Comm Price Check!

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Comm Price Check! Anonymous Fri Dec 4 23:09:09 2020 No.5042844 [Reply] [Original]

Commission Price Check thread!
Think you are ready to sell your art? Have no idea what to begin to price it?
Look no further! Post here and get prices on what /ic/anons would pay.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 4 23:11:05 2020 No.5042847 >>5042844 >op pic 2 dollars

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 4 23:16:06 2020 No.5042853 File: 1.11 MB, 1742x1405, FtxvY.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Quickly, before the tranny see's it and deletes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 4 23:19:02 2020 No.5042857 >>5042853 looks very stiff, and the proportions are off, but the shading is kind of nice, I would say no less than $ 30

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 4 23:19:39 2020 No.5042860 >>5042853 -Your legal fees from defending yourself in court

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 4 23:19:46 2020 No.5042862 File: 179 KB, 879x1280, IMG_20201203_035923_713.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 4 23:24:21 2020 No.5042869 >>5042862 bready good, definitely no less than $ 70

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 4 23:25:19 2020 No.5042870 >>5042853 You'd have to pay me for this dog shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 4 23:29:24 2020 No.5042875 File: 382 KB, 1000x1000, clowncol.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 4 23:30:39 2020 No.5042876 File: 1.34 MB, 1710x2500, Wilbell.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5042844 I know this isn't a usual /ic/ style but I don't know where to start

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 4 23:30:52 2020 No.5042877 >>5042875 Need to know the inspo

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 4 23:32:35 2020 No.5042882 >>5042877 some deviantart autist begging me to draw his kisekae OC in my DMs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 4 23:33:16 2020 No.5042884 >>5042869 Ty fren, I was thinking of charging 75$ for starters, just wanna get a more consistent style going before I can ask people to pay for it - don't wanna do bad business

Anonymous Fri Dec 4 23:52:16 2020 No.5042918

So i want to start taking coomer commissions on Pixiv, but as soon as i click the "accept request" prompt, I'm asked to set a transfer account.

Question, when i accept said request is the client able to see any of my paypal details? Maybe like "payment sent to (account name) or anything the like? I just don't want these commissions to be in any way traced back to me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 00:00:37 2020 No.5042924 >>5042918 Assume yes that they can. Using a business account and scouring your info helps, but it's never 100%.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 00:03:34 2020 No.5042930 >>5042853 unironically the only thing in here worth a cent

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 00:03:44 2020 No.5042931 >>5042918 Potentially yes, if you're infringing copyright you can be traced

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 00:39:23 2020 No.5042957 File: 2.28 MB, 4000x2759, JustForYouGuys.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Probably my most complex piece to date—but I def learned a lot from it

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 01:29:44 2020 No.5042997 >>5042957 Lazy nigger you couldve atleast texture the screen

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 03:59:15 2020 No.5043154
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>been around for a few of these thread now
>every time there's like maybe one reasonable attempt at a price estimate per thread
>the rest is just a few people posting art and everyone else crabstabbing and dodging questions
Once I'm no longer /beg/ I swear I'll come back and post good esitimates just to spite all of you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 06:53:54 2020 No.5043283 File: 1.46 MB, 986x621, holo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 07:20:45 2020 No.5043304 >>5043154 protip: you won't

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 07:22:40 2020 No.5043305 >>5043304 Protip: Jesus hold my whee Jesus: Yup

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 08:42:45 2020 No.5043389 File: 462 KB, 1024x1024, coms.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just started doing 10 usd coms

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 08:45:33 2020 No.5043390 >>5042862 >>5042875 >>5042876 >>5042957 >>5043283 >>5043389 My cousin can do a better drawing for 5$, i'll just pay you with some sushi or cigarettes, you get to choose

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 08:47:27 2020 No.5043391 >>5043390 can i get a bj?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 09:36:38 2020 No.5043443 File: 297 KB, 689x720, 1526360976514.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5043154 This is the crabbiest thread so far, I don't know why people are actively shitting so hard on everything this time. People are extra miserable this time around

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 09:46:27 2020 No.5043457 >>5042876 60 maybe, really cute but the lineart makes it feel unfinished.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 10:05:02 2020 No.5043482 >>5042844 Never, ever ask other artists to rate your shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 10:47:32 2020 No.5043525 >>5043482 I want people to rate my shit, noone seems to do so tho. Starting to feel like an idiot for posting on this threads. >>5043283

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 11:24:37 2020 No.5043569
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>>5043457
Thanks for the price! You are right. I want to keep a playful vibe to it and not smooth it out to the extent of losing some of that bounciness, I think I will draw it a lot larger and downsize it next time so then maybe it'll turn out a little smoother.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 11:29:30 2020 No.5043576

I've been selling coms for about a year at the 70-100 dollar range. I only really make that much because it's hardcore porn, and featuring two characters in each piece. I don't think my art is all that spectacular.

Anyways. Heres my serious attempt at pricing. Please don't take it that seriously because I'm not that good at judging, just want to try and help.

Remember the golden rule of hours x minimum wage to find a starting point for pricing. Adjust from there as needed based on demand / your free time.

>>5042862
70-75 is good at that level of work and doing pinups. I don't think there's a point in waiting to open coms if you have the bandwidth for them.

>>5042875
20-30

>>5042876
I also agree with 60

>>5042957
80 but may be hard to find a market

>>5043283
70-80 but hard to tell without seeing more of your stuff desu

>>5043389
10-15 is a good place to start

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 11:30:44 2020 No.5043577 >>5043525 ask yourself if you’d pay for that

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 12:16:48 2020 No.5043632 File: 489 KB, 1629x1300, mmr etch1300.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 12:18:02 2020 No.5043637 >>5042957 who cares for the price, nice work anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 12:39:43 2020 No.5043668 File: 78 KB, 1178x898, IC.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5042844

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 12:43:52 2020 No.5043673 >>5043632 same anon that didn’t like the eye blinders here, $50 uncoloured and unshaded seems reasonable

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 13:01:59 2020 No.5043701

>>5042862
60-80+ Props and accessories can be tedious work so I'd tack on extra to that. Would be nicer with better rendering consistency

>>5042876
50-70~ Depending on the complexity? Just a little extra shading to make shapes more defined could bump it up. Also more effort to the hands. I suppose it has more of a retro feel with black lineart, but I think coloring the inner lineart could expand your work's appeal. Maybe have it as an option?

>>5043283
50-60. Something about it feels stiff and the face is unappealing. With a better style I can see this going for double. I think this piece has a nice atmosphere so if you can refine that and the aforementioned aspects, you can get big dosh.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 13:21:31 2020 No.5043742 >>5043576 >>5043701 This is really useful, thanks >>5043577 It's really more about having perspective.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 13:37:13 2020 No.5043763 >>5043577 I agree with the idea here, but I would not pay for my own stuff because I don't think it's good enough, yet it's in fairly high demand since it's porn. So it depends on market demand too is what I'm trying to say I guess.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 15:08:15 2020 No.5043889

>>5042876
>everyone thinks this is $60
>>5043283
>and then say this is $60-80
>>5042862
>but this is only $70
Are people just so thirsty for anime they'll pay hand over fist for even the most basic drawings but everyone is frugal when it comes to effort?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 15:25:55 2020 No.5043918 File: 731 KB, 859x1291, hanacosplay.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I can't tell if I'm severely underpricing myself or if this thread just has overinflated estimates

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 15:57:47 2020 No.5043975 >>5043889 Are you saying the first one isn't worth as much? Because it has huge appeal and that's very valuable in driving a price point. Anime crowd is not small.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 16:04:35 2020 No.5043985 File: 379 KB, 1000x657, barb 4chan ver.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 16:34:14 2020 No.5044028 Reminder not to listen to anyone in these threads, because none of these RPing fuckers know the first thing about pricing. Buy Pricing and Ethical Guidelines and you'll never have to ask again.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 16:36:02 2020 No.5044031

>>5043975
not that anon but it seems strange how people are willing to pay more for >>5042876 than >>5043632
(this isn't to insult the artist who drew the witch by the way, it's a cute picture and with a little more refining I'd probably pay 30$ but not 60 - 70$)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 16:38:55 2020 No.5044038 >>5044028 It's probably full of false flagging fagets from /trash/ and its "art commissions" thread looking to neg inexperienced artists into working for pennies

