/asg/ - Anime Study General

[Anonymous No.4923435]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0
https://youtu.be/t_IODIIYAe0

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

/mmg/ - Manga Making General:
>>>/ic/mmg

Previous Thread:
>>4905858

[Anonymous No.4923440]

https://twitter.com/navigavi/status/980019467097751552

[Anonymous No.4923456]

Ah... the /ngmi/ general

[Anonymous No.4923464]

>>4923435
Why is she playing with dildos?

[Anonymous No.4924162]

Are there any tips or tricks to drawing faces symmetrically? I always draw and then flip it but it looks horrifying.

[Anonymous No.4924173]

>>4924162
flip earlier

[Anonymous No.4924175]

>>4923435
Damn, these colors, this mood, I want it all.

[Anonymous No.4924241]

Is the head too big?

[Anonymous No.4924260]

>>4924241
you need to go to /beg/ bro

[Anonymous No.4924393]

>>4924241
I think it is, post a pic of the style you are aiming for

[Anonymous No.4924403]

>>4924260
Post your work.

[Anonymous No.4924524]

>>4923435
copy more tranime!

[Anonymous No.4924635]

>>4924393
I didn't mean to draw with the style i'm aiming for but yeah now i think the head is a little big even for those styles with big head lolis, thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.4924664]

>>4924241
if you yourself think it's big, then yes it's too big

[Anonymous No.4924704]

>>4924635
If you wanna draw like Shunin then yeah, imo start with the proportions

[Anonymous No.4924740]

>>4923435
How do I render exactly like this

[Anonymous No.4924756]

>>4924740
Literally Vilppu

[Anonymous No.4924782]

>>4924756
Vilppu teaches you how to render too?

[Anonymous No.4924796]

>>4924740
There’s a bunch of resources in the artbook thread. Look there.

[Anonymous No.4924987]

Tried making something more elaborate

[Anonymous No.4925270]

>>4924987
The anatomy is a bit wonky (loli arms for example) so you should work on that.
But the rendering is decent and I like how you set the focus in the picture is kind of fancy.

[Anonymous No.4925283]

>>4924987
the anatomy sucks, but the lineart of their faces is so wonderfully smooth and nice to look at it isn't funny

[Anonymous No.4925326]

>>4925270
>>4925283
weird cause I only spend my time learning anatomy, not rendering or lineart

[Anonymous No.4925382]

>>4925326
How are you learning anatomy then?

[Anonymous No.4925396]

>>4925382
from books, quickposes

[Anonymous No.4925505]

Hey,

First off Im looking for a good youtube channel that has stuff on drawing good backgrounds. I am okay satisfied with my figures for now but my backgrounds suck. I find myself most motivated when I get something new to try out so some tutorials would be really good on how to draw backgrounds.

[Anonymous No.4925512]

Im looking for a good youtube channel that has stuff on drawing good backgrounds. I am okay satisfied with my figures for now but my backgrounds suck. I find myself most motivated when I get something new to try out so some tutorials would be really good on how to draw backgrounds.

[Anonymous No.4925629]

>>4925512
Don't really have youtube videos but I got some pretty solid book on backgrounds some anon linked me here once.

[Anonymous No.4925635]

how to fix my loomis head usage.

[Anonymous No.4925643]

>>4925629

Id love to see does it also go with Digital Stuff?

[Anonymous No.4925694]

>>4925643
https://exhentai.org/g/1520949/67a7887ed5/
I assume you use clipstudio? If not the same dude also has one for photoshop.
https://exhentai.org/g/1508543/0e8c60cdda/

[Anonymous No.4925713]

>>4925694

Sorry for requesting spoonfeed but I lost my sadpanda account ages ago, is there an alternative place I can find it?

[Anonymous No.4925725]

>>4925713
>>4925694

nvm found it on e-hentai

[Anonymous No.4925728]

>>4925713
change the x by a -
https://e-hentai.org/g/1520949/67a7887ed5/
https://e-hentai.org/g/1508543/0e8c60cdda/

>>4925694
Fuck your secret club shit

[Anonymous No.4925737]

>>4924782
He's who I learned rendering from, primarily. Way better than Scott Robertson, who has you rendering cubes and spheres where Vilppu throws you right into the deep end with rendering human figures.

[Anonymous No.4925765]

>>4925728
Excuse me? Fuck my secret club?
I didn't even consider there being any kind of issue of accessing exhentai. It's just the links I received which I had saved. Can you relax?

[Anonymous No.4925795]

What are some good resources for learning anatomy?

[Anonymous No.4925797]

>Fuck your secret club shit
Imagine not being able to access sadpanda in 2012+8
Imagine being a dumb newfag reddirtor

[Anonymous No.4925821]

>>4925635
apply loomis to an already well drawn head

[Anonymous No.4925828]

>>4925797
I've had an ex hentai account for over 10 years. I bet that's more time than you've been here, pretend oldfag.

[Anonymous No.4925850]

>>4925635
keep learning
maybe learn from other artists, i found this channel called Manga Materials, cool stuff there

[Anonymous No.4925858]

>>4925828
Yeah, sure, you 2016 election tourist.

[Anonymous No.4925862]

>>4925858
Is that the best you can do? I hope you aren't projecting with that.

[Anonymous No.4925873]

>>4925862
You are the retard who calls sadpanda a "sicrit club". Like how pathetic can you be.
Now fuck off, cretin.

[Anonymous No.4925878]

>>4925728
based

[Anonymous No.4925907]

Thats good anon

[Anonymous No.4925938]

>>4925795
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltbWvlsjhUA

[Anonymous No.4926020]

>>4924403
get dabbed on

[Anonymous No.4926034]

>>4926020
Godly based anon, wonderful and amazing

[Anonymous No.4926073]

>>4925821
Is this what they call tracing???

