/vent/ thread

[Anonymous No.4746586]

the thread that we'll listen to your artist pains, etc

[Anonymous No.4746614]

I’m never using doordash and apps like it ever again

[Anonymous No.4746621]

I hate drawing. It's boring.

[Anonymous No.4746627]

I don't understand how to make my drawings readable as thumbnails

[Anonymous No.4746631]

>>4746627
studying gesture will help you convey meaning with relatively few lines

[Anonymous No.4746647]

>>4746631
oh, no, sorry for the vague vent: I'm fine at the gesture and sketch phases, it's when I put colors in that the problem surfaces.

[Anonymous No.4746686]

>>4746586
being an artist is really lonely. even if i go through all the motions to try and make friends and meet people, it's hard to relate to their lives at all.
>>4746647
try working your way up to it, practice w/ two tone warm/cool washes. value and temperature are the keys to everything. doing a fuck ton of color studies from life also helps.

[Anonymous No.4746688]

>>4746686
>being an artist is really lonely
I’m with you, buddy.

[Anonymous No.4746701]

>>4746686
>warm/cool
that's something I always neglect. Thanks, I'll try using that approach next time

[Anonymous No.4746713]

>>4746621
You like drawing. It's fun. Repeat after me!

[Anonymous No.4746732]

I've started drawing because I had a cool story idea, which I wanted to put into comic. Since then I've realized it was actually pretty retarded and gradually ditched the whole thing.
I never much cared about drawing itself, I just wanted to tell a story and comic seemed like the best medium for that (no one would read a novel and I never would get together the means to make a movie). But now I have no motivation to keep drawing, but at the same time I fell it would be a shame to give it all up.

[Anonymous No.4746733]

I just want the money, I fucking hate drawing

[Anonymous No.4746739]

I've started drawing because I wanted to make adult games. Not even for profit, just to make more of my favorite niche genre.
Now that I'm somewhat a bit decent at drawing, I realize that writing stories is a skill I don't really have either...

[Anonymous No.4746740]

>>4746732
write that shit down. And more importantly, don't give up on it.
You can always improve it. Don't let that dream die.

[Anonymous No.4746744]

I want to draw porn but at the same time I am also disgusted at this part of me and I don't want it to be a part of my identity as an artist either

[Anonymous No.4746749]

I haven't made a finished displayable piece in years. I fell in the study trap and I don't know how to approach anything beyond the sketch.
Even my sketches are not that good.

[Anonymous No.4746756]

I AM TRYING TO FIND A FUCKING SOFTWARE FOR ANIMATION AND ITS AAAAALLL A PAIN THE THE FUCKING ASS I AM SO DAMN FUCKING MAD YOU CANT BELIEVE IT

WHY is tvpaint fucking 500 $$$$$$ ??????

[Anonymous No.4746783]

>>4746756
try out opentoonz and pencil2D as free options

also Krita has the naimation interface and it is pretty competent as animation software, unless you got janky computer krita isnt very optimized to run smoothly on toasters

[Anonymous No.4746796]

>>4746733
bro then pick up a new hobbie like compose music or knit and become a garbage man or somthing ull make money at least. there is no money to be made esp for u if u fukn hate it.

[Anonymous No.4746814]

>>4746647
Watch mullins' schoolism course on the five value studies. Basically just thumbnail with those five values - there's loads of examples on artstation - and fill the flats in with colours. Works well on anime too on top of anything realistic!

[Anonymous No.4746821]

I want to die.

[Anonymous No.4746828]

I can't feel the form.

[Anonymous No.4746829]

>>4746586
Why is anatomy so fucking difficult? I'm only learning art as a hobby but anatomy and bodies are fucking difficult.

[Anonymous No.4746831]

>>4746739
>adult games

I mean, do you NEED writing skills for that kind of story?

[Anonymous No.4746855]

>>4746756
Try Blender?
Try CSP EX with OpenToonz

[Anonymous No.4746900]

>>4746831
surprisingly, yes. Because what I want to make involve stories and plots and characters, not just click'n'fap material

[Anonymous No.4746969]

>>4746814
sounds interesting, do you have any link to that, by chance?

[Anonymous No.4747072]

[Anonymous No.4747083]

>>4746744
draw porn, don't post porn, delete porn

[Anonymous No.4747087]

>>4746821
are you sure?

[Anonymous No.4747179]

MY POSTS GET WAY MORE LIKES THAN I HAVE FOLLOWERS
WHY WON'T THESE FUCKERS JUST FOLLOW ME ALREADY AHHH
MY PERSONAL INSTAGRAM WHERE I POST SHITTY FUCKING SELFIES GETS 100S OF LIKES WITH ZERO EFFORT. WHY IS THIS SO HARD

[Anonymous No.4747196]

>>4746744
Same, I think after I'm done with this project, I'm going to do tasteful lewds. I prefer teasing than the end result
The only reason I want to get into drawing porn is because you get more followers/likes/commission potential tho and not because I really enjoy it that much

[Anonymous No.4747205]

I fucking hate drawing buildings and landscapes. It just doesn't speak to me, and getting all the little details for stuff just takes up so much time, but it's needed if you don't want things to look crappy.

But at the end, I can't even be happy, because it's just a landscape/building, not a person..... but you need a place setting for people to interact in. Fucking hell.

[Anonymous No.4747258]

my stuff all look lacking to me. im fairly sure it's the brushes. i want to know just exactly what the brushes or settings others use. im just too much of a brainlet to make my own

[Anonymous No.4747273]

>>4747258
unironicaly pyw so we can check what's lacking or not.
Personaly I use hard round brush 95% of the time. I know it's a meme at this point but this is how i do. I use smudge tool and gradient tool when needed.
Lasso tool is the best for sharpness and organic shapes.

[Anonymous No.4747275]

>>4747258
What program do you use?

[Anonymous No.4747280]

>>4746900
That's why most vn's are made by teams of people. It's really hard to both be a good writer and an artist. I really can only think of SCA-JI if I were to find someone like this. And also you really don't need good art skills if you are a REALLY good writer like Ryukishi for example.
So if you want to make VNs really badly then focus more on writing since decent art is just enough.

[Anonymous No.4747292]

>>4747280
fuck I use 'really' a lot

[Anonymous No.4747342]

>>4747280
I know, I think my art is truly "decent enough". It's not great by any means, but it's getting better and I draw every day to get better. I also know how to code and I played music in my youth, so I've got all that covered...
But I really, REALLY underestimated the writing part. I realize that now...

[Anonymous No.4747373]

art hard

[Anonymous No.4747379]

>>4747342
Remember that writing is a skill just like drawing. If you want to get good you have to write a lot. And read even more since what you have read is your reference when you write yourself.

[Anonymous No.4747543]

>"man x thing about my drawing looks so shit"
>post it somewhere asking for crits
>"y and z need more work"
>"what about x?"
Every time
>"looks alright"

[Anonymous No.4747552]

>longtime ic friendo is actually making money with a patreon and his art isn’t even that good
I’m honestly shocked. Feels bad I am not where he is.

[Anonymous No.4747749]

I can't wait until I'm good enough to leave /beg/ and join the real threads

[Anonymous No.4747757]

Since I know you read these threads, and you know who I am, I'll just say it here without adding you back. I think it would be best for us to just forget about each other like you said. I just cause you and those around me grief and trouble. It's not just you, but I think I'm done with /ic/ as a whole in general. It has nothing more to provide me other than an RSS feed of who is getting canceled to the occasional resource that gets dropped that I don't even go through anyway. It's pointless being here and wasting another year here when all the friends I made here are doing better off than me by social following/making money is just aggravating. I fail myself but I also fail others.

I thought about adding back all the people I knew, including you, but the same repeating pattern would just occur--letting myself down and dragging others in negativity may it be minuscule or not. I just no longer feel a good vibe between us and feel something is off.

I've been here religiously since 2014 and I think it's just time to leave 4chan behind and all forms of social media until I can work myself out and be the better artist and person I want to be however long that takes. So this is goodbye. I do hope you continue to chase your dreams wherever they might be.

[Anonymous No.4747765]

>>4747757
Wait what? you can actualy make friends on 4chan??

[Anonymous No.4747787]

>>4747757
see you next week

[Anonymous No.4747792]

>>4747087
well I sure as hell don't want to live

[Anonymous No.4747793]

>>4747749
The real threads are /beg/ 2.0, you ain’t missing much.