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 16:44:46 2020 No.5044048

>>5044031
>>5043889
>>5043701
>>5043673
>>5043576
>>5043389
>>5042884
>>5042869
>>5042857
>>5042847
Stop fucking guessing, you brainlets. This isn't how pricing works.
Estimated hours worked (including time spent dealing with the client) * desired hourly wage (you should be charging no less than $20/hr for skilled labor) + material cost.
Licensing fees will typically be a percentage, and are dependent on what it is going to be used for and what kind of illustration it is.
"Me think this worth $30 because it isn't that good" is the most idiotic shit imaginable, cut this shit out immediately.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 16:46:16 2020 No.5044053

>>5043668
For something styled like the top left picture? $35 as a base, I would have to see how you handle faces and poses though before I even thought of commissioning you.
The log cabin is boring compared to the piece next to it and I wouldn't even think to commission you for something, it just feels like generic pixel art.
>>5043632
I'd actually probably pay something like $55 for this, very nice linework anon.
>>5043389
$10 seems alright, I hope you get some work so you can improve. The piece on the left is fine, and honestly if you can be consistently that good and improve on your perspective and shading I would double it to $20 perhaps.
>>5043918
This is fine, I'd pay maybe $30 for this. This clothing is really well done but Idk what is going on with the shading on the body on everything above the diaphragm. Also your hands need some serious work.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 16:47:15 2020 No.5044056 >>5044053 Shut up you know-nothing faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 16:49:22 2020 No.5044059 >>5044048 Well alright hot stuff, divine how long each picture took the artists and their desired hourly wage.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 16:50:28 2020 No.5044061 >>5044038 Could be. People's opinions on this topic are wildly skewed by 3rd worlder commision prices on twitter, combined with artists' naturally low confidence and aversion to doing basic fucking math.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 16:53:02 2020 No.5044067

>>5044048
You're not taking into account that there are other artists you have to compete with for pricing in the same bracket, and they'll do it for cheaper if they can and they'll poach work from you if you're not in their ballpark. Also It's hard to say a the labor of half these anons is "skilled," some of their time is a lot more valuable to me for obvious reasions.
Also this is all digital shit why would I even bother taking into account material cost lmao. Yeah the maybe $1.46 worth of electricity it took to run their computer and tablet. Why are you even taking about that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 16:53:38 2020 No.5044069 How do I know how much I spend on a drawing? The time blurs

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 16:54:23 2020 No.5044071

>>5044059
No, retard. The artists themselves know how long it takes to make an individual piece, they are the ones that should be setting their prices, instead of coming to a Filipino wood burning forum to ask /begs/ and Dunning-Krugers to appraise their art.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 16:54:52 2020 No.5044073 >ITT assmad faggots upset about being sub $100 for their shitty art

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 16:56:48 2020 No.5044077 >>5044071 >>5044048 t. someone who has never tried to do commissions in his life and has never commissioned someone. If only that is how it worked anon.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 16:57:48 2020 No.5044081

>>5044067
>You're not taking into account that there are other artists you have to compete with for pricing in the same bracket
You're not taking into account that are subjecting yourself and others to working for less than minimum wage out of a desire to compete with literal 3rd worlders.

>Also this is all digital shit why would I even bother taking into account material cost lmao
If the piece was all digital, then the material cost was $0 and the formula doesn't change, dipshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 16:59:17 2020 No.5044084 >>5044077 Buy Pricing and Ethical Guidelines. This is a matter of industry standards, which you know nothing about.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 17:04:42 2020 No.5044099

At the end of the day anyone with half a brain will just see the posts here as someone saying I or somebody else would pay this much for a normal private commission.
Then they can compare that with how much they want for commissions or what they've seen other artists charge. That's all.
>muh Pricing and Ethical Guidelines
>casual internet commissions
whew lad

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 17:06:46 2020 No.5044103
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For some reason, the lower your price range is, the more retarded and deranged are people who try to commission you. I've never had a single problem with people who pay 60+ USD compared to when I was insecure and charged 20USD for flat colored full body picture.
>demand things to be redone again and again
>can't speak basic English or communicate what they want
>demands refunds after half a year because "he's in a difficult situation"
>takes a month to pay the invoice
It's like every color of the shit rainbow.
Maybe the thing where people equate price with quality is real and they don't think you're worthy of basic respect if you charge too low. Don't do that even if you're a turbobeg.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 17:11:14 2020 No.5044114

>>5044099
How much someone who knows nothing about art pricing or comission prices is willing to pay, is worth even less than their preferred prices.

>casual internet commissions
Making art for someone else is a job. Do you want to work for less than minimum wage? Do you want to work for 3rd worlder wages? That book is printed specifically to prevent artists from undervaluing their work and labor. You faggots ITT are undermining the value of art and holding artists back. You don't know anything, your opinions aren't worth anything.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 17:14:37 2020 No.5044122

>>5044103
>For some reason, the lower your price range is, the more retarded and deranged are people who try to commission you
Of course. People that expect to commission personalized art for less than the price of a fucking videogame are stingy, self absorbed children. You're only hurting yourself by charging these absurdly low prices.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 17:14:55 2020 No.5044123 >>5044053 As a base? B-b-but pixel art doesent work like that Anon. Is more like sculpting desu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 17:16:37 2020 No.5044128 >>5044123 Ignore that retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 17:38:17 2020 No.5044178 >>5043985 I didn't even get a meme reply :[

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 17:40:30 2020 No.5044185

>>5044084
>This is a matter of industry standards, which you know nothing about
And something other competing artists know nothing about, either. Stay mad you're not getting any commissions because Cheng Li does almost the exact same thing you do but better, faster, and for less money.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 17:41:54 2020 No.5044189 >>5043985 The face is ugly as shit but you do have the technical skill. From the perspective of someone who has never purchased a commission and is unfamiliar with their pricing, I'd say around the 30-40$ range.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 17:46:02 2020 No.5044197 >>5044185 I would rather make $0 doing 0 work than spend hours working for less than minimum wage. Have some standards, you spineless pushover. If you want to compete with people that wipe their asses with their hands, then enjoy living like them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 17:49:42 2020 No.5044199 Is twitter analytics broken? I have an odd amount of profile views (10K+) but I'm nobody special.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 17:53:50 2020 No.5044207

>>5044185
>Stay mad you're not getting any commissions because Cheng Li does almost the exact same thing you do but better, faster, and for less money.
Bullshit. Even third-worlders above mediocre level charge normal prices as soon as they see themselves flooded with requests from cheapskates and realize they could be charging more. Why the fuck are you talking about something you have no idea about? Show me these wonderful cheap, reliable, and fast artists you insist are everywhere. Fucking dipshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 17:56:35 2020 No.5044217 >>5044207 I think >>5044038 had it right. These fucks are just trying to make artists charge less so they can get their furry inflation porn for cheaper.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 18:00:09 2020 No.5044225 >>5044207 >>5044217 So what would you say would be better prices for the art in this thread? If you know these are too low you must have an idea what they should charge instead.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 18:02:42 2020 No.5044233

>>5044197
You're going to be drawing anyways to try and make it to the point where your art is worth a decent amount, might as well make money while doing it
Commisisons are still valuable practice and help garner popularity which also increases the price you can charge due to demand.
>>5044207
Fiverr or Sketchmob, someone could cherrypick from dozens and dozens of artists on there.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 18:07:11 2020 No.5044241

>>5044225
Do the math, retard.

>>5044233
>You're going to be drawing anyways
I'm going to be drawing what I want. If I draw something I didn't want to draw, you can be damn sure I am going to be paid a reasonable amount for it, instead of scrambling for pennies like what you are advocating.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 18:09:41 2020 No.5044244 how do you approach work you arent sure to get it right?

