/beg/ BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.4820026]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done. Anything is okay.

previous thread >>4816003

READ THE STICKY for some guidance:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - preferably ~1000px, <1.1mb

BE ACTIVE AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS - all it takes is a little feedback to give someone a lot of motivation.

Leave no submission un-replied!!!

[Anonymous No.4820030]

UGH I-IM GONNA D-DRAAAAAAAAW

[Anonymous No.4820036]

How bad is this? What needs work?

[Anonymous No.4820037]

>>4820030
>he made a shitpost on a peruvian fishermans bathroom wall instead of drawing

shiggy diggy

[Anonymous No.4820045]

>>4820030
>learning to draw your own porn to help deal with addiction

[Anonymous No.4820066]

>>4820036
GMI.

[Anonymous No.4820090]

Any good videos on how vanishing points move? My mind is breaking

[Anonymous No.4820111]

>>4820026
What the fuck is this shit? Why is he puking while riding a bike for kids?

[Anonymous No.4820114]

>>4820037
>pot calling the kettle black

[Anonymous No.4820118]

To often it happens that, when i need to draw and i feel like drawing, my head is like filled with cotton or sand, and i feel sleepy, unmotivated and straight up lazy. So, how to work through this? I have good discipline, but this happens a bit to often for my taste. Pic rel are some of my drawings when i don't have this feeling.

[Anonymous No.4820159]

quick 1 minute faces

[Anonymous No.4820210]

>>4820036
feet/hands/ankles are fucked

[Anonymous No.4820264]

[Anonymous No.4820283]

>>4820264

[Anonymous No.4820286]

>>4820283
picked up a superpose book from the artbook thread. I'll try doing a few like this everyday

[Anonymous No.4820337]

>>4820090
>mind is breaking
It's supposed to anon, that one and the next are supposed to break you and make you question the fuck is going on. Your job here, isn't to understand, or to know though. It's to push through it with what you think it's supposed to be.

And then, once you finish it and get your review it'll be explained on what you should do if you need it for what it was. Later on this will be explained much better to you.

So don't worry, you're doing great!

[Anonymous No.4820341]

Break from studying. Cycling between here, lessons and the draw threads seems like a pretty good way to keep going. Draw threads can give pretty fun ideas.

[Anonymous No.4820450]

>>4820286
Is it the current thread? Also those came out really great

[Anonymous No.4820451]

Can anybody fix this?

[Anonymous No.4820456]

Post your floating loomis heads... NOW

[Anonymous No.4820460]

>>4820450
i believe it is.

and thanks :)

[Anonymous No.4820479]

trying to do some eye studies. im especially having trouble with eyelashes, and i think im tending to make the eye too tall

[Anonymous No.4820491]

>>4820451
a therapist, probably.

[Anonymous No.4820552]

I'm about to start the second lesson of box. Wanted to fiddle a bit before hand on the perspective stuff so I can compare it. This isn't meant to be exact, but some feedback would be nice.

Not sure if going for 1 vp with the other two being infinite was the right choice. I drew the original flatter version and then kind of flipped it a bit. It's not a one for one. Just an idea.

[Anonymous No.4820555]

I just noticed the folds at the bottom of his shirt look kinda awkward. How could I fix them?

[Anonymous No.4820616]

I hate to say it but some anons say reddit is good for artwork critique and shit
which subs aren't pozzed

[Anonymous No.4820632]

>>4820341
cute!

[Anonymous No.4820633]

>>4820555
Less symmetry I think. Fabric tends to fall more chaotically instead of in such ordered folds.

[Anonymous No.4820639]

am i doing this right

i just feel directionless, i've been hopping between figure drawing/gesture stuff to loomis construction things and proko vids, i can't tell if i'm actually doing any better and my biggest worry is that i'm gonna come back to this stuff in like a year and realize i was wasting time because i was "learning the wrong way"

[Anonymous No.4820649]

>>4820451
Looks pretty good, ngl

[Anonymous No.4820651]

>>4820264
>>4820283
>>4820451
I AM G-GONNA FUCKING C-COOOOOOM

[Anonymous No.4820657]

Posting the fixed version, for another thread

[Anonymous No.4820664]

>>4820657
UWAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
IM C-COOOOOOOOOMING

[Anonymous No.4820666]

>>4820639
post observational drawing work

[Anonymous No.4820673]

>>4820657
that right foot looks too small, shape of the butt looks pretty nice but I'm not sure if the perspective is okay, that long line on her back looks like its place on the scapula so I would just trim it and then maybe add the line for the spine closer to the left.

[Anonymous No.4820689]

>>4820673
>actual good critique
gmi

[Anonymous No.4820738]

>>4820210
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.4820754]

tried again to freehand the one pt perspective in perspective made easy

[Anonymous No.4820760]

>>4820036
If that's an actual animal woman, then it's actually pretty fucking good.

[Anonymous No.4820772]

>>4820738
Are you?

[Anonymous No.4820795]

>>4820066
>>4820037
>>4820037

Appreciate your input, guys

[Anonymous No.4820801]

>>4820264
needs more sheen on the tights

[Anonymous No.4820838]

Any suggestions on how to improve this before I put more detail would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4820840]

>>4820838
Here's the reference image.

[Anonymous No.4820847]

>>4820838
at least skim this https://e-hentai.org/g/1614525/329ee47b31/

[Anonymous No.4820860]

>>4820847
Bro, thank you. I had the link for this saved to buy the book whenever but never got around to it. I didn't know it was scanned.

[Anonymous No.4820880]

>>4820860
You should support the author nonetheless if you gain something outta it.

