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[Anonymous No.4831176]

Previous Thread: >>4811699

Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others! Don't take anything personal!
Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 1000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

>dA /ic/ group :
http://4chan-ic.deviantart.com

>/ic/ Resources/Reference/Downloads/Links:

>General resources :
http://sites.google.com/site/4chanic/
http://sites.google.com/site/artandwhatnot/
http://characterdesigns.com/
http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-3.html
http://finaltrinity.tumblr.com/post/13163064364/art-references-tumblr-accounts

>fellowBro's books :
http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8

>Figure Drawing Tool:
http://pixelovely.com/gesture/figuredrawing.php
http://posemaniacs.com

[Anonymous No.4831241]

[Anonymous No.4831242]

Don't@me.
I just wanted to post it somewhere.

[Anonymous No.4831250]

>>4831241
Thats incredible. You've got a great balance in this one.

Pic is me, WIP. Trying to draw some DMT feels.

[Anonymous No.4831386]

>>4831241
Yeps, this is fantastic Great values, great simplistic rendering, nice pose, cool concept. All in the bag.

[Anonymous No.4831419]

Today’s thing

[Anonymous No.4831428]

>>4831419
looks awesome anon :)))

>>4831176
to the anon whose pic is in OP, how do you go about starting a piece? i never know how to start, what pose i want to do, what i want to draw, what details my character should have etc. would love to hear from someone good

[Anonymous No.4831430]

>>4831176
will you guys watch this please: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSpgR8r3FvY

[Anonymous No.4831435]

>>4831430
just watched, are you jewish by any chance?

[Anonymous No.4831437]

>>4831435
no I have a rather large nose though why

[Anonymous No.4831441]

>>4831437
its just very degenerate thats all

[Anonymous No.4831447]

>>4831441
ok

[Anonymous No.4831482]

>>4831386
The values and space looks really solid!. The warm to cool vertical gradation is dope.

Pushed a bit the dreamscapes but I'm moving onto another set of cloud focused ones. I've figured some things today but still not quite grasping how to work the clouds in a simple but meaningful way.

[Anonymous No.4831499]

Yooo can I get a redline

[Anonymous No.4831547]

I know it looks stiff trash but I don't know how to fix it

[Anonymous No.4831570]

>>4831547
Learn hands and practice your form to make it symmetrical, here’s a quick redline for the latter

[Anonymous No.4831572]

>>4831547

[Anonymous No.4831611]

>>4831572
please don't

[Anonymous No.4831660]

>>4831430
That sucked shit. Don't ask why, because you should know who you're trying to copy.

[Anonymous No.4831665]

[Anonymous No.4831688]

>>4831660
you sound angery

[Anonymous No.4831744]

>>4831572
no

[Anonymous No.4831751]

wip, but the figure is mainly finished.

[Anonymous No.4831777]

>>4831688
Your creation sucks.

[Anonymous No.4831911]

[Anonymous No.4831958]

>>4831911
Very nice.

[Anonymous No.4831987]

[Anonymous No.4832127]

>>4831777
A lucky crab is always still a crab

[Anonymous No.4832245]

>>4832127
This reply sucks.

[Anonymous No.4832594]

>>4831499
>>4831751
>>4831911
>>4831987
>/beg/

[Anonymous No.4832606]

>>4832594
oh look it's the butthurt /beg/ from the last couple threads.

[Anonymous No.4832609]

>>4832594
Don’t you have some pinkie and the brain cartoons to copy?

[Anonymous No.4832612]

>>4831987
That's pretty solid, if you didn't have the propane hand canon you could probably leverage that into some nice commission work.

[Anonymous No.4832627]

>>4831430
pilotredsun but soulless

[Anonymous No.4832661]

>>4831665
>4832127
cute

>>4832612
i agree take away the interesting element so bland normies will like you

[Anonymous No.4832665]

[Anonymous No.4832690]

>>4832665
She just get out of a scuffle?

[Anonymous No.4832877]

>>4832690
Let's go with that

[Anonymous No.4832990]

>>4832594
The first two posts sure, but two bottome ones are starting to look clean.

[crux No.4833036]

>>4831428
thanks for chosing my pic for the drawthread, also thanks for the kindwords!

For this one I started with a solid ref so it was really easy. For what you want to draw, I suggest just spending a bit of time researching before doing a new picture. Dont be afraid to look for tons of references, especially if its a subject you havent done before.
Once you have that solid library, just start picking parts of things you like in each image and build a coherent design

>>4831241
Very cool but I think the design of the head needs to be pushed more. maybe have a but of that red crest on top of the head, and some color in the eye ( gold maybe) I just feel like the head is one of the last part you look at.
>>4831482
yeap thats what I was about to say! Some really nice things happening here (love the girl on the right!) but I think your brushwork needs to be more efficient in general, and it shows the most in the clouds. I think clouds study will be really useful to you !

[Anonymous No.4833066]

Dumping stome studies, focusing on having proper non-stiff poses.

[Anonymous No.4833067]

^ more

[Anonymous No.4833086]

Quick sketch from ref.

[Anonymous No.4833087]

more ^

[Anonymous No.4833102]

>4829380

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNiaMmGfmzw

You should watch this.. :D

[Anonymous No.4833103]

>>4829380

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNiaMmGfmzw

You might want to watch this pal. :D Beg is a good place to start.

[Anonymous No.4833110]

>>4831250
>>4831386
thanks guys, wasnt really sure about the colors but im glad you guys liked it :)
>>4833036
normally i would mate, but theres some design constraints that are going on here. namely that this creature normally wears a massive cloak so the body is usually hidden for the most part, so making the head area more too complicated isnt really an option, pic related. i do appreciate the input though

[Anonymous No.4833217]

WIP. struggling to draw hands

[Anonymous No.4833306]

>>4833217
>WIP. struggling to draw hands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uEtdDvK6Xo

Should help.

