/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4913610]

Redpill me on SAI Version 2

[Anonymous No.4913614]

>>4913610
i still prefer clip studio

[Anonymous No.4913617]

>>4913610
CSP for Linework
PS for anything painterly
SAI/2 for Rei17 type blending.

[Anonymous No.4913618]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqLsmlUdHt0

[Anonymous No.4913619]

>>4913617
you can blend fine on other softwares too

[Anonymous No.4913621]

I downloaded it for free.
My lines keep fading out for no reason and its also lagging.
Is this normal or is it just on illegal versions?

[Anonymous No.4913629]

>>4913617
CSP is singlethreaded and runs like shit

PS is boomercore with sod all key mapping flexibility.

Krita achieves almost everything from smooth responsive lineart to advanced painterly brushes, however it hasnt yet got a sai tier magic wand or blending engine

[Anonymous No.4913732]

Feels good to draw animushit in, lightweight and smooth. But yeah, it's not for painerly looks though there's been slight improvements in that direction.

[Anonymous No.4913736]

>>4913629
>CSP is singlethreaded and runs like shit
What really?!

[Anonymous No.4913881]

>>4913736
Yes. If you have a copy of it, open it up and try the transform tool out. See how it goes. Or just make any canvas over 2x2k, grab a brush with low spacing and a size of 300< and put a few strokes down. If you want a real headache, try one of the smudge tools at that size.

[Anonymous No.4913971]

>>4913629
Krita and sai blow ass with anything 2k+ pixels so no thanks

[Anonymous No.4913982]

>>4913971
Simply wrong. Krita will tank depending on the tool, albeit to a far lesser degree than CSP. Sai/Sai 2 can handle large files easily, however sai 1 suffers from being 32 bit so having many layers will tank your editing/overlay transformation. But using a large brush in Sais works absolutely fine.

[Anonymous No.4913992]

>>4913971
Hearsay. Sai handles big canvases very well, especially compared to CSP or PS.
>>4913629
>CSP is singlethreaded and runs like shit
Well considering you use words like "boomercore" and that you're maining Krita, I'm guessing you used some sort of pirated version of CSP. In that case yes, the software becomes unreliable and slow.
>>4913617
spbp

[Anonymous No.4913993]

>>4913992
I bought it full price, actually. Its single threaded. My guess is that the users just havent compared it to anything else/dont know any different.

[Anonymous No.4914001]

>>4913992
I used the term boomercore because its actually an accurate term for Photoshop. Its capable enough, dont get me wrong, but its simply not the amazing gamewinner it used to be, and it hasnt developed accordingly. You cant even map your own key bindings. I posted on their forum about it and you get the usual "oh but you dont need to be able to do that, just work around it" crap, as if its a small price to pay to use the holy photoshop when simply superior art programs exist, for both free or with a single purchase. Absolute cringe, but as I said, its mostly boomers who use it because it was the main workhorse back when they started.

[Anonymous No.4914006]

>>4913982
i have i9 9900k and rtx 2060 super and krita does sometimes lag even at sub 2k
i use basic 2 opacity brush and sometimes the rendering of the line itself is like half a second behind my pen
and every time i try to draw with mouse it draws ngons instead of curves this also disables the pens pressure and tilt and when i want to go back to the pen and i have to restart krita
i really dont want to go back to photoshop to not be reliant on it and the lag doesnt happen that often but yeah krita is pretty crappy
i really hope krita will eventually become a more usable and reliant software

[Anonymous No.4914060]

>>4914006
Record it with OBS and post. I find that very hard to believe, unless you have some old bootleg release from god knows when.

[Anonymous No.4914068]

It’s good

[Anonymous No.4914092]

>>4913617
FireAlpaca for life

[Anonymous No.4914095]

>>4914060
well fuck me it was kinda my fault
when i tried to record it i used duplicate screen mode (tablet and display same screen) and none of those bugs happened
then i realized i switch a lot between extended and duplicate screen mode while krita is running and that was the cause of the weird behavior
well in my defense ive been using krita for about two weeks
thanks for making me realize this

[Anonymous No.4914103]

>>4914095
no worries fren

happy drawing

[Anonymous No.4914311]

>>4913881
Photoshop shits itself in those scenarios too

[Anonymous No.4915028]

>>4914311
Photoshop is also bloatware, but it does not tank with brushes at that canvas size. The water blending tool will, but not ordinary stamp brushes.
The transformation procedure is also smooth, unlike the powerpoint presentation you get while transforming in csp

[Anonymous No.4915076]

>>4913617
>SAI/2 for Rei17 type blending.

