> No.5138838

>>5138355
i remember that thread, i called him a faggot.

>> No.5138895

>>5138355
what should i do?
should i post a copy/pasted pic tomorrow?
then an improved copy/paste?
then something from my imagination?
>>5138384
gab

>> No.5138928

>>5138384
I started one a few months back. Just haven't updated because I switched to 3d modeling.

>> No.5138948

>>5138838
Based

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>>5138494
>>5138585
>>5138619
I will do it. Since there's no rules, I'm creating my own. Pic related is my current skill level of drawing landscapes and human figure + anime face from imagination. I literally cannot into painting.

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>>5139014
Pic related is my target. In January of 2022, a year from now, I will be drawing roughly on the level of Kim Jung Gi and painting roughly on the level of Feng Zhu. From imagination, no reference, just like they are able to.

Twitter:
https://twitter.com/woefulyard

This is literally the first time I create a social network account where I intend to post, so I will be figuring this shit out as I go. I plan to post original art roughly every two days or so, to document my progress. When I'm saying original art, I mean anything that is not purely a 1:1 copy of a another photo or drawing. Original art that uses references, and photobashing is fair game. I will not be posting my studies there (the stuff that is purely copied), but I may post them on /ic/ to get some critique or opinions, along with my WIPs. In that case I will either be posting in this thread (if it somehow survives) or will make my own. I will be learning by myself, no lessons. I am also 31, not Asian. Just in case you were curious.

I'm gonna start posting on Twitter somewhere in the next 24 hours. That is all.

>> No.5139024

>>5139014
>>5139016
place your bets

>> No.5139028 [DELETED] 

>>5139024
What was the bet of the previous anon?

>> No.5139066

>>5139016
>In January of 2022, a year from now, I will be drawing roughly on the level of Kim Jung Gi and painting roughly on the level of Feng Zhu. From imagination, no reference, just like they are able to.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

well, good luck dude

>> No.5139083

>>5139016
....

>> No.5139108

>>5139016
>woefulyard
kek

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>>5139014
>>5139016
I like your ambition.

>> No.5139176

>>5138470
Excellent post.

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>>5139016
Go for it bro, ignore the fags clowing you

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>>5139016

>> No.5139197

>>5139016
Okay I followed you if you don't post 2 pieces of art within the next seven days I am showing up at your house and telling you you're NGMI

>> No.5139226

When will you faggots understand that getting good at art is all about efficient studies and a consistent routine? You don't have to draw like an autist everyday for 8-10 hours. Just do studies and things you enjoy for 1-2 hours that is good enough if you want to make it. If you force yourself you will burn out and feel suicidal like this faggot who made this challenge.

>> No.5139241

You get good when you learn how to get to get good. Learn how to learn quick. You can do it in few hours in a day if you squeeze things a purpose.

>> No.5139354

>>5139226
but time is also a factor, you would progress much quicker if you drew for 6-8 hours a day rather than just 1-2 hours

>> No.5139422

>>5139354
Debatable. While drawing consistently helps, drawing for long hours everyday might not be helpful at all. Like the other anon said it could lead to burnout, you could stop focusing on your studies and shift to autopilot drawing which will NOT make you better but can hammer in bad habits when you're starting out. You only get as good as you can focus on what you're learning and how to pull it off, the moment you lose focus is the moment you won't learn anything new for the day.
Keep a reasonable schedule, eat healthy and don't waste sleep for an effective study regime.

>> No.5139466

>>5139422
just do pomodoro, lol

>> No.5139518

No way I can do this because working towards STEM degree but I'll be damned if I can't draw basic looking people before February. I just wanna doodle cute anime girls during zoom lectures for now

>> No.5139522

>>5139354
Unless you can focus 100% on your art all the time it's meaningless. Your mental state is more important while you draw than how long you keep drawing.

>> No.5139700

>>5139016
I give you two months. You will not make it past the first quarter of the year...

>> No.5139727

>>5138355
what's the sadlawn challenge?
Because if it's 6 hours a day while I coulda/woulda/shoulda done that while I was being a dumb fucking NEET, I don't think I can enjoyable squeeze in 6 hours a day of drawing while also juggling my school right now.

