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/vent/ Anonymous Sat Jun 27 01:18:24 2020 No.4680446 [Reply] [Original]

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 01:51:23 2020 No.4680492 >>4680446 wish I had more time to learn and practice art

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 02:02:47 2020 No.4680518
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>>4680446
i have been grinding for 3 months and only seeing incremental improvements. it looks like you will need 1 year+ to move from /beg/ to /int/. I'm demotivated by how long it takes to become a good artist, and I can't stand looking at my shit drawings. And no i will not post my work

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 02:26:22 2020 No.4680553 >>4680518 Normally even at the fastest rate it takes about 2 years to go from /beg/ to /int/.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 02:36:30 2020 No.4680568
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>>4680446
>*post a face
>/ic/: "Ugh fix the nose"
>me: "nah bruh yous is just crabbin'
>*look at it weeks later, the nose is horribly off jesus christ how did i not see that

Why can't I trust my own eyes??

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 02:46:54 2020 No.4680583
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>>4680446
>Noah Bradley bent the knee
>Dumb bitch who worked for DC bent the knee for "blackfishing" by drawing herself w a tan.
>Several other comic pros are taking a retarded pledge to be an ally to women.
>Now there is a massive group of highly energized twitter spergs going around trying to cancel random comic pros and artists for shit that happened years ago.
2020 is fucked.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 02:51:20 2020 No.4680586 >>4680446 tfw improving more by just drawing a few times every few months or so than I did drawing everyday wasted so much time grinding

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 02:51:46 2020 No.4680588 >>4680568 Because they're not trained well yet. You should trust anons here more, at least look into it. Try flipping your image horizontally, it has the same effect as stepping away from your art for a day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 03:04:27 2020 No.4680606 Keep burning out for long stretches of time to come back to art feeling like I could be so much better if I hadn't. But it seems like my burning out is not just with art but everything. No reading during that time, no music, no activity at all.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 03:21:15 2020 No.4680629

I can't draw from the shoulder, I just straight up fucking can't; like I need to turn up stabilization to 40 just to keep the line even a little straight, and forget about accuracy. What is the secret here? How do you get your arm and hand to stop shaking so bad?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 03:22:17 2020 No.4680632 FUCK STUDYING ANATOMY IS SO FUCKING BORING

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 03:24:34 2020 No.4680633 >>4680446 >want to draw >ipad dies >charge ipad >pen is dead >charge the pen i just want to draw

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 03:25:20 2020 No.4680635
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>>4680629
You don't you literally just embrace the shaking.
I draw with my stabilizer at 4 or 5, the shakiness of my lines is just a part of the style now. If you can't do this you're ngmi. pic related

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 03:52:57 2020 No.4680678 >>4680518 What have you been grinding? What courses/books are you following?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 03:55:54 2020 No.4680684 >>4680583 The fuck is blackfishing, Americans are so retarded. No wonder is the land where everybody have two guns, one way or another your people are fucked up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 03:56:55 2020 No.4680685 >>4680629 The secret is grinding lines.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 03:59:56 2020 No.4680690 >>4680684 >The fuck is blackfishing White women on twitter/instagram who use filters and tans to make themselves look like a light skinned black person. Often accompanied by an "urban" fashion style.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 05:19:54 2020 No.4680769 >>4680568 When you spent a long time on a drawing in a row, you don't all the mistakes. Take a break and come back.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 05:21:04 2020 No.4680770 >>4680769 don't see*

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 05:40:19 2020 No.4680787 >>4680690 so what, do black people have a monopoly on dark skin and urban fashion styles?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 05:43:11 2020 No.4680789 I draw a picture. I like it. I post it. Nobody like it. Now what?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 05:54:19 2020 No.4680804 >>4680690 It's like a warnign signal: this woman is unhinged, retarded and dangerous: stay away.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 06:05:13 2020 No.4680812 I'm deliberately giving myself amnesia so that I forget how to draw and starting from scratch but the pain of not drawing what I want lingers behind me.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 06:12:34 2020 No.4680815
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>>4680583
Twitter was always a joke of a platform anyway.
I don't understand how anyone thought it was a good idea for a platform that encourages outrage to become the leading social media of the western world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 06:13:18 2020 No.4680816 >>4680787 They don't, but they'll take it as a reason to knock you out and rob tall the stores in the vicinity. I like to imagine black people as those exploding barrels in CSGO.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 06:13:36 2020 No.4680817 >>4680568 flip the canvas, bro

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 06:19:18 2020 No.4680827

>Draw shapes
>Looks like shit
>Draw lines
>Looks like shit
>Draw a person or figure from reference
>Looks like shit
>Draw from reference of something upside down
>Looks like shit
>Draw from imagination
>Looks like shit
>Draw while placing the paper on top of the image to get the correct proportions
>Looks like shit and it makes me feel like a cheater
I don't know what to do anymore I think I should give up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 07:27:40 2020 No.4680906 File: 341 KB, 450x534, 1592959273809.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4680827 I believe in you, anon. Don't give up!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 07:31:39 2020 No.4680912 File: 13 KB, 225x225, 1497804936552.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4680446 I've been drawing for almost 3 years and I'm still trash. I practice daily for 90 mins+

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 07:36:21 2020 No.4680916 >>4680827 For how long have you been drawing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 07:36:53 2020 No.4680917 >>4680815 rage sells I suppose, that's why "news" is just a mix of crushing rage and breathers in the form of little stories.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 07:41:36 2020 No.4680920

>>4680446
I tell every artist who claims that their art is shit that their art is shit and that they should give up.

If you don't believe in yourself, why should we? I'm sick of these faggots going "A BLOO BLOO, wow is me. I'm not good enough." and yet their featured in magazines/front pages and work with big companies.

It feels fake as fuck and condescending. Fuck you for putting your effort and hard work down the drain. It's not our fault that you hate your art.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 07:42:01 2020 No.4680922 >>4680912 pyw so we can help you

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 07:51:01 2020 No.4680933 I like big butts and i cannot lie

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 07:57:53 2020 No.4680940
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>>4680922
Here's a complation of some of the practice I've done recently. I'm focusing on 5 min figure drawing for a while, so I can get better at drawing figure drawing and being more accurate when copying reference

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 08:28:06 2020 No.4680973 >>4680906 I appreciate it but I'm losing hope. >>4680916 23 years old and I've been passively drawing since I was a kid. My active drawing has been off and on since I was maybe 19 but all the books and videos in the world can't fix me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 10:15:35 2020 No.4681140 File: 86 KB, 489x319, c22ddc8a20d004ce.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4680633 that's funny

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 10:16:47 2020 No.4681143 >>4680940 unironically, take a course, and follow it to the end. I highly recommend Vilppu's, but any course is fine, as long as you're learning from someone better than you.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 10:20:50 2020 No.4681157 File: 216 KB, 1024x1024, 1511773399985.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hate everything my hands shit out, started loomis but I can't even copy his ball and plane faces properly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 10:30:35 2020 No.4681181 File: 123 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Just spent half an hour on /ic/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 10:55:46 2020 No.4681214 >>4680446 >free brushes >no .abr file >jpg of finished artwork

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 11:27:10 2020 No.4681239 File: 1.92 MB, 1668x2108, IMG_20200617_095020.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm convinced I'm dumb and can't learn properly

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 11:29:43 2020 No.4681241 >>4681214 ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 11:43:35 2020 No.4681260 File: 1.31 MB, 500x281, 1592698452266.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4681239 that's the first step to learning properly!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 11:48:44 2020 No.4681268 >>4681260 Too bad you cannot transition into the other steps when you are dumb >t. extremely dumb and also unable to learn properly

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 11:51:16 2020 No.4681272

>>4680446
Lost my job right before the big city shutdown. I planned on using some of my unemployment gibs to buy some paints to get into trad and supplies for screen printing but my claim was lost in the system and I haven’t heard back from labor in months.. they just give me the runaround and hang up when I manage to speak to someone. Can’t get a new job for at least another two months because I have a major surgery coming up soon and will need time to recover. Meanwhile my bum brother in law who literally hasn’t worked a real job in 6 years applied months after I did and got the pandemic payments so he makes $750 a week doing literally nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 11:52:57 2020 No.4681279 >Draw every day. >Upload studies on twitter >One like >It is a like from bot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 11:58:43 2020 No.4681287 >>4680678 proko Loomis vilppu and some other shit i can find on youtube. I've been drawing other stuff but it's still not up to my expectations currently. I have to draw more but my hands hurt if i keep drawing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 12:01:17 2020 No.4681295 >>4680940 I'm nearing 2 years of drawing and you're several orders of magnitude better, makes me wonder what is left for an idiot like me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 12:05:39 2020 No.4681300 File: 55 KB, 680x383, shirobako-aoi-frustrated.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My Huion tablet keeps breaking. Fuck me. >>4681295 Wait one more year before you say that man

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 12:07:35 2020 No.4681303 I am in a simillar boat except for not so young and already almost full month in. I face a problem that I've finished Hampton's book I've been using as a souce of subjects to draw and now I need a new source for it. Any suggestions?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 12:11:51 2020 No.4681307 >>4680446 I see hundred of thousands of good artists on twitter and it make it seem like becoming an artist is easy, but I can't do it because I'm retarded.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 12:51:40 2020 No.4681414

>>4680690
People aren't allowed to have tans or dress in the clothes they like anymore? Hahaha what the fuck.

Let me guess, the ones calling people out for this are the psycho self-hating white girls and the crazy black women that want drama jumping on the bandwagon?