[Anonymous No.4926092]

>>4925850
Thanks, found it, looks like she has more on her patreon. Too bad.

[Anonymous No.4926134]

>>4926020
Who's that old man? I keep hearing about his tutorials and how good they are?

[Anonymous No.4926209]

>>4922271
Volumetric drawing. Practicing with simple shapes such as boxes, cylinders, and pyramids. Having a good handle on form is integral, because even if you only want to draw people and never want to draw objects (which, really, you shouldn't want, at least in my opinion), you're still going to need that knowledge to do things like drape clothing over a body, or come up with interesting poses, or draw people in perspective, or draw hair and faces.

Really, you need it for everything. The best way to learn it is via simple shapes that you can then use to construct more complex ones.

[Anonymous No.4926258]

>>4926134
hownew.ru

[Anonymous No.4926266]

>>4926209
Mind posting some work/practice?

[Anonymous No.4926863]

>>4926266
not him and im sure this might not be anatomically correct but here's how i use some 3D shapes, i usually take the fardest point as guide lines and then try to find a middle grounbd part that won't change as the base in this pic it will be the knee and ankle and from there is just keep uhhhhhhhhh...... feeling the forms i guess.

[Anonymous No.4926870]

How do I not change the way I want to do line work ever other drawing?

[Anonymous No.4926977]

[Anonymous No.4927010]

>Do you get better just by tracing? If you don't draw from scratch, you won't get better! !! This belief is the reason why your drawing skills did not improve. The flow from the body to the character is the work of animation itself. This is exactly what the original picture / video after the animation director has modified. If it becomes the basis, the range of application to the original will expand infinitely
https://twitter.com/animesijyuku/status/1314846924806053888

[Anonymous No.4927019]

>>4927010
But it says
>get better just by tracing!

[Anonymous No.4927021]

>>4926266
If you'd like I guess; what exactly do you want to see?

[Anonymous No.4927034]

>>4927010
>>4927019
>大袈裟に言ってるけどなぞって上手くなるって本当に普通のことなんです。

[Anonymous No.4927081]

[Anonymous No.4927082]

>>4926977
smug

[Anonymous No.4927084]

>>4927081
based

[Anonymous No.4927474]

Do I really have to censor my shit on pixiv? There's literally an uncensored tag.
It's a total meme that even gaijins need to censor right?

[Anonymous No.4927476]

>>4927474
IM SORR-UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.4927478]

How the FUCK do I draw appealing front facing characters?

[Anonymous No.4927512]

>>4927478
make it symmetric

[Anonymous No.4927546]

>>4927478
copy and analyze appealing front facing artworks

[Anonymous No.4927580]

Would anyone be interested in crowdfunding the translation of this book? The method of Animator/Mangaka/Illustrator by Tatsuyuki Tanaka, legendary animator who's so good that he
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4835456521/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_q-UGFbH4ATFSN

So from the review, it has a lot of texts and few drawings, but the way he presented his ideas is really helpful for semi-pro artists, or at least for people who can draw. It's not a beginner's guide or how-to kind of book though. If anyone's interested, I can order it and start translating it then open the crowdfunding when it's 50%-75% done. Here's halcyonrealms review by the way:
http://halcyonrealms.com/books/ani-man-llust-tatsuyuki-tanaka-art-techniques-book-review/

[Anonymous No.4927592]

Does anyone has that image with the same anime head drawn in multiple angles from top to bottom and left to right?

[Anonymous No.4927600]

>>4927580
that he what anon??? say it straight to me anon what fuck did he do??? dont you dare leave me fucking hangin...

[Anonymous No.4927626]

Thought I'd share a technique that I learned today and yesterday from Jama's videos (they're on cgpeers but honestly do not introduce anything that isn't covered in the below 4 videos, except for the fact that he sketches in x-z or whatever mode than switches to edit mode and translates the bits of the lineart forwards). Basically the grease pencil in Blender is an EXTREMELY extraordinarily powerful tool that can be used to visualise 3D forms without needing to actually physically model an anime (or realistic) head in 3d space. Some people go further by sculpting a rough head to shine light on

webm related is what I sculpted after watching 5 hours of greasepencil videos including like one or two super introductory videos from Jama (though again he doesn't really cover anything not in the youtube vids)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N-glGarYuM
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvashLL2utJGz0yuPBU7gGn-smNT8A3JM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm9yj7LldSo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3O-t_dkoBU&list=PLUc3JG3VG60NfV0JyWyfbc6vST52H0az9&index=2

[Anonymous No.4927649]

>>4927600
Oh lmao, I forgot to delete that part. Oh well, he's REALLY GOOD that he debuted in Akira at the age of 23 years old, he's in the same league as Hiroyuki Okiura, Shinya Ohira, Toshiyuki Inoue and other legendary animators. Strangely enough, he rarely worked in anime nowadays, last time he participated in something it was Blad Runner Blackout. It looks like he only worked exclusively if his friends invited him. Just like Osamu Tanabe, these two guys have immense talent beyond any ordinary animators but only showed up once in blue moon.

[Anonymous No.4927658]

>>4927649
how do they make a living
i thought artist barely get payed

[Anonymous No.4927666]

>>4927658
From what I know, veteran animators at their level get paid much at much higher rate, hence they never showed up in ordinary tv anime, it's not unusual that these veterans only worked in a movie then every one or two years. But Osamu Tanabe and Tatsuyuki Tanaka are such an oddball that they rarely work, even compared to their peers, they only work like once every three or five years. Also, Osamu Tanabe recently made a Lawson (24/7 convenience store) commercial with Ghibli, and in the interview he said "I love to work at the convenience as a hobby", so yeah, they're kind of weirdo.

