/beg/ - Draw Cute Hats Edition

[Anonymous No.4587085]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make YOURSELF feel proud.

previous >>4584344

READ THE STICKY if you're new or need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

[Anonymous No.4587524]

am i doing okay?

[Anonymous No.4587528]

>>4587524

[Anonymous No.4589600]

I'm going to /asg/, I'll be back once I figure out how to get soul back.

[Anonymous No.4589611]

>>4587524
Focus on drawing the torso bean for now. You're messing up the primary forms.

[Anonymous No.4589993]

mapping out facial features in perspective is fucking killing me

[Anonymous No.4590017]

criticism pls

[Anonymous No.4590018]

>>4589993
stop chicken scratching.

[Anonymous No.4590020]

>>4590018
I wish it was, what you're seeing is a million not-properly-erased attempts at mapping this shit

[Anonymous No.4590057]

>>4590017
Reference pic?
Eyes are nice but way too wide, nose too long and mouth is also nice but the nose messed up the placement

[Anonymous No.4590107]

Which of these is closer to the Vilppu method?

[Anonymous No.4590116]

>>4590107
While 2 is closer to looking better, the transitions (black) are nebulous and it directly copies the contours; something that's a big no-no in Vilppu figure drawing.
1 is a lot less good-looking, but and the transitions are more like a stick figure than what I think Vilppu is talking about (pictured here), but it doesn't break that rule.

[Anonymous No.4590333]

crit me

[Anonymous No.4590402]

Anyone have a good tutorial or tips for shoulders? I tried following Bridgman but it absolutely leaves me clueless when finally drawing from reference. I'm trying to leave the floating head land bit by bit.

[Anonymous No.4590424]

>>4587085
im making a /pol/ related comic. this is my sketch so far. any thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4590428]

>>4590424
fuck im retarded

[Anonymous No.4590602]

>>4590107
Neither are following it. You need to be drawing "side-to-side". When you draw one side of the form, draw the other side as symmetrically as possible. Use overlaps, and fit "units" of forms together. With time you'll be able to put in more anatomy into your spherical forms, but for now stick with drawing very spherical mannequins

[Anonymous No.4590638]

>>4590602
Doesn't that cause a Snowman effect?

[Anonymous No.4590645]

>>4590638
Yeah, at first. When you put in anatomy that won't happen anymore. The point first is to learn to draw solid form

[Anonymous No.4590650]

Yo guys. Do I really need to know all the 650 muscles in the body to draw animu or just the most important for each part of the body?

[Anonymous No.4590654]

>>4590402
Any idea on how I can improve this? The shoulder is my focus but even the smallest out of place thing that can be improved would be great.

[Anonymous No.4590658]

>>4590650
absolutely not
more info here >>4584758

[Anonymous No.4590659]

>>4590650
Do anatomy for sculptors and just learn the forms and how they stretch and compress with movement. You don't need to know medical grade anatomy unless you're doing a sports/fighting manga, gory horror, or something about doctors.

[Anonymous No.4590727]

study. tried to focus more on line weight, came out kinda shit but feels like i learned a lot.

[Anonymous No.4590728]

>>4590727
ref

[Anonymous No.4590734]

>>4590727
I don't blame you for not being able to see the forms of the body, the photo doesn't reveal too much of that. But at least work a little harder at the limbs. The limbs on the beetle look like floppy noodles. Use more simpler lines: CSI.

[Anonymous No.4590812]

[Anonymous No.4590860]

>tfw when watching the beautiful fanart of your waifu and knowing you'll never be able to do the same

[Anonymous No.4590866]

>>4590760

[bored No.4590876]

>>4590333
nice make the right leg a little bigger

>>4590428
hot

>>4590654
good study

>>4590727
cute

>>4590812
try drawing more consistently as in do a few sketches of the lower body and upper body not just random segments trust me it helps. even better would be drawing a full body every time.

[Anonymous No.4590939]

>>4590333
It is fun design but I concerned by his ability to move legs and walk.

[Anonymous No.4590940]

What's the next step anon's? Where do I go from here

[Anonymous No.4590944]

What's the next step anon's? Where do I go from here

[Anonymous No.4590950]

>>4590944
Where do you want to go?

[Anonymous No.4590960]

This is my limit.

[Anonymous No.4590961]

>>4590939
Construction and gesture drawing.
Torso and neck are really wonky here

[Anonymous No.4590964]

>>4590950

[Anonymous No.4590971]

>>4590960
Getting to 'decent coomer' level that's for sure. Is she about to fall?

[Anonymous No.4590976]

>>4590944
Get rid of symbol drawing. Draw shit upside down and draw what you see, use visual measuring and start with the angles and shapes and be very careful and vigilant. Then turn them into forms. Learn about proportion and 3d forms. Learn to stop relying on lines and show edges with tones instead.

You have a good eye for value for a beginner but you need to train that more too. Keep up the good work.

[Anonymous No.4590981]

>>4590960
Not /beg/

[Anonymous No.4590984]

>>4590944
How do you shade like that?

[Anonymous No.4590997]

>>4590971
I don't see that, what should i do to make her not looking like she's falling?

>>4590981
I don't know who i am anymore. I just put lot of time and effort to make this draw look ''decent?''

[Anonymous No.4591007]

Is this how I'm meant to do figures in perspective?
>Put the figure in boxes in a simple perspective
>rotate the boxes
>put the figure back inside it.

[Anonymous No.4591014]

[Anonymous No.4591022]

Do you guys like it I drew it using Loomis guide

[Anonymous No.4591032]

I can copy stuff okayish. What do I do from here?

[Anonymous No.4591033]

Where did i go wrong /beg/

[Anonymous No.4591039]

Why does this thread even exist if people only post images and get no attention? The only pics that get attention here are pics drawn by non /beg/s

[Anonymous No.4591045]

>>4591039
Most pictures posted here get replies you blind retard.

[Anonymous No.4591074]

>>4590650
Yes, and all the bones also if you want to draw anime girls, ignore all the people who said you shouldn’t they’re just doing it to watch you fail and laugh at you failing, fucking sick bastards.

[Anonymous No.4591077]

I still can't center the head, and the collarbones are still sort of floating in the void, but I've got some idea how the shoulder girdle works now. But arms and especially hands are a disaster. I have no idea how to construct or reference them. Any tutorials would be welcome, I've looked at a few at Youtube and panda but couldn't draw a decent-looking hand with them.