>> No.5140123

>>5139727
The challenge is Git Gud in 1 year

>> No.5140128
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>>5138566
why stop now I’m on a roll

>> No.5140154

>>5140123
Define gud

>> No.5140176

>>5139016
followed
let's fuckin make it brah
what's your game plan? and do you have an end goal for when you get good? industry job or similar?

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>>5140154

>> No.5140237

>>5140182
I mean, is a kid making money on furshit "gud" or is a master "gud"?
It's a fool's errand to try to be a master in a year. The masters, even the ones that apprenticed under art as kids, weren't masters in a year.
But I can probably get to twitterfur in a year.

>> No.5140291

>>5139226
absolutey based. study things you have troubles with, make master copies so you can learn techniques, branch off from there and make art you want to make all the time.
sitting around like a retard drawing the same cubes over and over again and thinking that's progress is fucked.

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>>5139197
>>5140176
Thanks, anons, I finally made my first post. My plan for now is basically to draw as much as I can, and not focus on specific schedule or program to avoid burnout. The key is to build endurance to allow me to keep going long hours every day, and turn drawing into a habit. In terms of skill, I consider my inability to draw backgrounds and complete lack of understanding of values to be my biggest weakness right now. Pic related is my current painting skill, it's a study from one of Feng's videos. Yeah, ain't looking pretty. So in terms of studies, I plan to focus on doing a lot environment sketches and value painting for now. For twitter, I plan to focus on sketches, and will be slowly introducing more rendered stuff once I get better at it. In terms of making a career out of art, I would love to do character design or illustration, but we'll see if it pans out. I'm not thinking too much about that right now.

>> No.5140995

>>5140833
make a dad account dude and post there

>> No.5141041

>>5139226
yeah sounds good in your delusional head, most intermediate artist I know or have seen have been doing 5+ hours daily for years and yes they do studies all the time, but they're still pretty far from making it. If your idea of making it is /int/ in 3 years this regimen will work.

If I or anyone did this at 1-2 hours a day they'd never make it unless you want to sell low tier furry porn which you probably do because you're clearly a faggot.

>> No.5141054

>>5139226
Draw things you wouldn't draw usually
Build a library.
Draw things you wouldn't draw usually.
Think something up and work on it to reproduce it exactly as you imagined it.
DRAW THINGS YOU WOULDN'T DRAW USUALLY

Nobody needs to draw 200 cubes a day, but every shitter who wants a magic trick to get better don't do something as simple as drawing stuff they haven't drawn before. How good is it to draw a big-boobed anime girl if it's the one and only thing you're able to draw? Draw clothings, draw cars, draw robots, draw nature, draw decors with perspective in them.

>> No.5141059

>>5138380
I do not believe that is what the other Anon meant.

>> No.5141137

>>5140995
I considered this and decided not to for two reasons:

1) I'm a bit scared of burn-out. DAD account implies posting every day, because otherwise what's the point, right? But that will inevitably lead to me posting my worst work, such as my shitty studies. And while nobody probably will care, it will still demotivate me. Since it's the work I've done outside of my comfort zone, it's inevitably going to be worse than usual, and I'm already not satisfied with my current art. The pressure to deliver will either make me quit, or focus so much on producing art daily, that I will neglect to actually take risks and learn.
2) Having DAD account feels kinda useless outside of just building a habit. Posting art actually takes time and energy, and I would rather spend it on an account that can potentially help me build an audience and online presence in the future.

This is why I chose twitter. With my current setup, I'm not forcing myself to post every day. Instead, I have quite a leeway to produce work, while also focusing on studies. We'll see how it works out, but that's the logic.

If I'm wrong about DAD and it's more useful than I realize, tell me.

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>>5141137
>DAD account implies posting every day
you can change the frequency

>would rather spend it on an account that can potentially help me build an audience and online presence
you can do both, post on dad for habit and build your online within dad while you post on your usual blog
join dad

>> No.5141404

You think you can get good in one year? Here's a litmus test for you: for 1 week, do at least 12-18 hours a day, so ~84 hours. If you can do that, you possibly have a chance, if not, take it easy.