[Anonymous No.4820881]

I think something about my Loomis guy looks a little fucky but I'm too beg to identify exactly what's wrong. Any pointers?

[Anonymous No.4820887]

fun shiki sketch

[Anonymous No.4820888]

>>4820881
Remember the head has perspective too. Everything is parallel in your drawing.

Also, you're symbol drawing the features in, though you'll fix that with experience

[Anonymous No.4820892]

>>4820880
I still plan to, I vastly prefer having a physical copy but this is cool until I can get my hands on one.

[Anonymous No.4820915]

>>4820045
I actually start drawing as soon as I feel the urge to fap. I usually end up drawing for 2 hours instead of fapping for 4 hours...

[Anonymous No.4820920]

>>4820888
>Remember the head has perspective too. Everything is parallel in your drawing.
Based. Thanks anon. Nice trips too.

[Anonymous No.4820921]

>>4820888
>image
christ it's too much

[Anonymous No.4820925]

>>4820915
>fapping for 4 hours
if youre not trolling how is this even possible? like you literally open pornhub click a random video and youre done in like 5 minutes if that, wtf are you doing for 4 hours??

[Anonymous No.4820930]

>>4820925
Not him but after 2 it starts to take me 30 minutes to nut

[Anonymous No.4820933]

>>4820930
i dont get how people have multiple nuts, after one thats it im done and have no desire for more

[Anonymous No.4820936]

>>4820933
only happens when i'm that turned on by the material (rarely) or with sex

[Anonymous No.4820940]

>>4820936
Yeah sometimes I just nut back to back then don't masturbate for a week
good art and critique discussion guys

[Anonymous No.4820971]

>>4820026

[Anonymous No.4820973]

>>4820971

[Anonymous No.4820981]

>>4820971

[Anonymous No.4821002]

>>4820264
Maybe I'm tripping but from the waist up the drawing looks rather flat.

[Anonymous No.4821175]

>>4820090
What's a vanishing point, besides an awesome cult movie from 1970?

[Anonymous No.4821177]

>>4820036
Is that the queen of Thundera?

[Anonymous No.4821188]

My scanner is shit,but that's the best i can do.How is it?

[Anonymous No.4821192]

>>4821188
based on this

[Anonymous No.4821193]

>>4821188
looks cool I like it

[Anonymous No.4821302]

>>4821188
fucking cool

[Anonymous No.4821313]

>>4820754
What is it with you retards and your obsession with freehanding everything?

[Anonymous No.4821380]

>>4821313
It's call train your eye and mind's eye. Unless your doing perspective you don't learn anything but to be a photocopier from doing a grid on a portrait.

[Anonymous No.4821383]

>>4821380
>Unless your doing perspective
crazy man the reply was to a guy doing perspective who would of thought

[Anonymous No.4821384]

>>4821380
Try training your real eyes because that IS perspective. And it's totally fucked.

[Anonymous No.4821386]

>>4820971
>>4820973
>>4820981
>words words words words words
What's even the point of making it a comic? Also, rotate your images.

[Anonymous No.4821393]

[Anonymous No.4821395]

5 pages of circles, ovals and spheres, 15
5 of lines, 10
figure drawing

[Anonymous No.4821397]

>>4821395
what else?

[Anonymous No.4821398]

>>4821313
I'm sure I would understand the concept just a well if i used a ruler, faggot

[Anonymous No.4821403]

>>4821313
1-I want to become a Gi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8x_TClXuxM
2-min 22:52
https://youtu.be/7MV-bJz1dcw?t=1372

[Anonymous No.4821438]

>>4821398
If you'd used a ruler you might have noticed that your shit doesn't line up.

[Anonymous No.4821448]

>>4821380
anon you freehand stuff after you've learned it formally. please reconsider.

[Anonymous No.4821465]

How can i render my drawings without messed them up?

[Anonymous No.4821471]

HELP
i cant do spheres

[Anonymous No.4821491]

[Anonymous No.4821493]

>>4821438
it doesnt line up because I didn't use a ruler. I'm aware. Not everyone lives next to a shitty 7/11 in some inner city ghetto like you do. I have to drive 50 minutes into town to buy a ruler.

[Anonymous No.4821495]

Beegure drawing practice

[Anonymous No.4821497]

>>4821493
You... You do realize anything that's straight works?

[Anonymous No.4821503]

>>4821471
kys and pray that you'll reincarnate as a GMI

[Anonymous No.4821504]

>>4821465
change your medium. looks like you're just using a regular pencil. thats no good for shading. you cant get any real contrast with that. get a legit set of pencils so you can use noticeably different values. actually i really like my alcohol markers. a set of grays either prismacolor or copic are great. or i mean... probably not the best habit but go digital. that way you always have layers and a undo button if youre afraid of messing up the sketch. in my opinion you have the wrong mindset if youre worried about messing up the sketch. i didnt see any real improvement until i threw that ego shit away. no sketch is precious. you should be able to throw that sketch out and just do it over again. it hurts at first but its the only way to make real gains. if you go the digital route you can really only get good at digital. youre gonna have trouble with trad mediums.

