/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4948674]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

POST DRAWINGS YOU NEED HELP WITH

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

1.-screenshot the image and post that instead

2.-change camera capture settings to something smaller

3.-send to computer and resize in picresize.com

There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

Take your time, you can do it.

Previous Thread:>>4945384

[Anonymous No.4948681]

Posting again looking for tips on rendering

To the anon that replied last thread, if you see this: what about the shading makes it look flat and embossed-looking?

[Anonymous No.4948684]

>>4948674
Some ground rules to start this thread and the next /beg/ threads off:

>if you are /beg/
Don't ever give advice.
You can relate and share your hardships with other /beg/s, but never give them advice.
If you MUST give advice, start the reply off with "I'm beg, but what worked for me is..."

>Before you post your work
1. Every person giving advice here expects for you to have at least read some of the sticky, and that you already know what you should be doing to improve.
In that light, replies such as "grind more fundamentals" are perfectly viable advice.
We expect you to know what the general fundamentals are (gesture, anatomy, perspective, drapery, etc.), and we expect you to know where you can find resources to practice these subjects.
Sometimes literally the only good advice to give is to practice more and improve your technique.

2. DO NOT post your 5 minute sketches that you didn't put much thought into. If you do post them then make sure to ask for SPECIFIC advice on a specific subject.
If you post a doodle and ask "where did i go wrong" or "how should I continue from here", expect to get meme replies such as "Loomis".

Follow these simple rules and the generals will become much more productive for both the /beg/s and the people giving advice.

[Anonymous No.4948685]

>>4948684
based

[Anonymous No.4948688]

>>4948681
man this straig outta devian art, dont pillow shadow ever

[Anonymous No.4948715]

[Anonymous No.4948748]

Hey anons, are there any tips for sketching? I feel like in most of the more dynamic or perspective drawings I can't understand the process behind making them, and I kinda overall struggle with sketching, usually skipping ahead and then having to redraw things when I'm already rendering them.

I'd post my latest drawing, but it's NSFW.

[Anonymous No.4948759]

>>4948748
you can post nsfw here

[Anonymous No.4948795]

Reposts due some retard mass reply giving directionless advice rather than actually criticism of this drawing. How do i actually improve this drawing?

[Anonymous No.4948836]

>>4948674

[Anonymous No.4948893]

Other than this I've done the self portrait excercise but it turned out kinda shitty so I prefer to not post it. Overall I think that the third chapter of KTD is kinda pointless in the great game 'cause I know nothing about construction and anatomy, I'm not too positive even on the sightining method but dunno.

[Anonymous No.4948898]

to fail
over and over again
to be talentless and unable to produce something decent

[Anonymous No.4948904]

>>4948836
Looks like something out off ulterbach or whatever it was called.

[Anonymous No.4948905]

Just started drawing 2 days ago. Did a bunch of hands yesterday, now I'm trying poses as a break. I'm just following pdf and video tutorials, I made the arms on the 2nd most recent one too thin I think

[Anonymous No.4948906]

>>4948904
Whats ulterbach?

[Anonymous No.4948907]

>>4948906
Pedo game

[Anonymous No.4948915]

>>4948907
Oh

[Anonymous No.4948936]

Why do my anime faces look worse when using construction. My realistic faces have been improving though

[Anonymous No.4948941]

I started drawing in April of this year. I drew this up in about 40 mins. I'm just copying art at the moment and figuring out my own style. Am I going to make it?

[Anonymous No.4948954]

>>4948941
your copying anime art so can't really tell what your weakness are beside that fact that it took you 40 mins on that when it should only take you less then 10 mins. Study proportion and perspective as well with the copying it should help you reduce the drawing time.

[Anonymous No.4948960]

>>4948954
>tudy proportion and perspective as well with the copying it should help you reduce the drawing time.

Thanks anon. I will go and study now.

[Anonymous No.4948996]

>>4948674

[Anonymous No.4948998]

Im pretty proud of these, I'm not asking to rip them apart, but do judge them taking into account I'm a beg and I used no reference.
Am I going to make it?

[Anonymous No.4949001]

Anyone have good techniques and ways to get used to drawing with a tablet for the first time? What should I try drawing?

[Anonymous No.4949003]

>>4948998
Practice makes perfect, were all gonna make if it we keep trying and trying hard

[Anonymous No.4949004]

>>4949003
>whats talent?

[Anonymous No.4949005]

>>4948941
if you're going to spend 40 minutes on something, why not spend at least 4 of those seconds with a ruler in hand.

[Anonymous No.4949009]

>>4949004
Talent is hard work

[Anonymous No.4949011]

>>4949009
HAHAHAHAHHAHAH
3 months of hard work and im failing
talent is everything, you either have it or you dont

[Anonymous No.4949013]

>>4949011
>3 months

[Anonymous No.4949017]

>>4949011
>>4949013
another divine message, meant just for me, so tell me, 3 months of grinding fundies and im still failing
youre talented im not

[Anonymous No.4949020]

>>4949011
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3 months

[Anonymous No.4949021]

>>4949017
>3 months
>still failing

come back in a year or two and then you can complain about talent

[Anonymous No.4949025]

>yes yes art is just for you
>come one 3 months is nothing, waste a year or two

[Anonymous No.4949029]

>>4948996
>on this episode of 14 or 40?

[Anonymous No.4949032]

>>4949005
I will need to invest in a ruler. I shall get on that

[Anonymous No.4949038]

>>4948941
Yeah, keep it up and you might make it into one of those eternal ngmi threads as an example. Grind your fundies you chicken scratcher.

[Anonymous No.4949039]

>>4949029

Don't ger it

[Anonymous No.4949041]

>>4949032
you can create a straight line out of anything by folding it once.

[Anonymous No.4949042]

>>4949029
Didn't get it

[Anonymous No.4949045]

>>4949041
using a folded paper is not the same thing as a ruler

[Anonymous No.4949048]

>>4948674

[Anonymous No.4949050]

I think I made the face slightly better. Life is pain really

[Anonymous No.4949051]

>>4949029
Pyw

[Anonymous No.4949055]

>>4949045
you're right, it's better than a ruler because you can freely make marks on it.

