/BEG/ Thread

[Anonymous No.5137308]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the Drawthread with fundamental exercises.

POST DRAWINGS YOU NEED HELP WITH!

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in picresize.com

Sticky document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

Take your time, you can do it.
Previous Thread: >>5133252

[Anonymous No.5137328]

how do i shade metal and what brush should i use ? i was told i shouldnt use airbrush

[Anonymous No.5137350]

>Drawabox: DON'T grind these lessons. Do them once and move on
>Peter Han: 6 pages minimum of these exercises, the more the merrier. Keep grinding
Who has it right?

[Anonymous No.5137357]

How the fuck do you sight when your reference is a small picture? I am from a conservative country so figure drawing classes are something we only see in movies.

[Anonymous No.5137370]

>>5137350
do you wanna draw or spend 6 hours drawing squiggly lines? dont grind retard

[Anonymous No.5137388]

>>5137370
my enjoyment is besides the point
which is going to produce better results is my question. whether i enjoy it or not is tangential to my progress

[Anonymous No.5137393]

Am I GMI?

[Anonymous No.5137400]

>>5137388
Are you able to do it somewhat well? Do the next step.
Are you a retard and can't do it? Keep on doing it/do a bit of it every day.

[Anonymous No.5137404]

Any good tips for learning the wrinkles of clothes? I didnt use any reference for the outfit of this pic so it's super sloppy and I've learned my lesson on that regard. I guess what I'm asking is if there is a resource on top of references that I can look into.

[Anonymous No.5137420]

>>5137404
why the bognadoff face

[Anonymous No.5137435]

I need a critique. I'm trying to learn vilppu gesture and I know I did a bad job at it, but can I have advice on how to do a better job?

[Anonymous No.5137441]

>>5137420
I'm still learning structure right now. Sorry if the face looks bad

[Anonymous No.5137442]

>>5137435
first did you try and watch some vilppu gestures videos? Second try and draw the center line first, from head all the way down to her feet

[Anonymous No.5137447]

>>5137404
the best references is fashion magazines for clothes. Try looking at the video course thread for some clothes videos.

[Anonymous No.5137449]

this is messy as hell but i'm really tripped up at the moment
I can't seem to find a clear answer on where the origins of the rectus abdominis and obliques (both internal and external) lie. Every diagram seems to have them attached to different ribs, unless I'm misinterpreting something.

[Anonymous No.5137450]

>>5137442
>first did you try and watch some vilppu gestures videos?
I'm watching his videos on gesture demonstration right now and attempting to copy along as he does it.

>Second try and draw the center line first, from head all the way down to her feet
I'll try that next time.

[Anonymous No.5137451]

>>5137447
Thanks! Would it be worth it to stock up on physical magazines or just to try and find digital versions?

[Anonymous No.5137456]

>>5137449
forgot to add, the abdominal head of the pectoralis major as well, supposedly its origin is at the 5th rib but I dont see it with how the sternal head is situated

[Anonymous No.5137458]

>>5137450
if you can try and watch his NMA videos, they are much clearer and better quality

[Anonymous No.5137459]

>>5137458
>>5137450
>>5137442
Vilppu doesn't do a line all the way down to the feet. He generally stops the line around the pelvis area.

[Anonymous No.5137462]

>>5137451
physical is good for a quick references but you can get more references with digital

[Anonymous No.5137469]

>>5137451
Also here is some links on clothes don't know how good they are though.
https://b-ok.cc/book/737858/a7a131
https://b-ok.cc/book/3580847/992e09?dsource=recommend

[Anonymous No.5137472]

>>5137469
Thanks anon. I'll bookmark these for when I'm back on my pc

[Anonymous No.5137494]

I bought an eraser pencil thinking I could cut away shadows straight into highlights, for stuff like drawing white hair on a dark area.

It just kinda sucks though. It's far more effective to just shape my kneadable eraser into a point repeatedly, and dab it on the area I want instead of using this.

[Anonymous No.5137504]

>>5137494
This isnt for erasing stupid. Its for drawing highllights on Kraft paper

[Anonymous No.5137511]

>>5137435
Nice drawing proko

[Anonymous No.5137515]

>>5137511
Speaking of proko, is proko worth listening to for figure drawing?

[Anonymous No.5137523]

I drew a bun

[Anonymous No.5137550]

>>5137504
I feel like I covered that in my first sentence but alright

[Anonymous No.5137784]

do you set up linear perspective and vps for every drawing ever after learning it

[Anonymous No.5137907]

How do I get better?

[Anonymous No.5137924]

Did those to get better how to draw appealing anime faces, used Bengus as a reference mostly, but I feel like I am not getting it right. Any tips and critique?

[Anonymous No.5137926]

>>5137435
looks perfect to me

[Anonymous No.5137937]

how do I actually go on coloring a picture in atmospheric and/or different colored lighting?
I just don't know where to start, and I just paint all my drawings as if the subjects are under normal daylight

[Anonymous No.5138019]

>>5137435
>can I have advice on how to do a better job?
Yeah, it's actually stupid easy. You just need to do 99 more of these every day and you will improve.

[Anonymous No.5138027]

Values is hell, as is symbol drawing

[Anonymous No.5138037]

>>5136696
so how do i fix it? can you please point out specifically where the scratchiness and line weight mistakes are and how to fix it?
>>5135796

[Anonymous No.5138045]

>>5138037
Not that guy but the pixelated look does kind of make it look unappealing.

[Anonymous No.5138051]

>>5138045
yeah it was something with the daub fluid ink layer thing, i think i will try to run some kind of blur over it next time. tho honestly i do like the texture of aliased lines for some reason

[Anonymous No.5138065]

>>5137435
Just learn proko. It's not only easier but it's almost the same method.

[Anonymous No.5138082]

how can i improve?

[Anonymous No.5138091]

>>5137924
you're probably just thinking things because anime hasn't looked like this since the 80s. these days you'd find that style in a webcomic or something

[Anonymous No.5138103]

>>5138082
paint and draw from life and reference

[Anonymous No.5138125]

I couldn't be bothered today, but I still managed 20-minute shitposts to stay motivated somewhat.