[Anonymous No.4821509]

>>4821465
go read loomis bro

[Anonymous No.4821544]

>>4820881
like the other anon said, the biggest issue is the perspective. it's a relatively simple fix. the rest comes with practicing drawing from life/ref, learning anatomy and the planes of the face x1000

[Anonymous No.4821566]

>>4821544
>Draw a completely different head shape
>Thought that he "fixed" it
The absolute fucking state of /beg/

[Anonymous No.4821589]

>>4821566
cringe

[Anonymous No.4821609]

>>4821544
i love your work and its a big inspo but you really do just draw the same face over and over, could you post some more unique faces that youve done i love your style

[Anonymous No.4821612]

>>4821589
dumb crab.
please KYS instead of shitting /ic/ up
you will NGMI anyway

[Anonymous No.4821639]

>>4821497
anon I was joking

[Anonymous No.4821643]

>>4821495
where do you get insect refs

[Anonymous No.4821647]

Sorry if this is a really dumb question, but how do I know if my fundies are actually good enough to move on to something like figure drawing? I've been doing this drawabox stuff for a while now and I think I'll puke if I have to draw another fucking piece of furniture.

[Anonymous No.4821663]

>>4821609
ill try. thx anon.

[Anonymous No.4821669]

>>4821609
>>4821663
these two are about as unique as it gets with me

[Anonymous No.4821674]

>>4821647
just do it and see how you fare. I never did draw a box but something like Michael Hampton's figure drawing + an anatomy book should be a pretty smooth transition.

Hampton's book is about building figures from simple, box like shapes.

just please don't think that drawing boxes is an actual fundamental. It's just rudimentary perspective.

[Anonymous No.4821675]

>>4820838
I find this a little better, enough for me to want to finish it later. Hopefully I settle into a style soon, found myself second guessing little things like fur tufts, how to handle the ears, and the eyes.

[Anonymous No.4821677]

>>4821647

Do Brent Evistons gesture drawing course. You can move on now. Motivation will help you. Then do his figure course or prokos.

But if you’re very beginner do the art and science of drawing

[Anonymous No.4821690]

>>4821669
cool thanks anon

[Anonymous No.4821739]

[Anonymous No.4821743]

>>4821739
push the values

[Anonymous No.4821762]

How do I get lines like the left in Photoshop? There's a nice gradient and each line looks so smoothly rendered against the dry look of the lines on the right...

[Anonymous No.4821776]

>>4821674
genuine question then, what should I be doing do grind perspective efficiently then? like drawing forms from life? Because I thought boxes and ellipses were stressed in dab

[Anonymous No.4821786]

>>4820456

[Anonymous No.4821788]

>>4821643
pinterest, but the gesture drawings are from imagination

[Anonymous No.4821792]

>>4821566
kys crab

[Anonymous No.4821795]

>>4821792
You're the dumb crab.
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.4821797]

>>4821795
I hope you die in a fire.

[Anonymous No.4821832]

Am I meant to draw this right side up or also upside down? I know the image should be upside down.

[Anonymous No.4821834]

>>4820887

[Anonymous No.4821840]

>>4821786

[Anonymous No.4821844]

2nd time using acrylics, any tips on resources on the topic of painting? Want to move to color also, but don't know where to start or what colors to get, so any help with that would be great

[Anonymous No.4821851]

>>4821832
upside down anon...

[Anonymous No.4821860]

Even though it's terrible I had some fun sketching this one

[Anonymous No.4821869]

>>4821860
>forgot to add image

[Anonymous No.4821882]

How do I learn to draw mecha and other 'mechanical' objects like cars, motorcycles and jets? Are there any books you can recommend

[Anonymous No.4821896]

>>4821834
anon I'm simply too /beg/ to know how to fix it
The facial shape of the piece is like an exact 1:1 to the frame i used

[Anonymous No.4821898]

>>4821896
rotated

[Anonymous No.4821916]

As a beginner, what's the best way to approach lining something? Just use the pen tool at the desired size?

[Anonymous No.4821925]

>get to famous Loomis head section of FwaP
>Can't draw my circles well enough to even start

should I used stencils so I can practice the head or just sit and draw circles till theyre not shit.

[Anonymous No.4821928]

tried to draw goro twice
we keep on failing

[Anonymous No.4821930]

WE KEEP ON FAILING

[Anonymous No.4821933]

How do I do Digital paintings????

[Anonymous No.4821935]

>>4821898
i would advice to not draw pre 1990 style but if thats your liking do whatever but these faces just look like that also nu takeuchi has toned down the exagerated curve in the cheeks but nothing will change that rhino face tho

[Anonymous No.4821937]

>>4821925
It can be as lopsided as the family budget, anon.

[Anonymous No.4821941]

This is the coolest exercise. Drawabox feels mega autistic so far though. Did I do good on this? Is drawabox actually good or am I wasting time, haven't gotten to the epic 250 boxes yet

[Anonymous No.4821945]

>>4820036
Looks nice.

[Anonymous No.4821952]

>>4821935
Yeah im not a fan of ufotable but just trying to build a style
I like their eyes though

[Anonymous No.4821953]

>>4820118
drink a lot of water and coffee

[Anonymous No.4821956]

>>4821937
even the non funny faces? I guess I'll keep at it.

Maybe I should stick to doing it in paper. Im trying to use it as a way to get used to my tablet but oh boy am I bad at it.

[Anonymous No.4821960]

>>4820639
go back and forth between these quicker gestures and longer constructions
so right now you should probably work on 5 minute constructions of poses for a while. do like an hour of those a day, with tubes, spheres and boxes (steve huston has good videos on this)
then go back to quicker gestural drawings and you will find your intuitions for proportion are a lot better

[Anonymous No.4822017]

how do i learn to slow down? you can definitely see where i rushed

[Anonymous No.4822068]

>>4822017
Instead of drawing fast just don't draw so fast. That's how I did it anyway

[Anonymous No.4822085]

Sorry for the awful pic, it's one of 6 different small paintings. How can I improve the face?