I understand not being cool with blackface but these bitches need to calm down. Is it whitefishing when a black girl bleaches her skin to look like a tanned white girl? Lmaooo these bitches are insane

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 12:57:45 2020 No.4681426 >>4680583 >draw only white characters >"no representation" >draw tan/colored characters >"blackfishing" there's just no winning

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 13:25:00 2020 No.4681485

>>4681414
I don't think it is as big of an issue as people are making it out to be, but the idea is that instagram thots are wanting all the "perks" of "looking black", naturally without having to actually deal with any of the race issues/historical baggage.
Its like getting inconsolably enraged when someone thinks Jeff Buckley wrote Hallelujah instead of Leonard Cohen. Out of your control and pointless to get upset about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 13:28:23 2020 No.4681488 >>4681485 Wait, but what would be the point of doing that? Are you saying that white people are stealing black peoples non-existent privileges? And if they do have privileges, why should those privileges be exclusive to blacks?

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 13:37:58 2020 No.4681507

>>4680940
I wouldn’t say it’s trash at all. I really like how gestural it is, the looseness brings it alive.
>>4680553
Differnet anon but that’s what I’m shooting for. I feel like each class of skill is just double the jump in time. So /beg/ to /int/ is two years, /int/ to /adv/ is four years, and /adv/ to /pro/ is eight years

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 13:42:19 2020 No.4681513 >>4681488 >black peoples non-existent privileges Affirmative action, grants, and looting rights, just to name a few :)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 14:01:00 2020 No.4681555 >>4681279 Do you want to share your twitter? I will follow you.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 14:06:16 2020 No.4681569

>>4681488
I think on a whole, most of the world would still consider a light-skinned woman with European features more aesthetically pleasing than the average black woman. Even the most popular black women in the entertainment industry are lighter skinned and less ape-like looking. The "privelage" enjoyed by black women is more like a forbidden-exotic type of thing (Like the masdive popularity of Josephine Baker and her erotic banana dance); like thinking you can do all the nasty stuff you've ever wanted with a black woman but you'd never marry her. So the critics of this "blackfishing" are basically saying: at the end of the day, you can go back to looking white any time you want while a black person is stuck that way and "that is not fair".
In the grand scheme of actual issues, it ranks pretty low in my opinion and probably is more of an excuse to easily feel like you've accomplished social justice.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 14:15:28 2020 No.4681592

>>4681569
thanks for the explanation I guess, but boy, there are a lot of assumptions about how white men view black women tied up in that reasoning. Also, I'd be willing to bet that for a lot of people it's more about holding on to their racial priveleginos of being given preferential treatment (say, in hiring) in progressive circles, and your given explanation is more of a cover story.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 14:17:40 2020 No.4681594 stop whining you emotionally undeveloped manchildren. nut up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 14:40:43 2020 No.4681628 Starting to get worried I'm doomed to be a NEET or Retail Wageslave for life. People only paid for my commissions when my prices are insanely low, like £5 for a character The art industry isn't hiring retards like me no matter how hard I try

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:03:35 2020 No.4681679 File: 3.09 MB, 3541x5016, GH.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4680446 >can't color >can't greyscale dot thingies >can barely people and backgrounds >ink looks generic as shit JUST look at the color...

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:06:36 2020 No.4681689

>>4681295
I made big gains just coming back to the fundemantals once I got better.

For example Loomis proportions tend to break things down into 1/2, 1/3 and 1/4. For example the top half of the body can be split into thirds: 1. Head to clavicales 2. Clavicales to thinist part of body the waist 3. Waist to pubic area.
It's easy to understand intellecutally, but really understanding until it becomes natural.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XofYc_WUF8

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:09:05 2020 No.4681696 >>4680629 >>4680635 >parkinson's tremble >muh style There's nothing wrong with using stabilizers. Kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:19:29 2020 No.4681714 >>4681696 >kill yourself hehe i said the mean internet thing ehehe fuck you mom

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:25:58 2020 No.4681724 >>4681714 people are using kys more sincerely today than they used to a couple years ago, too. it was mostly nothing just a stronger way of saying "fuck off".

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:45:11 2020 No.4681756 >>4680446 I NEED A GF I NEED A GF AAAHHHH AAAAHHH GODDAMMIT AAAAAAAH MY MOM SAYS IM HANDSOME WHY DONT I HAVE A GF

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:46:46 2020 No.4681761 >>4681756 Anon there's only one thing to do... Make mom your GF ;)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 16:50:37 2020 No.4681890 >>4681761 based and mommypilled

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 16:56:52 2020 No.4681908 cringe thread. weak minded whining girls.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 16:57:12 2020 No.4681911

I'm getting lazy and losing direction again. I kinda want to start drawing carelessly to feel like it's okay to draw something that looks bad as long as you keep drawing all the time, but I'm worried it will become a bad habit and will fuck up my ability to draw seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 17:01:21 2020 No.4681923 >>4681908 >4681908 >>4681908 >>4681908 >>4681908

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 17:42:19 2020 No.4682028
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>draw something
>had fun drawing it and thinks it looks pretty good not too shabby
>this one guy gives me crits telling me my drawings are boring and forgettable
>feel like shit

I dont know why i even still draw tbqh maybe i should just quit drawing

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 17:59:04 2020 No.4682061

>>4682028
or you stop that mindset of other people need to love your work for it to be meaningful draw for yourself first

and regarding having a following and making money if you ever want to do it with art, well you dont need 100% of the population to like your shit

stop letting rando's comments get to you ffs even the top pros get comments like that if someone cant take that heat then either really quit or never share your work there problem solved

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 18:47:02 2020 No.4682125 File: 1.29 MB, 410x568, 1575995973457.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >my very first commission

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 19:16:02 2020 No.4682157 >>4681239 >>4681268 Stop being dumb then

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 19:55:12 2020 No.4682192 >>4682125 congrats anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 20:14:50 2020 No.4682213 >>4681485 Complaining about people who want to get the "perks" of XYZ just because you struggle more with XYZ is literally crabbing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 20:18:55 2020 No.4682216 >>4682125 Congrats man

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 20:34:12 2020 No.4682247 >>4680446 >27 years old >only drew a little bit in primary school >decide to become an artist why do i enjoy suffering ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 20:44:42 2020 No.4682269 File: 43 KB, 575x551, IMG_20200529_015722-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >hand feels too weak to draw >nothing comes out right >go to take a shit >diarrhea because spicy noodles >get shit on finger

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 21:33:03 2020 No.4682342 File: 359 KB, 480x270, tumblr_mpytw0wcFZ1r8f3h4o1_500.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >You can't have more then 5 active threads at at time

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 21:43:05 2020 No.4682360

>>4680446
I finally have some time without family nagging me for social and attention, and I can't find the motivation to draw more than some rushed things before bed.
It's not even anxiety or anything like I'm used to getting sometimes. Just indifference. Which sucks because I have reasons to do it and goals to meet. I don't know if maybe I just need to take a break and play vidya for a day just to give my brain something different. But deadlines are closing in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 21:53:57 2020 No.4682385 >getting way more views on another platform than YouTube for drawing I should have switched ages ago, fuck YouTube.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 22:09:51 2020 No.4682413 >>4682385 Oh in total of the last stream is 116 views, 4 comments average 3 to 5 consistent watchers. Way much better than YouTube and I don’t have to censor as much.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 22:42:44 2020 No.4682462

>>4680787
>>4680816
>Thinking its black people leading the charge on this shit
Every time I've seen people giving artist shit for "blackfishing" its either a white women or some incredibly light skin latino woman that has identity issues. I'll tell you right fucking now most of us don't fucking care either way.
T. black GMI anon.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 22:50:11 2020 No.4682472

>>4682462
The black people on 4chan 9 times out of 10 aren’t inner city blacks, so you don’t care about the race issues because you have the luxury to afford to pursue art without living in an area where a nig will gun you down for anything. To the rest of the black community they “care” because they have nothing better to do with their lives, unlike you. Blacks would rather blame someone else for their dumb decisions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 22:50:37 2020 No.4682474 >>4682342 Stop making bait threads, nigger.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 22:54:53 2020 No.4682481
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>>4682472
>The black people on 4chan 9 times out of 10 aren’t inner city blacks
>so you don’t care about the race issues
>To the rest of the black community they “care”
>Only smart people come to 4chan
Your making alot of shit up for a community your not apart of, don't observe outside of webms on /gif/ and /pol/ and don't even consider human anon. The hundreds of fireworks going off across the street and the loud, shitty spanish music tell me I'm in the ghetto right now.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 23:12:04 2020 No.4682506

>>4682481
Rent a raid hires people to start protests. Implant them in the inner cities, along with specially marked glows to instigate and guide the protestors and you have a genuine BLM rally. The issue is the media gets involved reporting the rent a raid employees, liberal whites gobble it up like cum on a golden platter from Plato himself, and join in on the dummy protestors. This increases their numbers.

Meanwhile blacks sit back and watch what’s going on. They don’t care about the guy who died they see this as an opportunity for free shit. Like children taking advantage of mommy when Aunt Jenny comes over for a visit and she wants to appear extra nice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 23:13:37 2020 No.4682513 >>4682506 What you said has nothing to do with what I said. Are you mentally ill?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 23:14:41 2020 No.4682514 >>4682513 Yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 00:04:58 2020 No.4682634 File: 70 KB, 540x691, DWgpzRRWsAAIBeO.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4682514 Glad we cleared that up, now go take your lithium.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 00:26:42 2020 No.4682683

Probably a complaint that shows up often in the vent threads (I wouldn't know) but holy fuck I fucking hate social media. Getting traction is fucking inpossible and I feel like I'm just firing my art off into the void and watching it sail out into the difference while no one gives a shit.