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 18:20:26 2020 No.5044268

>>5044241
I mean I guess that works for you if you're really that autistic about what you're drawing. I have fun either way and I wouldn't take a commission I would absolutely hate doing.
You say scrambling for pennies like saying ~$75 for that isn't good money. If that took the artist four hours that's $18.75. If it took him longer than that it's on him he's making less money for his time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 18:21:29 2020 No.5044269 >>5044268 meant to quote this >>5042862

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 18:27:15 2020 No.5044282

>>5044268
>like saying ~$75 for that isn't good money
That depends entirely on HOW LONG it took you to make $75. Did it take literally an hour? Then that's great. Did it take 5 hours? I don't consider that acceptable, but at least it isn't below minimum wage. Did it take 10 hours? Then $75 is fucking awful.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 18:31:31 2020 No.5044289

>>5044282
Skill isn't just your ability to do something, it's how fast you can do it, too. A skilled artist could probably make something like that in a reasonable amount of time (3-4 hours) and should earn more for their skill. If you take 10 hours to make something of $75 quality then that's on you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 18:38:50 2020 No.5044309 >>5044289 Yes, and? Are you illiterate or something? As I've said, the individual artist sets his prices based on how long it takes him to do the work.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 18:44:01 2020 No.5044324 >>5044282 It took me like 6 hours total, but 11$/h is still 4x above minimal wage in my country T. guy who drew that piece and is a "dirty thirld worlder" kek

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 18:49:10 2020 No.5044333

>>5044309
If it takes an artist 10 hours to do that work and if they charge the same rate as the artist who took five hours ($15) that work is suddenly worth $150 by your rules. They could set that level of work at that price but who in their right mind is going to pay that? No offense to the artist but for $150 I could get something even better.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 18:59:19 2020 No.5044347

>>5044324
>11$/h is still 4x above minimal wage in my country
Okay, but consider that your clientelle is not from your country and your clientelle does not have your same minimum wage. When you sell commissions online in English, your clientelle will primarily be American and European. The minimum wage in the US is $7.25/hr, and in the UK it's around £8/hr.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 19:04:42 2020 No.5044363

>>5044333
>that work is suddenly worth $150 by your rules
No you fucking mongoloid, the TIME is worth $150.
Do you understand the concept of minimum wage? In the US, the minimum wage is $7.25/hr. This means that any worker's time is worth $7.25/hr at minimum, do you understand?
Even if you have an incompetent, lazy, unreliable person, his TIME is still worth at least $7.25/hr. If you have such a poor worker, you don't pay them less than $7.25/hr, you just don't fucking hire them. If an artist is charging too much for their work because it takes them too long to make it, the that artist will not be HIRED to do that work. It doesn't mean that artist should charge less, it means that artist should GET BETTER.

Do you comprehend yet?
Probably not.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 19:12:53 2020 No.5044378

>>5044347
I don't get your point about "muh value of labor" when talking about globalized free market, chinks don't get 3000$ salaries in sweatshops, they'll still bankrupt competition overseas and make a living.
If your living costs are 10x higher than mine your only option is to provide better quality service than I ever could so I can't even compete (maybe you do, maybe you don't, I don't think you have actually posted anything other than book recommendations)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 19:13:01 2020 No.5044379 >>5044128 Hard to ignore a retarded when he is the only one who replied to you :/ .

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 19:16:02 2020 No.5044387 >>5044378 >"muh value of labor" Fucking kill yourself, holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 19:26:58 2020 No.5044402 File: 68 KB, 750x545, detroitlol.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5044387 Sick argument, keep that mindset up as they outsource everything kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 19:55:27 2020 No.5044455 >>5044402 Kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 21:02:22 2020 No.5044605 >>5044363 This is the most retarded, cow shit argument I've ever seen on /ic/ Are you the Nagatoro poster?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 21:04:34 2020 No.5044608 >>5044455 we all know you'll go first, tranny

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 21:04:47 2020 No.5044609 >>5044605 The fuck is a nagataro? Time is money, it's as simple as that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 21:07:06 2020 No.5044616 >>5044608 >tranny That's rich coming from a bootlicker that's advocating for subhuman wages.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 5 21:14:24 2020 No.5044633 Dudes, is sketchmob worth it? Or should I develop my own audience and patron from twitter and deviant art?

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Anonymous Sat Dec 5 21:52:45 2020 No.5044698
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>>5043576
Thank you for the price!
>>5043701
Yeah the hands I gave up on, the rest of the features were intentional because I wanted it to look easily readable from distance, I will work on cleaner lineart faster! I just wanted something cute and expressive that I could push out at a good rate and have fun doing at the same time. Retro and fun is definitely the vibe I am going for.
>>5044031
Different strokes for different folks! Thanks for your input regardless. I can actually draw much more complex art than this but I think sometimes proper stylization can be a valuable asset of it's own so that's why sometimes simpler styles can still be worth a lot. The appeal can be worth more than details would have been on a more complex drawing because it takes knowledge to pull off properly.

Anonymous Sat Dec 5 22:11:09 2020 No.5044721

>>5042862
$80
>>5042875
For a whole scene like that I could see $45
>>5042957
This is really cool! I have no idea how to price something like this though. Maybe post again with a character, it could be hard to find a market for work like the one you posted.
>>5043283
It is really hard to tell, because it depends on how well you can draw clothes and different environments.
I could see $75 for this as is.
>>5043389
$10 to $15
>>5043632
Pretty fucking cool, $50ish. Your lines are amazing
>>5043668
This is difficult to price, there are too many variables with no focus or clear skillset, sorry. The stream offline looks really nice and I could see $30 or $35 for it
>>5043918
With some more focus on appeal/silhouette I could see you raking in a lot! I think 45-$50 as-is but with better faces and tweaking a couple fundamentals you are lacking you could seriously jump up to double/even triple. Ganbare anon
>>5043985
Maybe $45/$55 for a half and bust with BG like this

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 00:18:01 2020 No.5044890 >>5044721 Shut up retard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 04:17:17 2020 No.5045205 File: 3.21 MB, 2381x1200, comsheet.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] need money to afford gifts for christmas but I'm stuck on pricing. how bad of an idea is it to put up a kofi link and let people pay what they want?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 04:45:42 2020 No.5045224 >>5043283 >>5042876 These look traced

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 08:08:33 2020 No.5045394 File: 2.46 MB, 1660x1644, banana small.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Looking into doing commissions again, always have a hard time pricing myself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 08:11:59 2020 No.5045397 File: 358 KB, 1000x657, barbarian girls.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5044189 The dude asked for her to be ugly, on my first draft she was prettier. >>5044721 :o really, you think so?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 08:21:07 2020 No.5045404 File: 2.15 MB, 3300x2400, dominus.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Honest thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 10:20:27 2020 No.5045607 File: 1011 KB, 1107x1491, 204.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Got $200 for this oil portrait commission, should I have gotten more?

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 10:28:49 2020 No.5045623

>>5045607
Oil is expensive and valued, but what would increase the value (and in my opinion, beauty) would be to add a simple background. A chair where the man sat, or a door or a suggested room would make the face pop up and give the whole portrait depth.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 10:31:36 2020 No.5045626 >>5045623 He specifically requested a simpler textured background, he already likes the painting and is going to pay for it

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 10:45:06 2020 No.5045660
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what should I focus on to get commission ready, besides rendering, anatomy and actually finishing/refining? the Marie in the witch outfit took me about 3 hours but I'm not sure it's worth £30/$40

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 11:40:20 2020 No.5045767 >>5045660 Focus on smooth long lines and make an appealing color palette to stick with. Also the faces are really inconstant and very too much from picture to picture so try to settle on a facial style you think looks good.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 12:24:06 2020 No.5045812 >>5045767 Thank you, I think the different faces come from trying to copy so many different artstyles from /aco/ requests, I need to develop my own style more. Wdym a color palette to stick with, wouldn't it depend on the girl/scene you're drawing?

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 12:33:07 2020 No.5045832
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a friend told me to increase m prices, other friend told me to decrease it, so I'm searching for more opinions.
I have almost no demand since I have few followers.
+50% for additional characters.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 12:34:48 2020 No.5045839 File: 349 KB, 935x856, Capturedd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5042844

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 12:35:04 2020 No.5045840

>>5045812
Basically with the color palette, it depends on the girl you are drawing but it seems like your colors and values vary a lot and some of them are dull and do not "pop" enough or are saturated in weird way.
I used to have to same problem, I am awful at picking colors from the wheel that look good, so I picked colors (skin tones, hair colors, etc) from different pictures I like and arranged them into a palette. Now I pick from those and it makes a significant difference and each picture has the proper colors with no looking back later and being like "Oh this looks really dull" or "Oh... I really oversaturated that"

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 12:39:42 2020 No.5045848 File: 54 KB, 540x1080, IMG-20201206-WA0001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 12:43:29 2020 No.5045856 File: 131 KB, 2048x1639, Warriorhorns.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 12:50:17 2020 No.5045872 >>5045840 Alright I think I got you, I'm definitely rushing my colour choices and they're not well informed cause I haven't studied any theory yet, I should be focusing on value first and then I'll delve into colour theory

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 15:03:36 2020 No.5046130 >>5045832 Bottom drawing, left hand thumb should be on the other side of the hand or am I crazy?