[Anonymous No.5138126]

>>5137523
Nice bun anon

[Anonymous No.5138129]

>>5138103
is that bad?
anyway, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.5138169]

>>5138051
Fuck man the sketches in your pic are the exact kind of thing I want to draw. How long does that skill level take? I am absolute /beg/

Is it weird that I can look at what is, technically, very accomplished art on here all day with total indifference and yet simple sketches like these are what get me in the end? There something about just lines and an expression that really appeals to me

[Anonymous No.5138208]

>>5138169
thanks
sketches definitely have an appeal and half of it is because the messy lines cover up the mistakes lol

i would say less than a year of drawing and studying most days to get where i am. but i have some background where i drew as a child and whatever. so tack on some more months if you are a complete beginner

the book sequence i would recommend is bargue (don't need to finish the whole thing), perspective made easy, drawing the head and hands, figure drawing for all its worth, vilppu drawing manual. did some drawabox too

and buy some conte charcoal pencils they look and draw a lot nicer than pencils lol

[Anonymous No.5138221]

Any critique? I tried to play with the colors in the hair

[Anonymous No.5138230]

>>5138221

borgar :DDDD

[Anonymous No.5138237]

>>5138208
Thanks man! I appreciate the info. The only thing I really have done is copy and go by imagination on my own, but I've yet to check out any books.

I know you will anyways but definitely keep drawing - you have that "soul" quality to your art that makes it mean something!

[Anonymous No.5138288]

>>5137308
sapo

[Anonymous No.5138300]

>>5137308
Mixed media piece I did. Will respond with ref

[Anonymous No.5138303]

>>5138300

[Anonymous No.5138349]

>>5138300
you change the shape of her head. Her torso is also to long compare to the ref. Not a bad try but could be much better.

[Anonymous No.5138364]

>>5137924
Lornell's right eye isnt the correct size compared to his left.

[Anonymous No.5138375]

Sometimes when I'm drawing something from reference my attention drifts away and I start just halfassing it. I notice I have this issue with either faces or very detailed objects like buildings, machines etc.
How can I get rid of this bad habit?

[Anonymous No.5138382]

>>5138375
I had this issue to a degree. Just stop drawing the picture. Go draw something else or just take a break. The drawing isn’t going anywhere and it’s okay to go back to it whenever you feel that focus is back

[Anonymous No.5138400]

>>5138375
In addition to what other anons have said, I usually force myself to constantly look back and forth between the ref and my drawing. I try to only draw one or two lines before I look back at the ref- if you spend too much time looking at your own drawing you start making guesses instead of using the information in your reference

[Anonymous No.5138413]

Had a lot of fun drawing this. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.5138423]

Anyone else finding that as they get better they're starting to realise how shit they are?

Pic is of my progress and what I consider to be milestone drawings throughout the year.

For example around the July ones I felt really good about reaching my goals.
Whilst with the Oct-Dec ones I still felt I was progressing but with every step I take I realise there is 5 more.

[Anonymous No.5138427]

Drawing hair that looks nice is hard

[Anonymous No.5138431]

>>5138423
When people say to “enjoy the process of learning” this is why. There’s always going to be stuff you can do better at no matter what level of artist you are, so you might as well enjoy learning.

[Anonymous No.5138463]

Tried a perspective exercise, doing the lines without shift clicking (except for the horizon). Still having trouble with form and projecting 2D on perspective planes (like the ellipses on the sides of some of the cubes). Any feedback is appreciated.

[Anonymous No.5138469]

>>5137907
>>5137907
reilly head my dude

[Anonymous No.5138474]

>>5138469
>reilly head my dude
Different anon, but what makes reilly better than say loomis?

[Anonymous No.5138476]

>>5138288
>guess just
>I'll chill

[Anonymous No.5138478]

>>5138474
The sacred geometry looks cool and if you leave it in normies think you’re a wizard/astrophysicist

[Anonymous No.5138528]

whats wrong with me? they sent me here

[Anonymous No.5138543]

>>5138528
stop shading with black for starters

[Anonymous No.5138552]

>>5138543
Yeah. Associating with blacks is a terrible idea.

[Anonymous No.5138575]

>>5138528
I mean anon the reason why is because basically everything needs work. Proportions, sense of form, face, rendering, it’s all pretty fucked. I’m not saying that to make you feel bad, just trying to be honest. I would suggest looking at the link in the OP and hitting the books for a while

[Anonymous No.5138579]

I made this drawing a while ago, and I can tell that it looks bad but what should I do to improve it?

[Anonymous No.5138593]

>>5138579
It looks incredibly stiff to me for one. Work on your gesture and utilize a line of action.

[Anonymous No.5138598]

>>5138575
I've drawn on paper without using any references my whole childhood. after vidya games I stopped drawing and painting, now I have an iPad and I want draw appalling things. yeah, I am fundamentally flawed, I know, but I dont want to waste time with 101 courses as well. However, If I have to, I will, I trust you guys. What should I do really, what's the plan? Where should I go?

[Anonymous No.5138604]

>>5138598
>but I dont want to waste time with 101 courses
>However, If I have to, I will, I trust you guys. What should I do really, what's the plan? Where should I go?
Grind 101 courses like >>5138575 said. Check the OP.

[Anonymous No.5138607]

>>5138598
for starters:
>keys to drawing
>drawing on the right side of the brain
>draw a box
>perspective made easy

[Anonymous No.5138687]

>>5138593
That sounds like a good idea. Any other advice? I feel like some other things are off but I can't really pinpoint them myself (other than the weird left that is too far down lol)

[Anonymous No.5138742]

>>5138579
For a colored piece it's difficult to make shading with black/highlighting with white, especially with soft round brush or whatever you did, not look terrible. I'd avoid for now.

Start taking note of when you think shading looks well done in the cartooning you like and look into some tutorials on choosing nice color palettes.

[Anonymous No.5138794]

>>5138742
But I used purple shading, did I make it too dark?

[Anonymous No.5138803]

>>5138794
If that's the case I think so, it still looks harsh to me.