I fucking hate that people are hiring off of Twitter too, because that means that only the people with visibility are seen and chosen while sub-1000 (fuck, even sub-5,000) accounts just get fucking glossed over.

I hate that the algorithm doesn't give a shit about small artists. Years of drawing and posting and I feel like I don't have shit to show for it in terms of engagement.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 00:41:39 2020 No.4682738 >>4680446 I feel like giving up, My art has been stagnant as fuck

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 00:53:14 2020 No.4682767 File: 48 KB, 1200x700, e284d9db41da20417e73a1783f9af5a36e9d348c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HOW THE FUCK DO I GET AN ARTIST GF I'M SO TIRED OF STRUGGLING ALONE WITH NO ONE TO APPRECIATE ME

Was born Masakoto Sun Jun 28 00:53:54 2020 No.4682770

I fucking hate the online art community. Its cringe and full of gatekeeping losers whose ego’s are completely wrapped up in the little pixel arrangements they make in photoshop.

I hate how pretentious and far up their ass these losers are, and none of them are actually doing anything original.

None of them are creating dragon ball z’s or Princess monoke’s

Their on twitter and art station rehashing derive design tropes vibing for the attention of ____ studio.

I hate it all. I’ll function in the underground art scene forever and ever. I’m either getting into alternative comics or starting a street wear brand to disntance myself from this cringe shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 01:03:29 2020 No.4682804 >>4682192 >>4682216 Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 01:19:01 2020 No.4682830 File: 223 KB, 500x369, congratulations.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4682125

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 01:21:56 2020 No.4682837 >>4680518 Here's a hint for pic related. They're lying.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 01:59:33 2020 No.4682894

All the time I'm constantly pissed at myself for not drawing and then I go to do it and get angry or frustrated about something or I just can't focus or something's wrong and I never end up practicing at all and just wasting my fucking time while constantly being anxious about not doing anything. I hate going on twitter and being bombarded by great art by people who have put in the hard work while I'm sitting here doing jack shit. fml

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:00:17 2020 No.4682897
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>>4682683
Yea, people like to not mention this when they give advice about how to get big on social, but the best way to jump start your growth is to be friends with bigger people. You ever wonder why, even though theres no short supply of coomer artist, that some of them just blow up over night? Its because they get into discord servers with some of the bigger artists, post their work and make friends with them. Then those bigger artist retweet them when they post on twitter.

Just like the art industry proper, its all about who you know. Maybe 5-10 years ago, when the algorithm didn't actively hide people for bullshit reasons, most people with decent art would have a good following, 10k+ easy. But now its such a crapshoot that it feels like its not worth trying.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:01:33 2020 No.4682899
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>sis-in-law and I talking to artfriend
>sis and I explain how much bank there is in coomer art and shit
>show examples
>artfriend is amazed by the numbers and low entry level
>she's even mad at herself for not having done this sooner
we might have birthed a coomer artist

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:07:01 2020 No.4682909 >>4680446 Aaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:35:11 2020 No.4682940 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 05:05:37 2020 No.4683058

I've been drawing seriously for about 7 years but I've never tried doing lineart seriously, probably only once or twice a year. My lines are shit and I chicken scratch like crazy when sketching, I draw on and off and go months not drawing, I have to reference almost every pose and object I want to draw because I can't imagine shit in my head, I feel like I'm never going to get where I want to be. People tell me I'm good at pixel art but I fucking hate doing it and it only looks good because I can pick away at it unlike normal lined art. I don't know what I want to draw either or what my goal is. I can't complain to my art friends because they're just going to coddle me or brush it off if I ask them to rip my art apart

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 05:22:06 2020 No.4683083 I just don't get drawing even after learning it for a decent while now. I'll never be able to draw from imagination and there's nothing that I'm even remotely good at drawing, even things I've learnt and studies I'm as competent as a first timer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 05:37:45 2020 No.4683100 File: 40 KB, 600x600, seriouscatcover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Whats with the high amount of low-quality posts lately?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 06:59:14 2020 No.4683205 >>4683100 Your first summer on..,oh wait, all the kids are home since god knows when. So that explains everything

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 09:12:25 2020 No.4683402 >>4683058 Sounds tough man, maybe making a seperate acct for practicing lines so that your friends won't know it's you. it's gonna be a hassle maintaining 2 accts tho

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 09:15:05 2020 No.4683408 >>4683083 same bro, been also trying to be more creative but it looks so bland and boring.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 09:58:05 2020 No.4683480 >>4683058 Same but for me it's painting. I absolutely hate rendering and picking colors for my work

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 10:05:44 2020 No.4683498

>>4680446
>Spent years copying and studying anatomy, re-doing assignments over and over to make sure my "basics" decent enough
>Tried to draw anime, still looked like shit
>Did more fundamental studies in hopes to fix this
>Something always felt off when trying to learn my basics, as if learning all this was "pointless" but still pushed through.
>Attempt anime again, it looks just as bad as it did before
>Finally spoke with japanese animators, most explained how they didn't even bother learning anatomy
>Said fuck everything, just drew what I wanted
>Saw more progress in 3 months than I have seen in 4 years.

I remember tehmeh posts explaining this scenario. I didn't realize I was get stuck in this rut. I just thought if I learned another anatomy and perspective, I could draw anything. Holy shit was I wrong.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 10:12:57 2020 No.4683515
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Can anyone explain to me why artists bitch out and go on a tantrum when you tell them to quit art if they don't enjoy it?

If you don't like drawing then quit. It's that simple. Nobody has a gun to your head and forcing you to draw. If you're one of those suffering artists types then fuck you too.

Just give up. There's nothing wrong with quitting if you don't want to put forth the effort. Bunch of whiny bitches.

Either put in the effort if you want to improve or quit bitching about it and quit art entirely. You don't NEED to be an artist. You're replaceable just like everyone else.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 10:16:38 2020 No.4683524 >>4683515 Some of us have actual creative drive and and want more out of life than just hedonistic enjoyment.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 10:19:08 2020 No.4683531 >>4683515 Because that’s their only source of income or they hate jobs that require social activity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 10:22:41 2020 No.4683542 >>4683515 >You don't NEED to be an artist. doesn't necessarily have to be a drawing, but imagine not feeling the need to create something. ngmi.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 10:25:44 2020 No.4683552

in a rp group, everyone's sharing art of their oc. I want to share mine too but my skill is more advanced after doing a bit of studies. it's not pro level, and I'm probably overly thinking this, but I love the group and don't want anyone to be discouraged.. wwyd?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 10:45:02 2020 No.4683577 >>4683552 No one will care. Just don't spam way too much and don't act egotistically.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 10:54:52 2020 No.4683594 >>4683515 You ever see someone try hard to be good at something? There are times when they feel frustration just like anyone else, telling someone to quit when they're trying and just voicing their frustration just makes you a crab.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 12:52:27 2020 No.4683791

>my brother starts a new porn account
>his first post he adds a few tags including princess connect despite what he drew being completely unrelated to priconne

Is he fucking with me? Does he know who I am on the internet or Is this just coincidence or just brotherly instinct?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 12:55:03 2020 No.4683798 >>4683791 Why the fuck do you know your brother's porn account? And right after he has created it too. Did he show you or something?

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 12:58:55 2020 No.4683809

>>4683798

He doesn’t like his real name so he uses a fake name when we get mail. A fake first and last name. So when I google it his accounts pop up one by one leaving a trail until eventually I found his Instagram and Twitter.

Even if he didn’t do that he deliberately posted something on Facebook that lead to his account anyway so it’s public information. Its not just that but I used to have a soundcloud and whatever I liked he liked back so I got spooked and stopped using SoundCloud. I don’t know if it’s coincidental or if he really knows who I am and if so, how did he find out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 13:08:46 2020 No.4683820 File: 77 KB, 346x279, why.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I am severely burnt out but I feel extremely guilty when taking breaks. It's like not drawing takes more effort than drawing.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 13:30:33 2020 No.4683873
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>>4680446
>have been drawing since about 2005
>started taking it more seriously in 2014
>have attended figure drawing classes
>have watched a shit ton of tutorials
>am ok when drawing from a reference
>sit down to draw from imagination after a long while
>barely out of /beg/ tier
>my original goal was to draw good comics from imagination

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 13:42:23 2020 No.4683891 File: 62 KB, 860x725, 1590295643294.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4683873 Use Construction!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 15:19:38 2020 No.4684077 >>4682897 Guess I'm fucked then anon. I have no way into exclusive artist discords and the few that I'm in are catered around the works of specific artists who barely ever engage.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 17:05:11 2020 No.4684290 File: 388 KB, 825x1292, Screenshot_20200628-160340.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] shit like this is so demotivating it's insane

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 17:14:10 2020 No.4684306 Shipping and woke twitter made me realize why some people go the loli and other degeneracies route. They're the only spaces that leave you alone.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 17:24:21 2020 No.4684323 >>4684290 No this is uplifting I hope she pays me

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 17:46:10 2020 No.4684372 >>4681279 Share your twitter I need inspiration

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 17:59:50 2020 No.4684408

>>4684077
Well, you could always get lucky and the algorithm throws you ontop of the pile of shit. But there's also a good chunk of artist that have discords you get into for supporting their patreon and stuff, so you could go fishing there, posting your work and trying to interact. At the end of the day, your gonna end up feeling like you just cleaned shit from an asshole with your tongue anyway, so its a matter of picking your poison.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 19:10:31 2020 No.4684542
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>follow arstist from the US
>it’s a nonstop barrage of parroted political statements with no substance or context, retweets and whining about flavour of the hour issue
>if you’re lucky you get to see a drawing every 50 or so tweets
A real shame, some of you are alright, but you really need to lay off the victim complex