[Anonymous No.4822114]

Finally decided to incorporate backgrounds in my drawings. Tear my ass up /ic/.

[Anonymous No.4822123]

>>4822114
Pretty good desu. His goose-holding arm is a bit short and the background perspective doesn't quite line up with the character, but I like the style.

[Anonymous No.4822132]

>>4821509
what r the lines ur drawing supposed to represent

[Anonymous No.4822141]

>>4822085
go to /asg/ and copy more anime faces anon

[Anonymous No.4822168]

>>4821916
Outline first usually the thickest line. Line weight being more prominent where multiple lines converge following similar riles ro ambient occlusion shading. line tapering between less weighted sections. Inner lines should usually not be thicker than the thickest outline line. Unironcially keep some sketch lines as softer lines.

[Anonymous No.4822174]

[Anonymous No.4822179]

[Anonymous No.4822198]

[Anonymous No.4822214]

[Anonymous No.4822215]

>>4821663
>>4821669
How did you learned to draw heads? Loomis or vilppu?

[Anonymous No.4822238]

/beg/ I did spheres today but I can't, I failed them, the other two goro drawings were a failure, i don't know what to draw or what to practice anymore, help /beg/

[Anonymous No.4822241]

>>4821609
how do people follow ic posters, I'm in every thread and haven't seen this guy in months or at all

[Anonymous No.4822242]

/beg/ I did spheres today but I can't, I failed them, the other two goro drawings were a failure, i don't know what to draw or what to practice anymore, help /beg/

[Anonymous No.4822248]

/beg/ I did spheres today but I can't, I failed them, the other two goro drawings were a failure, i don't know what to draw or what to practice anymore, help /beg/

[Anonymous No.4822252]

what the fuck

[Anonymous No.4822253]

>>4821386
Isn't Garfield a comic?

[Anonymous No.4822256]

>>4822179
Uncanny

[Anonymous No.4822258]

ever just feel like you weren't meant to be an artist

[Anonymous No.4822261]

how many here are /begs/ who pretty much doodled your entire life but only with corona you have been able to study

[Anonymous No.4822269]

>>4822261
I still just doodle on sticky notes and anything I find because I still have to go to work

[Anonymous No.4822275]

>>4822258
Nobody was meant to be an artist

[Anonymous No.4822276]

>>4822275
when i meet younger artist who are much better it just feels like they were always meant to be an artist, to "make it" is their destiny
but for me, well some people weren't meant to live their dreams.

[Anonymous No.4822283]

if yain't having fun then why are you even trying to become an artist

[Anonymous No.4822284]

>>4822283
i can feel happy with drawing things i like
but sometimes i feel like when other people see my art, i just look like some retard deviant art tier guy who people assume is much younger than they really are

[Anonymous No.4822349]

>>4821663
Nice, Naruto drawing.

[Anonymous No.4822351]

>>4822215
10% loomis, 90% drawing a lot of fucking heads

[Anonymous No.4822370]

ms pain doodle

[Anonymous No.4822371]

>>4820888
This is bullshit, you can absolutely make things parallel in a 3/4 head drawing. since the head is pretty small and youre not right up close to it lines won't really converge all that much. the loomis guy has a protruding forehead and the features are symbol drawn, that's what he needs to work on.

[Anonymous No.4822446]

Damn it I just can't get the shading right.

[Anonymous No.4822447]

>>4822248
I like how you drew your avatar. I feel like you rush your drawing. They look similar to mine when I'm of my meds and I'm trying to draw to fast and pressing the pen down to hard. Take your time. Practice trying to draw a imagine in long smooth strokes, don't be afraid of loose movements. If you fuck up erase it.
Try drawing a image three times with three different times. 5mins, 10mins and 15 mins.

[Anonymous No.4822644]

Is it bad to never finish a full drawing?

[Anonymous No.4822646]

[Anonymous No.4822650]

>>4822644
If you're still at an early learning stage, then it's fine because usually you just lack the necessary skills to fully finish a drawing, but the moment you're somewhat competent with all your fundies you should be aiming to occasionally fully finish a drawing (even if you think unfinished looks better than finished - you won't be getting better at making finished works if you're too scared of actually finishing anything.)

[Anonymous No.4822706]

>>4822241
hes redlined a lot of my daily faces thats how i know him and i recognise his style in /draw/ sometimes

[Anonymous No.4822708]

>>4822646
your ear is tilting the wrong way and its a lil small, apart from that youre on the right track

[Anonymous No.4822718]

Loomis heads. Any crit?

[Anonymous No.4822719]

>>4822179
Something about this makes me think symbol drawing but it's so well done that it actually works and is appealing. Eyes and lips mostly. I love the smooth blending but at times it looks like you're not describing the form all that well, I think since its a woman it works fine because it's better to err on the side of less detail and shading, but just keep it in mind for future drawings.

[Anonymous No.4822721]

I wanted to sketch as practice and ended up animating my fanfic theory in 6 hours non stop, about 50 frames.
This has to count for something lol, I think I got faster at drawing, I could do a comic

[Anonymous No.4822724]

One of the things I've come to notice is that people tend to leave you alone when you're low /beg/. But once you reach a certain threshold, maybe around mid /beg/ level, the reaction from your art seems to change. If you draw anything besides pinups of buxom human women. If you are drawing anything besides titty monster women with 5 foot wide hips, at least on 4chan, you seem to get endlessly bitched at. "Dude why are you drawing that?" "Seriously?" "Who fucking draws that"

Will this bickering continue as I progress? Do people really get upset that some mid beg shitter isn't drawing another gay and pointless pinup of a woman with fertility goddess proportions?