I've been slacking and turd polishing too much, and that's just not going to cut it for hands. It's probably time to go down hard on fundamentals.

>>4590960
I'd be pretty damn glad if I could get to that level, time and effort or no. Great work on the leotard.

[Anonymous No.4591080]

>>4590944
>you actually drew every single hair
http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/2008/04/hair-ribbon-secret.html

[Anonymous No.4591082]

>>4590960
fappable

[Anonymous No.4591087]

i'm starting to think I might just hate drawing and it's something I tried to force myself to do because i wanted to be good at it and I should just give up

[Anonymous No.4591090]

>>4591087
you are free to do whatever you want

[Anonymous No.4591097]

How do I into drawing eyes, noses and lips? When does drawing heads become intuitive?

[Anonymous No.4591098]

>>4591077
make her neck less massive. For the hands study anatomy, some poses and then go for simple shapes.

[Anonymous No.4591099]

>>4591033
2b more like 2old

[Anonymous No.4591101]

>>4591087
Not /beg/

[Anonymous No.4591103]

>>4591097

[Anonymous No.4591111]

>>4591087
Hey man, I hate drawing too, but I also want to be good at it so I'm forcing myself. I quit once many years ago because people told me "if you don't think it's fun you should quit" and I strongly regret that now. I'm in for the long haul this time, even if I'm still /beg/ when I'm 80. So, at the very least, you're not alone.

[Anonymous No.4591112]

>>4591097
Learn the proportions.

[Anonymous No.4591117]

Search google for techniques.
THings like "mouths have corners" and "lips are tubes".
As with any other body part, imagine it in 3D in your head as you draw.

[Anonymous No.4591127]

I've only ever really done digital art but I want to get serious about practicing and getting better. Should I get a mechanical pencil or regular ones? I'm not really sure about the difference and the sticky doesn't recommend either way

[Anonymous No.4591136]

>>4591127
If you get a regular set you can expose more of the lead so you can draw with the side. If you get a mechanical pencil, I'd actually recommend getting a lead holder, the graphite sticks are expensive (it's like $10 on the cheap and you only get one type of lead, because of this a full set is expensive as hell) but you could get away with HB, and then a couple on the harder and softer side.

[Anonymous No.4591145]

>>4591111
I just can't get myself to draw. Same with everything really, I just can't make myself do things that I want to do so I'm fucked because drawing requires a ton of practice

[Anonymous No.4591146]

>>4591136
Neat, thanks anon! I appreciate it

[Anonymous No.4591154]

Is copying using the grid method a good way to learn?

[Anonymous No.4591169]

>>4591145
Well, sucks to be you then.
Try setting an extremely easy goal, like 10 minutes a day, and then increase it by 5 minutes each time you're able to do that consistently.

[Anonymous No.4591170]

>>4587524
Upper part looks allright. You're still learning anatomy, so when using photo reference like this, think about mapping bones/muscles you already know on the body of the reference. In this particular one look at the lower part of torso, tummy has its own form and it's not just flat plane.

>>4589993
keep it up anon. It's hard in the beginning. speed comes with knowledge

>>4590017
look up riley method head, it shows planes of the face well and how you can build it. Also, when drawing from reference, check proportions. Proportions are your biggest problem right now.

>>4590107
exaggerate the lines more. Remember that point of gesture is to convey the energy of motion rather than being anatomically accurate.

>>4590402
anon, check out Michael Hampton and his tutorials. His way of building muscles on the skeleton is very simple and easy to learn. If you can grab your hands on his anatomy tutorial series, do it.
>>4590727
good job anon, looks good. go for more insects. Insects are the perfect combination of organic and hardsurface shapes. and try to build them with simple forms, like 3d modelling.
>>4590944
here are few mistakes I can see right away
>drawing every strand of hair
>symbols for eyes
>little understanding of facial forms
>wrong proportions
as I told anon above, look up rileys method for shading, but first you need to learn how to keep everything in the same line. In this piece mouth is in the wrong place, too left and it just ruins the structure of the face. Keep it up anon, don't get discouraged

>>4590960
this is pretty good anon. I'd start learning more advanced stuff at this point, like shape design, rendering and composition
>>4591007
Yes anon, its very hard but you'll slowly get there. even I have troubles doing it. remember, when doing this method, you have to keep everything as simple as possible in the beginning, so torso should be more of a box, arms just cilinders etc.

[Anonymous No.4591172]

I tried doing perspective but it didn't work out, could somebody please give me some critique?

[Anonymous No.4591185]

>>4591170
cont.
>>4591032
Do more copies if you do it for fun, or do some studies if you're serious about it. always compare stuff you drew with the reference. I can clearly see quite a few mistakes in this piece which can be fixed just by comparing it to reference and redoing it better.
>>4591033
upshot always makes characters incredibly ugly anon. It's just the way it is, quite hard to pull it off. second of all, the reason she looks so old is because you made those obicularis oris(dont remember what its called) lines way too big and way too sharp, making it look like wrinkles.
/ic/ crabs hate istebrak but she talks the way it is without sugarcoating. https://youtu.be/upSS25kBZn8 watch this

[Anonymous No.4591193]

>>4591154
It's a great way to train your eye to see shape and angles better. But don't rely on it forever. Once you get good at it you need to take away the grid and work without it.

[Anonymous No.4591202]

>>4591172
it very demanding to process this kind of shit
try to rotate something simple not complex organic shape.

and look at this or any other to get a gist of what is going on.
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/female-anatomy-body-base-304b13d644de4b63acae0e26dd64fd75

[Anonymous No.4591203]

>>4590984
take toilet paper and rub the graphite

[Anonymous No.4591213]

>>4591170
hey anon I'm >>4590944
You got any study material, especially on hair and facial forms? I'm also really struggling with symbolism for the eyes, idk how to approach it

[Anonymous No.4591264]

>>4591213
If you can get your hands of Watts Atelier Online Program its the best resource you can have. Jeff is kinda annoying to listen to but he teaches incredibly valuable lessons
As for hair, there are quite a few tutorials on that which all boils down to, first do a general big shape of the hair, then shade the form as you would a box for example, think about light source, then you start adding smaller strand and blending. Hair always has to be worked from big to small for it to look good

[Anonymous No.4591287]

I did the upside down reference thing.
Enjoy my retarded Sue Lyon.