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 19:21:25 2020 No.4684563 >>4684408 Already try that unfortunately. The issue is that only a handful of people really seem to care, as everyone is either there to do the same thing or to learn from the people who are better than them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 19:56:22 2020 No.4684685 >>4684542 You should tell them that on Twitter and see what happens.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 20:00:45 2020 No.4684699 >>4684685 This. Do it anon.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 20:06:32 2020 No.4684732

>>4684685
Yeah, why dont i also stick my dick in a tank of starved piranhas.
Currently i give new followed people a couple of days to see what they post and more often than not i end up eye rolling and unfollowing, again it’s a shame that i can’t appriciate someones art without getting lectured on pointless shit i couldn’t give less than a fuck about

Tldr: i just wanna grill for god’s sake

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 20:18:04 2020 No.4684770 >>4684732 Might as well feed your dick to piranhas, since you're such a pussy anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 20:24:31 2020 No.4684790 >>4684770 Actually i’ll have you know i’m tough as nails mister, besides i’d like to know why you correlate venting on a vent thread to being a pussy.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 20:51:59 2020 No.4684880

>>4684732
Yeah and that's why nobody else calls these people out on it and gets them under control. That's why Americans are like this. They're little children that have never gotten punished for doing stupid things and now it's their right and if you're silent you're agreeing with whatever they're upset with.

You can't shit talk America for letting these people get out of hand and act like entitled children when you don't do anything about it yourself. I'd accept it if you actually told these people they were being stupid before u following them but you're too much of a pussy and you're honestly acting just like them. Complaining about something on the internet where the people you're bitching about will never see it instead of taking action.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 20:59:34 2020 No.4684895 >>4684880 No. They wouldn’t gain anything if i told them they are being bratty on their own fucking account and i wouldn’t gain anything neithet. I feel contemp at best and slight annoyance at worst, they truly need to get their shit together

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 21:27:40 2020 No.4684957
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>be productive for several days straight, finish two drawings on the same day too
>feel reinvigorated, return to twitter, fix up my profile
>very happy with my art
>realize i haven't jacked off for several days
>eventually give in
>feel all the motivation and drive exiting out of my penis
>too tired to draw or even picture ideas in my head, just want to sleep
I don't know if this is a nofap meme or what, but every time I get a creative spurt it's because I haven't fapped in weeks. Then I do it and it's gone again...

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 00:43:35 2020 No.4685285

I'm Unmotivated to draw and it's starting to give me depression.

>I'm friends with a few artist whom are miles ahead of me, it all started out when I joined a discord server created by an artist I admire. We all got close and things have been smooth for almost a year until the past few months.

>I feel like I'm not respected anymore, not to mention the server is dead too. The only activity is when we all talk. I'm the closest with the artist I admire, even helped them through some some irl shit but things have been different recently. I've come to realize my motivation to draw has become based on my interactions with these people.

>I get depressed if no one talks to me and it kills my drive to draw. I'm debating on just leaving the server as I can't concentrate like I used to but I also don't want to lose these friends. I only feel decent when I talk to them and small things always bother me. I know they're all in another server that I'm not a part of as one will occasionally mention it in our server. This has been eating away at me.

>Someone else left for similar reasons and has really been improving their art. I kinda wish I left when they did.

I know this is a homo blog post but holy shit I just want to draw and not care about this. And I don't know what to do.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 00:58:32 2020 No.4685303

>>4684290
>two jews being jewish
Isn't Palmer the guy who got famous by drawing overrendered pokemon?
Basically by piggiebacking on a franchise he had no rights to?
What if sakimi has an assistant or a ghost artist? As long as the contracts are in order, it's none of the other people business.
I fucking hate her art but i hate cancelniggers like this even more

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 01:12:27 2020 No.4685324 File: 47 KB, 773x935, qas33kqguo601.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Go on /ic/ >Give advice >They don't respond

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 02:10:49 2020 No.4685404

>>4685285
it sounds like you attached your art journey to that discord or people you made friendships with in there

the reason the other person that left is improving is maybe because they realised this and are now finding more fun in doing what they really want by their own motivations, aswell as these art discords tend to be motivation black holes that suck all the fun and excitement leaving you with only wasting time "socializing"

i feel alot like you and been working out of, some advice id give you is to take a break, 1 week or 2 week whateever without drawing unless you feel like it and absolutely no discord "socializing"

after this little detox you can try and get back into your art and maybe you will find a huge weight off your shoulders as no comparisons/expectations regarding other people have gone

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 02:15:47 2020 No.4685410

>>4685324
giving advice is like lending some money to a friend

you always give the money without even expecting to get it back and in an amount where if you really dont get it back you are still ok

give advice but dont expect anything from the person, if the person wants tot ake it they will even if they dont respond, if they dont care they wont care no matter what you do

this is a shitty place but still the best place to actually have any resources or input as most discords are circlejerks
so if i can help anyone to improve maybe they will in the future also help others and we get a core numbers of anons who actually make this place good even if a minority

or all im saying is dumb trash caused by my happy pills and you should disregard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 02:21:00 2020 No.4685412 File: 702 KB, 1243x1789, 1578353901627.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4685410 sad that the world works that way, but its the best we've got.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 02:47:14 2020 No.4685442
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>>4680446
I made a animated draw basically for free for a person, later i find out that the same person commissioned a diferent artist for the animated draw but instead he actually paid him, moral of the history
>I'm a fucking idiot

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 02:53:34 2020 No.4685446 My dominant hand was burnt pretty badly (2nd-degree burns all over the fingers and knuckles) as a teenager and over a decade later I still wonder if my manual dexterity was permanently damaged and my drawings will forever suffer because of that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 02:55:24 2020 No.4685448 >>4685404 Thank you for your response. You're absolutely right about the person who left, they've even said so. I think I'll detox for a week and see how I feel. I just want to detach my from these people and move forward

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 03:52:12 2020 No.4685529
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>artists i look up to made it by drawing whatever the fuck they wanted
>no history of ever pandering to anything
>if they draw fanart, it's of things they genuinely like like obscure video games and old cartoons
>their posts still get thousands of likes, retweets and attention
>if i choose to do the same i stay at 0/0
>i have to resort to drawing fucking minmin and nessa and bea and helltaker or whatever the fuck to get just a crumble of attention
>it's still fucking minimal like 6 retweets and 20 likes
It is just so tiresome. I love drawing but I also want to be seen and my art to be appreciated. Pandering and drawing soulless fanarts of things I don't care about leave me feeling disgusted too.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 04:02:15 2020 No.4685541

>>4680446
I feel like I'm gonna get cancelled over retarded shit I said when I was younger (basically said a lot of edgy shit on a YouTube vid, at least a handful of my followers saved the vid and have threatened to reupload it on more than one occasion). Heavily debating on whether or not I should "fake my death", deleting all of my social media, ghosting everybody that used to know me, and starting over fresh on a new account. It's retarded that I even have to worry about something like this, but I guess that's the price to pay if I want to work in the industry.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 04:08:04 2020 No.4685553

>>4685446
>pretty badly (2nd-degree burns all over the fingers and knuckles)
I'm not sure how bad that is. Can you move your fingers? Can you write? Can you at least hold a pencil?
I'm sure you heard it already, but you don't really use your fingers for anything other than holding the pencil when drawing as you should be drawing from your shoulder/elbow/wrist anyways.
Also, unless you suffer from nerve damage, pain or smth like that, there should be something you can do to improve manual dexterty. I know there are exercises to do that for people with no burns, so you should look around or maybe ask a doctor.

>>4685529
>I love drawing but I also want to be seen and my art to be appreciated.
Then show it to people you personally know. Social media is shit and you should know that by now.
>Pandering and drawing soulless fanarts of things I don't care about leave me feeling disgusted too.
Then don't do it. Draw the things you like, improve your craft and things will start to fall into place. The artists you look up to are probably /pro/s, don't measure yourself against them. They can draw whatever they like and get attention because they have the skill and, most importantly, an audience. If you are on 4chan, you most likely have niether.