You are just trying to copy the shape of a hand and fingers without understanding the form at all. Same goes for everything you are drawing, you just get away with it by drawing stylized faces and such.

Try drawing hands in 3D form using basic shapes.

[Anonymous No.4833370]

can I get a critique on the color before I continue?

[Anonymous No.4833490]

>>4833306
thank you!

[Anonymous No.4833495]

>>4833370
I can't even tell what this is supposed to be

[crux No.4833526]

study, still need to fix a couple things but my patience is running out lul. I will probably use it as base for some designs.

[Anonymous No.4833548]

>>4833495
they're still rough shapes, I want to get the right color and value first before moving on and clarify the forms

[Anonymous No.4833588]

[Anonymous No.4833597]

>>4833526
gross why u drawing negros for

[Anonymous No.4833679]

>>4833526
Looks great.
>>4833588
Looks sick. Really nice rendering. Red eyes gross me out on a molecular scale.
>>4833087
>>4833067
>>4833066
Doing great. Love all the various poses.

[Anonymous No.4833708]

>>4833103
Jesus Christ still going at it? Move on.

[Anonymous No.4833806]

>>4832627
do you have any thoughts on where it misses the boat? is the idea cool or interesting to you? i havent written much and it might be obvious

[Anonymous No.4833837]

trying to apply some studies to a face doodle from imagination

[Anonymous No.4833855]

[Anonymous No.4833936]

>>4833855
thats sick i like the textures you used

[Anonymous No.4833937]

[Anonymous No.4833967]

Some of you guys are out-landishly and other-worldly amazing. Like you're divine beings from another planet. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.4834107]

[Anonymous No.4834505]

Another one for my housemate to colour in so no shading intentionally.

My gripe with fine liners is it's difficult to get varied line weight that looks natural so I don't bother.

[Anonymous No.4834516]

Rough sketch stuff whole waiting for files to save at work

[Anonymous No.4834846]

[Anonymous No.4834850]

[Anonymous No.4834899]

I'm studying from Loomis' head and hands book. please give me feedback or let me know what you think.
>>4834846
>>4834850
looks awesome, the textures are spot on. very fluffy!

[Anonymous No.4834905]

I'm studying from Loomis' head and hands book. please give me feedback or let me know what you think.
>>4834846
>>4834850
looks awesome, the textures are spot on. very fluffy!

[Anonymous No.4834910]

>>4834846

>>4834850

Nice I like this. Pretty good depth given that there's no shading. Was this a study?

[Anonymous No.4834915]

Began as a large movement stream of consciousness warm up and turned out pretty ok. That ear is shocking though but I didn't want to get too precious

[Anonymous No.4834920]

[Anonymous No.4834926]

>>4834905
Thank you!

>>4834910
Yep, they're studies for a painting I'm hoping to do

[Anonymous No.4834929]

[Anonymous No.4834932]

[Anonymous No.4834935]

These were a small series I did while I was in a low spot

[Anonymous No.4834936]

[Anonymous No.4834937]

>>4834935
Worth mentioning very inspired by Junji Ito

[Anonymous No.4835043]

>>4831176
>downsized to around 1000 pixels wide
why? why the hell does that matter?

[Anonymous No.4835081]

[Anonymous No.4835174]

>>4834920
Stylish.

[Anonymous No.4835235]

>>4835043
Images open too large on the browser. It's nicer for the ones viewing your works.

[Anonymous No.4835237]

>>4835043
It sucks that some posters are too lazy to crop their images, so we have to open it in a new tab and ctrl scroll away to see the full image, when OP could just save their JPG in max 1000 pixels in height so we'd see the full image without scrolling trough 3 pages.

[Anonymous No.4835263]

>>4835043
Here's the diff:

>>4833588
Uncropped, opens huge. Hard to see the whole image.

>>4835081
Well cropped, you can see the full image in just one page.

[Anonymous No.4835339]

I have some composition problem here.
I didn't take the action lines into account when I started this, and now they lead to nothing in particular?
Do I add something where they converge or remove the lines somehow?

[Anonymous No.4835418]

>>4833370
This is really hard to read, practice two value imo so you're forced to consider clarity and form in how you place shadow shapes. As is it's too confusing to give criticism on. Also remember, sometimes it's okay to forfeit realistic shadows for image clarity; art isn't reality and if you paint a confusing photo 1:1, you'll still have a confusing drawing

[Anonymous No.4835423]

>>4834936
ngl that's a very attractive face

[Anonymous No.4835453]

>>4835263
its not 2009 anymore, all browsers resize the image automatically. what are you actually fucking retarded?

[Anonymous No.4835494]

>>4835339
is there a story reason why that side of the house needs to be completely empty?
ime side alleys have all kinds of shit piled up against their walls. bikes, construction materials, posters, trash cans etc
use that to break up the horizon and direct the veiwer towards your focal point.

[Anonymous No.4835501]

>>4835453
You're the retarded one if you have the automatically opens images in new page -setting on.

[Anonymous No.4835510]

>>4835339
the completely straight 90 degree angles of that garage door box stand out way too much. like a cartoon character pasted onto a photograph.

[Anonymous No.4835522]

>>4835494
I'm now thinking that I might add some characters into it.
Would adding trash and more content to the left side of the image help?

>>4835510
As for the 90 degree angles, do you mean the all of the door or the planks themselves?
The angle is just what it looks in the 3D render I made as a base. (Pic related)

[Anonymous No.4835525]

>>4835453
Beg leaking again. Would love to see how a retard like yourself draws.