[Anonymous No.4747815]

>>4747757
Go ahead if it makes you feel better.
It may sound strange coming from me out of all people, but I don't really mind talking if you're in a better mood and feel like it.

[Anonymous No.4747837]

>>4747792
maybe you just don't want to live your life

[Anonymous No.4747852]

>>4747749
but beg is so comfy.

[Anonymous No.4747857]

How do you not get burnt out from the grind?

[Anonymous No.4747859]

>>4747837
Obviously.

[Anonymous No.4747863]

Honestly losing passion and seriousness made better workflow

[Anonymous No.4747865]

>>4747857
Take a break from grinding and have fun. Draw what you like, without judging yourself.

[Anonymous No.4747868]

>>4747857
Just draw more and eventually you’ll unlock autopilot mode.

[Anonymous No.4747875]

>>4747857
i just like grinding with masters i enjoy listening to

[Anonymous No.4747877]

i hate perspective so much but i will power thru it because im not gonna spend my whole career running from it but fuck me this shit is BORING

[Anonymous No.4748065]

im an autistic renderfag with ocd and i feel like my drawings are incomplete and worse than others if i dont spend 50 hours trying to draw a full rendered pic with background every time
the process isnt fun at all but in the end makes me happy for a few days until i look back weeks later and see all the flaws and start feeling sad again

[Anonymous No.4748084]

>>4747757
>imagine breaking up with someone in a brazilian truck vlogging forum

[Anonymous No.4748089]

>>4748065
Art is never finished, only abandoned.

- dicaprio leonardo

[Anonymous No.4748108]

>>4748089
thanks, i try to see it that way too but now im just confused when is it good enough

[Anonymous No.4748112]

I think I am addicted to (You)s

[Anonymous No.4748162]

>>4746614

Grubhub is superior to doordash in every way. At least in my area. Fuck doordash.

>>4747857
I draw goofy shit to make myself laugh in between self-study.

[Anonymous No.4748164]

>>4746586
ive been too depressed to draw lately, i wanna get better. ive lost a friend recently and i just wish i could join a new discord server or something. i wanna make new friends

[Anonymous No.4748175]

>>4748112
Aren't we all?

[Anonymous No.4748229]

I can't draw from the fucking shoulder man, every stroke is shitty and inaccurate and my arm is shaky as hell. Forget about line weight altogether. If I try to force myself my brain screams at me to stop. I've only been drawing for two months now and just been coasting along with my fingers, but I worry that I'm never going to learn good line quality like this

[Anonymous No.4748267]

>>4747815
I'm sorry I acted on my emotions. I have a personality of mine that overthinks meaning and intent and I think too far ahead in areas that are making up scenarios that aren't true. Talking to you really does make me happy and I don't know why that is. Really what it comes down to it is I just needed to let go of my handles carrying the baggage and forget x community exists. I was going to use my old username but it has ties to 4chan and the SRO in google indexes all threads under it. That and there was still a part of me latching onto wanting to be known as some influential figure here (cringy I know). There is a side of me that is more leader type and wants to set by example but I can't be an example to anyone nor can I help you as a fellow artist. I'd love to critqiue your work the best that I can but I can't even do that. I'm worthless and all I can do is provide "cheerleader support".


The community taught me a valuable lesson in drawing frequently but after 2017 I peaked and didn't improve much at all (very slight improvement). So the communities usefuless is long gone. I had the aptitute but along the way I lost "drawing for fun" and became roped on this conquest of "mastering the fundamentals" which just faded my view of what my goals were and became stagant ever since. Stuck in time and running around in circles while I make baseless goals that never reach a finish.

I feel worthless as an artist and as a friend to you and I don't deserve to feel any kind of happiness. Not until I can fix myself. Here I am back ITT posting again which makes me look like a huge liar but I wanted to clarify. What needed to be done was done so I don't have a magnet in my head for them to use on a regular basis to keep me going back in a loop of wasting my time everyday. Giving up 4chan is a bit extreme, but you know the parts I'm takling about that I need to let go for good. Until then, I just don't need any attachable identity.

[Anonymous No.4748273]

>>4748164
i wanna join an art discord too

[Anonymous No.4748278]

>>4748273
i guess you can join the one i made. DM me Kukcs#1445

[Anonymous No.4748325]

Copying stuff is hard, to those who have copied alot it gets easier and more enjoyable to copy stuff right??

[Anonymous No.4748335]

>>4746756
>what is torrenting

[Anonymous No.4748342]

>>4748278
sent you a friend req

[Anonymous No.4748454]

what does it mean when a number of people message you unprompted to say that they love what you make but the engagement toward your works doesn't reflect such sentiments? or people saying such things don't directly show any reaction to anything that you post. I'm mortified to think that I'm just being tolerated in certain spaces when people welcomed me initially and now are tired of me

[Anonymous No.4748490]

>>4748267
Taking a break to reflect on yourself is a good idea, but make sure you don't fall into a spiral of negativity. Sometimes you need to go through lows to reach a high. Make good use of it and try to come back stronger.
Oh, and it's better you don't reply to this post.

[Anonymous No.4748516]

I haven't really enjoyed making art in ages, and I can't tell if it's because I'm trying too hard or if I'm not trying hard enough

[Anonymous No.4748520]

I'm the cautious, analytical type, so naturally I've read so many resources about drawing but I only feel more uncertain and overwhelmed than ever before.

[Anonymous No.4748527]

>>4747205
you know you dont need to do it right

[Anonymous No.4748544]

how do i make art friends

[Anonymous No.4748547]

I'm trying to push myself to draw more but I can't get over how I don't seem to have the same spark or enthusiasm for drawing anymore. I get exhausted faster and I'm just not as curious. My work is boring and uninspiring and I feel like I regressed.

It's slowly coming back though I think. But the near suicidal depression I had about 3 years ago really did some lasting damage I guess. (Mix of work-related toxicity and an abusive/manipulative ex.)

I also regret disappearing on social media and not being as active. Everyone I know has hundreds of followers, if not thousands. I have maybe 5 people who actively follow my stuff.

Maybe I shouldn't complain because I have a good job in the industry already but my definition of "making it" changed to being able to draw my own stuff and being successful for that. I'm tired of how companies tell me what to do and what they think is good. But at the same time, I just can't into the algorithm stuff and I was never really the type to follow trends.

[Anonymous No.4748586]

>>4746586
I thought that I got good and my line art was good, but it seems I was wrong and multiple people told me works are not appealing, some even laughed at me when I told them how long I draw already. The worst part is that I don't see my mistakes, I make something and think "Now THIS looks good" but the people's reaction proves the opposite, and I don't know what to do.I am stagnating at my low level, I don't know how to improve further and I don't understand shit about rendering, I always spend HOURS rendering my works but I can't make event decent flat cell shading... I am feeling desperate and suicidal because drawing was the only way for me to escape crushing poverty in my shitty corrupt country. On top of that, someone's life dependence on my success, if I fail and kill myself, the people will suffer.
I gambled so much on drawing and it didn't pay off, I don't know what to do anymore and I am looking with jealousy at smart/rich people from good families with nice job prospects.

[Anonymous No.4748595]

how the absolute fuck do I render??
>sketch fine
>ink fine
>flat fine
>shade ok
>try to render
>???????
like holy fuck I do not understand

[Anonymous No.4748597]

>>4746732
Literally me
I started two months ago and haven't improved worth shit in terms of drawing from imagination, but I've gotten a lot better at drawing from reference thanks to Keys

[Anonymous No.4748599]

>>4748544
Join a discord group.

[Anonymous No.4748624]

>>4746586
this whole shitty board...
this place was cool at some time when it had constant good resources threads and good insight & discussion; recently it's just a bunch of complaining and shit threads filled with people wanting validation.

[Anonymous No.4748872]

I feel like nobody will ever give a shit about what I draw and it makes me sad.

[Anonymous No.4748876]

>>4748599
well yeah but all art discords i've seen are ones with 500 people and already have their own circles, and anything linked on 4chan is always tainted by edgy people

>>4748872
do YOU give a shit about what you draw?

[Anonymous No.4748878]

>>4748876
Yes. I love my art, even if I am not 100% happy with it. I got a lot of fun with it at least.

[Anonymous No.4748879]

Who would've thought that gesture drawing is going to be this difficult. All my drawing sessions end with the fit of rage where I just spend a whole minute tearing up pages and breaking pens. Unbelievable.

[Anonymous No.4748883]

>>4748879
Stop being a sperg.