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 15:12:58 2020 No.5046145
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>>5045832
>Charging more for "rendered" by simply applying a different color pallet of the same value
I have figured out why most of you can't get commissioned worth for shit. You're all the same entitled catty bitches that believe they deserve $15 an hour for standing around doing nothing. Word of advice - stop nickle and dimming consumers to death it is a huge turn off and if you're going to be a Jew put a set price for a completed piece and none of this "flat" and "sketch" horseshit and if someone asks for a flat or sketch charge full price and let them fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 15:22:14 2020 No.5046165 >>5046145 best part are him plastering watermarks everywhere on his own commission chart like someone’s going to take it a slap their name on it lmao

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 15:35:45 2020 No.5046188

>>5046130
oh that's true, thank you for pointing, I'll fix it

>>5046145
I already saw people charging way more for way messier stuff and they still did get comissioned, this is not the problem. I also think selling completed stuff only would be better and also try to make them still look more completed even if it's an "sketch", but this model is popular so I'm going for it.

>>5046165
it's mostly because of the chance of this being reposted anywhere desu

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 15:39:57 2020 No.5046193
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>>5046130
You're right
>>5045856
This has to be said, what is up with her bottom? No ass at all,and then big thighs all of the sudden.

Even if the red on dark is for an effect, it makes the picture hard to read or look at. Fill the inside of the lineart with a slightly lighter value to make it stand out and be easier to look at.
Also important for pricing, will non-demon girl commissions be bright lights on darkness too? Or will they be on a lighter background like most pictures are?

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 15:53:13 2020 No.5046205

>>5046145
>You're all the same entitled catty bitches that believe they deserve $15 an hour for standing around doing nothing
>stop nickle and dimming consumers
If it takes anon an extra hour to shade that way and people are willing to pay it, then it is worth more money. Drawing and shading is not "doing nothing" and if there is a demand for it then people making art should be compensated for their time, simple as that.
>>5045832
I think these prices seem pretty fair, I think the rendered sketch is worth maybe $40 though and not $45.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 15:56:47 2020 No.5046211 >>5045832 Prices are fine. Just focus on building your base for now. Can't get commissioned if no one knows you exist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 15:58:15 2020 No.5046215 >>5042844 >third world pricing gj /ic/, good fucking job in further reinforce third world prices as the standard, i hope these sub 200$ never reach my niche

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:00:13 2020 No.5046218
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>>5042844
Oil on wood panel. I forget the size of them, the taller ones are maybe 14" tall or something like that. Not sure if I would sell them together or separately

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:00:54 2020 No.5046219 >>5046218 I don't understand

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:02:04 2020 No.5046222

>>5046215
It's called competition and by default competition drives prices down. It also drives innovation to compete for the consumers, instead of pissing and moaning why don't you carve out another niche before Chang floods your current one it is inevitable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:04:00 2020 No.5046227 >>5046222 >It also drives innovation to compete for the consumers digital artists literally fighting for crumbs

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:06:58 2020 No.5046235
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>>5046215
Price some things "fairly" then.
Also
>saying the prices here are 3rd world rates and are not high enough
>literally also saying in the same sentence that nothing here is worth $200

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:14:59 2020 No.5046255 File: 1.41 MB, 1386x701, comsheetpriced2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:16:06 2020 No.5046258 >>5046255 Half the price and you'll be good for the last one, 1/4 for the rest

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:18:57 2020 No.5046276 >>5046255 $45 is a fair offer but everything turned to shit at that $75 mark. Those highlights add too much noise to the image that that "shading" doesn't compliment her one bit the flat version is superior.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:19:07 2020 No.5046277 >>5046235 Your reading comprehension is awful.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:21:46 2020 No.5046283 >>5046222 >work for below minimum wage, goyim, it's just healthy competition :^)

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:21:52 2020 No.5046285 >>5046277 It is not my reading comprehension, say that sentence I was replying to out loud in full and tell me it doesn't sound like someone with dementia is talking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:23:12 2020 No.5046288 >>5046285 >has dementia without knowing it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:23:46 2020 No.5046293 what quality is the sketch usualy in your sheet?

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:24:01 2020 No.5046294

I don't do commissions so I'll just say the most I'd pay some of you for something

>>5045832
$45 (You pretty much nailed it)
>>5046218
$30
>>5043985
$20
>>5043918
$25 (pretty derivative, could get this elsewhere very easily you need to differentiate yourself)
>>5042957
$175 (just to see what you're capable of, you're clearly ambitious I think there's a lot of people that would give you a shot at something. I'd keep doing a bunch of different personal work to build your portfolio until commissions start hitting)

>>5042862
$30

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:25:18 2020 No.5046296 >>5046294 >t. poorfag

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:26:06 2020 No.5046301 File: 57 KB, 590x350, Burnt toast.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5046288 >good fucking job in further reinforce third world prices as the standard >i hope these sub 200$ never reach my niche

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:27:23 2020 No.5046306 >>5046301 I got the message just fine

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:28:07 2020 No.5046309 >>5046294 >30$ that wouldn't even cover cost of materials

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:29:36 2020 No.5046317 >>5046218 These are cute, maybe offer them for $60 each or $150 as a set

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:30:38 2020 No.5046319 >>5046193 Thanks for the comm price check

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:31:39 2020 No.5046324 >>5046219 I bought I real fish and and set it up on a table like he is waiting for dinner. No special meaning behind it. My appartment smelt disgusting whole I worked on it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:31:40 2020 No.5046323 >>5046285 It is your reading comprehension. You interpreted the content of the post incorrectly, thus you have poor reading comprehension. That poster did not imply that work here was not worth $200.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:33:53 2020 No.5046333 >>5046285 >>5046301 samefag

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:34:54 2020 No.5046336
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>>5046319
I have proced several other things in this thread and said I would price if you gave me more info on what non-demon comms would look like.

I'm the only person who even gave your art a second look and offered to help price it.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:35:03 2020 No.5046337

Reminder that the retard 'appraising' everyone's work ITT advocates working for below minimum wage and doesn't believe in the value of labor.
Reminder that this is the type of greedy scumbag you are asking advice of.
Reminder that he is not even an artist himself, and just wants to drive down the cost of commissions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:35:30 2020 No.5046340 >>5046309 >that wouldn't even cover cost of materials I meant $90 for all three, $30 each

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:36:49 2020 No.5046342 >>5046333 Obviously.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:37:27 2020 No.5046345 >>5046337 >doesn't believe in the value of labor. I'm >>5046294 I believe in the value of labor, but some labor is more valuable than others. If you don't like it get better

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:37:39 2020 No.5046348 >>5046333 I didn't imply I was a different person in either of those

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:37:41 2020 No.5046350 >>5043668 No less than $35

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:38:39 2020 No.5046355

>>5046309
anon, you painted fish laying on plates
who exactly are you going to sell these to and for how much?
you’re expecting not one, but three of these to sell
genuinely what was going through your head when you started the last one?
who are these for?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:39:39 2020 No.5046358 >>5046337 Let the retards sell their work for below minimum wage, it's always nice seeing a new thread about how they were dumb when starting commission working after they discover someone worse than them selling for higher

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:40:42 2020 No.5046361 >>5046355 the good old lady boomers

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:41:37 2020 No.5046365

>>5046340
Hey retard, answer this: what are you basing your prices on? You say it's what you would pay, but who the fuck are you?
Why should anyone care what you are willing to pay for anything? You clearly don't have the budget for commission in general, so your opinions are worth less than the chump change you're willing to spend.
Fuck off, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:41:42 2020 No.5046366 >>5046336 Sorry. Comms would be whatever the client wants, that demon girl is a good representation of my skill level though.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:42:19 2020 No.5046368

>>5046355
people buy still lifes all the time, there's a market for his paintings they just wouldn't sell for more than $40 each. I've seen paintings of that quality sell, people value traditional art. Don't get discouraged fish painter, just be careful about spending so much on what you're painting, you can sell a painting of an apple just as well as a painting of a brick of gold.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:43:24 2020 No.5046371 >>5046345 And no labor is worth less than minimum wage, especially not skilled labor for a luxury commodity. Kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:44:27 2020 No.5046373 >>5046368 wait, is it still life? it looks like live fish sitting on plates like they’re at dinner like, they’re upright and only their heads are on the plates, I thought it was supposed to be funny