[Anonymous No.4835528]

>>4835522
Stick to training mate. Your skills are at such a low level that you shouldn't get stuck on one piece which is kind of fucked from the beginning. Trying to eat a too big piece at once.

Your perspective needs some serious work.

[Anonymous No.4835582]

can someone tell me what they think?

[Anonymous No.4835595]

>>4835582
who are they?

[Anonymous No.4835597]

has anyone seen asukafag????? haven't seen him in a week now, i'm worried he got coronachan

[Anonymous No.4835598]

>>4835595
a family friend

[Anonymous No.4835607]

>>4835598
i don't know what they think

[Anonymous No.4835684]

>>4835582
/beg/

[Anonymous No.4835776]

>>4835684
Damn. So its total shit? What about this under sketch?

[Anonymous No.4835791]

>>4835776
the mid of the face needs to be shrunk down (the head overall is too long) since the nose being as long as it is makes the whole face uncanny. The hair has 0 volume to it so it ends up just looking kind of like clay or chiselled stone; it looks solid. Some styles can pull off something like that but the realism you're going for in the face makes for a poor contrast to simple hair.

[Anonymous No.4835810]

>>4835791
Not to make excuses but the hair is unfinished, just put in the general shape. The length of the face is an issue, though the subject has a long face and that's why I made it long. Idk how to fix it. I've tried making the bridge of the nose shorter like you suggested but it still looks uncanny. Guess it's just a shit sketch though the persob I showed it to said it was "beautiful" and it means a lot to them so they weren't lying, I guess

[crux No.4835907]

both arent great and dont judge to much the design, but is it more pleasing to look at character on white or dark bg ?

[Anonymous No.4836079]

>>4835776
Poster you replied to here.

Well, in short, yes. But it's not the worst I've seen in here.

Quick tips to keep in mind when you're painting a face:

1) Very light values in the skin > you can and should go darker. Now the value changes in the skin (how light or dark something is) are hardly noticeable. This makes everything look really flat. You can hardly tell that there's a nose which in theory should be closer to the viewer than the cheeks next to it, but you can hardly tell from the image. My english is a bit shite, so sorry if you don't understand what I'm saying.

2) more saturation in the future darker areas you are missing right now.

3) Face is very very long. The nose area is the long part. Just shrink that.


Gotta give props to you for using very dark tones in certain places; the eyes, nostrils and under the chin. But once again - more value changes in the skin.

Also, the linework in the sketch looks really fine, shame it doesn't yet translate into digital. But good luck on your journey! :)

[Anonymous No.4836153]

>>4836079
>linework in sketch looks fine

So you're saying the sketch is good at least right? :(

I'm total shit at digital painting. It doesn't help that my computer is slow as fuck and Photoshop lags every time I try to draw.

[Anonymous No.4836203]

>>4836153
nta, but focus on the interior plane changes more. Learn the anatomy of the head in greater depth. The sketch is fine, but the rendering shows you don't know the form that well

[Anonymous No.4836209]

>>4836153
Poster you replied here.

Well, sorry, not really. The eyes look nice, but other than that it lacks any real three dimensional structure. The linework itself looks nice, but not the piece itself.

Are you a beginner? You got other stuff you can post?

Do you aspire to become a professional artist? If so, what kind?

[Anonymous No.4836211]

>>4835907
White

[Anonymous No.4836214]

30 min cyclops

[Anonymous No.4836235]

>>4836209
No, I've been drawing since I was 5 years old. Has a lot of aspirations of drawing when I was young, but the past few years I stopped pursuing it because of depression, hated my work, etc.

Here's another thing I drew. No references, just drew it from my head. I consider myself above beginner but far from a real pro.

[Anonymous No.4836335]

>>4835525
So you have nothing to say in your defense, great. I don't even know what beg is, I wanted post my art but your retarded ass is stuck in 09. You just keep posting the same rules over and over with no reason for them. What a shitty community. And you wonder why nobody wants to post here.

[Anonymous No.4836347]

Just starting out trying to draw more interesting perspectives and things. Couldn't find any good refs so I ended up eyeballing it. How am I doing do far? Should I just start over?

[Anonymous No.4836350]

>>4836235
Sorry bro you're still beg. You're gonna make it someday

[Anonymous No.4836352]

>>4835907
Can you meet in the middle

[Anonymous No.4836421]

>>4836350
I don't think I am still beg bro....

[Anonymous No.4836461]

[Anonymous No.4836467]

[Anonymous No.4836484]

Fucked up the right hand

[Anonymous No.4836503]

>>4836421
I feel you my dude. I've been drawing since I was a little kid, but I don't feel like I'm anywhere near where I should be. It's not all about technical skill, it's concept, composition and balance etc. The image needs to be interesting more than anything else, visually or conceptually. Which I'm personally terrible at. But I'm not trying to succeed in "art" or anything. I just like drawing

[Anonymous No.4836504]

you like my alien?