[Anonymous No.4748886]

>>4748883
No.

[Anonymous No.4748889]

>>4748878
well there you go, the most important person that you want to give a shit about what you draw is yourself.

Validation is overrated but if you really want it that bad, that enjoyment should be your fuel source until eventually others will start taking notice of your work.

[Anonymous No.4748890]

>>4748889
True, you are right. This is how I am doing it anyway. Just wanted to vent a little here. It is my fault after all, I havent posed for years regularly and it is hard for me to interact with others online. I mostly just want other art friends.

[Anonymous No.4748891]

>>4746586
Feng likes my work, but /ic never does...

[Anonymous No.4748893]

>>4748878
>I got a lot of fun with it at least
teach me how

[Anonymous No.4748895]

>>4748893
Just draw the things you enjoy seeing. I am always happy to finish something even if it isnt exactly how I imagined it. Try to think of stories you like and illustrate them and study the things you need to be able to draw your ideas.

[Anonymous No.4748931]

>>4748624
Should have came before 2016 this place must've been a goldmine of good discussions. Now all the oldfags left and only newfags from tumblr and reddit remain

[Anonymous No.4748932]

>>4748895
I enjoy looking at all sorts of art, but plenty of it doesn't really seem all that fun to actually make myself. Complex urban architecture, super-realistic rendering, mecha stuff, etc... maybe I'm just bad, I dunno

[Anonymous No.4748954]

>>4748932
Then you already know what kind of art you dont want to draw. I too enjoy a lot of different art but there is always a style or concept or story I know I will like creating. Maybe try finding out what kind of styles and subjects you would like to draw? How about making a mood board for that? I think that can help a lot. Make one for styles you think you would like to draw in and one for subjects. I dont think you are bad, you just dont know what you want to create yet.

Try out making a mood board for subjects and one for styles (you like to draw someday) with this: https://www.befunky.com/create/collage/

[Anonymous No.4748986]

>>4748108
>when is it good enough
for me is when I start to get diminished returns, if later on I am really bothered by it I just redo it, it is also a good way to see my progress. but it is up to you. it is done when you say that it is done.

[Anonymous No.4749003]

>>4748954
I think my problem is that I know I enjoy doing simpler work but I can't reconcile that with my fear of being considered a Bad Artist (by myself as well as others) for not doing things that are more ambitious or skill-intensive. I can't tell if being attracted to simple art is a legitimate artistic stance or just a cowardly justification to not try harder. If I avoid embracing it I might still continue on to make decent art, but chances are good I'll never actually enjoy doing it no matter how good I manage to get

[Anonymous No.4749008]

>>4749003
>being attracted to simple art is a legitimate artistic stance
it is and honestly often simpler looking art is way harder because you need to know what to make simple and what to keep. Please dont think that simple art is bad art. Try making that mood board and see what sticks and what YOU want to draw. It doesnt mean you have to draw that way forever + studies help with simple art a lot so you will still be making those.

I know your feelings very well. I felt for a long time a similar way, in the end it only made me stop drawing for 5 years (except some doodles here and there) and only this year I am embrancing what I love and finding joy in creating again. You dont have to draw a certain way forever but please do try to make the kind of art you enjoy creating and dont let your prejudice hold you back.

[Anonymous No.4749025]

It just dawned on me that all the schools in Cali are moving online due to covid. I could quit my job and go full time if I apply for the gib grants from the government. Shit, what an opportunity this is if that is the case.

[Anonymous No.4749085]

>>4748595
for me render is mostly understanding light and shade
start first mastering cel shading then learn how to blend it correctly and add lights to it. then figure out how textures work

[Anonymous No.4749119]

I have absolutely no motivation, I've been wanting to pursue something in art my whole life but now I think I give up. It's too much of a competitive field and I feel I'm not creative enough. Ever since I adopted that mindset I haven't been able to draw. I feel completely talentless. I only really want to continue drawing to make fan art of obscure interests of mine. I really wish I had faith in myself.

[Anonymous No.4749260]

>>4749025
I'm pretty conflicted with this. I looked at 3 schools; LAAFA, Art Center, and Gnomon and Gnomon seems to make the most sense IF I WANT TO DO 3D THAT IS. The 2D offerings seem to be lack luster compared to CGMA at $600/course: https://www.gnomon.edu/academics/foundation-in-art-&-design

Not only that but there isn't a list of teachers but I guess that's what the consultation will go over with me. Even if big daddy government pays for everything that's 10K for what appears to be a worse offering line-up to CGMA. The only benefit I gain here is I don't have to go to work and can focus solely on art, but at my age it's too late to be depending on parents for education without feeling like a leech even if they're okay with it. But I dread wasting my 20s in a dead end job.

[Anonymous No.4749484]

>pony artist tries to come out of comfort zone and tries to draw a human for the first time
>it looks like shit despite him drawing for 10 years
>goes back to drawing ponies and furries

[Anonymous No.4749800]

>>4749484
It’s easy to get away with animal anatomy. Furries are really delusional artists.

[Anonymous No.4749987]

>>4746586
I want to watch THU sketchbook videos but they keep zooming in on the artist's face and these niggas are ugly as fuck. It actually grosses me out and I can't finish most of their videos.

[Anonymous No.4750339]

>>4749085
I found some anime line art to practice on and did these today but shit, I still don't really get it. I like the way the boob and shoulder turned out on this one though, kinda feels like I'm getting somewhere

[Anonymous No.4750343]

>>4750339
pic related is the first one I did right before. More well rounded. I like how her leg turned out but this one is the worse of the two in my opinion. Still, I tried to take your advice and just do a basic blend brush and then add some highlights.

[Anonymous No.4750393]

>>4750339
work on lower half.
Glutes look flat.
>feel the form

[Anonymous No.4750411]

I'm proficient in drawing but lacking in marketing, and my interests are all over the place. I couldn't choose one topic to focus on to save my life, if I limit myself to one thing it'll get boring in a while. Wtf to do? Online marketing is all about consistency. I have a new subject/technique idea which is a bit niche, should I try drawing it everyday in a next month to see if it sticks? If yes, then try making an Instagram and doing my best promoting it? I'm just feeling like I'm always taking shots in the dark

[Anonymous No.4750487]

I feel like I have style down but whenever I try to mix it with whatever fundies I've learned everything I draw comes out as a awkward looking mess. It feels like I'm drawing the figure and then just pasting things like clothes and facial features onto it

[Anonymous No.4750500]

Do you ever see artwork that's just so good and so perfectly made that you question if you yourself will ever even get to that level in your life?

[Anonymous No.4750509]

>>4750500
every damn day, man. Thankfully I've somehow lit a fire in my heart again and I'm striving to achieve the best I can possibly achieve. I feel like I made genuine progress today for the first time in a long time.

[Anonymous No.4750656]

>try to draw
>think my stuff looks decent but not knowing how to do certain things ruins it
>learn all the way from scratch
>feel like I've gotten worse now
Feel like I fucked myself a bit by not learning what i as struggling with first instead trying to relearn the fucking process in which i do things. It's been nothing but frustration since and makes me want to give up sometimes.

[Anonymous No.4750663]

>want to draw anime
>29 y/o
>probably 35+ when i can draw averagely good
>probably 40+ when i can draw professionally
>people will recognize me as the creepy old virgin that draw little japanese girl
Should i give up now while i can?

[Anonymous No.4750668]

>>4746586
how do you make art friends with other similar interests as you

[Anonymous No.4750669]

I finally sucked it up and posted gay art I made for a thread, may god have mercy on me.

[Anonymous No.4750686]

>>4750668
>art friends
Don't even bother.

[Anonymous No.4750694]

>>4750663
You don't have to make your age public if you keep your business online.
Hell, you can even pretend you are a girl.

[Anonymous No.4750698]

>>4750663
>>people will recognize me as the awesome old boomer that draw little japanese girl

There are still plenty of countries that don't have access to the internet and aren't as exposed to any forms of Japanese media. There are countries that censor their internet so much that such content is not accessible. You're living in an era where the world will soon be completely connected. Anime has another 30 to 50 years of shelf-life before it's completely snuffed out and destroyed.

[Anonymous No.4750700]

>>4750668
what are your interests anon

[Anonymous No.4750707]

>>4750700
Anime/manga/karaoke/ usual female targeted weeb stuff I guess what I also mean is someone that clicks well too

[Anonymous No.4750723]

>>4750694
that's true, but it just feels weird.