[Anonymous No.5138805]

>>5138598
Replace vidya with art

[Anonymous No.5138822]

>>5137393

looks good, I'm not a big Fun With Pencil type of guy. It's good at teaching yourself how to stylize (by just practicing his style...) so its up to you really idk draw a box and go fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.5138835]

crit pls
i think eyes are a bit low

>>5138579
shading is too soft and like other anon pointed out shadow colors don't look good. study some color theory, watch some videos like marco bucci's on shadow values and lighting

>>5138427
try shading with side of pencil and watch proko's video on shading hair

>>5137393
>loomis
yes

>>5137328
dont u righties have your own general
anyways especially for metal use a hard brush. the key is to have really high contrast, with bright highlights and dark shadow/reflection bits

>>5138300
you should be blending with the color pencils to make it smoother. but that's a huge pain which is why i recommend paints or markers instead unless you're goal is photorealism stuff

[Anonymous No.5138836]

>>5138598
>I want draw appalling things
you are well on your way of drawing appaling things, check the video course thread right now and clone the /ic/ mega folder

[Anonymous No.5138845]

>>5138835
>crit pls
>i think eyes are a bit low
what's the ref

[Anonymous No.5138857]

>>5138835
- It looks like the neck is not centered on the bottom of the skull but is growing out of the left side of her head
- Even if her hair is really voluminous it looks like the cranium is too big for her face (I think this is where you’re getting “the eyes look low” from)
- Looks like you drew the mouth and nose in a profile view instead of matching with the eyes

[Anonymous No.5138867]

>>5138845
>>5138857
its profile
can u redline the neck pls

[Anonymous No.5138883]

>>5138835
first of all, I really appreciate how you did the hair with the medium, though some areas shouldn't be completely white
second, you fucked the forehead which misplaced the entire face

[Anonymous No.5138887]

is it fine to read bridgmans anatomy book? heard it's pretty tough for beginners, but it should be fine since you're only supposed to follow the pictures, right?

[Anonymous No.5138902]

>>5138883
thx, yeah i think i angled it forward too much

>>5138887
how beginner are you?

[Anonymous No.5138940]

>>5138902
i'd say mid beg

[Anonymous No.5138944]

Did this one, it is still without shadows, just plain colors for now. Wanted to add a background but really dont know what to do so

[Anonymous No.5138964]

[Anonymous No.5138965]

>>5138867
Hope this helps.

[Anonymous No.5138983]

I really don't like my artstyle and how I draw certain parts of the body.

Is there anything I can do to consciously change it?

[Anonymous No.5138992]

>>5138983
Style is just decision making. For you to not like it, there’s something about your decision making you inherently don’t like. Try learning why exactly that is and look at how other people draw different body parts

[Anonymous No.5139039]

I did a little more.

[Anonymous No.5139060]

>>5137449
don't overthink about the placements and just learn the ""landmarks"" of the body... pic related I use the abs to help me flesh out the surroundings also use reference...

[Anonymous No.5139114]

Hampton study

[Anonymous No.5139120]

>>5139039

Are you taking a picture of your screen?

[Anonymous No.5139134]

Today's doodles. Any critiques for today's or for my doodles from the past couple days?
>>5136756
>>5134965

[Anonymous No.5139138]

>>5139120
Yes?

[Anonymous No.5139142]

>>5137449
look up bodybuilders for better reference and stop overthinking it and simplify them

[Anonymous No.5139175]

>>5139138
I mean, using your phone to take a screenshot of the monitor screen. If you are, why not take a picture in your PC desktop.

[Anonymous No.5139178]

>>5137308
>tfw your shitty drawing gets picked by OP
was supposed to be this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJbPiWzGVmg

[Anonymous No.5139187]

anyone got a good diagram on where the eyes are placed in the skull?

[Anonymous No.5139192]

>>5138822
:*

[Anonymous No.5139212]

How are my gestures?

[Anonymous No.5139217]

test

[Anonymous No.5139225]

>>5139187
feel like im way off

[Anonymous No.5139234]

>>5139225
you could probably google for pictures of emaciated people to get a good idea. Like Jews in concentration camps or that one skinny goth girl on instagram. Even with this photo you can get a feel for where her eyeballs are centered in her sockets.

[Anonymous No.5139335]

>>5137350
>doing dexterity exercises with the literal easiest drawing tool to use
>doesn't include tone building/value scales for some reason
The entire premise was wrong in the first place.

>>5137388
You're not a machine dumbass, managing your motivation is of paramount importance for long term progress.

Menial exercises like lines and tones, or boxes and cylinders, are fine as a warmup, and they're a good way to punch the clock when you don't have energy to keep up a consistent drawing habit. But they're a horrible waste of days when you have motivation, which will be most days when you've got the initial enthusiasm that lead you to take up some new hobby.

[Anonymous No.5139343]

Doing an anatomy course and the first thing I'm supposed to do is draw a skull. How do I make this look more human and less like some ape? Plus, it's supposed to be in 3/4 view but I think my horizontal line made it so I'm looking down on the skull instead of at it from an angle

[Anonymous No.5139347]

>>5139343
Obviously this skull isn't supposed to be super detailed, but even trying to copy it is an issue. This is the one from the lesson I'm working through

[Anonymous No.5139352]

>>5139217
(you)

[Anonymous No.5139358]

>>5137308
why do my heads always come out so bad?
I've watched a dozen of yt tutorials following along as they draw, but my heads just don't seem right. Do I need to grind drawing circles and ovals until they're perfect?
(Complete /beg/, been drawing shitty pictures for the most part of my life, but only started learning the fundamentals less than a month ago)
Cheers.

[Anonymous No.5139371]

>>5139347
sorry i may be retarded, but is this yours or is this one you're trying to draw?

[Anonymous No.5139375]

hai guyise!!

am new 2 drawing!! x333 any1 wanna crit dis PIECE??? thx !! hehe uwu

[Anonymous No.5139385]

>>5139371
This is the one I'm trying to draw

[Anonymous No.5139392]

>>5139385
Jesus christ man, just draw a normal skull. Here, this one's on the house.

[Anonymous No.5139394]

>>5139385
you're not going to learn anything sketching a sketch of a sketch

[Anonymous No.5139397]

>>5139392
>>5139394
Yeah figured. I just don't know how to get the most out of these videos without pulling up a reference every 2 minutes. To be fair it would probably be more helpful if I did that

[Anonymous No.5139412]

>>5139375
tits too small

[Anonymous No.5139437]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.5139450]

>>5139437
The bridge sides aren't even. Won't comment on the rest because I suck at art and don't do painting, but the bridge stood out to me

[Anonymous No.5139500]

>>5139358
unironically loomis - fun with a pencil
do it

[Anonymous No.5139564]

how do I practice construction effectively?
study other artist construction? figure drawing but instead of copying recreating them with construction?