/vent/
>>4685410
It's so fucking true. It sucks even worse when the person you're giving advice to is someone you know in real life and you really want to help them out.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 04:12:09 2020 No.4685557
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>>4680446
I had this friend commission something small like over 2+ months ago and I still can't be bothered to finish it. In fact I can't even bother to commit and focus on drawing anything for more than 2h if any. I hate myself and I want to DIE.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 04:27:16 2020 No.4685575 >urge to draw has been getting stronger each and every day >ideas of what to draw has been getting more and more blank

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 04:30:46 2020 No.4685580

>tfw the old artists you used to look up to on pixiv don't look as good to you anymore
>new crop are just fundamentally better
It feels like artists popping up in the last 3 years are on another level now. And much higher in quantity. What caused this boom? Was art not being as fruitful monetarily back then a reason

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 05:14:35 2020 No.4685642

>>4685580
alo of people get complacent, like they reacha fanbase then go "now i dont need to improve anymore"

>>4685575
use one of those DnD or random generators, unironically redraw a character or artwork in your style, go to reddit writingprompts and try illustrate someones comment story theres so many ways to get ideas

also the ol'faithful grind fundies/practise what you lack

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 05:59:28 2020 No.4685699

ngl im so happy i joined deviantart when I was like 13. drew everyday, multiple times a day, had a community of other little autist all trying to out draw one another.

seriously think it gave me such a headstart in art. i was studying without even realizing i was studying. the fundies came so easily. nowadays i have to push myself to look up a rendering tutorial and drawing takes so much mental effort.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:21:07 2020 No.4685742
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>>4680446
>been drawing since a child
>the only thing ive ever found interest in
>all my classmate laughed at me for drawings
>teachers told me to not pursue art chose the sciences as i was an average student who could do fairly well in science (because i just watched discovery )
>now in my shit country top medical school in my 3rd year
>i hate it have tried suicide multiple times
>cant be a good doctor nor a good artist
>actually get time to do some art due t pandemic
>my 14 year old self made much better stuff than what i can do now
>whats the point
>i think i should give up the only thing that used to give me joy because parents forced me to pursue something i dont even like
>there is no market for art/animation where i live
>should just become a lifeless fly in society and do what they do

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:22:57 2020 No.4685745 >>4685699 I regret deleting my DA at 13/14 and not just continue to copy anime drawings like I was doing.At leats I'd have a larger following.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:38:57 2020 No.4685828

I think I actually hate looking at art now. At the very best I look at something new and I feel nothing except whatever interest I might have in the color choices or another technical quirk, in 99% cases what I see makes me sad or disgusted. The majority of what people call amazing or inspiring doesn't even register as having any artistic value to me. It's so incredibly depressing to live in a context where people celebrate things you detest and there's nothing you can do about it. If I made examples of the things I hate I would upset every single person reading this, I'd be called a snob etc. And things are only going further and further in this direction so I feel incredibly alienated. As an artist I feel like I will never ever have any value no matter how skilled I might get.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:53:41 2020 No.4685843 >>4685828 Wow you are so special here's your star sticker now go away

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:54:44 2020 No.4685845 >>4685742 Graduate, then retire at 30, and draw. The stress of uni gives you tunnel vision

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 07:58:59 2020 No.4685853 4 day work week this week hip hip hooray hip hip hooray HIP HIP HOORAY

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:26:17 2020 No.4685901 >>4685845 bro....that actually helped a bit thank you

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:50:33 2020 No.4685937 >>4685843 Yeah exactly.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:02:33 2020 No.4685949
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>>4685828
Imagine being this obsessed over colors, while your race is being systematically outbred and suppressed by the isnane policies of neocon-marxist globalists whose only goal is to turn everyone into an immature, helpless low-wage paypig while half teh population is being made obsolete.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:10:03 2020 No.4685956 >>4682125 good for you, hope we see more people here making it

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:24:21 2020 No.4685977
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>>Have 9-5 vidja game art job
>>We don't have an art director, because studio is new and hella small
>>Bossman sucks at expressing what he wants, his requests are vague
>>Me and the other artist are struggling here
>>OFW its been months, and we are still confused as to what this project is looking like.
I lke doing art for a living, but if it keeps going like this, I worry we'll be out of a job...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:34:14 2020 No.4685987 >>4685977 talk to your boss

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:39:34 2020 No.4685998 >>4685977 Pretty much why I left my art career of 10 years. Do that long enough and eventually you’ll burn out and get tired of everyone’s bullshit. Protip: 99% of customers don’t know what they want from a creative

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:40:06 2020 No.4685999 >>4685949 I see a lot of these replies that say unhinged/tangentially related stuff in a badly or oddly phrased way with a meme face attached and it genuinely feels like bots when it happens.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:40:22 2020 No.4686000 >>4680446 I can't tell if I'm depressed, tired or lazy. Either way, I find it hard to draw right now.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:40:29 2020 No.4686001

>>4683791
A little update to this. How the hell is he getting a bunch of likes out the gate already? And I clicked on his followers and it looks like big name people are following him but his art is /beg/ trash. Is there some secret to twitter I'm not getting or something?

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:44:11 2020 No.4686010

>>4685987
we have, from what I can ascertain, he doesn't have a solid idea what he wants to the point of giving clear examples, its like trying to describe a dream to someone. So much of the nuance is lost. maybe if he himself was an artist? I dunno. Maybe its me and the other artist that are the problem. Bossman has been in the industry several years, but this is our first gig.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:45:53 2020 No.4686013 >>4685998 he has been in the industry long enough to be better at this, I'd hope....

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:52:10 2020 No.4686023

>>4686013
No such thing. People don’t change, especially non-creatives. He’s either and idea guy or a marketing guy right? Unfiltered by an account manager or an art director they are the bane of any artists working life, and it’ll be hell. If you can find another gig, I suggest bailing this one. Unless you’re up to the challenge of managing a total idiot who’ll overwork you.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:58:55 2020 No.4686032

>>4686023
hes a programmer.
and circumstances are such that I'm in it for the long haul. I'll suck it up and stick it out till this project either fails horribly, or does well enough that we can hire an art director for the next one. Or so help me, if the idea I pitch gets approved, I'll stage a creative coup. I have ideas dammit, good ones.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 11:16:49 2020 No.4686137
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>wants to draw
>[user: woman_hood enters the chat]
>tummy aches
>spine feels as if someone is trying to pull the bones apart
>takes pain killers, does jack shit
>gets all prepared to draw, art supplies, sketchbook, stickers, crayons, etc
>ends up doing nothing and instead goes on 4chan looking at threads

stg im gonna get a hysterectomy, id rather live with a scooped out gut than live with this disgusting flab of human waste. literally feels debilitating at times

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 12:35:59 2020 No.4686230
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>make some finished pieces
>post on insta, spread them out over a few days
>steady influx of new followers
>focus on other shit for a week
>a third of the people fucking un-follow
Why? I'm not clogging up your feed or being inactive for months on end. Are you trying to give me anxiety?

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 12:56:03 2020 No.4686277
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>My accuracy is shit
>Been training accuracy almost exclusively for the last 6 months
>Try Dorian Iten, Keys to Drawing, meme grids and more
>Actually got worse than when I was just eye balling things which was already bad
I FUCKING HATE MYSELF GODDAMN IT!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 13:21:49 2020 No.4686364 >>4686137 Have you considered a form of birth control to help manage that? And yeah, shit sucks. I wish I were male sometimes, they have it ez mode biologically

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 13:47:03 2020 No.4686400 I hate thinking sentience is a punishment language is a tool of sinners purge my soul

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 13:48:34 2020 No.4686403 >>4686137 >>4686364 This. Birth control makes my period nonexistent. Get the depo shot or the arm implant. No reason not to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 13:49:42 2020 No.4686407 >>4686230 Lots of people follow for the refollow. If you don't follow back then they won't keep you on their list.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 13:53:14 2020 No.4686420 >>4685324 most people don't reply

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 14:00:18 2020 No.4686434 >>4686230 >insta Well there’s your problem. Instagram is know for the amount of bots and people that do follow for follow shit. Those type of people don’t care about content you make, they just hoping you follow back.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 14:12:42 2020 No.4686453 >>4685999 Trips of truth. That stupid shit is clogging up the board.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 14:41:48 2020 No.4686491 >>4686453 The people who shitpost with Wojaks or whatever is the popular and new buzzword might as well be bots, because neither do any critical thinking whatsoever. Pretty sure at least 1/3 of this board are just /pol/ and /r9k/ shitposters

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 14:56:30 2020 No.4686521 >>4686434 the upside is that it's almost completely apolitical if you choose to use it that way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 15:13:36 2020 No.4686587 drawing regularly and doing my normal computer job is really hurting my hand

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 15:13:55 2020 No.4686589 Why ask me for advice when you're immediately going to say you don't want to change things? Waste of my time, honestly

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 15:24:00 2020 No.4686613 >>4686001 Post his work i wanna c

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 15:39:48 2020 No.4686658

>>4686137

Fish oil supplements are basically ibuprohpen without the setbacks, they lessen the inflammation for me a ton. If youre into it you can just take those, or try eating more oily fish (like salmon like a week out from the day) to see if it helps. And I used to have literally crippling pain for most of my life too, so I know it works.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 15:42:56 2020 No.4686665

>>4686589

This used to happen to me constantly in my fitness days. Its flattering because it means people can see your gains, but its also annoying when you put time into explaining how somethnig works just for someone to blow you off or try to twist your response into validating their practices which obviously dont work.
Its part of why I just tell people the standard "diet and exercise" response and "just draw". Theyre both technically true and it means I dont have to deal with their monkey behavior.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 16:02:58 2020 No.4686717

>$15/hr at home job with comcast
>have to actually work though
vs
>$12/hr job (current)
>don't do shit for 6 hours work 2 hours
>1 hour lunch, two 15 minute breaks, 2 8 minute bathroom breaks

I'm conflicted here. On one hand with the at home job I can work in my room and get paid more. On the otherhand my current job isn't even that bad, I get tons of time to fuck around and I come in late and the HR/Owner doesn't give a fuck.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 16:39:09 2020 No.4686831

>>4680446
>Put together a small team for Shonen Jump contest
>One writer, one drafts/penciller, and I'm doing the inks/BG and screentones
>Writer refuses to write because he's too busy playing Vidya with the pencil artist and "we have so much time bros don't worry"
>Pencil artist is also playing Vidya butvant do drafts until the plot is at least finished being outlined
>Nobody wants to kick anyone out or quit
>Nobody cares about how hard they're making this on me or other guy to finish and polish their shit up by deadline
>Want to quit and do this by myself but I'm shit at writing
Tldr my friends are lazy and suck and it was a mistake to team up with them