Tips for hair would be appreciated. I hurried through it with a big pen. Still not sure how to visualize it in my mind, though I did try breaking down her hair into ribbons.

[Anonymous No.4591293]

Where do I go from here? I don't know what's the next step

[Anonymous No.4591294]

>>4591293
Stop drawing ugly lips for one

[Anonymous No.4591305]

>>4591294
explain please

[Anonymous No.4591312]

>>4591203
Are you trolling or serious?

[Anonymous No.4591318]

>>4591312
Yes

[Anonymous No.4591320]

>>4591312
im not joking, saw somewhere on youtube to use napkins, so I grabbed the next best thing, try it out

[Anonymous No.4591332]

>>4590333

[Anonymous No.4591369]

do you like this one i didnt use loomis this time

[Anonymous No.4591385]

Does my peen has cute feet?

[Anonymous No.4591400]

>>4590866
very single technique, when in doubt ask someone if you can skip something

[Anonymous No.4591406]

Does the beginning sticky actually work?

[Anonymous No.4591407]

>>4591406
No

[Anonymous No.4591410]

>>4591406
no, everyone who made it learned through grinding drawing without any additional knowledge support

[Anonymous No.4591418]

>>4591410
the same way a mathematician learns math through grinding numbers
or a medic by dissecting people on the streets
etc etc
who needs prior knowledge anyway

[Anonymous No.4591453]

>>4591305
You're symbol drawing lips, don't mistake lipstick as a hard edge. Try to imagine what the shape of the lips would look like in actuality and draw that. Look into the Asaro head to understand the planes, and look into lip construction. Some of my older work hopefully gets the point across. I should probably do another page of this.

[Anonymous No.4591455]

Any good boobs, and hands drawing guide ?

[Anonymous No.4591459]

>>4591455

I don't know where this falls, and the drawing is obviously not finished yet, but this is clearly not /beg/ tier.

[Anonymous No.4591462]

>>4591455
imagine books as air balloons with water filled, not put them on your chest and let gravity do it's work. for small breasts is pretty much what you did there, half a double pyramid going out of chest but with round points

[Anonymous No.4591467]

[Anonymous No.4591471]

Not happy with the shading on this. It looked better as line art.

[Anonymous No.4591473]

>>4591471
Thumbnail looks good, just gotta measure more.

[Anonymous No.4591504]

>>4591467
That bulge OwO

[Anonymous No.4591510]

>>4591473
Measure what specifically? I think that the nose is too narrow, and I did the lips relative to the nose so the mouth looks too small.

Is it worth trying to fix this or should I move on to something else?

[Anonymous No.4591583]

>>4590960
Mah.. my pp felt funny.

[Anonymous No.4591608]

thats a really weird pose you choose, and did u sketchetd the body before adding the clothes? (which look nice, suspiciously nice along with the hair)
your linework is good, try practicing more proportions.

[Anonymous No.4591620]

>>4591455
I like sinix' hand drawing guide

[Anonymous No.4591627]

>>4591077
fug >>4591608

[Anonymous No.4591632]

how do I shade on digital bros

[Anonymous No.4591651]

Am I doing this right? Decided to try doing gesture drawing and doing speed drawing, after being told that I was doing it wrong. But like, these feel very wrong anatomy wise, but at the same time, I'm only trying to get the absolute basics of a figure down, right?

[Anonymous No.4591660]

Will I improve if I spend a lot of time drawing from reference and not much else? I understand the basics of perspective etc, I just don't like grinding that stuff

[Anonymous No.4591667]

>>4591660
as an absolute beg, I'm going to say yes. I think you can only gain from drawing from life and reference. Because then you don't learn to draw from what you "think" something would look like, you'd learn to draw stuff you've actually seen in other references. If that makes sense.

[Anonymous No.4591668]

>>4591632
two basic ways, color picking with lower opacity after you have the colors laid down or blending colors with blend tool, or a mix of both. i recommend starting with grayscale until you learn how value works, then monochrome to learn saturation then very limited color palette to learn about how colors interact with each other through light

[Anonymous No.4591681]

Some figure drawings I did today

[Anonymous No.4591688]

>>4591660
Yes, even pro artists need to reference frequently to draw more accurately and capture more detail, drawing without reference is decent practice, but for the most part, beginners should be using reference often

[Anonymous No.4591693]

>>4591462
>>4591620
Thanks pals. Sinix's hands look exactly like his real hands.

[Anonymous No.4591706]

I remember i used to use a website for drawing gesture. Random image, sets a timer. Any ideas?

[Anonymous No.4591710]

>>4591706
https://quickposes.com/en/tutorials

I was doing some gesture stuff earlier and posted it in this thread a few posts up, so I still had it open.

[Anonymous No.4591718]

>>4591710
amazing, thanks king

[Anonymous No.4591729]

>>4591718
Yeh, no prob. Get some learning and practicing done.

[Anonymous No.4591750]

>>4591467
+ loomis

[Anonymous No.4591767]

Some attempts, is fun. With knowledge of the planes it seems pretty easy to add blocks of light with minimal reference. Hair was referenced loosely since I couldn't find a good reference. I guess that's something to start practicing next.

[Anonymous No.4591768]

So I'm learning figure drawing and the whole "average body is 7 heads, heroic is 8" thing. But how does it work to convey shorter people? I try to stick to that when it comes to drawing 6'0 ft/185 cm females. But I'm currently trying to sketch out a 5 foot/150 cm male. How do I find a guide to properly proportion that?

[Anonymous No.4591772]

>>4591172
this >>4591202

[Anonymous No.4591778]

>>4591768
the pelvis will almost always be in the middle of the entire body, same for hands but a bit lower.
now, halfway from pelvis to neck will be the chest and halfway from pelvis to feet will be the knee, but very slightly lower
exceptions are stylized drawings like chibi, if in doubts measure a body with halves and halves of those halves of the body

[Anonymous No.4591787]

>>4591185
>or do some studies if you're serious about it.
What I'm doing is that I'm trying to practice contruction (Loomis heads, etc) by copying. Is that the correct way to learn anime? I apologize if this has an obvious answer.