[Anonymous No.4927674]

>>4927666
Don't they draw keyframes and stuff? Because your normal artist can't do insane dynamic poses but could inbetween or do it if they had a senior artist's keyframes.

[Anonymous No.4927731]

>>4927674
Yeah, but their skills are beyond that. Osamu Tanabe can also draw storyboards for movie, Isao Takahata tasked him to draw the storyboard for My Neighbor the Yamadas because Takahata himself couldn't draw. Takahata also persuaded Tanabe to help him again in The Tale of Princess Kaguya, their last collaboration. Tatsuyuki Tanaka is super realistic animator and his drawings are super detailed I bet it's really hard for normal in-betweener to fill in his key frames. Aside from animation, Tanaka also made illustration book Cannabis Works.
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=osamu_tanabe
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=tatsuyuki_tanaka
https://youtu.be/Brbp6bQlSRo

[Anonymous No.4927749]

thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4928224]

>>4927749

[Anonymous No.4928226]

>>4928224
p-please.. i'm sorry..

[Anonymous No.4928233]

>>4926020
Holy based

[Anonymous No.4928453]

You ARE doing your gesture reps, aren't you anon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilE_78nVEOA

[Anonymous No.4928455]

>>4925858
>>4925862
>>4925873
>not shutting the fuck up and drawing

[Anonymous No.4928478]

>>4928453
>It had to take a goddamn amawu avatar to have you acknowledge the importance of gesture despite all the years of being parroted from other sources which have mastered the craft and now all of the sudden you circlejerk about how she's revealing some form of secret when in fact its been practically spoonfed to you all along.

I can't.

[Anonymous No.4928505]

>>4928453
>vtuber
No. Kill yourself stop supporting this trash

[Anonymous No.4928526]

>>4928505
>>4928478
post your gestures, begtrash

[Anonymous No.4928542]

>>4928526

[Anonymous No.4928699]

>>4928542
/lsg/ is two blocks down, bud. Now stop posting that jabrony loli art and show who the real boss of the gym is.

[Anonymous No.4928708]

>>4928542
Your disgusting art aside, you're such an insufferable piece of trash, and I hope you burn in hell.

[Anonymous No.4928723]

>>4928542
>mikufag

[Anonymous No.4928728]

[Anonymous No.4928731]

>>4927749
On right side
her leg's top curve is too sharp, there should be a gentler slope
Her top arm shouldn't curve together or it'll look broken/rubbery
Also draw a floor, with that feet I'm not sure if she's tiptoeing or not

[Anonymous No.4928744]

>>4928453
I'm trying priestess

[Anonymous No.4928752]

>>4928453
wtf she's redpilling normies now everyone's gonna effortlessly do something I took years to learn

[Anonymous No.4928754]

>>4928744
AAH!!!

[Anonymous No.4928760]

>>4928542
Was the gesture drawing too much for the resident tranny? Does the figure have to be a /d/ tier androgynous fuccboi to get your new asshole puckered up? Let's see what form of mental gymnastics you'll go through to delete this one along with anything else that has a flat chest.
>>>/d/9364703
>>>/d/9356629
>>>/d/9362852

[Anonymous No.4928766]

>>4928760
BASED PEDO

[Anonymous No.4928783]

hi

[Anonymous No.4928787]

>>4928760

[Anonymous No.4928789]

>>4928783
based stiff poster

[Anonymous No.4928800]

wait you guys aren't pedos?

[Anonymous No.4928811]

>>4928800
drawing!=pedo

[Anonymous No.4928824]

Is this thread always like this

[Anonymous No.4928834]

>>4928453
does one get better at this just by grinding? it takes me a lot of time to get a decent gesture and if i try to draw faster with few lines i get an disproportionate mess
>>4928744
roll

[Anonymous No.4928851]

>>4923435
> no toes
Dropped.

[Anonymous No.4928861]

>>4928834
desu i think gesture should be left after you master your basic fundies alike anatomy and 3D thinking, if you do gesture first you won't be able to recreate the poses with an okayish anatomy to back up and without your 3D nogger most of the time your drawings wont be able to depict the forms correctly.

[Anonymous No.4928869]

>>4928824
Not really.

[Anonymous No.4928871]

>>4928834
No, you do not get better by just grinding. You make it seem as if it is as simple as watching a Jewtube vtuber video and mindless copy off it which is exactly what these idiots tout. You improve with observational drawing which means actual life drawing from real world figures and not copying off anime. Learn how to break down a figure into basic forms first which involves cylindrical, box, spherical and even conical forms all the while you are doing gesture drawings in order to have you get used to working with abstract forms and bring about the solid from the lines of action. Don't listen to retards like >>4928861 get yourself immersed in as much life drawing as possible and continue to do gesture drawings while adding basic forms on top of the gesture.

[Anonymous No.4928876]

>>4928871
>Don't listen to retards like
nice counter argument retard

[Anonymous No.4928877]

>>4928766
Pedos are usually based, but not this one. Mikufag is a loser.

[Anonymous No.4928939]

>>4928861
>>4928871
Thanks anons i think i get what you both mean
also stop fighting please

[Anonymous No.4928958]

>>4928744
am i gonna make it

[Anonymous No.4928960]

>>4928871
The "jewish vtuber" is literally doing gesture studies from real life in that video

[Anonymous No.4928977]

>>4928939
stfu begtard you don't know any better

[Anonymous No.4929268]

>>4928744
can i please make it

[Anonymous No.4929301]

>>4928744
roll

[Anonymous No.4929311]

>>4929301
Anon...

[Anonymous No.4929341]

>>4928871
kill yourself mikutrash, permabeg with bad advice

[Anonymous No.4929381]

>>4929301
no...

[Anonymous No.4929458]

[Anonymous No.4929471]

>>4926266
>>4927021
Posted this >>4929420 over in /mmg/ while talking about perspective and realized that it likely applies to what I was talking about here, so I'll post it here too. All of the stuff in this picture was made possible by figuring out volumes and forms like I talked about in >>4926209.