[Anonymous No.4949062]

>>4949013
Go to a booru, go look up and artist, and compare their first picture to their most recent.
Ill give you a hint : it takes way longer than 3 months. try years

[Anonymous No.4949065]

I've become addicted to drawing using the straight-line function in GIMP. It's so much fun to draw that way. You don't need a tablet to make good drawings that way, and the hard edges have a style all their own.

[Anonymous No.4949068]

random doodles and crap I guess, I'm dogshit XD.

[Anonymous No.4949069]

>>4949011
>3 months
literally pic related

[Anonymous No.4949076]

>>4949011
I know its not /IC/ related, but before I started drawing I used to do miniature painting. It took me about a year of painting before I painted a model that didnt look repulsive. Its the same thing with art, I can only imagine "getting gud" in 3 months if you put 12 hours a day into drawing without procrastination

[Anonymous No.4949081]

I understand the whole principle behind why its bad to start to learn to draw by drawing anime. Anime is a stylized portrayal of reality, and its important to have an understand of how to draw something "realistically" before you go in and stylized it, or else you have no basis in reality. Literally.
But at what point would you say you can detach from this beginning (learning the basics, fundamentals, etc) and progress to a different style? How do you find out what your "style" is? Draw with minimal or no reference? or is there some trick. I dont think Im at the point to experiment yet, but im curious

[Anonymous No.4949099]

>>4949081
pyw

[Anonymous No.4949125]

>>4949081
Find artists you like, look through their art and decide what exactly they do that you like, and practice that thing. Just for an example, pic related is an old sketchbook page from 2016. I really like the semi-realistic anime faces that the artist of Virgins' Empire does, so I did some tracing, analyzed the proportions and shapes he uses, then did a bunch of drawings from reference without tracing, then tried to integrate it into my own drawings.

[Anonymous No.4949129]

>>4948688
What's pillow shadow

[Anonymous No.4949146]

>>4949125
Thanks

[Anonymous No.4949162]

My lines needs some polish

[Anonymous No.4949170]

Just sketching while bored at work. Screwed up the shading by using a bad eraser.

[Anonymous No.4949185]

>>4948795
>>4948795
too unfinished to provide any meaningful advice.

[Anonymous No.4949204]

>>4948681
Is that fucken zyzz

[Anonymous No.4949224]

>>4949170
Time to give up on this one.

[Anonymous No.4949277]

>>4949068
stop using the selection tool beglet.

[Anonymous No.4949278]

>>4949170
>>4949224
flip the drawing buddy, you'll see all the errors.

[Anonymous No.4949281]

>>4949068
you are so fucking scared of commiting to a line that you will never get better, DRAW ONE CONFIDENT LINE YOU HAVE THE UNDO BUTTON YOU PUSSY

[Anonymous No.4949283]

>>4948905
Starting with hands seems really backwards to me. Spend time on basic geometric shapes first and then translate that into a basic mannequin for the figure.

[Anonymous No.4949299]

second drawing after upside down igor. loomis?

[Anonymous No.4949309]

How are my hands looking? Top left is without referencing my own hand

[Anonymous No.4949369]

>>4949185
good point, here's an updated picture of >>4948795

[Anonymous No.4949399]

Still copiying drawings, for some reason when i try to make something using circles, lines to measure proportions and all the things the drawing tutorials tell you to do the result is disgusting maybe i need more practice?

[Anonymous No.4949408]

>>4949399
>maybe i need more practice?
whyd begs always come in and expect to be good straight away, this shit takes years anon your stuff will be repulsive for at least 3 months

[Anonymous No.4949424]

>>4948674
I’ve been grinding fundies to draw manga style better basically.

How do you measure proportions in perspective intuitively? I feel like actually using a ruler to measure an arm at a certain angle is way too mathematical and I won’t really learn much from it.

Is it just a matter of drawing it so many times that you intuitively know what it should look like? Another reason I feel actually measuring would be a waste is that every person’s arms is slightly different based on body fat, muscle, and height.

The only fundies I’ve been focusing on are gesture and perspective, how do you know when you’re ready to move on to stuff like construction with boxes and anatomy?

[Anonymous No.4949468]

Eternal beg

[Anonymous No.4949477]

>>4949309
These are awesome, anon.

I wish I could draw like that. Getting there, but wow, pretty impressed.

[Anonymous No.4949488]

>>4948681
light weight

[Anonymous No.4949492]

>>4949369
blog?

[Anonymous No.4949493]

drawabox impala
how can i convey form better

[Anonymous No.4949495]

>>4949408
if it's not appealing at 3 months it's time to give up though.

[Anonymous No.4949519]

>>4949492
no blog yet, but I do post in this thread every week or two.

[Anonymous No.4949522]

>>4949369
like the other poster said, got a blog?

[Anonymous No.4949528]

>>4949011
three months is small in the long run.

[Anonymous No.4949531]

How do I make feathers look better at this small of a drawing?

[Anonymous No.4949545]

I don't get it. What gives something "form" and what doesn't. What is a "plane". What is contour? How do all of these combine with perspective!!??! And all of this is also done by value? What's the difference?

Am I too retarded to think in 3 dimensions? Am I an NPC? I can't link all of these concepts at once while I'm drawing, I have a Joe rogan sized chimp brain.

[Anonymous No.4949560]

How does one make their full body pictures more fluid? I tried to draw a line from the foot to the head to create a dynamic feeling, but didn't grasp it

[Anonymous No.4949565]

>>4949560
Bend the legs. You're always gonna have a rigid pose if those knees are locked up.

[Anonymous No.4949595]

>>4949522
see >>4949519, also nice drawing

[Anonymous No.4949601]

>>4949560
He's just standing. Put a twist or pinch/stretch in the torso.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrapposto

[Anonymous No.4949603]

uhhh

[Anonymous No.4949605]

>>4949565
>>4949601
Thanks guys

[Anonymous No.4949609]

>>4949493
add more details you already have the basics down

[Anonymous No.4949627]

>>4949595
Thanks senpai!