[Anonymous No.4591790]

>>4591787
understand that what you're drawing isnt a circle but a sphere and youll be good

[Anonymous No.4591795]

i need to watch videos on perspective, and everything else

[Anonymous No.4591797]

>>4591790
I think I somewhat understand that concept, I'll continue to practice my Loomis heads and such. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4591799]

>>4591778
Okay, I see what you mean, thank you anon. I'll still try to find how many heads tall the average 5 foot male is, but that helps immensely knowing how to break each part down.

[Anonymous No.4591800]

>>4591033
>wojak nose
kek

[Anonymous No.4591819]

>>4591332
>warframe
nice

[Anonymous No.4591826]

[Anonymous No.4591829]

[Anonymous No.4591832]

[Anonymous No.4591837]

Absolute beg here. Did a bit of drawing on the right side and have now begun on fun with a pencil and it's really boring. Any better resources i should use or should i just do as loomis tells me and draw some spheres? Since I'm bad should i maybe just hold off on books and just copy copy way more?

>>4590727
good beetle anon

[Anonymous No.4591844]

how do i stop drawing symbols on faces anon...

[Anonymous No.4591851]

>>4591844
loomis
>>4591837
how would copying be any different from drawing spheres?

[Anonymous No.4591861]

>>4591651
It is not terrible Anon th e fomrs are starting to come out ok but you are chickem scratching a lot, try to make it few and more deliberate lines. Try to focus planning it out and to learn using less lines if you can.

[Anonymous No.4591871]

>>4591851
I was thinking it i might learn a bit of all the fundamentals from copying. I'm just afraid of doing one of the two for a week and then finding out it hasn't helped.

[Anonymous No.4591875]

Please help me improve senpai

[Anonymous No.4591880]

>>4591871
apply loomis to anime face, don't blindly copy

[Anonymous No.4591895]

>>4591750
your version looks more correct, but less dynamic

[Anonymous No.4591898]

>>4591875

[Anonymous No.4591899]

>>4591898
UwU

[Anonymous No.4591926]

>>4591895
Without changing the pose or camera placement there isn't much to make the pose less awkward, breaking bones of the arms or over elongating the neck aren't great ways to make something dynamic.

[Anonymous No.4591955]

>>4591608
Thank you, I see what's wrong with this now. I did sketch the body before drawing the skirt, but it was rough and poor. This was another 'it's just a 3/4 standing pose, I can wing it without references' attempt, and turns out I still can't wing it.

Clothes and hair were drawn by marking roughly where they should be, making some lines around the outlines, and deleting them if they didn't look good. I don't know if this is a good method and I'll start drawing better curves with practice, or if I should do something more deliberate.

[Anonymous No.4591957]

Anything to keep in mind while copying images?

[Anonymous No.4591960]

>>4591957
loomis

[Anonymous No.4591975]

>>4591957
feel the form

[Anonymous No.4591982]

>>4591960
>>4591975
would you mind elaborating?

[Anonymous No.4591986]

>>4591982
this questions means you haven't read and gone through loomis fun with a pencil so do that instead of wasting time with copying

[Anonymous No.4591990]

>>4591033
Grandma NOOOO you're too old to cosplay.

[Anonymous No.4591991]

>>4591982
this question means you haven't read and gone through vilppu drawing manual so do that instead of wasting time with loomis

[Anonymous No.4591996]

>>4591982
Loomis: People are circles. You can draw any person in any position if you know how to draw their head-circle, torso-circle, hips-circle and limbs-circles.
Feel the form: People are balloon animals. You can draw any person in any position if you know how to draw their head-balloon, torso-balloon, hips-balloon and limbs-balloons.

The idea is breaking things into the simple shapes.

[Anonymous No.4592000]

[Anonymous No.4592009]

>>4592000


Thats a cute dinosaur in a sweater

[Anonymous No.4592017]

>>4591986
>>4591991
So instead of wasting my time copying I should be wasting my time doing loomis instead of doing Vilppu?
>>4591996
Thanks that makes sense

[Anonymous No.4592065]

alright boys, would you say this looks muddy?

[Anonymous No.4592066]

>>4592065
No

[Anonymous No.4592069]

>>4591033

[Anonymous No.4592073]

>>4591033
>it's maam

[Anonymous No.4592101]

>>4592065
It looks doughy
Are you trying for realism, or not? If you are, you need to bring in some more values to make it look believable.

[Anonymous No.4592106]

>>4592000
Cute Cute!!

[Anonymous No.4592107]

There's just something relaxing about polishing turds.

[Anonymous No.4592117]

[Anonymous No.4592121]

>>4591875

[Anonymous No.4592124]

what do you think

[Anonymous No.4592127]

>>4592069
Thanks for helping me fix ma'am. I wasn't having enough fun with the pencil

[Anonymous No.4592136]

I wish I'd never found out this
https://www.deviantart.com/sunny3257/gallery/61470239/commission-illust

[Anonymous No.4592140]

>>4592136
fuck he renders better than drawgen

[Anonymous No.4592142]

>>4591800

[Anonymous No.4592143]

>>4592124
It's fine, you should move on from bust shots 3/4 faces.

[Anonymous No.4592150]

>>4592143
i wanna solidify face style cause people told me that they are ugly and also that they are the most important in a drawing

[Anonymous No.4592158]

>>4592136
This doesn't have anything to do with /beg/

[Anonymous No.4592163]

>>4592150
Your faces are fine, the initial criticisms such as your faces having too many lines etc. are mostly fixed now.
Just move on to more dynamic poses already.

[Anonymous No.4592164]

>>4592101
Thanks, that makes sense

[Anonymous No.4592179]

Random anime

[Anonymous No.4592193]

>>4592179
ngl this is pretty autistic

[Anonymous No.4592205]

>>4592193
ngl this is pretty schizo have sex inceel dilate

[Anonymous No.4592207]

>>4592179
erase the first panel and this would be nice looking

[Anonymous No.4592212]

Is this how I properly do studies? Right now I'm mostly trying to understand center of gravity.

[Anonymous No.4592244]

[Anonymous No.4592256]

>>4590727
abit more contrast on your values would go along way but I like it

[Anonymous No.4592261]

Kinda looks like a mask

[Anonymous No.4592262]

Think this hair is the second time in my life I've used a brush or brush tool. Very messy.Would appreciate critique; my goal is to be good enough to get (you's) in the drawthread on /v/

[Anonymous No.4592270]

>>4591955
Try sketching like this, or in paper.
for now draw legs, head or bust separately, if you want to do full body then do gesture.