When Rei17 used to use Sai she pretty much just use the Sai equivalent to the hard round brush. She didn't really use textures or even use any of Sai's special color blending or anything. It was pure skill

You can get the same type of brush in any program by enabling flow pen pressure and low brush spacing

[Anonymous No.4915078]

>>4913621
just illegal versions

[Anonymous No.4915115]

>>4913610
Sai's recovery tool makes me coom so hard. I've never lost anything ever again.

[Anonymous No.4915164]

>>4915028
Photoahop is only good for liquify and color indexing among bilinear shrinking for spriting. for EVERYTHING else CSP does it well and enough.

[Anonymous No.4915200]

>>4915028
>but not ordinary stamp brushes
First, no duh, the basic stamp brushes don't do color blending like CSP default brushes do. And yes they will, by default their spacing is >=5%, turn it down and zoom around your canvas, it will definitely lag behind your cursor.

Also I tested transform and saw around 8% for CSP and 20% for Photoshop. CSP likely uses at least two threads since I have a 2700X (16 threads) but the programming probably isn't great and the work is split unevenly. Photoshop likely uses 4, and it's smoother but not as smooth as it should be.

[Anonymous No.4915202]

>>4915164
Photoshop also shows the brush outline for custom brushes, which is unironically a key feature

[Anonymous No.4915208]

please stop fighting guys, this is a thread about SAI2

[Anonymous No.4915681]

>>4913610
Good for old notebooks/PCs

[Anonymous No.4915695]

post saiv2 brushes that you like
here are the ones i like the most. im still a /beg/ so theyre probably horrible

[Anonymous No.4915701]

>>4915695
i also sketch at 80% opacity and i use a slightly purple-black color to sketch

[Anonymous No.4915790]

i've only used SAI 1 since i started
is it worth going to SAI 2? what's different?

[Anonymous No.4915838]

>>4915790
Its 64 bit and thus can use far more of your ram. Allows for seamless work with large numbers of layers and complex operations ontop of them. It has text tools, construction guidelines, a new scatterbrush engine, far more toolslots. Im definitely missing some but those are the main ones for me. What bums me out is that you still cant have a darker theme for the window. The harsh white fucks with my value judgement

[Anonymous No.4915909]

>>4914001
Describes me perfectly. I'd actually love to check out another program sometime but my brain has calcified around the tools and brushes I know.

[Anonymous No.4916064]

>>4915701
Why don't you just use an airbrush for sketching

[Anonymous No.4916097]

>>4915695
I use this for everything

[Anonymous No.4916415]

>>4913629
>Krita achieves almost everything
except for a good pen stabilizer.

[Anonymous No.4916786]

>>4913610
why is this shit so weird? why isn't there a place i just go and pay for it and it downloads
someone put all the drawing software on steam or something seriously

[Anonymous No.4916795]

>>4913881
And I thought it was my shitty PC, fuck.

[Anonymous No.4916835]

>>4916415
I dont follow. It works fine. Its not as streamlined as sais, simply because there are so many settings you can alter and the default isnt like sais. If you have a modern tablet you only need to use the basic setting anyway.

[Anonymous No.4917353]

>>4913617
I never liked SAI's blending, it looks dull compared to other software.
It must be the brush engine, because the airbrush is just a slightly blured round brush.

[Anonymous No.4917699]

>>4916097
>size 60
>min size 70%
how fuggin big is your canvas? 100,000x100,000 pixels?

[Anonymous No.4917704]

Where do I get SAI 2?

[Anonymous No.4917716]

Sai 2 is for filthy thieves who couldn't figure out how to get the 1st one for free.