[Anonymous No.4836516]

>>4836503
Also as clarification. Technical skill is also still very important. And I don't think I am highly skilled as I have never put much effort into doing studies or practices and stuff. This is something you have to deliberately train. Unless you literally do it Kim Jung ji style and draw literally constantly. But he even has done a fuckton of study

[Anonymous No.4836527]

[Anonymous No.4836539]

[Anonymous No.4836543]

>>4836421
Bro cmon you can't be dunning Kruger this badly

[Anonymous No.4836553]

my first non work drawing in a while

[Anonymous No.4836554]

>>4836504
Not really. It kind of just looks like an ugly human with too many arms. There's actually very little about it that is alien. The uniform is human, his whole appearance is human (albeit a burn victim) his medal (they have medals?) is over where his human heart would be.
Not a very appealing style imo but that's my opinion.
>>4836527
I like this one more. It's pretty grotesque and disturbing. Not a huge fan of your faces, they are just a bit cartoon. But that's my opinion

[Anonymous No.4836567]

>>4836527
It's they eyes, just ditch the circular boring eyes and think of them differently. Fleshy holes with soft balls inside them, muscle around them. Or just do something different with them than what you're doing. Also your perspective is whack and distorted. The tube thing he's stuffed in and the console behind him are going through a fucking time warp

[Anonymous No.4836584]

>>4836543
He needs to stop thinking he's so good, he's probably been told by everyone he knows that his work is really great. And it's certainly better than non drawers. But he is delusional if he thinks his work is going to stop anyone in their tracks. I would say he's not beg but he needs to realise he's not a good as he seems to think he is. Good foundations though, it wouldn't take a lot of practice for him to really pick it up

[Anonymous No.4836589]

>>4836503
I wasted a few years not drawing at all. I wasn't in the right head space. I wasted a lot of time and my art suffered for it.

>>4836543
Just post your work bro.... If you're legit better than me or can give valid crit then I'll agree I'm beg

[Anonymous No.4836613]

>>4836235
Again the dude who'se been replying to you semi-kindly here.

How old are you? You sound youngish.

No, you are not a compleat beginner, and with proper guidance you'd be quite good in a couple of years. This piece you posted is far better than what the first portrait you posted, which lacked structure big time.

>>4836421
This on the otherhand doesn't really resonate with me, nor the other posters. But the reason is that when you draw with compleat dark lines and with line art only, it would be quite essential to know STRUCTURE very well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uEtdDvK6Xo

Good place to start. You seem to love line art, so this is something you should really start to practice, so you could draw everything in lines only, but so that it looks extreamly 3D anyway. At the moment your works lack structure; they don't look like they have much volume. The pussy pick had some, but the rest dont' really have much, especially the portrait.

And when you get the grasp of structure, it's much easier to start painting between the lines in a 3D manner when the form is already there with the lines only.

>>4836584
Don't worry about these comments. You aren't that far from being okayish good, but that's still probably a couple of years worth of training. But if you'd want to be for example a proper artist in a game company or so, it's probably atleast 5 years of proper training.

Yes men are always bad influence.

[Anonymous No.4836634]

>>4836554
>>4836567
what do you think of this one then?

[Anonymous No.4836635]

>>4836613
Bro... I'm already 30. It's over.......

[Anonymous No.4836640]

How do i stop being afraid to start with colors, and not some amalgamation of "greyscale" with overlay color?

[Anonymous No.4836641]

>>4836640

[Anonymous No.4836653]

[Anonymous No.4836655]

>>4836634
I like this one more. The claw closest is a bit wacky, just needs some perspective work. Good stuff though. I would suggest doing some structure work. Build the form with shapes and get some volume in there.

[Anonymous No.4836706]

>>4836655
could you elaborate on the build the form with shape part?

[Anonymous No.4836722]

>>4836706
This very video covers some good topics around gesture and form. The channel is very good. I recommend it
https://youtu.be/xGhYfLQWbp0

[Anonymous No.4836771]

>>4836635
Well, we live to about 80, so I wouldnt say its over at all. Work hard for 5 years and enjoy the rest of your life working on shit you love.

[Anonymous No.4836866]

>>4836722
thanks i'll check it out

[Anonymous No.4837132]

I didn't realise until way too late on this one that the neck is twisted the wrong way for the movement of the hair

[Anonymous No.4837142]

Obligatory stick man

[Anonymous No.4837585]

Am doing some value/ shading studies, I feel like I'm doing really bad any help?
I'm gonna assume the mistake I made is that I need to soften the edges of the core shadow right? Or maybe the core shadow value is way too dark compared to the reflected light.

[crux No.4837674]

>>4836211
thx
>>4836352
I can try !

[Anonymous No.4837676]

[Anonymous No.4837751]

>>4837585
>>4837142
>>4837132
>>4836866
>>4836653
>>4836641
>>4836640
>>4836634
>>4836553
>>4836527
>>4836504
>>4836484
>>4836467
>>4836461

/beg/ af. C'mon guys, you can't be this delusional.

[Anonymous No.4837806]

>>4837751
I can understand the rest but >>4837142
Isnt /beg/.

[Anonymous No.4837811]

>>4837585
Did another one

[Anonymous No.4837831]

>>4837806
Kinda baffling how some peoples artistic eye hasn't developed even this far. This piece is horrendously bad. Not only visually, but it lacks any art fundamentals.

This is something a 13-14 year old beginning artis should be able to create.

[Anonymous No.4837846]

1/2

[Anonymous No.4837849]

>>4837846

2/2

spare time studies

[crux No.4837864]

>>4837846
>>4837849
very solid !
the only thing really is I think you could have a bit more simplification\softness in the hair strands
I did a test and its not super successful but maybe it can give you an idea

[Anonymous No.4837886]

>>4837831
You sound pretty mad. Try to grow eyes. Are you really still shitting up this thread again?

[Anonymous No.4837895]

>>4837886
Its okay to be delusinal, but you won't be finding any work. Gl mate.