>> No.5141497

>>5139226
>When will you faggots understand that getting good at art is all about efficient studies and a consistent routine?

show me a single time this has worked on anyone from /ic/

>> No.5141819

>>5141054
You can do what you suggest but 200 times a day, they are not exclusive.

>> No.5141873

It's really funny and frustrating at the same time to come to /ic/ and see the "sadlawn thread". Yeah I fucked up with the challenge back then but I am much, much better now when it comes to spending time on actual drawing.

But you know, it's a humbling lesson, don't eat more than you can chew. I don't know if there's anything I can do to prove that I am sadlawn and most people won't probably care anyway.

Just try to keep your mental game strong, work with what you have and try to do more stuff that you personally like. Don't commit to anything if you don't have these figured out.

>> No.5141956

>>5141873
At least you came back. People tried similar challenges like this and they never come back. They just leave without saying anything.

>> No.5141984

>>5141041
No one fucking does 5+ hours, mate. Even if they do they don't do it everyday. Most people here just don't know how to study. They don't try to understand the form, values, shapes etc. but only do copying the shit they see without ever using their neurons to see how the subject is made of. If you are drawing for a long time and for excessive hours but didn't improve much means you don't work efficiently. You burn out and get tired and lose your focus after grinding shit. I have seen faggots like you in every art community. You just keep grinding shit without ever using your brain and expect to become good at making illustrations.

>> No.5142034 [DELETED] 

>>5141984
> No one fucking does 5+ hours, mate.
I and my friends have all done 5 hours easily every single day for years, if you're in art school you're doing around 10 hours daily & you'll be doing 40+ if you ever make it into the industry. Hate to burst your bubble buddy but your "just have fun and do what you love & you'll make it eventually :) " is a complete delusion, the industry is competitive af, there's only a few spots and a ton of artists that all want it really bad, so we're all doing this 5-10 hours daily.

nobody did this on 2hours a day, no matter how efficient your studies are, most artist interviews you'll hear "10 hours a day in art school". If my studies aren't efficient, then nobodies would be efficient enough and so your whole idea is flawed.

>> No.5142036

>>5141984
> No one fucking does 5+ hours, mate.
I and my friends have all done 5 hours easily every single day for years, if you're in art school you're doing around 10 hours daily & you'll be doing 40+ work week if you ever make it into the industry. Hate to burst your bubble buddy but your "just have fun and do what you love & you'll make it eventually :) " is a complete delusion, the industry is competitive af, there's only a few spots and a ton of artists that all want it really bad, so we're all doing this 5-10 hours daily.

nobody did this on 2hours a day, no matter how efficient your studies are, most artist interviews you'll hear "10 hours a day in art school". If my studies aren't efficient, then nobodies would be efficient enough and so your whole idea is flawed.

>> No.5142037

>>5142034
POST YOUR PROGRESS

>> No.5142039

>>5142037
>>5142036

>> No.5142042 [DELETED] 

>>5142037
why don't you post your work or prove your in the industry retard

>> No.5142045

>>5142036
lmao you actually believe art students? of course they'd tell impressionable teenagers that you gotta grind till your wrist hurts so they disable as much competition as possible, either literally or figuratively through burnout.
if you draw for 10 hours a day, you're an idiot. don't do it. thank me when you're 40 years old and can still stand up without back and wrist pains.

>> No.5142046

>>5142037
why don't you post your work or prove your in the industry retard, hell why don't you just point to 1 person that became a concept artist on 1-2 hours a day dumb cunt

>> No.5142131

Woh someone did it before me! Cool.
I gain 100 twitter followers today!

>> No.5143837

bump for sadlawn
anyone else wants to give it a good college try?

>> No.5143851

>>5142131
You did? How?

>>5143837
Sadlawn. Woefulyard. Who ist next? Bluemeadow? Sorrowpark?

>> No.5143856

>>5141041
Intermediate artist and art student here. While there are times I drew 8+ h a day the average is closer to 2-4h. Work smarter, not harder...

