/vent/ thread

[Anonymous No.5007836]

Say it here so you don't have to elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.5007878]

I masturbate a lot.

[Anonymous No.5007884]

I'm just not feeling it today, frens.
It seems that if I don't want to draw 'anime' then no one will give me attention.

[Anonymous No.5007890]

>>5007836
What kind of jacket is left wearing?

[Anonymous No.5007895]

Im going back to /trad/ until i can afford a Cintiq.

[Anonymous No.5007897]

Have a good day, everyone

[Anonymous No.5007899]

>>5007895
>cintiq

[Anonymous No.5007906]

I made lots of new e-friends recently. I should have realized making friends doesn’t have to be other people who draw.

[Anonymous No.5007922]

>>5007906
NGMI

[Anonymous No.5007928]

>>5007922
jelly welly jealous

[Anonymous No.5007949]

>>5007899
any decent shit is good for me

[Anonymous No.5007950]

I hate drawabox with all my passion. I feel like it's the most NGMI resource ever. Just look at /r/ArtFundamentals - almost no one goes past the first two lessons - they're burned out by them. All the crabs here will say "lmao, good, less competition and burned out people - GOOD", but I get butthurt by thinking how many people fall into this trap and stop drawing forever.

Also imagine learning from a guy who draws like this (this was "anatomy" lesson on his website which the author removed when he got grilled for it).

[Anonymous No.5007951]

Sick of actually doing art itself due to realizing I'm a mere subhuman in this large industry of talent.

[Anonymous No.5007953]

>>5007950
I wish I had drawabox when I was young. All I had were markrilley tutorials

[Anonymous No.5007958]

>>5007953
If you did Drawabox when you were young, you'd probably stop drawing forever. I feel like Loomis' books, Jack Hamm's books, Steve Huston's NMA courses (and other courses on NMA about fundamentals) are infinitely better.

Also Peter Han's Dynamic Sketching course (which drawabox guy stole 99% of the stuff from) is also much better.

[Anonymous No.5007961]

>>5007958
I paid for the dynamic sketching class and asked hans opinion on DAB and he said the DAB creator asked for his permission before making drawabox. He was "cool with it" as far as what he said, he didn't go rogue and steal anything in his defense.

[Anonymous No.5007962]

>>5007961
Also he was a physical student of his. Not someone random off the internet emailing him.

[Anonymous No.5007963]

>>5007884
Draw for yourself first, forget the attention

[Anonymous No.5007964]

>>5007961
Yeah, perhaps "stole" was a bit harsh word to use. Still, he's adding nothing to the original lessons, but I feel like he has much worse skills than Peter Han, which discredits DAB's teaching for me.

[Anonymous No.5007971]

I want a nice smelling art gf so bad. We would watch vilppuu in bed talking about gesture and form, I would be the big spoon and I would be non-stop sniffing her pheromones as vilppuu takes us to dreamland

[Anonymous No.5007988]

>>5007971
>We would watch vilppuu in bed talking about gesture and form
wtf that sounds heavenly

[Anonymous No.5007999]

>>5007971
I want an art gf, smells irrelevant. She would sit on my dick facing the other direction and have her own drawing setup there, and we'd both draw with penis in vagina for hours in an adderal/ice induced learning frenzy.

[Anonymous No.5008106]

Feeling like all i can do is hate other people, can`t bear it but still moving on. This peaceful life seems like a morbid joke or a trap made just for me, why does the wind passing through the flowers feels like hell to me?

[Anonymous No.5008109]

>>5008106
Go clean your room

[Anonymous No.5008115]

>>5008106
Because we have been inundated by corporate propaganda to believe that happiness is equivalent to contentment when we are all motivated by meaning in a world that is constantly void of it. Consume. Pleasure. Eat drink and be merry. Your hate is the only thing that gives a semblance of meaning. You gotta find yourself first anon.

[Anonymous No.5008270]

>>5007950
when will they ever learn

[Anonymous No.5008273]

>>5007950
>that anatomy lesson
That’s straight out of /beg/. The warm-up exercises have been fun so far, but maybe I should take my business elsewhere. I was only going to do the box perspective one, but now I’m dubious.

[Anonymous No.5008291]

I was looking for references using japanese keywords and found 3gb archive of specific references I shouldn't be able to find

[Anonymous No.5008295]

>>5007836
i've become a total attention whore and i post my drawings everywhere hoping for likes

[Anonymous No.5008296]

>>5008291
judging by your "epic" rorikon meme reference I doubt it wasn't by accident

[Anonymous No.5008307]

>>5008296
Let's say I didn't kept that in mind when I was looking for the photos but those might come in handy, you never know when you need to draw something cute and funny and most of my followers are japs anyway

[Anonymous No.5008332]

>>5007836
I wish I had a gf to cum inside

[Anonymous No.5008427]

>>5007836
I have no friends

[Anonymous No.5008437]

>>5008427
maybe stop acting like an asshole

[Anonymous No.5008451]

>>5008437
I can't act like one if the last time I interacted with someone irl was 6 years ago

[Anonymous No.5008454]

>>5008451
Oh.

[Anonymous No.5008466]

>>5008451
B-basement troll-sama???? I KNEEL

[Anonymous No.5008473]

In my headcannon my friend and I are two girls with a complex relationship. I like her but she doesn't like me like that. Thinking about them makes me feel really happy.

[Anonymous No.5008500]

>>5007971
you'd probably end up fucking instead and ngmi

[Anonymous No.5008514]

>>5008451
This isn’t possible.

[Anonymous No.5008531]

why are drawing eyes in perspective so hard?? they're just anime eyes, it shouldn't be this hard. and fuck hands. i should probably study hands in depth but i don't want to

[Anonymous No.5008545]

>>5008531
You're probably thinking that anime eyes are just stickers on top of the doll head. They're not.

[Anonymous No.5008570]

>>5008531
You have to think of anatomy when drawing anime just as much as when you're drawing realistically. Every single line represents an anatomical part, just abstracted. They're not symbols. It's actually surprising the amount you have to know, including the eye socket, how far in the eye sits, the angles of the eyelids, the cheek bones, etc.

[Anonymous No.5008602]

>>5008451
based and hikkomori pilled. i'm also on year 6.

[Anonymous No.5008608]

If I’ve been doing art for 25 years does that make me old?

[Anonymous No.5008637]

I literally fucking hate some of the people I do commissions for. They’re polite enough but they’re so fucking annoyingly. stop fucking emailing me and let me do my goddamned fuxking job and stop being such a stingy fucking prick and going over every little detail and asking for dumb fucking revsisions and fuck you for being in a different time zone you are such a fucking cunt go fuck yourself I can’t fucking wait for the day I never have to have another god forsaken client again that isn’t an actual art director fuck you fuck you fuck you fuxk you fuck you fuck you I hate working might as well fuxk all and work at fucking sheetz at this point I hate these people and I hate everything g about trying to do work for others right now

[Anonymous No.5008688]

>>5008637
Damn, and here I thought art directors would know what they want.

[Anonymous No.5008692]

I WANT A GF SO BAD! MY CRUSH WONT ASK ME OUT! AAAH AAAAAH

[Anonymous No.5008704]

>>5008688
I meant, that I WOULD want to work with art directors. I'm really sick of companies that are not art related but require some art work made for promotional or explainer materials. These companies don't have an art department. Really irritated because one of them has me working with their so called "graphic designer" yet she doesn't even have photoshop.

[Anonymous No.5008714]

I wish I was 1/10th as good as Jorge Zaffino at inking, holy shit he's amazing.