[Anonymous No.4949635]

Alright friends. Tear me apart.

[Anonymous No.4949640]

I was thinking of taking pictures of guys in wow, drawing a loomis-like figure inside of the actual character to try to learn fluidity. Is this stupid or worth trying?

[Anonymous No.4949645]

>>4949640
kinda stupid because these models are very stiff. You'd have to interpolate and improvise on way more information than if you just..watched a model.

[chickenskratchfag No.4949647]

>>4948674
Hi fellow drawfags. How are you feeling today? Had trouble getting my lines down like lines today. Whatever. It's one of those days where you backslide temporarely in some aspect. Just draw guys, as long as you're exercising it's all good.
Or maybe it's because I've been playing with my ass recently. Anal is kind of special to me so I don't do it very often. Or maybe it's money issues that have been on my mind lately. Really hard to figure.
Any tips to help cope with having your time stolen by wageslaving? Fuck guys I'm like a plant I need time to grow nicely.
https://youtu.be/n7bE9qu6mvU

[chickenskratchfag No.4949652]

>>4948684
Lmao art is about intuition. It's objective. You have to have good intuition to be a good artist. You have to sort the advice you see for yourself. Also not every advice from great artists are good for yourself. You are so autistic.

[Anonymous No.4949664]

>>4949635
Looks cool but are the legs of different size on purpose?

[Anonymous No.4949698]

>>4949647
"it takes an idiot to do cool things. That's why it's cool."

[Anonymous No.4949700]

>>4949635
Really wrong perspective but it's hard and takes time to get down. Really nice colors tho.

[chickenskratchfag No.4949711]

>>4949640
>>4949645
As long as you can learn something useful from it, do it. Sure they were made by 3d artists so proportions, pose, etc can be imperfect. But at least they are stylised so it can at least stimulate your visual library. Also they aren't as boring as grinding models that become tasteless and boring really fast if you only train with that.
And most important they are 3d models. So perfect perspective. And you can rotate them however you want unlike pictures.

[Anonymous No.4949739]

>>4949609
thank you i like the teef

[Anonymous No.4949746]

I need general advice I think

[Anonymous No.4949757]

What's the best pose to give with that upper body?
I think I was close to finishing it with first pose lunging forwards but the body looks kinda weird to me.
So now I'm thinking about just having her feet on the ground and it also looks kinda weird

I'm probably too hung up on these details but they make or break the drawing

[Anonymous No.4949761]

>>4949757
first one definetely

[Anonymous No.4949769]

>>4949746
Torso too long. Don't make shadows like that. For a shadow to be that sharp and defined would imply a very strong light source, a very even ground surface and barren surroundings (so no reflected light blurs it.) The shadow is too light and the shading on her doesn't have enough contrast for this to be the case. While you can argue that it is indeed a barren area with an even surface, the human brain likes to interpret blank backgrounds as being backgrounds to yet be made rather than actually being blank. The color of the marking on the paw feels a bit muddy and the hair is rendered weirdly. Otherwise, good color choice and I really like the design. Might be worth it to test out more interesting angles.

[Anonymous No.4949777]

please critique, i feel like I could've done the clothe folds better.

[Anonymous No.4949779]

>>4949777
>Pedo
NGMI

[Anonymous No.4949782]

>>4949777
W-what was your reference?
I'M BEING HEIGHT-MOGGED, SUCH A GOOD DRAWING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.4949784]

>buy a tablet
>oh man I want to be a good artist so bad I have so many ideas of what to draw
>two days later
>realize I can't even draw a clean circle to start construction for anatomy
can I leave this /ngmi/ zone or am I fucked

[Anonymous No.4949785]

>>4949769
Solid advice, and no fluff, thanks Anon

[Anonymous No.4949788]

>>4949784
Do a circle rn and post it.

[Anonymous No.4949791]

>>4949788

[Anonymous No.4949795]

>>4949777
looking good, maybe the neck is a bit thin.

[Anonymous No.4949796]

>>4949791
Try again, but this time do it slowly.

[Anonymous No.4949814]

>>4949791
Here are some of the ones I did in like 5 min, they are a little wonky but they work. If you do them slower you will succeed, worry about speed later on when you get better at doing them.

[Anonymous No.4949845]

>>4949814
pyw

[Anonymous No.4949848]

>>4949845
why?

[Anonymous No.4949852]

>>4949848
because I'm worse than you and I want to pity myself some more

[Anonymous No.4949860]

>>4949852
Then I won't, keep trying and you'll succeed. I believe in you!

[Anonymous No.4949867]

>>4949076
you'll get burned out in two weeks at 12 hrs a day

[Anonymous No.4949869]

>>4949495
lol no, what?

[Anonymous No.4949873]

How should I draw sombody sitting down?
Do i curve the back or do i keep it straight?
I see some poses that are straight and others that are bent, I'm not sure what looks better.
I know curved adds gesture but straight looks proper.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, i'm used to drawing people standing up so i don't know that well.

[Anonymous No.4949874]

>>4949873
did you try... looking at pictures... of people... sitting down?

[Anonymous No.4949876]

>>4949874
yes, but they're different, what looks better?

[Anonymous No.4949882]

[Anonymous No.4949900]

>>4948674
Still need to get better at hands.

[Anonymous No.4949906]

it's impala time

[Anonymous No.4949924]

Feel free to hate, but I'm getting into pixel art for a game and have come here for critique.
Here's my first weapon that a made animation for.

[Anonymous No.4949929]

Is using stabilization tool a crutch I should entirely avoid?