[Anonymous No.4822731]

>>4822721
i dont really have an interest in action oriented stuff but this is pretty neat, anon.

[Anonymous No.4822733]

>>4821882
Scott Robertson

[Anonymous No.4822734]

>>4821956
Nah do it on paper first.

[Anonymous No.4822736]

>>4822370
pretty neat

[Anonymous No.4822741]

>>4822721
go to the animation thread anon youll get some better advise there

[Anonymous No.4822831]

Am i still /beg/

[Anonymous No.4822834]

>>4822831

[Anonymous No.4822836]

>>4822834

[Anonymous No.4822842]

>>4822831
>>4822834
>>4822836

there more to getting out of beg that simple drapery, but saying that these are nice yes

[Anonymous No.4822862]

>>4822370
you got some pastel-like blending on the nose that's working very well. if the hair wasn't so lumpy and the eyes were properly lit this would look really good i think.

[Anonymous No.4822946]

how do i line sketches with it being shit

[Anonymous No.4822947]

>>4822946
without it*

[Anonymous No.4822951]

>>4822947
Stop drawing shitty furry characters and practice fundies with a hard round brush

[Anonymous No.4822954]

>>4822951
which brush is hard round brush in csp

[Anonymous No.4822964]

>>4822954
I think you have to make one. Remove texture and change the tip to round, remove size pressure and turn on pressure opacity

[Anonymous No.4822968]

>>4822964
this brush feels inferior in every way but i'll trust you anon

[Anonymous No.4822988]

>>4822968
Yeah it kind of does, try changing the hardness if you think it looks a bit messy. A little airbrush goes a long way. It’s good to get the general colour/value but I wouldn’t use it for detail. If you want more csp brushes I think the daub ones are pretty good.

[Anonymous No.4822998]

>>4822988
DAUB 2b is my go-to for doodling they are very nice.

[Anonymous No.4823065]

>>4820026
How bad is this?

[Anonymous No.4823083]

>>4823065
The detailed clothes doesn't really match the simple dot face, but overall it looks good.

[Anonymous No.4823183]

[Anonymous No.4823221]

>>4823065
I quite like the coloring style and pose. I'm no anatomy master so I can't tell you what's technically wrong with it, but it is appealing which I feel is good. The head feels very flat compared to the body though.

[Anonymous No.4823267]

I'm worried about how I'm going to render this piece. I haven't worked into the background yet, but I have the basic idea of where my light is coming from and have placed in a little bit of the render on the character, but I feel like what I currently have is very unappealing and disjointed because some parts are over-rendered and other parts are super choppy.

[Anonymous No.4823316]

Ah yes, /beg/, advanced render study thread

[Anonymous No.4823318]

>>4823267
added some lost edges, also there is one inverted hand

[Anonymous No.4823327]

>>4823318
Thanks a ton! I can't believe I didn't notice inverted the hand.

[Anonymous No.4823349]

how do i stop things from looking sloppy

[Anonymous No.4823365]

>>4823349
accuracy

[Anonymous No.4823378]

>>4823318
woulda liked to see a recording of you doing this

[Anonymous No.4823392]

say something honest

[Anonymous No.4823399]

>>4823392
weird and gross but thats what you were going for i assume
maybe work on construction

[Anonymous No.4823401]

>>4823378
i just used some layers with overlay, multiply and normal, the first two are to change the values without losing a lot of the details already in there, the normal layer was for the lost edges. i mostly used very large air brush, they are great for making these adjustment quickly

[Anonymous No.4823410]

>>4823365
what you mean

[Anonymous No.4823420]

>>4823410
knowing perspective, construction, proportion, anatomy really really well. doing some gesture drawings as warm up before drawing help a lot too

[Anonymous No.4823434]

>>4822447
that took longer than 15 minutes, my bad there. Look I do rush but I try to have solid basic shapes and then i darken, it's there when I rush because I have some sort of confidence or hope that the construction phase shines through

[Anonymous No.4823441]

>>4823420
what about linework

[Anonymous No.4823449]

>>4823441
fuck is linework

[Anonymous No.4823451]

>>4823441
you mean inking? a lot of patience and paper/digital canvas rotations

[Anonymous No.4823452]

>>4823449
is this an actual question

[Anonymous No.4823463]

>>4823441
https://youtu.be/HjUv0Zv0T8o?t=377

[Anonymous No.4823470]

>>4823449
based sketch-only chad

[Anonymous No.4823480]

>>4823463
that's helpful but what are these exact exercises he's talking about?

[Anonymous No.4823492]

>>4823480
like i understand what he's talking about, but i want to know specific practices

[Anonymous No.4823493]

How good at gesture do I need to be before I can start adding mannequins to them like hampton suggests?

[Anonymous No.4823495]

>>4823401
thanks lad

[Anonymous No.4823537]

>>4823480
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVBsottz0eA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAlCyQqEZSU&list=PLgKJMTFp_25iQVZ6ItpZKTSN9Yo44YSTs&index=6
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/3
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/tablesofellipses
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/superimposedlines
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/ghostedlines
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/ghostedplanes
Learn perspective, perspective is just straight lines (boxes, cubes) and circles (cylinder, ellipses).
Dexterity = Perspective = Dexterity = accuracy
>accuracy
or you can learn how to measure proportions
https://www.dorian-iten.com/accuracy/

[Anonymous No.4823543]

>>4822446
remember that the face has depth, its not just a flat sheet.