[Anonymous No.4837899]

>>4837831
I know it's not amazing stuff. It's very flawed in more ways than it has positives. But I'm just sharing some work my guy. I didn't say I was a professional or even skilled. Who put a crab up your ass, try to be constructive mate.
It's very easy to point fault, but if you actually cared about illustration and improvement you'd point me in a helpful direction. Cunt

[Anonymous No.4837904]

>>4837895
Learn to spell, m8. And pyw

[Anonymous No.4837905]

>>4837899
There's nothing constructive to give when your skill level is so low. You'd have to deconstruct the whole image.

But other than that, I'd just suggest you to start studying for real instead of creating your "own" pieces only.

You kinda forget theres another person on the other end of the screen, so sorry for that. But I was serious when I said this is something a 13-14 year old beginning artist should be able to create -its not a joke or something I said to be mean.

[Anonymous No.4837906]

>>4837899
>>4837904
This dude is the same crab who's still pissed people told him to go to /beg/ or /alt/ for his cartoon art because it lacked fundies and appealing shapes.
Pay no heed to him. Your art looks fine.

[Anonymous No.4837909]

>>4837906
I've only gotten compliments for my art when I've posted it here. I work as a prof concept artist. I might sound rude, but breaking your delusions should help you on the long run if you actually would like to work as a pro artist someday.

>cartoon art

Wrong dude mate.

>Your art looks fine

Yeah, for a 13-year-old.

[Anonymous No.4837913]

>>4837909
Larping this hard. Dude move on. Your art was shit. Stop taking out your inferiority complex on other artists faggot.

[Anonymous No.4837915]

>>4837913
Well, thank god your delusions don't affect my life. The reality will hit you in the face hard.

[Anonymous No.4837918]

>>4837905
There's always something constructive to give. I appreciate that you apologised, anonymity makes it easy to be a dick head.
Not that I feel like I need to clarify, but the drawing I did of the stick guy and the big mouth thing was done after a long period of not drawing at all, months. It was a warm up sketch that I decided to "finish" not a lot of thought went into it past that. Obviously you don't have that context so it's fine you might have thought it was my MaStErPiEcE or something. But even without that context there's still no reason to just tear shit down, have some humility. This is a critique board, not a 'shit all over people who's art you don't like' board.

I showed you mine, show me yours

[Anonymous No.4837930]

>>4837918
for me even if someone shit all over my work i wouldnt mind if there was at least something constructive said, theres tough love and theres just being a dick because you can

[Anonymous No.4837933]

>>4837915
>Still larping
>>4837918
This fag doesn't care if your art is good or not. He's here because his ego is bruised. He's been same fagging for several threads now.

[Anonymous No.4837941]

>>4837933
Yeah I've seen him in the last few just being a cunt. Anyone have some of his art? I'm curious if his pedestal is as high as he makes it out to be.

[Anonymous No.4837953]

>>4837941
More than likely this anon
>>>4818784
He got told to go to /beg/ or alt to improve his work. Then he decided to shit up the threads by spamming his garbage.

[Anonymous No.4837972]

>>4837899
Steel your mind anon

at best he really means good, in an offhandish, brutish way

at worst, he is using you for a pathetic display of ego-stroking on a image forum designed to let the worst facets of your personality shine like a golden turd

Dont submit to the shiny turd anon

[Anonymous No.4838115]

[Anonymous No.4838183]

>>4838115
that a custom warframe?

[Anonymous No.4838292]

>>4838183
nope, but I guess comparisons were inevitable

[Anonymous No.4838402]

>>4838292
sorry man, you nailed the more techy look of some warframes i remember

still the clean lineart at the top looks dope
the guns look a bit out of place, but they seem to be the part with the least time put into them

[Anonymous No.4838403]

>>4837751
You might think it’s shit, and that’s cool. Art is subjective. I’m still getting paid for my stuff tho. Also, pyw crab kun

[Anonymous No.4838595]

>>4837849
>>4837846
blog?

[Anonymous No.4838625]

I know I can't render for shit, but that's what I'm trying to work on.

I'm not sure if I'm like 100% blind to the mistakes, but people don't seem to like this shite at all. I don't think it's like THAT bad, but I do know it's not like super good either.

Any help would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4838639]

I don't like this very much but I spent too much time rendering it to not post it anywhere.

[Anonymous No.4838645]

>>4838625

If you de-saturate that, you'd notice that it's all basically mid-tones. Using the full range of values would be the best course for rendering practice. If you want my opinion, rendering is not a good thing to practice, though: you'll just spend hours pushing paint around, not learning much, and ending up with an overworked, mushy mess (I've done this too many times to count). Linework is everything.

[Anonymous No.4838666]

>>4835907
so far the right one but if you added drop shadow and a very soft gradient on the left darkening the bottom then maybe it will be on equal footing.
>>4837846>>4837849
Hot damn!
>>4838625
The colors work for me, is kind of comic book style. You could fade less the nearest wing, maybe add some drop shadow even if it's blurred or cut to ground her.
>>4838639
I think the best for me are the metal bits specially the shoulder pad, really nice read of form and texture.

Another clouds, tried to focus on shapes this time around. Not quite there but better I feel. Problem I'm having is trying to do this without stylizing.

[Anonymous No.4838671]

>>4838645
Pushed the values a bit. Grayscale looks like this atm. Final one looked better too, thanks for pointing it out.

The thing is I pretty much only do linework. This image too is only lineart with filled in colors.

[Anonymous No.4838675]

>>4838645
Only a slight difference, but it's semi noticeable.

[Anonymous No.4838684]

>>4838645
I pretty much only draw shit like this in gray scale, so I'm trying to learn how to get a finished look in pieces.