[Anonymous No.4949952]

>>4949757
idk i think the first pose works more, but the right leg looks thin. Left leg needs to be seperated more and maybe made smaller
since the sword arm is smaller than the fist arm.

i was going to show a similar image, but found this pdf on drawing action instead.

http /dl.booktolearn.com/ebooks2/art/drawing/9784805315255_Drawing_Action_Manga_5fa2.pdf

[Anonymous No.4949964]

Took a graphic tablet in my hands for the first time in two years. Wasn't aiming at making it look pretty, mostly point out general flaws and rate the anatomy

[Anonymous No.4949968]

>>4949964
You are some sort of shitposter, aren't you?

[Anonymous No.4949972]

>>4949924
Too much details

[Anonymous No.4949978]

[Anonymous No.4949991]

>>4949972
like just the blade with the gold parts, or the whole thing. because i wanted the handle to be candy cane esc.

This is a different sword i haven't animated yet

[Anonymous No.4950003]

[Anonymous No.4950011]

>>4948941
reminds me of sartorius from ygo gx
anyway i can see how it took you 40min considering your linework is very rugged and that you put in more strokes when most of the hair should be done in much less strokes. also it is pretty asymmetrical, ppl aren't entirely symmetrical but first glance looking so uneven, it shouldnt be like that. def invest in a ruler like the prev anon said

[Anonymous No.4950015]

>>4949299
invest in a ruler
some of the value work is ok, at least i can discern a light source.
you need a better way to draw out the beard, try grinding out some beards using reference, and don't define the shape by going all the way around it like you did with the mustache, the hairs need to be their own thing to make up what it is; a bunched up patch of hair, no outline, or at least i can make out an outline on this one, another anon can pitch in.

[Anonymous No.4950017]

>>4949924
please get some color theory going, then practice color with your own take again.

[Anonymous No.4950022]

My fine liner died

[Anonymous No.4950024]

>>4950017
not getting defensive or anything, but what's wrong with the color?
Does the blade part just look ugly or gaudy AF?
would it look better if i made just the inside part gold, the line the outside with "steel" colors?
did i fuck up the different shades and where its supposed to be shaded?

[Anonymous No.4950033]

>>4950017
Like this?

[Anonymous No.4950038]

please critique, first time not copying a ref but using a ref to make a pose from another angle.

[Anonymous No.4950050]

>>4950038
>Pedo
NGMI

[Anonymous No.4950060]

>>4950038
I'm terrible and that looks good. So don't put to much bank in this unless someone else backs it up, but the hair on the left seems to come out just a tad far and the positioning of the hands doesn't make too much sense for putting the stocking on....which is what i think is happening at least.
like her hand isn't gripping the sock and looks like it's on the front of her shin rather than slightly offset. idk bout you', but when i put socks on my hands are towards the ankle not shin.

[Anonymous No.4950067]

>>4950060
I kinda planned for the other hand to be off screen putting on the pantyhose, while the her right hand is supporting it. Still yeah I get what you mean, I'll try to make things obvious in the future thank you.

[Anonymous No.4950084]

>>4950022
that little boy has slenderman limbs, and the posture looks off........like he's not in any kinda active stance he's just kinda slouched, but not bad overall. maybe try adding some fur to add texture and separate his arm from his hands.

[Anonymous No.4950118]

[Anonymous No.4950120]

>>4950038
This is good - first viewing showed no issues, but with some closer inspection and nit-picking I've got some comments

Lines and animu is very good. Foot and hand look good as well.

[Anonymous No.4950121]

>>4950038
>>4950120
my bad, hid my perspective layer. Here's the image but with roughed in lines to demonstrate

[Anonymous No.4950122]

>>4950121
I'm retarded, here you go

[Anonymous No.4950126]

>>4950122
Thank you so much anon, I'll take notes

[Anonymous No.4950166]

[Anonymous No.4950179]

>>4950038
Always keep perspective in mind
tricky pose. what ref did you use?

[Anonymous No.4950183]

>>4949369
Her fingers look too skinny

[Anonymous No.4950188]

how can i make my lineart less awful?

[Anonymous No.4950248]

>>4950179
>>4950179
This was my ref, drew it from the other side and changed stuff around.

[Anonymous No.4950250]

>>4949929
It's better if you do, but if you have shaky hands for any reason like I do then use it, but only for lines that need to be really clean like lineart. If you do your sketches, shading etc without it you may not need it for other things later on anymore.

[Anonymous No.4950275]

>>4950188
Line weight. Your lines are all pretty much the same thickness, change it up a bit. Don't make one line thicker in its entirety, that creates the same problem but from the opposite side. Usually when the line is something pointy (like a V shape) thickening it at the point or at the base and thinning out the opposite side can work. It's a bit tough to explain. Maybe a good look at pic related could help get the point across better.
If you think your sketch looked better than your lineart try following the sketch more closely instead of deviating too much from it. Generally you should avoid having open holes on an outside line like on her right boob. Inside is fine as long as the shape still comes across.

[Anonymous No.4950277]

>>4950188
her arm is too long

[Anonymous No.4950286]

>>4950248
next time try the pose yourself when you change stuff

[Anonymous No.4950290]

>>4950275
I'll give that a try, thank you. I have a lot of trouble deciding what the "default" line weight should be - also your pic related seems to not even be using a pen tool, because the edges of the lines are wibbly, and yet it still looks good.

>>4950277
Good catch, thank you

[Anonymous No.4950377]

Where do i learn anatomy from?
What's the best place?
I tried loomis but it doesn't really teach you as much as it just shows a bunch of different muscles and bones and says remember, I may as well use google.

[Anonymous No.4950384]

>>4950377
I heard anatomy for the artist is a good book

[Anonymous No.4950398]

any resources on how to improve my workflow or whatever when working digitally? (or in general really. Not sure if workflow is the right word but mean just the steps from beginning to end when working on a drawing. Feel like I have too many rough sketch layers before getting to lineart and feel like I'm doing something wrong or in the wrong order.

[Anonymous No.4950410]

>>4950377
Scott Eaton anatomy course.

[Anonymous No.4950430]

>>4949025
just stop drawing faggot, if you cant do three months without bitching you cant make it, find another hobby.