[Anonymous No.4592278]

>>4590727
have you experimented with gradient maps in photoshop? it is a nice way to reveal where your values need adjusting compared to the reference

[Anonymous No.4592285]

>>4592121
有り難う

[Anonymous No.4592291]

>>4592285
>有り難う
rare

[Anonymous No.4592383]

>>4592205
Yikes

[Anonymous No.4592393]

>>4592117
Nice gesture, work in your lines.

[Anonymous No.4592406]

After doing some gesture drawing practicing earlier, I decided to sketch out a character of mine. It's very amateur-ish, it sucks, I know. I showed my friend, and he says that the proportions are wrong, and that this characters arms and legs are too short. And they say that about my other drawings where I started to focus on proportions. I've measured out my sketches with a ruler to make sure they're X heads tall, I don't want to say they're wrong but I can't help but feel like they're wrong about this specific issue. I wouldn't be annoyed if they pointed out other mistakes/issues, but this one feels like a stretch. So I suppose I'm asking about advice on proportions specifically, not an overall "how's this?".

[Anonymous No.4592409]

>>4592406
I do also want to note that this character is a 5 foot male, so they do look a little androgynous for a reason.

[Anonymous No.4592422]

>>4592406
i measured by putting 2 fingers on the screen and moving down
head
under breast
crotch but not the bottom
this is wrong
it should be head
the middle of ribs
belly button (perpendicular to center of arms)
the button of the crotch

alternatively if you are doing the animu

>>4592393
they tend to do it like this
head
boob
crotch

so you are close to anime anatomy

[Anonymous No.4592432]

>>4592422
Hmmm, I suppose I need to retry then. I don't want to do animu anatomy. But what's this about 2 fingers on the screen?

[Anonymous No.4592437]

>>4592432
i just did that to eye your heads quicky
its not a suggested way to measure

[Anonymous No.4592454]

>>4591772
Wow thank you

[Anonymous No.4592461]

>>4592406
I'm a lowly beg shitter. There is an artbook I use quite often called How to Draw Shota, and here is a page from that artbook on male proportions

[Anonymous No.4592463]

[Anonymous No.4592472]

>>4592461
that page is wrong though
head
below center of ribs (wrong)
even further below belly button (extra wrong)
half way to his knees
his arm center is also not in an arc with belly button since his belly button is wrong
this is actually worse anatomy than the pic he himself drew, which has arms arced with belly button. both do legs more or less right

[Anonymous No.4592478]

>>4591772
>>4592454
One more thing don't boxes further away get shorter and things closer get bigger?
The one on the left.
That's what I was doing at the start. Is that not how it works?
Should I be doing the one of the right?

[Anonymous No.4592480]

>>4592461
Thanks anon, I'll see what I can get from that page and how I can apply it. I'm trying to avoid anime anatomy though haha. He's not a shota though, he's just a short ass dude haha.

[Anonymous No.4592484]

Anyone trying to learn on a tablet?
What program are you using to draw in?

Is it a good idea to even try learning to draw with a tablet or should I learn on paper?
I already have a drawing tablet I got as a gift, if I wanted to try on paper I'd have to actually go and buy a sketchbook and pencils and shit.

[Anonymous No.4592489]

>>4592484
You can use anything to draw
Newsprint paper is a thing to use for drawings you will throw out

[Anonymous No.4592510]

>>4592484
I learned to draw on a tablet with paint tool sai
It was relatively painless but im still learning much

[Anonymous No.4592513]

[Anonymous No.4592516]

>>4592484
Yes.
Originally I used paint.net because I use that for sprite art. Don't do that. Very bad idea.
Then I tried one of the random programs from the /v/ drawthread mega, Sai, seems alright.
I'm used to drawing on paper with a pen, so I find adjusting to digital somewhat hard.
Gimp is also highly rec'd but I find its ui annoying.

Try the free shit from the mega on /v/'s drawthread, gimp, hell just draw on garyc if you feel like it. Any of those is drawing. Drawing is inherently superior to thinking about drawing.
I used to draw on my bus tickets on the way home from work before corona. I'm not very good. But I'm probably slightly less not very good than I'd be if I didn't do that.

[Anonymous No.4592522]

>>4592478
yes they do.
yeah, thats how it works, but as anon said, try drawing simple shapes for now.

[Anonymous No.4592526]

>>4591706
Sketchdaily

[Anonymous No.4592594]

I need critique specifically on the values. I look at this piece and can't help but feel there is something very wrong about it - and I'm guessing it is the values, since the proportions seem in place and also the head structure.
If you've the eye for any inconsistencies however, I'd appreciate you point them out.

[Anonymous No.4592601]

>>4592594
2 things
one how the fuck is this beg tier
2 one of the eyes looks fucked

[Anonymous No.4592606]

>>4592406
hmmmmmmm

[Anonymous No.4592608]

>>4592594
Another thing: portrait painting anons, how do you organize your values on the portrait? I feel like I've rendered details before getting a solid grasp for the whole thing and this is fucking me right now.
And how do you finish a piece? And I mean the refining part - how do you know which edges are supposed to be blended and which to be kept?

[Anonymous No.4592612]

>>4592601
/beg/ tier means not having mastered all your fundamentals. You don't graduate to /int/ until then.

[Anonymous No.4592617]

>>4592601
Yeah, the eyes are bugging me the wrong way, but I intend to work on them later on. rn it's the whole thing that's bugging me.
Also, I feel I'd just be ignored if I posted anywhere else for a critique.

[Anonymous No.4592620]

>>4592612
>>4590960
then why the fuck was this said to be not beg
its worse than what he posted even ignoring the 'anime anatomy is a joke' aspect. look at the size of her hands.
its weird for people posting art that good to be in the place for beginners.

[Anonymous No.4592622]

>>4592606
So I guess his head is too big for his body? Because I think that's the issue I have with drawing this character, feeling that way about other sketches of him. I'm guess just not good at depicting shorter characters. He's meant to be short as fuck, but an adult none the less.

[Anonymous No.4592626]

>>4592622
Being short doesn't change the basic skeletal structure unless he's short because of a legit midgitism issue.