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:45:13 2020 No.5046374

>>5046365
>but who the fuck are you?
this guy
>>5045607
you need to fucking chill, I'm just saying what I would pay for them, not what you'd potentially get for them, put any price you want on them i dont give a fuck, I sell paintings for $35 sometimes and money's money. But sure go ahead charge $300 for each of them, who the fuck knows, maybe you'll get it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:45:48 2020 No.5046375 >>5046373 these are the people pricing your art, wake up /ic/

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:47:30 2020 No.5046380 File: 1.20 MB, 750x979, 1607232753663.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why do you guys use this shit ass thread that's constantly made It never ends well

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:48:07 2020 No.5046383 File: 310 KB, 1323x1600, 1595332725490.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >find IT fren >ask art price he pay >profit from rich frenz

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:48:11 2020 No.5046384 >>5046340 Still wouldn't make much off that, oil paints and wood panels are expensive

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:49:07 2020 No.5046389 >>5046374 Oh you're Brian? Well double kill yourself then, you chode.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:49:19 2020 No.5046391

>>5046371
>especially not skilled labor for a luxury commodity.
>implying there's that much skill in this thread
internships don't pay either, if we started every artist at minimum wage then anyone who spends a month practicing would be making $45 an hour. That's not how the real world works, just because some people are making art doesn't mean the rest of the world has "hired them" to be an artist yet, and they shouldn't even be making minimum wage yet. But keep with your communist vision of eliminating merit based economies so you can make $30k a year just for farting in your bed at night

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:50:24 2020 No.5046393 >>5046391 do you get paid 45$ after a month working at mcdonalds? where is it because i'm going there right now

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:50:44 2020 No.5046394 >>5046380 Especially now that we have actual cumfarti 'appraising' people. What a fucking shitshow.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:50:45 2020 No.5046395 >>5046373 >still life >something funny it is whatever you want it to be my dude

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:50:47 2020 No.5046397

>>5046371
>And no labor is worth less than minimum wage
What if it takes me 4 hours to do what is 1 hour of work?
If I am to move 4 bags of cement and it takes me 1 hour to do it because I’m out of shape and keep losing breath, is that worth minimum wage?
Or if I take 4 times as long to make a cup of coffee because I have feet for hands, is that worth minimum wage?
Now translate that to art, if I am slow and inefficient and it takes me 10 hours to make a 3 hour piece, does that mean my work is worth 3 times that of an efficient artist?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:50:49 2020 No.5046398 >>5046366 I think you can do 20-$30. Like I said I just think for bright on dark that a slight differentiating value would help a lot. You could do $35 for fullbodies at your current level too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:52:12 2020 No.5046401 >>5046391 >That's not how the real world works Says the balding, jobless manchild living with his parents. Kill yourself, Brian.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:52:40 2020 No.5046403

>>5046389
>getting this defensive because you spent $40 on a whole ass fish to paint
rookie mistake desu, been there done that, ask me how much I sold the paintings for that I bought $70 worth of nice flowers for from the higher quality nursery

(hint: nothing)

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:52:58 2020 No.5046405 >>5046205 I think I'll keep as 40$ yeah >>5046211 that's what I'll be doing, thank you >>5046294 thank you too anon, this helps

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:53:41 2020 No.5046407 >>5046355 I've sold commissions that size for 80$, it's all about the connection you have with people my friend. These fishies were initially for a school assignment, so you could say I painted them for myself, they were pretty fun to paint.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:54:42 2020 No.5046410 >>5046317 Thanks anon, that sounds fair

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:54:53 2020 No.5046412 >>5046401 >Says the balding, jobless manchild living with his parents that made $30k on art in 6 months so far this year ftfy

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:55:04 2020 No.5046413

>>5046397
What does "minimum" mean, you illiterate faggot?
If someone is a bad worker, it means they don't get hired, it does not mean they get hired for less than minimum wage. If you are charging fair rates and not getting work, it means you need to improve, not lower your rates.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:55:12 2020 No.5046414
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>>5046398
Thanks for the feedback. That demon girl was just a study of a pose I was doing. I liked the way the silhouette looked in red against a dark background so i just kept going with it. Came out pretty neat, imo.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:55:20 2020 No.5046415 File: 50 KB, 780x438, ozi0mphxCr1tq8e2bo1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ignored again

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:55:22 2020 No.5046416 Welp I've learned nothing from this thread, guess I'll have to figure it out myself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:56:05 2020 No.5046417 >>5046412 >>5046403 Kill yourself, Cumfarti.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:56:19 2020 No.5046418 >>5046413 >If someone is a bad worker, it means they don't get hired if only there was a way to fire artists other than them killing themselves

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:56:22 2020 No.5046419 >>5046415 Same :(

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:58:23 2020 No.5046425 >>5046403 Just clarifying that I'm (the fish artist) is not the one being mouthy about what you would pay

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:58:32 2020 No.5046426

>>5046416
Buy 'Pricing and Ethical Guidelines' and then do the math yourself.
No one that prices people in these threads has a fucking clue about how pricing works, and what's worse there are several people that are actively trying to undermine the success of artists.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:59:31 2020 No.5046430

Just a reminder that I'm a beg/int who traces old art and sell commission for $80 per character, clients know about the tracing. All I do is change the face, hair and clothes when necessary, the coloring is cel shaded in the anime style as in the TV, so it's very simple. And I get on average 2 commissions per week. So, you undersell your work because you want to, not because you need to do it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 16:59:54 2020 No.5046433 >>5046425 oh my little monkey emoji didn't show up

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:00:06 2020 No.5046435 >>5044048 Are you communist, anon? Do you subscribe to the labour theory of value? Because what you described goes against the free market, you want people to pay you according to your efforts and not acocrding to the whatever price they consider just.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:01:46 2020 No.5046437

>>5046418
There is, you retard. When you do commission, you do 50% upfront, and 50% on delivery. If the client is not happy with the work when he sees a progress shot, he can back out. What's more, anyone can see your past work as an artist and decide whether or not they want to hire you in the first place. In what world do you think clients just pick an artist at random without knowing anything about what they can do?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:01:59 2020 No.5046438 >>5046435 Union goes against free market, smart people who values their work also go against it

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:02:28 2020 No.5046439

>>5046425
like I said it's just what I'd pay for THOSE paintings, you could be sitting on paintings that would sell for more just because they're painted better or larger, I'd say the fish on the bottom right I'd pay more for compared to the other two, that's clearly the winner of the group. I think stylistically they're nice, you get good dry paint texture on it and that's a very sellable style. You could easily do larger works in the range of $400-$800, but it's important to reach a level of productivity where you can rapidly produce quality work to sell in the $100-$300 range since that's generally what people are willing to spend on art online (galleries are different)

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:02:38 2020 No.5046440

>>5046413
>If someone is a bad worker, it means they don't get hired
exactly, you dumb nigger
if you’re a bad worker and take too long, you can’t expect to charge an hourly rate resulting in a much higher price than the competition and have people pay you
that was the fucking point

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:03:56 2020 No.5046441 >>5046435 >the guy advocating to work for pennies like a chink asks if someone ELSE is a communist You are a blight, kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:04:13 2020 No.5046443 >>5046440 If he is not working, he is not getting paid, so they can't get paid below minimum wage for working. People in here is working for below the m. wage

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:04:37 2020 No.5046445 >>5046438 >smart people who values their work also go against it those same smart people are currently living in capitalism and making the same they'd make otherwise, but lazy people sure would benefit from your future. smart =/= rich

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:05:23 2020 No.5046446 >>5046350 Thank God not everybody looks down uppon this medium and can tell it doesent take only 1 hour for something like that :') , thanks Anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:05:57 2020 No.5046448 >>5046445 Book smart is only a fraction of being smart

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:06:21 2020 No.5046450 >>5046440 >exactly, you dumb nigger >proceeds to completely miss the point of that statement Slit your wrists and spray it on a canvas, maybe then your life will have value.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:07:51 2020 No.5046456 >>5046446 If it takes more than an hour, then why the fuck would you be happy with $35?

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:08:04 2020 No.5046459

>>5046443
>People in here is working for below the m. wage
People in here also don't work 40/hr per week on their art or art business. Even if they made minimum wage they'd make at most $300 a month just based on workload.