[Anonymous No.4950451]

anything wrong with these?

[Anonymous No.4950458]

>>4950451
yeah

[Anonymous No.4950459]

>>4950458
cool, whats wrong?

i cleaned one up and semi finished it

[Anonymous No.4950464]

Sorry for the large image, I compiled my best works for each part of the year.
I thought I was improving but I checked my old work and found out that I hadn't improved. In fact I think I got worse in some areas like the feet.
What should I be focusing on now?
How do I move on from my current level?

Please help me I can't get out of this plateau.
I'm desperate.

[Anonymous No.4950466]

>>4950464
what programs and books have you done?

[Anonymous No.4950471]

>>4950466
I've done loomis' fun with a pencil, loomis' figure drawing for all it's worth and michael hampton's figure drawing and invention. I also went through anatomy for sculptors a bit.
I think there may be some others but those are the ones I definitely finished.

[Anonymous No.4950473]

>>4950471
ok let see your non anime figure drawing

[Anonymous No.4950476]

>>4950473
I draw them and delete them shortly afterwards, I don't really see a point of keeping them. They're just figure drawings, should I have kept them?

[Anonymous No.4950481]

I have no idea how im supposed to add highlights to hair. When i look at other artists, I see V-shape highlight patterns that are done with a brush, or something. when i try and do the same thing it just looks messy and horrible.

Also looking for general critiques for this, specifically in terms of the colouring and shading. thank you.

[Anonymous No.4950485]

>>4950476
well whyd you keep all your loli figure drawings? its not really necessary no but you can spot out mistakes over time but desu mate your anime shit seems good, like you cant really go much further with some anime line art, work on rendering and also go ask in the anime drawing general

[Anonymous No.4950487]

>>4950485
ok thank you

[Anonymous No.4950516]

>>4948674
It's so hard to finish this project
I think I went too far with the reference this time
plus perfectionism fucking sucks
after I'm finished with my projects
I will switch to a generalist mindset and try to paint more

[Anonymous No.4950533]

What will you add to the back ground?

[Anonymous No.4950535]

>>4950516
You are delusional if you think this is perfect.

[Anonymous No.4950537]

I don't like using toned paper as much now :/ also I fucked up the proportions a bit in this. oh well

[Anonymous No.4950540]

>>4950535
You're fucking retarded and can't read
no shit, cunt
I meant that maximalism sucks

[Anonymous No.4950541]

>>4950535
L2R

[Anonymous No.4950552]

>>4950540
>>4950541
So delusional.

[Anonymous No.4950554]

>>4950552
>>4950535
You are a faggot and you are a retard.

[Anonymous No.4950559]

Some stuff i drew today

[Anonymous No.4950561]

>>4950554
Imagine a delusional fuck who thought he done too much.
Imagine a delusional fuck who thinks perfectionism sucks is an excuse for lack of skill.
Imagine spending 20 mins doing that shit and think "perfection sucks."

[Anonymous No.4950563]

>>4950559
I like your hands drawings. Really interesting.

[Anonymous No.4950635]

>>4950464
Hey, I just wanted to say that I like your stuff a lot and I wish I had progressed as fast as you.
Honestly I think you should take the plunge and just start working on some original projects that you’re interested in. Why did you want to learn how to draw in the first place? Just start drawing those things and figure out how to learn the new skills you need along the way. I think you feel like you’re at a plateau because you’ve established a comfort zone and everything you draw now is within that zone.
I’m worse than you though, so take it all with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous No.4950636]

>>4950561
Im not even the OP of the painting, I just think youre a massive faggot.
PYW

[Anonymous No.4950641]

Why are you faggots so obssessed with anime and drawing humans?
fuckin simps

[Anonymous No.4950650]

>>4950561
You can't even speak english you third worlder niggercrab

but let me parse it for your retarded bean sized brain

>I think I went too far with the reference this time
meaning I challenged myself too much

>plus perfectionism fucking sucks
meaning I always wait for the "right moment", the right state to give this piece all I have

That's why I said that after I'm done with the projects I have now I will switch mindset, and just work out projects faster ,whether or not they will turn out fine or not so fine

and it was perfectionism, I wanted to say maximalism but nothing else came to mind at the moment

and btw it was more than 20 minutes
pyw niggerfaggot

[Anonymous No.4950685]

>>4949281
it's literally because of the way the colored pencil in csp works. I don't give 2 shits about clean lines when i'm doodling lol

[Anonymous No.4950694]

I've just started drawing and I'm reading how to draw heads by loomis. I unironically feel like this is my peak. Pls no bully

[Anonymous No.4950697]

thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4950698]

>>4950685
the coloured pencil makes you draw 7 lines for one line? kinda weird but ok keep your shitty habits

[Anonymous No.4950701]

What Krita brush do you use for lineart?

[Anonymous No.4950702]

>>4950694
My b

[Anonymous No.4950703]

>>4950697
I think you should take a step back from painting for a while, you polished it too much, making her look like a plastic sex doll.

[Doge No.4950707]

This is my first drawing. How is it?

[Anonymous No.4950716]

>>4950707
What do you think

[Anonymous No.4950720]

>>4949017
I hate this anime avatar retard

[Doge No.4950728]

>>4950716
I think it’s decent for my first drawing.

[Anonymous No.4950735]

>>4950707

[Anonymous No.4950736]

In general which is easier to erase: an H pencil or a B pencil?

[Anonymous No.4950738]

>>4950701
answer slaves

[Anonymous No.4950742]

>>4950736
I use a lead rock from my local quarry

[Doge No.4950762]

>>4950735
And I am les so fuck off.

[Anonymous No.4950766]

>>4950736
The hardness is less important compared to how much pressure you're applying the pencil against the paper.

[Anonymous No.4950784]

>>4950766
>>4950736
Even a 5H won't be fully erasable if you apply a ton of pressure when drawing.

[Anonymous No.4950786]

>>4948674
Need some criticism on this pose before I start working on actually designing the character on top of it.
Any help would help, specially on the legs, they're digitigrade because the species has that.
Any help would do, even harsh criticism, thanks everyone a lot.