[Anonymous No.4592627]

>>4592620
Because the "not beg" guy doesn't like anyone better than him. Just ignore his dumb ass.

[Anonymous No.4592634]

>>4592622
you can make short people work, see dwarves. but the problem is getting a good design alongside proportions.

[Anonymous No.4592635]

>>4592620
I'm flattered you think my work is good, but I still feel I can not push myself to create a finished piece. Like the other anon mentioned - I don't feel like I have a solid grasp on all the fundamentals.
I've seen some discussions rolling around /ic/ about what's /beg/ and what's /int/, but in the end, none of that matters - it's wasting breath. I feel like the effort put into creating these silly rationalizations should just be channeled into studying and helping eachother grow.

[Anonymous No.4592640]

Creates unrealistic standards for actual beginners when they see 'beginners' posting shit like that and they'll just think like 'oh if he's a beginner, he can't have been doing it for long, yet he's already that good' then compare themselves.
If your art is better than every single other pic posted in beg put together, you shouldn't be here

[Anonymous No.4592647]

>>4592640
If it'll help you (and others), I've been drawing very inconsistently for 4-5 years as a hobby. I haven't started taking drawing seriously until this whole corona quarantine thing. I have to say however, that I have progressed in 6 months of social isolation the same amount that the other 4 years together amount for. It's all about the quality of your study and dedication.

[Anonymous No.4592652]

>>4592647
comparatively speaking, of course.

[Anonymous No.4592655]

>>4592626
Nah, he's just short, around 5'2. I did draw a loomis skeleton underneath when I did this sketch and it looked fine I thought. Maybe I'll try again with the proportions by doing another standing sketch. Maybe as well, try to reduce the size of his head, or make his body bigger?
>>4592634
A good design? What do you mean by that?

[Anonymous No.4592657]

Any way to emulate ms paint's brushes on photoshop?

>inb4 paint.net

no senpai, I tried that program and didn't like it

[Anonymous No.4592658]

>>4592406
5 foot my fucking ass. Look like a midget. Very unappealing art style.

[Anonymous No.4592662]

>>4592647
corona is less than 6 months old, what you talking about 6 months
And point is you should not be here. That is not beginner art. This thread is for people who are new, bad, beginners, not clear intermediates asking how to touch up an otherwise finished and colored picture.

[Anonymous No.4592665]

>>4592594
if you want to check values swap it to a greyscale
if you want to make it pop more you could add rim lighting and eye reflection

[Anonymous No.4592668]

>>4592662
sorry, I meant to say the months of social isolation and the period of vacation from university summed, which happen to be 6 months locked bored at home.
and if you don't think I should be here, then where should I go for quality critique?

[Anonymous No.4592669]

>>4592658
Well, I always pictured him being on the way smaller side. It's also a good way for me to practice heightssince I don't want to just draw 6'4 tall females all the time. Obviously I need the practice. Art style is kind irrelevant for me at this point in time though. Just as long as I don't go for animu artstyle.

[Anonymous No.4592671]

>>4592668
To the intermediate thread, why do you think I said you are intermediate

[Anonymous No.4592677]

>>4592640
if you get salty instead of motivated when you like someone's work you are NGMI anyway

[Anonymous No.4592680]

>>4592655
by good design look first character on pic, it's 4 head tall but works, same happens with rpg dwarves, or chibi. you'll need to play around with shapes until you get something that is sweet to the eyes

[Anonymous No.4592685]

>>4592640
there no standard and nothing unrealistic about things posted here. You use buzzwords inappropriately.
Problem is feel not skill disparity.Because this disparity will always exist.

[Anonymous No.4592688]

>>4592685
Yes there is, the word beginner exists for a reason. Stupid statement.

[Anonymous No.4592691]

>>4592680
Hmm, I think I get what you're saying. So would you say the design would lend itself better to a taller character? Like I had this commissioned a bit ago, and he's depicted at a not so short size. But that's something I didn't concider, was that his shortness just didn't work with his design.

[Anonymous No.4592700]

>>4592665
I tried this, but I'm so used to seeing this that I can't find the fault there. That's why I need some guidance there. But thanks, anon.

>>4592671
I've scrolled through and found no intermediate thread for critiques.

[Anonymous No.4592704]

>>4592700
oh you right no ones made one.

[Anonymous No.4592707]

did some figure drawing

[Anonymous No.4592712]

>>4592691
maybe. you could also try tweaking it, try to find 5 head characters and see how they are constructed and apply to your character

[Anonymous No.4592716]

>>4592691
Gonna be the one to say it: Doesn't look like a guy at all, not even an androgynous one. That's girlier than most actual girls.

[Anonymous No.4592719]

>>4592688
word mean everything from zero to vague point. no standard for zero skill and where you start to be beginner. so nothing unrealistic.

[Anonymous No.4592721]

>>4592719
I'm just gonna concede because I'm too tired to actually understand what you are trying to say

[Anonymous No.4592722]

>>4592707
C-cunny?!

[Anonymous No.4592730]

How can I tell if my monitor is displaying colors correctly?

[Anonymous No.4592731]

Trying to do perspective

[Anonymous No.4592732]

>>4592712
Okay, I will try tweaking him a bit, regarding height. Because I can draw taller characters fine, imo. Not good, but I'm not doubting my entire ability when I do so.
>>4592716
Oh, I don't mind you saying that, haha. I like his design though. Maybe I might make him a full female?But I do like the male aspect of it.

[Anonymous No.4592736]

[Anonymous No.4592737]

>>4592730
use your phone as reference, unless you're going to print then color calibrator i think is your better bet if you need excellent color accuracy. more often than not you don't need it unless working for some big company

[Anonymous No.4592740]

>>4592731

[Anonymous No.4592742]

>>4592737
ah okay I won't worry about it then, thanks.

[Anonymous No.4592743]

>>4592700
honestly I think your picture is on point for the most part
any further criticism would be about composition or style, but maybe you just fatigued on it from staring too long

[Anonymous No.4592744]

>>4592732
Of him.
Love your husbando and you will draw him better, if you don't even like him enough to let him keep his pee pee, how will you like him enough to keep drawing him?

>>4592669
Why do you hate our lord and savor, anime?