[Anonymous No.5139568]

>>5139564
That’s what I’ve been doing. Been looking at Hampton’s book and copying his art as well as using construction to construct figure drawings

[Anonymous No.5139578]

>>5139564
>figure drawing but instead of copying recreating them with construction
I've been doing that for a while, it seems to work. Or at least I'm disappointed less often with the end result because I removed all the dumb things when sketching.

[Anonymous No.5139585]

>>5139568
>>5139578
thanks, I'll try out hampton and bridgman and applying it to some figure studies

[Anonymous No.5139594]

https://youtu.be/WlHYvQzrsA8

[Anonymous No.5139600]

Learn proko as well if you like figure drawing.

[Anonymous No.5139619]

>>5139564
The latter is where most of the learning will happen. That’s the point of drawing this way, anyway. Constructive drawing is a way of simplifying and breaking down what you see to make it easier to understand and draw and remember.

[Anonymous No.5139713]

How many years does it take until I can draw as well as my favorite coom artist?

[Anonymous No.5139789]

>>5139713
The artist will say it took them 10-15 years but they spent most of those doing boring shit for money or being in high school drawing anime and barely improving.

[Anonymous No.5139800]

I wanna be a cowboy, baby

[Anonymous No.5139821]

>>5139789
Yeah don’t assume every pro artist had been drawing 16 hours a day since they were 12. like most people, many pro artists also spent a lot of time screwing around and slacking off being a teen and a young adult screwing around until life lit a fire under their ass so hot that they had no choice but to become gmi.

[Anonymous No.5139935]

>>5139039
The only thing beg about this picture is the fucking quality. You're a retard.

[Anonymous No.5139945]

ngl playing with proportions is fun, might post the whole character sheet later

[Anonymous No.5139965]

>>5139789
Nobody is honest enough to include the decade or more of practice, they'll just say it took them a year after they "got serious".

[Anonymous No.5139971]

I find loomis better for figure drawing than vilppu.

[Anonymous No.5139974]

>>5139175
>>5139935
I'll capture better images when I get better. I promise.

[Anonymous No.5139977]

>>5139138
>>5139974
Press the print screen button and paste it into any painting program then crop the image out next time.

[Anonymous No.5139987]

>>5139977
windows has had a proper screen capture program since 8. press Win+shift+S, it's way faster than using MS paint

[Anonymous No.5140022]

>>5139987
if you use a windows version past 7 then microsoft owns all of the artwork made on the computer.

[Anonymous No.5140024]

Is getting design doll a good idea?
It's 80 bucks and looks like it would make like 10 times easier since you can create your won references.
Is there any free alternative? Seems like the "free" version doesn't allow you to load anything or use the doll downloads.
Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.5140033]

>>5137308
I’m trying to draw someone biting someone else’s neck ( a zombie) but I’m struggling with the skull of the zombie doing the biting

[Anonymous No.5140043]

>>5137308
First time digitally painting.
How would i make the bear reflect light correctly? the fur reference im using feels like its dispersed kinda everywhere and im not very comfortable painting it yet.
Any thoughts?

[Anonymous No.5140046]

>>5139945
Alright mannequins are done, any feedback on proportions and armony between the characters before I quickly design them?

[Anonymous No.5140049]

>>5140046
Hands on the far left one are too big

[Anonymous No.5140051]

>>5140024
bruv the full version is ridiculously easy to find for free

[Anonymous No.5140061]

>>5140043
his left arm looks like he's wearing a different armor piece especially around the elbow

[Anonymous No.5140072]

>>5140049
That's an intentional choice to show how the guy on the left Is actually the strongest one, think of like how some Street Fighter characters have big hands to compliment their strenght

[Anonymous No.5140083]

>>5139358
the way you're slicing the pieces off the sphere in step 2 makes no sense, you shouldn't see ellipses since they are parallel with your eyes.
i don't think you really understand how to represent 3d form, read a book on perspective and draw from reference. and do bargue to learn observation.

>>5139343
your guideline also doesn't make sense and isn't accurate for how a line wraps on a sphere, u should also do bargue and read a book on perspective

[Anonymous No.5140136]

>>5139987
Windows has a "scissors" and start menu search from 7 (or even Vista).

[Anonymous No.5140145]

>>5140033
it's a zombie, leave it hanging somewhere.

[Anonymous No.5140151]

>>5140051
But what about the downloads? Don't I need models?

[Anonymous No.5140152]

>>5140145
Oh wow, thanks a ton for this. Drawing the skull in different perspectives is def something I need to work on

[Anonymous No.5140190]

>>5139789
>>5139965
So, how much time will it realistically take?

[Anonymous No.5140241]

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE DRAWTHREAD GENERAL?

[Anonymous No.5140253]

QUESTION
I can't do contours as in Dynamic Sketching
help
So I make a circular motion across the form and then draw half of it
but it's not working out, help? CANT DO FORM YOU KNOW

[Anonymous No.5140274]

Semi-beg here... Been on and off the drawing lessons for a while now. I use a book, I use Udemy, I use /ic/, I use drawbox... I am realizing that for drawing, I need some sort of classroom guidelines/syllabus to kind of help me with my studies. I would love to take an actual course, but COVID is keeping me locked up inside.

Does anyone have a syllabus that would be worth following? What books to read? What sequence of practice is best (shapes > plants > animals > perspective > people > etc)
Is there actually someone online that does remote teaching? I know you can't just study and get a checkmark to pass drawing, but I feel like I need a structured learning approach and me just picking random books doesn't help cause I loose motivation. My goal is to want to draw anime/disney style people. I've always wanted to draw stylized people. I would love to just start with drawing people, but I know I need to learn shapes, perspective, anatomy, etc. But I don't know what path will take me there... Any structured approach advice or even links to online teachers would be so appreciated.

[Anonymous No.5140300]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

im not int but not beg either where the fuck do i go post/ask study related stuff, alt is just finished works dump and the drawthread is dead as fuck not to mention im not at that level yet...

[Anonymous No.5140313]

>>5140300
>not at that level yet
pyw

[Anonymous No.5140315]

why did nobody tell me hands were hard to draw?
These are 60 second gestures btw

[Anonymous No.5140326]

>>5140315
Draw the fingers as cylindrical forms. These are decent but a bit messy in terms of lines

[Anonymous No.5140327]

>>5139134
These are starting to look alright anon, you should be proud. A word of advice, if you want people to look at these you should make sure the thumbnail is clear and readable. The bg color and line colors are too similar in value. It's hard to look at in full res, in a thumbnail, you don't stand a chance.