[Anonymous No.4950808]

>>4948715
Interesting colors.

[Anonymous No.4950818]

Today I've started the 4th chapter, I think I'm getting better with lines, I'm more confident in tracing them (at least from my point of view). Didn't have a ball/fruit which seems like a sphere so could only draw cubes and cylinders (which I don't fully understand in the construction part), the sightining method was useful as hell despite what I said yesterday

[Anonymous No.4950821]

>>4949369
anime faggots are not allowed

being cute is not an artistic value

[Anonymous No.4950822]

Any beginner friendly tutorial for figuring out how to shade with photoshop?

[Anonymous No.4950824]

>>4950821
>being cute is not an artistic value
Not OP artist, but who the fuck cares?

[Anonymous No.4950835]

>>4949011
> 3 months
ahahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.4950848]

I want to advance my work so it looks more appealing, skillful and marketable.

What are some good resources for learning anatomy, undertanding and grinding gestures and poses? I don't like Loomis but Hampton seems rather good

[Anonymous No.4950875]

>>4950824
If you dont care then fuck off dont do art

[Anonymous No.4950876]

>>4950875
Shut up retard, art is supposed to be appealing and cuteness is appealing

[Anonymous No.4950891]

What the fuck is this?
Is this the pectoral major?
Why is it so huge and protruded?
When does it protrude like that?

[Anonymous No.4950912]

Does it looks fine?

[Anonymous No.4950920]

>>4950912
The facial expressions are a little bland and the hands need some work, but beside that it looks alright!

[Anonymous No.4950927]

So to start practicing art genuinely, do I really just start copying what I see and nothing else? If I'm just copying lines to try to break out of symbol drawing, how will I learn construction?

[Anonymous No.4950928]

I tried the Igor upside thing, its looks ridicilous, but I dont know in detail what I did wrong, just "The face looks silly" and "his left arm is massive"

[Anonymous No.4950986]

>>4948941
Pro tip: just do this.

[Anonymous No.4950993]

>>4950876
appealing is not art

[Anonymous No.4951028]

This is harder then i thought

[Anonymous No.4951035]

The subtleties of drawing good facial expressions really are a beast. People seem to complain about this too little when they start and have difficulties with other things
Faces is where the real bitching should start

[Anonymous No.4951048]

>>4951035
it's all in the eyes and cheeks brah.

[Anonymous No.4951050]

>>4951048
Eyebrows too

[Anonymous No.4951071]

>>4951048
>>4951050
This, the mouth is hardly needed at all for most expressions. The eyebrows do the heavy lifting, the eyelids help out a little bit and the mouth does the rest. What people often forget as well is adding a wrinkle or two between the brows when drawing and angry/upset/focused expression. Eyebrows can only get you so far, sometimes you really need those smaller details

[Anonymous No.4951080]

>>4950891
no fat so the muscle stands out more

[Anonymous No.4951095]

Are these the fundies I should be grinding? Just do this stuff until it looks good enough to move on?

[Anonymous No.4951099]

>>4948674
I have been using microsoft paint to make drawings for a YouTube video. Will this translate to improving my drawings or anything for that matter?

[Anonymous No.4951100]

>>4948936
Animu heads have no sense of depth, try to Instead think of the form instead of drawing them.

[Anonymous No.4951103]

>>4951095
Yes. I think Proko talks about how long you should spend on a lesson in the Draftsmen podcast but I don't remember which one. Basically he said to work on it until you mostly get it. You don't have to master it, you can always go back to review. So mostly just keep moving forwards as long as you feel like you are understanding things.

[Anonymous No.4951116]

>>4948674
Hey I'm having a hard time with 2D shapes, I can only draw what i'm seeing not what i think i'm seeing lines and nothing else

[Anonymous No.4951117]

[Anonymous No.4951179]

any thoughts feedbacks replies yous?

[Anonymous No.4951243]

how do i get better at ratios and LEGS

also what else is shit

[Anonymous No.4951312]

>>4948674
Why my loomis looks weird?

[Anonymous No.4951342]

Kinda happy with this one, I feel like I messed up somewhere but I'm not sure where. I've been studying feet and kinda feel realistic ones don't really match with the art style but that could just be me.

[Anonymous No.4951347]

>>4950821
>>4950993
Pyw to prove that you're not a seething little faggot

[Anonymous No.4951366]

>>4951342
jesus fuck just pick drawabox until you can cut a box in half without guidelines/landmarks

[Anonymous No.4951371]

How do I find out what I want to draw?

[Anonymous No.4951373]

>>4951366
What?
I don't understand.

[Anonymous No.4951381]

>>4951342
Looks great, blog?

[Anonymous No.4951403]

>>4951373
you still have the same problem from months ago, really bad anatomy derived from a poor 3D understanding, try for once memorize a single part of the body in a 3D plane that is accurate as possible as the real thing from any angle, all you have now are nothing but symbol drawings

[Anonymous No.4951426]

>>4951403
I have been practicing anatomy, I worked on feet today.
I'm learning from sinix, anatomy for sculptors and manga materials.

[Anonymous No.4951431]

>>4951381
I don't really have one

[Anonymous No.4951453]

sup guys

[Anonymous No.4951461]

>>4951426
those are terrible they barely look the same from each other, try to get as close as possible to your ref until you can do it from memory from any angle until they look close to your refs

[Anonymous No.4951463]

>>4951453
>TFW your praised
>feels good man

[Anonymous No.4951467]

What the hell am I doing wrong

[Anonymous No.4951487]

>>4951453
hell yeah i love sun with face, my grandma left me this haunted pot in her will reminds me of chrono cross boss

[Anonymous No.4951511]

>>4950927
No one?

[Anonymous No.4951512]

>>4951342
SOUL

Based anon making improvements. Art goals. Nice tiddies too

[Anonymous No.4951521]

>>4950927
>>4951511
It's not mutually exclusive; you can use construction to start big and then draw the more precise lines later once you have the silhouette and general proportions right.