Too much work and no drawing is driving me crazy
I'm having the long dreams again, I'm so fucking tired of sleeping.
>>5008427
You got us, dontcha?
>>5008295
Nothing wrong with hustling and building a following. Just make sure your stuff is good.
>>5007895
I had a chance to compare a Huion to a Cintiq, they're the same.
Keep drawing anyway, both are fun

[Anonymous No.5008718]

>>5008714
thank u based anon for replying to everyone. one day you're gonna hit your inking goals

[Anonymous No.5008735]

I've been drawing for 4 months and no one likes my stuff, I'm talentless, I cant feel that spark on my work
Most of my drawings are ashes and my drawing table got destroyed

[Anonymous No.5008737]

>>5008735

[Anonymous No.5008769]

fucking hell I just want to draw the things I see in my head

I tried drawing a pretty simple idea, I drew the exact same shit years ago, even used my old drawing as a ref, but it doesn't look good
I sketched and erased like 5 times now
I tried looking at better artists' drawings and copy their shapes to make mine more lively

It doesn't work and I don't know why

[Anonymous No.5008788]

>>5008637
damn, that's some fine venting, if you're going to commission an artist, why try to steer their art? sounds annoying as fuck dude I wish you good luck.

[Anonymous No.5008819]

>been grinding primitives and hard surfaces for a while now
>started to think more in 3d
>but my work still decent at best
>still struggling with cars and trucks
>start to feel shitty today
>some people try to motivate me,so I feel guilty

And I m now wondering if my art has gotten worse or If I'm just burning out,while listening a song named "torukia".

[Anonymous No.5008829]

>>5007958
they're better but they're hard to understand if you're a wee lad
DAB is straight forward as fuck

[Anonymous No.5008851]

why does my hand gotta start hurting, fuck me dude. i just want to keep drawing. i've spent so long being ignorant with shit art i just want to get better so i can make my dreams
this is just another reminder of the limitations in my life man
i can't do shit, what am i even supposed to do

[Anonymous No.5008863]

>>5008851
Nobody cares about ergonomics until it starts hurting

[Anonymous No.5008868]

>>5008863
ive been drawing at an angle, using my wrist less to draw, do an overhand grip, sitting straight, but still

[Anonymous No.5008869]

>>5008735
just fucking quit already dude

[Anonymous No.5008887]

>>5008863
no one even talks about it

[Anonymous No.5008905]

>>5008868
oof. like with a big pad of paper and conte and everything? Only thing that should hurt is your shoulder (and not even that much, just initial soreness)

[Anonymous No.5008921]

I need a standing desk or risible desk mod to lift my tablet/monitor/keyboard but I’m too broke to afford one until next month. In happier news I finally got commissioned though! My first one of the year.

[Anonymous No.5008924]

>>5008905
there's a lot i do with my wrist. but i try to minimize
i write a lot, type a lot, sometimes i do use my wrist to draw (primarily when I'm at work and only have a pocket sketch book), scrapbooking, and just general daily shit
but i try to use my other hand whenever i can. i jerk off with my left hand and gave up videogames
i study primarily with shoulder with big paper but when i get home from work i basically draw till 1am after a nap and been doing that for the last 2 months

i just want to be enough

[Anonymous No.5008927]

>>5008887
it's the first thing most art teachings start with.

[Anonymous No.5008931]

>>5008927
not everyone gets to have a teacher cunt

[Anonymous No.5008943]

>>5008851
Stick your hand in styrofoam, stab the pencil eraser side into the styrofoam. Now you can draw without clenching your hand

[Anonymous No.5008950]

>>5008924
Try an extra thick pencil grip

[Anonymous No.5008964]

>>5008950
>>5008943
i'll try but my hand are feeling so tingly right now
it honestly hurts to not draw, but i know i need the rest, but it hurts to not draw

[Anonymous No.5009031]

Most of the time i don't know what to draw.
I just do lines until something takes shape.
I refine that shape until something that can be made sense of comes out.
All my stuff is purely from imagination.
I really envy artists who are involved and invested in a fandom.
At least they never have the problem of not knowing what to draw.

[Anonymous No.5009039]

>>5008869
Why? Be honest, am I that bad or should I stop whining and keep at it?

[Anonymous No.5009069]

>>5009039
some people are such supporting cunts they think they need to filter people into art
like people should draw out of spite

in one hand some negative reinforcement is good, on the other hand you need some positive reinforcement

you can do it bro, follow the love in your heart into your creations and you'll be able to create anything. you just need to love it enough

[Anonymous No.5009080]

>>5009031
grind now until you're inspired

[Anonymous No.5009093]

I dont want to make art because I dont like my current shit level. At the same time, I cant fucking study for 10 minutes without losing all ability to give a shit about what I'm studying and then I end up rebelling against my self and just either doing nothing or start scribbling random bulshit instead.

I cant study or grind man.. Its just constant repetition of things I already understand and I dont get how it will make me get better if I draw the same shit all the time. We see people do that shit all the time and nothing changes in their art so why would it do so for me? Fuck me.

[Anonymous No.5009096]

I know this is retarded but something about Krita makes me not want to draw.

[Anonymous No.5009103]

>>5009093
create the thing you want despite your skill level
once you've been loud, then you want to learn to talk

[Anonymous No.5009393]

>>5007836
>know girl irl
>draw one portrait of the same girl every day and never show anyone
>sometimes draw her in cute outfits
I can't be the only artist who does this shit. No I don't draw porn of her.

[Anonymous No.5009394]

>>5009393
Draw her getting fucked

[Anonymous No.5009398]

>>5007878
>t. Kim Jung Gi

[Anonymous No.5009399]

>>5008964
Im interested if any fixes work. I don’t have the problem though.

[Anonymous No.5009401]

>>5008427
I wish I was your friend

[Anonymous No.5009423]

>>5009399
i'm not here to fail for you

[Anonymous No.5009428]

>>5008451
>>5008602
Are you guys neets or just don't like going outside? I'm scared of ending up like this, it's been only two years for me though

[Anonymous No.5009439]

>>5009401
I wish I was your friend too

[Anonymous No.5009450]

I just realized I hate being in the center of attention. I posted my art to reddit and it got several hundred upvotes and some awards, and now I feel violated for some reason. Idk how to respond to their comments and I just feel like they're feeling me up and I can't do anything to stop them. I just want to delete my post and never look back.

[Anonymous No.5009509]

>>5009450
Don't think about it too much. Or you might get depressed when you next art didn't get as much attention or upboat

[Anonymous No.5009517]

>>5009096
I feel ya anon. Some part of the UI felt so half-heartedly made I felt like 'they didn't care so why I should care'.

[Anonymous No.5009541]

>>5009428
What's even out there?
Buncha normies who try force you to make the same mistakes they did so they can feel better about their own miserable existence.
Depending on your psyche, year 3-5 depression might really starting to kick in.
You might even have an existential breakdown.
After that you're good though, but you'll never be able to blend into normie society again.
They'll know you're abnormal even if you look like everyone else.
That's why most long term neets become hikkis.
Of course, this is just a shallow interpretation.
I'm on my 9th neet year, became hikki 4 years ago.

[Anonymous No.5009552]

>>5009541
>What's even out there?
I just want to have drinks with friends, maybe a small dinner, a movie if they want

[Anonymous No.5009566]

>>5009450
Same. I don't do social media anymore. I have a literal blog on my own site and just post to /ic/.

[Anonymous No.5009569]

>>5009552
It's overrated really.
You'll go out every weekend to "build the stress off" while wasting money on shit food, overpriced beverages and a shitty movie with people that will stare down at they phones, chatting with other people while the only noises they make is to boast about what they did at work and if you even dare to say, think, do a wrongthing, you're out.
High risk, low reward.
fuck normies.

[Anonymous No.5009588]

I'm NGMI and my mother keeps pressuring me to "make it" by starting some business that includes my illustrations. We live in poverty and she is homeless while my father is dead. She has no job and I am a 3rd year English major with no chance of a job afterwards too. everything is so fucking stressful. Everyday I am contemplating suicide because I don't think I'll ever make it and I am just a financial burden to my mother who is already poor as fuck. I can't even get a wagie job because I have health issues making me extremely immunocompromised and at risk for covid/death. I just want to end my life. There is no "good end" to it all. Everyday my mother makes me feel guilty about everything. I should've never been born.