[Anonymous No.4823545]

>>4822446
Damn right the shadings off that guy in the back is black

[Anonymous No.4823571]

>>4823493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpejM-T9YG0
>mannequins
You need to know how to rotate boxes and cylinders
>>4821960

[Anonymous No.4823586]

>>4823545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqvFjJTIJx8

[Anonymous No.4823599]

Where do I learn to draw...stuff

Like, Machines and tools and computers

I want to draw cool robot friends

[Anonymous No.4823606]

>>4823599
get machinery references, draw them until you get familiar with the imagery, then add to your friends

[Anonymous No.4823612]

>>4823599
>robot
Master Perspective
>How to Draw by Scott Robertson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MV-bJz1dcw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li2qw57PqZI

[Anonymous No.4823614]

>>4823606
>>4823612
Hell yeah dudes, thanks

[Anonymous No.4823655]

>>4822733

[Anonymous No.4823662]

>>4823655
it's easy, only the start is hard

[Anonymous No.4823667]

goddamn drawabox falls apart in lesson 2 when he actually has to start explaining shit. but im going to power through this for all you guys so i can be 100% sure i wasted my time

[Anonymous No.4823672]

>>4821491
Niceu desu ka, wheel perspective is probably the weakest link but that’s understandable since ellipses are gay, I like the slight touch of rim lighting

[Anonymous No.4823674]

26 aug 2020

[Anonymous No.4823675]

I honestly don’t get perspective and anatomy. I have a hard time implementing it correctly. Any corrections I should make to this drawing?

[Anonymous No.4823681]

>>4823675
draw something simpler than people, there's far too much to articulate when you're drawing the human figure, so you need to build up your vocabulary and ability to memorize how shapes are interacting in space.

[Anonymous No.4823684]

>>4823675
stop posting the exact same garbage drawing and study your fundies

[Anonymous No.4823697]

>>4823614
when someone just answers "scott robertson" its because they are copying other people who have said that but it guarantees that they themselves have no idea how to draw cars and machinery, they just see his name thrown around on ic and they saw the car on the cover of his book. scott robertsons books are extremely complicated circle jerk technical manuals. no one is gonna learn anything from them.

the way to draw cars is to start out by learning the side view. its easy because you don't have to worry about symmetry in perspective. it will teach you proportion. itll give you muscle memory. youll understand how to set up a car sketch, using wheels as points of reference and getting an idea of what kinds of cars you like etc. proportion is everything from this angle. once you get to the point that you can do that on auto pilot, you can start working on rendering it. and rendering is just a study exercise. just copy photos to teach you which parts are in shadow, which are highlights, which reflect, etc. no other way to do it.

then over time, you can work up to a 3/4 view. and that really just comes down to being good at drawing in general because you're now at the mercy of perspective. you have to nail it. you have to make it symmetrical. thousands of youtube videos about it from hundreds of artists. sanwong seok (skeren) is good. chip foose. sketchmonkey is one of the worst imo and is one of the few artists that might actually set you back.

personally i never ever draw from reference. i dont see a point. i only sketch cars for fun and i always do it from imagination. usually i don't have a plan before i start. i just know what looks right. ill make it work. i do not "see" the car on the paper and trace it like some people like to pretend they do. ive just done it so many times that i have a decent idea of what works and what doesn't. ic can't draw cars. if you wanna argue with me, pyw or dont expect a reply.

[Anonymous No.4823728]

>>4823675
Yeah you need to study proportions and anatomy and then redraw the whole thing

[Anonymous No.4823731]

>>4823697
Scott Robertson literally has whole chapters on drawing cars. Are you just feigning stupidity or were you born this retarded?

[Anonymous No.4823748]

>>4822646
i tried to do an eye breakdown up top.

[Anonymous No.4823749]

Eye study.
Which ones do you guys like the most?

[Anonymous No.4823751]

>>4823749
3rd from the left up top.

[Anonymous No.4823813]

Fucked about with my new tablet. Still garbage at art. The star giving off a strong light was an afterthought but I decided that I would draw something at least daily, even if it's garbage.

I should see if someone has adapted the Ibispaint brushes to Krita, I'm better with those.

[Anonymous No.4823827]

which loomis book is the one that isn't a meme

[Anonymous No.4823828]

>>4823731
you didn't learn to draw cars from his books.
and you probably can't draw cars at all so keep your dumb wrong opinions to yourself. no one argued that he covers that shit in his books. that isn't what i said you illiterate.

[Anonymous No.4823846]

[Anonymous No.4823851]

Should I stop drawing in this cartoony-style?

[Anonymous No.4823891]

>>4823749
don't draw eyes like that. you are basically drawing the negative space. an eye is a sphere and park of the sphere is blocked by the eye lids. when you just draw the opening, it immediately looks cartoony and amateurish. when starting out, draw the sphere. learn to think about it in 3d. draw the lids as something with thickness that goes across the surface of the sphere

[Anonymous No.4823895]

>>4823851
No. Now draw her nude.

[Anonymous No.4823898]

[This thing I drew at work No.4823905]

[Anonymous No.4823927]

>>4823748
this looks like ass

[Anonymous No.4823949]

>>4821832
Finished it. I think I missed the point of the exercise because it took me an entire day and I was pretty slow. I keep copying what I see, not actually drawing.

[Anonymous No.4823954]

>>4823949
Also I smudge so fucking much.

[Anonymous No.4823965]

>>4823891
Thats usefull

[Anonymous No.4823977]

>>4823748
looks a bit like joji

[Anonymous No.4823982]

>>4823949
not really.
Take as much time as you want, as long as it's accurate.
The exercise want you to copy what you see, so you won't symbol draw.