[Anonymous No.4951529]

>>4950927
Tracing is for understanding.
There is an objective to tracing.

[Anonymous No.4951562]

I don't draw for fun I only do studies and I hate it

[Anonymous No.4951598]

>>4951562
i been drawing for 3 years and every time i do they are completely garbage so i go back to the ol' loomis and i hate every second of it but theres improvement and when i draw for fun again i see more and more mistakes and i gotta back to...loomis is a hell without ending... i think we should... just accept that....talent is real...........*dies*

[Anonymous No.4951600]

>>4951598
PYW

[Anonymous No.4951607]

[Anonymous No.4951609]

>>4951607

[Anonymous No.4951620]

Not done, but this is what I have, so far.

[Anonymous No.4951627]

>>4951620
I understand you want to try. But please let this go and do other pieces. Dont polish this anymore.

[Anonymous No.4951636]

>>4951620
Don't listen to hater ass crabs, this is pretty fucking cool

[Anonymous No.4951645]

>>4951487
You should get that evaluated at a museum. I think it looks like an ancient artifact. Maybe Olmec, Aztec, or Mayan.

[Anonymous No.4951653]

>>4951645
It's probably just from a crafts fair.

[Anonymous No.4951668]

>>4951431
make one then

[Anonymous No.4951669]

Any feedback on the anatomy?

[Anonymous No.4951672]

>>4951669
How long have you been drawing? I want to be inspired

[Anonymous No.4951674]

>>4951672
2 years

[Anonymous No.4951676]

>>4951669
>>4951620
>>4951243
>>4951342
How do you guys draw legs? Legs always give me problems

[Anonymous No.4951680]

>>4951672
I'm not >>4951674, but he's kind of right. I've been drawing for about two or three years, but I only started studying it seriously about three months ago.

[Anonymous No.4951682]

>>4951680
I'm glad my intuition never fails me and I was within the ballpark.

[Anonymous No.4951696]

Same drawing, one upside down and the other one normal using construction, upside down had issues with scaling but was more accurate while normal mode drawing had the same issues all my drawings get, symbol drawing and when using loomis, the neck where the fuck does it start? not only that but theres not enough space for the back of the head, the ear takes a lot of space and every face ends up way too long
Im starting to think loomis is a meme

[Anonymous No.4951722]

>>4951620
Dude, where do you post your finished shit?

[Anonymous No.4951735]

>>4951620
Punch looks weird. Almost like she threw a different punch in 2.

[Anonymous No.4951742]

For that anon who got shat on few threads back.
You inspired me to draw this. Keep on drawing.

[Anonymous No.4951763]

>>4951742
which anon

[Anonymous No.4951768]

>>4951763
probably the one who drew that same character with huge tits instead.

[Anonymous No.4951770]

>>4951676
Not him and I am /beg/ but I construct legs like so

[Anonymous No.4951771]

>>4951768
Is it conan?

[Anonymous No.4951772]

>>4951742
based

[Anonymous No.4951774]

>>4951771
yeah. I think so.

[Anonymous No.4951776]

>>4951669
the head is needs to be shaped better
practice gesture

your anatomy is good, but you need to work on how you shape and gesture

keep going!

[Anonymous No.4951785]

>>4951620
Flow of the punch is off, but overall, this looks awesome.

You are definitely improving. You should start posting in the manga thread.

[Anonymous No.4951806]

>>4951676
legs are pretty easy unless you get into muscles, fat and the knee.

[Anonymous No.4951810]

>>4951607
/beg/ here but maybe follow the shape of the face more?
Look at the cheeks.
I like how you did the eyes.

[Anonymous No.4951813]

WIP

[Anonymous No.4951814]

[Anonymous No.4951817]

I’m back before finishing the loomis book because I need your help /beg/
Any glaring issues? I’m mostly having trouble with the taint, hand and shoulders

[Anonymous No.4951843]

>>4951817
How did you practice your lineart skills because if I was as good as you I'd be happy with myself, please share your advice and practice habbits

[Anonymous No.4951856]

>>4951843
I just draw
Also all of that is what I consider to be a sketch. First I do the thumbnail/very rough sketch which tend to be quick and sloppy, then I do the real sketch, then line art
I think having a cleaner sketch leads to cleaner line art, just keep line weight in mind too. Pic related is just another sketch though colored
tldr is just draw
Oh right I will add that I feel like getting into traditional lately has been helping me

[Anonymous No.4951863]

>>4951856
Drawing what? You don't do practices, like an hour of figure sketching, tracing and studying other artists work, nothing like that?

[Anonymous No.4951867]

>>4951863
Sometimes I draw faces and quick sketches but it all revolves around me wanting to draw girls every day https://imgur.com/a/iSExcGb
I use other artwork and photos as reference most of the time

[Anonymous No.4951870]

>>4951867
Thanks, watching that sketch helps.

[Anonymous No.4951875]

>>4951870
My construction is very weak by the way, I recommend looking into doing silhouttes and try learning simple forms of anatomy, that’s basically what I work with as a beginner

[Anonymous No.4951909]

>>4951620
Shit dude, Is this with pen and paper?

[Anonymous No.4951918]

how do i make face up dragons not look like humans

[Anonymous No.4951919]

>>4951918

[Anonymous No.4951932]

some timed figures (inb4 do a better drawing, i'm not focusing on details, just getting the hang of painting skin tones), first one is 30 mins, others are 15 mins. give me some pointers someone please

[Anonymous No.4951946]

>>4949369
>>4949424
>>4949522
>>4949777
>>4949900
>>4950038
>>4950912
>>4951342
>>4951620
>>4951813
>>4951817
>>4951856
baesd animeCHADs

[Anonymous No.4951994]

>>4951932
A good start, you need to blend your midtones better. Keep at it.

[Anonymous No.4952034]

Quickie I did, the proportions of the lower body compared to the upper body is horrible and the arms are god awful.