>>4750698
I don't care about anime's shelf life.
Even if everybody hated it, i will be the last person that like it then.
I'm just concern how others will view me, or at least imagine how others will view me.

[Anonymous No.4750730]

>>4750723
theres plenty of middle aged and up artists that people admire, kim jung gi is old ofcourse, krenz is married with kids, Akihiko Yoshida is old etc etc

[Anonymous No.4750734]

>>4750730
>krenz is married with kids
that's the thing.
A old single man that still draw little girl is pathetic virgin.
A married man drawing little girl is living the dream, basically the chad.

[Anonymous No.4750735]

>>4748454
maybe people don't want to support you publicly

[Anonymous No.4750740]

>>4750734
maybe but being old and still single doesnt really have much to do with you drawing anime

[Anonymous No.4750742]

>>4750740
>Critical Strike!
>You just took -100 mental hp!!

[Anonymous No.4750794]

>Do something new for the first time ever (A single manga page)
>Im so bad at fucking everything that is taking me almost a month to finish it dedicating all my drawing time to it
>Meanwhile there is a shitload of fundies to practice in my backlog
>Still haven't finished and I've learned nothing other than production techniques
I hate that I only have talent at being so unbelievable fucking bad holy fuck!

[Anonymous No.4750806]

>>4750794
give it time, the fundies will pay off

[Anonymous No.4750816]

>>4750806
I don't even know how to practice effectively apparently. I tried the "effective art guide study" many times to no avail. Only thing I have going on for me is "just draw" but I'm not improving despite always practicing, experimenting and commiting to things outside of my comfort zone.

[Anonymous No.4750822]

>>4750816
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shgXNMIriaE

this tells you how to learn things

[Anonymous No.4751043]

I hate how hard it is to learn and study art, but I don't wanna do the just draw meme because I know I'm wasting my time, so I don't draw.

[Anonymous No.4751069]

>Be militaryfag working full time
>Wanna become a good enough artist where I can produce professional level stuff, but don't actually wanna work in the industry or leave the military because I like the shekels and benefits
>My main goal is make my own story-driven webcomics at some point
>Basically wanna be both a 20 year veteran and also a somewhat known artist at the same time
>Unsure how I balance this life style and can't seem to find anyone that ever pulled this off when I look it up
I guess I could either look at this as it would make me "unique" if I actually achieved this or that this is a bad sign and the reason I can't find anyone to look up to is because everyone failed

[Anonymous No.4751073]

>>4751069
Isn't there a successful military webcomic maker out there, like Corporal Lance or something? I guess those are more like short strips, though
You can do it though, just build up a buffer of stories for a few months and then you'll always have updates ready and work on stuff when you can. if you are particularly busy one week, doesn't matter, you have stuff in the queue

[Anonymous No.4751074]

>>4746586
cum

[Anonymous No.4751096]

>>4751074
gross

[Anonymous No.4751098]

>>4751043
why are you here

[Anonymous No.4751101]

>>4751069
How about Bob Ross as a role model, lol.

[Anonymous No.4751132]

youre all whiny weak losers lol what a pathetic thread

[Anonymous No.4751136]

I was working on this giant area and halfway through, 2/3 markers I was using for it died and the third is just a super light grey I was shading with. I can’t find Copic refill ink anywhere online or offline, and the only place near me that sells the actual markers is Hobby Lobby. It’s Sunday. I’m sad.

[Anonymous No.4751157]

>>4751098
because art is cool..

[Anonymous No.4751167]

>>4746828
You need more perspective lessons, then.

[Anonymous No.4751173]

I wish someone could just lock me in a room with a bunch of art books, instructional vids, and art supplies for like a year. Only way my stupid ADD ass could ever get good at anything.

[Anonymous No.4751215]

I feel better getting rid of my account.

[Anonymous No.4751231]

>>4746586
I wasn't lonely until I realized I was alone

[Anonymous No.4751258]

>>4750500
honestly no, I see a lot of artwork that would take me much more work that what I am whiling to do, tho

[Anonymous No.4751259]

>>4750500
Only when I look at the artist's profile like
>Age 14

[Anonymous No.4751262]

shitposts gets much more (you)s than critique and redlines.

[Anonymous No.4751267]

>>4750668
anon, everyone here is your art friend!

[Anonymous No.4751270]

>>4750669
how it did?

[Anonymous No.4751274]

>>4751069
I remember an anon who was in the military and liked to draw cute boys.

[Anonymous No.4751396]

>>4750393
edited it, but the colors are a little messy because I didn't also save it as a psd so the lines are blending a little too. Anyway how is this?

[Anonymous No.4751404]

>>4751396
There is no body/muscle definition in her torso. Find references of this area similar to that angle to figure out how to shade that area. Rendering from memory will bard if you don't have a clear idea of anatomy and lighting

[Anonymous No.4751411]

>>4751404
baby steps, anon. I only just started trying to break out of basic cel shading literally yesterday. Just using basic linework I find online to practice for now. Will move on to muscle definition when I'm comfortable with more basic parts.

does her ass look okay though?

[Anonymous No.4751441]

I've got two complete trad works and no way to photograph them.

>new smartphone, middling camera, color balance is lies
>bad indoor lighting, overcast outside
>have money for cheap*** dslr
>cant deposit money, local banks closed except by appointment, all poorly rated
>printer/scanner too small and ancient

Just about McClucking had it....

[Anonymous No.4751467]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I'VE DONE IT MR EVISTON. I'VE MADE A BEAUTIFUL LINE, UNIQUE, DARK, STRIKING, I HAD TO BREAK MY PENCIL BUT IT WAS WORTH IT

[Anonymous No.4751485]

>>4751441
>bestbuy website
>get a Bower flexible 24" ring light
>attaches to desk, powered by USB
>bend the arm down toward page, take picture through the center of the ring
>import
>color balance
that's what I've been doing and shit is like magic. Great especially if you like working in sketchbooks instead of loose pages. Alternatively, you can
>get portable scanner for cheap
>like $70 (iirc) for their cheapest model
>scans pages up to 8.5 inches wide but up to 72 inches long
>doesn't require ink refills like typical scan-print combos
Not sure the size of your works but I recommend the ring light anyways. Shit's been a godsend. I have 30 watt bulbs in my room and a tree beside my window so I definitely felt your pain. It's like $30 but it's worth it. Also has an arm for your phone if you want to record a timelapse or something. It was designed for vlogging and shit but fuck that.

[Anonymous No.4751495]

>>4751270
I didn't get laughed at so I consider it a success.

[Anonymous No.4751537]

>>4751485
Based photo anon! Thank you.
Gonna try your suggestions before I spend too much dosh.
My works are small-ish- about 12x18 inches. I may not be able to fit everything into the printer, but an extra light couldnt hurt.

[Anonymous No.4751608]

>click on an ad for porn
>it actually took me to something interesting
Well well....maybe I should disable Adblock

[Anonymous No.4751609]

>>4751411
maybe try following how this guy did his rendering. its a slightly similar pose and lighting with tan skin that brings the shines onto important parts

[Anonymous No.4751617]

If you do pic related then fuck you.

Also leaving twitter has been a godsend for my mental health. Seeing artists whine all the time about their lives and how they don't feel good enough is annoying as hell.

Either draw some more or give up. Nobody cares about your depression or mental state. Just DRAW.

[Anonymous No.4751626]

>>4750668
Art friends are some of the most toxic people you'll ever meet. They'll stab you in the back if it means getting money. Don't bother making art friends. It'll only end in bitterness.

Besides every artist is your competition after all. Why would you befriend your competitor?

[Anonymous No.4751633]

>>4751626
Let me get this straight, from your perspective a children’s book illustrator is in your ballpark of competition if you’re drawing space marines and dragons for the upcoming WoWSC mmorpg? An anime artist is in the same field as someone whose just does portraits? A webcomic artist is your competition if you’re an environment artist?

Even if you share a common goal you’re still probably only going to draw certain fandoms. And the audience likes 2 cakes, not just one.

[Anonymous No.4751645]

>>4751626
I felt the same for a long time. As a burger, when I met some right-leaning artists, I’ve found they are more supportive and don’t try to push you into supporting unrelated art movements (blackouttuesday for example). It’s all about making the right art friends, which may only be men, honestly

[Anonymous No.4751649]

>>4751617
>left twitter because of whiney artists
>goes on 4chan to whine about whiney artists

ngmi internet addict

[Anonymous No.4751682]

>>4746732
My beef is that I like doing Blender/3D stuff, but just making a single character is such a huge fucking commitment that it's easier to draw it instead, especially spontaneous stuff. I feel like I have to draw to put my ideas on paper without spending 2-4 weeks on something any time I get an idea. I hate it because I'd really just prefer to make everything in CG.