[crux No.4838688]

>>4838639
try to group the values better. Right now every element has 0 to 10 on the value range.
skin for example could be 2 to8
metal 0 to 10
leather 3 to 5 etc

[Anonymous No.4838703]

>>4837831
well haven't drawn since i was 13-14 years old only got back into it a few months ago during lockdown soooooo

[Anonymous No.4838830]

>>4838625
There was an interesting post or video from Bobby Chiu about appeal that I thought could help you, but I can't find it. The gist of it was about the difference between drawing something 'properly' and drawing something so that it looks nice.

Your technical skills are great, I disagree with your statement about your rendering being 'shit'. The details, textures, values and colour are all working really well. I think you're just caught up a bit in making things like correct. There's a stiffness and a textbook feel to the illustration. Yes, we have visible tendons in our feet and our hands, but drawing them with such detail isn't appealing. Yes, our knees are bulbous and lumpy, but drawing them that way doesn't look nice. Yes, we have bags under our eyes, but rendering them out so sharply looks weird. You've got all the know-how and skill to draw really well, now you just have to work on simplifying and abstracting for appeal.

This is a very good place to be in for you, so don't worry. All the grinding and studying has paid off, now you just have to strip it back a bit.

[Anonymous No.4838884]

>>4838830
Shit man, this was very helpful. You wouldn't know which video that was? I might find it myself, but mightaswell ask. Never know how deep one has to dig. :D

My english is a bit shit, but what you said is exactly what I've been pondering in the past months. I'm so thankful that you wrote it down for me. Not an abstract thought anymore.

Shit senpai, thanks.

[Anonymous No.4838959]

>>4838884
I can't remember, I went looking for it and couldn't find it. It may have just been a Schoolism blog post, or an anecdote in one of the Schoolism youtube videos. It was about the illustration I posted though, called 'the ugly duckling'.

[Anonymous No.4838982]

>>4838830
>Bobby Chiu

I don’t find his shit appealing at all tho

[Anonymous No.4839138]

>>4838959
Shit senpai thanks anyway. What you wrote truly helped me.

[Anonymous No.4839150]

>>4832690
she was graped

[Anonymous No.4839668]

[Anonymous No.4839918]

>>4835907
crux, do you do lines or just going for the shapes right away? can you eleborate your resoning, if this is the case.

[Anonymous No.4839942]

>>4835907
N

[Anonymous No.4839953]

Just finished this. Thinking about either making something similar with ink again or remaking this but maybe with oil painting, how can I make it better? This is half of it

[Anonymous No.4840118]

each day I edge closer to conquering the knee

[Anonymous No.4840200]

>>4839953
Bloggu desu ka?

[Anonymous No.4840356]

[Anonymous No.4840373]

>>4838959
Senpai!

I tried to apply the shit you talked about to the piece.

I think I need to tone down the knees alot more, but going in the right direction?

[Anonymous No.4840469]

Fuck you look at it

[Anonymous No.4840609]

[Anonymous No.4840623]

>>4840200
Oh, haven't got one yet, I think I need to improve and have a bigger catalogue, I only got like 5 or 6 decent drawings

[crux No.4840624]

>>4838666
cool thanks!
>>4839918
hmm I will do a bit of both I think. But I never do a tight line work in the beginning. I think I just dont have the patience for it.

[Anonymous No.4840714]

[Anonymous No.4840775]

[Anonymous No.4841189]

>>4840623
Ah too bad. Looks really cozy

[Anonymous No.4841245]

>>4840609
A bit too much, but still looks kinda cool
>>4840775
perrrrrrfect

although his right eye looks "lackluster" for a lack of a better word

[Anonymous No.4841253]

wip

[crux No.4841300]

>>4841253
oah this is gonna be epic :D We already have a good sense of scale so that is very good.

One this I notice is that the foreground army silhouette is all very regular. You tried to break it up with the soldier holding the sword but I dont think its enough, He is just too small in the frame. Maybe make him bigger (giant), add a horse under him, or maybe add some war machines to break it up.

another thins is I wouldnt put a flag just over the dragons head

[Anonymous No.4841471]

[Anonymous No.4841515]

[Anonymous No.4841712]

I know I don’t belong in this thread but /beg/ wasn’t helpful this time.

I basically want to know wtf went so wrong in the mid section that it looks so flat? I imagined it to be a linework issue, but it in fact has a better sense of depth without the colors.

Also, advice on composition would be great!

[Anonymous No.4842022]

>>4841712
1pt has problems with proper depth / objects appearing compressed, especially towards the horizon
adding in atmospheric distortion or some form of planned values either going from dark -> light or light -> dark as it recedes towards the horizon could help
or adding in repeating elements like telephone poles to help create a sense of continuity / means to guage depth might also help

[Anonymous No.4842627]

>>4831176
not that happy with it but its been good learning so far

[Anonymous No.4842660]

A real human bean, and a real hero

[Anonymous No.4842685]

[Anonymous No.4843380]

can i get tips on how to get better at painting detail? I'm so used to using lines for everything, painting was always difficult for me

[Anonymous No.4843608]

>>4842627
Looks stupid af when she is mid swing on her club and the dude shes about to hit has already taken the hit. You should've posed her post swing not when shes winding up.

[Anonymous No.4843649]

Blocking in stuff

[Anonymous No.4843900]

[Anonymous No.4843953]

>>4843900
clouds from life

[Anonymous No.4843954]

wonder when it's ever going be done

[Anonymous No.4844231]

>>4843649
Done

[Anonymous No.4844603]

>>4842627
i know i memed myself on reference and overcommited but at least I learned some stuff.

[Anonymous No.4844913]

>>4844603

Should've chosen a better reference image if you wanted the image to have some fluidity in it.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/78/e0/4278e083e3ea62a2a687fd6f88f382a8.jpg

You've posed your character before she swings her club, when you should've, according to everything else in the image, posed her post swing, aka. the last image.