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 16:50:07 2020 No.4686859

>>4686831
could also be your project wasn't engaging to begin with / you didn't find a common vision. Or maybe your writer was actually pretty incompetent and/or lacking in self-confidence, and him not delivering anything had more to do with shame than with laziness.
>busy playing vidya
never mind, your friends are probably deadbeats after all.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 16:51:52 2020 No.4686865
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>>4686831
I know that feeling all too good unfortunately
Have you ever wondered why most mangaka start out completely alone?
Also writing a shonen story is easy, anon.
Just put kids in school and give them superpowers with a baddie to defeat at the end.
Do not forget friendship though. Friendship is very much important.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 17:14:40 2020 No.4686917 >>4680446 Digital is fucking shit and retarded, I feel like a fucking mongoloid at pretending to draw something while I'm telling the fucking computer where to put the color dots

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 17:22:50 2020 No.4686936

>>4685999
I think its just a handful of /pol/ schizophrenic retards that shit up the board. People have too much time on their hands due to the kung flu. On top of that, /ic/ is a bit more left leaning so there's not many other people the /pol/fags can bounce off of.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 17:27:50 2020 No.4686942 >>4686717 Are your bills getting paid with $12/hr? Is your sanity worth $400 a month? I'd personally pick low stress job as long as I have enough money to pay my bills and save some.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 17:30:16 2020 No.4686945

>>4680446
I am having a lot of trouble wrapping my head around the idea of Instagram people getting pissed off at fanartists for having art from a lot of shows, but no Steven Universe. Like if they do not have the required amount of Steven Universe pics, they should be hated somehow.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 17:36:32 2020 No.4686955 >>4686936 The main battleground is /lit/, sadly. I just want the politicals to leave.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 18:29:50 2020 No.4687102
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>>4685999
>imagine being this new
You know you could always go back to r*ddit where humanity isn't allowed and you'll get good soi points for parroting the allowed narrative.
lurk moar, you quintuple newnigger

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 18:47:05 2020 No.4687147

>>4686859
I really like our story and I think it's really cool, everyone was really excited about it until they got a new game and they keep putting it off for their stupid shit. I don't want to go off and steal the story for myself but I also kind of don't give a fuck about them right now. I think I was the only one with my heart in it from the start...

>>4686865
I'll try dude hopefully it won't be shitty

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 19:00:17 2020 No.4687175 File: 295 KB, 1024x512, FB_IMG_15934458626251406.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I need to know /ic/, is this price tag appropriate for this level? I am not this person, but I believe I am roghly equivalent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 19:01:23 2020 No.4687177 >>4687175 Nah I'd go at least 50% higher

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 19:30:44 2020 No.4687252 >>4687177 I must ask if this is ironic. I live in a shithole of a country where 6 dollars per hour is what you expect on a regular job. I would be happy with 40 for a full color character of that quality

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 19:41:36 2020 No.4687270 >>4687147 how long has it been going on for? if it's just day or two, maybe a week of them trying out smash or whatever you're overreacting a bit longer than that then your project might be fucked

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 19:46:58 2020 No.4687280 >>4687175 Prices seem kind of low, although the computer coloring masks a lot of faults and amateurishness I see in some of the forms. It depends if you or the artist can pull off convincing emotions or poses.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 21:03:17 2020 No.4687422

>spend maybe an hour a day studying and practicing
>spend the rest of it doing god knows what
>suddenly it's time for bed
>repeat
Hours of my life keep slipping by and I never know what I actually have done in that time. It's like I blink and suddenly hours have flown by, nothing I wanted to do gets done or I just haven't spent as much time doing the things I had wanted to spend time on that day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 21:13:32 2020 No.4687442 >>4687422 you literally know what you did tho.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 22:07:13 2020 No.4687571

>>4687270
We started when we found out about the contest (first day submissions opened). They worked really hard on it with me for the first two weeks and have been slacking and saying "we'll do it tomorrow don't worry we have x months left" and just playing video games Ina LL their free time every day, ever since. I have been working away doing concepting and character turnarounds while I wait, I only have been asking them once per 1-2 week if they had any progress made on their own or wanted to get together to work on it more. Lately I've been pushing them more but it's because I'm getting worried about the workload and lack of progress (the story is only beginning and a middle with no end and nothing else has been started).

I think they're not considering the fact that someone needs to do a job after them. If the deadline was for story and pencils they might be able to make it, but I still have to ink characters and background, do black fills, line the panels, put in the final speech bubbles and all text, draw out any extreme perspectives (our penciler can't do it and asked if I could), as well as screentone in 2 different resolutions (one for web viewer and one for print, to avoid moire patterning on viewing). I'm probably going to have to drop the 2 versions of toning and go with one big one and let the web viewer look like trash already. I have a lot of work to do after they're done, and we were planning for a longer one-shot at around 45-50 pages so we could get some cool full page spreads in at good moments.

They wanted to do 3-4 entries as a team but that is definitely not happening as they're not doing anything. It's probably going to be only the one and I'm worried that even that won't get done (they want me to do the highest quality manga art I can manage in the inking, which takes more time than for me than I think they realize)

OP Mon Jun 29 22:16:09 2020 No.4687591 [DELETED]

>>4687571
Look up Robert McKee. HIs system for storytelling is really organic and great, being based stuff like character desire and turning points. It's exactly the same as Kishotenketsu, the system Japanese Mangaka and writers use to write stories.

Just take over writing the script. Get it done. It's only natural people will take different paths in life and the worst thing you can do is force them to work and ruin your relationship with them.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 22:17:46 2020 No.4687595

>>4687571
Look up Robert McKee. HIs system for storytelling is really organic and great, being based stuff like character desire and turning points. It's exactly the same as Kishotenketsu, the system Japanese Mangaka and writers use to write stories.

Just take over writing the script. Get it done. It's only natural people will take different paths in life and the worst thing you can do is force them to work and ruin your relationship with them.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 22:30:20 2020 No.4687622

>>4687595
Thank you for that advice, I'll look into that and hopefully I can get this done. It's important to me that I at least try and do an entry for this.

And yeah I don't want to push them about it any more if they are uninterested in it like this. I just thought they still wanted to work on it and were maybe distracted or losing track of time but I think they were very interested at first and then quickly decided they don't want to work on it anymore. :(

boxman Mon Jun 29 23:51:55 2020 No.4687723
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pray to god you never get put on an anti-psychotic like abilify /ic/

it'sone thing to not be able to draw, but to draw something complete and just feel absolutely nothing afterwards is a hell i would never wish upon any of you.

im stuck doing shit like pic related because i can no longer make real art.

im living with dad who won't let me live here unless i got a shot of 300mg abilify every month.

take away an artists ability to create, the one thing he has, my life has become a meaningless black hole of fear anxiety and anguish.

i have no mouth and i must scream.

i have no hands and i must create.

when i told him "dad i love art more than anything else in this world, more than girls, money or friendship could buy. It makes me feel like a god, and my self esteem and high standards are met when i create a great work of art."

"no thats weird. you're weird boxman. i wish you were normal."

fuck this world. fuck fear and worry.

now in order to cope with the anti-psychotic i've had to resort to shoplifting cough medicine which makes me create. I hate myself so much. I used to be the good guy, what the hell happened? I'll tell you what happened, i had a couple bad trips on drugs and now im labeled forever a "danger to myself"

I feel like alan turing. spending the last precious years of my twenties being chemically castrated.

i repel girls now even. people can see im a mopey mess and thats not attractive.

ill never change. i will always love art more than anything else in this world even if i can't feel it. cherish what you got guys, it really can be taken away in horrifying way.

The next time you get stuck, think of ol' boxman cheering you on by the sidelines. even if its some sucky doodle, dont you dare ever give up. do it for me /ic/, because i can't. GMI

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 23:58:00 2020 No.4687738 >>4687723 Um just get a crappy job and move out of your dad's house.

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 00:34:49 2020 No.4687792

>>4687723
I've been stuck for quite a long time boxman, I'm unable to give up however. Hope everything turns alright for you, you should make plans (serious ones and not immediate) to become independent and leave your dad behind so you can become what you really want to be in life, it's a big change, gonna be difficult and you'll have to learn how to make ends yourself probably working shitty jobs but in the end is gonna be worth it and you'll gain your life back
>.t ex boxman with a dayjob, still shit at art however but now I can practice it freely

>>	boxman Tue Jun 30 01:31:25 2020 No.4687882 >>4687792 >>4687738 i'm currently applying to teach english in japan :)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 01:49:18 2020 No.4687907 File: 159 KB, 260x280, 1578094805955.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >don't practice drawing for a few days because busy >try drawing today >lost all skill and desire to draw

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 01:49:40 2020 No.4687909 >>4687882 Ok that's good, don't know if that's the simplest solution but ok. Japan is expensive.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 02:45:45 2020 No.4687995 >>4687723 >pray to god you never get put on an anti-psychotic like abilify I have that shit in my house but it's not for me

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 02:47:50 2020 No.4687998 >>4687723 I like your composition tho, Boxman.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 03:08:34 2020 No.4688016 File: 55 KB, 800x442, 1547345756479.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >what do you think of my art :^) >leave a twitter for hour and come back and see what people think of you :^) >post your art and I will tell you what I like about it :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 03:12:28 2020 No.4688022 I don't want to draw because I'm too /beg/ to draw what I want, and because every "study" and "sketch" I churn out looks like shit. It just feels like as a /beg/ I have so many problems that I have no idea where to even begin to work on them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 03:35:51 2020 No.4688039 >>4688022 You should draw anyways otherwise you'll be stuck in this hell forever. Also, you're probably lacking in your fundamentals so try shape form and value first

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 04:18:19 2020 No.4688075
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>>4687723
Does your dad drink alcohol? Just tell him to stop being stupid and to use his own cognition instead of screwing your life over to protect his ego. What he is forcing on you is much worse than any other "illegal" substances. Don't give up, you will never lose your soul.