[Anonymous No.4929532]

[Anonymous No.4929540]

>>4928744
Roll for 81-90

[Anonymous No.4929639]

>>4928731
thanks!

[Anonymous No.4929717]

>>4928453
gesture reps no, but i just spent a week copying literally every single pose in morpho: simplified forms

[Anonymous No.4929804]

Figuring it out

[Anonymous No.4929805]

>>4929804
looks good
nose is a bit tilted

[Anonymous No.4929813]

what do you think bros

[Anonymous No.4929816]

>>4929804
source of the original artist?

[Anonymous No.4929832]

>>4929813
i did not realize that is supposed to be asuka

[Anonymous No.4929847]

>>4928834
>grinding
if you want to call it that, sure. yes, you have to draw a lot.
but don't focus strictly on anatomy. try to draw something that you want to draw. like a character or object. designing things is one of the more enjoyable aspects of art.
and always work on the funamentals like doing photo/life studies, gestures and contour drawings.

[Anonymous No.4929918]

>>4928728
Here's your (you) Asukafag.
You definitely should work on rendering, it looks muddy and the hair looks completely flat.
I think having a solid strong light source could help. I did a quick overpaint to show what I mean.

[Anonymous No.4929927]

Some quick sketches

[Anonymous No.4929929]

>>4929805
Thank you
>>4929816
I tried but I can't find it. I know it was on Twitter but I just saved this one pic, sorry.

[Anonymous No.4929964]

>>4929918
thank you
ill work on that

[Anonymous No.4930095]

>>4929816
@uomic

[Anonymous No.4930211]

>>4924260
I think /asg/ should be for all skill levels who want to draw anime, even day one /beg/s. There's nothing in the OP that says this thread is only for non-/beg/s. Just my two cents though.

[Anonymous No.4930269]

>>4930211
I agree.
This >>4926020 was great though.

[Anonymous No.4930609]

>>4930211
the op is not even done by the OG OP, and when the threads started there was a general concensus that to be able to stylize anime you need to know your basic knowledge about fundies not necessarily an /int/ but definitely above /beg/, do you think >>4924241 will be able to map a face in 3D to get all the info to mimic any style? let alone his anatomy so he can stylize in whatever anime he choices to learn from and even if that isn't his goal he is still lacking all the fundamentals to learn to stylize, is more detrimental for him to learn to stylize before even knowing the most basic shit. I don't say you shouldn't draw anime if you are beg(personally i believe you shouldn't), but you are most likely to be told the same shit you would in /beg/.

for that guy's case i would say, his whole anatomy looks like shit compared to >>4924635
he drew spaghetti arms, a box for a ribcage, potato legs, feets look like hooves, the hands are terrible one doesnt' have a wrist and the other have all the fingers at the same height and the hair looks like a really thinn wig also the big head.

so what feedback you will say in this case? keep drawing bro? so he can draw this bad but faster, even 10 minutes without drawing just looking at an anamtomy book he could tell that there are too round bones above the feets called ankles really easy to spot yet he completely miss them.
so i will say he needs fucking fundies and probably /beg/ would say the same but this is not beg this general is meant to help with stylization not fucking fundies theres the book and beg general for that sole reason.

[Anonymous No.4930637]

>>4928478
>>4928505
>NGMI faggot

>>4928744
Rolling

[Anonymous No.4930644]

>>4928744
nothing but hmm hmms and 1 ngmi. fuck this crab bitch

[Anonymous No.4930790]

>>4930644
congrats anon

[Anonymous No.4930794]

>>4928744
Hm hm hm

[Anonymous No.4931454]

>ufotable has /begs/

[Anonymous No.4931536]

>>4931454

[Anonymous No.4931541]

>>4931454

[Anonymous No.4931610]

>>4930790
the secret to success all along was to show anime girls who's boss.

[Anonymous No.4931661]

>>4928744
How are my gains today

[Anonymous No.4931669]

>>4928744
rolling

[Anonymous No.4931686]

>>4928744
Rolling

[Anonymous No.4932296]

What do i do when i can't draw without reference?
Do i continue drawing more from reference?
Or should i practice to draw from nothing and use my imaginations?

[Anonymous No.4932322]

>>4932296
Draw from reference, compare, redraw without reference, compare. Doesn't have to come out 1:1, as long as it looks good enough. If you think something looks off but can't put your finger on it, ask for critiques. Do this many times

[Anonymous No.4932475]

does anyone know what kind of brush could be used in procreate for outlines like in pic related?

[Anonymous No.4932998]

Can anyone tell me how something like this is drawn?

[Anonymous No.4933054]

sorry guys, copying anime only works if you're asian

[Anonymous No.4933284]

>>4932475
Ink Bleed in the inking section with the opacity turned down might be the closest you'll get using the default brushes

[Anonymous No.4933394]

what killed the thread

[Anonymous No.4933468]

>>4933394
crabs
Why even come here if you can't learn anything and get constantly shit on?

[Anonymous No.4933487]

>>4929813
You're making the size of her head too wide and her neck too wide as well, you could stick to your drawing style, but you definitely need to fix your understanding on the perspective on eyes. The left eye is too short in height yet too wide. Her neck is also too thick, and the hands are way too large.

[Anonymous No.4933727]

>>4933468
Not them but I agree. I basically only come here for the shitposting at this point, there's nothing of any real value to be gained.

[Anonymous No.4933758]

>want to make a "cute" character
>start drawing stick figures to experiment with eye proportions
>nothing looks quite right
>look at anime
>all characters have huge fukken irises
>give stick figures huge pupils/irises
>it looks anime
So that's the secret

[Anonymous No.4933761]

>>4933758
>anime characters have big eyes
interesting, tell us more

[Anonymous No.4933764]

>>4933761
they have big heads

[Anonymous No.4933765]

>>4933764
sugoi...