[Anonymous No.5009599]

>>5009588
How far are you on your art journey? Unironically PYW, I want to see you make it.

[Anonymous No.5009603]

>>5009031
same struggle here anon

[Anonymous No.5009606]

>>5009588
Do you have any uncles or aunts that could help out?

Why can't you get a job with your English degree? How are you even paying for it now? Could you go to graduate school?

How are you guys paying for anything at all right now?

Why not look for a job? With a mask you won't get sick that easily. I went to hand therapy over the summer for my rsi and there are old ladies who massage and give physical therapy every single day within this entire pandemic without ever getting sick, just because they washed hands and wore masks. I'm sure there's some job like construction or dishwashing where you don't have to interact with customers too often

Also, blog? How much of a following do you have? Try putting yourself out there for commissions.

[Anonymous No.5009620]

didn't draw today and i feel ashamed of myself even if it was the healthy thing to do

[Anonymous No.5009641]

I feel doesnt even worth keep trying NGMI, pic related, today best draw.

[Anonymous No.5009645]

>>5009641
stop fishing

[Anonymous No.5009646]

>>5009599
Thank you for the kind wishes anon. I don't think I'll post my work just out of insecurity and paranoia. I'm not that far in but it's the only thing I have going on for me that I actually enjoy doing.
>>5009606
>Do you have any uncles or aunts that could help out?
No. My mom separated from her family and we have no contact with my father's side. They were divorced really early on too so they don't want to help (problems between my father's family and her).
>Why can't you get a job with your English degree? How are you even paying for it now?
I have an extremely low GPA. Barely passing. Failed lots of courses. I just have life-crippling depression that I cannot dig myself out of which manifested in doing terrible in school. I just have absolutely no motivation to live. You could say it's an excuse or I'm just lazy but it really feels like the truth to me. I just never had a will to try. As for the payment, my mother took her last money to pay for it which is why I feel extremely guilty. It isn't that expensive here, though. Roughly 1-2k for a year so it isn't as bad as the U.S.
>How are you guys paying for anything at all right now?
My mom and I live off of government money. I get a little bit of extra money since I have mental issues (schizoaffective).
>Why not look for a job? With a mask you won't get sick that easily.
I tried before but my mother won't let me work because the risk is too high. I have a life threatening disease that costs 14k in medication to go into remission. It's basically a lighter version of cancer that has the possibility of returning if my immune system flares up.
>Also, blog?
I don't think I will be posting my blog. I'm sorry but I appreciate you asking anyway. I have around 2k followers on twitter. The biggest follower I have is Ilya Kushinov and sometimes I fantasize them giving me some job. It's sad but I only have silly hopes and dreams to carry me on.

[Anonymous No.5009655]

>>5009645

[Anonymous No.5009659]

>>5009646
fuck, that sounds really rough. It sounds like though, thank goodness, the debt from school won't sink you into oblivion. Your art must not be bad, if pros are following you, so I'll just cheer you on. I know you can do it.

[Anonymous No.5009666]

>>5009646
Post Your Work And for how long you have been drawing

[Anonymous No.5009668]

>>5009646
>2k followers and followed by ilya
You're almost there champ, keep it up

[Anonymous No.5009673]

>>5009646
>>5009668
Im glad you have a shit life and I hope you fail, you and your mother are both nothing

[Anonymous No.5009674]

>>5009673
t. seething with envy
Don't you have a tracing thread to post in?

[Anonymous No.5009675]

>>5009673
>>5009646
Your dad? Good fucking riddance

[Anonymous No.5009681]

>>5009674
Who gives a shit? His dad is fucking dead so at least we can celebrate that, low GPA and no money, pipe dream.

[Anonymous No.5009684]

i just wanna draw some good trap porn for i can jerk off to, but i'm in a constant cycle of getting motivated to draw ---> downloading a shit ton of resources ---> drawing a shit ton for only 3 days ---> start to get frustrated cuz i'm not understanding the resources ---> delete all the resources i downloaded and stop drawing for months. i've been doing this for 4 years already and it depresses me that i could've been decent by now if i just kept drawing. i don't know what's wrong with me.

[Anonymous No.5009686]

>>5009646
you're just another loser who only has art to fall back on
some plan you had there retard
maybe you should appreciate that if you don't want to work on yourself

[Anonymous No.5009691]

>>5009659
>>5009668
Thank you a lot, anons.
>>5009673
>>5009675
>>5009681
>>5009686
I do not know why you have to be so mean. I have done nothing wrong to you and I'm sorry that you have such negative feelings towards me. It almost makes me want to cry. Although I am failing I hope your future is well nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.5009692]

>>5009423
I don’t want you to fail. I want you to fix your hand problem so I know for future reference, in case I have hand problems.

[Anonymous No.5009700]

>>5009691
Ignore the haters, they have autism which is linked with sociopathy, so they’re cruel. Unlike you, you’re sweet. Keep calm and carry on. You have time to figure things out, keep going and may your path shine bright. I love the art you posted before.

[Anonymous No.5009703]

>>5009692
yeah but maybe i'm tired of being someone who had to figure shit out himself just so others could shine
25 years i've done that and people just look at me like i'm a retard because that's a path i was i path i was forced to take
shit even like communicating i had to figure out myself
your refusal to appreciate what its like to be helpless make me sick

[Anonymous No.5009706]

>>5009691
Think about your mother, so much for a person that barely works, she deserved better than some cunt fixated on a pipe dream, who's going to give you a job, they'll go for the one that's either similar or better with a good GPA and connections.

[Anonymous No.5009709]

>>5009692
yeah but maybe i'm tired of being someone who had to figure shit out himself just so others could shine
25 years i've done that and people just look at me like i'm a retard because that's a path i was forced to take
shit even like communicating i had to figure out myself
your refusal to appreciate what its like to be helpless make me sick

[Anonymous No.5009710]

i'm only 21, but i feel like i've missed my window. Like, once i finally become ok at drawing (if i'm lucky), i'll be in my late 20's or early 30's. I know i'm still fucking young and there's no way i missed my "window", but i can't help but feel sad for some fucking reason.

[Anonymous No.5009711]

>>5009700
You clearly want to fuck him, how pathetic.

[Anonymous No.5009712]

>>5009710
shut the fuck up dude

[Anonymous No.5009713]

>>5009710
oh fuck off you agelet, we have a ton of 30+ boomers in your same shoes

[Anonymous No.5009715]

>>5009712
>>5009713
i don't know man, i guess i just wished i started in my teens so by now i'd be able to actually draw, fuck me.

[Anonymous No.5009717]

>>5009700
>autism is linked with sociopathy
holy shit I've never made that connection before. It all makes sense now

[Anonymous No.5009720]

>>5009717
Yep. It’s why 4chan, an autism hub, has “kys” as a slogan.

[Anonymous No.5009724]

I'm the schizo poster whining about his lack of progress and I thought I'd share this here because I already did so in another thread. Art matters so much to me, as a kid I fell in love with drawing, I was way more confident back then so I did lots of comics, doodles but I had fun with them, there was this book full of the works of the old masters and this one painting caught my attention, it inspired me. Drawing was fun, it was my way out, my way to cope with my day to day life, some drawings I had to destroy, they angered my mother so I could get into serious trouble, I have no self esteem, Im insecure and Im worried, 4 months and all but it goes deeper, all my life I was mistreated, daily abuse, insults, beatings and more beatings, mind tricks, by the time I was 12 I was already thinking about gutting myself, I dont care about me as a person I just want to be an artist, someone that matters, I have things I want to share with the world but maybe I'm just inferior, unfit for this dream, I'm so sorry.