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 06:38:47 2020 No.4688193

>>4687723
>pray to god you never get put on an anti-psychotic like abilify /ic/
I was on abilify and other shit for depression, they fucked me up big time. But I was lucky and I had a bit of an epiphany after I quit that crap and doctors in general. I love my art more than ever although the art world sucks major dick now so I will never be able to to anything with it.

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 06:59:48 2020 No.4688221

>>4680446
I was finally starting to make big improvements. My lineart was thinner than it ever had been before and my art was doing great. For the last week now, and since I changed devices, I can't draw to save my life. Frankly it's very discouraging because this device is supposedly stronger, and still...
Right now I'm considering just saying fuck it and going back to lurking forever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 07:24:12 2020 No.4688257 >>4688075 >marijuana harming others A surprise to be a sure but the triggered mad ravings of potheads this will cause is welcome

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 07:25:04 2020 No.4688260 >>4680446 I'm insecure and I fear no matter how fucking hard I try I'll never finish one episode of my animated series FML

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 07:30:30 2020 No.4688268

>Put hours of work into detailing and accurately shaping the characters, scene, ect
>Try to get recognition for your years of work
>Everyone instead shits on you for that ONE thing they don't like about your art
>You're too deep into your style to be able to fix it
Why the fuck does this happen?

boxman Tue Jun 30 07:39:51 2020 No.4688273

>>4688075

he's not an alcoholic, far from it. He's a savant at chemistry and my mom is also a STEM major. They love my art, and if anything are fairly critical about it, they just don't understand the lifestyle that goes into making art pieces and that's where we differ.

my dad believes in pills first, therapy never. He also has an emotional intelligence of zero.
Don't get me wrong, I love my father, and genuinely believe him to be an all around better person on paper and in reality. If anyone is the asshole, it's me.

The trouble is that he doesn't understand why I can't just be on the medication. "You're still making great art boxman, sure, i'm not a fan of you chugging cough syrup to get creative, but you know you have chemically induced psychosis and abilify helps curtail that."

and he's right, i am still making artworks, but i'm not making gains whatsoever, and trying explain "art gains" to someone who doesn't do art is impossible.

See, you need a healthy amount of stress to become better at anything. The flow zone occurs when a task is challenging, but not impossible. Too little stress and you're just back in your boring comfort zone, too much stress and you give up.

abilify just eliminates all stress from my life. the average moron would coom to have that, but i hate it.
im stuck in some chemically induced hollow nirvana and unlike you guys who are actually not getting better despite putting in the effort, im not getting better because im incapable of feeling that sense of accomplishment that follows after.

abilify is great for nailing narcissists like me right in the nuts,deflating dreams, and putting you in a more realistic perspective but the problem is art requires a certain amount of narcissism and fuck man, it's nice to dream about making it every once in a while.

its not NGMI its "well i don't care if make it or not." Which isn't me! my best bet moving forward is to obviously quit the drugs and build faith with my dad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 07:51:23 2020 No.4688286 >>4688273 >unlike you guys who are actually not getting better despite putting in the effort Well yeah fuck you

>>	boxman Tue Jun 30 07:56:25 2020 No.4688291 >>4688286 kek sorry i didn't mean it like that anon,it came off wrong. just grind your loomis n vilppu and all will be well

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 08:47:35 2020 No.4688359

>>4687723
I hope that you find whatever it is in life that you need boxman. This post makes me feel bad, but only because it sounds like you're really struggling and suffering and I don't want people to have to go through that.

If you ever manage to pull through and make it to a place that makes you feel secure and happy, please let us know. I'll be thinking about you and cheering for you just as you are for us.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 08:56:31 2020 No.4688369 >>4688291 >unlike you guys who are actually not getting better despite putting in the effort but is ok just keep putting effort :) I will you gigantic cunt, hope they keep you drugged up to kingdom come and that you might never find emotions again

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 10:54:36 2020 No.4688581
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frens, i think i might have skin cancer. I found a birthmark on my scrotum that looks like malignant melanoma; fuck, my anxiety is through the roof. It if is cancer though i should be fine, because the mark is really tiny, its probably in its early stages.

Welp, guess I know how it feels to face death. Only got 2 hours of sleep last night but I'm not tired.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 11:37:55 2020 No.4688653 FUCKKK VILPPU'S WAY OF SHADING IS SO HARD

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 11:43:59 2020 No.4688668 >>4685285 >I know they're all in another server that I'm not a part of as one will occasionally mention it in our server. This has been eating away at me. Ouch feels bad man

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 11:54:15 2020 No.4688692 >>4688581 It's called getting old as I doubt you were sunbathing butt naked

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 12:32:06 2020 No.4688781
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I'M TIRED OF BUTTFUCKING RETARDS POSTING THEIR CLEAN AS SHIT AND COMPETENT ARTWORK IN /BEG/
FUCK YOU
YOU'RE NOT A /BEG/
YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT A /BEG/
YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO GET YOUR COCK STROKED WHEN SOMEONE TELLS YOU YOU'RE NOT A /BEG/
FUCK OFF ALREADY

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 12:40:19 2020 No.4688799 >>4687723 Post your work pre drugs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 12:41:34 2020 No.4688802 >>4687907 >don't practice drawing for a few days because busy >try drawing today >gain skills to draw anime with big boobs Is this yours?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 14:23:54 2020 No.4688980 Guys would you spend $300 on a plushy? There is one I want of a character I really like and it's rare but it's expensive but that's understandable because it's rare and I want it so badly what do I do?????

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 14:53:54 2020 No.4689013 >>4688980 If you can come up with that kind of cash without blowing your budget or pulling it out of some important savings pool, just buy it anon. There's no point in holding money if you're not going to use it on something that you deem is worth it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 15:02:15 2020 No.4689022 >>4680446 >Post occasional fanart pic >Comments are filled with "Why haven't you drawn MY favorite character! Are you anti (literally any 2020 buzzword ever) and hate them?"

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 15:06:58 2020 No.4689029

>>4688268
>Put hours of work into detailing and accurately shaping the characters, scene, ect
>Try to get recognition for your years of work
>Post on Instagram
>It gets less than 10 likes
>Some asshole with 20K followers steals and reposts it without giving credit
>They get all the recognition and 1200 likes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 15:09:15 2020 No.4689037 >>4688781 did the comic guy piss you off that much, anon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 15:18:37 2020 No.4689060 >>4689013 okay I bought it yay

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 15:47:31 2020 No.4689113 File: 49 KB, 700x368, 1592370413521.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4682247 you enjoy being challenged, just like any other healthy human being

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 15:50:22 2020 No.4689120 >>4689029 Sounds like copyright strike time :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 15:51:52 2020 No.4689122 >>4689029 Just shamelessly put your name on the image until you get enough followers to not have to sign your work.

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 16:09:04 2020 No.4689166

>have confidence
>study and make a lot of progress
>feel satisfied at my rate of improvement
>go to bed one day
>wake up only able to think in a flat manner
>can't feel the forms
>clear signs of symbol drawing
I just don't understand how I can do well for a week or two and then regress so hard the next day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 16:11:34 2020 No.4689171 >>4689166 not having regular sleep rhythm, not drinking enough, not moving enough and general anxiety/being in a bad mental space because I have other things going on in my life are the biggest factors for me.

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 16:27:51 2020 No.4689205
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>Start doing commissions for practice and some bucks in sept
>Learning some stuff but still a beginner
>Getting told I'm underselling
>work tends to be less good when it comes to OCs and fetishes
>Feel bad so I think I don't deserve to raise prices
>Have had back to back commissions since early May
>Keep getting DMs when my page says comms are closed
>Show them my current sheet even though I want to change it but work is too constant since temptation
>Also worried that raising my prices a bit would mean far less clients or their expectations are raised with me
I just wanna live

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 17:12:31 2020 No.4689289 File: 39 KB, 665x574, 1577615714287.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4689205 Where do I get commissions, anon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 17:12:35 2020 No.4689290 File: 589 KB, 750x721, 1580532449052.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >have low self esteem so undersell/do stuff for free all the time

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 17:18:22 2020 No.4689297 >>4689290 imagine not liking drawing and doing ir for the money, lmao nigga just get a normal job

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 18:08:07 2020 No.4689396 File: 12 KB, 800x800, rabbit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4689289 build a small following on twitter or pixiv say you're taking commissions

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 18:39:47 2020 No.4689469
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>post wip of drawing I'm actually kinda happy with
>feel like I've improved a bit, put a lot of effort and care into it and have fun making it
>everyone says it's really fucking ugly
>genuinely don't understand why
>not sure if they're just being mean because they personally don't like it or if my art is actually shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 18:43:25 2020 No.4689474 File: 85 KB, 1387x702, f6d780fa075c217150f3f231ceebbc5ffbab334cefdba8a147facfbae645be2a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4689469 Most art is shit, anon. Just give it some time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 18:44:04 2020 No.4689475 >>4689205 >has such high demand they can't even keep up >not raising your prices It's like you actively don't want to make it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 18:52:03 2020 No.4689492 >>4680446 trying to figure out an alternative international payment option to paypal, turns out it dosnt fucking exist

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 18:59:49 2020 No.4689505 >>4689469 Post it

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 19:00:00 2020 No.4689506

>>4689492
that's right.
I'm generally pro-capitalism, but banks and digital payment services should be run by the state, and it should be held fully responsible for guaranteeing all citizens access to their money in as a human right. these monopoly structures are a serious fucking problem.