[Anonymous No.4933773]

>>4933761
Big eyes != proper pupil:sclera ratio

[Anonymous No.4933776]

>>4933773
>no highlight
not anime

[Anonymous No.4933934]

zzzz

[Anonymous No.4934053]

>>4933487
not that poster, but you completely killed her expression and then redrew her face in a different style..

[Anonymous No.4934420]

>>4928744
please bless me gains

[Anonymous No.4934445]

>>4934053
he even changed the perspective lol

[Anonymous No.4934449]

>>4934445
>>4934053
stop crabbing, idiots. this is much better than anything asukafaggot could come up with

[Anonymous No.4934456]

new sketch

cute?
should I finish?

[Anonymous No.4934484]

>>4934456
Thought it was a giant tit at first lol. It has good movement. Are you going to tighten down the sketch?

[Anonymous No.4934502]

>>4934484
I'm thinking yes

[Anonymous No.4934827]

[Anonymous No.4935213]

>>4928478
>>4928744
Soon enough this world of art will usher in a new era.
Slightly more educated /beg/s.

[Anonymous No.4935219]

>>4928744
bless me

[Anonymous No.4935223]

>>4928744
reroll

[Anonymous No.4935261]

>>4935219
>>4935223
weeb refusing to accept the blessing of more loomis. to be expected sadly.

[Anonymous No.4935271]

>>4928744
ok

[Anonymous No.4935331]

I'm at the end of the road by now, going to copy asses next and then do full body drawings until I'm happy with it, I think my productivity is at a all time low and I need to get my motivation up somehow, hopefully being almost done with these will help me make this last push.

[Anonymous No.4935336]

>>4935331
I definitely need more work on wrinkles, I'm going to touch them again when I draw asses on certain angles where the backsack is visible, I also think once I get to see the fruit of all this effort I've made this past month and a half my motivation will be lifted, fingers crossed.

[Anonymous No.4936783]

>>4935331
>>4935336
Pretty solid copies, in your own versions they kind of .. lack in texture? I guess you can work on that. But good job though!

[Anonymous No.4936794]

>>4928744
ONEGAI

[Anonymous No.4936797]

>>4935336
You'll never have your motivation back because you destroyed your soul by drawing that shit.

[Anonymous No.4937319]

>Popularity is easy guys, you just need to pick a semi-popular franch-

[Anonymous No.4937331]

>>4937319
Seeing this brought so much joy like you wouldn't believe
>All those hashtags
You can practically see the shameless pandering and desperation for attention followed by a crushing realization that nobody gave a shit, I love it.

[Anonymous No.4937336]

>>4937319
Yeah the way people get popularity is honestly unpredictable nonsense, seeing as even with all your(?) tags you got 23 likes. I've seen fully-rendered fanart of popular characters made by accounts with more than 1k followers on DeviantArt get less favs than fanart I've made of the same characters, and I have like 300 followers. On the flipside everyone everywhere seems to have thousands of followers with no effort, doing nothing very different from what I do, and much of my art gets like, under 20 likes on Twitter.

[Anonymous No.4937351]

>>4937319
>Not turning to idolcancer in you time of need.
Sucks to be you anon. Or not you, who knows.

[Anonymous No.4937421]

>>4937319
Is this yours?
I've seen some people say you shouldn't add too much text to a post when publishing a drawing. Maybe it's bullshit. Maybe it's not.
Honestly I gave up trying to figure twitter/ig

[Anonymous No.4937433]

>>4937319
Redraw this so the head is 20% smaller, the tiddies three times the size and you'll get 12x the likes, 3/5 times it works every time

[Anonymous No.4937435]

>>4937319
thats 23 times mnore than me

[Anonymous No.4937436]

>>4937319
Try pandering to hololive, I used Mori's art tag and got 120 likes in a day even though i have 5 followers

[Anonymous No.4937441]

>>4937319
Is this a joke? 23 likes and 4 retweets is popular. Imagine all those with 0 and bots.

[Anonymous No.4937443]

>>4928744

[Anonymous No.4937513]

Which japanese books in the op have helped you guys? There's so many to choose from

[Anonymous No.4937516]

>>4937513
None of them, clearly.

[Anonymous No.4937948]

what the fuck, I just logged onto twitter and like 90% of my tweets are just not on my profile anymore. has this happened to anyone else?

[Anonymous No.4937991]

>>4937441
>Is this a joke? 23 likes and 4 retweets is popular. Imagine all those with 0 and bots.
Just cause there's many with 0 doesn't mean 23 likes is a nice number. You'll want at least a few hundred per non-pandering piece to feel good, and upwards of a thousand when you make stuff that's popular and trending.

[Anonymous No.4937993]

>>4937948
Not 90% but it's erased tweets going back a few days yeah. Seems Twitter is fucked for everyone right now.

[Anonymous No.4937996]

>>4937991
>my art gets more than 800 notes on tumblr, couple thousand upvotes on leddit and about 4 likes on twitter
Why....

[Anonymous No.4938095]

>>4937513
loomis

[Anonymous No.4938123]

>>4927010
1-3 seems to be original, rough trace and detailed, but what's with 4-6?

[Anonymous No.4938158]

>>4928744
Priestess I believe you friend wants guidance.

[Anonymous No.4938223]

posted a rougher version of this in /beg/ about an hour ago and haven't gotten a response, thought i'd post here too. how can i improve this sketch?