[Anonymous No.5009725]

>>5009715
you know how many people wished they were in your shoes
you know how many people who started late and drawing is just a reminder of all the limitations they had in life how much is just a reminder of their forced incompetence? you know how many people couldn't start as earlier as you because shit life meant they had to focus on fixing that?
yeah shut the fuck up. people like you make me sick. you don't understand existentialism at all

[Anonymous No.5009726]

>>5008427
You're prolly a cool guy anon

[Anonymous No.5009727]

>>5009726
Aww

[Anonymous No.5009731]

>>5009715
>>5009725
you act like you do, but all you care about is not getting to live a life millions of other people also dreamt of
you don't dream for shit, you just have vanity

[Anonymous No.5009735]

>>5009725
damn, when you put it like that, i guess it ain't so bad. i'll just stop being a lazy bitch and get to grinding, thanks.

[Anonymous No.5009736]

>>5008427
its all a numbers game

[Anonymous No.5009737]

>>5009724
Anon, being an artist is not what matters. Being a good person matters most. Treat others with benevolence, fight for what is just, forgive those who wronged you, and never hurt anyone else. If you can do that, you can change the world. Forgive your mother, forgive your abusers, forgive yourself. Relax, and don't harm yourself, and don't beat yourself up over your art progress. Don't use art as a way to get back at the world. Focus on your personhood first and foremost. Even if you're not remembered, you will have irrevocably changed the course of the universe for the better. I mean it.

[Anonymous No.5009741]

>>5009735
you under the impression i'm coaching you?

[Anonymous No.5009742]

>>5009726
I'm saving this. Thank you so much

[Anonymous No.5009743]

>>5009741
nah, you're just making me realize i'm pretty fucking lucky.

[Anonymous No.5009745]

.

[Anonymous No.5009747]

>>5009743
i hope you deal with a real problem in your life other than this faggy shit. your lack of angst is disgusting

[Anonymous No.5009751]

>>5009737
Hm, thanks anonm I know I shouldn't do what I do, I just tell myself I can't avoid, I'll stop the threads and focus on feeling better and then I'll get back to work, luck on whatever you want to do and thanks for replying to me. Maybe I need to change the way I think about all of this, I need to care less in this way and start to see it for what it is.

[Anonymous No.5009752]

>>5009747
thx man

[Anonymous No.5009755]

>>5009691
you sound like a fucking woman thats why

[Anonymous No.5009757]

>>5009588
Fuck this might actually be me in a year or so

[Anonymous No.5009761]

I'm worried about how slow my drawing pace is. Just this took me 6 hours to draw. There's probably some procrastination in there, but I spend so much time correcting mistakes I spot and it takes me forever

[Anonymous No.5009762]

How do I become more creative? Like I can't think up of any interesting poses or ideas and such

[Anonymous No.5009763]

>>5009691
Do your best anon
You have my blessings

[Anonymous No.5009764]

My stomach hurts. I want to draw but I can't focus on anything. It's not a serious problem, just me being an idiot and having dairy late at night, so the cherry on top is that I got myself in this mess. I wish I could imagine a drawing into existence.

[Anonymous No.5009765]

>>5009588
you know why your mom pressures you to make it? becuase you're a loser who can't, scratch that, refused to do anything else
if money and a future was important to you why didn't you drop brush and focus on school
you're selfish

[Anonymous No.5009767]

>>5009761
stop drawing on digital for now
a drawing like that you can probably do in your sleep if its on paper

simple doodles like that i always struggle with too if its on a tablet

[Anonymous No.5009776]

I feel stuck in an endless cycle. lost my job with corona, stalled on art progress, barely enjoy my hobbies.
I used to play ttrpgs 3 times and week. I would draw after every single one, drawing my favorite scene, being so excited for each. now it just feels like a slog to go to each game, everybody else is having fun and im just a fucking buzz kill.
havent drawn in a month, note book full of pages with like one erased line. im ngmi and just want to stop

[Anonymous No.5009777]

>>5009751
No problem! Take care of yourself

[Anonymous No.5009781]

>>5008735
4 months is literally nothing dude. This is like expecting to be an olympic champion after 4 months of weight training. Just keep going.

[Anonymous No.5009789]

>>5009737
You’re so based with your magic words, talking sense into anon. Quite the feat, honestly.

[Anonymous No.5009797]

>>5009789
True, but reminder that he's saying exactly what Jesus said, yall shouldve listened to Jesus from the start

[Anonymous No.5009802]

>>5009691
>>5009646
>>5009588
You really need to man up and stop caring what your parents think. Shit is completely meaningless, and everything you do for them will be dust when they die before you. If you aren't telling her to go fuck herself then you should be thinking it, and planning to leave eventually. Don't reward objectively bad or abusive people just because they happened to do the bare minimum of what society expected of them and raised you.

[Anonymous No.5009804]

Stop giving out (You)s to lazy bait and obvious you fucking retards.

[Anonymous No.5009809]

>>5009804
I’ll give you’s to whoever I want. Some people bait for malicious reasons, but some people are just lonely. Others want to have fun.

[Anonymous No.5009829]

>>5009742
:)

[Anonymous No.5009838]

I can't seem to think of anything to draw. I could draw if it's from a reference but I can't make it any more original than that. This sucks ass and is what makes me feel like quitting.

[Anonymous No.5009885]

>>5009838
I've started drawing my responses on a bunch of boards. Makes it easy to come up with drawing ideas.

[Anonymous No.5009970]

>>5007836
>Say it here so you don't have to elsewhere.
Ok
Why did the orchardkeeper bad at art?
He was applethetic.

[Anonymous No.5009975]

>>5009797
Mind blown

[Anonymous No.5010003]

>tfw you realize that buying a Gaomon was apparently a bad choice according to the drawing tablet general

[Anonymous No.5010054]

2 of my twitter art accounts has just 1 person blocking me according to an app. I kinda already knew you hate me, but what is the point of doing that? If I were to ever magically stumble upon your handle you only just greenlight it's you because of the block. It's not the first time you did it; if I recall you had another account and did the same thing before quickly changing the @handle.

It ends today. Please do not ever "friend request" me for the 30th time, speak to me in any way or try to mess with me ever again. You get your weird jollies off being a douche narcissist and I can't believe I even let this go on for this long.

[Anonymous No.5010058]

>>5010054
What level of autism is this

[Anonymous No.5010068]

>>5010058
Level 60

[Anonymous No.5010092]

>>5010068

end game content

[Anonymous No.5010096]

>>5010058

Sure, I finally got this dead weight out of my head and can move on completely. Would be dangerous going into another year thinking this guy was in any way reliable. I cannot tell you how shitty my whole year, mentally speaking has been. It'll take an entire year to repair my thoughts.

[Anonymous No.5010121]

>>5010096
I don't know what you're going through, but ive been there before, buddy. It can take years to get someone out of your head after you've opened up the door to them. But two things come to mind, picrel, and "the best revenge is living life well." Hth.

[Anonymous No.5010144]

I hate that I have such narrow and niche interests, and only want to draw those things. Anything else I just can't care about, and that means I can't really form any connections or network with people, neither appeal to a wide variety of more popular interests, hence I have an almost nonexistent presence on any social media or art websites. I can't bring myself to play the networking-game and pretend to like things I don't just to chase the chance of someone finding my work; I'd be a liar and a hypocrite. I get terribly jealous of those who are just absolute wizards at making connections, rocketing to "fame" almost overnight because of how they appeal to so many.

The whole reason I started artwork and writing is because what I wanted didn't quite exist; it did in bits and pieces scattered here and there, which serve as my inspirations, but nothing ever quite had it all. It's not just bad for myself in a career sense, but also very lonely. The only thing that keeps me drawing and writing is that if I don't make these things, no one else will. Basically, I hate having actual autism; it's fucking awful.