[Anonymous No.4751751]

>>4751645
men:
>how did you get this effect on (feature)?
>oh it's easy you just do ___ ___ and then ___ and fuck around with this a little until you think it looks alright
women:
>how did you get this effect on (feature)?
>oh I made a custom brush to do exactly that! You can find my brush pack on my gumroad account haha :) and see more stuff I did with it on my $5 tier patreon :)
>9 times out of 10 it's just a random watercolor brush with some minor tweaks in the settings

[Anonymous No.4751755]

>>4751411
sorry for the (you)s, finally got on my pc and heres my take on it. might be kinda off in some places because i dont draw this stuff a lot myself

[Anonymous No.4751768]

>>4751755
man you guys make it look so effortless. That looks great. I need to study fundies more cause your ass looks much more spherical than mine.

How did you get such a natural looking glow on her boob and nose? I don't understand how to pick colors apparently

[Anonymous No.4751794]

>>4751768
i used the colors you did but made the shading more darker and saturated and hue shifted more towards red (lighter and saturated and more yellow for light). the glow on the boobs and ass is just using that lighting color and airbrushing it in small circles there.
heres link for psd with the layers: mediafire.com/file/0kbscxy7l53w1y6/for_anon.psd/file

[Anonymous No.4752150]

>>4751794
I tried again and I think I figured out that the thing giving me the most trouble is the fact that I've never really studied the back muscles in depth. I can draw forward facing and 3 4ths torsos just fine but I've never dedicated any significant practice to the back muscles. Also started completely over on the colors.

I think I've had a breakthrough though. I used to exclusively have a layer for every different color section (flats, shadows, highlights, etc) but with these I've been doing all the skin on one layer and I think that's what's been holding me back. No fucking wonder I couldn't blend for shit when the shadows don't even touch the flats.

[Anonymous No.4752202]

>>4746586
I hate to see other artists do good at making nice full body sketches while I only do 3/4ths heads and shoulders. My fear of being bad is holding be down

[Anonymous No.4752206]

>>4751467
I'm proud of you, Anon!

[Anonymous No.4752209]

I regret not getting a bigger screen. 10.5" is not enough.

[Anonymous No.4752329]

>>4752202
I suck and full body is literally all I do. You can do it man. Faces are truly the hardest, if you can pull them off the rest should be cake.

[Anonymous No.4752333]

>>4752150
looking better! i'd just say make the tone youre using as the darkest shadow even darker and push kinda more towards red (yours is still around orange) so its more contrasty.
keep the cast shadows (like the shadow her boob cast on her torso, etc) with a more solid edge rather than blurred, blurred edges are for gradual plane/surface changes

[Anonymous No.4752349]

>>4752333
yeah I fucked up a little with the boob shadow but only because I was trying to add more pizzazz to the torso's midway point between the under-boob and the back. The skin was just kind of ~there~ so I tried to bridge the gap a little and fucked up the hard edge shadow. I definitely feel like I'm heading in the right direction but I do struggle with color choices a bit. I'm afraid to lean too far away from the primary color but I'll try again darker tomorrow after work.

I also did pic related today but I've been focusing more on the one I keep reposting here.

[Anonymous No.4752353]

>>4752349

>>4749924

[Anonymous No.4752365]

>>4752353
all of /ic/ is /beg/ anon

[Anonymous No.4752427]

>>4752349
try to hue shift way more and put in the hard edges for now, check how your values look in b&w. good luck anon

[Anonymous No.4752504]

I like to add a bunch of grungey details to everything but I can't figure out how to do that while still making expressive characters. The left of pic related is my attempt but it just looks unappealing

[Anonymous No.4752585]

I want to post fanart for this obscure comic I like but I'm absolutely terrified of having said comic and its creator garner the attention and potential wrath of retarded sjw faggots and similar assholes since it blatantly has quite touchy subjects within it/not very PC, and for all I know they would dogpile me as well for liking the damn thing in the first place. Fuck man, I just don't trust a damn soul on the internet.

[Anonymous No.4752592]

I've been only drawing porn of an obscure character for quite a while, It's the highest quality +quantity work i've produced because im fervently practising to make better art of them, but it's all fucking useless cause I can't post it anywhere because I'll look like an obsessed autist. no decent human being should render a hipbone for 5+ hours

[Anonymous No.4752593]

>struggle with social media not taking off
>everybody tells to do nsfw/fandom first
>refuse
>doodle a horny sketch, ends up looking pretty good, post it
>get nearly a thousand likes and a retweet from a well known coom artist
>find the pic from a random discord art group inspo channel

fucking shit gay earth, I refuse to do coom shit but this stuff is pretty much forcing my hand

[Anonymous No.4752597]

>>4752592
theres loads of twitter artists that just one draw character over and over again

[Anonymous No.4752610]

Something's wrong with my hands. I have chronic pain that has been daily now for about 2 months. I originally thought it was carpal tunnel, but it's both my arms entirely, not just my drawing hand. As the day goes on they get incredibly sore and weak and I can't do anything anymore. If I draw it makes the pain appear sooner, but even if I spend all day trying to not move my hands a lot / icing them it does nothing and they begin to ache and tense up anyways. I'm going back to the Dr's for various tests to see if I have early onset arthritis or some other issue. I tried ignoring it / self managing it for a while but it's just at a point now where something is clearly wrong with me and I'm really anxious about it.

I just feel incredibly frustrated and sad. I love drawing, I like my work and feel I was finally going somewhere. This was supposed to be my career. I don't know what to do if this gets worse and nothing can fix it, I don't know what else I'm good for besides drawing but lately it hurts to even try. If anyone has any tips for managing pain or stretches they recommend I'd really like to know, I just feel really stuck right now. :(

[Anonymous No.4752613]

>>4746586
>upload drawing
>get 1 like/favorite
>no new followers
I WILL NEVER GROW IF I NEVER GET FOLLOWERS; EVERYTHING I SUBMIT THAT DOESN'T BRING ME SOMEONE NEW IS A FAILURE. FUCK

[Anonymous No.4752697]

>draw a quick half-assed doodle I spent 30 minutes on
Get 20-30 views and maybe 2 or 3 likes

>spend two to three hours on a piece featuring a popular character, do some effort to make it look pretty
get 300 views and 15 likes

>spend 15+ hours on a piece, ask better artists for redlines/advices, polish it to the best of my abilities
get 100 view and 5 likes

Every. single. time. The effort/reward ratio really isn't linear...

[Anonymous No.4752713]

>>4750822
Did you link to the wrong video? This video was about why learning anatomy is important. I know that. I just fail to internalize any knowledge even with dedicated practice.

[Anonymous No.4752718]

I don't want to go to work and turn off my brain for 8 hours God help me.

[Anonymous No.4752743]

>>4752713
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-IsmyzaUPc
yea actually its this one

[Anonymous No.4752839]

How can I get fired? I deliberately come in late most days and put in little to no effort and my boss still refuses to fire me. Is it because they knew this whole time I'd make more on unemployment? I need to get unemployment so i can just stay home and draw and get a few checks before then.

[Anonymous No.4752844]

>>4752592
I want to know which character

[Anonymous No.4752845]

>>4746586
I'm too stupid and busy to ever get this art shit.

[Anonymous No.4752858]

>>4752592
I second >>4752597, there are a lot of artists who obsess over a single franchise or character.
If you only draw for your own pleasure, it's not a problem to restrict your field this much. Just don't be closed to the idea of eventually drawing something else.

[Anonymous No.4752864]

>>4752593
you don't have to draw porn, but drawing slightly raunchy fanart of popular fotm coom characters = guaranteed fanbase. if you want easy money, drawn porn

[Anonymous No.4752955]

fuck it I'm calling out 2 days job can suck my cock and I have enough PTO anyway

[Anonymous No.4753004]

Recently I'm struggling with a "what's the point" mentality. I create, write, and help others if asked. People share and like, but that's it. No comments otherwise. No thanks for answering. I want to shut it all down, but I invested a lot of time into it all, so I feel a lot of guilt. I wish I could go back to before I had a computer and just drew all day, but we can't go back.