But if I have to suffer through the cringe of my own art all of you have to suffer with me.

[Anonymous No.4952037]

>>4952034
God drawing at 4:00 am is not helpful

[Anonymous No.4952106]

>>4948905
Gmi


>>4948996
Cute but weird. Has a heavily defined Shrek nose, and philtrum is too long for a young person. That said I don't know what your ref looks like.

>>4949162
Yeah, and the 4 fingers, and understand how to draw people from different angles in different positions.

[Anonymous No.4952160]

trying to learn some anime stylization after grinding a lot of figures. im sorry >>

[Anonymous No.4952163]

>>4952160
n some mouse drawn stuff cuz i don't have a tablet lol

[Anonymous No.4952331]

>>4950986
I'm a brainlet, it appears you just flipped my image. Please explain

[Anonymous No.4952336]

>>4952331
when you flip an image you see the mistakes more easily like how its tilted to one side

[Anonymous No.4952444]

[Anonymous No.4952446]

>>4952444

[Anonymous No.4952450]

>>4952444
no joke for a sec I thought it was a massage hole

[Anonymous No.4952453]

>>4952450
lmao now I regret being lazy with the oranges

[Anonymous No.4952511]

Im giving up on this. Its perspective, right?
I wish i chose an easier pose

[Anonymous No.4952513]

[Anonymous No.4952520]

>>4951918
>>4951919
https://exhentai.org/g/1020589/204a87e356/
https://exhentai.org/g/1020600/6eb095ac5d/
https://exhentai.org/g/1020612/31a75cce4a/
or search Dracopedia on g.e-hentai

[Anonymous No.4952585]

>>4952511
bit hard to tell what you were going for. stick figure or ref?

[Anonymous No.4952622]

>>4952585
I tried using >>4952513 as a ref, this was a my construction bit

[Anonymous No.4952648]

[Anonymous No.4952649]

>>4952648

[Anonymous No.4952769]

new
>>4952767
>>4952767
>>4952767

[Anonymous No.4952791]

>>4952520
broooo thanks so much i was loooking for something like this

[Anonymous No.4952839]

Someone know a good resource to learn values?
Thanks guys

[Anonymous No.4952863]

This isn't my drawing, can people share some references for anime styled hair? This particular image is extremely helpful, I learned a ton just from copying it and now I can freeform better

[Anonymous No.4952902]

>>4949048
what is this suppose to be?

[Anonymous No.4953020]

>>4952034
You're better than me.

[Anonymous No.4953202]

i'm doing vilppu's figure course right now
should i even bother going past the construction stuff
this rendering stuff is completely lost on me and he's talking about anatomy stuff that i can't even understand now...

[Anonymous No.4953281]

Arno breker value study using only round brush and black white and 50%.

[Anonymous No.4953923]

>start draw a box
>get to the "drawing from the shoulder" shit
Is this actually real or some stupid meme? I've asked 3 of my artist friends and they all said they hardly ever use more than their elbow. I feel like you have to contort your body in a weird way for shoulder drawing to even be effective.

[Anonymous No.4953964]

is this enough gesture, does it still look stiff? I don't want her to be bending too much it's more of a "hmph!!" bratty kinda gesture.

[Anonymous No.4953971]

>>4953964
New Thread:
>>4952767

[Anonymous No.4954078]

>>4948998
>Used no reference
I don't believe you since these poses look EXTREMELY familiar to me side by side but I like the gesture of them so good job anon. Now I wanna see how your figures look finished desu

[Anonymous No.4954083]

>>4949309
Bottom middle one looks like the fingers only have two segments and the fingers also look too short but the other two hands are good imo

[Anonymous No.4954088]

>>4949424
I think sycra has a video on foreshortening. I'm too lazy to find it and I personally don't like the method but I've heard a lot of people say it helps so you should take a look

[Anonymous No.4954105]

>>4949777
Nice trips. I didn't look too hard since desu this looks good but the sleeve cuff being larger on one side than the other looks weird to me

[Anonymous No.4954115]

>>4949929
I'm sure there are people who act autistic and say not to use it but a tablet isn't gonna perfectly translate your lines and on top of that a tablet doesn't have the resistance a paper and pencil have that gives you more control. Just dont put it high is all, most programs have it at a good level by default and if it still feels like cheating lower it a little. If you draw trad as well sometimes then you have nothing to worry about.

[Anonymous No.4954118]

>>4950377
My personal favourite book is "Anatomy: A complete guide for artists" by joseph sheppard

[Anonymous No.4954134]

>>4950464
Your ability to copy is really good, it's obvious which ones are and aren't copies of art you liked. That being said, it seems like it's just a matter of drawing something, waiting til you get to a point where you aren't sure if it looks good/struggle with it and then study that for a day or two.
The way I'd recommend studying that tends to work for me is copy a reference while drawing in forms or whatever it is that I want to get out of whatever I'm copying. After that try drawing it again from a different angle or if you're lazy and wanna try fast tracking something like feet, find a bunch of refs from different angles and draw them while drawing the forms in. It's REALLY important that you draw forms even if they aren't landmarked since it makes you thinkore about the ref and therefore you internalize it more. Take notes while you do this, honestly take notes every time you draw. After all, every drawing is practice for the next. Hope this makes sense, I'm not great at making long posts cohesive

[Anonymous No.4954145]

>>4950928
The point of that book is to get good at copying. You're doing it digitally so you have the blessing of putting your drawing over the reference, seeing for yourself what you did wrong, and either fixing it or doing it again (don't trace to fix it either lol I've had people misinterpret this advice)

[Anonymous No.4954570]

>>4948674
What's your initial thoughts, /ic/
I'm more into worldbuilding and concept art than technical stuff but I'm slowly learning

[Anonymous No.4954710]

>>4954570
What is this supposed to be? A weeb manga? Or like simple illustration to a novel?

[Anonymous No.4954728]

>>4954710
It's a continuous process of trying to map out my ideal video game and the world it's set in. It's a way to come up with stuff to draw ig