[Anonymous No.5010188]

>>5009970
:D

[Anonymous No.5010195]

>>5010188
^^
Have a good day anon(s)

[Anonymous No.5010251]

>>5010121
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.5010261]

Blog below.
>contemplating oblivion on a regular basis, having difficulty justifying doing art
>notice drawthreads on /v/
"what the hell, they can't make me feel any worse than i already do"
>post, await the final push
>instead, get wholesome replies, requests for blog links, etc.
>feel pride and joy for the first time in months
>make a daily effort, do at least one drawing every day
>notice repeating autistic posts and petty drama in the threads as the days pass by
>remember why i stopped interacting with others to being with
>lose interest in drawing again
I did it to myself. Dunno why I even bothered.

[Anonymous No.5010580]

>>5009691
>Wish you a good life nonetheless
fuck ur too good for us anon

[Anonymous No.5010645]

>>5008692
Go ask her out you pussy.
A coward dies a thousand deaths but the brave tastes death only once.
>t. Miserable coward

[Anonymous No.5010813]

>>5007836
I had a mental breakdown due to art school. Started seeing a therapist, but I keep spiraling. Just admitted to my family that thoughts of hurting myself are becoming more and more common.
Years of underlying psychological issues decided to turn my mind on me and I’m scared of what I’ll do to myself if I don’t get better.
I just don’t want to hurt anymore. I’m scared it’s too late. I’m just so tired.

[Anonymous No.5011084]

>Perfectly ok before this summer
>Started art on June 1st
>Started feeling like shit in August
>Questioning how I managed to stave off depression and all of that for the last 4 years and now I am starting to feel useless again
>Come October its really bad now
>November 20th, I'm wondering if I will even become anything and life or if I should just off myself

Was this pandemic or drawing related, anons?

[Anonymous No.5011093]

>>5011084
Everybody faces hardships, its how you respond to those hardships that define who you are.

[Anonymous No.5011109]

>>5011093
:(

[Anonymous No.5011118]

>>5011084
I think it’s pandemic related on anon. I absolutely love summer, I LIVE for summer, but this year I just wanted it to be over. Now it’s fall and I can’t wait for the snow to start falling, I just want to brush past everything and start over. But this week I’ve felt like absolute shit, and have been having the same thoughts like “did I make the right choices? Am I going to be this useless forever? If so why am I even trying?” Everything been hard. When you literally can’t walk into a gas station just to get a pop, without worrying you’re putting your loved Ones or yourself at risk of dying- it’s bound to screw with your head. It’s been a special kind of hell.

[Anonymous No.5011164]

>>5011084

>"There is no tangible reason to live life, aside from our biological inherent desire to live it. There is no truly wrong thing you could ever do, whether you decide to live life busily, or whether you decide to cross the river styx. Things will go on with you, or without. But; you still have that inherent desire. That's the one thing you'll always have. The aimlessness of life, as crippling as it may be, does not negate this desire, but plays in tandem with it. There's no use wishing you can ignore or forget this feeling of meaninglessness, because life truly is so. But the billions of us lived life anyway; your family, friends and ancestors all did too; the quadrillions of other living things all live, all off of that simple desire. There is no truly wrong thing you can do. Nothing written in cosmic or universal law to say otherwise. Cross the river styx if you so wish to. Or live life busily. Nothings wrong. But what of to live life fully? To live life without regrets, without this aimlessness and meaninglessness? Well, that's quite simple. To live in spite of life's meaningless, what can be done except to create your own meaning? It'll be a bootleg motivation; patchy, rundown, and at times pushed to it's brink by the hardships of life. A meaning than can only be built up bit by bit, as you live through joys and sorrows. But it'll be a meaning nonetheless. And so you'll live off of that simple, inherent desire. And off of your own meaning."

[Anonymous No.5011346]

>>5011084
>>5011118
It’s a little comforting to know that there are others going through the same thing.
I used to be able to manage my own depression and anxiety, or at least avoid it, but it seems I snapped this year. Pandemic woes are serious. I haven’t been the same since a death hit my family. Here’s hoping it looks up for all of us.

[Anonymous No.5011372]

>>5011084
isolation and disconnection can fuck up a man, and cause a woman to kill themselves (not that they'd ever have to truly deal with that)
and if you have dreams you're basically fighting an uphill battle

[Anonymous No.5011376]

>>5009752
art means nothing to you

[Anonymous No.5011381]

>>5011346
It is a bit comforting for me too to see your post today. Today has been an especially hard mental health day for me too. I went on a long car ride before seeing your post to sort my head out, and just came to the conclusion that yeah everything fucking sucks right now but its kind of because of the pandemic

[Anonymous No.5011435]

ever feel like you're more destined to get in a car crash that will take out your drawing arm than to become good

[Anonymous No.5011457]

>>5011435
can't get into a car crash if you don't drive

[Anonymous No.5011460]

all these jobs paying $11 to $12/hr should be fucking illegal at this point

[Anonymous No.5011474]

>>5011460
>complaining about $11 to $12/hr
Learn to manage money better

[Anonymous No.5011485]

>>5007836>>5007836
I commissioned an artist several months ago (paid upfront) and there has been little progress (coloured sketch) but the artist is uploading a lot of art on one of those commission art sites. I have contacted them but just get the run around and that they'll get back to me. It wasn't a lot of money but kinda rubs me the wrong way when I think about it especially because I've worked several times before with the artist with very little issues and really like their art style. I want to tell em FUCK YOU but they get a lot of work and definitely won't miss me (also might not get the art/money going down that route). Shit sucks. Thank you for letting me vent.

[Anonymous No.5011509]

>>5009691
you're a failure

[Anonymous No.5011511]

>>5011485
Just draw it yourself

[Anonymous No.5011514]

>>5011511
>just bee yourself

[Anonymous No.5011790]

how do you misunderstand your reference this badly

[Anonymous No.5011796]

>>5007836
i will never make it because every 1 or 2 months i get to overwhelming urge to disappear from the internet forever

[Anonymous No.5011816]

>tfw when you like to draw but you're a wagecuck, not getting enough sleep just to grind fundies and doodle, then wake up miserable every day.

[Anonymous No.5011817]

>>5011816
>tfw when
>when when

[Anonymous No.5011820]

>>5011816
>>5011817
kek

[Anonymous No.5011879]

I want to draw cartoons but I keep instinctively leaning into realism. I fuck up my cartoony stuff because I overthink it. I keep trying to perfect every line when it looks better imperfect. I make good stuff when I'm relaxed but 80% of the time I can't relax and just churn out stiff turd after stiff turd.

[Anonymous No.5011938]

>>5007836
I’ve been looking at a lot of yaoi recently. I’m a straight guy

[Anonymous No.5011953]

These threads are always juicy

[Anonymous No.5011955]

>>5011938
not for long

[Anonymous No.5011957]

>>5011938
Sounds gay

[Anonymous No.5011975]

Niggers are dumb and I'm glad artists have stopped talking about them.

[Anonymous No.5011980]

>>5011975
>doesn't like people talkinga bout niggers
>starts talking about niggers
what are you doing nigger?

[Anonymous No.5011984]

>>5011790
That dude is still being booty blasted over nothing?

[Anonymous No.5012009]

I wanted to post this on a drawthread but the faggot mods of /b/ are hiding all my posts for some reason
they sent "succesfully" but never actually appear so can anyone change her skin color to make it match the arm? thanks

[Anonymous No.5012028]

>>5011984
it's every fucking day lmao
luckily he mostly keeps that to his stories so it's easy to ignore

[Anonymous No.5012036]

>>5012009
This is autism.