Now it looks super dumb when she hasn't yet swung her club and the other character is taking a hit already.

[Anonymous No.4844988]

>>4843900
Hey, its you, how are u doing

[Anonymous No.4845418]

>>4844913
She is in the end swing, I'll get the reference I used.

[Anonymous No.4845428]

>>4844913
its just a picture posed stance at the end of a chest peeled forward/upward horizontal swing. the bat follows the handle, I wanted a tricky perspective challenge.

[Anonymous No.4845495]

Getting sick of painting bamboo...

[Anonymous No.4845760]

starting this

[Anonymous No.4845797]

>>4845760
r/lostredditors

[Anonymous No.4845801]

[Anonymous No.4845909]

>>4845428
That is tricky, I think it has trouble reading because the legs are covered by the dress. They don't look like they're crossing, which also makes it look like you just drew the feet backwards. It's a pretty challenging illustration to be sure.

[Anonymous No.4845921]

>>4845428
Nope, that's pre swing..

[Anonymous No.4845940]

True Chads draw bubblegum crisis fanart

[Anonymous No.4846110]

>>4845797
i know the title is cringe, going to change it later but still like the idea

[Anonymous No.4846238]

i know it looks like dogshit but im kinda happy with how well the cross hatching wrapped around the form

[Anonymous No.4846614]

What level of art is this? Critique would be great too.

[Anonymous No.4846936]

>>4846614
7

[Anonymous No.4846942]

[Anonymous No.4846948]

>>4846238
The placement of the hatching is good but in executing she looks dirty

[Anonymous No.4847171]

>>4846614
Depends a bit.

It's far away from being on the level of entry level professional gameindustry/illustration jobs. Still looks like it's going in the right direction. Just need to train hard.

[Anonymous No.4847209]

>>4831987
P cool anon
How do i render like this?
Any tuts that you found extremely helpful

[Anonymous No.4847258]

>>4845495
Always looking forward to see you working on a new thing. Looks solid so far as always

[Anonymous No.4847401]

>>4835081
You've got the basic large volumes down but the right arm is too damn long and she basically has no definition of muscle coming through that suit. At least give her a bit of a deltoid and tricep nudge so her arms aren't flat cylinders.

[Anonymous No.4847407]

Working on this, regretting the level of detail as usual.

[Anonymous No.4847455]

>>4847407
So far so good

[Anonymous No.4847602]

>>4845495
are you still working on the dragon prince? i enjoyed the last season, but I'm a huge shipper fag.

[Anonymous No.4847614]

aaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.4847652]

>>4847614
IM COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMING

[Anonymous No.4847824]

someone please crit. It looks horrible and I can't figure out exactly why.

[Anonymous No.4847827]

I thought the sketch looked fine, but when I colored it in it looked terrible.

[Anonymous No.4847831]

>>4846942
LOVE how the tear duct stands our

[Anonymous No.4848133]

>>4845760
finished, crits welcome

[Anonymous No.4848172]

Trying out an post apocalyptic landscape with acrilics

[Anonymous No.4848189]

got bored with oils so im doing acrylics

[Anonymous No.4848941]

>>4847602
Production hasn't started on season 4 yet, I think they're still waiting on scripts and other details from Wonderstorm. They're trying to get the whole Dragon Prince design team back together since a couple people left since the show ended and contracts finished (me included). I dont' think I'll be working on it though because I moved to Europe a few months ago to work at a concept art studio. But I was thinking of contacting them to do freelance for the show when it starts up again but It would probably be a big commitment so I'm not sure.

[Anonymous No.4849002]

>>4841471
really wasn't happy with it so i've restarted with a nicer pose

[Anonymous No.4849083]

quick sketches with refs

[Anonymous No.4849089]

>>4848133
>>4845760
I don’t get it
either way, the tail being cut off at the border is bad feng shui

[Anonymous No.4849101]

What am I doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.4849110]

>>4848133
This looks amazing. Use a reference? Also update on this piece.

[Anonymous No.4849116]

>>4849110
Fuck me. Welp here’s the main portion in better quality.

[Anonymous No.4849145]

>>4849101
Maybe insist on blending more so it feels more natural ?

How am I doing /ic/ ?

[Anonymous No.4849186]

>>4849145
Overblending to the point of unnapeal, include more edges and strokes in the texture. Perspective/proportion doesn’t quite match. Bounced light too dim. Otherwise great! Keep it up

[Anonymous No.4849211]

[Anonymous No.4849216]

>>4849101
>>4849145
>>>/beg/
not insulting, you’re in the wrong thread

[Anonymous No.4849254]

>>4849186
Thanks for your vision ! I think I just need to go through digital painting theory courses. So far I have been doing it instinctively just trying to get the values/color/volumes right. Also I need to stop painting with a mouse but I dont want to rush into a tablet...

[Anonymous No.4849287]

>>4849216
Well the bottom one yes, the upper one is starting to look fine.

Plenty of /beg/ posts in this thread tho.

[Anonymous No.4849288]

>>4849254
Stop using soft brushes first of all.

[Anonymous No.4849436]

>>4849211
cool beans

trying to thumbnail appropriate composition before rendering

[Anonymous No.4849510]

>>4849288
So I should blend by varying the opacity of the brush ? What about flux ? Because So far I have been blending with soft brush indeed

[Anonymous No.4849520]

>>4849145
>>4849254
>>4849510
use HARD BRUSHES to establish the major blocks of tones / planes
use SOFT BRUSHES to establish the soft transitions between them

do a statue study or even some primitives, it should be immediately clear to you what the planes are and where the hard edges/soft edges are necessary
also just buy a Huion H610, its like $50 USD theres no excuse

[Anonymous No.4849534]

>>4849520
I actually had this exact workflow so I think maybe soft brush should be avoided altogether ?Or maybe just way less of it ?