[Anonymous No.4592745]

>>4592731
bro -__-
broo -_____-

[Anonymous No.4592746]

>>4592730
how you can tell others monitor displays color correctly.
hmmm

[Anonymous No.4592747]

>>4592731
No

[Anonymous No.4592749]

>>4592731
I think these on top almost works

[Anonymous No.4592752]

>>4592640
You just have to accept that insecure or attention seeking /int/s are going to post here and ask for advice as if they were /beg/. Yes they do it because they prefer to dwarf /beg/s in the beg thread, than be dwarfed by high tier /int/s in the /int/ thread. Yes it will hurt /beg/ feelings and no one cares; it's a part of the ecosystem of these threads that has formed.

t. /beg/ who takes 8 hours to draw garbage art and gets made fun of and has just accepted it

[Anonymous No.4592753]

Dont want to color it, think it would end up making it look worse

[Anonymous No.4592754]

>>4592740
>>4592745
?

[Anonymous No.4592757]

>>4592740
>>4592745
>>4592747
What is the point of this thread even existing if people just get replies like this

[Anonymous No.4592758]

>>4592757
I mean at least he got replies lol

[Anonymous No.4592760]

>>4592744
He's just fun to draw. I like his pants with the red straps, the shorter bob cut, and not having to draw draw curves and boobs like with my other characters. I don't hate anime, but I'm just trying to avoid drawing in the artstyle. I like the more cartoony, thick lined artstyle.

[Anonymous No.4592763]

>>4592743

Thanks anon :)
To clarify, my goal is achieve a render akin to this, minus the style. My problem is fundamentally being unable to know how to paint edges and more or less judge the values proper. Pushing out of this construction phase into refining phase, you know?

[Anonymous No.4592765]

>>4592752
That guy may very well get told to go back to /beg/ if he posted in /int/.
/int/ is ultimately just a dumb idea for a thread because all it does is create endless shitposting in both threads about what is /int/ and what is /beg/.
Frankly I'm leaning more towards doing away with skill-based threads altogether. /beg/ wasn't always a thing. The only real purpose of /beg/ is for begs to get actual advice without just getting laughed at, but that's quickly becoming a thing of the past it seems.

[Anonymous No.4592767]

>>4592753
it would, don't color if you "color" with graphite before, it will make a disaster

[Anonymous No.4592770]

>>4592740
>>4592745
>>4592747
Could you tell me where I went wrong?

[Anonymous No.4592771]

>>4592758
Everyone who asks for replies gets them, and even most who don't. This whole "why do people never reply in /beg/" thing is just weird.

[Anonymous No.4592773]

>>4592771
>>4592262
I didn't though?

[Anonymous No.4592778]

>>4592757
lets see
>>4592731
anon, are you >>4591172?

[Anonymous No.4592779]

Last thread I was talking about how I’m concerned whether I draw the right way, since I seem to work very non-linearly. Here’s what I mean. I just seem to skip around once I drew the face.

[Anonymous No.4592783]

>>4592765
Basically every thread that isn't /beg/ is an "/int/ thread"
If you are at /int/ level then you should post the content of your drawing in the relevant thread. Is it anime? Go to anime study. Is it alternative? Go to alt. Is it alt and porn? Go to lewd alt thread. Is it traditional? Go to traditional thread. And so on and so on.

/int/ thread is stupid , I agree. But /beg/ is not a stupid idea for a thread. It has a very important purpose. And just because some asshole tells you you are /beg/ doesn't mean anything. There are very talented professional artists that anons on /ic/ accuse of being /beg/ simply because they are bitter crabs.

[Anonymous No.4592784]

>>4592640
Ok I try to put it another way. Did your work create unrealistic standard for my-first-stickman- people or only work by people who a bit better then you do it?

[Anonymous No.4592786]

>>4592784
Bruh I already conceded bruh
Bruh

[Anonymous No.4592787]

>>4592779
u draw how many people draw after a while, not wrong but not the cleanest, so it's up to you if you want to go for line efficiency

[Anonymous No.4592788]

>>4592262
>>4592773
I saw that image 4 hours ago and only now do I realise that she's supposed to be lifting up her skirt. I think there's a point where people just don't give a fuck enough to give feedback anymore.

[Anonymous No.4592789]

>>4592731
>>4592770
Are you the anon that posted something similar on /a/? it's certainly better. but you're climbing too high. at least you have a concept of the change of shapes on with the view, it's not terrible imo the hips on 1 and 2 are the worst parts and the proportions are wonky in general.
You still need to learn the basics of perspective before you even begin doing character drawing. that shit is boring af and so are line exercises but if you actually want to improve they are essential. I'm not telling you to do classic live drawing tho it doesn't hurt but at least learn the basics first.

tl;dr draw 200 cubes

[Anonymous No.4592791]

>>4592262
>>4592788
well, repeating loomis gets tiring after awhile

[Anonymous No.4592793]

>>4592787
>so it's up to you if you want to go for line efficiency
how do I do that? Is it better?

[Anonymous No.4592795]

>>4592278
interesting, i hadnt tried to do this before. ill keep it in mind

[Anonymous No.4592798]

>>4592788
> I think there's a point where people just don't give a fuck enough to give feedback anymore.

Like, I'm too beginner to get advice on the beginner thread, or something? I don't get it. I need to be better to be good enough for people to give advice on how to get better?
All I know is you said everyone gets replies and that's plainly not true.

[Anonymous No.4592801]

[Anonymous No.4592802]

I finished Perspective Made Easy 2 days ago
and started Fun with Pencil
I hope I'm not being memed, these cartoons are tedious as fuck

[Anonymous No.4592805]

>>4592778
Yeah, I am.
Last time I just stretched the image and went for more extreme angles. This time it wasn't that extreme and I didn't stretch it instead tried to draw what the 3d shapes would be like at that angel.

>>4592789
I did study perspective basics, I just have trouble with organic forms. Still I'll try the boxes. Do I draw them in perspective? Or just rotated?