[Anonymous No.4917728]

>>4913619
>>4915076
SAI blends the most smoothly out of any software I know. I think you will not be getting the blending in any other program, imo.
>>4913621
Update your driver and disable windows ink on your tablet. Only photoshop needs windows ink to perform the best on line strokes. SAI should never ever lag.
>>4913629
CSP is extremely fast and only lags on large brushes honestly. And you're wrong, literally everything in existence can be mapped in PS key preferences.
>>4913736
I usually run CSP on like an 8000x6000 canvas and it never lags except on big brushes.
>>4913881
I think your computer's kinda bad.
>>4913971
>>4913992
I mean, SAI's basically for the lowest of lowest end PCs you might need to upgrade.
>>4914001
Again, you can map your keybindings but if you haven't figured out why you need to use PS you don't need it period.
>>4914006
If you can run PS I'd highly recommend using PS because it has the most in terms of brushes from pros (so you don't have to waste time trying to mimic dual brush hue jitter tilt on rotation textured brushes), extensions, adjustment layers, smart objects, liquify and all the 3D features are all neat.
>>4915028
PS actually does tank hard if you have insufficient RAM but you have to use one of the latest updates which fixes it. Mostly. But apply a few insane history states like flipping every layer and PS lags like hell. However, its featureset is too amazing to let go of.
>>4915164
There are lots of PS hidden features.
>>4915200
I think CSP's way more efficient for the work that it does but it's not a surprise that PS uses more because it's bloated.
>>4915790
SAI 2 has a lot more features and I highly recommend getting a copy. It's a straight upgrade compared to SA1.
>>4916415
>>4916835
I have to say a good pen stabiliser is pretty damn essential. Both SAI and CSP have really good ones. I haven't used Krita but the brush engine might be modular enough to make it worthwhile

[Anonymous No.4917781]

>>4917728
autism : the post

[Anonymous No.4917782]

>paint around 15k regularly for work
>every other engine cant handle the res and layers
photoshop it is

[Anonymous No.4917963]

I'm a retard who has no idea what I'm doing, what free/easy to pirate drawing program is best for lineart?

[Anonymous No.4917973]

>>4917728

First of all, you're a faggot for mass replying.

Second of all, >literally everything in existence can be mapped in PS key preferences.

wrong, you cant bind functions to anything other than a ctrl combination. Try and bind undo to Z.

>I think your computer's kinda bad.
Its probably stronger than yours. But its a ryzen CPU, which means that its not going to do as well for single threaded software.

>but if you haven't figured out why you need to use PS you don't need it period.

Drop the attitude you little prick. Liquify and channel editing are features present in other software. Many PS users dont even use them anyway.

[Anonymous No.4918000]

I got Corel Painter Essential 7 for free when i bought a tablet, how does it compare to SAI CSP or PS?

[Anonymous No.4918054]

>>4917963
Paint tool SAI
You can simply get it by just typing on youtube
"Paint tool sai Mediafire"
and you can find a shit ton of tutorials on how to use it on youtube
you get how layers and brushes and shit works then you move on to more complex tutorials
but still, SAI is easy to learn and can run on a toaster

[Anonymous No.4918175]

>>4917963
Medibang Pro / Firealpaca are free and almost as good as SAI.
If you want SAI, get the version 2.0 on the official website and then search for a patcher on VK
CSP isn't as easy to use at first, but it has some QOL improvements over free alternatives
I think it's better to pay $25 for it on sale than wait for the crack and manually update it every fucking time

[Anonymous No.4918178]

What stabilizer setting am I supposed to sketch with in SAI? I literally cant decide. Sometimes I use 10. Sometimes I use 2. I'm just retarded or something

[Anonymous No.4918193]

>>4918000
>corel

[Anonymous No.4918195]

>>4918193
well like i said i got it for free so i'm not sure if its any good for drawing or if its fine

[Anonymous No.4918216]

>>4918054
>>4918175
Thanks bros

[Anonymous No.4918474]

>>4918175
>CSP isn't as easy to use at first, but it has some QOL improvements over free alternatives
>round outline for all brushes
I hate CSP but it runs the best imo. Krita and photoshop both shit themselves on any blending/water color brushes