[Anonymous No.4938229]

>>4938223
the "nose" is just a spot for me to remember to colour differently btw

[Anonymous No.4938246]

>>4935261
that wasnt me noob

[Anonymous No.4938322]

>>4938223
idk why but her face looks like a meth addict

[Anonymous No.4938538]

I'm really, really starting that "1000 trace paper" thing.
My city only sells them at 100 packs
Thanks anons

[Anonymous No.4938544]

>>4938538
I forgot all about that. I never finished my 1000 pages.

[Anonymous No.4938812]

>>4938538
What's that thing exactly?
"Trace 1000 drawings and become a master"?

[Anonymous No.4938814]

>>4924241
It is, but the problem is more that the body is stiff and blocky. Put a little more of a twisty look to it

[Anonymous No.4938907]

>>4938538
>traces one thousand drawings
I get that you're striking for mileage but if cant remember how to draw any of it from imagination
you're are quite seriously NGMI. Nevertheless please post your journey.

[Anonymous No.4940461]

>>4938544
>>4938812
>>4938907
I have already 20 sheets to start over
I'm not going to just do one per page but try to fill every page with stuff
My mother in law has a lot of those house magazines and plants magazines so I will be set for that tho

Also they were fucking expensive like holy sheet
It will cost me like a 100 bucks for the 1000 sheets but it doesn't matter I'LL DEWIT

[Anonymous No.4940630]

>>4937996
Twitter feels like it ranges from absolutely NO attention, to insane attention overload. Deviantart, Newgrounds, other sites like that feel more consistent. I think it's because Twitter isn't made for art, so you quite literally have to rely on words, hashtags, and the mercy of retweets, whereas those other sites show your art to randoms regardless of how popular you personally are (DA) or else they have so few uploads a day that people always find your new art (NG). That's my experience anyway. I got 200 likes on some fanart then like 5 on other fanart/original art on Twitter and it makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.4940670]

I wanna study lining out steamy and smokey substances, especially if it comes out of an exhaust.

Can anybody share good examples of that or recommend me a good author on that?

[Anonymous No.4940675]

>>4936797
I destroyed my soul by a month of straight grinding

>>4936783
After I'm done I'm planning on improving my shading skills and also get a better understanding in color theory, my point of all this grinding was to get a good foundation on the style so I can develop it naturally later.

[Anonymous No.4940684]

>>4940461
you can join dad.gallery to keep track of your progress and that will help other anons see if tracing one thousand drawings is a meme or not

[Anonymous No.4940688]

>>4940630
Same! It's really weird and frustrating.

[Anonymous No.4940692]

>>4940461
>100 bucks
20 bucks for a lightbox and 20 bucks for a case of copy paper?

[Anonymous No.4940695]

>>4926134
>Who's that old man?
The absolute state

[Anonymous No.4940745]

how's this pose? I'm thinking about changing up the legs but I need second opinions

[Anonymous No.4940767]

>>4940695
Based Burne, my grandpappy went to one of his anatomy classes.

[Anonymous No.4940796]

>>4940745
legs are off

[Anonymous No.4940799]

>>4940796
forgot image fug

[Anonymous No.4940803]

>>4940796
redline it dumb beg

[Anonymous No.4940807]

>>4940803
it's on the discord, sorry you are not invited to see it sweetie

[Anonymous No.4940814]

>>4940803
>too /beg/ to notice that OP broke her pelvis by accident
embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.4940831]

>>4940799
thanks dude! I had a feeling it looked a bit weird

[Anonymous No.4941125]

just started using my ipad to draw, anybody have any tips for getting more comfortable using a tablet from a pc or should i just draw more?

current sketch on ipad

[Anonymous No.4941159]

>>4938812
Pretty sure it was if you do 1000 pages, you'll definitely get better. It was more to help people who thought they were NGMI and never get better, so they just never drew or drew very little despite wanting to draw.

[Anonymous No.4941170]

>>4933487
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.4941200]

>>4929813

[Anonymous No.4941202]

>>4941125

[Anonymous No.4941866]

>>4940670
>>4940670
>>4940670
>>4940670

[Anonymous No.4942096]

>>4923435
So do I have to get through Vilppu and Loomis, or should I just take modern Japanese guides and run with them? I would certainly have more fun trying to deconstruct anime girls, even if I'll have to study anatomy on the side, but I want to know what I'm missing.

[Anonymous No.4942550]

>>4942096
Since anime heads are not realistic heads I've never seen the sense of grinding loomis, I think that's something people keep saying because they have always said that.
As long as you have a way to construct heads, you will be fine. This does not need to be loomis. But yes you need to understand the underlying concept anyway so brush up on anatomy and stuff.

[Anonymous No.4943975]

Thoughts about my tomboy?

[Anonymous No.4943979]

>>4937319
>people still don't realize its mostly boils down to luck

[Anonymous No.4944225]

When it comes to copy grinding, my current approach has been using Loomis heads/other basic anatomy as a sort of rough base then drawing on top of that - trying to see how my favourite artists stylise and build up their shape, forms, etc. Is this a good approach?

[Anonymous No.4944299]

An attempt at copying

[Anonymous No.4944364]

>>4944299
At least finish it before you post it. You sound like such a loser calling it an attempt like you wanted to fail.

[Anonymous No.4944375]

How bad is that?

[Anonymous No.4944409]

>>4944299
This head is a bad example from ZOL and very obviously fucked to even my beg eyes.
ZOL is great, but some of his drawings are duds, very hit or miss kind of artist, probably doesn't care as much as he should when he does mistakes or maybe his schedule is super tight..
You should only copy the best of the best, for Lilith pictures preferably the key arts of keys characters, the cover pictures, the dakis etc will usually have the best quality, don't just use any random drawings otherwise you might learn the wrong things from them.

[Anonymous No.4944415]

>>4944375
could be worse
change your pen brush type cause it's mad ugly
don't draw lines under the eyes unless you want them to look tired

[Anonymous No.4944466]

>>4944415
I actually wanted her to look tired. Thanks for the tip, but i do really like rough pencil in CSP. Might be i should change it...