You can use your knowledge of contour, shape and form to make a passable figure, but when you look closer it falls apart. You should really dive into anatomy practice, I get the impression that you don't actually know how the muscles work. George Bridgman and Dr. Paul Richer's books helped me out a lot, maybe look them up.

Gesture needs work too, but I'm not that great at it either. Draw from life and do 30 sec gestures when you do, you'll get better if you put in the time.

Last thing I'd say is keep your forms consistent. Don't show me a face in profile when I'm clearly looking down on it as well as to the side. Don't cop out, really make sure your aware of where the general planes of your forms should be facing.

Good luck anon :D

[Anonymous No.5140345]

Critique please anons, 2 minutes each.

[Anonymous No.5140347]

>>5140313
i can draw the hands better in the tp right image i swear, it was a late night shitpost

[Anonymous No.5140348]

>>5140345
Did you follow proko or vilppu? I'm just curious.

[Anonymous No.5140351]

>>5140345
im feeling the flow

[Anonymous No.5140361]

Opinion on this design? Didn't draw his swords because it's supposed to be for a reference sheet of all my OCs

[Anonymous No.5140364]

>>5140348
I've watched proko's gesture vids but mainly focused on imitating Vilppu as much as possible. Also a bit of Hampton here and there especially for defining the ribcage and hips..

[Anonymous No.5140368]

>>5140364
>>5140345
talent

[Anonymous No.5140370]

>>5137308

i have a hard time with poses looking weird. how did i do on this one?

[Anonymous No.5140371]

>>5140364
You make vilppu look easy.

[Anonymous No.5140374]

I took another step.

[Anonymous No.5140389]

I took another step.

[Anonymous No.5140392]

>>5140347
not beg go away

[Anonymous No.5140398]

>>5137308
Hi,
I was trying the Igor Stravinsky upside down thing and obliously since it's My First Time actually tring to draw It came out like shit, no surprise here
Should I retry until i git Gud or it's Better to try different references? What about trying to Copy stylized drawings?

[Anonymous No.5140403]

>>5140398
Don't worry, that's not the point so don't stress about a perfect copy, go and draw what you want to draw, fail and see what you got to learn, it's meant to teach you some concepts not grind it to perfection.

[Anonymous No.5140407]

>>5140389
Yur shit is nice, but you gotta learn to take better pics, dude. Are you doing this shit by hand or is it digital?

[Anonymous No.5140414]

>>5140370
His ass looks heavy. I like it.

But on a serious note, if you angled his right foot slightly more towards the viewer it would look a lot less stilted. In your reference you can see how his right foot is angled more towards us, and this gives him a more natural looking pose, but in your drawing the foot is faced perpendicular to the viewer, which makes it look really stiff and unnatural. Similarly, you drew his left leg angled more outwards than in the reference picture, which also makes it look a bit stiff. The only other major issue I can see is that on the reference pic, the actual waistline is covered by his webgear, canteen and pouches, meaning that we only see the lower half of his groin. You don't seem to have taken this into account for your picture, meaning his left arm looks way too short, ending at about groin height when it should be ending about halfway down his thigh. This same issue makes his right arm's upper arm far too short.

I still really like it though. Top tier soul.

[Anonymous No.5140416]

>>5137550
are you using kraft paper?

[Anonymous No.5140419]

>feel guilty playing vidya cause I could be drawing instead
>feel guilty going out cause I could be drawings instead
>feel guilty sleeping cause I could be drawing instead

[Anonymous No.5140422]

>>5140361
>his swords
That guy looks like some kung-fu monk class, either he has too much armor or too little at this point.

[Anonymous No.5140423]

>>5140347
Your stuff looks fine. Did you get shitposted to death in the drawthread or are you just assuming that will happen?

[Anonymous No.5140425]

>>5140392
where, drawthread genearl is out of my league and non of the other generals outside of here are for studying at least not for my current level and making a int general always turns into pure shitposting

[Anonymous No.5140430]

>>5140419
>start drawing but feel guilty im not enjoying part of my time
>let's just watch some youtube vids and lurk some threads
>2h later

[Anonymous No.5140436]

>>5140414

thanks a ton for the help, glad you unironically find it soulful. i am pretty self concious about things looking soulless or not

[Anonymous No.5140443]

How to make my back not hurt after drawing?

[Anonymous No.5140444]

>>5140425
Just go on reddit at this point, you can probably ask for crits on r/art or something.
They seem to be even bigger attention whores than the rest of the site but maybe someone will be helpful.

Either that or start coloring the pieces so you have more stuff to fuck up and end up on /beg/'s radar again.

[Anonymous No.5140453]

>>5140423
havent posted there recently but you get the usual answers like keep studying bro or read this book, i dont do finished pieces just studies so i wanted something like beg where most of the people are studying and posting studies related stuff so you can learn fro their woprk too

[Anonymous No.5140476]

>>5140364
>>5140345
This is better than vilppu.

[Anonymous No.5140488]

>>5140364
Not sure what's happening with this one but the rest look fine

[Anonymous No.5140493]

>>5140444
I don't wanna be that guy, but /r/learnart is better for learning to actually draw than the entirety of /ic/ combined. If it weren't for the fact that /ic/ has much better resources I'd never even come here.

[Anonymous No.5140497]

>>5140488
Yeah, the arm on the left looks wrong but other than that is there anything wrong?

[Anonymous No.5140511]

>>5140497
Well, last time I checked, people's necks don't usually grow out of their sternums.

[Anonymous No.5140512]

>>5140497
The gesture on the rest of them looks nice. It's just that one where it looks kinda awkward. Post the ref if you have it.

[Anonymous No.5140521]

help, i dont know if these uhhhh skin folds are correct is this the right place where they occur ? im not sure since the obliques are there and the ribcage is forteshortened and im not sure if it should make some kind of dentation for that kind of twist

[Anonymous No.5140531]

>>5140512

[Anonymous No.5140535]

FAILED AGAIN

[Anonymous No.5140536]

Tried to do my best after seeing a video regarding character designs and the importance of shapes. Can I get a feedback on the design of all three and in general? I feel like I am improving but everytime I draw them they look like they're drawn in another art style and I don't know if this habit is natural or not. btw those are supposed to be the main characters of a comic/game I want to make in future

[Anonymous No.5140545]

>>5140536
Your proportions are way off. Waaaay off. They guy on the left has bigger hands than Rena from Higurashi.