[Anonymous No.4823984]

Decided to start figure drawing last week, studying from Michael Hampton's Design and Invention. I'm currently practicing gestures. Any tips?

[Anonymous No.4823998]

>>4823748
Wtf how do I get this good at heads from imagination?

[Anonymous No.4824062]

>>4823982
What is symbol-drawing? I didn't understand what the sticky meant. I'm pretty good at sight drawing. I practised on birds at school back in the day.

[Anonymous No.4824064]

>>4824062
Note: The King fisher wasn't at my school

[Anonymous No.4824073]

>>4820026
HOLY FUCK I CAN'T EVEN THINK OF ANY POSE THAT'S NOT JUST 3/4

[Anonymous No.4824089]

>>4824062
lots of chicken scratching. It creates very fuzzy shapes and hard to read lines that are unpleasant to look at. The student line (long lines, but multiple of them stacked ontop of eachother) does have line confidence issues as well however the student line doesnt have unclear shapes and is less unpleasant to look at which is why its generally considered an upgrade. I would suggest training your arm/getting mileage to start moving onto better lines would be my crit

[Anonymous No.4824097]

>>4824089
I can see it now. Thanks. I think that's why I was so slow with the Picasso. I wasn't really moving away from symbol drawing.

[Anonymous No.4824098]

>>4824062
symbol drawings have way too many meanings around.
But to me, it means you are drawing what you think it looks like, instead of what it is.
Like in your bird pictures, the bottom right's bird.
Does the head's feather look like that?
Or you're just scribble lines that you think would represent tthe feathers?
Is the eye only a few circles?
Or you're again just drawing circles to represent the eye?
Your bird drawings are mostly just symbol drawing.

[Anonymous No.4824106]

>>4824098
I did most of it without symbol-drawing. Just the feathers.

[Anonymous No.4824107]

Guys, I have a huge problems with perceiving round objects in 3D space. I just don't feel the form. I can put a shadow where it's supposed to go and make things look round but whenever it comes down to putting another shape on a sphere/cylinder i.e. nose/eyes on a face I always fuck up their placement because I don't feel the curvature of the shape they are supposed to be attached to.
Maybe it's normal and I sperg out over nothing?
When I draw heads I always fuck up the face because I simply can't feel the shape

[Anonymous No.4824108]

flat?

[Anonymous No.4824116]

>>4824108
Sticc

[Anonymous No.4824117]

I have been drawing for 3 years and still can't into free hand symmetry. Every time I need to make things symmetrical, it takes me around 10-15 minutes to do so. So how do I train my symmetry? Please help.

[Anonymous No.4824126]

>>4824108
looks interesting

[Anonymous No.4824127]

>>4824117

grids

[Anonymous No.4824136]

yeah hes pretty much perfect but i guess ill try inking tomorrow and see how much worse i can fuck him up

[Anonymous No.4824151]

>>4824117
It's literally the first topic in Peter Han's Dynamic Sketching course. Check the vid thread.

[Anonymous No.4824166]

anyone gone through the fundamentals course on schoolism? i’m looking for guidance on line quality and how to observe/“see” correctly. cost isn’t much of a concern; just checking if the material is actually good.

[Anonymous No.4824184]

>>4824107
How long have you been drawing? It's pretty normal to start which is why a lot of people like drawabox. Unironically drawing a bunch of boxes will help you a lot with feeling 3D space.

>>4823984
Not bad at all anon. How long were they?

>>4824062
Symbol drawing is often defined loosely around here. As far as I know the 'official' meaning of symbol drawing is when you resort to simplifying objects to basic shapes or symbols instead of drawing the contours as they are. For example, it's pretty common to draw eyes as dots instead of lining them out as >>4823891 shows quite nicely, or to represent a house as a triangle on top of a box.

It was an evolutionary advantage originally - if you can draw a recognizable symbolic tree as a puff on top of a stick in 3 seconds as opposed to drawing a realistic tree in 5 minutes, you'll have a much easier time communicating simple concepts such as 'there's a lion behind that tree.' A huge part of drawing is actually getting your stupid ape brain out of its own way.

>>4824136
Not too bad anon. I think the really hard lines on the nose sort of throw me off, try toning them back a bit where the nose flows smoothly into the face.

[Anonymous No.4824186]

>>4824106
It's hard to notice your own symbol drawing.
I have a hard time with that too.
But you're symbol drawing on everything.

Let's take the wing as example.
The shape is not even the same.
And this is not inaccuracy.
Because you used one oval shape to represent the wing instead of dissecting it into feathers.
You're only drawing a rough contour of everything.

[Anonymous No.4824188]

>>4824186
This was the exact pic I used.
Man, thanks for pointing this out.

[Anonymous No.4824193]

>>4824186
>You're only drawing a rough contour of everything.
That was kinda the intention. I knew I couldn't do the wings well so I stuck to a contour. This was before I tried taking it seriously.

I'm learning art as a sort of therapy.

[Anonymous No.4824238]

which loomis book am i supposed to read first

[Anonymous No.4824245]

loomis heads

[Anonymous No.4824246]

>>4824238
>supposed to read first
None of them. Without prior knowledge in perspective, they maybe will feel too hard for you.
Start with perspective. Then rendering. Then whatever the hell you set out to do in the first place.

[Anonymous No.4824247]

>>4824238
Pain with pencil, how everyone can’t draw

[Anonymous No.4824255]

>>4820026

[Anonymous No.4824256]

Orcs and a goblin. Still trying to nail down a look for the orcs. It's only been a year. Oh, god, I'm NGMI somebody kill me I wish my dick would get chopped off while I sleep and I'd bleed to death so I'd wake up dead.