[Anonymous No.5012037]

>>5012028
I like how you can be making that much money, working with you're favorite game companies and have contact with Ethots begging for you're art at cons and have over 100k people fellating you, but still be that insecure. Like holy fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.5012051]

horny

[Anonymous No.5012060]

>>5010261
I started drawing on vee threads too. Many of the posters there are borderline insane

[Anonymous No.5012064]

/ic/ behaves like women

[Anonymous No.5012065]

>>5011790
>robaato
Didnt this nigga cry about something a few months ago when people mentioned how they paid him a long time ago for commissions and he never did them

[Anonymous No.5012067]

caca uraco papamacaru

[Anonymous No.5012287]

>>5012037
The mind is a dangerous thing. Success doesn’t necessarily erase insecurity. If anything, it can increase once you fear losing it.
It’s not inherently rational.

[Anonymous No.5012301]

>>5011816
Im exactly on the same spot, on top of having no talent and being on a position where having this specific job is the difference between life and death. If I were to lose it I would have to go back to my native shithole meaning I would either die of corona or get mauled by the ongoing revolution.

[Anonymous No.5012335]

>>5012064
Once you have actual experience in your life you'll realize pettiness and drama isn't a gendered thing
Now make sure you tidy your room for that next Zoom class!

[Anonymous No.5012336]

>>5008106

[Anonymous No.5012413]

>>5011790
Seems weird that a guy with works that look good makes such a mistake or would rely on such a bad ref.
is he a hack?

[Anonymous No.5012470]

>>5012065
It definitely seems like he's very lazy when it comes to getting his commissions and products out in a timely manner; he wouldn't be constantly having a problem with people requesting refunds if he did his shit on time. You can find one of his sketch books on Exhentai and the person that uploaded it said that he and a ton of people got fucked over and never received a physical copy and only got a digital one despite paying for the former.
>>5012287
This seems like a thing almost exclusive to artist types though. I never see anyone in other types of fields constantly sperging out like this besides artist and actors. Its fucking pathetic no matter how you cut it.

[Anonymous No.5012524]

>>5012470
>This seems like a thing almost exclusive to artist types though.
insecurity comes from a place of inferiority, real or perceived doesn't matter.
Artist who crab on others are mostly very beggish or haven't accomplished anything that gives them confidence.
Why should someone that is already accomplished fear his critics?
Something really doesn't add up.

[Anonymous No.5012738]

>art youtuber stops making art videos and makes generic drama videos instead
mohammad agbadi what happened

[Anonymous No.5012892]

>>5007836
I'm soo fucking jealous that my friend arts is much more popular than mine.
I'm starting to grow an intense hate for moe art..
Also fuck those artists that keep crying because their art don't receive attention. Fuck you C, 100+ likes and shares is fucking a lot you ungrateful cunt.

[Anonymous No.5012911]

>>5012287
It's crazy because he can bitch this much and still not become a laughing stock by the norm. Nigga is one of the bitchiest artists I've seen on twitter

[Anonymous No.5013002]

>>5012287
insecurities are like dominos. once one falls the rest can follow
what i'm saying is that if you have hang ups in one area (perhaps not related to art at all), it can influenced everything else once you're "triggered"

a lot of artists are unstable people because they've suppressed their hang-ups
go and clean your dirty laundry

[Anonymous No.5013190]

So I'm starting to get some attention for my art and people who used to ignore me are now trying to talk to me.

I know it's a good thing, but it still bothers me...
Has anyone had something similar?
And do you have anything to resolve this issue?
I don't want to be spiteful, but i can't stop thinking about this.

[Anonymous No.5013198]

>>5013190
Fuck'em

[Anonymous No.5013200]

>>5013198
l-lewd

[Anonymous No.5013202]

>>5013002

[Anonymous No.5013216]

>>5012892
keep the drama to the fujocord

[Anonymous No.5013220]

Chairs are so hard to draw

[Anonymous No.5013221]

>>5007836
Did some existential crisis bs half a year ago and decided that I'm gonna take art seriously.
I've been surrounded by art people my age, but realizing that they don't have the same drive, been feeling shit cause I can't relate to them anymore e.g playing video games the whole time, etc.

I tried looking for more art friends but it's so fucking hard

[Anonymous No.5013227]

>>5013220
what? just draw a box

[Anonymous No.5013230]

>>5012892

Why are you jealous? Why not be happy for them, also think of it as an opportunity, if they grow they can help you out

[Anonymous No.5013237]

I had too much sex today, can't study. Just going to sleep early.

[Anonymous No.5013243]

How are taxes not theft wtf I'm so mad

[Anonymous No.5013247]

>>5009691
I'm cheering for you anon, you got this

[Anonymous No.5013249]

>>5009710
hang yourself. Im 26, doin just fine, probably gonna be good when im 33

[Anonymous No.5013279]

Why does it have to be this failed drawing that made fall in the coom pit again when everything was fine..

[Anonymous No.5013418]

I CAN'T FUCKING DRAW A COMIC

[Anonymous No.5013444]

>>5012301
(virtual hug)

[Anonymous No.5013511]

So tired of seeing people draw over-rendered, polished turd, airbrushed faggy K-pop boytoys on Instagram.

[Anonymous No.5013786]

>>5013190
the art community is fucked up and vain
basically you don't even matter as a person until you have good art

i have a lot of art peers in a discord much better than me who ignore me and feels like they expect me to only be interested in them because i'm the loser with bad art
i honestly am weary of when i get better of how they'll start treating me

[Anonymous No.5013806]

I didn't finish yesterday's drawing. I'm not sure of what I did all day, I think I watched some videos and learned a piano piece.

[Anonymous No.5013836]

>>5013786
That's how the world work, anon. If you aren't this or that, then people will ignore you.

[Anonymous No.5013841]

>>5013786
>>5013836
>>5013190
Its human nature to be honest. It sucks but it is what it is

[Anonymous No.5013845]

>>5013836
these are people i thought were friends desu

[Anonymous No.5013897]

i am struggling

[Anonymous No.5013901]

>>5013190
Yeah it's these same people when you have money they'll be all buddy buddy but the minute their gravy train stops they leave you cold turkey and are nowhere in sight when you are the one in need. Fuck them.

[Anonymous No.5013903]

>>5013841
>>5013786
>>5013836

and i don't get it either some of friends that i thought would be happy for me, are being dick to me

[Anonymous No.5013907]

>>5013903
How are they being a dick to you? Are they telling you things you don't like to hear because your ego is being inflated by the positive attention you are getting? These are your true friends the ones that tell things the way they are.

[Anonymous No.5013953]

>>5007897
NO

[Anonymous No.5013955]

>>5013907
no they're being passive aggressive. I never talk about my socials and they just keep bring it up. how is that being a true friend?

[Anonymous No.5013970]

>>5013444
Never give up frend. I know I'll never will since it would be more pain on top of the daily misery. It will take time but as long as we keep on trying honestly we might have a chance to make it. If you keep trying life finds a way. Stay strong and next time you feel bad remember this and the fact there you are not alone in this silent struggle fighting for your dreams.

[Anonymous No.5014016]

im sorry. I know im not good, im trying my best... please don't make fun of me

[Anonymous No.5014017]

>>5013897
Sorry to hear that. I hope things change for you.

[Anonymous No.5014027]

>>5013955
Internet friends are almost never true friends. And to add to that, people who are in art fields tend to be much more feminine, especially the men; which leads to a lot of passive aggression energy being thrown around no matter what. Being an artist is an incredibly lonely road, littered by people who are bitter, and insecure looking to drag everyone else down. Just look at the faggot robaato. Man is the definition of "Made it". art director for a popular show on adult swim, works on tons of official game art and gets tons and tons of money from coms and merch, yet he still sperges out daily like some mentally ill sub 500 follower retard.

I'd honestly say if you haven't found art friends IRL then don't bother with art types outside of the usual pleasantries. Most of them seem to have some sort of mental problem.