[Anonymous No.4944470]

>>4944364
I'm sorry for being a loser, you fag.

>>4944409
Thanks for the advice. Honestly I just liked the character design a lot but I'll try and use a better example next time. How could copying from something like this be?

[Anonymous No.4944774]

I'm invested in learning anatomy for literally every part of the body but the head? Does realistic anatomy even translate to the anime face template? The standard head seems flat and doesn't work well in 3d and I'm scared if I grind asaro ill fuck up the stylistization

[Anonymous No.4944789]

>>4944470
Yeah that'll work, I'm just warning you that sometimes even the super pros have bad days and you gotta be careful not to learn from subpar drawings especially if you're really just beginning. With that said don't worry too much, you'll eventually "see" what's actually good and what isn't yourself.

[Anonymous No.4944821]

>>4944774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMUYG1hkY5c

[Anonymous No.4945171]

>>4944774
I studied Asaro a lot back then and it only helped me undertand why anime faces are stylized as they are. When watching anime I couldn't help but to see things differently.
Don't worry. Learning never goes to waste.

[Anonymous No.4945189]

>>4944466
The pencil itself isn't the problem, it's that you're laying the lines down a bit too thin for your choice of coloring. You can see the white gaps underneath the scratchy line. Either make the lineart a bit thicker by laying it down a bit more or use a harder brush.

[Anonymous No.4945320]

>>4944375
>>4944466
> i do really like rough pencil in CSP. Might be i should change it...

You don't have to change it anon, you just have to thicken it as >>4945189 says. I really enjoy using pencil brushes myself, since it leads to a really light-feeling lineart, especially when you throw in some flats or colors. Pic attached is an example of how I do it; you just need to thicken your lines to the point where there's enough pixels for the lines and the color to really meet and merge with one-another. Make sure the pencil you're using isn't too rough if you're putting down color though, because otherwise the lines and color won't meet properly that way either.

[Anonymous No.4945463]

Japanese pros are using morpho. What's your excuse?
https://twitter.com/nikumarusuisann/status/1318007641591836672

[Anonymous No.4945464]

>>4945463
>pros
>1 guy
>50 likes

[Anonymous No.4945465]

[Anonymous No.4945466]

>>4945464
50k followers and he has a serialized manga. What's your excuse now?

[Anonymous No.4945472]

>>4945466
You didn't debunk my post, but.
>already pro without it
>hasn't shown the fruits of labor

[Anonymous No.4945477]

>>4945472
It's almost like you're out to crab yourself.

[Anonymous No.4945483]

>>4945477
Can't crab if haven't made it and not going to make it for at least 5+ years. I appreciate the tweet though. Just try shilling better next time.

[Anonymous No.4946060]

>>4945465
Did you make this? It's good.
The eyes don't seem to match though and it bothers me a bit.

[Anonymous No.4946083]

>>4945465
what was your blog again?

[Anonymous No.4946459]

STUDY AFTER かわぬま_うおつり
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=kawanuma_uotsuri

[Anonymous No.4946714]

>>4945465
cute zelda

[Anonymous No.4946883]

>>4945463
What is morpho? Is that in the OP?

[Anonymous No.4947026]

>>4946459
blog?

[Anonymous No.4947258]

>>4923435
What's your favorite resource for learning how to draw eyes? I really need to start grinding these shits.

[Anonymous No.4947284]

>>4947258
>What's your favorite resource
My favorite artist's drawings.

[Anonymous No.4947287]

>>4947258
1- learn the basic construction of human eyes
2- analyze how good anime artists draw them
3- ?
4 - profit

[Anonymous No.4947459]

>>4928744
rool

[Anonymous No.4947561]

>>4947258
>Have stream where someone draws an eye.
>Copy it.
>It looks bad.
>This extends to everything else too.

[Anonymous No.4947576]

>>4947026

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/1551752

you just need to register on pixiv to see the R18 stuff

[Anonymous No.4947596]

>>4928744
Roll

[Anonymous No.4947694]

>>4928744
please..please let me make it..

[Anonymous No.4947818]

>>4947258


for me was...feeling the form, once you find the forms is easier to construct and having a mental picture to follow and feel instead of relying too much on construction, at the beginning it's not bad to use construction but it should be used mostly to study i think.
heres how i try to think of when i drawing eyes, even when you draw really stylized eyes or anything with barely any form you still base they form on human anatomy so uhh that helped too i guess... ugh...

heres a pic i stole from /beg/

[Anonymous No.4947933]

Trying to figure out soft shading, I think my problem is I over-blend so I lose all the hard edges but I'm not sure where to stop (besides obvious things like cast shadows.)

[Anonymous No.4948467]

Wip

[Anonymous No.4948538]

>>4947933
I think you need to draw the line between one or the other at this point while you're still shaky on the shading department. That said I think the shading on the shirt turned out pretty nice here while the skin and hair parts are not so good. I recommend looking at an artist you like that does the shading style you're looking for and emulate that.

[Anonymous No.4948554]

>>4947818
>feeling the form feel the form feel the form feel the form
HOW the FUCK do I start feeling forms????

[Anonymous No.4948583]

>>4948554
Draw geometry on human face

[Anonymous No.4948630]

>>4948538
Aw, I'm kinda happy with the hair, but yeah the skin I think looks awful. I actually followed this pretty closely (even color-picked the skin tones) but I couldn't emulate his brushwork.

https://youtu.be/72oNHf_4Xgk

[Anonymous No.4949178]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUOfA5MwWmU
It's interesting to see more championing of tracing as a practice method, I'm gonna try this book later

[Anonymous No.4949188]

>>4949178
Tracing sounds like such a pain, I would have to buy so many materials to do it and I don't know if digital tracing would even reap half the benefits.