[Anonymous No.5140554]

Tried this style again
Only to fail

[Anonymous No.5140556]

>>5140554
FAILED

[Anonymous No.5140557]

>>5140556
Others do this as their first attempt
I CANT GRASP VALUES
HATE

[Anonymous No.5140590]

>>5140531
That pose just looks bad. Maybe try playing around with the legs, that's the main difference I see between yours and the ref.

[Anonymous No.5140609]

>>5140493
Yea, just make sure that any female you draw isn't overtly sexy. They'll ignore you if you do.

[Anonymous No.5140634]

>>5140535
>>5140554
>>5140556
>>5140557
I really don't usually say this but you need to find another hobby

[Anonymous No.5140635]

>>5140634
Don't feed the schizos.

[Anonymous No.5140639]

>>5140634
Brutal. But yeah, if you actually have been practicing for 6 months and your drawings come out like that and you haven't been enjoying your time, it's the truth.

[Anonymous No.5140643]

>>5140634
Why?
Give me something to draw, as a test
Time it if you want
>>5140639
5 MONTHS not 6

[Anonymous No.5140647]

>>5140639
Give me something to draw, as a test
We'll see then

[Anonymous No.5140649]

>>5140639
>>5140634
SOMETHING
ANYTHING
FUCKER

[Anonymous No.5140651]

>>5140643
Draw some mechas

[Anonymous No.5140653]

>>5140651
From imagination, that's impossible, from reference? Sure I guess, just let me finish this Roy Batty

[Anonymous No.5140660]

>>5140643
>>5140647
Just keep drawing, anyone that tells you to stop drawing is a hater and don't want you to make it.

[Anonymous No.5140674]

>>5140647
I wasn't serious anon :D I just wanted you to stop posting these shitty schizo-fueled posts, ruining threads left and right but apparently you don't plan on doing that anytime soon. Draw a 3/4 angle female head.

[Anonymous No.5140680]

>>5140660
No, I too, have limited time, not 4 years thankfully, but limited time, expiration date, 6 or 7 years give or take some months, if the comic can't be done there is no use in continuing.
>>5140674
No need to sugarcoat it, so far I agree with >>5140634

[Anonymous No.5140691]

You people are such sacks of shit.

[Anonymous No.5140692]

>>5140634
I agree, with the exception of >>5140557 , which looks soulful as fuck. Unironically one of the better looking posts ITT.

[Anonymous No.5140695]

So time, every day counts, every single hour and to waste my very limited time on something that shows no progress, this is no money, this is life, time.
>>5140557
That's not mine...

[Anonymous No.5140714]

im completely stumped, what the hell is line art.
Do I just go back to making thin and thick lines and applying it to basic and organic shapes?

[Anonymous No.5140731]

>>5140714
I can't for the life of me even draw basic arcs and circle segments. I feel like I'm doing what I'm supposed to with ghosting and fast strokes and the shoulder movement, but they always have a lot of flat or angular parts no matter what I fucking do. I can't even trace a curve accurately.

[Anonymous No.5140744]

>>5140691
?

[Anonymous No.5140755]

Figure I'll just do 1 page of each exercise for a few more days and then move on to week 2
This shit better be helping

[Anonymous No.5140763]

When drawing from a reference photo, my proportions are a bit off. Each element on it's own seems to be decent, but as a whole things seem off (for example, the figure's arm/hand looks ok, but when compared to the rest of the figure, it's too wide). I'm trying not to TUNNEL VISION on certain parts and look at the pose as a whole but I am really struggling with this. I've tried moving away, flipping, etc and can't seem to get past this. Any methods that worked for you guys?

[Anonymous No.5140764]

Elf ranger sketch. Going to ink it once I have some vellum

[Anonymous No.5140783]

>>5137308
What the fuck am I even doing?
The sticky suggests you go through Loomis before perspective, but I'm feeling like I've been dropped into the deep end having just come from picasso's igor stravinsky.

Should I just push through the confusion or go through perspective made easy before fun with a pencil?

[Anonymous No.5140789]

>>5140783
My advice would be to keep trying those Loomis ball heads, atleast for a bit. You're not gonna get it right away, but they're important for teaching construction and how to think in 3d space. If after a while you still can't get them, maybe try some Proko Loomis tutorials on Youtube, because it helps a lot to have a video reference on what you should be doing. I hope this helps.

[Anonymous No.5140792]

>>5140674
Done, second attempt since the first one and the mech were a failure, I'm sorry.
I drew this already defeated and I guess I'm done for
Ping Pong, there's honor in accepting defeat I guess
https://youtu.be/gZ_fVM3R0R4

[Anonymous No.5140801]

>>5140792
I fucked up even now, the mouth, lips were always my weakness
I'm done for

[Anonymous No.5140811]

>>5140789
Thanks for the advice, anon. I'll keep persevering and had a quick look for those tutorials, I can definitely see how it helps.

[Anonymous No.5140816]

Cheap gimmicks and tricks like shitty hatching can't save me, if the foundation is weak then it's never going to change, I'm once again, evidence talent is real by having none of it, I'm a bad omen, my very existence means that all artists will inevitably reach a point where they can no longer improve, it means that hard work and effort can only do so much if the talent is not present
I'm really deep this time huh

[Anonymous No.5140821]

I'm not even a bird, not even avian this time, I'm a cockroach, human shaped insect, I'm nothing. A bottom feeder, no talent whatsoever and for 5 months we tried yet something's missing, progress, soul, art, talent.
I wasn't born into talent for art, I'm a parasite seeking to consume, no wonder I can't gain skill, art itself rejects me, calls me out for the infection I am.

[Anonymous No.5140827]

>>5140634
What other hobby should I consider? I can't leave until someone updates that

[Anonymous No.5140844]

>>5140763
>>5140792
>>5140783
do bargue
https://archive.org/details/C.BargueDrawingCourse

[Anonymous No.5140855]

210

[Anonymous No.5140906]

>>5140731
donut fret, just keep it as daily practice and go do something else like figure drawing

[Anonymous No.5140907]

What are you up to?

[Anonymous No.5140910]

>>5140327
Thanks for the advice. I like the color of the brush I use but I guess I should use bolder lines. I'll look into the books you suggested

[Anonymous No.5140916]

>>5137308
working on it still

[Anonymous No.5140944]

It's a wip but how am I doing?