[Anonymous No.5014031]

>>5014016
if they make fun of you for being bad, they're /beg/. Or you let your big ego show. (but that's probably not the case given your post :D)

[Anonymous No.5014043]

>>5014027

I'm just happy with my art
but I just found out some people i admire and friends make fun of me
I don't think im bad, but im not good either.
But it just fucking hurts, i'll get over it, but it just fucking hurts

[Anonymous No.5014046]

>>5014031

I don't think im bad, but it still sucks to know people you look up to make fun of you behind your back

[Anonymous No.5014048]

>>5014043
Just take it as a learning experience anon. Most artist pretty much act like women, so this behavior is to be expected. Go get some real friends.

[Anonymous No.5014050]

>>5014048
I have real friends, im just bothered by this at the moment.

I'll get over it
Thanks man appreciate the insight

[Anonymous No.5014067]

>>5014046
oh fuck. im sorry, thats the worst feeling

[Anonymous No.5014070]

>>5014067
I'll get over it, but it still sucks.

[Anonymous No.5014077]

>>5014046
this is honestly my fear
and i feel like its mostly true

[Anonymous No.5014083]

>>5014077
It fucking hurts dude, but... it makes me i guess builds me up.

I know i can kick their ass, but they're online, so nothing i can do...

still hurts tho...

[Anonymous No.5014127]

>Just about done finishing an illustration
>You suddenly realize you do not have anywhere to post or share it with.

[Anonymous No.5014135]

>>5014127
dude.. social media was honestly just a stress factor for me. I constantly compared to those who just seemed to catch a following wayyy faster in much shorter time and got crabby about it. Social media is a cancer for new artists

[Anonymous No.5014157]

>>5007836
What do I do when I'm too angry to draw? Right now because of Covid I'm stuck with my parents, and they make me angry for a variety of reasons

[Anonymous No.5014164]

>>5014083
You should confront them about it and don't be passive, don't be aggressive, just confront them.
a well-liked person in a server I'm in basically made fun of my art in the cruelest way possible as my first interaction. I really didn't want to get angry because they were right about the art, but they kept going out of their way to insult me. It honestly really hurt.
I even liked this person's art so much that I would even put it in an inspiration folder, deleted it right after that conversation.

What hurts most though was it was obvious my art was this bad and it took someone so terrible to tell me after I tried looking for crit from other people on the server. So I also ended up feeling very betrayed by my friends for some reason. So stupid

Doesn't stop there, earlier this month after months of little to no interaction they just decide to taunt me some more on how I couldn't dedicate my life to art....
And they've sorta continued to do so, I really don't know what I did, maybe they misunderstood me before, but they just hate my art and i guess that was enough reason to shit on me and felt like to everyone else it was like nothing happening at all because everyone just likes them ya'know. They have good art, and doesn't matter if they like to shit on people for no reason.

it really hurt a lot, but i guess a lot of people did take notice and must have told them about their attitude.
I didn't really get a proper apology until I actually confronted them about how they were treating me.
i don't even know how to feel. a lot of insecurities have been lifted, but i still feel like shit

[Anonymous No.5014165]

>>5014127
You could post it here or something

[Anonymous No.5014170]

>>5014165
I'd love to for critique, but I have overstayed my welcome here and always end up being banned anyway.

[Anonymous No.5014178]

Do you guys make vent art? I want to make art of people I hate suffering but I'm not sure how much could that help, I expect to feel very guilty about it at some point.
Or should I focus in the art of things I like?

[Anonymous No.5014179]

>>5014178
don't think i could ever make an entire piece thats vent art, just sketches
but those sketches can be used later for inspiration
i've gotten a lot of character designs off quick inspiration sketches

[Anonymous No.5014181]

>>5014170
You make stuff that is banneable? loli? Guro? Yeah you have few outlets, try seeking those outlets and see if you float there

[Anonymous No.5014186]

>>5014164

I already confronted them in the best way
I told them "I'm trying my best" and they kinda backed down a bit, but i know how they are and they'll just keep doing it.
Getting angry won't help me, and i can't physically do anything to them, so i don't care.
So i decided to just cut them out my life. I hope they're successful but stay out of my life.
I'm mature enough to understand places where I'm unwanted, and i have other friends and people who like me.
It just still pisses me off, its like i know I'm not good as them but you don't have to rub the wound with salt and kick dirt in eyes.
I'm just sad for now, but i'll get over it.

[Anonymous No.5014196]

>>5014186
just remember you're more than your art
doesn't mean don't get better, but you're someone of value i hope the best for someone like you every day.
art means enough to you to keep loving

[Anonymous No.5014203]

>>5014046
Your current despair is a stepping stone in your journey to greatness

[Anonymous No.5014208]

>>5014179
I don't think a squashed head spilling blood will have much use later but I'll have to see what other stuff do I make

[Anonymous No.5014212]

>>5014208
you never know
art is supposed to be an expression so why not draw it

[Anonymous No.5014222]

>>5014164
>I even liked this person's art so much that I would even put it in an inspiration folder, deleted it right after that conversation.

[Anonymous No.5014224]

>>5014178
>I expect to feel very guilty about it at some point.
You answered your own question.

[Anonymous No.5014242]

I will never get good and I will always hate myself

[Anonymous No.5014258]

>>5014164
Stop trying to make friends with other artists

[Anonymous No.5014262]

>>5014242
yes

[Anonymous No.5014273]

>>5014212
>>5014224
one points jumps to the other.
The issue is what alternatives do I have or how do i overcome guilt?

[Anonymous No.5014281]

>>5014178
Only sometimes when I'm horny and dont want to fap, I just sketch random lewd

[Anonymous No.5014323]

>>5014273
What alternatives do you have? To what? Renting free your own head vs something enjoyable and constructive?

[Anonymous No.5014345]

>people on vc say post art
>get no responses despite them specifically telling me to post

[Anonymous No.5014351]

>>5014345
They don't want hard evidence on them showing that they enabled your bad art

[Anonymous No.5014365]

>>5014351
i've asked what i can do better before and i've gotten "we don't know what you want to do" or "i don't want to interfere with your growth"
i don't know, maybe i want some guidance

[Anonymous No.5014440]

I'm experiencing some weird kind of art block right now and I don't really know why.
I look at my tablet and opening CSP seems like an impossible task. I tried it a few days ago and just got frustrated 10 minutes into the drawing and stopped again.
I want to draw, but it almost feels too scary to do so for some reason.
It's been like this for almost an entire week now. Every time I think about drawing I just end up not doing it because I'm scared. It's not like I post my art anywhere so there's really nothing to be scared of, but here I am anyway.
¨
What a mess.

[Anonymous No.5014509]

>>5014440
your issue is you don't have a purpose

[Anonymous No.5014530]

>>5014164
>Server
Discord trannies not even once. That's why I like /ic/ is shitpost gambit. If you are bad you will get 80% shitpost with the rest being advice and people won't focus on actively shitting on you unless you are an obnoxious attention whore or you make it.