[Anonymous No.4753042]

>>4751098
just to suffer

[Anonymous No.4753071]

>>4752209
>tfw 10.2" screen

[Anonymous No.4753127]

Things learned
>slow down and trust the process i.e. get proportions right, then value shapes, then values, etc. Dont get sloppy (don't speed up cuz you're bored)
>think about every stroke. double and triple check your reference. don't guess just get it right

bad part, don't have much in the way of inspiration, style, or composition. I do trad and just do master copies. I can get better tho

[Anonymous No.4753187]

>>4753127
But slowing down and considering everything is

SOOOO

boring.

After a certain point you just want to quit.

[Anonymous No.4753188]

i had an extremely public mental breakdown on my art and main blogs, followed by hospitalization, and now everyone who ever liked me or my work treats me like a fragile infant and i don't want to share my art anywhere anymore because if there's a hint of anything remotely personal or deep in it, my viewers ask "are u okay"

i also don't know how the fuck to rebrand
absolute retard i am, fucked it all up for myself

[Anonymous No.4753217]

>>4753187
I understand your point of view but consider your options: go fast, inevitably get something wrong, get a mediocre product that you learned little or nothing from and aren't proud of OR go slow, get it right at all costs and end up with something worthwhile. I play around with this analogy in my head: when learning a new song on an instrument, you should not try to learn all the notes at full tempo. Practice at a slower tempo, speed it up when you've got it right. You would learn much more spending 5+ hours on one piece doing it the right way. You need to enjoy the process. I think of it like a puzzle, a mental workout.

[Anonymous No.4753220]

>>4753188
Dude how can you have a mental breakdown on the internet? Like just put the phone down and walk away. Like cry in a pillow or something dog? Bro, just turn off your internet and go for a walk. haha

[Anonymous No.4753223]

>>4753220
He had a mental breakdown, Anon. His thought process wasn't exactly at its peak at the time.

[Anonymous No.4753227]

I haven't really been able to think ever since I started working.
Still drawing and at least not getting worse, but I can't seem to imagine

Like I used to have tons of stories, characters, and designs in my head. Now after work I just find myself staring at the page with nothing to draw, then doing old characters or studies...

[Anonymous No.4753229]

>>4753220
i wish i could have had that level of self control, but i was genuinely not all there. It was serious. As in "i thought i was dead and i was reaching out to people to make sure i wasn't" serious. At least that's what i think i was, at the time. But i get where you're coming from, really.

>>4753223
yeah this is probably the best way of putting it, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.4753421]

>>4752585
bro who gives a fuck what people on the internet think, they sit on their fatass getting angry at other people all day. just make good work and get a fanbase big enough to defend you. pathetic. don't let your inferiors control your behavior

[Anonymous No.4753479]

>>4752697

Post you works that got the most and least amount of engagement.

[Anonymous No.4753491]

>>4753004

Its seems obvious to me that your doing that for the socializing element. Its not bad, humans are social animals. But you need to realize that most interactions with people wont always lead to friendships, reciprocal learning, or even validation. That goes for irl and online.
Its also why most pros dont give unsolicited and unpaid critique to randos- cause they know there's nothing in it for either party, most of the time.
Try to find a venue where you can develop some relationships with people OUTSIDE of art and art-related things. Then just do art on the side, like you used to. That way you can have your mojo without expending energy unnecessarily.

[Anonymous No.4753577]

Fucking N*** coughing and sneezing right in front of me, has a mask on but underneath her chin, and has the audacity to not give a fuck.

This is why the numbers are so high.

[Anonymous No.4753597]

>>4752593
I feel you.
>make a comic strip of two characters
>little interaction
>draw one little frame with a lewd pose between both later
>double numbers
To all the people who say NSFW artists have it just as hard: Please just shut up, this is literally easy mode.

[Anonymous No.4753623]

I'm shocked to know I'm still /beg/, I thought this picture was peak aesthetics.
I already got feedback but still, it's a hard blow. I didn't put much effort into it though so I should get back on my feet soon

[Anonymous No.4753691]

>>4750500
Seeing 2000-2002 in the good artists names makes me question my sanity

[Anonymous No.4753693]

>>4746586
whats the best way to prep myself in my last month before being shipped off to
>art school

[Anonymous No.4753712]

>>4751626
i've had pretty wonderful artist friends that were much better than me but didnt mind at all and helped me when i needed it but we drifted away, i think you need to judge people better before you get close to them

[Anonymous No.4753715]

>>4753623
thats a good mentality, better than people here that just give up and can only talk about how they'll never be good

[Anonymous No.4753781]

>>4753623
keep working at it, and do a redraw of this in a year from now. it certainly hits the right aesthetic beats for me, i'd definitely like to see a more refined version of it

[Anonymous No.4753808]

Bros... I can't sharpen my pencil properly... How will I ever be a good artist?

[Anonymous No.4753814]

Graaaaaahhh, why is everyone else so shitty and awful, I swear none of the shit that comes me way is my own fault, it’s other humans being the shitty oxygen leeching good for nothing fuckheads that they are, AAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.4753824]

It’s not fair, bros. Is this actually how you gain a following now a days? All it takes is this and here I been trying to get pass 100 followers for 2 years.

[Anonymous No.4753834]

>>4753824
fuk the begging. Let the followers come naturally. A more rewarding eperience..even if it takes forever

[Anonymous No.4754199]

>>4746586
having a lot of friends willing to share your art and liking it means having a good headstart at staring an art account, especially twitter or insta. i dont, so i mostly rely on tags and my works dont get more than 20 likes each. ive seen beginner artists whose friends parade their works around start off their accounts with a good sized following. yes, i am jelly

[Anonymous No.4754322]

>>4746686
>even if i go through all the motions to try and make friends and meet people, it's hard to relate to their lives at all
Fuck man this feel is real. When i was young it seemed so easy to network and make connections. I clicked with so many popular artists almost instantly. Now I'm in my late 20s, married and have a son and decided to start fresh a year ago. I can hardly hold a conversation with any one any more, I have no idea how to relate to any of these people. I feel like I grew up and every one is still a teenager.

[Anonymous No.4754822]

So many artists I admire have started following me lately and it's been making so anxious to post or even tweet. Feels like everything I post is cringe.

[Anonymous No.4754929]

>never drawn anime
>generate a waifulabs girl and draw her for a laugh
>she’s kinda cute, I wonder if I could get good at drawing anime
>remember that I go to an art uni and will get eviscerated in crit if anime starts to influence my art

[Anonymous No.4754932]

>ground nothing but architecture foliage and autist bigass perspective for millennia
>still can’t draw people

[Anonymous No.4754935]

>>4754932
>realise i am literally hitler

[Anonymous No.4754947]

>learning from a cute girl
>looking back at old work and seeing all the bad, wrong things I was doing
>actually improving
I’m pretty happy right now.

[Anonymous No.4755053]

I'm just in this for attentions.
But i don't want cheap attention that pity me.
I want the impressed attention.
The superior feeling of me able to draw something good.
And it's taking forever.
I know it will take a long time before i will have some decent skills to show.
But it's taking so long it's frustrating.
I feel like i want to join the crabs and shit on others just to let my frustration out now.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.4755055]

>>4755053
>I'm just in this for attentions.
there is no way you are gonna make it then. you will just crash and burn if you dont have fun with the whole drawing thing

[Anonymous No.4755066]

>>4755055
>you will just crash and burn if you dont have fun with the whole drawing thing
The problem is not about having or not having fun with drawing.
The problem is the fundamentals and studies.
It's very frustrating. Boring. Tiring. Dry.

I took the advice of someone around to not study and just draw from reference, or even tracing the reference directly sometimes.
It helps a lot when i'm doing the drawing.
But after that, it will be frustrating to know that i wasted time not studying or learning any new stuffs.

The frustration just keep adding up and up.
And the lack of attention just prove that i'm bad at drawing and is making me more frustrated.

And i will make it, because you have no idea how huge an attention whore i am, and what i'm willing to do for it (Don't asks)

[Anonymous No.4755072]

>>4755066
Yes. That is the problem. Is there anything you actually like drawing? What audience is your goal? Just youre "skill"? Nobody gives a shit about that. You need to have something to say even if it is just porn. If you want attention you could just draw beg tier porn and pander to obscure fetishis and you will get more attention than you can imagine.

[Anonymous No.4755093]

>>4755072
>Is there anything you actually like drawing?
nothing in particular.
I can have fun drawing boobies, or have fun drawing random stuffs.
My ultimate goal is to draw cute anime girls.