[Anonymous No.4592811]

>>4592763
very nice goal
I think the harsh white overhead lighting is bouncing off the blue under her and combining with her skin to make a purple/pink
not giving much for advice, just learning from you two

[Anonymous No.4592814]

>>4592802
Loomis always feels like a meme for me just because of his
>Eyes center of head
>Halfway up eyebrows (75% of the head)
>Half down nose (25%)
>Same down bottom (0%; directly at the bottom of the cirle)
He tells you to do this, ignoring how it mathematically absolutely always just makes the chin be at the bottom of the circle.
Then you look at his shit. He doesn't do any of this. His chins are below 0%. His eyebrow is usually about 85%. His nose is the only part he does remotely close to how he says to do anything.

[Anonymous No.4592817]

>>4592802
Look these are okay copies but guy, you're supposed to be making your own, not copying andy's

[Anonymous No.4592820]

>>4592814
Eyes center of the SPHERE not the whole head, dumbass

[Anonymous No.4592827]

>>4592811
Oh yeah, the artist in question, Angel Ganev, works a lot on creating light/mood on references before he starts to paint, giving a really aesthethic vibe to the colours. I'm focusing more on getting a realistically rendered portrait that does not sacrifice style entirely in this piece, however - sort of learning what I can do with the traditional brushes.

If you like Angel's work, check out his youtube channel.

[Anonymous No.4592830]

>>4592820
Doesn't make a difference.
This is his very first example of a face facing straight on, directly above where he tells you to go halfway up from the center of the sphere.
He proceed to not go halfway up the center of the sphere then base his entire structure of this by his own dictated rules incorrect placement.
And he does this all the time, on every sphere he makes, throughout the entire thing. Not one time does he follow the rules he writes.

[Anonymous No.4592866]

>>4592830
halfway of sphere is eyebrow and is at the same level of ears
below, eyes, where nose starts and is just below the top of the ear's level
end of the nose is at the same level of bottom of the ears
mouth is just below mouth and at the same level of the jaw joint

[Anonymous No.4592877]

>>4592866
Yea that's right it was eyebrow-hairline
Which in my pic is STILL wrong
Any way you put it it is 50%-75%-25%-0%
And he never obeys this. He is mathetmatically saying to do one thing and doing a different thing in practice regardless of what the components are
In your pic its right though.

[Anonymous No.4592898]

my first effort render done from imagination
had a lot of fun but have trouble motivating myself to draw unless I have a story I wanna tell

[Anonymous No.4592903]

>>4592898
dabing zombie?

[Anonymous No.4592915]

Fucked up the hands and hair, but better than my usual stuff

[Anonymous No.4592917]

>>4592915 ref

[Anonymous No.4592920]

>>4592798
>Like, I'm too beginner to get advice on the beginner thread, or something

Day 1 beginners get criticism all the time. You simply have to post work that you actually tried on. You can't doodle for 5 mins and ask for criticism. Also, you should explain you want criticism so people are more likely to reply to you. If you just post work with tons of things wrong, as beginners almost always do, you can always ask specific questions about where you went wrong or what to study. Yes you may still get ignored but you get what you pay for: free advice = luck based advice.

[Anonymous No.4592922]

>>4592898
dabbing over the grave of her rival, I figured the shovel was abit too much

[Anonymous No.4592929]

>>4592877
He going 75% around the sphere so when you look at the hair line straight on, its higher because it is further back in space

[Anonymous No.4592933]

>>4592922
go easier on the shading her stomach, it makes the abs look like they're not part of the body

[Anonymous No.4592941]

>>4592707
Fearless cunny poster

[Anonymous No.4592960]

>>4592941
>>4592722
they are fully dressed Japanese idols of legal age. so what can I improve? what is figure drawing even good for?

[Anonymous No.4593012]

>>4592960
Drawing figures.

[Anonymous No.4593013]

>>4592920
>Day 1 beginners get criticism all the time. You simply have to post work that you actually tried on. You can't doodle for 5 mins and ask for criticism.
I did try and did spend more than 5 mins. I'm bad, its why I'm in /beg/. I'm just an example though, given you can't see my characters head (and therefore can't head count) and its an awkward pose, I didn't particularly expect any advice. I just couldn't see a guy saying literally no one gets skipped without calling him out.

>>4592788
You is right, should be more like this. Her skirt is too long to actually ride that high when just lifted slightly.
Need to figure out how people do the crease lines in clothes.

[Anonymous No.4593018]

>>4592933
I think it some kind of belts from skirt up.

[Anonymous No.4593025]

>idols
why people talk like that

[Anonymous No.4593041]

>>4592933
>>4593018
yeah it is her suspenders, but the form isn't well realized as id like it to be

[Anonymous No.4593077]

from imagination, how does it look anatomically?

[Anonymous No.4593090]

>>4592877
You're thinking of the halfway point between the center line and top of the flat circle. Loomis is talking about the halfway point between the center line and the pole of a sphere, which is further back than the top of a flat circle.

[Anonymous No.4593120]

please critique.
What should I be focusing on improving in general?

[Anonymous No.4593134]

New

>>4593131

>>4593131

>>4593131

[Anonymous No.4593156]

>>4593120
the way neck attached is somewhat awkward
nice hair and whatnot


>What should I be focusing on improving in general?
whay do you say it all the time.

[Anonymous No.4593163]

>>4593156
I just want to know what I should be focusing on, changed or not.

[Anonymous No.4593179]

>>4593163
And you get all the time about the same answers. It's not like something will change overnight.

[Anonymous No.4593223]

>>4593120
Id like to redline this one aswell

[Anonymous No.4593311]

How do I into faces?

[Anonymous No.4593853]

>>4592929
>>4593090
Hmmm you right.
Both that sphere and 'cut off the side' he basically just says 'do it lol' with no explanation which makes it very confusing.

>>4590057
>Eyes are nice but way too wide
how so
i was told the face is 5 eyes wide. and in my face at least, that's true. he needs more than 5 eyes in his face because they're small, not large

[Anonymous No.4593919]

Has anyone tried the NMA Beginner's Guide to Drawing that's free at the moment? I have no idea if it's a good place to start

[Anonymous No.4594464]

Doing some greyscale work,I feel like I do not have enough contrast

[Anonymous No.4594468]

>>4594464
my ref

[Anonymous No.4594624]

>Remembered the name of my old fave artist I slightly forgot the name of and therefore couldn't find on google
Now I'm wonder, is copying peoples artstyle viewed as okay or do you get bullied for it?
Artist is space jin btw, which I remembered as devil jin for some reason.

[Anonymous No.4594626]

>>4594464
really nice but fix that upper waist