/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4579371]

I've been told by numerous people that this book in particular is all you need to become a pretty decent artist. Not even his other ones. Is this true? Is this a pretty good overview of everything you need? If not, what book is?

[Anonymous No.4579376]

>>4579371
There's no one stop book with everything you need, although Loomis is a great start. Ideally you should be constantly studying, either from books, other artists or just life in general.

[Anonymous No.4579381]

>>4579371
yes it will make you decent, BUT you'll lack on the visual library so you'll struggle to draw anything that is not in the book for a short while, but all you need to do is apply what you learned in the book for those new things you want to draw and voila

[Anonymous No.4579389]

I use this

[Anonymous No.4579392]

Honestly learning the head here is pretty fucking dope

[Anonymous No.4579397]

and this one

[Anonymous No.4579415]

>>4579389
his figure books felt kind of shit when i skimmed them. demos straight on and profile, then spams sample facial features. doesnt really get in to drawing three dimensionally.
which is weird because his scenery book is really interesting with its coverage of space and composition.

[Anonymous No.4579420]

>>4579389
Which one is that, anon? "Drawing the Head and Figure"?

[Anonymous No.4579802]

bump

[Anonymous No.4580641]

>>4579420
This is "Cartooning the Head and Figure"

[Anonymous No.4580735]

>>4579371
How much would loomis help a friend who's only interested in doing animu style shit? Is it one of those "to break the rules, you have to know the rules" things?

[Anonymous No.4580758]

>>4580735
Anime is just a specific set of proportions and stylization. If you can construct a head you can make it look like anything.

[Anonymous No.4581466]

>>4580735
He's better off learning from Steve Huston or other more contemporary figure drawing teachers. Loomis' books are good, but they're only books and they're somewhat outdated in terms of aesthetic. Huston and other modern teachers have videos with them actually going through the steps and can be more palatable for anime-enthusiasts.

[Anonymous No.4581491]

>>4579371
None
Though read this to obtain all the absolute basics and semi-advanced concepts, it's probably one of better beginner books out there
It's pretty light on exercises though so you should check other places for them

[Anonymous No.4581567]

>>4579371
This covers the basics. So yeah if you only want to be run-of-the-mill then this is all you need

[Anonymous No.4581578]

>>4580735
I mean, Loomis is pretty well known in Japan too. I've got a pic of a mangaka recommending Loomis and some other western instructors, pretty similar to what /ic/ recommends actually, but I can't find the damn thing anywhere.

The thing is that Loomis only teaches you the basics of construction, how the parts are built and put together.
To do animu- or really any good art to be fair, though animu especially is really big on minimalism and conservation of detail- you have ANOTHER step to learn: that is, you have to learn to IMPLY forms without directly and explicitly drawing and outlining each and every feature, and for a beginner that's very difficult. So they end up frustrated and blame their failure to understand that on Loomis or whoever they're learning from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtGGI6xiuUM
This is a good talk going over the subject.

[Anonymous No.4581612]

>>4581466
Thank you!!!

Which books from Steve Huston?

[Anonymous No.4581654]

>>4581612
His book on anatomy is pretty good but his New Masters Academy videos (you can find torrents online or a mega folder of them on the archives) are the most comprehensive.

[Anonymous No.4581662]

>>4581654
Thank you Anon. Your reply was hopefully not in vain and I will watch and draw tonight.

[Anonymous No.4581913]

>>4581491
>beginner
Top tier crabbing

[Anonymous No.4582320]

>>4581654
Idk if you're still here Anon but I spent 30 minutes looking for the new masters academy videos. Not only did I hear that Vilppu is really the only artist with cohesion worth looking at, but I still couldn't find an actual link. They've all been taking down.

[Anonymous No.4582836]

>>4581491
calculus is way easier than this

[Anonymous No.4582860]

>>4581662
Try looking in the Video Course Pastebin.

[Anonymous No.4583576]

>>4581913
>>4582836
?
It explains the basics and even gives exercises to them in an order that makes sense
It's a pretty good beginner book

[Anonymous No.4584634]

>>4579389
Drawing the Head and Figure by Hamm is the only book that gets you from zero to drawing a human face quick.
You won't be able to draw anything but the specific 60's comics style heads he teaches until you study further, but what matters is the confidence boost of knowing you can actually draw.

If you can't draw Jack Hamm's faces, quit.

[Anonymous No.4585949]

I would argue that’s the best loomis book by far.

[Anonymous No.4585959]

>>4581578
Manga-sensei (?) On YouTube mentions thar most of the mangakas he know learned figure drawing from either Loomis or Hamm.

[Anonymous No.4585963]

>>4583576
No it's not. It even says to study perspective from a perspective book because it's only giving an overview.

[Anonymous No.4585973]

>>4584634
Admittedly, I never read his book but I did skim through it once. It feels very two dimensional to me. There's just no volume to what he's teaching. For the heads, he teaches front and profile view and that's it. The muscles are just shapes so again, no volume to them.

[Anonymous No.4585989]

>>4579371
iirc reasoning ive heard from lurking is the others are kinda long-winded and bogged down in theory.

[Anonymous No.4586103]

What are some good books that will teach me anatomy, figure and gesture. I also heard Loomis is a decent start for heads but then assumes you know more than you do when teaching figure.