>What audience is your goal?
No plan for it yet.

>Just youre "skill"? Nobody gives a shit about that.
Wrong. Good drawing will impress people.
Simple as that. period.

>you could just draw beg tier porn
Re-read >>4755053
>i don't want cheap attention that pity me.
>I want the impressed attention.
To put it simply.
I want a skill that i can be proud of, so i can build self confidence and self worth.
And attentions are required to know that i finally made it.
That's my goal.
It's not to get into the art industry.
Or make money with it.
Or be famous celebrity artist on twitter.

I'm just gonna stop here.
I'm here to vent.
To let the frustration out, so i can keep on drawing.
So i can """Make it""".
Not to argue with someone that don't even know me but wanted to decide how i should think or act.
It only creates more frustration and make my previous venting here wasted.

[Anonymous No.4755095]

>>4755093
this is SO not going to work out omg

[Anonymous No.4755096]

>>4755093
>good drawings will impress people. Simple as that.

[Anonymous No.4755159]

How do you reply when you get multiple comments here?
I could reply to one, but then it seems rude to only reply to one person
I could reply to multiple, but no one wants to see me just going "thanks" to people, clogging up the thread
I could (and usually do) not reply to anyone, and feel guilty about it
Also, is it rude to reply with "thanks" without also giving a compliment back? I just can't think of anything interesting to say, and saying "thanks, and likewise" feels disingenuous yet wellmeaning.
Saying "thanks, here's a mild critique" seems a little ungrateful, if not at least lopsided
...Thanks for your time

[Anonymous No.4755164]

>>4755159
For me, I reply to everyone who gave me a (you) unless it's a shitpost or if it's a similar post someone already said which gets the point across to that person.

If I'm the one shitposting then, well, there are plenty of techniques for this.

[Anonymous No.4755197]

>>4755164
Ok, thanks for the reply

[Anonymous No.4755419]

Crap like this makes me tired

[Anonymous No.4755471]

>>4755419

Just say you're a black female then. It's not like you'll ever show yourself at a convention or on stream, right? There is a chance that 96% of those people won't remember a year from now that you mention you're actually white and fuck twitter jannies, fuck the ((verified)), and especially fuck jogging enthusiasts.

[Anonymous No.4755477]

I have an old art friend I've been around for years. He hasn't improved and honestly I've thought this a lot but haven't said it: he isn't going to make it. I already spent too much effort and time trying to help him along. He says he's trying- it's been years and I don't believe it anymore.
I give on him and I'm going to slowly distance myself. It actively saps my motivation to be around him.

They say you're the average of who you hang around with, and I am not hanging around that loser anymore.

He's a good person though and I hope he somehow turns it around. It's just too discouraging for me now.

[Anonymous No.4755493]

Anyone else pick up on the virtue signaling of the new "it costs $0 to support an artist" trend? Maybe I'm not looking hard enough but it seems like everyone getting traction off it is black. I'm not shadow banned or anything, I looked. But like damn, I wish actual results mattered on twitter more than superficial shit about the person behind it.

[Anonymous No.4755510]

>>4755493
There's still a lot of residual guilt left since the protests and whatever last month, so black artists (especially alphabet women) are getting a big boost

[Anonymous No.4755518]

>>4753188
That's still better than nuking your account quietly like I do. You can probably milk some attention out of this since you're the kind of person who'd say "how do I rebrand"

[Anonymous No.4755534]

>>4755510
I was going to bring up exactly that but I didn't want to get /pol/'d out. Shit's frustrating. I looked right before I posted that comment and the top tweet was art from a black dude, and it looks like some shit you'd see hanging up in a Taco Bell. These people are really not that good at all but these guilt ridden virtue signalers are fucking everything up for people who put the time and effort into their craft.

[Anonymous No.4755543]

>>4755534
>for people who put the time and effort into their craft

When will you guys learn it isn't just about skill? I know a person from here making ~$225 monthly from his /beg/ coomart and trust me when I say he's really shitty but he makes things people demand for.

You can be a God tier, ex blizzard conceptartist and nobody will give a shit. The only people who care about skill are other artists. We're entertainers and magicians first and foremost, skilled draftsman second.

[Anonymous No.4755547]

>>4755543
*monthly patreon

[Anonymous No.4755555]

>>4755477
That's understandable. Wasting energy on people who just won't make progress over a long period of time is tiring.

[Anonymous No.4755562]

My chest hurts so much
I might have caught Corona, or it's the solvents and dust from work finally killing me.
Test results come tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.4755566]

>>4755477
Does he want to improve? What are his study methods?

[Anonymous No.4755568]

>>4755547
>>4755543
while I don't disagree, you can't deny that he'd make a fuckton more if he was better. He'll easily turn that into $2,500 a month when he improves. Right now he likely makes all that money from some niche things, but as he gets better his audience will grow with him. I'm just saying, it's shitty for people who are already beyond him but get btfo'd because we aren't black/alphabet. I don't do coom art so I can't speak too much on that front but the overall idea still stands. Who is it, if I may ask? I'm curious.

>>4755555
Quads don't lie. You become who you hang out with. It's a death sentence for your progression if you hang out with losers like that.

[Anonymous No.4755605]

Is wanting to get good at drawing enough of a reason to learn to draw draw?

Ive given up twice because i would rather play video games and i probably i got discouraged by my lack of skill but once again i saw some artwork which inspired me. Is it a sign that i should pursue this further?

My last attempts ive focused on fundamentals and didnt draw anything for fun, maybe that was the mistake?

[Anonymous No.4755611]

>>4755605
you burnt out, anon. It happens. I'm coming off of a 6 month burnout right now. You definitely can't just grind fundies all day. Need to draw some stuff that you like too in order to keep your sanity, but draw stuff where the fundies you're grinding are applicable. I realized a few days ago I've never drawn a person's back so I'm doing that now, and I've got some thumbnails sketched out of characters I like in poses that display the back. A few weeks ago I was learning about ink stuff and shadows so I drew a bunch of Batman. Gotta mix it up so you don't lose your mind.

[Anonymous No.4755616]

>>4755605
You were not inspired, you were captivated. Artists use inspiration to >>>draw<<<. You only picked up fundamentals because that's what /ic/ told you to do. If you're not drawing then you don't want to draw. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.4755647]

>>4755616
Its just that i need to do something else than video games and if i got at least an inkling of a pull towards drawing then its better than having no pull at all towards other activities.

[Anonymous No.4755659]

Yeah that's the thing, he's always talking about how he wants to become an art god and making study schedules. Then he doesn't do any of it.

[Anonymous No.4755663]

>>4755566
Yeah that's the thing, he's always talking about how he wants to become an art god and making study schedules. Then he doesn't do any of it.

[Anonymous No.4755675]

>>4755605
its part of my reason, you can always try getting good at something else if youre not enjoying it, but studying something you want to study should be a little enjoyable at least

[Anonymous No.4755720]

>>4755647
If you honestly feel that way then draw. I don't know what else to tell you.

[Anonymous No.4755730]

>>4755419
I fucking hate "le vaporwave" style, what a shitty excuse for a personality trait

[Anonymous No.4755749]

>>4746586
I can bare muster up a 1 hour study session max now before I just start doodling stupid shit. When I first started I used 4 hours into study.

I can "enter the zone" when I'm in the assignment and it usually turns out okay for my skill level, but goddamn I just find it so hard to start another once I'm done with one

[Anonymous No.4755764]

I'm hearing a voice in my head that's saying "buy emergency storage food NOW" but I'm not sure. I have a weird feeling up until the election (and after) things are going to get really really bad and that I should buy now before the prices go up and supply vanishes.

[Anonymous No.4755779]

>>4755749
God I know that feel.
I was planning on making a comic, doodled the characters and whatnot but I still have barely writen anything.

[Anonymous No.4755788]

>>4755779
I'm the exact opposite, I have everything written up but haven't even finished most of the sketchwork

[Anonymous No.4755795]

>>4755518
has it happened to you too? nuking your account takes balls, dude

i've been thinking of just hopping onto another platform and making a webcomic or something out of my experiences - i don't want attention really, but i'd like to make something that resonates at least. Maybe just something that a few people would respect.

[Anonymous No.4755821]

I keep thinking these dirty thoughts of this girl who takes my temperature in the morning at work. I think it’s because it’s a rare moment I ever have my head that close to a girl. She remembered my name today and said it it in a low tone. I was able to stare into her eyes before without much thought but now I can’t even make eye contact when she points to my forehead. Im such a loser.