[Anonymous No.4949251]

>>4933487
>You definitely need to fix your understanding on the perspective on eyes
You still have to work on that too, apparently. In your "fixed" drawing, the eyes aren't the same size.
Low quality critiques are usually repetitive in the "___ is too ___" format.

[Anonymous No.4949457]

>>4948630
The way you did the higlights in the hair doesn't match with how you did the shading. It's not the worst thing, I just think it's a bit all over the place. The inconsistency hurts the piece. But that's just my opinion.

As for the video, the artist does shade on the softer side of things but there's still defined sections of where the light and shadows are. But there's almost no hard edges while your piece still has some. If you're gonna commit to the style you should study it more and go all the way to fully emulating it down to the brushwork.

[Anonymous No.4949494]

>>4949457
Yeah I just slapped it on there at the last second because I realized I didn't have any highlights at all.

I did try; here was an earlier attempt that I abandoned because I thought it was losing the form, and I started over with more hard edges. Shit, looking at it now that everything else is in place, I like it more.

[Anonymous No.4949511]

What are some useful resources to learn rendering? I feel like im not getting it.

[Anonymous No.4950072]

[Anonymous No.4950082]

>>4950072
Foot is alright, but her skull is quite misshapen, and you REALLY need to work on your line confidence. Work traditionally with only pen for a while so you're forced to think about where you place your lines.

[Anonymous No.4950083]

>>4949511
How to render.pdf

[Anonymous No.4950288]

[Anonymous No.4950305]

>>4949511
Scott Robertson's how to render. Just skim through and read the interesting parts. Then watch as many workflows of your fave artists as possible

[Anonymous No.4950309]

>>4950288
Using CSP's 3d models will show you how the figure looks in perspective as well as automagically generating the grid. Then you can gather refs to make it pop. You can also lock brush strokes to the grid so I suggest putting the x/y/z locking enable and disable for perspective grids in the CSP toolbar.

[Anonymous No.4950408]

>>4950288
bro what is that resolution

[Anonymous No.4950467]

>>4950408
10kx10k

[Anonymous No.4950474]

>>4950467
why

[Anonymous No.4950477]

>>4950474
because I can

[Anonymous No.4950479]

>>4950474
Not them but A) CSP can easily handle large res lineart, I myself draw 7k x 10k. B) If you're going to be liquifying eg in PS, resizing, rescaling anything etc large canvas gives you a great margin for making your lineart fuckery changes indistinguishable.

[Anonymous No.4950493]

Hello, I was told to ask here.
I haven't improved since the middle of this year in fact I think I've gotten worse in some aspects.
I've been working on my anatomy, linework, gesture, and perspective. I'm not sure why but I haven't improved at all.
I'm not sure what I'm stuck at could you guys help me out?

[Anonymous No.4950496]

>>4950493
Also I've gone through fun with a pencil, figure drawing and invention and figure drawing for all it's worth.

[Anonymous No.4950508]

>>4923435

[Anonymous No.4950519]

>>4950493
More gesture and more pose practice from real life bodies. The realism of the joints is still lacking. You need to be so good at gesture and poses that you can draw from imagination or 3d poses. Or be able to rotate mentally, so you'll need more perspective for sure. Then you'll need colour, environments etc. style's good though and it's perfect fot social media.

[Anonymous No.4950525]

>>4950519
Ok thank you. I'll work on gesture and poses.
What about anatomy, should I work on that too or should I focus on gestures and poses first?

[Anonymous No.4950625]

Does it worth finishing? Could you point me where i messed up the sketch, pls.

[Anonymous No.4950628]

>>4950625
Might be I shell go to /beg/..

[Anonymous No.4950956]

>>4950525
Maybe a little anat for joints.

[Anonymous No.4951033]

>>4950525
Your anatomy is lacking, but as the other guy suggested, draw from real life rather then try read a book about it, you'll pick up information about it along the way.

You certainly improved quite a bit, if you want a specific area to work on I would suggest your neck and torso connection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XlmiutwITE

>>4950625
Got to learn to finish illustrations, can't just keep drawing and not attempt the last steps. Broadsword is horribly off, looks like it will go her left but it goes behind her. With that grip, hands go behind each other especially when you have enough handle and a heavy object.

Those mistakes are forgivable. What I hate the most is the same face which you look like you copied pasted. Even with the poor ear placement and jaw connection, you should be ashamed for same facing especially when the head is facing different directions.

[Anonymous No.4951057]

[Anonymous No.4951505]

im fucking /beg/.... jesus fuck i want to die

[Anonymous No.4951938]

Silly question but how much detail should I put into drawing characters?
Like do I include the line from the illium crest or the bottom curve of the ribcage, or the sternocleidomastoid?
I only know that when drawing hands for females you should try reductions when you can and avoid furrows.
I'm not too sure this applies to feet, but I've heard that you avoid as much bumps as possible for females

[Anonymous No.4952076]

>>4950083
>>4950305
Thanks

[Anonymous No.4952146]

>>4951033
Thanks for opinion. I always take refs but this one was from my head, I think it's quite early for me to drow poses from imagination, but I wanted to try. I also think that books can be helpful, but basically I drow for pleasure. I did some lining upon the sketch, hope it looks better. You are right, I need more anatomy practice.

[Anonymous No.4952224]

New Thread:
>>4952223
>>4952223
>>4952223

[Anonymous No.4952270]

>>4946060
yep thanks, I've had issue with anime eyes for a while, its the part that takes me longer
>>4946083
https://twitter.com/ruuu_ran_ran

[Anonymous No.4952795]

>>4951938
ayy

[Anonymous No.4953154]

>>4924987
girl on the left looks like she's melting

some people on /d/ would probably get off to that