See you think you're arguing on behalf of people in this thread who want commission pricing, but you're actively making this thread a huge fucking bummer with your grandstanding about how much artists should be paid. We all know art is a shitshow as a job, stop reminding us. Your fantasies are hurting not helping.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:08:12 2020 No.5046460 the retard debate got me wondering, what would a communist artist even advocate here? siezing paint and cintiqs? art belonging to the people?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:09:09 2020 No.5046461 File: 100 KB, 728x512, 1605061200903.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >everything here should be around 10$ to 15$ huehuehuehuehuehue

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:10:04 2020 No.5046464 >>5046460 >what would a communist artist even advocate here? the artists that lived in the soviet union sure didn't enjoy it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:10:43 2020 No.5046466 >>5046459 x$/hour

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:10:54 2020 No.5046467 >>5046441 I am socdem, a chinaboo and China is not communist, I also have a feeling I am talking to an American whose knowledge of economics and politics doesn't excel that of a middle schooler.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:12:15 2020 No.5046471 >>5046464 [citation needed] arts were heavily subsidised and half the artists who lived from their art would have been flipping vodka at mcdmitri’s

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:12:20 2020 No.5046472

>>5046459
So your rationale is that since artists don't usually get enough work to make a decent amount monthly, that they should charge even LESS?
And saying that artists should have standards is 'grandstanding'?
If you want to be an insecure faggot with no self worth or self respect, then leave everyone else out of it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:13:42 2020 No.5046475 >>5046459 >>5046466 x$ / hour = minimum wage

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:14:09 2020 No.5046476
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left is a commission I did for 60$ and it is the highest I've done for a single pic (I've done comms for as high 150$ but it was several versions of the same drawing, like clothes on/off etc)
But I paused advertising for comms to build skill and popularity

right is my most recent work
I hope one day I will be allowed to earn 600$ a month

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:15:20 2020 No.5046478 >>5046476 chink's btfo now

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:15:41 2020 No.5046479
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>>5046467
>I am socdem, a chinaboo
>I am socdem, a chinaboo
>I am socdem, a chinaboo
>I am socdem, a chinaboo
>I am socdem, a chinaboo

THIS IS THE TYPE OF PERSON YOU ARE GETTING APPRAISAL FROM
Remember this before you ever ask /ic/ for pricing advice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:16:50 2020 No.5046480 >>5046476 Asukafag, $600/month is a pittance. Improve and aim higher.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:20:02 2020 No.5046487
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>>5046464
>roll into berlin, kill g*rmans and rape their women
>dab on g*rms for all eternity with a fuckhueg statue
I don’t know, sounds pretty comfy

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:29:20 2020 No.5046508

>>5045839
at least 60$, all you need is to make background less boring, you can even use flat simple but interesting shapes

>>5045404
you need to study more or else it will be really hard finding someone willing to pay for your work

>>5045394
with some clean up, 15$ for each panel if the dialogue is already written, if you need to come up with the story then double the price

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:30:25 2020 No.5046514 >>5046508 Kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:31:16 2020 No.5046518 >>5046514 Why schizo?

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:33:07 2020 No.5046522
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>>5044363
I read this entire post chain while imagining a crying wojak in a hovel with no money because nobody would pay their exorbitant prices. First rule of economics is that everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it, keep fucking seething though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:38:20 2020 No.5046530 File: 461 KB, 1280x853, 1578826404660.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5046522 relevant pic, just dont be a retard and get the lonely rich people's attention to ur art

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:39:36 2020 No.5046534 >>5046530 he can't keep getting away with this..

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:40:22 2020 No.5046536 >>5046530 >just dont be a retard and get the lonely rich people's attention to ur art guaranteed the people paying that guy for commissions can't actually afford it, they just REALLY NEED TO COOM

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:41:40 2020 No.5046538 >>5046530 >7500 The fuck? That can't be real.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:43:00 2020 No.5046543 >>5046536 >>5046538 retarded newfags

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:43:46 2020 No.5046544 >>5046538 https://www.furaffinity.net/view/33620356/ warning furry sites, warning done. no bannerino pizzarino jannies

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:53:01 2020 No.5046568 >>5046476 Did you get worse

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 17:56:50 2020 No.5046579 >>5046568 more like his skill fluctuate depending on the material he is working on. tight clothes good, loose drapery bad, skin getting better

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 18:03:59 2020 No.5046600 >>5046522 >I am socdem, a chinaboo

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 18:05:07 2020 No.5046602 >>5046518 Because you don't know shit about art, pricing, or money in general. Your presence in this thread is an active hindrance.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 18:09:43 2020 No.5046610
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>>5046337
Unlike the rest of you faggots, he didn't shit on my piece and actually gave a critique along with a value range. The problem here is that you're all a bunch of spoiled rotten brats.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 18:18:59 2020 No.5046637 >>5045832 b-blog?

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 18:20:36 2020 No.5046640

>>5046610
His value range was meaningless crabbing and he wants you to work for less than minimum wage. If you want a critique, post in a thread for critique. If you want to know how to price your work, do the math. If you want to get tricked into working for pennies, then keep asking people in these threads how to price your work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 18:24:02 2020 No.5046649 >>5046640 >If you want to get tricked into working for pennies nobody is tricking you anon, did someone say your work wasn't worth much or are you just naturally paranoid schizophrenic

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 18:26:06 2020 No.5046654 >>5046649 1. I would never post my work in one of these threads, because I am not a gullible retard who doesn't know how wages work. 2. Yes, you are tricking the anons in this thread into charging far less than their work is worth.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 18:27:29 2020 No.5046658 File: 338 KB, 500x453, 16fbe71bd3125a3d9fa6c56c24ceabcd88330ed5_hq.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5046610 >>5046640 Slow anon coming through, which person who priced a bunch of stuff are you both referring to?

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 18:32:25 2020 No.5046668

>>5046658
It's irrelevant, because every single one of them is wrong.
Not a single person that has priced work ITT has listed a price that is even close to reasonable.
What's more, the very premise of the thread is flawed, because you don't sell the WORK, you sell the labor, so pricing the work is meaningless.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 18:37:17 2020 No.5046683 >>5046640 But I do post in the critique threads every now and then and this is one of the very few times I get a legitimate and honest critique before it got deleted along with the shit talking you little pricks always spew out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 18:39:17 2020 No.5046691 >>5046683 Stockholm syndrome retard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 18:41:58 2020 No.5046699 >>5046691 No, it's not considering every other post except his didn't offer any value. Just admit you're experiencing buttpain because you know he is right.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 18:50:19 2020 No.5046713 >>5046699 >you know he is right. He's right that you should make less than minimum wage?

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:17:59 2020 No.5046776

>>5046713
If a doodle that you invested five minutes in merits the $30 to the consumer that's $360 an hour if you manage to dish out 12 other doodles within the hour. It's not the consumer's fault if you spend over a day on a single piece. What exactly is the problem here?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:19:30 2020 No.5046781 >>5046193 ass looks good m8

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:25:55 2020 No.5046789

>>5046776
>five minutes
You go ahead and sell a commission for $30, time the whole process from start to finish, including talking to the client, and then get back to me on that theory.
And then I want you to consider that you are defending someone telling you to charge less and attacking someone telling you that you could make more money from your art.
Think very hard about this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:27:06 2020 No.5046792 >>5046776 If a plumber takes 1 month to fix your toilet while every other average takes 1 day to do the same job better the first simply won't get the job to begin with, why art should be any different to any other self employed job?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:28:36 2020 No.5046798 >>5046792 Flagrate is a bitch, you either beat the clock or you starve. Git gud.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:30:27 2020 No.5046801

>>5046792
>why art should be any different to any other self employed job
because with art you’re selling a product, not a service, you dumb esl
it doesn’t matter how slow you are if at the end you have something to sell, the client isn’t privy to the process
if some schmuck can’t charge “muh minimum wage” because he took too long, he can just charge a lower price and sell it anyway instead of not getting anything

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:30:51 2020 No.5046803 >>5046792 >you either beat the clock or you starve. Git gud. That is literally what he said.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:32:15 2020 No.5046805 File: 192 KB, 685x632, 1605772485021.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5046508 thnx cuh. im super shit with backgrounds so i'll work on that

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:33:20 2020 No.5046811 >>5046801 >because with art you’re selling a product, not a service No you fucking retard, that is the exact opposite of true. Commission is completely different from selling a finished price. >“muh minimum wage” Ignorant NEET.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:34:54 2020 No.5046813 >>5046801 with art you're selling both the service and product, same as web developer, chef, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:36:35 2020 No.5046817 >>5046811 Finished piece*