[Anonymous No.4755825]

Did that elephant, anon, took longer than I'd like but honestly, I'm a beginner after all, I can see some mistakes and had to really work out some details, but yeah, the mirror trick does help when you're paying attention, sadly added some details out of habit but I stopped myself, now some shadows had to be done otherwise too empty and I like some hate others

[Anonymous No.4755972]

>>4749484
>Pony artist leaves my really specific subfetish... successfully draws appealing humans... pony is dying a slow death and it makes me sad

[Anonymous No.4756022]

>>4753824

Try drawing some cute girls for easy traffic, or just to switch things up. No one draw redheads or super pale women. Try that.
You'll get bonus points for women if your subjects are engaged in some romantic scene. Like: "Knight comes home from battle and embraces his waifu"- type of thing.

[Anonymous No.4756025]

>>4755159
ur anonymous and anything u do some will like but others will be annoyed by.

[Anonymous No.4756032]

>>4755096
>Simple as that.
where tf did this phrase come from, i've been seeing in on the chinz for a while now. i imagine an annoying little child human smiling with their eyes closed all smug saying "simple as that".

[Anonymous No.4756048]

>>4755419

>is lesbian
>girls are drawn poorly

How does she live like this???

[Anonymous No.4756060]

>>4755605
Be honest with yourself. Are you good at videogames?
If you teach yourself to improve at one skill, you can improve others too.
Find a way to game-ify your time studying fundies. It sounds cringe, but if you can make studying fun, you'll be more likely to do it. Remember that play, just goofing off, is a vital part of learning something new. Allow yourself to make mistakes. Then go online and google ways to get better at a specific skill. Just like vidya.

[Anonymous No.4756089]

The bait these dumbfucks are using is so blatant that I want to call them out but that’s exactly what they want. I bet it’s all just pretend.

[Anonymous No.4756098]

Anyone else think art Twitter became horrible after Tumblr died? I really don’t want to use it anymore and just stick to IG

[Anonymous No.4756123]

>>4754932
Hello, Hitler.

[Anonymous No.4756147]

>marmalade-mum is (((cancelled))) for anti-semitic messages in the discord
Oy vey

[Anonymous No.4756253]

>>4756048
Lesbian niggas have no taste
>>4756147
Explain

[Anonymous No.4756264]

>>4756253
See picrelated but replace BLM with the bankers

[Anonymous No.4756273]

>>4756253
Thread >>4756097

[Anonymous No.4756330]

>>4756264

Big kek if true.

[imanidiot No.4756335]

>>4749987
Traced most of it, added some stuff. Now someone color it for me cuz I don't want to fucking color, I hate coloring.

[Anonymous No.4756367]

All my worries in life seems to come from not having money and basic human things like a home for myself. I was taking classes for graphic design here and there last year but I don't enjoy the colleges art program and I really just want to focus on concept art....or actually concept art is just an excuse to wanting to have more time to draw. But at the same time art school is expensive and moving to California and living there is expensive and all I want to do is draw lolis. But I'm getting too old and I'm stuck at a job that doesn't pay much and I think I need to just drop the childish gimmick and pick up a degree in IT so I can stop worrying about money. I don't need to go to school for art as I can download everything for free. I don't need 8 hours to draw every day to improve as I was doing it wrong all these years. And my depression just comes from not being able to fund my hobbies and stuck in the same place IRL for too long because I'm stubborn and stupid. So, IT degree it is.

[Anonymous No.4756399]

>>4746586
my chair broke. my fucking chair broke and now it makes my back hurt like a motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.4756411]

>>4753188
You can still draw, and you still like drawing, right? It'll be a temporary setback then anon, you'll be just fine.

[Anonymous No.4756480]

I really thought drawing was for me, that this is what I wanted to do for a living and become the best I could get at it.
But holy fuck I just can't take it anymore. It's not fun to constantly be shit at something and never improve. I came back from being hospitalized and it's like I'm back at square one and I will not subject myself to this again.
I've wasted almost ten years of my life on this, something that will get me absolutely nothing. A decade just gone, right there.
And you know the best part? If I show you my drawings there's nobody in this board that will believe I've been doing it for 10 years. There's cunts who got two years of grind and would draw circles around me. I just don't have the brain for this, I struggle with basic shit.

[Anonymous No.4757018]

>>4753623
Forget about getting back on my feet god fucking dammit the stray cat I cared for for a year got fatally wounded by some dogs while it was sleeping on my yard and I had to comfort it as he died, at least I carried him inside the house. He died as one of the family. Dammit dammit dammit I'll have to take some time to mourn, goodbye Ging I can't stop crying for you

[Anonymous No.4757023]

How do I tell my friend his art sucks? I know, I know, "post your own work!"; how about no considering i want to vent about him rather than myself. Let me explain. He draws literally everyday and has been for the last 5 years i've known him for. Dude has astronomical amounts of confidence in his abilities, he'll seriously pull out an A4 sketch book in a restaurant or bus and start drawing. That's certainly not an issue, except that he's >beg tier. He was beg 5 years ago and he's still beg now, despite drawing 24/7. It's honestly baffling how he never progressed after filling so many sketchbooks. I think his strong love of old hannabarbara cartoons is holding him down since he never aims to switch up his style. I'm sick of it though. I admire his perseverance but his study ethic is beyond garbage; sit down to draw a horse and he'll start going at it, no reference, no prior studies, nothing and when it's done, no further study or comparison to real horses to check what details he might've missed. He draws but never actually learns what he's drawing.
Pic not related.

[Anonymous No.4757026]

>>4757023
have him post his work on here

[Anonymous No.4757034]

>>4757026
Thankfully he posts his stuff online so I managed to screenshot this.

[Anonymous No.4757060]

>>4757034

I mean, what does it matter if he himself doesn't want to improve?

wouldn't a blind bliss like that be a dream for many of us?

[Anonymous No.4757085]

>>4757060
Idk about you anon but i'd rather not live in blissful ignorance. Think of any artist that influences you, look at that really old work and consider if you would still like them if they never improved. The "muh bliss" meme is a gateway drug to stagnation. I'm not saying everyone should be unhappy with their work, just realize that bettering yourself is a thousand times more fulfilling than a plateau.

[Anonymous No.4757088]

>>4757034
i didn't say post his work on here

if he really does want critique or needs a reality check have him post his work himself

[Anonymous No.4757103]

>>4756411
that's true, man!
the quality of my art has taken a huge dip, but i am working hard at the recovery and i do still love creating in general. It just crushed me a fair bit. But i don't want to be held back. I've let that happen for far too long, really.

[Anonymous No.4757215]

Why do trad artists do this? Taking bad photos with a terrible angle instead of just scanning it.

[Anonymous No.4757287]

>>4757215
large scanners arent being made anymore.

[Anonymous No.4757363]

I DON'T WANT TO BE A WAGIE ANYMORE I WANT TO DRAW

[Anonymous No.4757387]

>>4757363
I dont mind being a wagie if I actually made money. By the time I get my check each week its gone by monday. Literally slavery. I should have fucking stayed in school I would have a career by now making at least 50K/year and can draw with peace of mind not having to worry about selling my soul to make coomart. Biggest mistske of mh life

[Anonymous No.4757523]

I'm making a project involving some shifts in art-styles. For some reason I feel like I have to do all of this shit myself(minus, of course, the various software, knowledge, and other stuff I've picked up that is by necessity from other people) even though I could easily just commission other artists to make different stylized versions of the same character.

I'm not lacking in money. I can't draw that well myself. I just have this odd feeling.

[Anonymous No.4757682]

Despite trying by best, i seem to be mediocre or just bad at everything i try. This doesn't just mean drawing, but other things in my life too. I remember i was so bad i finding a job that even McDonald's wouldn't hire me, tand that's usely consider to be the lowest and easiest job to get. I was studying for two weeks straight, and it always feels when you figure it out, but the process of figuring it out is just exhausting, and only to look at it the next day and see how shit it actually was is terrible for my mental state. Art is probably the most unrewarding medium for the amount of time that it takes to get good at it.

[Anonymous No.4757750]

I wish I were born as somebody who could draw good.

[Anonymous No.4757883]

Why is this even a thing? Just your state and fuck the rest of the 49 states but foreigners aka Chinese and Korean students are okay? It's too fucking expensive to move to your shithole.

Fuck everyone who lives in California and may God bring destruction to your state.