>> No.5144079

>>5143851
Blue meadow sounds nice. If i ever hit my head and become retarded enough to do this thing i'm gonna pick that name.

>> No.5144164

>>5138706

Brian already is a joke so that's a non-existant bar to set.

>> No.5144172

>>5141873
You sparked a revolution, and I don't think art should be approached in a rational way, so feel proud. History will remember your nickname.

>> No.5144186

>>5141873
Most of these threads are started by kids or at least very young adults. You live and learn. It's good you're still working on your art.

>> No.5144266

>>5141873
pyw if you're better

>> No.5145881

>>5143856
But what if you're working smarter for 8+ hours? That puts you 2x ahead of a person that worked smart only 4 hours

>> No.5146088

>>5145881
Yeah, it most certainly will, but there is little you can do to force it. As long as its intrensically motivated draw as much, as you like, but expect dimishing returns after the 6h mark.
When I discovered /ic/ I was hellbent on improving and spent 12h a day for two months, working through three big artbooks. Others said that I would not be able to follow that schedule, but I told myself others just lacked discipline and that I would be amazing after doing this for a year. Then I burned out and hated drawing for months. I would have made more progress If I hadn't been so stuck up.

I'm not saying "don't ever study 8h a day", I'm saying you don't have to torture yourself to get good in a reasonable amount of time.

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>>5144266
A study that I finished recently. Someday I'll share more but for now I just work in the shadows. One of my goals is to get really, really good and then talk about failures like sadlawn thing so people can avoid that, or do it in a much better way.

>> No.5146358

>>5145881
>But what if you're working smarter for 8+ hours?
stop lying to yourself anon, if even half of that time is spent studying or doing figure drawings then you're not working smarter

>> No.5146506

>>5146222
Thats cool! I am glad you are improving, also checked

>> No.5148005

>>5146222
This looks very cool on the first glance, but then you look closer and realize that it's a bit all over the place. You really need to ditch lineart, it holds you back. Also, part of what makes drawing good is understanding composition and design language, and those skills are hard to gauge from a study like this. It's clear that you're getting there, but I want to see your actual finished work.

>> No.5148163

>>5148005
>and realize that it's a bit all over the place
Can you elaborate on that part? The purpose of this study is to make something that looks cool, an exercise in creating a cool aesthetic so to speak, so if that's good, it's good. I definitely work on other aspects such as composition and design language so when I do eventually post other stuff, people will be able to judge it accordingly

>> No.5148186

>>5148005
>You really need to ditch lineart, it holds you back
Drawing is the baseline skill for everything else so it should never, ever be abandoned. I've seen many painters (especially on here) who have extremely weak drawing abilities and it shows in their paintings. There's a noticeable lack in structure and a habit in hiding behind edges and fanciful mark making that is prevalent throughout their work.

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>>5148163
>Can you elaborate on that part?
Yeah, I'm mostly talking about anatomy. Even if you don't know much about horses, when you think about the shape of the nose and top of the head and try to imagine it in 3d, it becomes pretty clear that it doesn't really make much sense. I feel like you failed to capture overall shape of the horse's head. For example, if I was 3d modeler and needed to model this, I wouldn't know what to do.

But you definitely succeeded in making it look cool. Shapes are interesting and this thing is dynamic as fuck.

>>5148186
>Drawing is the baseline skill for everything else so it should never, ever be abandoned
Never said not to draw. I just meant, remove lineart from the render itself. That doesn't mean that you should not do underdrawing or a sketch on the level below. You should also just in general practice drawing much more than rendering.

>> No.5148733

>>5138706
Why do real people do the meme version of the ahegao? Do weebs really jack off to this?

>> No.5148746

>>5141137
you are not unreasonable in your assessment

>> No.5148749

I've got classes nigga!

>> No.5148752

>>5138355
I can only draw chubby women with pubic and armpit hair while packing a semi-chub, lest I am unable to feel the form.

>> No.5148823

>>5148752
not a problem at all, anon. you can always get better at drawing chubby women with pubic and armpit hair while packing semi-chub. join the challenge, in a year you gonna be swimming in patreon money.

>> No.5151062

>>5148752
based venus artist