[Anonymous No.4824258]

After reading Vilppu and Hampton, I still don't fully understand what they were going for in gesture drawing. Yes, I understand the concept of lines leading into other lines to create movement and the whole body being a system of counterbalances, but these poses don't feel "actiony" enough.

[Anonymous No.4824265]

Working on gesture again. Can anyone tell what this guy is doing? Anything more it needs? I’m pleasantly surprised but not sure if I should add more volume or contours/cross contour lines, or if this is just right (for pure gesture for now)

[Anonymous No.4824278]

>>4824258
Maybe exaggerate more? They always say to exaggerate the pose and it’ll look more dynamic. I’m just starting to learn gesture too but that’s what everyone seems to say at the start, and yours look a little stiff.

[Anonymous No.4824284]

>>4824258

[Anonymous No.4824296]

>>4824258
make head sizes more proportional. Thats why it looks off

[Anonymous No.4824331]

>>4820026
Is using a drawing tablet to practice things like Loomis heads and other construction methods on top of a reference cheating or a bad habit? It seems like a way to kill two birds in terms of learning to use a tablet and better understanding construction which I'm struggling with right now.

[Anonymous No.4824335]

>>4824331
honestly, thats genuinely a good idea

[Anonymous No.4824374]

I've taken two of Rich Grayson courses on drawing and anatomy. My goal from the start was to do the sexy stuff. I draw most of the day usually stuff like this and am in a bit of a rut, what should I look into to improve?

[Anonymous No.4824392]

>>4824245
BLESSED POST, WILL DRAW AMERIMUTTS TODAY TOO

[Anonymous No.4824398]

>>4824374
Fucking disgusting, both anatomy and pic itself

[Anonymous No.4824424]

>>4824374
Vile

[Anonymous No.4824426]

so this is the power of loomis...

[Anonymous No.4824428]

>>4820026
I've read fun with a pencil and I have a huion h420. How do I steady my hand so my stuff turns out better?

[Anonymous No.4824431]

>>4824374
Dios mio...

[Anonymous No.4824433]

>>4824374
El diablo mo demonio

[Anonymous No.4824451]

Is it me or /begs/ have been posting some quality work on these threads lately? Nice to see everyone is improving

Picrel a doodle I made last night, it may not look good but it's a lot better than stuff I made 4 months ago

[Anonymous No.4824468]

>>4822718
What are Loomis heads? What is a vanishing point? What's your opinion about Garfield?

[Anonymous No.4824473]

>>4824451
dude good job!

[Anonymous No.4824511]

>>4824374
You gave the whitest bitch the horse pussy, wtf bro?

[Anonymous No.4824540]

>>4823748
I tried to do the same and, its not the worst thing ever, but... What is wrong with the eyes? I can't for the life of me get the perspective to look good. Where am I fucking up?

[Anonymous No.4824545]

>>4824540
I dont know why the image sideways, my picture is literally rightside up then it posts sideways. Shit's weird.

[Anonymous No.4824562]

[Anonymous No.4824566]

What can I improve on here? Personally I can see now that my lineart needs to be thinner to achieve a more professional look. Critiques please

[Anonymous No.4824567]

>>4824566
same poster. How do I backgrounds as well. if anybody can give me advice on that?

[Anonymous No.4824569]

Muscles are dumb.

[Anonymous No.4824572]

I recently bought my first digital tablet and i like to draw animu stuff. If you have advice for this fellow /beg/ it would be nice

Also any of you have the link to the pastebin of books that used to be here ? Or at least i remember it was on this thread.

[Anonymous No.4824576]

>>4824572
go to catalog, ctrl f and search for the artbooks thread

[Anonymous No.4824668]

new thread >>4824667

new thread >>4824667

new thread >>4824667

[Anonymous No.4824708]

>>4824184

Top row was 2 minutes each
Bottom row was 1 minute
And the one on the right was 5 mins

[Anonymous No.4824757]

>>4824451
this is quality work as well my friend, keep up the good work

[Anonymous No.4824861]

>>4824246
>Start with perspective. Then rendering.
Do not do this.
Line control
Angle control
Perspective
Construction
Observation
Gesture
Anatomy
Lighting
Color
Rendering
Composition
Design
Style

That order.

[Anonymous No.4824996]

What's a good construction source I can look at for figure drawing? I've just finished Brent Eviston's gesture course and thought it was really good and exactly what I needed, but now I'd like to have an alternate method to balance it out for when I want to be more technical.

[Anonymous No.4824997]

>>4824255
Cleaned it up a bit

[Anonymous No.4825002]

>>4824511
I did think it was a bit big, but I figured what the hell.

[Anonymous No.4825007]

>>4824398
I see , I'll got take another course on anatomy.

[Anonymous No.4825013]

Does anyone know any resources for learning to use line weight well? Both in pencil and with fineliner I feel like my lines are really clumsy and uneven in terms of weight.

[Anonymous No.4825091]

>>4824473
>>4824757
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.4825468]

>>4820026 studying the capcom anatomy guide atm. tips?

[Anonymous No.4825738]

I made crab-chan, can you guys give some critic on it and what i should focus on studying

[Anonymous No.4826019]

next 7 days i think i'll do some still lifes

[Anonymous No.4826036]

new thread >>4824667

new thread >>4824667

new thread >>4824667

[mug No.4826224]

>>4820036
looks good but you have to know you copped out of actually drawing two distinct hands and her right breast looks wrong because it isn't in accordance with the eye level of the viewer. honestly you might be able to cheat the system by just making it bigger.