[Anonymous No.5140991]

>>5140844
This is essentially a guide to sight-size yes? Is the best/only method to accurately measure? I am familiar with this technique, I suppose I should practice it more.

[Anonymous No.5140998]

>>5140906
But I feel like I've internalized the wrong way of drawing curves. My brain is fucked and I somehow have to unlearn this habit. They're too straight and not gradual enough, no matter how I approach it.

[Anonymous No.5141001]

>>5140991
yes, its a good way to practice observing and simplifying

observation is the most important fundamental because it lets you see what's wrong with ur drawing as well as accurately break down the reference. this will make it easier to learn other fundamentals since you can actually see what you're supposed to do

[Anonymous No.5141019]

>>5140907
The mom.

[Anonymous No.5141021]

>>5141019
>>5140907
Booba

[Anonymous No.5141046]

I have legitimate fucking brain damage.

[Anonymous No.5141064]

>Spend first half of day grinding fundies
>Spend second half drawing 3 foot tall women with giant tits and ass.
*Sip*, yep. This is the life

[Anonymous No.5141068]

>>5140692
that's not his though, someone else posted it a few threads back.

[Anonymous No.5141069]

how do I know if I can graduate from /beg/?

[Anonymous No.5141072]

>>5140557
Don't listen to >>5140634 , this is actually rather nice.

[Anonymous No.5141074]

>>5141069

when you stop drawing weeb shit and embrace realism.

[Anonymous No.5141076]

>>5141068
Do you think I should quit drawing? Are they right?
>>5140792
>>5140674
Would you consider the test passed or nor?
>>5141072
THAT'S NOT MINE, THAT'S THE ISSUE

[Anonymous No.5141080]

>>5141074
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjXpEsSucJE

[Anonymous No.5141079]

>>5141072
Do you think I SHOULD QUIT OR not?
That drawing is not mine but before the day ends ILL MAKE SOMETHING LIKE IT

[Anonymous No.5141082]

>>5141069
when you give redlines and nobody says you are a dunning krugger or whatever it was spelled or nobody points out something wrong with it

[Anonymous No.5141084]

>>5141076
Are you actually having fun? Or are you just tearing yourself apart because you can't get over the fact that you're not excellent out of the gate? From the amount of crying you do here it sounds like you're making yourself miserable. That's no way to live anon.

[Anonymous No.5141088]

glad anon suggested the 30 days book a while ago.
might be retard-tier basics but i feel confident enough in my abilities to keep practicing and working through it :)

[Anonymous No.5141089]

>>5141076
Ah.. That is, err, unfortunate.. That the work isn't yours.. Nevermind me then, haha.
>>5141079
Well no, I don't think you should out-right quit unless you genuinely want to. Good luck on drawing a piece similar to it though, I look forward to seeing that, Anon.

[Anonymous No.5141092]

>>5141089
Forgot the gif.

[Anonymous No.5141093]

>>5141021
Sure are

[Anonymous No.5141100]

>>5141046
use pencil and paper first its easier
and draw from ur shoulder

[Anonymous No.5141119]

>>5141100
It is from the shoulder. On paper I still notice this problem to some extent. It's a habit that's stuck that I always rush curved lines so they're more straight, and I always begin circles incorrectly. Some of the Drawabox assignments have been literally impossible to complete because of this issue.

[Anonymous No.5141127]

>>5140407
So I'm good?

[Anonymous No.5141129]

>>5141093
Christ that leg is terrible. Bailing out.

[Anonymous No.5141142]

>>5140407
"By hand" though I practice digitally, too. I was planning to move to digital, full-time, once I use up all my traditional materials.

Drawing digital is so much more convenient, cheaper and faster that it's kind of guilt inducing. It just feels wrong.

[Anonymous No.5141159]

>>5141084
Course I do, I just can't deal with failure and now people are telling the I should better quit because I have no talent so of course I feel bad.
>>5141089
>>5141092
Help me, here, how to understand values,I well, other than now and some times, I really don't have experience with colors, at all.

[Anonymous No.5141162]

>>5141064
They are pretty cute and funny at the same time, lol

[Anonymous No.5141167]

>>5140821
Anon, is it you from the other /beg/ thread where you were posting your sketches and telling the same thing about poor progress in only 5 months.

[Anonymous No.5141169]

Can I post some shitty OC drawings?
>>5141167
That'd be me, yes.

[Anonymous No.5141172]

Posting progress on my last thingy

[Anonymous No.5141174]

>>5141172
Here’s the lineart, any though or advice is well received

[Anonymous No.5141178]

>>5140521
Folds are never wrong if your subject is fat enough. However, if she is supposed to be skinny, it shouldn't be visible from the front like that, only from the back.

[Anonymous No.5141179]

>>5141169
I’m the “nice” anon from that thread, it’s been now a couple of days with that stuff man, remember to relax and take your time

[Anonymous No.5141181]

>>5141179
Someone being nice to me? Now that's new, thanks anon, Bus talk and all but come on, there must be something wrong in me if I can't do something like this >>5140557
my attempts are >>5140556 disgusting, no talent, what is it anon? What's wrong with me?
>>5140639
>>5140634
>>5140692
>>5141072
They all loved that guy and his drawing (deserved, nice on, and it was his FIRST with watercolor) and told me to quit, there's something broken in me, I know it

[Anonymous No.5141189]

>>5141174
You could make the line art thicker in the darkest areas like below the neck to make things pop out more.

[Anonymous No.5141190]

>>5141181
stop comparing urself to others lol whats the point, there will always people that are better than you. just draw

[Anonymous No.5141191]

>>5141190
No, there is a degree of quality to be expected, I'm unable to reach it despite it not being that hard, if at 5 months someone was unable to swim, yeah, they'd tell him to fuck off from trying to be on a team.

[Anonymous No.5141197]

>>5141088
Based

[Anonymous No.5141198]

>>5141191
your problem is expecting to reach a certain level just because you've been working at it for 5 months. some people just learn slow and ur drawings are about what i would expect of someone drawing for 5 months
if you don't like slow progress then it is up to you to decide if it is worth drawing or not

and ur analogy is dumb because no one is putting u on a drawing team. its all for u to decide, either you want to keep drawing or you don't

[Mirai No.5141204]

>>5141198
So the average progress is slow? How is that even average then? I want more progress, I want it faster, not so nice now huh

[Anonymous No.5141206]

God dammit, I can't find any resources on how to just draw fucking curved lines. I've spent the past 3 god damn days just googling it and doing this nonstop over and over and over and over. Just let me fucking die.