Anyways I just did this eye with a new course I just bought 0 soft brush and only opacity variation. Am I in the right path ?

Forget about the eyelashes with mouse is really hard to get it right

[Anonymous No.4849543]

>>4849101
I think a little more ambient occlusion could help, would soften up and slightly darker some pockets and creases. I think aesthetically it is pleasant to look at, so gj anon. I think cylinder shadow would be less intense toward the top of it and maybe softer further away.

[Anonymous No.4849553]

ARGH ME BOY WE GOTTA GET THE BOUNTY

[Anonymous No.4849567]

>>4849553
ARGHARGARGARGARG

[Anonymous No.4849643]

[Anonymous No.4849654]

>>4833066
Very cute IQ anon, I love how you did the back muscles as well as the folds in the denim. It’s a success in my book

[Anonymous No.4849689]

>>4849553
You gotta get some hard edges, you blurry motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.4849718]

>>4848941
awesome! happy for you bro

[Anonymous No.4849754]

>>4838666
these are beautiful :)

do u do line drawings including the clouds and stuff ? the shapes of the clouds work really well with everything

[Anonymous No.4849814]

>>4849689
yeah, it was done on one of those drawing board sites to test them out, gonna redo these two properly

[Anonymous No.4849873]

Any willing feedback to this sketch?

[Anonymous No.4851008]

bump because dead

[Anonymous No.4851260]

From a few years ago but thought id post something

[Akirel No.4851383]

>>4849520
Brushes don't matter. You can use only soft, only hard, opacity pressure, flow pressure, both, neither, textured, smooth, variable, etc. None of that matters. All that matters is the values. And values is something you get better at with your eyes and brain, not with careful brush usage or a workflow shift.

[Anonymous No.4851395]

>>4851383
i think you're significantly downplaying the importance of edges and edge control in the equation., in which the brushes you use do matter. and edges have a dexterity and handling requirement that goes beyond just the bare recognition of "where to apply which edge"

[Anonymous No.4851396]

>>4851260
I fucking dig this. do you have a blog?

[Anonymous No.4851398]

>>4849002
>really wasn't happy with it so i've restarted with a nicer pose
good job man

[Akirel No.4851434]

>>4851395
Edges aren't required for a painting to read or be successful. Edges are pretty sexy when executed well, but they're essentially optional. That's basically what papa Mullins had to say about it.

But if you want to discuss edge control anyway, the picture I posted was painted all on one layer with one brush, and the edge control isn't lacking at all. It's all about control, not using the right tool for the right job.

[Anonymous No.4851439]

>>4851383
ooof, that foot

[Akirel No.4851446]

>>4851439
>that foot

[Anonymous No.4851456]

>>4851434
>what papa Mullins had to say about it
also, citation needed

[Anonymous No.4851472]

>>4851396
Thanks guy, no I don't. I post to instagram

[Anonymous No.4851477]

can you guys recommend me some brushes to paint with

[Akirel No.4851478]

>>4851456
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ8gMbLxbWc

[Akirel No.4851499]

>>4851477
I highly recommend this one.

[Anonymous No.4851502]

>>4851499
I don't get it? Is that an insult?

[Anonymous No.4851525]

>>4851478
ty, mah akinigga

[Anonymous No.4851598]

>>4849543
Thanks la, i'm going to apply your tips. Thanks for the encouragement!

>>4849216
The underdrawing is sound, I just rushed the strokes and finish a little to get towards the values and colour, knowing I wouldn't nail it first time.

[Anonymous No.4851604]

>>4851598
actually on reflection I rushed the underdrawing too, my bad

[Anonymous No.4851721]

idk why but the face looks weird or off, kinda ugly imo but i cant seem to figure out what to do

[Anonymous No.4851765]

>>4851721

[Anonymous No.4851787]

>>4851721
That hand. That chest anatomy. Her eyes look flat too. You need to redraw them. There’s no 3D form to them. Just flat drawn on eyes,
>>4851502
Hard round. It’s all you need to draw a great piece. Brushes don’t really matter until you need to make shortcuts.

[Anonymous No.4851802]

>>4851765
>>4851721

here you go

[Anonymous No.4851805]

>>4851598
it’s not even a matter of “lol it’s bad”, the point is you’re doing a basic exercise, it belongs in the thread for people doing basic exercises

[Anonymous No.4851869]

[Anonymous No.4851873]

>>4851499
nope. this one is better

[Anonymous No.4851908]

>>4851869
really cool use of color, love the texture gradients

[Anonymous No.4851950]

>>4851873

I remember when I got that brush from one of Dave Rapoza's tutorial brush packs back in the day. Funny guy...

[Anonymous No.4851951]

gentelmen, it was a nice thread. let us continue here >>4851949

[Anonymous No.4852009]

>>4848133
i would remove the outline of the bird, particularly around the head, even though there's some nice fine feather detail in there. which you could keep. but removing the outline around the bird would make it would look more realistic.

[Anonymous No.4852093]

>>4848133
>>4849089 I wanted to have a bigger size for the bird, going to try with a complete tail
>>4849110 thanks anon, yes I have a reference but I give it some different features
>>4852009 thanks, going to try without the outline

[Anonymous No.4853969]

>>4852093
>>4848133
wings are fantastic but the dots and the bird head are kinda shit like it looks more pterodactyl-ish than a bird

[Anonymous No.4854534]

slowly working through this.