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:37:20 2020 No.5046819

>>5046811
no it isn’t, retard
the client has no fucking idea how long you took to finish an image
could be 2 hours, could be 20 hours, they have literally no clue
you charge what you can get away with, be that $20 an hour or $200
and if you can’t get away with muh minimum wage, you charge what you can because x dollars is more than zero dollars, which is what you’d get if no one wanted to pay you
this is basic economics
>b-but that affects me badly
nobody gives a shit, you look out for number 1

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:37:45 2020 No.5046822 >>5046819 You have no idea what you are talking about. Kill yourself, you RPing NEET.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:38:30 2020 No.5046823 >>5046668 Then name some "reasonable" prices yourself bud

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:39:29 2020 No.5046825 >>5046822 You have no idea what you are talking about. Kill yourself, you RPing NEET

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:40:10 2020 No.5046828 >>5046823 Start at $20/hr. Raise your rate as desired and as demand increases. Do the math. This isn't difficult.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:41:11 2020 No.5046829 >>5046825 If I wanted my own comeback I'd ask your mom.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:41:24 2020 No.5046830
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sorry for being a furry
have yet to take commissions and wondering which direction i should go
picrel has pieces and avg time something of that quality would take me
should i aim for min wage x hourly or just come up with a price? feel like charging $30 for only lineart is way too much

second opinions appreciated

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:42:02 2020 No.5046831 >>5046819 0 dollar is better if you use the time you used for the commission to work at a fast food joint or even better if you use it to hone your skills, because doing just commissions won't make you improve as fast

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:44:50 2020 No.5046839 >>5046828 That's not what I asked you to do you retarded nigger

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:46:51 2020 No.5046844
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>>5046828
>Start at $20
>Says the basket weaving floating loombis head amawu drawing tracer
I highly doubt any of you posses the draftsmanship that merits starting at $20. Where's your portfolio? Where are your credentials? Fuck out of here.
>>5046830
Good, clean and fun to look at. Try not to listen to the imbeciles ITT that want to charge per hour, your completed pieces seem to be at the $75 range while being conservative regardless of how long it took you to complete.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:46:57 2020 No.5046847 >>5046839 >cant math >puts prices on everyone's art anyway

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:48:17 2020 No.5046851 >>5046839 Prices can't be determined in a vacuum, they are dependent on the time it takes to do the commission. Do the math, stop being a knuckle dragging neanderthal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:49:45 2020 No.5046857 >>5046844 >I highly doubt any of you posses the draftsmanship that merits starting at $20 $20/hr is a standard starting pay for any job that requires skill or training. Kill yourself, you Dunning-Kruger cocksucker.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:50:23 2020 No.5046859 >>5046857 Show me some credentials worm.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:51:33 2020 No.5046865 >>5046844 >Don't charge per hour goyim, just listen to my baseless guessing :^) >You wouldn't want to overcharge would you? That's not fair to the poor client!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:52:07 2020 No.5046867 >>5046865 Flagrate, nigger FLAGRATE

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:52:24 2020 No.5046868 >>5046830 Nah lineart and flats won't be overpriced going by the math, agreed you should try for more with the completed pictures. Neat to see how much time you took for each picture, feels like you're kinda fast.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:52:40 2020 No.5046870 >>5046859 Stream your suicide, mouthbreather.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:52:56 2020 No.5046872 >>5046847 >>5046851 I didn't guess any prices here, but you fags can't help anyone neither, you can only bitch and moan Kys

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:55:51 2020 No.5046883

>>5046867
According to whom? Because your fantasy prices are no where close to the standard industry rates for these types of illustration.
So what gives you your authority over say, the Graphic Artists Guild?
And "flag rate" is two words, you illiterate faggot.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:57:44 2020 No.5046898

>>5046872
Spouting off arbitrary price points in mass replies doesn't help anyone.
We are trying to teach you how to find your prices yourself, rather than relying on the wild speculation of amateurs that do not know literally the first thing about pricing work.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 19:58:19 2020 No.5046901
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>>5046870
Stay mad bitchboi if you are demanding an hourly salary you are only worth what your folio and resume contains and even that will be dependent on who's willing to fulfill your absurd demands.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:00:59 2020 No.5046909

>>5046898
You don't get to teach me shit, I'm only here to point out saying "everyone else's guess is wrong but actually u can't really name a price yes u have to figure out a wage yes" is just retarded niggershit
Ur a larping /beg/ who gets one comission a month 100%

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:04:40 2020 No.5046922
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>>5046901
>hourly salary
>HOURLY SALARY

This is the caliber of individual you are taking professional advice from.
You are asking how to determine your wages from someone who literally does not know the difference between hourly and salaried positions.
This should make it crystal clear that this 'person' does not know anything at all about business, commerce, or working.

Thus far the people that have been giving out random prices have been
1. A self confessed socdem Chinaboo that does not believe in the value of labor
2. Brian Cumfarti, a balding manchild that lives with mommy and daddy
3. Someone who doesn't even know the difference between hourly and salary
Take fucking heed.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:08:26 2020 No.5046940

>>5046909
Everyone else's guess is wrong because YOU SHOULDN'T BE GUESSING, YOU IGNORANT CHILD.
You don't have to guess, you can just do the fucking math. Do you really not know how to MULTIPLY? Are you so uneducated that you can't figure out what 20 * 5 is? Or 20 * 10? Or 20 * 3?
Basic arithmetic is too complicated for you, so you want to rely on arbitrary guesswork?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:30:30 2020 No.5046995 File: 502 KB, 692x2454, 1579806343037.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] All you need to price your shit, the more recent the better obv

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:32:33 2020 No.5046997 Idea for next thread: write how long a piece took you like >>5046830, posters say what hourly wage you could go for.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:33:34 2020 No.5047001 >>5046997 Inb4 0,0005$ an hour

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:39:31 2020 No.5047011

>>5046940
no client will ever pay you an hourly wage for a commission, keep dreaming NEET. Good luck getting a client being such an entitled schizo.

I did >>5045607
in 30 minutes and got $200 for it. That doesn't mean I make fucking $400 an hour. You will NEVER have so many clients lined up that you are making an "hourly salary", and if you did you'd kill yourself within a week.

Stop posting all this cope because you can't paint and everything takes you a decade to make.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:43:18 2020 No.5047018 >>5047011 It looks like it took 30 minutes

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:46:30 2020 No.5047025

>>5047018
because it fucking did, but I wouldn't tell that to the client. He likes it, he paid me for it, fine, great, perfect.

just in general, you should absolutely NEVER tell a client how long it took you to make a piece of art. It's completely irrelevant information, and the only thing you could ever get out of it is a negative reaction, unless you're fishing for likes on Twitter by saying "This colored pencil drawing took me 600 hours", but those people literally make no money. They're not exactly role models. That dude's not gonna make $24000 on his drawing of Morgan Freeman.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:46:37 2020 No.5047026 >>5047011 >keep dreaming NEET Coming from Brian, the guy that lives with his parents and has no employment, education, or training.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:47:47 2020 No.5047033 >>5047011 >>5047025 Brian I am sorry you are actually based

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:49:16 2020 No.5047038 >>5047033 Kill yourself Brian.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:50:28 2020 No.5047040 >be good artist >dont care for money >do commissions at the competitive price of $5

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:53:38 2020 No.5047049 >>5047040 >dont care for money >still asks for money

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:56:16 2020 No.5047055 >>5047049 Don't worry, he's not an artist either, he just wants cheaper commissions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:56:33 2020 No.5047058 File: 44 KB, 926x250, total.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5047026 this, on top of $2500 in commissions, all in 6 months. Don't mistake me still being here for not having made it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:59:02 2020 No.5047061 >>5047055 I wouldn't mind making a five bucker in less than 10 minutes desu, but by the logic ITT he should be paying an hourly salary of five dollars plus another five for the hour it took.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 20:59:08 2020 No.5047062 File: 87 KB, 1080x1350, IMG_20201125_103548_832.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5042844

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:00:01 2020 No.5047064

>>5047058
Hey Brian, you look for any apartments yet?
Do you pay for your own food? Gas? Electricity? Trash? Health insurance? Car insurance? Dental? Oh, but you pay for your own art supplies, right? And how much does that cost?
You don't live in the real world, so of course you are making a profit, you fucking moron.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:00:37 2020 No.5047065 >>5046456 Im not doing shit that cheap. I was just relived another artist values it above 35 cause all the artists that have no idea about pixelart think its simple as shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:02:02 2020 No.5047069 >>5047064 >Gas? Electricity? Trash? Health insurance? Car insurance? Dental? Nope lol, but I guess the punchline is that I could, huh?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:02:47 2020 No.5047072 File: 3.13 MB, 1672x2508, child-in-business-suit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5047061 >>5046901 >>5047011 >hourly salary