[Miraihttps://youtu.be/zFkFLxXz(...) No.5141209]

>>5141198
Give me something to draw, another test, something to judge if I should keep at it or not?
GIVE ME SOMETHING I BEG YOU
the rei fucker tricked us and gave no feedback on the test so now we have no way to prove them wrong, so far theyre winning
>>5140639
>>5140634
>>5140692
>>5141072

[Anonymous No.5141236]

>>5137350
depends if your are the type of person who would use endless grinding to put off creating actual finished pieces or not

[Anonymous No.5141237]

>>5141198
GIVe me something fucker

[Anonymous No.5141242]

>>5141237
>>5138867
draw this

[Anonymous No.5141251]

>>5141162
Based

[Anonymous No.5141263]

>>5141242
almost done, cant into hair so not bothering with that

[Anonymous No.5141280]

I really want to learn to sketch like feng zhu. Is there anything I can do to improve? Please rip me to shreds if need be. I can also post more work.

[Anonymous No.5141282]

>>5138965
By trying to avoid the mistakes on this one I ended up making my own
>>5141242
>>5138867
I consider this to be a failure, version 1.0
Her head is doing a "dramatic turn and so the construction line for her eyes is doing a weird rollercoaster thing (you see it so im not going to explain) but I placed it too high at first so she looked caucasian ok we lower the eyes but now the space between them and the nose is off and that means that the negative shape between chin and shoulders is off
Hair, I cant do hair so an outline will have to do
Im sorry over this failure, give me something else, lack of detail because frankly it's not a good reference not a lot of things happening in her skin or well I cant either see them or try to represent them

[Anonymous No.5141284]

>>5141282
>>5141242
AHHHHH FUCKING IDIOT
I WAS TILTING MY HEAD SO I FORGOT THAT HER HEAD IS NOT THAT TILTED
I FUCKED UP
fuck i hate this primate body
I HATE IT
GIVE ME SOMETHING ELSE PLEASE my setup is weird so i have to tilt my head fuck i forgot

[Anonymous No.5141287]

Her head wasn't tilting I WAS
god I hate this primate body, this wouldnt be happening if I was avian in the flesh

[Anonymous No.5141289]

>>5141282
literally better than 90% of beg bruh

and spend more time you did it really fast. measure stuff out and check angles before drawing

[Anonymous No.5141292]

>>5141289
I'll do this one as well, just let me do a personal project real quick
I'm not going to disappoint though, this is a test after all, I won't forget the way my body is headed this time

[Anonymous No.5141307]

What happened tho schizo guy why do I think he’s the asukafag is that just me

[Anonymous No.5141320]

>>5141289
Energy levels decreasing, there's only so much I CAN do in a day
but if i can pull it off tomorrow oh youre going to like it

[Anonymous No.5141333]

Done for the night I hope MLK day tomorrow whoooooooooo but I have to work.

[Anonymous No.5141337]

>>5141064
gmi

[Anonymous No.5141362]

>>5141159
I never encouraged you to quit, I said you should only quit if you feel as if it's something you want to do.

[Anonymous No.5141365]

>>5141362
Oops, wrong thing. Meant for >>5141209

[Anonymous No.5141368]

>>5141362
I wish someone would encourage me to quit.

[Anonymous No.5141369]

>>5137308
I just had a brief moment where it felt like a ghost took over my body and drew better than me. I tried to recreate it and ended up finding a similar feeling when I focused on moving my pencil. Are you supposed to focus on your pencil while drawing?

[Anonymous No.5141370]

>>5141368
Well, quit wanting that to happen.

[Anonymous No.5141384]

>>5141370
I'm just fucking with you, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.5141386]

>>5141384
I guess.. You wanted me to 'quit' replying to you.

[Anonymous No.5141418]

drew the arm from the other thread, most fucked parts i think is the inconsistent line weight and shading, though this is my first attempt at shading so what more could i expect.

[Anonymous No.5141628]

HOW THE FUCK DOES ONE DRAW ANIME HEADS!? HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO MAKE A DORITTO CHIN LOOK LIKE A REAL HEAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.5141678]

doodle

[Anonymous No.5141682]

>>5141628
Stop smudging randomly for starters

[Anonymous No.5141689]

How can I make my portraits better?

[Anonymous No.5141901]

Is this worth moving forward with?

[Anonymous No.5141917]

>>5141901
finish all your pieces

[Anonymous No.5142038]

>>5138867
that piece missing from her ear is so aesthetic pleasing, was it done on purpose? or she just got "lucky"?

[Anonymous No.5142161]

The proportions are bothering me but I cant really pinpoint what it is. I think the upper arm might be too long for one thing but I'm not sure what else

[Anonymous No.5142167]

>>5142161
Legs too short, head too big.

[Anonymous No.5142232]

[Anonymous No.5142235]

>>5142232

[Anonymous No.5142238]

>>5142167
Thanks! Does this seem any better?

[Anonymous No.5142336]

Study from imagination, still can't figure out how to avoid plastic look

[Anonymous No.5142569]

So i open instagram once every 100 years and it's only to check out these nice drawings and for whatever reason instagram then recommends me a random ass guy that i will not mention because people here would bully the shit out of him it had the saddest below /beg/ tier drawings models and animations i have ever seen, since i speak the same language i was about to recommend him some books but i keep looking at his pics and he already had a physical copy of the animators survival guide had gone to art classes, has gone to conferences given by jim lee, then i try to understand what the fuck is going on and i see his selfies
>Oh well this guy looks old maybe he just doesn't have time for it
>holy fuck he is 24 like me and the motherfucker streams for hours on twitch

I guess some people just like to call themselves artist and i guess that's fine but it's really surprising seeing how people like this even exist i don't see a way to help him

[Anonymous No.5142645]

Is there a point to these "figure drawing in X seconds" exercises ? They just seem like an excuse to make people draw a ton of stuff.
not that practicing a lot is bad but is there any benefit in doing it in 30/60 seconds.

[Anonymous No.5142727]

New Thread:

>>5142721
>>5142721
>>5142721