[Anonymous No.5014549]

>>5014530
The problem with ic is that you have to be shit to get any advice at all, if you’re average you get ignored 90% of the time, if you’re good or a coomer you just get “nice” “BLOG?”. If you’re bad you get shitposts or “SOUL”copers but occasionally some int will pour out a load of advice. Even then it’s mostly because teaching helps you learn so you’re kind of a guinea pig

[Anonymous No.5014597]

i spent so long drawing wrong and now i finally have resources to study and learn

all i've been doing is grinding and i don't think i can ever post art again because i don't think i will ever be happy with it

[Anonymous No.5014601]

>>5014549
Well at least its more real than other artist who pretend to be your friend.
i rather have this shit hole than a a cunts who pretend

[Anonymous No.5014610]

>>5014601
idk you still get a lot of vague nothings as advice
JUST DRAW, LOOMIS, etc...
not helpful at all

[Anonymous No.5014612]

I was thinking about looking for a diagnosis for knowing if I have a mental illness but I want to know

>is this useful?
>is making sure that my friends and family don't know is possible and a good idea

[Anonymous No.5014621]

>>5014612
Depends on the mental illness, but honestly I gotta say a lot of young people who submit to the idea of having a mental illness essentially self manifest their problem into a worse one. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist, but a lot of people end up depressed and anxious because they accept that they are depressed and anxious. It’s just hard to define when anyone can walk into the doctors and get a diagnosis for it. How do you even measure if someone is depressed or just unhappy with their life circumstances? You can’t. Obviously if it’s schizophrenia or something that’s a completely different thing. I’ll just say though, if you think it’s circumstantial, don’t begin to walk this path, it’s hard to get off. Change your circumstances first

[Anonymous No.5014624]

>>5010054

I realize making this choice over whatever data an app told me was a poor choice without any definitive proof. Yes, you did that once and I forgave you but I guess seeing that lit something off emotionally. In any case, I apologize for my abrupt behavior. Making a decision that way was something that shouldn't have concluded.

However, I still need to distance myself from you and your community for a long time to stabilize my mental health. As you could (maybe) probably tell from whatever I posted all year long my ability suffered as a result. To not let this keep going on I need to cut ties with you by force and perhaps I was looking for a way, any way, to make that happen in my mind. The app thing was the perfect excuse even though it's not concrete evidence--there are other actions you do that make me question our relationship, but, whatever.

Anyway I'll still be on the board as anonymous. Bye.

[Anonymous No.5014664]

>>5014365
That's basically a none answer, Your probably at the level where advice is not going to do you any good and/or they're too lazy to give you well thought out responses.

[Anonymous No.5014812]

>>5009726
Saw you on esfores :)

[Anonymous No.5014855]

>draw in pencil
>everything makes sense, never erase
>pick up pen
>brain deletes all evidence that i've ever attempted to draw in my life

[Anonymous No.5014872]

>start posting nsfw on twitter so I mark my tweets as sensitive
>twitter refuses to remember the setting I have enabled to always view sensitive content when Im looking at my own tweets
>have to manually unhide every image I post now

[Anonymous No.5014873]

>>5011164
That's really nice, where's that from?

[Anonymous No.5014983]

>>5014621
That’s an interesting take. I’m a different anon, but I’ve been dealing with mental health worries myself. It’s hard to tell how much is just circumstantial and how much is real.
It helps to talk to someone like a therapist, as it’s at least revealed a lot of my issues are long running, and have only been amplified by recent events.
I can’t tell how much is me self manifesting after that, but I’m hoping the end goal is overall improvement.

[Anonymous No.5014987]

>>5014872
Why didn't you make a separate nsfw account you giga fucking ass bongo retard thungabi

[Anonymous No.5015006]

>>5014664
i guess i'm at that low of a level but its not like my drawings are autistic deviant art tier drawings (maybe they are)
but i mean even with that there's something people can see.

[Anonymous No.5015100]

>>5008291
gibbe keywords

[Anonymous No.5015189]

>>5014987
I did a poll and 95% of my followers said I should just post nsfw there

[Anonymous No.5015409]

>>5014855
Opposite for me. My pencil sketches are garbage but somehow when I switch to pen I get more line confidence.

[Anonymous No.5015801]

>>5014812
lol hi

[Anonymous No.5015839]

i draw so i don't have to cope with how much of a pathetic person i am

[Anonymous No.5015872]

>>5015839
is bladerunner any good?

[Anonymous No.5016022]

>>5007958
i had a loomis book in high school and didn't understand jack shit

[Anonymous No.5016073]

>>5016022
Same but middle school, which was around 2008. I spent my entire summer in my room copying from loomis every single day and didn't get anywhere. His book and some course I downloaded called "the structure of man by Alien Think". God damn if I was young again in current year with my younger stamina I wouldn't even be on this board.

[Anonymous No.5016082]

>>5016073

And also I really didn't get anywhere with Vilppu because I took his words too literally about gesture. I remember he said it being "the most important step" and never made it past the first couple of lectures thinking I needed to master gesture before moving on.

There wasn't much resources back then and so I relied on the little bit of stuff on Piratebay. I'm really jealous of these 13-14 year olds today.

[Anonymous No.5016225]

>>5016082
yeah, that's vilppu's main weakness, his early lessons rely on his later lessons so it doesn't make sense until going back through it a second time.

[Anonymous No.5016229]

Threads gonna die soon so I can finally say that I don’t want to draw fanart on a regular basis to “make it.” I just want to work on my own stuff. (Also because I am sad because I was rejected from the fandom I wanted to be part of, just I still like the series itself, so I am quite bitter and pathetic)
I am lonely but my OCs make me happy for now

[Anonymous No.5016238]

>>5016229
>I was rejected from the fandom I wanted to be part of
What the fuck kind of fanbase is this? Also keep strong with those OCs man.

[Anonymous No.5016291]

>>5016225
i've been going through his gesture stuff and its really good, but i thought about it. he expects you to already have an idea about the gesture. He brushes off terms pretty quickly

it only gets worse when he starts specifically talking about anatomy (areas i don't know shit about)

he's really good, but i think he's more useful if you're a level 2 /beg/

[Anonymous No.5016392]

>>5015872
i watched 2049 without watching the original and still really liked it. Give it a try anon.

[Anonymous No.5017714]

all the time i spent "just drawing" and not learning how to draw is enough to want me to make me kill myself

[Anonymous No.5017719]

>>5017714
What? /ic/ has been telling you loomis for as long as you've been here. You got nobody to blame but, well, yourself.

[Anonymous No.5017768]

>>5017719
Why do you think I want to kill myself
I always struggled to read and take information
It’s not just my fault because my ignorance, but because my brain, how I was born. I wasn’t meant to do the things I want
No one is born to be an artist, but I was born not be an artist

[Anonymous No.5017794]

>>5017768
Killing yourself over that is pathetic. Don't do it.
As said earlier in the thread >>5016082
NOW is the best time in current era for artist. We didn't have things like mega and cgpeers 10ish years ago. So just strap yourself up by your bootstraps and start learning.

[Anonymous No.5017847]

I can shade and render in 45 minutes beautiful work in black and white but color takes me to weeks to be satisfied with anything in color. I'm trying to make a comic so now I'm stressed about finding a good digital brush that is fast and not shitty.

[Anonymous No.5017885]

>>5017768
Copy the pictures in books. Watch youtube videos. Pay for a fucking in person lessons and explain you're a physical learner. I have ADHD, a math learning disability and dropped out of college. I fucking learned just by watching, verbal direction, and doing without any book.

[Anonymous No.5017903]

>>5017847
This will probs make me feel shitty about my skill, but just out of curiosity I want to see some stuff you've done if thats ok. You dont gotta post tho

[Anonymous No.5018002]

>>5017903
Don't put yourself down anon. I'm inspired by getting better when I see shitty people have better skill than me. Find what fire motivates you. Also, I make a point to always share my work because I'm disgusted by how few share their work on a art critic forum.

Most recent line art that took 45 minutes and most recent color that took about a week. I'm trying to smoosh together color and line art shading into something I hope will be easy and look good with the line art on the left.

[Anonymous No.5018017]

>>5018002
yeah I have the same issue with color that I see you have lol

greyscale looks fairly decent, then the coloring is just pain

not bad on the left tho!

[Anonymous No.5018134]

>>5018017
Plain is a step up from shit so I'll take that as a sign of little improvement, so thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.5018249]

>>5017885
someone should make an essential guide for learning for different brains when it comes to art
i'm not in a position to really make such a resource (not yet) but the more you learn about peoples brains you realize how shit art books are for teaching