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:03:49 2020 No.5047074 >>5047069 The punchline is that you couldn't. You think you're making a lot of money, but if you had to actually pay for things like an adult you would find that you aren't making shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:06:19 2020 No.5047078 >>5047074 I could get a job and sit around waiting for paintings to sell, and easily make $100,000 a year, or get an education and get a better job, and still be dope at painting, and still be set for life. But i like doing art full time

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:07:34 2020 No.5047079 >>5047078 You truly live in a fantasy world. How does it feel to know that no one will ever like your art more than you do?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:08:21 2020 No.5047080 File: 20 KB, 625x148, cumfart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5047078 Don't you think you're over-exaggerating a bit

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:08:46 2020 No.5047081 File: 45 KB, 849x565, child-boss-business-suit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5047078 >I could get a job and sit around waiting for paintings to sell, and easily make $100,000 a year

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:10:58 2020 No.5047085 why are you guys bullying Brian

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:11:28 2020 No.5047087 >>5047080 >>5047079 >>5047081 even a job flipping burgers for MINIMUM WAGE would net me 100k a year

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:12:23 2020 No.5047089 >>5047080 Why do you niggers leave paper trail like this and openly expose yourself like an open book for everyone to see? >>5047085 You deserve all the shit thrown back if you blog about your life as if anyone really gave a shit.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:14:48 2020 No.5047093

>>5047085
He's an obnoxious, egotistical cunt that spams his Play-Doh bodied doodles all over the board, constantly bitches about other mediums, art styles and subject matters, and on top of all that he is a pathetic loser that lives with his parents.
He is a textbook lolcow.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:15:41 2020 No.5047095 >>5047093 you forgot "handsome"

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:17:30 2020 No.5047097 File: 39 KB, 573x598, 1548195313092.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5047095 You're also balding bro. I wouldn't have known that fact if it wasn't for your plastering your mug as the OP in various draw threads.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:18:22 2020 No.5047099 >>5047093 is he the one that makes those nude paintings

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:19:36 2020 No.5047102 File: 118 KB, 1080x1268, 1606526424053.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5047095 Your mother forgot "handsome" when she gave birth to you.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:20:39 2020 No.5047104
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>>5047058
Damn, you're even more full of shit than I thought. Pic related is your total eBay feedback from the past 12 months, and you're trying to claim that your totals to date is your sales from the past 6 months. In reality, your total transactions is over two years, since your account was created in December 2018. Sad!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:21:09 2020 No.5047105 >>5047102 Goddammit Brian please shave or get a trim.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:22:19 2020 No.5047108 >price according to time spent, not quality what the fuck am i reading. if your art is desirable, people will pay.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:22:53 2020 No.5047109

>>5047099
The horribly malformed ones with no structure and sloppy brushwork? Yes that's him. He's also the same guy that has indicated that he has fallen in love with his models before. He also accuses others of being 'coomers' despite all of this.

He also said this guy's oil paintings >>5046218 are worth $30, but thinks his own are worth $200.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:23:42 2020 No.5047111 >>5047108 Hence the term Hourly Salary. >>5047109 kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:24:40 2020 No.5047115 >>5047102 he kinda cute

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:24:51 2020 No.5047117 >>5047108 And what do you think people should base their prices on, /beg/?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:25:51 2020 No.5047119 >>5047115 Kill yourself, Brian. This shit is exactly why people hate you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:26:54 2020 No.5047122 >>5047119 He could be a real pussy slayer if only he groomed himself though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:29:51 2020 No.5047130 >>5047104 Add to that sellers fees, material cost, shipping and the time you have to spend dealing with eBay's bullshit, and chances are he is making next to nothing. If his doting parents ever kick him out of the house he would be dead in a year.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:30:57 2020 No.5047136 >>5047122 Not with that whole 'debilitating mental illness and living with his parents' thing he has going on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:31:09 2020 No.5047138 >>5047117 quality and demand.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:32:27 2020 No.5047139 >>5047130 Rent free, just like Brian

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:33:09 2020 No.5047141 I'm just waiting for the day when we see "Local Man, Age 27, Kills And Eats Both Parents Then Hangs Himself"

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:33:36 2020 No.5047142
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>>5047136
You kidding? Bitches get wet over an unstable stud like Brian because they won't know what would happen next they love an adventure and if they find out that Brain's been mooching off his parents you just know that he's got bank.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:34:12 2020 No.5047143 >>5047139 >show up in thread >make an ass of yourself >people make fun of you >"R-rent free!"

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:35:35 2020 No.5047147 >>5047142 How's that been going for you thus far, Brian? Any takers?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:36:54 2020 No.5047150 >>5047147 I'm not Brian, you should ask him.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:38:49 2020 No.5047153 >>5046476 left looks like something Firez did

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:39:26 2020 No.5047154 >>5046461 art is a luxury, not a necessity, I don't have to lower my prices because some poorfag can't afford it

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:42:08 2020 No.5047155

>>5046940
The louder you screech the more you make it obvious you're just a larping nigger without any real skill. 20*3 means nothing if result is so shit nobody would ever but it. There are cases where a lot of time is wasted for no good effect, for example your upbringing.
Get off the thread and go draw something faggot

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:42:38 2020 No.5047158 >>5047150 >I'm not me, just ask me!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:43:52 2020 No.5047160 >>5047155 I've already countered this moronic argument multiple times ITT. Just re-read the thread or settle for 3rd Worlder prices, I don't care which you do.

Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:45:39 2020 No.5047163

>>5047065
If you're the guy who drew the pixelart one props, it's literally only thing in this thread I'd consider buying, and for far more than 30 bucks (and maybe the two pin ups posted early too, everyone else just posted anime trash, third of it traced)

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 21:53:56 2020 No.5047180 File: 666 KB, 1719x882, FTYxb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5047158 He truly does live rent free.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 22:07:37 2020 No.5047203 >>5047062 can someone please respond to me instead of arguing

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 22:10:23 2020 No.5047210 >>5047062 >>5047203 $120

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 22:15:17 2020 No.5047219 >>5047203 Do the math instead of asking here. The people here do not know what they are talking about and some are actively trying to sabotage other artists.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 22:16:56 2020 No.5047223 >>5047219 Excuse him for wanting some type of feedback even if it is coming from an opinionated cunt.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 22:21:52 2020 No.5047232 >>5047223 Spouting off arbitary numbers is not feedback.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 22:31:06 2020 No.5047242 >>5047232 way to ruin the commission price check thread, you fucking schizo

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 22:43:20 2020 No.5047265 >>5047242 >let's play guess the number thread*

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 23:11:33 2020 No.5047306 >>5047242 >way to ruin a thread whose only purpose is to sabotage amateurs Thanks?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 00:21:33 2020 No.5047432 >>5042844 Would it be bad to open a patreon if im just starting out? I dont want it to seem like im stuck up or anything, i just really need money

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 01:23:53 2020 No.5047505 >>5047432 Of course not. If your skills aren't up to par, you may want to wait before starting a brand, just so that when you do get good people can't see when you were bad, but that's not even really that big of a deal to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 04:44:21 2020 No.5047725 >>5043154 Work hard Shamiko! Be a demon who's worthy of leaving /beg/ and pricing anon's pitiful art!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 06:23:40 2020 No.5047835 >>5046637 someone b-bloged me...... here, I use the same nick in other sites: https://twitter.com/kansokushaaa >>5047432 maybe it's not a bad idea, just post there often and actually have something to offer to your supporters

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 07:03:00 2020 No.5047874 someone make another thread so I can post mine too

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 08:10:44 2020 No.5047957 >>5047087 is this what burger neets believe

Anonymous Mon Dec 7 08:43:52 2020 No.5048038

>>5047163
This honestly, fucking disgusting weebs are mesmerized and can't comprehend an art piece takes more than a few hours. Keep up pixelart Anon, your stuff is ten times better than any anime art shit you see in this thread.
I would pay 60$ at least for your artwork, I know pixel art like the higher res ones take at least 6-8 hours.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 12:17:13 2020 No.5048361 NEW THREAD! >>5048358 NEW THREAD! >>5048358 NEW THREAD! >>5048358

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 14:52:07 2020 No.5048695 Have one more "Kill yourself, Brian" to be immortalized in the archives.

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