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 19:17:12 2020 No.4689542
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>>4689505
It's this one. I just feel discouraged to even finish it now and I'm embarrassed to even post it here again. Apparently I have an ugly as fuck tumblr style. I know everyone has different tastes and not everyone loves this kind of stuff but why do they have to be so mean? I'm only 18 and still learning:(

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 19:21:50 2020 No.4689552

>>4689542
uuuuh, the soft shadows and general colors are nice I guess. but yes, it's pretty horrible. you could go through a basic anatomy course - particularly facial anatomy, try studying some art you find appealing, and apply your findings to your own art.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 19:25:29 2020 No.4689558 >>4689542 I like how soft she looks, work on the faces and better shading and you could be great

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 19:32:03 2020 No.4689568 >>4689542 It's the goblin face and Shrek-hands that people don't like.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 19:34:40 2020 No.4689573 >>4689542 fingers still look like sausages and the nose is still a mess just like everybody else told you but you decided to ignore, including a very well done redline. >I'm only 18 WOW you are JUST an adult somebody bring the hugbox over here!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 19:48:35 2020 No.4689593 >>4687723 For what its worth, that composition is actually really good. Especially the colors harmony. What'd you do to get on abilify?You have some sort of nervous breakdown? Seems kinda extreme.

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 20:11:55 2020 No.4689640

>>4689552
>>4689558
>>4689568
>>4689573
Thank you. I'm fixing the face and hands for sure but I'm glad my rendering isn't that awful at least.
>somebody bring the hugbox over here!!
I meant that I'm only 18 so I don't have that much experience. If I wanted a hugbox I wouldn't be posting my stuff on 4chan. Now no more arguing with strangers online and derailing the thread. Byebye

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 20:28:41 2020 No.4689684 Do you sometimes feel that by practicing so much and learning technique you are also losing soul?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 20:30:58 2020 No.4689688 File: 37 KB, 499x374, 08.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4689475 I'll raise it to prove you wrong bub

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 20:46:58 2020 No.4689725 >>4689542 Not bad really, the face kinda ruins it and is probably why people call it ugly.

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 20:55:52 2020 No.4689744
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>Finally proud of what I draw
>Everything goes well and smooth
>Post it
>Get some very nice compliments, couple of people raving about it
>then it flops miserably
It's been happening for a while now, all my old work did much better. I don't get it and i wish it wouldn't bother me so much. Not gonna post work either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 21:07:21 2020 No.4689775 >>4689542 it’s actually disgusting. dunno what else to say. I really wish I could leave a less crabby comment but it’s gross af and no one will get aroused by this

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 21:37:22 2020 No.4689831

I’m trying to color digitally for the first time in CSP. FUCK. ME. I have to deal with the “magic wand” not working properly 4 out of 5 times, had to rework the line work twice, and I have no fucking idea of how the layers can properly work. I should have practiced on a fucking apple or something before I tried doing it in a full piece, me bloody brain has exhaled its last breaths.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 21:47:08 2020 No.4689852 >>4689542 I actually think it's very cute, but you need to practice rendering and contrast. Also, try lifting the nose up a bit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 22:22:34 2020 No.4689926 >>4689688 Based nanaelposting

Anonymous Tue Jun 30 23:03:03 2020 No.4690007
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My art is clean by most standards but I feel this deep shame about it. I feel I could never post any of this this under my real name or even an alias. I don't know why I am so ashamed of it. Maybe it's because I subconsciously know it's just my own brand of ugly degeneracy. It could be that I just hate myself for failing and I feel like this is the only place where I deserve to be. Maybe I'm just inching into psychosis. The thing I care the most about in my life has become like a terrible secret for no real reason. I would like to call out for help more openly but I hate drawing more attention than my work alone can get. It feels very lonely and it crushes my heart.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 23:07:09 2020 No.4690020 >>4690007 We get it, you draw furry porn

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 23:08:00 2020 No.4690023 i lurk on /ic/ instead of drawing

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 23:09:13 2020 No.4690025 >>4689831 What are you doing with the magic wand tool? If you're filling you could just use the gap closing fill bucket.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 23:09:39 2020 No.4690027 >>4690020 I wish I did. I get all the shame and none of the pay.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 23:09:53 2020 No.4690029 >>4690023 i like finding posts like these because they remind me that i've just been browsing and refreshing /ic/ for the last half hour instead of doing something useful like making dinner

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 23:17:22 2020 No.4690041 >>4690029 what are you making for dinner anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 23:25:37 2020 No.4690066 >>4690041 lemon chicken pasta :)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 23:32:39 2020 No.4690084 >>4690066 sounds yummy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 23:36:47 2020 No.4690087 >>4680446 i have no friends

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 00:12:59 2020 No.4690149 File: 64 KB, 1280x720, 1401661932621.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >don't draw porn or anything remotely NSFW >tfw sad realization that 95% of interactions to your art are from porn artists retweeting you

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 00:18:57 2020 No.4690162 I feel guilty watching Vilppu's courses for free

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 00:31:47 2020 No.4690187 >>4690149 I know this feel, it really sucks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 01:41:29 2020 No.4690291 >>4690007 Same here. Its very hard to confess to anyone you like drawing girls with multiple monster cocks

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 02:06:41 2020 No.4690313 File: 2.26 MB, 8000x1500, boxmanngmi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4688799 thats a hard question too

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 02:25:54 2020 No.4690343 >>4689542 its mostly the face and tha hand that are off putting, work on that and you will be fine. you have potentian and good skill bnut your drawing is just unappealing because of some stylistic choices you make.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 02:26:40 2020 No.4690344 >>4690084 mmmmm... it was yommy :—)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 03:03:58 2020 No.4690397 File: 34 KB, 500x358, 954b97d69522efc5da5af439e3af4bdd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I enjoy being told how pathetic and disgusting my art is but I'm not good enough to be noticed by crabs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 03:28:22 2020 No.4690423 >>4680492 If you have time to shitpost you have time to draw

Anonymous Wed Jul 1 04:38:26 2020 No.4690491 [DELETED]

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I think the pixiv algorithm picked me up or something. I'm getting a lot of likes for my work. God fucking dammit, this proves that /ic/ really was intentionally taking the piss out of me. I really am a good artist. I feel like I'm shadow banned or something, or the "we hate good artists" actually exists.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 04:53:34 2020 No.4690505 File: 328 KB, 1034x1422, Screenshot_20200701-165029_Facetune 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4689542 I think her face is a little long. I tried face tuning it.

Anonymous Wed Jul 1 05:04:11 2020 No.4690520
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Quit my shitty job i had after saving some money to learn art full time. I don't really have a passion for art, in fact i don't really care for it at all. I've only decided to do this because i've drawn all my life and it's the closest thing i have to a skill. I figured if i didn't like it now, I'll find some enjoyment with as i learn. Now it's been 2 years. While i have gotten better(still not great), i still don't enjoy the process of creating art. I still don't get any emotional feeling when i look at others art. I feel like i wasted my time honesty. Don't really regret it tho. If I didn't try to do this, i would still probably be working another shitty entry level job. I mean im still in that position, but know i have mediocre drawing skills.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 05:06:14 2020 No.4690524 >>4690505 It's "better, but I don't think you're doing that anon any favors by trying to fix this image in some kind of minimal way. It's fundamentally broken and there's nothing anon can do to change that short of going back to the fundamentals.

Anonymous Wed Jul 1 05:19:50 2020 No.4690546

>>4690520
maybe you're like me, and you feel like visual art is just too vapid and thematically limited by itself. you could try writing some short stories and turning them into comics. maybe that will allow you to feel like there's a point to what you're doing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 06:15:49 2020 No.4690609 File: 262 KB, 696x635, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >be muhstylefag >style isn't even good also my hand hurts

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 08:43:19 2020 No.4690841 >>4690007 pyw

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 09:18:36 2020 No.4690889 File: 187 KB, 549x600, 146346477546.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >hate drawing porn >love animating porn >animating takes 10x time

Anonymous Wed Jul 1 11:10:05 2020 No.4691091

yesterday i set up a fresh account on Twitter and pivix to draw and learn how to gitgud on a consistent basis and im scared i wont be able to gitgud and give up like a child, im running out of ways to live a fulfilling life and art is my last chance to find meaning. i also wanna draw fun stuff for anons and have a good time, because it feels wholesome to contribute to something i enjoy like the occasional co thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 12:33:52 2020 No.4691227 >>4690149 Some pretty big porn artists follow me for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 13:08:40 2020 No.4691270 >Discord raises $100 million to move beyond gaming Ah yes, and so it begins...I've seen this happen time and time again. The rise and the fall of discord. The greedy investors. The change in management. The inevitable buyout.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 15:12:37 2020 No.4691633 >>4689022 This shit happens anytime I post an ensemble pic of multiple characters. Everyone will complain how some other random character they like is not there more than literally anything else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 17:36:27 2020 No.4692029 File: 97 KB, 640x640, varusteleka.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >like to draw >hate how boring learning is there are times where learning is fun but those moments are rare for me

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 22:37:21 2020 No.4692519 >>4680446 everyone call me i'm a schizo only few people understanding me hard to make decision for communicate only thing i good at is work hard so nerd can't share interest living as INTJ is both gift and curse sametime

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 23:07:47 2020 No.4692560 >>4687723 came to this thread just to vent but started reading posts for some reason. i'm glad i got to read this. hope things get better for you, boxman.

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